More Mama June drama, because of course. This situation is just so awful. I don’t really blame TLC for dropping Here Comes Honey Boo Boo like a hot potato, but I sort of feel like TLC could have taken more proactive actions to ensure that the kids were and are okay. I guess the only thing that matters to TLC is the bottom line though.
So, TMZ has been the site with all of the scoops on June and child molester Mark McDaniel. McDaniel molested June’s daughter Anna when Anna was just eight years old. McDaniel served a 10-year prison sentence for child molestation and he got out of jail this past March. Many sources now believe that June was seeing McDaniel as soon as he got out of prison, and that she had always had a thing for him, even when she was with Sugar Bear. Sugar Bear is Honey Boo Boo’s father, just FYI. Sources told TMZ that “June kept a box of photos of her and McDaniel in the house … something Sugar Bear knew about and protested, to no avail. She would NOT get rid of them.” Sugar Bear and June would always argue about McDaniel because June still had feelings for him. Family sources tell TMZ that they believe June was fooling around McDaniel behind Sugar Bear’s back and that is why they split.
TMZ also published a photo of McDaniel, June and Honey Boo Boo together. Sugar Bear is not happy about it – go here to see his reaction. So… now there’s a conversation happening about whether June should lose custody of her kids. People Magazine published a lengthy article yesterday about the involvement of Georgia’s Division of Family and Child Services.
Are the kids all right? Following reports last week that June Shannon, matriarch of TLC’s once-hit show Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, is dating Mark Anthony McDaniel, a man who allegedly served time for molesting her eldest daughter Anna Cardwell, TLC swiftly pulled the plug on the family’s show. Now, a spokesperson for child services in the family’s home state of Georgia says that in a case like Shannon’s, TV fame may not be the only thing she stands to lose.
“Generally speaking, when we receive a report that children are living around a sex offender … it would certainly rise to the level of concern of us looking into it,” Susan Boatwright of Georgia’s Division of Family and Child Services tells PEOPLE.
Shannon is mother and primary caregiver to the show’s star Alana “Honey Boo Boo” Thompson as well as Lauryn “Pumpkin” Shannon and Jessica “Chubbs” Shannon, all minors. Her eldest, Anna, now 20, is married with a child of her own.
Because of privacy laws, Boatwright is unable to confirm any ongoing investigations into the allegations against Shannon, but says, “From our point of view, when there are young children who are not able to protect themselves that are in daily contact or living with a sex offender, someone would go out and assess the situation and decide whether the children can stay there or not. If we thought a child was in harm’s way in any way, shape or form, we would develop a safety plan and make sure the children are not around an offender.”
On Sunday, TMZ posted photos allegedly taken last month showing Shannon and McDaniel with Alana on a staircase together. Shannon continues to claim that she and McDaniel are not romantically involved.
“It isn’t true, I promise,” she wrote on her Facebook page following the initial reports.
It sounds like the family is being evaluated quietly, but there’s no hard evidence of any current wrong-doing. That’s what TMZ says – they spoke to law enforcement sources in Georgia and they were told that McDaniel “is not legally prohibited from hanging out with June, Honey Boo Boo or anyone else in her family … except Anna. So far, there’s been no violation.” McDaniel has been in “total compliance” with the terms of his release so far. Ugh.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet, PCN, WENN.
Jesus take the wheel. Seriously.
Yep. Now would be good.
Jesus please also smack some sense into Mama’s head. Thank you.
When you’re seriously hoping that a 9 year old child gets raised by her unemployed, felon father (set a man on fire) who is disabled and has no solo child rearing experience, you know it’s bad bad bad. Jesus take the wheel, indeed.
This.
DO NOT use the word “molest” when you actually mean sexual assault! You are minimizing and trivializing what he did to these little girls and I’m so sick of it.
The media seem to think “molest” covers anything up to and including violent assault of a child and that’s not true.
It’s lazy, incorrect, and could mean almost anything except what actually happened.
Forced oral sex with a small child is hardly “molesting” her.
I can’t disagree with you. ‘Molest’ is a neutral, mild word compared to ‘assault’. It is assault, Is is violation. it’s devastation and destruction. I figure that some authoritative male figure came up with that.
I just don’t get why she would date that man… Anna must feel so betrayed.
Because she believes that gross man over her daughter. It’s so warped. She clearly doesn’t believe Anna. Poor kid.
Sadly June’s response is very, very common. So when McDaniel gets near her kids, if he hurts them, she will again not believe her children. Hopefully child services will see that in their investigation and realize the children will not be protected.
I don’t understand this at all. How can a mother not believe her own child? This girl was 8 years old at the time of the rape. Can we please call it what it is? Rape. What is even worse is that she began seeing this scum bag after he got out and when caught, lied to Anna about it – her daughter and victim. Anna needs to cut all ties from this garbage can of a mother. Just cut them.
You would be amazed how many parents don’t believe their child, or don’t care.
My step dad died unpunished. My mother hates me to this day for stealing her husband. I was 10, the only thing I was trying to steal was a cookie.
There is much truth to the saying, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. The cycle stopped with me. I learned from their eff ups and am everything they weren’t.
@ MeToo – Hugs to you. I’m sorry you experienced what Anna did. You are strong and brave and kudos to you for stopping the cycle.
My mom believes me that my brother molested me when I was eight and he was 12. She and the rest of my family, though they all know, still see him and occasionally shame me for not wanting him in my life (though I must admit my parents have been understanding of my not inviting him to my wedding, even though they’re paying for it). My sister even shamed me for not wanting to attend his wedding and threatened to cut me out of her life if I didn’t. I went, but I had multiple panic attacks before hand and got blackout drunk after.
The sad thing is, the molestation (I hate that word) isn’t even why I cut him out of my life. For the next ten years, despite not touching me sexually (he hit me occasionally), he hurt me worse. He would get drunk and come into my room and say things like “You realize everyone in this family wishes you were never born.” “Mom wishes you were dead when you came out.” “You’re worthless. Everyone hates you.” “Mom and Dad will never believe you because they love me.” That hurt more than any touch ever could, and I DO NOT need that in my life.
June never believed her daughter Anna. Never. “A week or so after it happened, I talked to Mama and she was upset, crying and saying, ‘I don’t believe you, I don’t believe you, why would you do this to me?’ ” Anna says. “And I was like, ‘Mama, he did that to me and I can’t do anything about it. You were never there to see it. You were always at work.’ ” She said this to her 8 year old daughter for crying out loud.
She still denies that he’s a child molester, even though he was convicted of doing the same thing to another child.
I don’t think she gets that a child would never make that up. Even at the slight chance that she kid, kids are horrible liars and the story would keep changing but her story stayed consistent. I can’t believe she would do this. I wish Anna had control over the shows earnings so she can stay far far away.
that quote from Anna gives me chills every time. poor Anna.
My ex-boss is marrying a sex offender. And her prior husband was a peeper. She believes the liars over the truth.
I don’t understand the track records there. Like… it’s one thing to married to someone who had never been charged, and you would never have guessed they were capable of something like that; and then find out they were. But to be with TWO creepo’s and going into a marriage with someone who IS a sex offender? Scary shit.
Chubb’s father was convicted of ‘sexual exploitation of a child over the internet.’ She and all her baby daddys have criminal records (though Pumpkin’s dad is a mystery).
Some women are as perverted as men can be. She likes men like this and even had a baby with a child predator. So really, she doesn’t seem to mind about child molestation. I think she knows that there’s a good probability that McDaniel molested Anna. I think it’s crossed her mind that if he did that to Anna, he could have done that to Chubbs and Pumpkin who were about 5 and 2 years old at that time. I think she knows he was guilty of what he spent 10 years in prison for. She just doesn’t care. She’s A-OK with him. Some women are like that. Being a woman doesn’t automatically make one more saintly than a man.
Excellent point.
/Chubb’s father was convicted of ‘sexual exploitation of a child over the internet.’
WHAT?! F*ck this Bitch!
@Jayne – Yeah. DM has on its site the mugshot of Chubb’s father Michael Anthony Ford and what he was convicted of.
She’s sick and she needs to have her children removed to a safe home. I don’t agree that Sugar Bear is that home since he’s a felon with apparently an anger problem and he’s disabled and has never cared for the children by himself. Maybe they can work something out with another relative.
Honey Boo Boo, Chubbs and Pumpkin. Yeah this is normalcy….I would hope the children would be in the safest environment possible. However it would be so traumatic to be taken away from your mom, however freakish she is, out of the blue. Who knows what the ending of this story is, but I certainly hope TLC isn’t standing behind them with their cameras on a “very special” episode of Honey Boo Boo, how she survived the storm. Hate television.
It would be traumatic but they have a relative they can live with. Their father. That is much different than foster care and worth avoiding the trauma of molestation.
Sugar Bear is only the father to Alana. So legally I don’t think he has any rights to any of the other girls. One of the other girls is fathered by another sex offender currently in jail.
@ Lucinda and Alex: I have never watched the show and only know of them from the blogs. Her father’s name is Sugar Bear. Do any of these people have normal names…no Bob, Mike, Judy, Susie? My lands, I hope Mama June and Sugar Bear aren’t cousins. This story gets sadder by the day.
@gina they have normal names these are just nicknames they had on the show lol
@Alex. Whew….wiping sweat off my brow. Those are some wickedly sick names, but they seem to suit their owners. I looked close at a pic of Mama June and never have I ever witnessed someone with her physical situation and trauma and drama of her life, seem so relaxed. These clichés keep popping in my head, ignorance is bliss is highlighted and in bold.
Don’t forget Mama June and Sugar Bear.
It sounds like a bad tv show, oh wait…
Exploitation. Period. TLC, Mama June and TMZ. Guiltier than hell.
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Sickening. All of it. Those poor kids.
TMZ did expose this. They get a little credit in my book.
At least they waited until they had Anna’s permission, the first few articles I read said they wouldn’t release the name for her protection. They get a tiny bit of respect for that.
True.
TMZ is all about the bottom line, but some of what they expose, like what an evil selfish person June Shannon is, basically pimping out her kids so she can have a man, and the NFL’s coverup of Ray Rice’s horrible abuse, is a net good for society.
Agreed!
TMZ is all about the bottom line, yeah, but they shielded Anna here, and they have protected the kids still in that woman’s so-called “care”.
What I want to know is how TLC ran a show about a convicted felon, whose kids were fathered by other felons, two of whose exes were doing time for child molestation, one of them having molested her own child? When that show wasn’t a sobering documentary on dysfunctionality, but a cutesy look at a redneck family who were wholly loving, committed and solid in their values when it came to having one another’s backs?
There is no way they did not know the background. They have to have checked this out at the start, and if they didn’t, someone has to have clued them in after the show first aired.
You hit the nail on the head. The children in this are the only victims. I don’t like “reality” TV especially when it glorifies exploiting children as this show seemed to be doing and all of this follow-up with the details from the oh so trashy TMZ. I feel dirty just reading about it and it makes me want to take a shower.
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I have to give credit to TMZ for their continuing reports on this story and keeping Anna’s involvement in this secret until she came out with it herself. I also like that TLC dumped the show and is refusing to air the newest season even though it’s already been taped and that they’re offering counseling to the kids if they want it.
What I’m worried about is Sugar Bear’s supposed inactivity when dealing with this. When he first found out that June was seeing McDaniel again, he should have hired a lawyer ASAP and gotten full physical custody of Honey Boo Boo. She should not be living with June and be out and about with McDaniel.
I would imagine Sugar Bear has a lawyer and is waiting for due process? I hope June does lose her kids over this – I can’t imagine how you can justify dating this guy. What an idiot.
@Pandy – TMZ and DM are reporting that Sugar Bear is broke, that he hasn’t gotten TLC money, that it went to June instead, and is unemployed, homeless, and begging for money from his friends. He’s living in his friend’s trailer. It’s said that he may not have any money to hire a lawyer and that CPS might not give him custody of HBB because of his unstable home life, which is unfortunate.
Maybe he doesn’t want her?
He served his entire sentence so he is not on papers.He can babysit Honey Boo Boo if that idiot June let’s him.She is in denial ,she doesn’t believe he ever abused those girls JMO.
He’s a registered sex offender. He should not be legally allowed to babysit any kids, especially those around the same age as the girl he got convicted over.
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Pedophiles can never be rehabilitated!
This is what I don’t understand. If he was convicted of molesting a child, he should be a registered sex offender. Is the rule that he can’t live within x feet of a school and must notify his neighbors that he’s a sex offender? But is there supposed to be some sort of limitation on his contact with minors? I can’t remember.
This is just so so so gross.
I can’t even stomach this story. Could her father not try to win custody? The whole situation is repulsive.
My thinking is those girls are in a lose-lose situation, if the mother lost custody they all have different dads and may be separated, but stay with her and be put at risk by her terrible choices. She is an awful woman and does not deserve the title Mother.
But as far as I know the other girls fathers are not involved in their life, so maybe Sugar Bear could get custody of all three girls. At least I hope so, they’re not safe with such a disgusting man.
Sadly Sugar Bear (who has numerous health issues) is apparently living in a trailer TLC bought but with no electricity or water. According to friends he is flat broke and borrowing money. Housed to work but I think left when he was hospitalized at one point. I don’t know that he could get custody or at least custody beyond Alanna.
Don’t the kids have Aunts, Uncles…Grandparents? I mean anything has to be better than living with a child molester.
No, just no. You can tell in the clip that Sugar Bear is p!ssed but doesn’t want to react too strongly on camera. And how dare June put her children in harm’s way?! Oh, McDaniel’s not around Anna, so it’s fine and he doesn’t have to avoid any other children? Especially HER children?! He!l to the no! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t make it right and just because something is right doesn’t mean it’s always allowed by law. I don’t give one single eighth of an “F” about this June’s romantic needs. What a piece of garbage. I know many people who were molested when they were younger, this story is turning my stomach.
This is absolutely vile, I’m not a mother but surely the love you have for your child far out weighs any love you could have for a partner. Though im not sure how she can have any feelings towards a paedophile other than disgust and repulsion. What a vile woman.
The father of one of her other daughters was/is also in prison for sexual exploitation of a child. Apparently the safety of her children is lower on her list of priorities.
I don’t know where Anna is currently living, but perhaps she could take temporary custody of her sisters while this is all being sorted out.
As a parent your first responsibility is to keep your children safe. You do not knowingly put them is a harmful situation. If you choose a man over your children’s wellbeing,then you lose your kids. Period. If you choose a man who has harmed your child, then you lose your kids. Period. Your loyalty goes to your children.
This is so disturbing on so many levels. This man is a sexual predator and has done serious time for it. Then you move him into a home with underage girls is so dangerous.
I’m furious with this story. Your priorities are your children. If you cannot keep them safe for your own selfish reasons, you don’t get to be their parent. There is no grey here.
Everything you said gets a Plus One
in fact if THAT POS is what she is Choosing over her Children then INDEED they need to be removed ASAP
I feel so bad for her eldest daughter and fear for the others. She is disgusting and really needs to have her children removed. If you are incapable of seeing how much this hurting your child and are willing to put your other children in danger, you do not deserve to have them. Even if she is not dating this man, why in the hell would you be hanging around him after what you know he did. They are not only hanging out, but house hunting, and buying him a car. My own mother did something very similar to this and I have never forgiven her and if I’m honest the only reason I talk to her is because my daughter. She loves her grandma so much and it would crush her to not have her around, but if I was still childless there would be no relationship. June is potentially giving up a lot to be around this monster.
I feel certain that June was molested as a child.
That’s not an excuse and it’s no different than saying “well he was molested” about a pedophile. I was molested by my bio dad for years and if anything it has made me more protective of my daughter. I’m a single mother and can’t tolerate even the slightest signs of creepiness. If this is true this woman is no kind of mother. She deserves all the public ridicule
But I don’t think anyone is saying it’s an excuse, just that it could explain – but definitely not justify – a lot. Isn’t it common that people who are abused tend to abuse our allow abuse, OR swing to the opposite end if the spectrum and become extremely protective?
I’m thinking the same thing, she has another ex who was also convicted of molestation, something is not right with her. It doesn’t excuse the situation but it would explain a lot, just repeating what was done to her.
I suspect you’re probably right, or was abused in some way. I hope eventually she seeks some help to deal with whatever issues she has. And in the meantime, her kids need to be given a safe life – if she won’t do it, then custody needs to be given to someone who can.
If she was abused/molested as a child, then she needs to work through that without putting her children in the line of fire.
Even IF you believe that he has gotten enough therapy to really no longer pose a threat (and I tend to doubt that, as there is copious evidence that pedophiles can’t really give it up), being around him again is a gross attack on Anna, who now has to deal with the knowledge that her mother chooses to associate with a man who violated Anna in a terrible way.
What will happen to June will happen, and she will deserve it all. But my main concern is that Anna is getting support – from professionals, from friends, from family, from faith if she has it – to help her deal with this. She is being victimized twice over now. I just pray for Anna.
They’re never “cured”. My biological father is a horrible man. He abused my stepsister and me. He served jail time and was on probation for a long time. I know he will do it again and it’s going to kill me to find he stole another little girl’s childhood
We know they cannot be cured. Therapies exist that allegedly help them recognize the destructiveness of their actions and help them to control their urges, but the data is mixed on all the methods out there. But right now, that’s all that exists. Right now, the legal system does not consider child molestation a capital offense or one worthy of life imprisonment – and I’m starting to think that maybe it should.
Even if McDaniel is one of the ones whom manages to never re-offend (and that’s a huge maybe) June’s association with him is an act of cruelty to Anna. That’s why I wish the focus of this was on Anna and the way she is dealing with this. Let the government deal with the others.
Sam, I think child molestation should be merit a life sentence for the reasons you stated. I heard a report about a study of the efficacy of therapy and drugs of pedophiles on NPR. I’m sorry I don’t remember who did it or anything, but the results were pathetic. Almost all of the men in the study admitted to doing it again, regardless of the treatment received. It is apparently an overwhelming urge, and until we can find an effective treatment, I think we are releasing these people back into the population knowing that they will hurt another child, perhaps escalating into killing them to avoid getting caught.
There needs to be a better solution than the way we handle it now. 🙁 Because we give them a jail sentence (with therapy) and then let them out. They’ve served their sentence, so they’re free. If they’re still a danger, why did we let them out? I honestly don’t know. I think you’re right… it may need to be life imprisonment.
You are correct. They are never cured. They can do therapies that might make the urges manageable, but it’s always there, always bubbling insidiously just below the surface. I refuse to take on any patients with pedophilia because the entire thing makes me too angry to be anywhere near a pedophile.
Read this on Gawker, apparently the law is relatively-soft on child molesters (especially given that they are probably the most hated variety of criminal besides mass murderers) because so many of the reported child molesters are white males (I say reported; it’s beyond clear that pedophiles come in all colors and genders). So “white privilege” has the perverse effect of victimizing white children, especially white kids in underprivileged communities like Honey Boo Boo. Statistics playing out in the tabloids…sad….
When I was a law student, and treatment of paedophiles was under discussion, I said I thought paedophiles when released should have to reside on an island without any kids allowed, with decent apartment buildings, farms, businesses, hospitals, leisure and adult ed opportunities, etc but for life. No parole, no leaving. Not a penal colony other than the impossibility of ever living elsewhere, not punitive, just no access to either the internet or children. Partners could reside there as well if they wanted. Anyone over 18 could. Just no kids.
Everyone went ballistic and called me a Nazi. I was just – seriously? You remove their victims and remove their ability to harm, while allowing a reasonable quality of life after they have served their sentences – how is the cost to the offender greater than the gain to potential victims?Paedophiles have so, so many victims – remove them as soon as they are proven offenders, and you will reduce the damage enormously. But no matter what I said it was compared to the ghettos. Because apparently, inflicting horrific conditions upon innocent people is the same as removing predators from the ambit of potential victims, while still providing them with humane living conditions in recognition that they’ve served their time in jail.
I appreciate there are cost implications which could make it prohibitive (though when you look at the social cost of attacks, I do wonder). But I honestly don’t see how restricting freedoms to protect the rights of vulnerable innocents is so wrong.
My tutor insisted paedophilia was a mental illness, period, and could be treated. He had 4 small kids, and used to be a criminal barrister. I remember being nonplussed that a father with his exposure to human wrongdoing could be so convinced of the rehabilitation potential of predatory child rapists.
I can’t believe all of you are just “starting to think” they should be in jail for life! Hello! Even if they were magically rehabilitated they should STILL be in jail for life because of WHAT THEY DID. To me, what they did on it’s own, is enough to warrant being in jail for life. I’m a little disturbed by all these comments saying that jail for life only because they are still a threat. Even if they weren’t they don’t deserve to be free after doing that! You are all going way to soft on these “people”.
I hate to point this out, but a serious argument on this is that some paedophiles might kill their victims in order to silence them, if life in prison were a serious possibility. I agree you need to remove them from society but you also need to demarcate a staircase of retribution if you want a deterrent to more serious violence. Or at least, that’s an argument we were given. In the UK, many children whose killers raped them have been released, though, so that’s rather a moot point as far as I can see. Life does not mean life here, in fact I believe on average life means nine years.
My gut says I agree with you, though I’m usually pretty liberal on the jail issue because it tends to send people out worse than they went in. One of the problems with jailing paedophiles and then letting them out is they make so many contacts with fellow predators in prison. Not ideal, to say the least, when they’re then freed. But given the harm caused, the recidivism rates, and the vulnerability of the targets, if jail is preventative as well as retributive, then maybe we need to start asking who needs to be jailed in order to protect the public, especially the vulnerable public… and child rapists have to be very high on that list.
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You’re right.
Of course you’re right, but there are forces at work that fight to keep the statutes of limitation low. Shockingly (and disgustingly) the Catholic church fights to keep the SOL low – for obvious reasons.
I’ve never watched the show, but I’m surprised that Anna mentioned June not seeing the abuse because June was always “at work”. All along I was thinking of Maynard G. Krebs (“Work!??” [faints]). What work?
I don’t understand why it’s OK for the molester to be around Honey Boo Boo???
The mother will never believe her kids over a man. She deserves what she get’s in the future and for sure she deserves for her kids to be taken away from her.
TMZ says according to Georgia law that the guy did his time and according to the state it is not illegal for him to be around kids, he just can’t be around Anna. Where I live a child molester cannot be associating with children period. Hopefully the kids stay safe and they have family looking out for them. I cannot see this situation ending well regardless.
I’m surprised this wench still has custody of the kids. If I were Anna I’d apply for emerg custody of the sisters.
Does Anna have the means to do so? Would she get monetary support? Poor girl is only 20 and been through hell and back? It may be the best thing but it is unfair to ask her to do that.
It would probably be very hard. Anna and her husband already have one child, and I doubt they have the economic means to provide for 3 others. This is a situation in which I doubt that there are really any decent relatives that could be in a position to take the kids. It can be super hard to get custody of any children. Anna is young, is not well-off and already is caring for a baby. Courts would probably be very wary of placing such an additional burden on her. In addition, Anna lives out of state (Alabama) and the courts would not like the idea of uprooting the kids from their home to move them.
I am usually not a fan of the foster case system, but I also realize that there are wonderful foster parents who do excellent work. If a decent family could be located, I would support letting the children go to them.
That’s the issue really. It’d be nice if she COULD do it, but it’s a rough position for Anna. I’m sure she doesn’t want to see her sisters in dangers way, and I’d like to think she’d go to bat for them if she has to.
And I think they only come into their money at 21 – according to June’s previous trust fund statements – so Anna probably doesn’t have the ability to take care of the girls financially.
I’m confused as to why a convicted child molester fresh from prison is even allowed around young children, something needs to be done ASAP here. He’s probably not dumb enough to attempt it again right now but what about when the news dies down and the cameras go away? He obviously has June’s blessing to put his hands on her children and she’ll either look the other way or just not believe the child and blame her instead, absolutely sickening.
I have the same question. I thought that convicted child molesters were prohibited from being around children. Scary! Cannot believe that June would let a predator close to her kids. Sorry for the kids but good riddance to Mama June!
Also I heard she’s finally going to free Han Solo from that frozen carbonite
(rim shot)
I lol’d hard. This topic is depressing & I needed that, thanks dear 🙂
They seriously should. Which mother would expose her children to someone like him?!
As long as June has children in her care to offer up to this predator & is free to continue this cycle, it will not end. June is pulling out all the stops for this guy as far as gifts go: car, house, and her pageant princess daughter. June is too busy worrying about June’s needs & June’s happiness to give a toss about anyone who isn’t June or her romantic interest.
This 100%.
Also, there’s photos of June going with McDaniel to visit his newborn grandchild. The pics were supposedly taken by his DIL, Peaches McDaniel, who has been defending him. I hope June isn’t getting it into her head to procreate with him.
I’m sure she is Peaches lied and said her mom was not seeing him which went along with June lie about not dating him in 10 years. When all three of them were house hunting last month so someone had to tell her to lie.
@Candy Love – Peaches is McDaniel’s daughter-in-law who has a newborn. She’s been posting pics of her father-in-law holding her child and writing little blurbs about what a wonderful guy he is.
Pumpkins is June’s daughter who keeps supporting June by lying for her. She, June, and HBB were in those house-hunting photos with McDaniel and his son. She’s now arguing online with Sugar Bear’s brother, Uncle Poodle, because he criticized June for what she’s doing to her kids.
I think it’s dirty that June is allowing Pumpkin to betray Anna. June knows this is destroying the sibling relationship between Pumpkin and Anna as well as damaging the relationship with the only father figure Pumpkin has known (Sugar Bear).
Maybe he (McDaniel) is Pumpkins father…
If she loses custody: Good. There’s really not much else to say about this horrible situation. She sold her daughters out for a perv. If a caring relative (or Sugar Bear) can’t or won’t give them a safe harbor, the state has to intervene.
This isn’t surprising as she didn’t believe Anna either. She probably blames her for him going to jail (even though legally that’s not true). Anna went to stay with her grandparents afterwards and didn’t move back into the house until the show started. So obviously their relationship has never been the same. Poor thing
TLC has offered Anna counseling but I’m not sure what else they can do. Esp if the police and CPS have their hands tied as well
TmZ didn’t discover squat……TLC decided to get out of the contract because the show was failing badly in the ratings and they wanted to get rid of it….Alanna is no longer a cutsy 6 yrs old wise cracking cutey but a overweight sloppy looking 9 yr obnoxious 9 year old who is not cute…So they “found” out things they knew all along and “leaked it to TMZ” so they had a excuse to cancel without penalty clause……June Slug has never been mother of the year….had a record of run ins with CPS before the show and that molestation trial…and TLC didn’t “know about it” till now….believe that and I will sell you the best piece of completely dry land in the Dismal Swamp….
I head Wendy Williams say that this show was a big money maker for TLC. So when they canceled the show and is refusing to air the newest season they’ve already taped, then it’s hurt them financially.
I read that June was secretly going off seeing McDaniel and avoiding TLC’s camera people. So I don’t know if and when TLC found out about McDaniel. I know that the house hunting photos were taken last month. But regardless of when they found out, I’m glad they shut it down instead of making a new story arc about this.
She came to TLC notice from the old Child Pageant show they had were Alanna was a contestant……..and with any business don’t you think that you would do a background check on someone you were about to invest time and work into ? and if they did they would have found out her background as welfare mother of 4 children with 4 different men…who lived on the government and state working as little as possible…who had been investigated already by CPS for child neglect who had one child molested and had been involved with that molester who was in prison at the time for that molestion charge were he was found guilty …its was all there…and they couldn’t have not found it …No they covered it up ….and went on with the lie…till they needed it…then the “found out”….
@ketjo – I think TLC knew about their thieving backgrounds and about Chubb’s father but reportedly, June has been keeping Chubb’s father out of their lives. I think they knew about the government subsidies and the different baby daddys.
I don’t know if TLC could get ahold of the info on Anna since she was a minor at the time. I also don’t know if they knew June still had feelings for and was keeping photos of McDaniel while he was in prison and that it was affecting her & Sugar Bear’s relationship. I don’t know when they found out June started seeing McDaniel again.
But I’m glad TLC didn’t stick around and try to make money off this new story arc.
Why are child molesters given relatively light sentences and then turned out into society to repeat their offenses? Child molesters are targets for all other prisoners…they hate them…so they are locked up in protective custody together, to compare notes and learn better skills for not being detected when they get out to do it again. If they are going to be free again, why do they not castrate them and give them pills to kill their desires? Why is this country so lax on offenses like this until they have done it repeatedly? It is sickening. We all know childrens protective services are so lacking in virtually every state, so the fact they are under their protection is no reassurance at all. Mama June, like so many needy, emotionally sick women, believes this perv’s lines over her own child. Her minor children need to be protected from her as well as the perv.
I’m all for castrating the molesters and rapists..now call me hard hearted if you want to but you be a little girl child of 10 who had to fight off a “good deacon of the church” when he tried to corner and molest you in the church basement…..only because I hauled off and hit him hard between his legs was I able to get away…. I was scared and hid for the rest of the day until my daddy came in from work and I told him…He went after the man and found he had suddenly left to go back to Alabama….otherwise my dad would have killed him…That man was arrested and sent to prison a few years later for raping a 12 yr old in Alabama….they don’t change…they just hide it better…
Unfortunately, when castrated, these offenders become more violent/turn to murder. LWOP or capital is sadly the only way to deal with these people.
I think it should probably be a capital offense. They can’t be rehabbed and they will do it again, so perhaps it’s better to save a life and end theirs. I think if you hurt a child, you don’t deserve to be among the living.
“Is June Shannon going to lose custody of her kids because of Mark McDaniel?”
I feel so horrible typing this, but I HOPE SO. It would be better than living with a child molester.
Don’t feel horrible. Any mother who would voluntarily allow her kids to be around a convicted child molester, let alone one who already raped HER OWN DAUGHTER, is not fit to have children; those kids would be better off with almost anyone else than her. Bad enough to pimp your kid out to the pageant circuit, but to put them in harm’s way like this is beyond despicable. Good god, she may as well gift-wrap them for him.
If bringing him in contact with her kids it isn’t a crime under child endangerment laws then it ought to be.
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I pray they have a decent relative, and that all the money that show made is kept in trust for those kids. That evil , foul daughter of Jabba the Hutt and Miss Piggy (WHY MISS PIGGY?WHYYYYYYYYYY) needs to be locked up with her knight in shining camo and given only kale and almond milk as prison rations. Disgusting.
Classic codependency, right? Probable trauma, issues with boundaries, denial of reality. She’s very sick and it’s sad and will only continue, unfortunately.
I almost feel like we are waiting for more abuse to occur. This is just sickening. I just hope Sugar Bear (Honey Boo Boo’s dad) takes action and protects his children, or someone else in the family steps up. In Texas, sex offenders with specific type of offenses are not legally required to be away from children, the whole law process is flawed, I tend to think Georgia laws related to this may be similar. You would think that the family in its entirety could be protected due to its prescence in the media and/or because the victim is part of that family.
Yeah nothing is happening now because people are looking but what about when this dies down in a little while, which it will inevitably do because that’s how media works, then who is going to watch over the two that are still underage.
The thing is Sugar Bear if he does do anything only has legal rights to Alana not Pumpkin.
i thought i read here, must have been elsewhere, that TLC is trying to take care of the kids. first they announced they would dropped the show/refused to air the newest season (even though it is absolutely still a money maker) but also released statements promising their first concern was the kids and they planned to provide them therapy and other resources?
Therapy means absolutely nothing if their mother is housing them with a paedophile who abused their own sister and one of their cousins when Alana’s own age.
Sod therapy. They should be seeking to provide a safe home environment for those kids. They should be trying locate a highly qualified, experienced nanny/grade school teacher/similar, who would be willing to provide foster care under her roof (with perhaps weekends at the older sister’s place?), and pay her to do it, with back up in psych terms and educational investment on top. I can’t believe that would be impossible. THAT would be putting their money where their press releases are. Those kids are famous, and now so is this horrific situation. Imagine going through high school with this baggage, even if the baggage weren’t so appalling that the guaranteed bullying to all hell pales by comparison. And not one adult worthy of the designation to turn to or rely on. Not one. This makes Peaches Geldof’s childhood look a walk in the park.
TLC made a fortune from those children, and now they are offering free therapy while Mommy Dearest shacks up with the guy who raped their elementary aged sister? How generous.
If the thing about the trusts being available to the girls at 21 is true, then I hope Anna is having her birthday soon. Maybe TLC can give them a check, under the circumstances.
I wonder if she’d believe Anna finally, if all the girls were taken from her, and with no children around to abuse, this guy just left. Would that be proof enough? What exactly does she need to be beat over the head with to believe her child over this walking, talking, breathing piece of crap? I hope they’re both sterilized. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear later that she’s prostituted any one of her girls to a boyfriend in the past. Nothing surprises me with this lot anymore.
Could we all please stop referring to these horrible, reprehensible people by their childish, self-serving, self-appointed, and *affectionate* nicknames?
June Shannon is not “Mama June.” That woman is NOT my mama, thank God, and I find it very degrading and frankly unbelievable that everyone is still calling her that after all of this has come to light. I refuse to play along. This is just another way of playing by her terms. Let’s stop right now.
And whatever the hell his name is, it is not “Sugar Bear.” He has a real name. One I am blocking out, but it exists.
What comes next? Will the molester start calling himself “Uncle Huggy-Buggy” or something equally nauseating? And will the press meekly pick up on that?
Let’s all stop now.
Let’s instead call them by their ADULT NAMES and start holding them accountable to act like ADULTS, and take the ADULT consequences for their actions.
I also think it is time to stop calling Alana “Honey Boo Boo.” She’s a human being, not a pet. Maybe we can encourage people to stop regarding her as an object by using her real name.
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Amen. Whatever this person is, she is not a Mama.
Really, really good point, and very eloquently made.
If you really want to be horrified, read this:
http://gawker.com/horrifying-report-details-crimes-of-mama-junes-molester-1651723134
Oh God- I clicked the link. That poor, poor girl. I am so disgusted by June Shannon. What a troll.
Oh, good god. The awfulness just piles up and up – she’s brainwashed her other daughters to stick up for this POS and to publicly call Anna a liar… 😰
And June Shannon ranting incomprehensibly about the lies being put about, by people who will get theirs in the end…?
Woman, you are talking about your DAUGHTER. Your baby who you should have tried to protect, your baby who needed you to comfort her after what was done to her, your baby – not a love rival, not an adult who had anything to gain by lying, not your competitor, not a pet who pissed on your furniture. Your daughter who was subjected to appalling abuse, your daughter who needed her Mama’s love and understanding, and you spat in her face.
Most parents would die to protect their children but this creature, this excremental stain in the guise of a human being, is so despicable that she would have the world believe her daughter – her eight year old daughter – lied just to spoil June’s fun.
I generally try to avoid being angry-judgmental but f*ck that and f*ck this woman and f*ck the SOB whose presence she values more than the well being of her own children. I hope TLC writes Anna a fat cheque, even if only to massage their own image, and I hope CPS comes down on her mother like a freight train.
And now I’m going to go give my baby a hug.
I feel sorry for the kids, but the adults are all disgusting trash. TLC really hit a new low in giving these losers any air time. I’m glad I didn’t waste one second watching this mess.
This is why I have always said that women who cover up for/enable child predators should be given jail sentences as well. These kids should be taken away from this horrible mother ASAP!
Why are we surprised? TLC chose this family including their trashy mother without investigating her? It wouldn’t have taken much to uncover this story previously. Or maybe they did know and let it slide for ratings and dollars.
“Or maybe they did know and let it slide for ratings and dollars.” —- Ding, ding, ding you hit the jackpot. TLC knew, and thought it would be ratings gold. I also don’t think cancelling the show or the offer of counseling was because of any altruistic feelings on their part, either. Rather, it was purely for selfish reasons to keep their advertisers from jumping ship, IMO.
Time for Sugar Bear to go to court to keep that guy away from his kid.
I hope Alana gets an education so she can get out of that pig stye.
Horrible woman always reminded me of Jabba the Hutt.
A couple of weeks ago some people on here said that June was a good mum because she put money from the show in trust funds for the kids.