Meryl Streep defends ‘we’re all African’ comments: Inclusion ‘is important to me’

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This is like an itch I have to scratch, because I can’t get it out of my head and I just have to say it: “I gave an award to a Tunisian” is the new “I have a black friend.” Wait for it! As we all know by now, Meryl Streep, African, declared her allegiance to the mother continent in Berlin. Meryl was appointed as president of this year’s Berlinale jury, and during the press conference for the jury, Meryl was asked some questions about the all-white jury and whether she, personally, would understand the viewpoints of artists and directors from Africa and the Middle East. At first, Meryl’s answers to those questions came off as offensively dismissive, as we thought she just huffed, “We’re all Africans, really.” The AP issued a correction/clarification a week later – go here to read. There was some added context in Meryl’s answer, and while I still think she could have come up with a better answer, with the clarification Meryl did not sound AS bad and dismissive.

So, instead of dealing with this controversy in real time during the Berlinale, Meryl waited until the festival was over to write an essay about how she’s totally not a blithe, oblivious African woman dismissive of calls for increased diversity. And she’s totally not racist because she gave an award to a Tunisian!!! Here’s African Meryl Streep’s HuffPo essay:

Something wonderful happened at the Berlin Film Festival this past weekend, something about which American audiences may be unaware or indifferent. In Fire At Sea, which won the top prize, Gianfranco Rosi takes a hard look at the overloaded boats filled with despairing, half-dead immigrants from Africa who land on the tiny Italian island of Lampedusa en route to Europe. Those who are not drowned at sea encounter the overwhelmed and dedicated people of the island, whose simple actions are evidence of the best in human nature, where one part of the human family helps another.

The Silver Bear for Best First Film went to a Tunisian, Mohamed Ben Attia, whose film Heditells the story of a diffident but dutiful second son, who runs away from a proscribed future into the complicated present. Set in this Islamic North African nation so recently tested by bombings of its museum and tourist sites, it brings the big issues of irreconcilable differences tenderly down to a human level. Another Silver Bear went to the 8.5 hour A Lullaby to the Sorrowful Mystery, Lav Diaz’s saga of the Philippine people’s journey to independence from their colonial past, and the Cinematography Award went to Crosscurrent, a brilliant, elegiac film from China, directed by Yang Chao.

The lede was buried in the story of the Berlin festival, the largest in the world. These stories of people from China, Somalia, Mali, Sudan, and Tunisia — testaments to the impact, importance and diversity of global cinema — have been smothered in the U.S. by the volume of attention given to five words of mine at an opening press conference, which is too bad.

The German director of the Berlin festival convened his jury, of which I was president, and this one consisted of Polish, Italian, French, British, German and American people. As with any artistic jury, even as president, I had no input into who would serve with me.

Contrary to distorted reporting, no one at that press conference addressed a question to me about the racial makeup of the jury. I did not “defend” the “all-white jury,” nor would I, if I had been asked to do so. Inclusion — of races, genders, ethnicities and religions — is important to me, as I stated at the outset of the press conference.

In a longwinded answer to a different question asked of me by an Egyptian reporter concerning the film from Tunisia, Arab/African culture, and my familiarity with Arab films specifically, I said I had seen and loved Theeb, and Timbuktu, but admitted, “I don’t know very much about, honestly, the Middle East, …and yet I’ve played a lot of different people from a lot of different cultures. And the thing I notice is that we’re all — I mean there is a core of humanity that travels right through every culture, and after all, we’re all from Africa originally, you know? We’re all Berliners, we’re all Africans, really.”

I was not minimizing difference, but emphasizing the invisible connection empathy enables, a thing so central to the fact of being human, and what art can do: convey another person’s experience. To be in Berlin is to see proof that walls don’t work.

I do defend all the choices the jury made. This is work we took very seriously. I hope the press will shower Yang Chao, Lav Diaz, Mohamed Ben Attia, Gianfranco Rosi and the other artists we honored with as much energetic attention as that directed at my misconstrued remarks. Their work is newsworthy, and deserves celebration. It reflects a diversity of place, race, viewpoint and humanity that should not be invisible in America.

[From HuffPo]

It sounds like the awards were given to racially, ethnically and religiously diverse filmmakers, so good for the (all-white) jury. But even with Meryl restating her original comment, there’s still something sticking in my craw. Like, I get that Meryl wasn’t asked specifically about the all-white jury – something she genuinely did not choose – but there was an implicit racial aspect in the journalist’s question, about whether a white American woman would be able to empathize with the stories being told in Arab and African films. And of course there was a simple answer: of course Meryl would be able to empathize and understand, because the human experience is universal. But Meryl heard the racial implication in the question, which is why she went to “we’re all Africans, really,” which will always be a boneheaded deflection away from a legitimate conversation about diversity. Which is why she’s still Meryl Streep, African.

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  1. QQ says:

    Meryl Streep, African will NEVER get old to me… ever this is possibly better than Reese Witherspoon American Citizen

    • Anna says:

      Has anyone edited her into that picture of Richard Dawkins wearing the “were all Africans” shirt yet? Cause that would be hilarious.

      This kind of reminds me of when white people from Africa living in the states call themselves “African-American”. Or when Charlize went around being the first “African woman to win an Oscar”. She technically is, but I’m pretty sure that title was intended for a black person when they said “African”.

      • yael says:

        I’m not sure I understand this. If you’re born and raised in an African country, are you not African, regardless of skin colour? How is it different from, say, someone of Asian descent who is born and raised in Greece calling him/herself Greek?

        If I’m missing something, I would love to have it explained :).

      • LAK says:

        WTH????!!!

        Judging by your comment, you don’t know that Charlize is Afrikaan. If *Afrikaans aren’t african on the basis that they are white, then I guess that means all the other non black Africans aren’t african too.

        *do you know what an Afrikaan is?

      • Breakfast Margaritas says:

        Yeah I think it’s not widely known that “African-American” Is a socio-political ethnic identifier for a very specific group of people – Black Americans with African ancestry via the slave trade. This was adopted in the early 70’s as a form of self-identification as opposed to being called the Nword or Negro or being referenced by skin tone. In that sense, while Charlize Theron is definitely a South African who now holds American citizenship, she is not African-American. Neither is Idris Elba, Rihanna,Supermodel Iman, Chewitel Edgiofor, Naomi Campbell or Gugu Mbatha Raw.

        African-American is an ethnicity for the descendants of a specific group of people, but Charlize Theron is one hot South African.

      • yael says:

        @BREAKFAST MARGARITAS: Thanks for explaining. I can understand, then, why using “African-American” is incorrect. But would it still be considered incorrect to refer to Charlize as African?

      • Carol says:

        @yael Maybe South African? That might be a better identifier? Good question though.

      • LAK says:

        Yael: as an African, I can tell you that Charlize is very much an African. She comes from a tribe of Dutch descent/ French Huguenots descent white Europeans who settled in Africa in the 18th Century called Afrikaans.

        To discount Afrikaans as Africans would be similar to discounting all Europeans settlers (and enslaved Black people) from 18th century onwards as Americans. Ditto migrants.

        BTW, not all white South Africans are Afrikaans. Cape South Africans tend to be descended from Britain.

        The 2 groups are distinct from each other, and speak different languages. The Cape South Africans speak English whilst the Afrikaans have their own language.

        Since America has decided to be pedantic about it’s ethno-composition, it’s more accurate to say that Charlize is Afrikaans American because as far as Africa is concerned, there is no such thing as an African. The countries are artificial constructs enforced by colonialism filled with people who are completely distinct from each other in a similar way to former Yugoslavia. As distinct as French and Norwegians are distinct. Not just culturally, but also physically.

      • Anna says:

        Sorry for the misunderstanding, my post wasn’t about her not being African it was about when people would say “no Black (or African-American) man or woman has won an Oscar is this many years” and people would say well “Charlize Theron won” and would go on to say she’s an African woman who won when really people were talking about someone Black wining.

        Just so everyone knows, I know what and African American is and the difference between being AA and Black.

    • Breakfast Margaritas says:

      +11111

      I chuckle every time I see it, although I do respect Meryl’ s acting abilities.

    • Breakfast Margaritas says:

      Lak thanks for the info on the ethnic distinctions of Africans with European ancestry in South Africa. I agree that Charlize is South African and part of the Afrikaans speaking culture. However, in America, there are no official documents that I can think of which require Charlize Theron to identify herself as Afrikaans American. Most documents in America that specify race such as drivers licenses, birth certificates, school registration, health records list a person as either Black, White, Hispanic or Other. Even the US Census has these same categories and Charlize Theron would be considered white person of European ancestry although she grew up in south Africa. Just the same as John Travolta, Liza Minnelli, Frank Sinatra, and Leo DiCaprio are considered white on official documents in America but also part of the Italian-American culture informally. I don’t mean to be pedantic but the misconception surrounding Charlize Theron being African-American, while initially cute, has been around for much too long.

    • lisa says:

      yeah i was hoping they would edit the title

      she will always be meryl streep, african to me

  2. kri says:

    Is this the line she is going to use at airport security now? “What is your name and where are you from, ma’am”? I am Meryl Streep, African! Out of may way, TSA!!” She totally left skids on her underwear with this one.

  3. LAK says:

    Her essay gives that ‘I have black friends’ feeling too.

    Something about it makes me think that after the controversy of the opening day conference, the jury were instructed to give awards to only the ethnic film makers so the all white jury could pat themselves on the back for job well done.

    That’s not so say those films aren’t any good, but the subject matter feels PC to me, as well as the awards feeling tainted by the need to prove she isn’t racist.

    • Lizzie McGuire says:

      She’s Meryl Streep, I know she’s tight with most of the Academy members because she gets nominated for all of her films (good & bad) so I’m sure she heard about the #OscarsSoWhite controversy. Even if she didn’t hear it from them, it’s all over the news something you can’t miss. So someone with her status should’ve been prepared for any kind of questions, & she went with the “we’re all Africans really”.

  4. Amelia says:

    Does she not have a publicist?
    It’s a good thing she’s not nominated for anything this awards season, otherwise her PR team probably would have placed her under house arrest by now.
    Just STOP TALKING MERYL.
    First the “I’m an equalist” rubbish, now this.

  5. Margo S. says:

    Lol at “Meryl Streep, African.”

  6. samson says:

    let it go

  7. Algernon says:

    She was clearly joking. Her original answer about the jury was “I didn’t get to pick my fellow jurors,” and her response to the question of empathy was like “I’ve played all kinds of people, so I think I can empathize because I’m used to putting myself in other people’s shoes.” And then she made a very clear joke about JFK’s “ich ein berliner” speech, saying “We’re all Berliners. We’re all Africans.” She was obviously *joking.*

    What I learned from this is that no one remembers JFK’s speech.

    • Crumpet says:

      This was my point as well, but it did not meet with approval. Thank you for saying it better than I did.

  8. Rade says:

    I’m half Arab (Egyptian) and half Nigerian and I’ve got to point out that my relatives actually in Egypt, and most Arabs generally consider themselves white. In fact, most Arabs get super offended being called black or poc. And the anti black racism myself and the other part of my family receives from some Arabs is quite frightening. Just thought I’d mention it as an anecdote because it is an interesting point, I think, about self perception/self labelling.

    • Breakfast Margaritas says:

      I’m just curious and mean no disrespect but how can a nation full of brown and black people situated on the continent of Africa be white? If that is the case, there should be no complaints about the casting of Gods of Egypt…

      • FingerBinger says:

        It’s just not just Egypt. Almost all arabs no matter how dark they are do not consider themselves black or people of color.

    • Farhi says:

      I grew up in the USSR, USSR had close relationships with many Asian and African countries (including Egypt). The way we were taught was that there were 3 races – Caucasian, Monoloid and Negorid.
      Anyone who was not Mongoloid or Negorid was Caucasian/white. That meant that Indians, Arabs, Afgans etc. were white. This is how it is viewed in Russia still and many Eastern European countries.

      The USSR itself had many ethnicities, some Caucasian and some Mongoloid. with many different skin tones, some pretty dark but not across the whole ethnicity. Some Russians, Ukrainians, Azeri, Jews, Tatars have rather dark skin. They are all considered white but are identified by their ethnicity.

      “Black” is actually a derogatory term used to identify some white Central Asian and Caucasian (as in region not the race) ethnicities with darker shades of skin.

      This is a very different approach than in UK and US and can lead to a lot of confusion.

    • Sixer says:

      The Hispanic community in the UK is so small that there isn’t even a classification for them on the census form. They have to describe themselves as ‘other’! I’d hazard a pretty good guess that in the minds of most Britons, their compatriots who are Hispanic/Latin, are white. Not sure how they would self-identity since I don’t know any Latino Britons.

    • arbelia says:

      Yep there’s definitely a Different approach in Europe We don’t use the term “race” which is considered as inacurrate., but we talk about ethnicities /ethnic minorities. It’s somewhat confusing sometimes to see that “Latinos” are considered as a different “race” than the “white” one. In Continental Europe i dont think anyone would consider than Hispanics and more generally citizens from Southern europe as “non-white”. In France , there are multiple ethnies for , yet nobody woud consider than dark-skinned french from southern regions are not “white”.
      Btw, North African “Arabs” don’t see themselves as non white people, but actually those so called “Arabs” are actually from berber descent not really in Egypt but they’r the vast majority in the other countries of the area). So they are not even arab, but arabized berbers, and many of them have light skin/ light or hazel eyes, and the olive skinned ones have fairer skin-tones than people from the Middle-east.
      If you google Lalla Salma , for exemple, the wife of the king of Marocco, who’s from a region with very strong berber presence, you’ll see that sh’e a very pale skinned red-haired woman.

      • Gina says:

        @Farhi

        Yes, that definition is in very old and very dusty schoolbooks. Nevertheless, despite science and anthropology’s insistence that race does not exist and that it is but a social construct – that notion of the three groups, still exist.

        Basically ‘white,’ European descended Anglo people in the west seem to get to decide who’s ‘white,’ in contemporary society, which is similar to what they did 200-300 years ago with the ‘one drop rule,’ which still has a hold.

        What’s even more ridiculous, is that depending on whatever social and cultural perceptions and conflicts, they may change on a dime. It’s why in the 80s and 90s you had fierce opposition from those in the west or ‘white,’ to consider that ancient civilizations like Egypt, may have been sub-saharan African in early origins. Insisting that Egypt’s people who are on the continent of Africa, were whites. While after 9/11 everyone in the Middle East was suddenly magically NON-white.

        BOTTOMline, ‘race,’ doesn’t exist and the world’s people are an amalgamation of what came before.

        If the dad on Modern Family and Bill Hader can be part sub Saharan African, I’m pretty sure ancient civilizations on the continent of Africa were pretty much obviously are.

      • Goodnight says:

        @Gina

        Uh, anthropology does not insist there is no race. There is cultural anthropology (where some might say that race is a social construct but definitely not all) and physical anthropology and I can assure you in physical anthropology race is definitely recognised – and when looking at someone’s skeletal remains they DO fall under the classification of negroid, mongoloid and caucasian to this day, It’s extremely hard to identify race by skeletal remains but it’s an extremely important (if imprecise) way of giving an identity to an unknown body.

      • Lucrezia says:

        69% of physical anthropologists DISAGREE with the statement: “There are biological races in the species Homo sapiens.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28human_categorization%29#U.S._anthropology

        How can they simultaneously disagree that race exists and be so accurate at identifying race from a skeleton? Easy. There is a big difference between saying “blacks and whites are different races”, and saying “this skeleton belonged to a person who was probably labelled black by our culture”.

        Imagine a world where people were classified into 3 races: blonde, brunette and redheads. It works just as well as the existing big 3 races. It clusters in different geological areas. It’s measurable. It’s genetic (in a much simpler fashion than skull shape). It can be identified from remains, even skeletons if they can get a DNA sample. We have stereotypes about different hair-races and they are treated differently by society.

        If you were teleported into that world, you’d think they were crazy for arguing that blondes and brunettes are different races, right?

        Now, try to explain how that’s totally different than looking at skull shape and arguing that whites and blacks are different races …

    • Lucrezia says:

      Here in Australia, the census hasn’t asked about race since 1981. The question itself was deemed racist. Instead, they ask social and cultural questions: country of birth, country of birth of parents, religion, main language spoken at home, proficiency in English.

      Which I guess is a pretty accurate reflection of how Australia sees race. If we’re being PC we tend to talk about ethnicity fairly specifically, not using broad racial or linguistic categories: Aboriginal, not black; Irish, not white; Iraqi not Arabic.

      At primary school, race was initially defined as the big 3 that Farhi mentioned, but then we immediately discussed the other races that don’t really fit into those categories (Aboriginal, Polynesian, American Indian etc., etc) and quickly veered into ethnicity. Which made sense given the multicultural mix at my school. My year included 3 Aboriginal kids (one of whom could’ve passed for white), a Maori, an Afrikaner (white), another white South African who was not Afrikaner, a black African … and the guy who had the darkest skin-tone had an Indian-sounding name (Chandana) and was actually born in Sweden. Quite clearly, the big 3 were not enough to capture the diversity present in our classroom, let alone the rest of the world.

  9. Nicole says:

    Her generation tends to make those blunders because that was a progressive stance when they came of age. We had to talk my mom out of saying “there’s a little coal in everybody’s hearth”. She genuinely thought she was saying something neutral. I imagine that at some point, you just stop upgrading your racism software… I mean, most people I know don’t think they’re racist but are completely in denial about white privilege. Change is gradual in populations… in individuals, sometimes it takes public outcry to get people to change their tunes.

  10. Carol says:

    I love Meryl Streep…as an actress. Tops in her field. But whenever she talks about the women’s movement, feminism, racism or other such hot topics, I just cringe. I just wish she would stop talking or at least take some media training. EEK!

  11. mialouise says:

    Christ, she was making a joke about Ich bich ein Berliner!

    • Kat says:

      Thank you. The SJWs on this site who clearly are ignorant to history, context, etc are exhausting.

    • Gina says:

      @kat , @mialouise

      Um, don’t take this the wrong way…but not commenting on her lame alluding to Kennedy’s ‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ doesn’t mean people are ignorant of it.

      Where are you getting that?

      Her comment being a play on that, doesn’t magically make her ‘We’re all Africans,’ comment any less tone deaf.

      The two statements aren’t exactly analagous to each other beyond surface phrasing, unless Kennedy was trying to dismiss historically excluded minorities too. He wasn’t.

      • Goodnight says:

        Yeah, I agree. I completely understand the context of ‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ but this was still a boneheaded thing to say and she’s still doubling down on it rather than saying ‘hey guys, it was just a reference to ‘ein Berliner’, so that would suggests that, reference or not, she believes it.

  12. serena says:

    Why won’t she shut up?

  13. Lea says:

    As for the “we’re all Africans”comment, I heard it many times, coming from people of different races, color, nationalities, religion and social status, as an humanist anti-racist logic. I don’t get certain reactions against Meryl. What she meant was pretty clear from the beginning: empathy, universal brotherhood, she defines herself as a Humanist. Come on.

    • anon33 says:

      Because that’s not what “humanism” is, for one.

      • Lea says:

        By what I read about M. Streep, I think she means humanist as in the definition:
        any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.” and not other definition of humanism as in philosophy.

  14. Dorothy#1 says:

    Maybe meryl can play Tina Turner in a movie.

  15. Abbess Tansy says:

    Go with God Meryl, just go with God.