Beyonce on her vegan diet: ‘First it’s important that you know I am not a vegan’


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Last week, we heard that Beyonce lost “65 pounds” doing the 22-Day Revolution diet, by Beyonce’s personal business partner/dietician Marco Borges. I personally do not believe Beyonce “lost” 65 pounds, even if we’re counting pillowy pregnancy weight. She definitely lost weight though – she looked SO small in the Met Gala photos last week, and we should know because Beyonce was basically naked at the Met Gala, so we could see nearly every part of her body. But 65 pounds lighter in the past year and a half? Not so much.

But now I’m guessing that the “65 pounds” is all part of Beyonce’s new shill – Beyonce, Jay-Z and Marco Borges have launched their vegan meal delivery service, based on Borges’ 22-Day Revolution diet. To promote the meal delivery service, Bey did an interview with the New York Times a few days ago. And when I say “interview” I mean “she emailed a statement to the NYT.” The NYT reporter was peeved about that, because an actual interview with Beyonce was on her schedule. The reporter was supposed to do a phone interview “as had been promised for more than a month. Beyoncé, a representative explained, has not answered any direct questions for more than a year. Just back from vacation in Hawaii, she politely responded by email, sounding rather less fiery than the company’s South American fiesta lentils.” Beyonce does not speak directly to peasants or journalists. If she wants to be interviewed, she will interview herself. So, here are some highlights from the NYT story:

The 22-Days thing is soy-free, dairy-free and gluten free: Beyonce says, “First it’s important that you know I am not a vegan.”

Borges is rebranding “vegan”: He prefers saying “plant-based” because with vegan, “you picture someone who lives in Colorado that doesn’t wear deodorant. There’s a negative stereotype.”

She’s not a cook: “I don’t really cook, but I’m a really good taste tester.”

Bey loves the diet: “At first it’s the little things I noticed: I had more energy… The benefits of a plant-based diet need to be known. We should spend more time loving ourselves, which means taking better care of ourselves with good nutrition and making healthier food choices.”

Bey & Jay hired an advisor to launch this diet and the NYT notes: “Not everything Beyoncé and Jay Z have touched turns to gold. Beyoncé’s fashion line, House of Dereon, for example, has a defunct website, and Jay Z recently took to Twitter to defend Tidal, his streaming music service. To help take the food brand both big and international, the company recently brought on Anne McKevitt, who has advised companies like Walmart and Mercedes.”

Bey on adjusting to the diet: She noticed “a noticeable glow to my skin without having to deprive myself of carbs. I even slept better.”

[From The NY Times]

I imagine this meal delivery service will go over as well as Tidal? Ha. I actually read the whole NYT piece and it was profoundly stupid. I get the impression that Jay and Bey live in such a sycophantic bubble that they just think that everything they do is brilliant and every one of their ideas must be heard and beloved. They think, “oh, we’ll invest in this meal delivery thing and it will be amazing, we barely even need to promote it because everyone loves us and wants to do what we do.” And the whole “it’s not really vegan” thing bugs me – it’s totally vegan. And Beyonce had to tell Borges that he needed to put more salads in the meals!! How did a vegan dietician not understand that people trying a vegan diet need salads?

Here’s a photo of Beyonce in NYC a few days ago. She wore a romper with matching shoes!!!

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  1. lisa says:

    i appreciate that she made a point of saying she isnt a vegan

    ive said something nice!

    • Rachel says:

      But then she followed it up with the “dirty hippie” stereotype. She could explain that there are negative connotations associated with the word vegan without throwing out that example. She’s actually perpetuating the stereotype.

      • lisa says:

        true

        just like i think people who beat each other up in elevators look trashy no matter what gala the came from, she might not agree

      • LadyMTL says:

        Actually, it’s Borges who mentioned the stereotype…at least, that’s how I read it. There are definitely negative connotations associated with the word, and I think choosing to say “plant based” is a good move.

      • melodycalder says:

        Is that what people think of vegans? I live in a expensive yuppie colorado mountain town and don’t wear antiperspirant, but do wear natural deodorant and I get a meal delivery service a couple times a month to try new recipes…. I guess I am exactly the market they don’t want to target? ?? Good thing I gave up on them years ago. Poo on you both.

      • Kitten says:

        Vegans are good people, man.
        Also, Colorado is f*cking gorgeous. I love it out there.

      • Betsy says:

        @LadyMTL – but “plant based” doesn’t necessarily mean “vegan.” I most definitely try to form the basis of my diet from plants (never works, but that’s my goal!), but I eat meat.

      • Pamela says:

        I side eyed her saying she is not vegan at first. But I think (not an expert!) being vegan isn’t JUST about diet. Don’t most vegans abstain from ALL animal products– like cosmetics, leather etc? She may be making that distinction to avoid being called a hypocrite the next time she carries an alligator bag.

      • ISO says:

        Wow. I live in Colorado and I don’t wear deodorant. I should send my photo so they can put a red circle and slash over my face on their packages.

      • Kristen says:

        I think the snide “dirty hippie” comment was a defensive move by this trainer guy after the Bey-Z’s were ripped on for talking about how they were vegan while still wearing fur and leather-she even wore a comboa leather and fur outfit to a vegan restaurant-which is really insensitive and utterly thoughtless. There was no need to passive-aggressively make that statement, there are more elegant, polite and professional ways to explain the difference between plant-based and vegan without sounding like a petty little brat.

    • G says:

      “…you picture someone who lives in Colorado that doesn’t wear deodorant…”

      Do youuuuu Bey? Because I don’t. Although, I do have an opinion on those who make ignorant sweeping generalizations.

      • Jag says:

        When I think of “vegan,” I think of my amazing friends who have more energy than I do, clearer skin than I do, are a healthy weight, and who look younger than their years.

        Maybe it’s just me. lol

      • Tiffany :) says:

        To be fair, that comment was from the chef Marco Borges, not Beyoncé.

  2. JustCrimmles says:

    Don’t they have enough money for six lifetimes already?

    • Rocket says:

      Are you typing this into every other article about millionaire celebrities who continue making money or just these two?

    • PhenomenalWoman says:

      Seriously. At least consider what you’re investing in. Not every investment is a good idea (as their recent flops have shown).

    • Jules says:

      I hope it fails. How much more can they grift from their fan base?

      • Pandy says:

        I hope It fails too. Co-opting the benefits of VEGAN (deserves to be in caps) while making sure people know you still chow down on cow, pig, etc. Green washing!!!!
        Here’s to another flop for these greedy b@stards.
        This pisses me off. You get enough flack about being vegan and then losers like these two think they can come along and slap a $$ sign on it.

  3. bettyrose says:

    I say “plant based” to get people to STFU. I don’t want to hear about this guy you know who says he’s vegan but only eats junk food and processed fake meat. But I respect that guy more than people like her who only do it as a fad, with no real thought to how animal products are sourced.

    • Sixer says:

      Hear hear. I’m an omnivore, but I can guarantee you that I’ve given more thought to the nutritional basis of the food my family eats, the welfare of the livestock, the sustainability of the production, and the conditions of the workers every single day than this silly woman has given in her entire life.

      • Wren says:

        Same. I source my animal products as carefully as I can, going for local stuff as much as possible. I’ve got a small container garden and I try to get local produce as well. It’s not only factory farms that destroy the environment or “exploit the innocent”. Large scale production of anything is going to exploit someone or something. Just drive by an orchard or an onion field (for example) during harvest and think about how the workers are being paid/treated. Or how many animals died in the combine that’s harvesting the wheat.

      • Sixer says:

        That’s what I try to do. Animal products from sources that treat their animals well. Reduce food miles by buying local where possible. Grow as much as I can. Avoid buying anything, not just food, that is sweated or sold by crappy minimum wage-paying employers. Favour fair trade products or co-op retailers. Reuse, reduce, recycle.

        No time for there-must-be-a-profit-for-me-in-anything people like Beyonce.

    • mimif says:

      I thought it was interesting that her whole POV was me me me, what plant based diet does for ME. Cuz it’s not about the animals or the environment, or any of that other Colorado people who don’t wear deodorant type of stuff. Wtf?
      Also, sometimes when we touch, the honesty is too much…still in my head, bettyrose!

      • Bridget says:

        I can’t believe this was in a written statement. Who on earth thought that the way to sell a “plant based” food delivery service was to put down vegans? There’s some real marketing genius.

        Also, most deodorants/anti-perspirants are made of really nasty chemicals that you’re putting directly on your lymph nodes. There’s nothing wrong with trying to use an alternative.

      • Eme says:

        Add nail polish and hair dye to the list of cosmetics full of nasty chemicals.

        From now on, I’ll consider myself a happy hippie stereotype that does not wear antiperspirant, covers her grays with henna and indigo, and grows veggies in the garden. But I am a lucky hippie because I guess they don’t deliver food to Spain.

      • bettyrose says:

        Mimif I have to close my eyes and cry

  4. Shambles says:

    “You picture someone who lives in Colorado and doesn’t wear deodorant. There’s a negative stereotype.” Uh, one that you’re helping perpetuate with brainless statements such as that one? I’m not a vegan either, but let’s not be stupid. Sigh.

    • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

      Yea, I was like wtf? When someone says they’re vegan, I picture someone who doesn’t eat meat/dairy products…….which is what a vegan is. We should be past stereotypes. If someone has to be spoonfed the definition of vegan in tiny, demeaning words, then maybe it’s their loss if they don’t try your product/go vegan.

      • Luca76 says:

        This

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Right, we’re not back in the 50s when people confused vegetarian with veterinarian.

      • Kitten says:

        When I hear the term “vegan” I picture several of my friends who dedicate their lives to animal welfare and environmentally focused non-profits.

        These are people I truly admire–nothing “negative” about it.

      • Linn says:

        I can understand somebody clearifying that s/he is not a vegan but eats vegan so s/he won’t get comment’s everytime s/he wears leather boots, but beyonce’s comments are so cringe-worthy.

    • Shambles says:

      It does come off really snobbish. Like “we’re vegans, but we’re not THOSE types of vegans.”

      • StormsMama says:

        @shambles

        Exactly!
        F you Bey and Borges

        Really snobby and stupid considering Unabashed Vegans should be your built in consumers and/or allies

      • JenniferJustice says:

        And she tops it with “I don’t cook, but I’m a great taste tester.” The level of snoot and indulgence is ridiculous. Apparently it’s salads she likes, but she can’t be bothered to make herself a simple salad?

        And yes, agree with the post above, too, regarding the focus of “me” in her reasoning for increasing plant-based foods in our diets…so we can look her. Thanks, but I’d rather make my own food, exercise, drink lots of water, and look just like ME.

      • TeaAndSympathy says:

        That is spot on, Shambles! All the vegans I know are highly educated, productive members of society. One mate was a soil scientist, who retrained to become a teacher. His dedication to the teaching profession is really inspiring. He grows most of his own vegetables, has rescued countless battery hens, and, along with another teacher, has implemented a wonderful Green program at our school. We have a food orchard, about 12 vegetable gardens, hens, compost bins, worm farms… All fruit scraps from our 10am fruit breaks are collected and recycled by our Green Team – made up of about 50 children on a rotation basis. Our school is one of the top 3 environmental schools in our (large) state, thanks to these two teachers. He only works 4 days with us. On Fridays, he is part of the prison Education Program (as a volunteer), teaching maths, science and environmental education to 13-17 year olds in the juvenile justice system, and also to adult prisoners. So, Bey, just what is a stereotypical vegan?

        The statements and the entire approach by Mrs Carter (above) demonstrate what an airhead she really is. And to email an “interview”? Rude. She’s so far up herself it’s mind boggling. I read a few reviews of these meals (I’ll try finding the pages again and post the link) and they were very uncomplimentary.

        Also, has she done something to her face? She looks different – in a weird way.

      • ISO says:

        Hippy from Colorado here…no deodorant today either. ..anyway…with their money they could put healthy fast food in every “food desert on the planet. Call it Sacha Fierce or whatever such lame egoic moniker, who cares. But seriously, why cater to elitism. Wealthy people have chefs FFS. Bey and Jay could make a difference with their health awareness. It’s actually a good vanity trend.

    • sofia says:

      I feel like “F*ck you Borges!” That’s the same stupid stereotypes people buy about feminism and he isn’t helping. How can a nutritionist (is he a nutritionist?) educate anyone relying on such lack of understanding of what he is selling? And this couple really ANNOYS me in such a way I can’t even write about it eloquently without using some nasty words. *breathe in, breathe out*

      • Shambles says:

        In through the nose, out through the nose. Deep sighs. Ahhhhh. ;)
        Forgive me if I’m stereotyping stereotypes here, but it seems as if a lot of them start to sound the same after a while. Feminists are extremist hippies, vegans are dirty hippies, marijuana smokers are useless hippies. Since we’re all just a bunch of damn hippies, I’m buying a van, painting a mural of Tom Hardy and Jason Momoa doing yoga on a beach all over it, and taking off for a life of nomadic dirty hippiness.

      • sofia says:

        @Shambles: Do you have space in the van for me?:D *I’ll bring the herbs and the incense*

      • Shambles says:

        By herbs I hope you mean the kind that contain cannabinoids. But even if you don’t, c’mon girl! ;)

      • sofia says:

        I’m talking about natural medicine OF COURSE ^_^

  5. Renee says:

    What were the meal plans that they needed to include salads?? I am vegan and I don’t eat a lot of salad.

    This woman dresses SO badly that it’s not even funny…

    • qwerty says:

      Yeah, I;m vegan and hardly ever eat salad. Too much work with little caloric value, I prefer bananas.

    • Pandy says:

      Seriously – that was my thought too. I eat salads maybe 3 times per week but that’s out of 21 meals.

      • PinaColada says:

        I’m vegan, and I love salads! But they aren’t filling so I make things like quinoa stuffed peppers and eat lots of nuts and bananas, too.

  6. Virgilia Coriolanus says:

    That is ultimately why I can’t like Beyonce (beyond the fact that I think her music is meh)…..she and Jay-Z are like the gold standard for living up their own asses.

  7. capepopsie says:

    She´s exhausting.

  8. Imo says:

    I don’t hate the idea – just the execution of it. Anything that gets people talking about healthier eating/living gets my approval.
    Like them or not Jay-Z and Beyonce have the attention of not only younger people but many black people of different ages. The chances of being affected by diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, stroke and obesity are significantly higher for people of color.

    • AcidRock says:

      I agree. Complaining about her personality or “being up her own *ss” aside, I do think it’s at least a worthy discussion to have, even if its execution needs some polishing. With the traditionally high rates of various diseases and illness in the black community because of genetic predisposition, it may be a good idea that the subject of going plant-based, or at least incorporating more plants in favor of calorie- and fat-dense foods into one’s diet, is being raised.

    • Paleokifaru says:

      If she were to speak intelligently to this issue then yes. But it’s all about her appearance and not her health. I don’t even mind if they want to make a distinction between a plant based diet and being more politically or socially vegan in terms of stances on animals. Fine by me but make the focus human health then.

    • Imo says:

      You’re missing acid rock’s point. Beyonce’s motivation doesn’t matter as much if even one of her fan base from the black/latino community even considers adopting a healthier lifestyle. If she can bring the conversation to the table I can overlook the shilling.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        No actually I’m not. I’ve taught a number of physiology and biological anthropology classes. Most people, including the minorities discussed here, are gob smacked by those types of health statistics. I don’t think Beyoncé shilling appearance will do anything more than have a few people use it as a crash diet. She’s not addressing the larger lifestyle and health benefits and her plan is prepackaged. 99.9% of people will miss the subtleties of simply adding more produce on their own to their own meals. If she were to start the health discussion it would be beneficial, absolutely. But I don’t think most coverage of her new 65 lb wonder weight loss is kick starting that type of dialogue in most media corners and that’s just sad. She could be doing more than selling her crash diet and she’s not. Maybe it’s cynical but a lot of people just won’t connect the logic dots of daily diet and health.

      • vauvert says:

        But if what they sell is unaffordable for a large part of the black/ Latino fan base, won’t that perpetuate the idea that fresh, plant based (or responsibly raised omni food) is unattainable and for the rich, so we might as well stick to McD? This is not snark, just an honest question.
        Personally I won’t buy anything a celeb shills, I am perfectly capable of making decisions based on my own research and looking up to actual nutritionists, etc…. And I think this is an idiotic idea anyway, not to mention poorly realize; what we should be teaching and demonstrating is how to eat healthy by cooking real food at home, in an affordable way, not overpriced snotty meals delivered by a venture of two Multi millionaire, completely out of touch with reality stars…..

      • JenniferJustice says:

        And the irony is shilling the diet as a means to an end of looking like her since we all know she’s had lipo, enhancements, bleaching, etc. Going vegan, even her brand of vegan, is not how she maintains herself. I’m offended they think we’re so gullible.

      • Imo says:

        With all due respect you’re approaching all this from a knowledge based feasibility foundation. Many do not have access to the information or statistics you do. Like it or not many of those who could benefit most from a healthier diet do not prowl local produce markets, consult nutritional experts or trade healthy eating tips with their yogis. They watch music videos, buy music online and attend concerts. I’m not supporting the particulars of Beyonce’s service. I’m supporting the idea that it may get people talking who otherwise may not be exposed to these ideas. Many may not be able to afford her dumb delivery service or have access to it but it is the idea of eating healthier that could lead to better food selection.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        But that is the point. Beyoncé has access to doctors and nutritionists with those statistics. She could use this as a nutrition platform rather than a weight loss one. That she’s not is likely more harmful than helpful. Veganism is a crazy diet that celebrities have prepackaged and sent to them instead of an actual discussion of whole foods. She has the attention to make a difference and instead she’s selling a delivered diet. I think people like me who ARE aware of those statistics are frustrated that her angle doesn’t put any attention on those issues and is highly unlikely to make people who consistently eat fatty fried foods think they can or should look at healthier, affordable options.

      • Sofia says:

        @Paleokifaru: I totally agree with what you wrote, I couldn’t said it better. The problem with celebs endorsing diets is how they approach it. When they mention “health” is just a way to reinforce looks, loosing weight. There’s a whole business using that strategy. There’s no real conversation about health and food and eating habits. It’s about looks or/and lifestyle. And the target is usually easy to convince, because celebs like Beyonce have influence over millions of people who are not really questioning anything, they just love her and therefore she is perfect. End of conversation. What they do (with diets and lots of other things) is what adverting/marketing does which is using people’s insecurities and fears against themselves.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        For sure @Sofia. It’s especially difficult to watch with something like veganism which always draws attention with celebrities touting it as their miracle diet and then reversing a few years later claiming they had to quit for health reasons. Veganism doesn’t *have* to be unhealthy and I would love to see one reasonable celeb endorser give real life advice with their nutritionist that would focus on whole life health. There are plenty of people, especially in college, who switch to veganism or vegetarianism because they think it’s cool and then live on French fries or fried mozzarella sticks. It’s not always healthy and these celeb endorsers are missing the mark and doing damage to impressionable teens eating habits. I would love to see one of these celebs really show what a cool, diverse diet you can have sans meat and what a great opportunity it can be to explore new foods and flavors. I’ve been slowly exposing my own family to those things and it’s amazing what my stepson will eat now and has in his food knowledge bank that he didn’t have before.

  9. GingerCrunch says:

    Stick to dancin’, honey.

    • TrustMOnThis says:

      SRSLY. And if you don’t think the spanx to end all spanx is under that thing, well…

  10. mememe says:

    Must they include salads? Are there people incapable of making vegan SALAD??? That’s the easiest part.

    • Paleokifaru says:

      I laughed at that too. I ate a “plant based diet” by myself but my husband and stepson don’t so my eating habits have changed a bit in the last year or so cooking for the whole family. But you what wasn’t difficult to keep vegan? The freaking salads! Yeesh.

  11. Suzanne says:

    I try to make most of my meals vegan, and during the week, a massive salad with loads of veggies is my easiest option. However, there are tons of non-salad vegan options out there that taste really good!

  12. annaloo. says:

    Back off Colorado, Beyonce!!

  13. Blythe says:

    I’m just happy that she’s another public figure who is putting light on veganism. I’m a vegetarian, but I’ll make that full transition someday. It’s truly beneficial. Sure – Beyoncé may be a bit problematic, but at least she’s doing a bit of advocacy.

    • sofia says:

      As a Vegan I actually feel this is not good for Veganism. It makes it look like something only for celebrities, trendy, it forgets the activism or lifestyle around not using ANY animal products (not just the diet), it confuses people when they go from vegan and then plant based…. It’s doesn’t really educate but it reinforces stereotypes. But maybe that’s just me. Maybe fans of hers will read about it and educate themselves, but I doubt it.

      • AcidRock says:

        But does it really confuse people, though? To the extent that they cannot get the jist of what she’s saying: there is a huge amount of benefit to adding more “plant-based” products into one’s diet, even if one does not entirely eliminate meat. She may not have people lining up to completely dump their omnivore lifestyles, but if someone takes more than a cursory glance at the produce section the next time they’re at the grocery store, it helps. Every little bit helps. And I think we can all see that Beyonce’s aim with her attempted veganism has never been about activism or refusing to use/wear all animal products beyond food (didn’t she show up to some vegan event wearing leather or something?); truth be told, that’s simply not everyone’s priority. But if people can at the very least focus on their own health, like I said, every little bit helps to start.

      • sofia says:

        I would agree with what you wrote if the focus was on health but it isn’t. It’s on looks and money. And it doesn’t send the message that anyone can be in control of their diet because they are selling a service that will do it for you. My issue is the celebrity/superficial stamp associated with something that’s more complex. I’m not saying all or nothing, far from that, but their approach to it doesn’t sound serious or responsible. Again, I doubt people will look at this as something interesting they want to know more about, it’s just the trendy thing at the moment so Bey can earn a few more $$$. Sorry for my skepticism ^_^

    • qwerty says:

      Wath Gary Yourofsky’s speech and you’ll probably go vegan straight away. It;s on youtube.

      Beyonce isn’t doing sh*t for veganism. She;s doing it all for herself as always, she doesn;t care about veganism or animals, she’s often papped dressed head to toe in leather.

      • sofia says:

        I actually can’t stand that guy (but I believe he does what he does because he believes in it). He is too aggressive and many people will get defensive about what he says and won’t listen. It really bothers me when he assumes to be some sort of Martin Luther King or Gandhi and makes comparisons with Holocaust and rape. And for someone who talks about compassion towards animals, he has none with humans or even tries to educate people coming form a place of understanding.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        @Sofia you hit the nail on the head with the reason many ignore these types of activists. They’ve left no room for human compassion and understanding for plights like poverty or the need for jobs, etc. I’ve seen many of the same issues in developing countries with problems in wildlife management. Very well said.

      • Sofia says:

        Thanks @Paleokifaru! I actually thought a lot about this. I come from a southern Europe country where food is a big deal (Mediterranean diet). It’s part of our culture in a way that everything revolves around food, everything. Everything social has some sort of food element to it. No one can presume that something that’s part of my identity, country history and culture for centuries will change because some shocking images. It won’t. People get annoyed, feel defensive and shove that under the rug and go trough their lives like before. They are not monsters, they are people who live complex lives with a lot of noise inside out. As I see it, compassion starts with understanding that food is a very personal matter with a cultural dimension. In my opinion if a Vegan started a non judgmental conversation with a curious non Vegan with this in mind more could be accomplished.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        @Sofia exactly! There are so many parts of the world where meat eating is part of machismo or economic status. In many places it’s linked to being MORE healthy because it’s viewed as part of raising robust children. I’ve also been to many places where people think being in a vegetarian is only for religious reasons. Or that only privileged foreigners would choose vegetarianism because we have access to more foods and cleaner water to use the produce. This is precisely where celebs like Beyoncé could step up. Address that cultural bias and instead of selling a prepackaged diet plan talk about ways to tweak the cultural staples and add in new foods, etc. So disappointing how people automatically jump to an extreme when they could do so much by meeting in the middle.

      • Sofia says:

        @Paleokifaru, I didn’t even thought about the machismo or the religious issues! I never thought about it in that way. You do seem to know a lot about the social/sociological and cultural side of food. Can you point some books or forums where I can learn more about this?

        I agree with the way celebs could help, but you know how vegans can easily be attacked so I also understand why someone famous and vegan wouldn’t want to carry the flag and deal with the responsibility of representing the cause knowing the hate they would get. It saddens me, but i understand.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        @Sofia if I can think of any books or articles I’ll be sure to find you in a future thread and pass those on! I was really just thinking about my own experiences living abroad as well as in various parts of the US. I also tend to work with international teams that have anthropology backgrounds so these types of issues are frequently meal time conversations. I do know that recently some social anthropologists have started focusing on food culture so you might start there in a search for literature. Food is such a great intersection of the biological and social that it provides such amazing commonalities and opportunities to be divisive.

      • Sixer says:

        Sofia and Paleokifaru – I love you two! Sofia – Eating by Pete Singer and Jim Mason is a great book about the ethics of food. It weighs up all sorts of moral issues – is it better to eat imported but organic food or local but intensively farmed food, for example.

        It allows everyone to come to their own conclusions about their own ideals, but the authors come down on the side of a local, mostly vegan diet, but one supplemented occasionally by bivalves (eg oysters) and organic, humanely slaughtered meat produced on land (eg hills and mountains) unsuitable for crop production.

        I like it because it is kind and compassionate and non-judgemental.

        http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Peter-Singer/dp/0099504022/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1431415400&sr=8-4&keywords=eating+by+peter+singer+jim+mason

      • Sofia says:

        @Paleokifaru & Sixer: Thank you both! (I love you too Sixer:D). I don’t know why I didn’t come across that book earlier. And I’ll look more into anthropology and food.
        Wow, who knew Beyoncé on celebitchy could lead to such an interesting conversation!:)

      • Paleokifaru says:

        This is so great! Thanks Sixer! Can’t wait to run into you two on other threads.

  14. Remy says:

    Well, she’s not a vegan. Vegan means more than eating no animal products. It means a no-animal lifestyle: no leather, no down, no suede, etc.

    Borges didn’t invent or brand the term “plant-based diet.” It’s been around forever and is used specifically to differentiate people who don’t consume animal products with those who live a vegan lifestyle.

    Also, not the first plant-based diet or vegetarian meal delivery service. So nothing new here.

    • MBP says:

      You’re right that vegan is a whole lifestyle, but I find “plant based” a little vague. As in, if you look at my dinner plate it is certainly based on plant food, but I am far from vegan.
      “Vegan cuisine” would be the most accurate term I think? With “cuisine” being fancy-pants enough for these guys, as opposed to us plebs with our “food” or “diet”. ;)

      • Remy says:

        Ha! Well, I think the exception would be mushrooms. They are they’re own kingdom, not plants. But I still like the term plant-based diet.

        Lifelong vegetarian here, several years plant-based, and my go to response to friends and family when they try to convince me “fish” isn’t meat, is: “Is it a plant?” :) You could probably do the inverse, if eating, say, nuts doesn’t feel like “plants.” Is it an animal?

        They would love the term “cuisine.”

      • Wren says:

        To me it sounds like a fancy way of saying “eat more vegetables”. Same age-old advice, different wording. Whatever.

    • Sara says:

      Exactly. Beyoncé is NOT vegan. Being vegan means not exploiting the innocent. Beyoncé eats a plant-based diet. She still wears her animal made garbage and is still an assh@le.

      • Remy says:

        Yeah, and if you want to be really specific, a vegan diet doesn’t even mean “plant-based,” it means getting permission from a sentient being that can consent. So, for example, many vegans don’t eat honey. However, not to be crude, they can, ahem….”swallow” ;) because their partner can give permission for that.

  15. Irene says:

    I genuinely do not understand why she’s so worshiped.

    She’s a terrible dresser, her voice is mediocre at best, and 95% of her solo songs suck. Yet people fall over themselves to declare her the ‘queen’. (IS SHE REALLY WEARING HEAD TO TOE JEANS?) Nah.

    • AlmondJoy says:

      I don’t get why people worship her either. I also genuinely do not understand why people dislike her so much 😕

      • Yabby says:

        Because she is shoved down our throats. This overexposed, nothing is scared, I will shill anything to make a buck- attiude is anything but becoming. I used to have no opinion about Beyonce but that’s beginning to change.

      • AlmondJoy says:

        Interesting. How is she shoved down our throats? She barely does interviews, she doesn’t have a reality show, she’s rarely a guest on talk shows… There’s an article about her on CB every few weeks at the most. I really don’t get what you’re saying.

      • AcidRock says:

        I don’t get the whole notion that she is “shoved down our throats” either. You don’t want to hear her music, flip the radio station. You don’t want to see her videos, avoid them on Youtube. Same for not reading articles with interviews, album reviews, concert reviews, etc.

        Besides, isn’t it the aim of EVERY artist to be shoved down people’s throats?? That’s their bread and butter; the opposite means no career and no money. This argument is silly and singles Beyonce out as the only one whose goal as an artist is to achieve maximum saturation and visibility – THEY ALL WANT THAT. So what that she also has a clothing line (I think?) or signed her name to another product; it’s upping her exposure across multiple markets and in multiple arenas and is how many artists go on to finance their lifestyles when the music sales or movie offers dry up (see: Jessica Simpson, Jessica Alba, Blake Lively).

        I just don’t see anywhere that she’s doing something others are not, yet she takes the brunt of the criticism about her actions.

      • Paleokifaru says:

        I don’t know. I think Taylor Swift, GOOP and Lively get similar criticism. I for one DO change the station for Beyoncé and Swift now because it’s all overplayed. I’m currently doing the same with Ed Sheernan and O e Republic so it’s not just females. I think people get annoyed at the *really* hard shilling and drumming up of gossip, like pregnancy and dating or divorce rumors that seem planted, while also getting their projects thrown full force everywhere. Naked dresses don’t help either. People also went after Aniston hard running up to the Oscar nominations. Their brands and the crazed level of fans and detractors just gets old after awhile you know?

      • Bridget says:

        Interesting question. Is Beyonce really shoved down our throats? I’d have to agree with the folks saying ‘no’. But I do also think that she’s a marketing creation. It’s like she told everyone that she’s an icon so many times that everyone just believes it now.

  16. Lisa says:

    Lol, she’s not really rebranding it if she avoids saying it.

  17. Beatrice says:

    Have you checked out the meal delivery service? For one person its over $600 for 3 meals per day for 22 days. The cost per meal ranges from over $9 to $14 depending on the plan you choose. Not quite in GOOP territory, but pretty pricey for me!!

  18. Ann says:

    Her narcissism is exhausting.

  19. Mar says:

    This article really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. All she had to say was she eats a plant based diet. Vegan is a lifestyle that is based upon not having to hurt an animal for anything you eat or wear or utilize. The hope from Colorado thing is just dumb.

  20. TheBizzla says:

    Can someone please tell me what happened with “Nows she pregnant with anotha one!” ~Jay-Z
    That really confused me. They buried her in sand with a baby bump, she wore all those loose fitting gowns.. now she’s skinny and mid-riff showing again.
    Wha happen?!

  21. lila fowler says:

    From the article: “In an email, Beyoncé wrote “at first it’s the little things I noticed: I had more energy” — though, sadly, not enough to deal with a reporter asking about it on the phone, as had been promised for more than a month. Beyoncé, a representative explained, has not answered any direct questions for more than a year.” LOL. I keep thinking to that time when Oprah had Beyonce on her show (ages ago now) and asked her what her favorite book was. Beyonce could not come up with ~anything. It was cringeworthy. I really don’t think she and Jay are terribly involved or educated in this endeavor.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      They aren’t educated in anything other than the music biz and that’s only JayZ. She didn’t do the interview as promised because she knows she can’t articulate. It’s safe to have her PR peeps write an e-mail and click send so she avoids questions she can’t answer.

    • TeaAndSympathy says:

      Is she really that bad, JenniferJustice? Wow. I’ve ever liked her or her husband – they just rub me up the wrong way, somehow. As time goes on, I like them even less. Is it just me or is she really becoming a teensy bit tryhard – the outfits of late, especially, but also the wigs and seemingly changing face, (lighter skin??) She appears to be more attention-seeking, too, with her social networking posts wearing very revealing attire. She’s starting to remind me of a certain reality (disa)star…

  22. Naddie says:

    She sounds very stupid, just like her lyrics imply.

  23. nic says:

    It’s important that you all know that I had a banana and toast for breakfast. You’re welcome. God, what a douche.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Oh, thank you for sharing your secrets. Lol.

    • Paleokifaru says:

      Hilarious! That’s also why I’m not on FB or Twitter. I just don’t need to know those details or be exposed to inspirational quotes 24/7.

  24. Fd says:

    I’m also not a fan of her music though I do think she’s gorgeous. I’m very tired of celebrities selling stuff though. Most of them are not very educated and they are surrounded by syncophants so they think they know everything. Also they all think they are environmentalists whatever but no genuine environmentalist would advocate the kind of consumerism they take for granted as their birthright. Just. Stop.

    • Nina says:

      I think she looks like a man close-up, prettier from far away with a lot of make-up,
      I’m guessing she knows she isn’t such hot shit either if she’s always photo shopping herself.

  25. shizwhat says:

    How come no one ever talks about Beyonce’s face and boob changes?

    • JenniferJustice says:

      I do. It really bothers me that her fan base is women – women, who advocate for body-acceptance, being proud of their heritage, and fighting for the term ‘beauty’ to not equal the American blonde silf surfer stereotype, and yet they put this woman on a pedestal who bleached her skin, bleached her hair, had lipo, breast implants, nose jobs and don’t kid yourslef – she starves herself before concerts – she has said so. She is not a role model and yet…..

      • TeaAndSympathy says:

        Shizwhat: it’s not just me, then? Phew! I should have read further down, before posting upthread… You put it perfectly, JenniferJustice.

  26. Kitten says:

    Yeah those terrible vegans living a lifestyle that honors animals’ lives and minimizes their carbon footprint.

    I wish I had the level of devotion and sheer conviction that is required of a vegan lifestyle.

    • Sofia says:

      It’s a process and it can take a lot of time to feel from “I should” to “I must”. It’s not impossible, have faith in yourself. Just considering it is a great first step. It took me ten years btw.

  27. tabasco says:

    the hair does not look fake AT ALL in the romper pics ….

  28. MyHiddles says:

    So people in Colorado don’t wear deodorant? Eff off.

  29. kri says:

    I am just here to say that I am NOT taking advice about anything from a woman who wears flesh-toned wedges whilst stunt doubling for a sprinkled donut. Good god-she has reached new levels of arrogance and has now out GOOPed GOOP. What’s next?! When she farts, I bet she bottles it so she can smell it all day long.

  30. MammaBear says:

    Enough already with the inanities. Most “Vegans” don’t give a sh*t about so-called “negative connotations’… Leading a vegan lifestyle is mostly a well thought through sometimes challenging process that has nothing to do with others perceptions and everything to do with planet sustainability and leading a healthy life.

  31. Pumpkin Pie says:

    Vegans do not eat or**use** any kind of animal products. That’s veganism means, period.
    Talk about diet, it would be more truthful to call it strict-vegetarian or plant-based diet.
    The gluten-free diet can be dangerous for non-intolerant people because the body gets used to not digesting gluten,and it will become intolerant to gluten.
    OK for people not eating soy, more tofu and miso for me :)

  32. Bridget says:

    I hate that ponytail so much. It just looks so cheap and mall-girl.

  33. Miss W says:

    I don’t wear deodorant. It sounds like the people who don’t actually need this service are already healthy and aware of what they put in and on their bodies. So is she saying they want idiots who will eat anything just because she says so? Beyonce is beautiful, no doubt she works hard to maintain her body, but she’s not exactly the first woman that comes to mind when I think of like a hot strong healthy woman either.

  34. istolemyownname says:

    I hate that romper

  35. Fragile says:

    I just dont know where to begin…acting like you embrace a lifestyle, just to make money, you really dont need, and wont give to charity? * not THE fake giving to charity, but THE real giving, WHERE you feel getting lighter*
    THE lies to maintain some kind of image.
    Adoration of fakeness.

    THIS week:suprise something in Colorado, for that well thought about comment

  36. Minxis says:

    I honestly have never seen her weight fluctuate more than ten maybe twenty pounds. In the met gala photos she looks exactly the same to me as she always does. I guess I just don’t see it.

    I’m assuming the 65 pounds includes about 40 pounds of fake baby weight.

  37. morc says:

    Is this sponsored by Pepsi by way of her 50 million dollar endorsment deal?

  38. sauvage says:

    “We should spend more time loving ourselves…” Oh, Bey. You just don’t get the concept of love, do you? It’s a state of mind, a state of being. It’s a 24 hours a day thing. I couldn’t possibly “spend more time” loving my man, even if I tried because there are ony twenty-friggin’-four hours in a day! Got it? I hate how endorsements just throw out words like LOVE and CARE when all they mean is: GIVE US YOUR MONEY FOR USELESS SHIT! I can prepare myself a salad in no time, thank you very much.

    Sincerely yours, My-apartment-is-a-dust-covered-mess-and-I-still-have-more-walls-to-sand-Grumpopus

  39. Crumpet says:

    If everyone on this planet went to a strict plant based diet, we would be in big trouble. There is not enough arable land and water to grow the food that would be required.

    • Nina says:

      @Crumpet

      Yes, because we have SO much room for all the livestock and the green houses emissions they provide threatening our environment. Mmm-hmm, yes, please, educate me more.