Kate and Oliver Hudson aren’t surprised their bio dad is a mean a-hole

Yesterday we covered the story of Kate and Oliver Hudson’s biological father, Bill Hudson, claiming that he was a victim of parental alienation by their mother, Goldie Hawn. Bill was married to Goldie from 1976-1980 and has told the press for years that Goldie excluded him from their children’s lives and replaced him as a father with Kurt Russell. It would be somewhat understandable for Bill to complain about that, but he went one further by stating that Kate and Oliver should stop using his last name, that he never wanted to see either of them again, and that they were “dead” to him. Bill was responding to recent Instagram posts by both Kate and Oliver on Father’s Day in which they were honoring Kurt Russell as their dad. Oliver also posted a childhood photo with Kate and Bill and captioned it “happy abandonment day.”

US Magazine has a follow up to that story saying that Bill’s response wasn’t unexpected to either Kate or Oliver, which is just freaking sad to me. Bill did put out a tell-all book in 2011 about his relationship with Goldie and their kids and I guess nothing has changed at all. Here’s part of US’s report:

A source close to the How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days actress tells Us that Kate, 36, and Oliver, 38, had “zero relationship” with their musician dad for years. “They don’t care and are not surprised by this,” the insider tells Us. “It’s been this way, and he’s been saying this stuff forever.”

Another insider close to Oliver echoes what the first source told Us. “They weren’t surprised at all that Bill spoke out,” the pal says. “He’s always trying to clear his name and his image.”

Says the second source: “Oliver was just trying to be funny by posting that comment. In retrospect, he probably should have thought twice before putting that out. But what’s done is done.”

Another insider adds: “The Instagram was a joke… Oliver did not expect it to blow up to this level.”

Instead, both kids wished their mom’s longtime love, Kurt Russell, a Happy Father’s Day via social media. “Kate and Oliver consider Kurt their father,” the Kate pal tells Us. “He’s the best.”

The second insider adds that Bill already knew how his oldest two kids felt about him. “This wasn’t news to him,” the source claims to Us. “Nor was the fact that they consider Kurt to be the only father they’ve ever known…”

The Oliver pal, meanwhile, alleges that Bill knows what he’s doing. “They don’t see him or talk to him unless it’s by accident,” the insider tells Us of Oliver and Kate. “They just think it’s ridiculous that he’s playing the victim.”

[From US Magazine]

US got some believable quotes here which make it sound like Oliver is their source. As this article alludes to, In Bill’s bitter Daily Mail interview he mentioned that he ran into Oliver in a supermarket in Malibu and that they hugged. He said “I always thought Oliver could be the peacemaker, that somehow he would help bring our fractured family back together.” How can Oliver bring the family back together when Bill calls his kids “dead” to him and says he never wants to see them again? Bill slammed that door shut and told his kids to not let it hit them in the ass on the way out. What kind of person totally disowns their family without even a hint that he’s open to reconciliation? If Bill’s side of the story is true, if it’s all Goldie’s fault, he should have more sympathy and love for Oliver and Kate. As it is, he sounds like he’s playing the victim.

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  1. Kiddo says:

    They all sound like they suck. The baiting, the response, all public and all supposedly done by ADULTS.

    • lisa says:

      ita, i really dont like any of them

    • rose says:


      It’s as if they are hoping to get sympathy for how they’ve allowed this to play out in the public eye. Sound like a reality show you know?

      • Carol says:

        Bill is the one who brought his relationship with Goldie and the kids to the public eye. For years, even before the kids were adults, he was complaining to the press about his kids and Goldie. Goldie rarely said anything about him. And I don’t think Oliver and Kate would have said much publicly either had their father not been so public about his disappointment in them and his hatred towards Goldie,

      • funcakes says:

        Bill seems s little obsessed not because they want nothing to do with him but more about the fact that their more A list as a family and he’s some washed up has been from “The Hudson Brothers Show” from the 70’s

        It wasn’t until Kate won an Oscar that he started whining. He even did an E Hollywood interview about Kate. No one else was involved. He talked about her like he was always there.

        I’m so sick of his excuse about Goldie and lawyers being the one to come between him and the kids. BS. Goldie would have folded like a cheap chair if he would have threatened to go on every talk show and reveal all the dirt in his book.

        Didn’t he have kids with Cindy Williams? He’s should concentrate on them and stop talking to the press.

    • GingerCrunch says:

      Yes, yes, yes, AND YES!

    • perplexed says:

      I agree.

    • PrincessMe says:

      Yep, what you said.

    • Duchess of Corolla says:


      • Sabrine says:

        They all sound incredibly immature. I agree with the bio dad though. The further he stays away from his two children with Goldie Hawn the better off he will be. A quick wave if he sees them in public would be nice. You go your way – I go mine and let’s be let’s call it a day – and be civil about it.

    • blue marie says:

      I call my bio-dad sperm donor, we don’t have much to do with each other but I told him what I thought of him face to face not on social media, that seems childish to me..

      • Kiddo says:

        That’s what I think too. If you post something like that publicly, especially if you are a famous person, you are looking for a spectacle.

    • Shambles says:

      To be fair, I don’t think Kate bears any of the suckiness here. She didn’t post any baity, immature Instagram photos, and she can’t help that Oliver tagged her in his. I don’t think the photo she posted with Kurt was baiting, I think she was just honoring her “Pa” in a really sweet way. He was the father she knew in the reality she grew up in, for better or for worse. Do I think that reality was warped a little bit by some a$$hole adults? Definitely. But I think it’s Bill and Goldie who bear the heaviest responsibility for that. If the kids really were brainwashed, it’s not their fault. But Oliver is an adult now, and the Instagram photo was cringey. He lowered himself to Bill’s scummy level by firing shots in public, so he does get a spot on the list of suckiness.

    • lucy2 says:

      Yes. And BS on him not expecting a big response. Has he been living under a rock the past few years, with the way social media and celebrity works? If it was a joke between him and his sister, which is understandable, why not send it in a text to her? Why put it out there publicly?

      • Shambles says:

        Agreed. He should have definitely texted her. I would be embarrassed if I were Kate.

      • FLORC says:

        Oliver has long been the odd one. He acts like he’s not aware people can see what he does and make their own judgements.
        I remember when he was the 1st out at a poker tournament. He acted foolishly to say the least.

        I don’t doubt he’s the USWeekly source and he didn’t clear that with his family.

    • Corrie says:

      Yes and yes. Everyone here is no good for each other. I’m not gonna blame Bill for it all. He definitely plays a part… but these kids are grown as is Goldie. Separation seems better unfortunately. No love lost.

    • aemish says:

      I was just gonna say, this is uncomfortable immature from these people. Sounds like Real Housewives caliber garbage.

    • Michelle says:

      He said he NEVER said they are dead to me. He said “it is like a death to him”. He was on one of the entertainment shows tonight. He seems sincere.

  2. ccinkissimmee says:

    Oliver resembles Kurt Russell. ..I had no idea he wasn’t their bio dad.

  3. ilikegettindrunk says:

    I think they all sound like a bunch of a-holes.

  4. GingerCrunch says:

    Families, though.

  5. Crumpet says:

    ” If Bill’s side of the story is true, if it’s all Goldie’s fault, he should have more sympathy and love for Oliver and Kate.”


    • vilebody says:


      Oliver and Kate are now old enough to make their own decisions. The tell-all book that he published was tacky, but still very sad and illuminating. Kate Hudson has not allowed Bill to meet his grandchild. Kate has not bothered to meet her half-siblings. Kate even refused to see her grandmother on her deathbed. The grandmother! I think Bill had hoped that his children would grow out of Goldie’s influence, but at this point, he’s recognized that they are just as vile as she is.

      Not that he’s a perfect angel, but still . . . Team Bill in this argument.

      • Meatball says:

        If he hasn’t been in her life, through his fault or her mother’s, she has no relationship with him and probably doesn’t want one. Why should she introduce him to her children? Also calling them vile is a bit overboard. If Goldie has indeed poisoned them against him, then they grew up believing the worst about the man. I can see why they would have nothing to do with him.

      • ilikegettindrunk says:

        Team Bill 100%

      • Kitten says:

        Bill also did 3 or 4 interviews with The Daily Mail. Jayna posted one below. In one interview he describes his sex life with Goldie in disgusting detail, then turns around and claims that she consistently cheated on him because “she needs a different man for every day of the week”.

        He claims she had an affair with Yves Renier, Bruno Wintzell, and that she cheated on Gus Trikonis with him.

        He went on to describe his daughter:

        (when Kate was just a toddler): “She loved the mirror and, as she grew, she had an aloofness about her. Just like her mother.”

        (about Kate as an adult): “Kate is her mother’s child. She has a harshness about her. She has aligned herself with her mother and perpetuated this story about me abandoning the family. That simply isn’t true. I fought legally and I physically turned up to see them.”

        (about Kurt Russell): “But Goldie and Kurt thwarted me at every turn. I feel they used their money to take the kids away from me.”

        (and more about Kate): “Kate grew up a pampered Hollywood princess. She needed some drama in her back story and I became that drama.”

        This is just ONE of many, MANY interviews this guy has given.

        Based on just these quotes, I’m very shocked at all the people here that are giving Bill Hudson a free pass. I mean, maybe all the sh*t-talking is one of many reasons why his kids want nothing to do with him. Even if you think Oliver was wrong to post that and even if you think Goldie is not who she presents herself to be to the public, the fact that so many of you are defending this guy is odd to me.
        I just can’t side with any dude who talks so venomously about his ex and his children. F*ck, the dude even talked sh*t about Kurt Russell who is probably the most blameless one in this situation.

        At some point, when you read interview after interview where this man has not one positive, kind, or gracious thing to say about his family, you have to think that maybe he’s the problem, and not the people who decided they no longer wanted him in their lives.

        If this was a man who had stayed silent about his past or at least taken the high road, then maybe I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. But never does this man come across as wounded, hurt, or desperately seeking to reconnect with his children. On the contrary, he sounds bitter, indignant, and rather ill-tempered if I do say so myself.

      • perplexed says:

        I think most of us don’t know what Bill Hudson has said in the past (well, I don’t anyway). I don’t give him a pass for anything. I just have no idea why either side wants to air their grievances in public ( which is how took Oliver’s social media comment. I didn’t see anything bad about Kate Hudson’s photo).

        I do think Kurt Russell comes out looking the best out of everybody because it seems he keeps quiet.

      • Kitten says:

        But Perplexed, this is one time that Oliver gave a response to this man. Contrast that with the detailed interviews AND the tell-all book that Hudson wrote.

        I think of myself as someone who always tries to take the high road (note I said “tries” lol). But if I was in his situation, it would be incredibly difficult to never say anything about a man who has aired every piece of dirty laundry for the world to see.

        Oliver and Kate have been giving this guy the floor for a long time. Sure, Oliver shouldn’t have “poked the bear” (as Kiddo so aptly put it) but I can’t say that I blame him. After years of silently putting up with Bill Hudson’s sh*t, the guy finally broke. It happens, you know?

      • perplexed says:

        After seeing the full extent of his father’s comments, I can see why Oliver would have posted the comment. I don’t know if I think it was the best idea, but I can see why the urge was there.

        I think there’s a lot to the story I don’t know.

      • LizzyFizzy says:

        @Kitten–you are so right. Kate & Oliver have seen Bill trash their mom–particularly sexually– for attention for *decades* and now he’s moved up to trashing Kate for having, gasp, three* serious public relationships as an adult? He’s got the nerve to psychoanalyze her life when he’s never even met Matt Bellamy, for example? And guilt her about what she hasn’t done for him? He is a hot mess and they are better off without him, in all likelihood. He’s *literally* profiting off of slamming them and their mother with his books and interviews.

        *She did marry and have a child very young, got divorced (supposedly amicably), and then had well-known relationships with Owen Wilson and Matt Bellamy and a second child? That’s not a track record of infidelity, that’s called being a successful 35 year old with a life history. Stop slut-shaming your daughter, Bill! That interview is just so, so vicious and mean.

      • laura in LA says:

        Kitten, I’m with you on this one…

        The more Bill talks, the worse he looks. And I know personalities like his, always playing the victim, never acknowledging their own part in the problem or apologizing for it, blameshifting and projecting their own issues on to everyone else.

        Hey, maybe Goldie and Kurt aren’t all that, but I think it’s very telling that they’ve stayed together for so long and he’s been a beloved father to Oliver and Kate, without even the legal commitment of marriage to keep him there.

        Meanwhile, Bill’s been married a few times and has a few different families, and while this in itself doesn’t make him a *bad* person, his inability to sustain relationships, moreover the way he’s exploited his eldest two, means to me that he’s probably a very difficult one.

        So maybe Goldie and Kurt did distance Oliver and Kate from Bill, but I have to say they probably had good reason to do it – and their silence over the years to me proves it.

      • Greyson says:

        Agreed! Good to see this comment.

        They are in their 30s and have children of their own. They started this last public round of feuding, and now Oliver claiming his mean-spirited post was a “a joke” is so transparent.

      • Kitten says:

        @ Perplexed-As I said on yesterday’s thread, I fell down the rabbit hole when googling Bill Hudson. I just wanted to get one fact straight, but ended up reading interview after interview with this guy and I was shocked at how vulgar and contemptible this man is. If at any point he had something that was less-than-awful or even neutral to say about Goldie, Oliver, and Kate I might be a bit more understanding. But he seems incapable of following the old adage: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. He just seems like a really sh*tty human.

        @LizzyFizzy-When I read his comments about Kate’s perceived “promiscuity” and how he thinks that she likely cheated on the men she was involved with, I was so disgusted. Again, this man does NOT know Kate from a “hole in the wall” (her quote) and yet he thinks it’s ok to surmise and speculate about her fidelity?

        “Kate has a wandering eye, just like her mother. Kate grew up in an environment where her mother was this exotic, glamorous creature. It makes sense that she equates love with excitement.”

        Notice how in every statement he makes about Kate, he brings up Goldie? It’s f*cking pathological with him. Either this dude is BIG-TIME projecting or he just flat-out despises women. Or maybe it’s a bit of both.

        I would be more likely to believe his comments about Goldie if he wasn’t so hell-bent on painting her as an evil trollop who took advantage of his kind and loving nature. That narrative just smells funny to me. I have no problem accepting that Goldie isn’t perfect, maybe she’s not even that nice, but I highly doubt she is as cold, conniving, and heartless as this man makes her out to be.

        If he had left it at “well, we didn’t see eye-to-eye in regards to commitment” it wouldn’t bother me, but he sounds like he has paranoid delusional disorder when he rails about Goldie’s cheating.

        So was Goldie unfaithful? I have no idea, but this guy makes it really hard for me to believe him, you know?

        My personal opinion is that the guy is a misogynist through and through.

      • Chichi says:

        @Vilebody If you went and dug that u theres no way you didnt see his interviews with tabloids exclusively dedicated to trashing Kate and her mother. The second she becama star he started cashing in with these crazy interviews where he provides commentary over her life based on tabloid gossip in interviews. Who wants a spiteful loose tongued dbag around their kid? The very fact that Kate, herself having gone through divorce herself, still thinks that his bitterness crosses the line is very telling. If your kids in their mid thirties still want nothing to do with you even after you present your “best case” in the form of a book, then its time to stop mouthing off about conspiracies to undermine you and start pointing the finger at yourself.

        Also heres how that dream introduction of yours would go: “Timmy, heres your granddad. Careful what you say around him though, you know he has Daily Mail on speed dial. Also, grand dad can hold a grudge like a champ so whatever you do, dont upset him. Speaking of grudges, you may have read on the internet, a long long list of names that your grand dad accuses your grandma of cheating with. Or that he thinks mummy is incapable of committment. Well, just ignore it son, grandma as you know has been with your grandpa Kurt, for over 30 years so shes clearly just fine. I’m still searching for my Kurt and well, the guy who is throwing out these accusations is twice divorced and currently alone, but your grand dad was never the sharpest tool in the shed. Thats about it,oh and whatever you do, dont ever talk about your grandpa Kurt in a loving fashion. Seriously, just dont. Off you go now Timmy.”

      • NativeAtlantaGirl says:

        My father is an ass. As a kid, mother had to balance between protecting me but allowing me to make up my own mind about him. At 14, i decided I didn’t want to participate in his wedding to his new wife and her 4 sons. He had been physically, emotionally, and financially abusive. He put the boys thru expensive private school while my mother struggled to keep food on the table. He misspelled my name in birthday cards, “recycled” bday cards to me (whiting out the original signature) instead of buying a card for me (his bday is a week before mine). He wouldn’t contribute to my college education unless I went to a specific college and had thr major he selected. I couldn’t qualify for a lot of financial assistance bc he was very wealthy. So I worked FT while going to college FT. I had to take off some semesters bc I just didn’t have the $. I graduated with a double major but didn’t go to graduation bc I had to work. My father said I clearly didn’t actually graduate since he wasn’t invited to the ceremony. I was criticized for the “cheap” wedding gift to a step-brother i had had maybe 2 conversations with in 10years (nothing on registry under $300 & I was still trying to pay for college) The final straw was when he said to me “why can’t you be normal?” I worked for a Fortune 10 company, achieved success despite him – but bc I was buying a house “before getting married” (I was single, why pay rent). I realized that he had no value in my life. I didn’t say anything to indicate I never wanted to zpeak to him again, he just never contacted me again. I haven’t seen him in 19 years – i assume he is still alive. He lived less than 15mins away from where I live. He sucked as a father and as a human being, he offered zero.

        So, I am not team Dad. Really have not give him a thought in more than a decade. All of this just came spilling out – I think even though the children are adults, the father has made mistakes and he should attempt to change the tone. Fortunately, they had a great guy to fill the gap that their own father did.

    • Lori says:

      Perhaps he did when they were minors, but they are in their mid-late thirties now. Adults for 20 years. If they don’t want a relationship with him now its not their mothers fault.

      • Kitten says:

        It’s important to note that Bill Hudson gave up custody. Goldie always had primary custody, but primary custody still means JOINT custody.

        Bill Hudson claims that Goldie and Kurt made it extremely difficult for him to have visitations. Whether that’s true or not, fact still remains that he gave up custody of those kids.

      • Getreal says:

        Reading about his this ass has trashed their mom, why would they ever want a relationship with him? So he can sell it to the press during a tantrum? I wouldn’t introduce this fool to my children either. Adult children of narcissists learn quick to cut and run before these snakes can slither back into their lives and wreck more havoc.

  6. GPSB says:

    None of this should be being aired in public.

    Having said that, anyone who has read “You’ll Never Eat Lunch In This Town Again” knows that Goldie isn’t all sun and smiles, and Bill Hudson likely isn’t making up the nastiness that went down from her side over their children. Again, none of this needs to be blasted all over social media. But really no one’s hands are clean here.

    • Jaded says:

      ITA – she has a reputation as a complete beyotch and control freak here in Canada. They have a huge cottage in Ontario (Muskoka) and a place in Vancouver and stories are constantly leaking about how nasty she can be.

      In any event, social media is the chicken’s way to humiliate people and only makes them all look petty and passive-aggressive.

    • Duchess of Corolla says:

      I get a very nasty vibe from Goldie. I’ve never cared for her. I liked “Private Benjamin,” but other than that, no.

    • Chichi says:

      What does the book say about Goldie?

      Not that it will change my mind on this matter. Bill has publicly trashed his own daughter before, he strikes me as quite the selfish d*ck. As Kaiser correctly points out, if he really believes some mega lifelong project to allienate his kids is underway, then the kids are victims. He ought to have used Olivers post as opportunity to set the record straight and open the door to talk NOT to publicly pronounce his children dead to him. Classic narcisist behavior.

    • epiphany says:

      Yes, I mentioned this in yesterday’s post. I don’t know that Hawn’s a bitch, but she is certainly an assertive, take-charge individual who likes to be in control. Her giggly, scatterbrained image is just that. Whether she deliberately kept the kids from Hudson because she was bitter over the breakup, or if she truly believed him to be an unfit father, I don’t know, but she had the financial wherewithal and the star power back then to manipulate the situation to her advantage.

      • Christina says:

        money for lawyers or having legal knowledge and the power to whisk kids away at a moments notice are huge advantages, and the courts of the 1970′s and ’80′s were very different. Many friends asked me, “Why didn’t they give you full custody? You are the mother, and the mother always gets the kids.” That was closer to true then than it is now. Courts today believe that, barring mental illness or physical or sexual violence, parents co parenting is the best and healthiest disposition in these cases. If Husdon is truly an ass, it would be clearer today because of the grueling court process. My ex, who alienated me from my kid, is the son of a judge. He got his way for a long time because he knows the court system very well, but I have fought him for years with every penny I have, and then my husband helped. My ex turned out to have a personality disorder. If Bill Hudson is similarly afflicted, that’s the only way to know, because Oliver and Bill’s behavior is so troubling.

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  7. newl me says:

    I don’t care. They made beautiful children. I mean, look at Kate and oliver. They seem close. Its a pity about their dad tho

    • Jegede says:

      Bill Hudson makes some good looking kids. Oliver is his image.

    • Shambles says:

      They did make some stinkin’ attractive children. I think Kate is gorgeous. I know it’s a frothy RomCom, but I had a serious crush on her in “Fool’s Gold.” She rocks that bohemian surfer girl vibe. And I seriously want some of her Fabletics gear (sorry for straying OT, but I have a workout clothing obsession).

    • A says:

      She’s had plastic surgery though…

  8. Pinky says:

    Seems to me Oliver was trying to be funny and get attention the way Ronan Farrow did when he tweeted “Happy father’s day — or as they call it in my family, happy brother-in-law’s day.” That got a ton of attention for a bit, then that all died down. It wasn’t mean-spirited, though it too was rooted in pain, and there wasn’t much anyone could do but laugh with him about it. Many of us also didn’t know the details of the history between the eldest Hudson kids and their dad (we do now) and to post that photo was the icing on the cake. He was pointedly calling out his dad and it embarrassed him publicly. What did he expect his dad to do? He’s already proven to be fame-hungry since he wrote a whole book about his life, in which he slut-shamed his ex-wife and daughter, and still accepts no responsibility for his role in this mess. This was the only way this was going to end. Oliver should have known better and shouldn’t be surprised now that his dad reacted or that, among the sympathy Oliver is getting, he’s also getting a little side-eye.

    • Livvers says:

      This is one aspect of the story I wonder about, just how much attention Oliver thought his post would get. I imagine when you are raised by and alongside people who are way more famous than you, it’s easy to get the impression that strangers aren’t watching you (because in comparison to your mother, father, and sister, they aren’t), when in fact you do still have way more residual fame than an ordinary person. If his post had of gone out to 100 or so followers, it would have been a slightly bitter joke among friends. Instead, it goes out to the whole world, and we all have Opinions.

      Not to discount the possibility that he was purposely capitalizing on his fame-adjacent position to get the message out, but it’s better for my mental health if I give unknown people the benefit of the doubt.

    • Kitten says:

      I agree. I wonder if Oliver had thrown a couple back before he posted that. It just doesn’t seem in character for him. But yeah, Bill Hudson thrives off of sh*t like this. Oliver gave him exactly what he wanted.

    • Kiddo says:

      Ronan Farrow was absolutely looking for attention and traction on his comment, since he was starting his show, and it was a joke intended to harm.

      • Pinky says:

        My recollection of the situation is that after that tweet, there was renewed interest in Farrow and he was subsequently offered a show–not that he was trying to get attention because he already had a show coming out.

      • Kiddo says:

        I don’t recall the timeline but I DO RECALL all the buzz about him being Sinatra’s kid was started by his mother right before, or at the start of the show. This is not to say I have fond feelings for Woody, I don’t. But I can separate that out from the motivation of causing pain through a jab, and also garnering attention for one’s self, as a means to an end, which I believe Ronan did.

      • GPSB says:

        Agree with everything you said, Kiddo.

  9. Jayna says:

    Oliver is an adult. Posting that remark and photo on twitter was tacky and not funny.

    But Hudson keeps selling this same old story over and over,Goldie wanted an open marriage, the she alienated them from me (we know, we know),. the kids lost interest, blah, blah, just retreading it every few years to make some money and show his bitterness. The last interview he did was unnerving to me. He has no relationship with Kate. Yet in the article he carried on about her split-up with Matt Bellamy of Muse and basically trashed his own daughter about her relationships. It was shocking and he has no clue what goes on in her life. Then at the end he starts back up that he loves her and wants a relationship. What a whacko. Odd way of going about it, trashing your daughter, inserting yourself into her private life when you don’t have a clue, and saying she’s just like Goldie in a negative way..

    This man is a bitter narcissist. I can see why Cindy Williams divorced him.

  10. Soporificat says:

    For those of use who have had to deal with people with personality disorders in our lives, Bill sounds all the alarm bells and raises all the red flags. Unfortunately, these types can seem plausible enough that some people are easily taken in by them.

    They are pretty good at manipulation, and at “looking good,” at least until you dig a little deeper.

    • Kiddo says:

      Then WHY poke the bear?

      • Soporificat says:

        Well, I don’t know anything about Oliver, but it wouldn’t shock me at all if he still has a lot of anger towards his dad that he hasn’t really dealt with. So, it might come out in unproductive ways. This is why it’s good to face your problems head on, lol! Cuz these things will always bite you in the butt eventually if you don’t deal with them.

        But this is an example of what I noticed. Oliver made the tweet and then Bill disowned both Oliver and Kate. Huh? Kate didn’t “poke the bear.” Why the sudden rage against her? Well, because she posted that she loves her step-dad. So, she deserves to be punished, in Bill’s mind. Bill’s response is to try to obliterate both of them. Even to take their name away! That last bit was one of the red flags for me, btw.

      • Kiddo says:

        I’m not invested. I just think it makes everyone look childish and petulant.

      • Kitten says:

        @Soporificat-Exactly. I think we all agree that it wasn’t the best move for Oliver to have posted the photo but that’s a reason to disown your children? Wtf?

        This is the same man who called his own daughter a “spoiled little brat” and told the press that Kate had a “wandering eye”.

        As I said yesterday, I’m not convinced that Oliver or Kate should be bound to some sort of covenant of respect for this man. After all the shit-talking he’s done to the press, maybe this is Oliver’s way of getting back at him. Sure, it’s juvenile, but children who are abandoned by a parent experience such a deep level of hurt. I think as adults, they often revert to childlike behavior when dealing with the parent who created that strained relationship. It’s hard to grow out of that and to always be the bigger person. Let’s not forget that it’s not only the abandonment, Kate and Oliver have also had to deal with the repeated betrayals when Bill has gone to the press or written a tell-all about their (non) relationship. It’s insult to injury.

      • Soporificat says:

        @Kitten — Yeah, I think some people don’t understand how difficult it is to recover from having a parent like that. It takes a tremendous amount of hard work and emotional discipline. And, it’s usually an ongoing process, where you might fall off the wagon sometimes, so to speak.

        Oliver and Kate are lucky in that they have Kurt as a loving presence. Maybe Goldie, too? Who knows. But what is clear to me is that Bill is ugly to the core.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      Agreed Soporificat, the vibe here seems to strongly suggest Bill is a deadbeat who’s angry he got called out so publicly.

    • LizzyFizzy says:

      I agree, Kitten and Soporific, that he sounds like lots of other controlling-yet-absentee dads–I’m surprised by the pro-Bill response here. I get bad vibes from Bill Hudson in his marriage to Cindy Williams, too. He wrecked her career by poisoning her relationships on Laverne and Shirley when she brought him on as a producer and she was never able to regain her success while married to him, right? She only reconciled with Penny Marshall *after* she divorced Hudson. That’s possibly 25 years of him insisting she not talk to Marshall and choose their marriage over career success.

      It sounds like he wants everybody to choose him only: still very angry at Goldie for infidelity in their marriage, angry that Kate and Oliver love Kurt Russell (wouldn’t most men be relieved that the stepfather is not a nightmare and cares for the step kids?) , and his most lasting relationship was with Cindy and she had to choose him over her hit show, so he wouldn’t be overshadowed. Lots of ‘me, me, me’ happening in his stories and nothing anyone does is ever enough to make him happy.

  11. Drummer says:

    Team No one.

    • perplexed says:


    • Mellie says:

      Right on…they just need to stop it now….I’m sure he didn’t know it was all going to blow up like this, yeah, right. I think they all (with the exception of Kurt Russell) are jerks.

      • Becks says:

        Mellie, yes they are all assholes, except for Kurt Russell. Oliver did it to get a rise out of Bill and did he ever. It was done for attention, no matter what that statement said. Now, they are backtracking, whatever.
        So I think no one is innocent here. Goldie is a nasty piece of work especially. As for the children, they are now adults with their own kids, and they are still airing their dirty laundry.
        This family seems so toxic.

  12. Toot says:

    I think Bill is just tired of all the mess that’s been said over the years and this was the final straw. Yeah it was harsh, but he’s old and finally said f-it.

    Here’s and old article from 1989 talking about the custody situation. http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20120461,00.html

    I believe Goldie made this mess.

    • LizzyFizzy says:

      I call BS on that one, Toot. That’s all Bill’s version of events, not an objective one. Even with him trying to paint her as an alienator, Goldie is nice enough to say positive things about Cindy Williams and stay out of the fray on his claims of her traveling with the kids. And he sounds controlling and diva-ish. I seriously doubt Cindy Williams would be so gushing about her bossy “Renaissance” husband now!

      • Sally says:

        That’s because Goldie is a narcissist. Every outward appearance had to be positive.

  13. anne_000 says:

    That the explanation for that very public Father’s Day post was that it was just a joke makes it sound like Oliver is a deceitful jerk.

    • Livvers says:

      You’ve never heard a friend use dark humour to deal with the conflicting emotions they feel over a narcissistic and absent parent?

      • anne_000 says:

        Did you see the actual post? What part of it showed it was “dark humour?”

        It’s like when mean-spirited people throws insults at others then when called on it, they cover themselves by saying “Oh, it was just a joke. Geez. You have no sense of humor.” As if…

    • June says:

      Theres nothing about that that made think that Oliver is deceitful or a jerk. I just saw a man dealing with the very complex feelings of abandonment, not to mention constant betrayal in interviews and a book, using humor. I feel nothing but compassion for Oliver and wish him quick healing. I actually think this “disownment” could be a good thing for closure.

      • anne_000 says:

        Where is this humor that was seen in his post?

        For him now to label it as a joke is deceitful, imo. Thus it makes him a jerk. And then for him to pretend that his father should have gotten it as a joke is also a deceitful jerk move, imo.

        If he wanted to make a statement to his father, he could have done it in private. But because he made this non-joking statement publicly, he started this new row.

        I think both sides disowning each other is a good thing in this case, because obviously the kids are OK with doing it in public.

      • June says:

        Nope, I still dont see the “deceit” or “jerk” behavior. What a strange allegation to keep tossing about. It is not a lie that Oliver has been hurt and betrayed by Bill, not just in his childhood, but very publicly in his adult years. It is also not a jerk move to express that feeling of abandonment on a day dedicated to reflecting the meaning of fatherhood.

        If anything, this may be a wake up call for crappy mums and dads out there. Treat your kids better for Gods sakes! And remember, if you spend your time very publicly spilling to the world about your kids and their nuclear family, your children may just completely eviscerate that little alter to self with one tweet.

        I still think this was good in the long run for closure. There was never anything to salvage the second Bill went and send those deplorable things about his own daughter. Bill is the sperm donor. Kurt is the father. Time to move along.

  14. Sel says:

    Bill Hudson basically called his daugther a whore in his bio, i don’t care if Oliver wants to shade this man all day everyday. Why are Oliver and Kate supposed to take the high road when Bill never did?

    • Kiddo says:

      Because dignity?

      • Kitten says:

        He said he should have thought twice before posting it, Kiddo. He obviously regrets it.

      • nina says:

        Bill wrote a really sketchy book. Oliver posted one social media jab. Oliver’s ahead in the dignity department so far. It’s social media, people overshadow all the time on it, but who secures a publisher then scarlet letters your daughter?

      • Kiddo says:

        Kitten, that’s good. I don’t hate any of these people, it just was a move that made everyone look bad. Except maybe not Kate, if she posted the pic of Kurt *before* her bro wrote that. If after, then it seems more passive aggressive in spite, rather than in love. The bio father doesn’t seem wrapped too tight. Ignoring him or responding with a pat comment like, ” I have no interaction with my bio father and he is not privy to my life in any way”, shuts off his approach to gaining fame through the kids, without baiting and engaging.

        nina, I don’t think it (dignity) is a competition with others, it’s how you act, and what you do for yourself.

    • LizzyFizzy says:

      +1 to infinity, Sel!

      Oliver and Kate have the right to tweet bitterly about a father they haven’t seen in years who is willing to sell them out like that in book form. He profited–and is still profiting, if the book is still in print–off of their fame and his ex wife’s fame and burned them to boot. Bill Hudson= a passive-aggressive Taylor Swift song about exes in middle-aged man form.

    • Courtney says:


  15. Gabriella says:

    They say that in a relationship with one’s parents, one will always be a child. It is always going to be up to the parent to be the bigger person.

    • Soporificat says:

      Yep. The end. Really, what more is there to say? That is the way a decent parent behaves.

    • darkdove says:

      They are all adults, if his father can’t be the bigger person Oliver should be it our parents are not perfect they are flawed humans and they make mistakes too we can’t expect them to be the bigger person all the time.

    • Kitten says:

      I wish I had seen your comment first, Gabriella. I posted something similar above. Both my parents grew up in abusive households and my mother is now estranged from her mother. Her dad died of alcoholism before I was born.

      My mom always says that we never really escape our childhood. We never fully get over the damage that is caused during those formative years.

      As someone who grew up with amazing parents, I really empathize with Oliver and Kate. Luckily, they had a caring mother and a great paternal influence with Kurt. I think it’s convenient for people to say “be the bigger person” while ignoring the reality that it’s not always that easy.

      At least Oliver admitted that he should have thought twice before posting that. Don’t hold your breath while waiting for Bill Hudson to issue an apology.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


      Loving parents say all the time that no matter how old their child gets they’re still their baby. Considering there are parents dealing with children with severe addiction issues or other problems without writing bios or declaring them dead I’m gonna need him to simmer don and at least be a good a father by quietly accepting his children’s pain.

    • Courtney says:


  16. Talie says:

    I thought Oliver’s post was just very tactless. Sorry. I know the father’s response was crappy, but this has been years of abuse being hurled by all parties. It’s gross and none of them look good.

    • Chichi says:

      What abuse have the kids, particularly Oliver, thrown at Bill “over the years”? Even Goldie no longer talks bout him. Katie has once or twice said she didnt have a relationship with him, which is a fact not a dig. He on the other hand writes a book on it and gives interviews about them all in the last five years. He appears to revell in his own daughters breakups. Even with this fathers day thing, he responds to a simple post with a full interview to a tabloid famous for PAYING for these types of interviews. Its pretty clear that however imperfect Oliver and Kate may be, Bill Hudson is a deeply narcisistic man.

      • Courtney says:


      • Talie says:

        Girl, bye. I’ve read enough interview from all of them where they are constantly trashing each other. Kate’s first big Vanity Fair cover was all about it.

      • Kitten says:

        @Talie- Yeah no. First of all she only made two small comments about BH in that VF interview:

        “He doesn’t know me from a hole in the wall. But I don’t care. I have a dad [Russell]. The bottom line is, you call your kids on their f—— birthday. I’m glad I had a dad who was there on my birthday.”

        “Kurt is my dad. Kurt is a savior who came into my life. [Bill] was sort of in and out of our lives. I don’t hate him for it. I guess what I feel is frustration and curiosity — like, what was it about me he didn’t want to know?”

        Please don’t equate the emotional comments Kate made about the father who abandoned her with the malicious tirades of Bill Hudson.

  17. Merritt says:

    What Oliver did was immature but Bill Hudson’s response was far more inappropriate. I don’t think Kate did anything terrible. She posted a picture of herself and Kurt, the man she considers to be her dad. Those feelings have been around for a long time, after all Russell is a part of the name for one of her children.

    • Dawn says:

      Throughout this whole mess I’ve always wondered what Kurt’s eldest son thinks of all of this? Was he pushed out of his father’s life by Goldie and her kids? After all they lived with him while Boston lived with his mother. He has always kept his thoughts to himself and I think both Oliver and Kate should learn to do the same thing.

    • nina says:

      Exactly- Oliver’s comment was kinda dumb but bills response is just bananas.

  18. Toot says:

    Also, they don’t like the guy and love Kurt so much, why didn’t they go with Russell as their stage last name or even Hawn?

    • Nittfox says:

      It’s their name too, and they don’t owe him a thing for it. I’m estranged from my family for a lot of reasons, but this last name that I have is mine. I’ve built my career on it, no thanks to my family. And I’m sure that Oliver and Kate have too. If they had wanted to “ride coattails”, they would have been able to use more famous names like Hawn or Russell. Bill Hudson is delusional if he thinks that people associate the name Hudson with him.

      • Original T.C. says:

        Let’s face it, Kate Hudson built her career on her Mom’s reputation. She got her foot in the door my being Goldie Hawn’s daughter regardless of her last name. Acting and music are the two fields where it is completely common for people to change either their first or last names. Kate grew up among Hollywood elite she knew that probably by age 8. She could have changed her last name when she started acting before her breakout role. I had assumed Hudson was a stage name because I had no idea that Kurt Russell wasn’t her father.

        I think everyone in this whole family has issues. How can a 38 year old man not know that a post about abandonment was not going to bring a sheeet storm. Or a 36 year old woman putting up a post of her Step Dad on Father’s Day not going to cause hurt in her bio Dad. Can’t she make a phone call? Skype? Go see her StepDad in person? Both Kate and Oliver knew what they were doing putting up those posts as did Bill with his tabloid interview. Seriously deal with your family issues off-line. Bad form on everyone’s part in this situation. No innocent party.

      • Courtney says:

        Thank you. He doesn’t own the last name Hudson.

  19. FingerBinger says:

    Oliver wanted attention from his biological father and he got it.

  20. qtpi says:

    I don’t think he would bother responding if he had never cared or pursued a relationship with them.

    I also don’t get why they use his last name. They could have switched years ago if they hate him so much. I don’t like my father in law and gag every once in a while when I write my signature.

    • Brittney B says:

      I still use my dad’s last name, but it doesn’t remind me of him or his side of the family at all. It just fits very well with my last name, and my full name has become a part of my identity (as a writer and a person). It’s mine now. That’s probably how they feel too.

  21. perplexed says:

    I don’t expect Oliver to like or be friendly with his father, but I would suggest avoiding airing this kind of stuff on social media because personally I would not want to deal with the media asking me questions in my next interview about an open wound. Nor would I want all of my mother’s business splashed all over next week’s edition of The National Enquirer.

    Other celebrities have talked about their strained relationships with their parents (his sister Kate, Heather Graham, etc), so I don’t necessarily think that’s unusual or wrong, but usually whatever they have to say sounds a little less charged (you don’t come away thinking “Shots Fired!”) and wouldn’t invite that much scrutiny from the press.

  22. Brittney B says:

    He and Jon Voight should go have a pity party somewhere far away. They can validate each other’s egos instead of using the press…

  23. Jayna says:

    He never stops. He regurgitates the same old thing over the years. But only six months ago out of the blue he decides to give an interview about Kate being unlucky in love and vomiting the same old stuff but this time analyzing his own daughter and her failed relationships that he has had zero relationship with her entire grown life. He does this all the time, selling stories for a buck. Talk about using your child. But if he wanted a relationship with his estranged daughter, why would he pull stuff like this, dissing her and discussing things he knows nothing about and then ending it with the I miss my wonderful little girl, she’s amazing, I regret everything? It’s all so self-serving to keep doing this publically like he pulls with the same interviews for what seems like decades. Oliver just gave him another in to do it again.

    December 2014

    • LizzyFizzy says:

      + 1, Jayna! Bill’s the one who started this—Oliver could’ve called him out for much, much worse.

  24. Tee says:

    Why are people defending a guy who slut shames his own daughter? Some awfully thoughtless comments above. This guy is not a nice person.

    • Kitten says:

      What he said was the definition of slut-shaming. If my father ever said that about me to a tabloid rag no less, I would never speak to him again.
      Luckily for Kate, she’s already severed all ties.

    • Sarre says:

      Agreed! Obviously these commenters have never dealt with parental abandonment. I am 45 years old and I still have pain from my father choosing to be out of our lives. If Oliver wants to make a dumb joke, he has the right to! Abandonment is not on the forefront of my mind everyday but come on ,father’s day when everyone else gets to celebrate their wonderful father’s, if someone wants to make a joke at the expense of their sperm donor,,so be it! Trust me that”father” hurt those kids a lot more than that instagram post hurt him!

    • Getreal says:

      Totally. Unless you had a parent abandon you and the try this narcissistic guilt and shame routine, you simply don’t know. My bio dad is very similar to Bill, my teenage pain was unreal. The only way to survive is to distance yourself. TRUST that Oliver’s pain growing up was 10000x worse than Bill’s when he read that comment.

  25. funcakes says:

    Anger,bitterness, resentment ,accusations of abandonment and hate…..sounds like a real family to me.

  26. Usually only a reader says:

    First, I don’t think it can be said that Bill Hudson abandoned his children. He left Hawn when Kate was a todler, but there are photographs of him with much older Kate, also photographs of Kate and Oliver with Bill’s younger children. So he had contact with them even after the divorce. It seems totally plausible to me that he lost the contact slowly due to Goldie’s actions.

    Second, in my opinion his book does not “trash” Kate. The text in book seems reasonable, although there are stories where Kate is not an angel. “Spoiled brat” is from interviews at the time, and even then I wasn’t convinced it was a direct quote from him, rather something the writer would add to a title.

    Third: who actually benefits from this publicity? Bill Hudson, a supposedly retired producer whose book has been in discount box for a few years by now, giving his tired interviews (how much does DM pay?) or Oliver Hudson, a TV actor known because of his family, or Kate Hudson, a former movie star, lately selling clothes and desperately showing off her body?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a nice bunch of papped pics of Kate soon. Better yet, a story of reconciliation between father and daughter! Well, obviously I know nothing. Maybe these celebs actually are so stupid that they use social media for family fights. Wouldn’t surprise me either.

    • Chichi says:

      The amount of fiction being pedalled byhis apologists is mind numbing. Bill HAS told the story of how he lost touch with them (to a tabloid of course, this man knows how to catch a check). His own account is that they divorced but he maintained contact with the kids. There were no issues with visitatio until when Kate.was around 13 (all his tabloid stories are told.with Kate.as.the reference, you would be forgiven for thinking he has only one kid but then.tabloids aint paying.to hear about Oliver – lucky Oliver). Anyway, he says that around that time he went on tour and didnt speak to them for months. When he came back the kids were leaning heavily on Kurt, and he didnt want to fight.so he let them be. Its a ridiculously self serving account but even his propaganda acknowledges that he left at a pivotal time and lacked the stability to parent correctly. That masterpiece is but a google search away.

      Also, Bill has been trading on that family of years. I’m pretty sure he is paid for the scummy interviews and it helps keep his name alive. He is afterall still in showbiz. Oliver and Kate are already attached to showbiz royalty, attention is merely a public family dinner away. Kate dates rockers, that alone will send the paps her way. But poor Bill, the only time he sees his name in print is when he says a scuzzy things about Kate or Goldie. This silly tantrum isnt the last we hear from Bill, I expect he will be spilling again ………to the highest bidder ofcourse. Get your check books ready Enquirer, TMZ and Star, ol Bill needs an American outlet to spew his venom now.

      • Courtney says:

        I read something similar, the Daily Mail interview from 2014? He basically said he was touring for months, had a new family, and didn’t want to deal with Goldie anymore.

  27. Elle says:

    Yeah right. They didnt care. It was just a joke – that is why Oliver Hudson put out that cry for help message on father’s day – cause he doesnt care. Uh-huh…

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      He’s human. He’s getting dragged through tabloids by a Dad who never showed up for him, has only sought self profit and self promotion from his relationship with his children. Oliver and Kate have a right to bite back in whatever way they choose.

  28. Getreal says:

    There are two camps here: people who had normal, healthy childhoods with good dads and people who were fathered by cruel, attention seeking narcissists.

    If your dad was a good person, who made some mistakes but raised you well then you can be a Bill apologist. If your dad was a deadbeat narcissist, you know why Oliver posted that photo.. It hurts beyond words when your dad stops coming around or calling (BELIVE IT OR NOT, THIS HAPPENS.) they can blame it on the mom (how convenient) or work or the courts or the step dad. But you never get over a bio parent who STOPS caring about you. Add to that if he sells you out to tabloids, sexually shames your mom and sister and basically calls you a nobody.. Bill deserves any snide remarks his kids have for hm.

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      + a million.

      Estranged child of a narcissistic alcoholic Dad here. The last time I heard from him was around 9/11 – he supposedly wanted to make sure I was ok (I had moved away from NYC six months prior) – ok maybe on some little level he did, but mostly he probably would have loved to be the dad of a news story, was my immediate honest to God thought. Messed up but when you’ve had nothing but rejection and abuse from a parent you don’t suddenly grow unconditional love out of thin air. Have always felt this way in my adult life, he doesn’t give a sh*t, just like Mr. Hudson. Those names are their names, wth are they supposed to do, adopt new names as grown adults? What a f’ing douche wad.

      On a superficial note I’ve always found Oliver the hawt Hudson, don’t know why his sister gets all the buzz.

      • LizzyFizzy says:

        + 1. Haven’t seen my dad in 15 years–the last time was when I turned 18. My mom and I had to go to court because my child support ended at 18, but before I’d finished high school. Everyone told her it was a slam-dunk to extend child support to graduation. Nope. He won by getting on the stand and talking about what a burden I was on his family (the stepchildren from his third marriage; I’m his oldest child) and how my mother had alienated me. All lies. We’d kept the same phone # for my entire childhood! He was the one who disappeared for months or years, missed birthdays and Christmas, etc. He didn’t even speak to me that day in court, but of course it’s my mom’s fault? She never stopped me from seeing him, but by the time I was a teen, I didn’t really feel comfortable around this virtual stranger with a revolving door of wives and girlfriends. The kind of stranger who leaves–unwrapped, mind you–duplicate Barbies in grocery bags on your front porch for your birthday when you’re a kid and never actually sees you on a ‘good’ year. So yeah, I relate to Kate and Oliver. I’m sure he’d be selling stories about me to the DM if I was famous, honestly.

    • Kiddo says:

      There’s a third camp, it’s called neutral.

    • Courtney says:

      +2 million

  29. Boohoo says:

    Oliver should thank Bill for giving him his handsome looks.