DM: Does Duchess Kate clutch her crotch to avoid shaking hands?

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Everyone – every single person – has little nervous tics and self-soothing mechanisms for when they’re bored/uncomfortable/nervous. Mine include: biting my lips, pursing my lips, playing with my hair, putting my hands on my hips, bouncing my leg and playing with my nails. I’m basically really lucky that I work at home because I’m sure my habits would drive coworkers up the wall. Considering the Duchess of Cambridge is a public figure and has been for more than six years, we’ve become pretty familiar with her nervous tics too. She touches her hair, she bares her teeth, she purses her lips, and in one of her most famous self-soothing habits, she clutches her crotch. She usually is carrying a clutch purse, but even when she’s not, her hands still instinctively go to her crotch, almost as if she’s patting down her lady parts. Well, for some reason, the Daily Mail decided to write a story about WHY Kate does this, and they actually spoke to “experts” about it. What the experts say is… bewildering.

She’s rarely seen on an official engagement without a small box clutch, often carried in front of her with both hands, and now etiquette experts have revealed that the Duchess of Cambridge’s favoured handbag is down to more than just a fashionable choice. Recently, the founder of Beaumont Etiquette Myka Meier told Good Housekeeping that the way the Duchess ‘holds her bag in front of her in both hands when shaking hands might be awkward’.

But now MailOnline’s expert in all things mannerly William Hanson says that the Kate is going about things the wrong way by using her handbag as a shield.

‘The Duchess of Cambridge may well prefer not to shake hands with certain people – but there are other ways to achieve this, as used by The Queen and other members of the royal family, than opting for a clutch over a bag with a strap,’ he told FEMAIL. ‘It is protocol that you do not extend your hand to any member of the royal family (blood royal or those who have married in to the family) unless their hand extends first. With more experience, The Duchess of Cambridge will soon realise that she needn’t be too nice, extend and shake hands with everyone. A courteous smile at those whom she does not have time to shake hands will suffice.’

He suggests Kate should look to her father-in-law or her husband’s grandfather for inspiration on how to carry herself.

‘Male royalty, such as The Duke of Edinburgh, often walk down line-ups with their hands clasped behind their backs, which although technically not correct, they can get away with due to their elevated position,’ he said. ‘Another good way to avoid unwanted hands.’

However, Grant Harrold a former butler to Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, believes that Kate has adopted her signature pose as it’s an elegant posture, rather than out of any desire to avoid handshakes.

‘The Duchess of Cambridge is often seen adapting a pose with her hands clasped in front of her with or without a clutch bag,’ he explained. ‘This gesture is adapted by confident people and it is popular with presidents, government minsters and heads of state when they are standing in public. I personally believe she has adopted this with a clutch bag for her official engagements, however she has also been seen with other handbags over the shoulder or arm at informal engagements. Technically the Duchess is setting a new trend for future generations of Royals and fashion followers alike. Royals do indeed set trends as history shows: The bottom button of the Gentleman’s waistcoat left undone thanks to King Edward VII. History states he accidentally left it undone but it became the fashionable thing to do, even into the 21st Century. The Late Diana, Princess of Wales also set trends with her wonderful dress-code with beautifully coordinated handbags and shoes….the Duchess is a wonderful example of what I teach people with regards to posture as not only does she do it with elegance but her flawless posture is something we should all aspire to.’

[From The Daily Mail]

First of all, Kate has awful posture. I suspect that she’s trying to mimic the aristocratic “slouch” favored by true aristos like Isabella Gough-Calthorpe and Jecca Craig (although Isabella seems to have great posture in the photos I’ve seen). In the end, Kate’s slouch just looks hunched and uncomfortable. As for the analysis of Kate’s ulterior motives for carrying a clutch bag and how this is all some high-level positioning for handshakes… possibly, but I doubt it. I think it’s more like what I said – it’s her nervous tic, her self-soothing mechanism. Psychologically, it’s interesting that she radiates the vibe of “protect the biscuit,” but I suspect Kate also thinks the stance is girlish and makes her appear coy and child-like. Also: it would be hilarious if Kate tried to walk around with her hands behind her back like Prince Philip. Can you imagine??

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  1. Sarah says:

    I wonder what she carries in her clutch? Cigarettes? Lipstick? William’s balls?

  2. SusanneToo says:

    She’s practicing in case she meets the Pu$$yGrabber-in-Chief.

    • frisbee says:

      Snort! And wouldn’t it be great if he goes for it (great bragging rights guys! And yes I do believe he’s that much of a s*It) and a little cannon appears out of the top of said clutch bag and shoots him in the crotch *sigh*

  3. original kay says:

    This is where I am definitely a Kate apologist.

    Absolutely everything she does is picked apart. I could not stand it.

    • TwistBarbie says:

      Agreed. And how is standing with her hands clasped in front of her “clutching her crotch”? Her hands have to go somewhere when she’s just standing there. I suppose she could leave them hanging at her sides, but no doubt someone would read too much into that too.

      • doofus says:

        I think it’s because she always carries a “clutch”.

        so, she’s “clutching” her crotch. just a silly pun.

      • Megan says:

        The DM is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel for gossip. Other royal ladies hold their clutch the same way, but no one cares because there are far more interesting things to write about them, like what charity they were visiting does or why the British industry they were promoting is important.

        Kate is band aids and clutches because there isn’t anything else to say.

      • Hazel says:

        Twistbarbie: but she doesn’t just stand that way, she walks that way: clutch in both hands, in front, at crotch level. And that is odd; that is not something she did during her royal GF days, either. During that time she walked like a normal person, with her arms at her side.

      • cindyp says:

        Totally disagree. Yes, we criticize her but with good reason. She is the the future Queen Consort. People expect professionalism & engagement from her. Yes, she has nervous habits as we all do, but it appears that she makes no effort to correct them. Why doesn’t she have a coach who can show her video & teach her how to recognize her nervous tics & correct them. For example, when you want to hold the clutch in front of you, place it in one hand by your side & stand up straight with your shoulders back. It’s not rocket science, it just requires commitment & work which she obviously doesn’t want to do.

    • detritus says:

      If she crossed her arms she would be to standoffish
      If she put her hands behind her back like they are suggesting she would be too mannish. She can’t win, but she is also completely unsuited to the position.

      She’s a nervous, pretty girl who should never have married into the firm.

    • Alleycat says:

      Agreed. I don’t see how this stance is anything to nitpick over. She doesn’t look like her hands are anywhere near her crotch. Making fun of her for every little thing exhausts me and it downplays the real issues she has, like not working.

    • Adele Dazeem says:

      Agreed. And if the persistent bandage on fingers represents cuticle picking, she’s probably prone to fidgeting and picking when nervous, which is tough to curtail.

      • Sharon Lea says:

        Yes, the Sun just did an article about her Band Aids in the last few days. I hadn’t noticed those before til they printed the pictures.

      • Wiffie says:

        as a cuticle/ finger picker, I really do think this is her deal too. a bandaid is often on hey right thumb, which is a hot spot for me and many others. I see the “crotch clutching” as a way to keep her hands still and not pick, while simultaneously hiding bandages and visible wounds with her pose. plus, imo shaking someone’s hand when you had particularly rough biting is mortifying.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      Yes, I agree. And does anyone consider the possibility that she worries about bringing home seasonal flu colds to the little ones? Hands are often said to be the primary carriers/conveyors of colds.

    • Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

      Kate has very awkward and defensive body language. She presents an image of ‘I don’t want to be here and interact with you’. You only have to look at celebrities and other people in the public eye to see that there are better ways of speaking with your body.

      Other female celebs use clutches but they are relaxed with shoulders down and hold the bag slightly away from their body – Kate clutches it tight to her crotch with hunched shoulders, a sure sign that she doesn’t want to be there.

      If you are in the public eye body language is everything. She should do what Diana did and seek the help of actors – can’t remember who she worked with, it might have been Richard Attenborough.

      • Chaine says:

        I agree, her body language says, “I am extremely uptight and uncomfortable, I don’t want to be here, and don’t you touch me!” She may very well be a totally nice person, but she was not the right wife for this role.

      • LAK says:

        It was definitely Richard Attenborough.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It took a little while, but Diana eventually seemed comfortable with arms at her sides or arms bent at the elbow and hands lightly clasped at waist level (HM’s general stance). Hands over crotch is generally a sign of discomfort or anxiety.

      • Zardi123 says:

        Agree with you. .. this vapid arrogant girl child arrives and departs so quickly at anything she attends and always looks bored and uninterested when anywhere she has an awkward stance doesnt stand correctly at all her posture is dreadful for her age.

      • Ashamed 2 b a Fl girl says:

        ‘I don’t want to be here and interact with you’
        should be
        “I don’t deserve to be here…”
        There fixed it for you.

      • cindyp says:

        Exactly, it’s not rocket science. She needs a coach who can teach her to recognize her nervous habits & how to overcome them. I am a horrible public speaker but was required to do presentations as a big part of my job. I worked w/a coach who pointed out that one of my nervous habits is play w/my employee batch that hangs around my neck. Now, whenever I’m speaking in public I take it off. I’m not going to set the world on fire w/my oratory but at least I can now get through a presentation looking & sounding professional

      • Sharon Lea says:

        This is one of reasons I think she is really lazy because the average person would seek out someone to help with this issue, like Diana, or any of us. She has had plenty of time to work on this. Why hasn’t Carole found someone for her?

    • vauvert says:

      I agree everything gets picked over – but that doesn’t mean the things we pick over are not true.
      Every single formal occasion she attends, he ALWAYS carries a tiny clutch – and even when her hands are empty, she clasps them nervously over her crotch. If you look at lots of her pics, the only times she does not do that is on “sporty” occasions (cough Ben Ainsley cough).

      Her posture is always horrible. I don’t know if it’s a bad spine, hunger or cold, discomfort being on those horrendous heels or what – but she just has bad posture. If she stood up straight with her shoulders back, we wouldn’t be able to say she hunches.

      Too often her dresses fly up revealing more than they should – at wreath laying ceremonies, etc. There is no way to defend that. She isa grown ass woman, in her thirties, with (supposedly) a top notch education, who had TEN years to prepare for a life in the limelight. She had the time (no job), the money (at least we keep being told her family is rich and successful) and the obvious desire for the job of royal and could have been prepared – eloquence, etiquette, public speaking, deportment and what not. She obviously didn’t give a damn then and doesn’t now. That’s why we nitpick.

      IF she were a hard working woman, we could ignore the shallower details – the eyeliner overkill, the collection of coats that must require their own apartment by now, the nude heels, the bump-its in her hair, even some of the tics that we all have – playing with her hair and that manic grinning which i assume is only because she has no clue what to say. But since she doesn’t give us anything of substance to gossip about… there you have it.

    • lobbit says:

      Same. I think some criticism has merit, but a lot of the nitpicking about her…personal tics – her accent, the positioning of her hands, the plaster on her fingers, etc – seems so petty. It just makes me feel so bad for her.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Her accent? You mean the one that is completely unlike any member of her family and far more mangled and attempted-posh than the royal family? It is clearly an affectation, which is why it gets so much criticism.

      • LAK says:

        Her fake accent?

        It’s one thing to acquire an accent because you’ve moved areas, but she’s developed an accent posher than the Queen’s own accent. What the hell is that about? No one in the royal family speaks like that. SHE didn’t speak like that at the engagement.

      • lobbit says:

        Yes, her accent. I understand that it’s an affectation, but I think she’s either unconsciously aping the accents of the people around her (which is something that I do) or she’s doing it in a misguided, slightly desperate attempt to fit in with the class that she’s married into – which is sad but oddly endearing to me.

      • Deedee says:

        Her accent shows me she’s trying to be someone she’s not. She needs to find a stylist who knows how to dress her and find a way to work with her hair that doesn’t take hours of time for extensions and blowouts. Her hair is naturally very curly. I can’t imagine the hours she’s spent to make it look like it does. Imagine if she embraced the curl! She needs to drop the whole Diana 2.0 act and be the best version of herself. You can only keep up a charade for so long before it starts to show on the outside. I’ve always caught a “play acting” vibe from her and wondered how long it would last. Who is Kate? I wonder if she even recognizes herself at this point.

      • Lobbit says:

        In my experience, people pretend to be what they’re not when they don’t like themselves or when they fear that others won’t like or approve of them. It takes a lot of energy to fake a persona – you only do it if you think you have to.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Pippa has no such accent, and she was accepted somewhat better by members of the set. Why such an affectation that is obvious? No one else talks with such a mangled accent; it only makes her more obvious.

      • Nic919 says:

        Unless she is mentally deficient, it’s not cute that she puts on an accent posher than the queen. Madonna got ripped for her fake accent, so why does Kate get a pass? Her entire MO is the poor me, I’m just still a little shy girl at 35 and don’t know any better even though I have been in this family since 2011 and adjacent to it for over a decade.

        Princess Diana started off as Shy Di…. when she was 19. Then she grew up. Kate needs to and it is far past time that she did.

    • Jade says:

      I think it’s ok to work on the rest of her body language because that’s what some public speakers do. But I think there’s no need to dwell on her facial expressions so much because I am very sure I myself would not look regal and confident in all shots. Also, I refrain from talking about her weight or face. I actually think some people point these out because there’s nothing much to talk about when it comes to her…

    • Amberica says:

      Agreed. I cannot imagine having two experts on posture (that such a thing exists boggles the mind) commenting on my stance. Crazy.

      • LAK says:

        You’ve never been told to stand up straight? Or to pull your shoulders back or to walk upright? Or told not to slouch when sitting in a chair? Or at your desk as you write or type on your computer. These are everyday examples of posture correction that every single person goes through. No need to call experts in.

        Experts are only needed if you suffer from back problems – a sure sign of poor posture and or something that aggravates any underlying back issues if posture isn’t corrected.

        I can’t believe you’ve lived in such a vacuum that you’ve never come across posture correction before.

        Further, Kate apparently practises yoga regularly. Going by her posture, that’s hard to believe because yoga is big on posture correction.

  4. jmo says:

    Does her stylist hate her? Why so much rouge?

    • Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

      Having seen her in person she trowels the makeup on very thick, however as someone who used to work on photo shoots makeup is always applied heavily so that it shows up on camera. It may look drastic in person but on film (and under lights) it looks natural.

      • Kitty says:

        But even in pics we can see she wears too much makeup

      • Timbuktu says:

        @Digital Unicorn,
        I disagree. Her day appearances are more often than not shot in natural light, and from too far for flash to make a big difference. Surely she could have realized that by now?
        Heavy make-up has always been more of a theater thing: bright lights + distance.
        Even in TV and movies they dialed the makeup waaaaay down since we got HD, and there are more brights lights involved in those shoots…

  5. Frannydays says:

    So I have previously felt that people were a little too nit picky about her but then I actually watched a video of her, the one where she is leaving church on Christmas. And she really good not stop flipping her hair, even in front of the priest! I actually had a bad hair flicking problem when I attended church but in MIDDLE school. She needs to stop. Just wear it up if you’re so self conscious about how your hair looks.

    • Maria says:

      I saw that video. Get a haircut, or wear it back like Pippa did. Very annoying.

      • cindyp says:

        Exactly; she appears so unaware of her nervous tics. Why can’t someone point it out to her. “Hey, you need to stop playing with your hair like a teenager. Cut it, put it up or pull it back in public”

    • amy says:

      Queen Letizia could give her some great tips when it comes to hair styles.

    • LAK says:

      Amazingly, she’s cut back on the hair touching/flicking.

      In the beginning and for a few years, she often touched/flicked her hair every 5 secs as well as ‘crotch cluched’ and or tossed her hair/head. I remember watching her greet a receiving line where she run her hands through her hair before shaking the hand of each new person. And then flicked/stroked/tossed her hair several times whilst saying a few words to them.

      It was worse when she had extensions because she would scratch the extension root/clip and then shake a hand as well as all the touching/flicking/stroking.

      These days, whilst it’s not a huge change, she’s improved. The rate of flick/stroke/touch/toss has diminished over the years, BUT her posture is worse and she holds the clutch/hands in a way that appears to dig into her nether regions.

    • Liberty says:

      ..Kate Middleschool. How did we not get here until now? Thank you, Frannydays.

  6. MoreSalt says:

    Kate’s work efforts deserve the scorn, but the whole ‘crotch clutch’ thing is dumb to me. I also have no idea what to do with my hands, but I can’t stand purses without straps. So I cross my arms and look mad all the time at gatherings. *shrug*

    Girl, you’re in the position to effect positive change in the world like few other people ON THE PLANET. Effing do something with it already. If you didn’t want to do this you should’ve pulled a terribly-rich like Pippa.

  7. Lorelai says:

    I absolutely believe she would do this in order to avoid touching the peasants.

  8. MunichGirl says:

    Kate is insecure and doesn’t like to shake other people’s hands. She’s not even interested to talk to them, that’s why she is always by William’s side. It must be a horror for her to attend royal duties alone (well except when Ben Ainslie is there).

    • sarah says:

      I think Kate is spectacularly unsuited for the role her mother pushed her into. Pippa would have been much better at this – she seems much less nervous and much friendlier, more natural and confident. Now, between Wills and her mother, I am sure Kate is continually being beaten up, so she may have reasons to seem more and more anxious as time goes on. It’s sad, really.

  9. Sixer says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Oh, I do hate the Fail. But you have to admit it’s unbeatable at passive aggression, concern trolling and the backhanded compliment.

    • LAK says:

      Have you noticed the DM has a negative Cambridge article every day since the year began?

      - Work numbers ( several articles pointing out poor work ethic)
      - Photo society membership ( framed as ‘the public thinks this is a piss take, not us)
      - this article about crotch clutch

      And it’s only day 6.

      The annual ‘Cambridges are going to work THIS year’ article didn’t do the trick so today we have ‘William at work’ pap stroll.

    • Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

      Indeed – its also very good a hiding nice little nuggets of gossip wrapped up in all that trolling,

    • @LAK says:

      Are you saying the DM has an agenda ;)

    • Sharon Lea says:

      ha – I hadn’t thought of it, but you’re right the DM has been doing a story a day.

      Do you think they are trying to show solidarity as K&W sue the French photographers for those nude pics. They could be fined, but also serve up to a year in prison?! Why are they going through with it?

  10. ascian says:

    I always thought it was her way of preventing fly-away skirts from showing too much.

    • Reece says:

      You’re new to this aren’t you? ;)

      She’s already shown it all. I’m not talking those balcony pics, nope, at the official stuff.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        You’d think after all these years, she’d figure out how to wear a frock without inviting the whole world to be her gynecologist. Weepin’ sassenach on the cross…

        Carole Middleton, you wanted your daughter in royal circles but you royally dropped the ball. Less with the teaching Kate how to talk like a chipmunk with her mouth full of marbles, and more with the teaching Kate about the purpose and function of undergarments.

  11. TheOtherOne says:

    This article is absurd. I’m not a Kate apologist but I see nothing wrong with the way she carries her clutch. Where do you want to carry it, on top of her head? If she carried an handbag everyone would call it a granny purse. Enough (for today).

    But seriously what is an aristocratic slouch? Does anyone have a pic?

    • Angel says:

      Think 1930′s sort of louch attitude, everyone from the movie Gosford Park.

      • Citresse says:

        The fabrics used back then made every woman look slouchy. Thin, clingy etc…
        I wish I could go back to those days and have afternoon tea at one of the shops near the train station.

  12. Deedee says:

    It’s a defensive stance. She’s always playing with her hair as well. No confidence and no work ethic. Lack of preparedness for outings and speeches. She has never had a steady job, and there is no sign that she will step up, ever.

  13. Nico says:

    Forgive me, but what is an aristocratic slouch? lol

  14. MyOp says:

    Daily Fail: “William says that as Kate becomes more comfortable in her royal role, she will realise that there’s no need to deploy her accessories for protection.” – That’ll never happen, she doesn’t fit into the BRF.

    • HappyMom says:

      Dear god-how long is she going to be able to milk that excuse??

      • paddyjr says:

        +1000. She has been married for almost 6 years and was Royal-adjacent for 10 years before that. Her younger child is more than a year old. How much time does it take to “be comfortable in her royal role”?

      • Sharon Lea says:

        Paddyjr, that’s the perfect phrase, “royal-adjacent!”

    • Kitty says:

      Her purpose in life was never to be a royal.

  15. Mamunia says:

    I’m so glad the DM have called her out on this. It is so annoying seeing a grown woman this physically uncomfortable. Her clutch grabbing is her ‘tell.’ She does not feel comfortable in her role in her 6th year. There is a serious problem brewing in their household and it really can’t be kept hidden much longer. Either they are willing to accept their role and all the perks that go with it, or they both need to step down.

    • Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

      There are certain events that she appears more comfortable – these are usually when she’s with William or at family events, see: balcony appearances. The crotch clutching is more obvious at events she doesn’t want to be at or has no interest in or she’s on her own.

  16. Mikasa says:

    Kate is not a people person, that’s why she wears her clutch bag in front of her crotch. It’s a “please don’t touch and talk to me”-atittude

  17. Citresse says:

    That blue outfit was a good look on her.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The plaid or the light blue (which was SWFing Angelina Jolie down to the hairstyle and earrings?

      • Citresse says:

        The light blue Notasugarhere. And William should wear light blue too – it’s a nice look on him too while we taxpayers force him to return to university to earn MBA, hence he may well manage his own funds and stop bleeding taxpayers dry, that silly, lazy twit.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Too bad he never finished the course. Had plenty of time to go on vacation a couple times during it too.

  18. amy says:

    The DM has new pics of Queen Letizia and I really wish she would lend Kate her stylist because she always looks stunning.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Letizia almost always dresses well. There were a few shaky outfits in the early years, when she tried frilly. Frilly is not a good look for her. Feminine yes, frilly no.

    • Maiden says:

      What Letizia has that Kate doesn’t, fashion-wise, is a tailor/seamstress who knows exactly the right fit for Letizia’s physique. Notice now her clothes are always tailored to perfection and fit her so well. Her fave designer Felipe Varela may not be too creative or imaginative but he knows how to dress the Queen of Spain in a way that makes it look like most of her outfits are bespoke. Even Letizia’s clothes from Zara or Mango still fit well that it gives the appearance of being pricey when it’s not.

      Plus Letizia has amazing posture, confidence and gravitas. Three things that Kate does not have and probably will not have even if she tries. Confidence and gravitas come from experience and as long as Kate doesn’t get out there to be exposed to various life experiences and interactions with people outside of her and her family, she won’t develop anything beyond a little girl/teenage angst persona of someone who often looks like she doesn’t want to be there. Designer clothes won’t mask her insecurities and lack of confidence.

      • A says:

        Letizia’s clothes aren’t always tailored to perfection though. Felipe Varela especially has had some instances where the fit is really poor. But given the amount of clothes she wears that she must get tailored, it’s an eventuality she can’t avoid. She’s got her own style though, and I like that.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        THIS.

        Letizia looks like a QUEEN. Kate looks like an emo dress up doll.

  19. BLewis1776 says:

    When ever I see her at a public event or some article about how she has such a hard time adapting to “royal” life I always think of the scene in Pride and Prejudice.

    “Shall we ask him why a man of sense and education, and who has lived in the world, is ill qualified to recommend himself to strangers?”
    `I certainly have not the talent which some people possess,” said Darcy, “of conversing easily with those I have never seen before.
    “My fingers,” said Elizabeth, “do not move over this instrument in the masterly manner which I see so many women’s do. But then I have always supposed it to be my own fault — because I would not take the trouble of practising.

  20. CharlieWaffles says:

    OT:

    Has anyone here read the article about Ed Sheeran where he says that he is not allowed to talk about the Princess-Beatrice-sword-incident?

  21. Tough Cookie says:

    If she walked with her hands clasped behind her back how would she show off the Ring of Doom??? Oh, wait….she’d walk backwards. Got it.

    • graymatters says:

      I think the hand clasped behind their back position is a riff off of the military at-ease position that the DoE is comfortable with. It goes along with feet shoulder-width apart. If Kate were to adopt this position, not only would we not be able to see the ring, but she’d get flack for not having her feet together. Poor Kate. She just can’t seem to keep her hands at her sides (or out of her hair).

      • Nico says:

        So I skimmed the DM article and noticed it said that you shouldn’t walk with your arms/hands behind your back, but why is it considered bad if your hands are behind your back? From the aristocratic slouch to hand placement, I’m learning so much today! Haha

      • graymatters says:

        The hands behind the back stance is military, therefore masculine. William Hansom is neither. And he wouldn’t approve of women in civilian dress being so either.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I thought that a very sweet part of the home videos that were released last year – Charles emulating Philip’s hands behind the back stance.

    • Lorelai says:

      @Tough Cookie

      😂😂😂

  22. mayamae says:

    I would call it the tall girl slouch, but then ten people would immediately chime in that she’s not tall – it’s just an illusion.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Here I am, chiming in. Facts are facts, not illusion. When you stand her next to people of known height (say, Michelle Obama) it is clear that she is 5’6″ or 5’7″ on a tall day.

      The illusion comes in when she has clothing altered to visually trick the eye about her body proportions. Or when she wears 5-6″ heels with platforms to appear either longer-legged or taller.

      • Apples says:

        @notasugarhere – what is it with some people assuming that someone would try to “alter” their height by tricking the viewer? That someone will go through the trouble? It’s just height and yeah, it looks slightly off-balance when your partners is much taller (shorter) than you, but it’s not like being tall is the same as being pretty or thin or rich or marry well, in other words, things people usually feel jealous of.
        I will never get this “conspiracy.” Like, “ooh, she’s trying to look tall but we know she is not!!”

      • Hazel says:

        Apples: I think the ‘tall’ is all part of trying to make Kate another Diana, which is both unfair & unnecessary.

      • Kitty says:

        Yeah she’s actually shorter. She appears taller because she has long torso and is skinner. Also she purposely wants her legs to appear long. I guess being long bodied with short legs isn’t attractive to some people.

    • graymatters says:

      It may be partly the tall girl slouch, where she needs to bend down to make eye contact. But it’s also partly because her heels are so high that her hips thrust forward for balance. So she ends up with an exaggerated S-curve of her spine.

    • Chrissy says:

      As a tall girl, I have to take exception. Tall girl slouch is a myth. I am 5’11″ and I have never slouched. Her poor posture is a symptom of her lack of confidence, lack of preparedness and generally feeling out of her depth. If she seriously prepared for her engagements by showing any curiosity, worked on her public-speaking with a professional and found it within herself to care about something other than her next hair appointment, her next shopping trip and visiting her mother for a pep talk, she would be much better off. Not to put a fine point on it but it’s called being an adult. Like it or not, she married into a job. She has only herself to blame for being an almost 35 year old who refuses to evolve into her role after chasing it for 10 years and after almost 6 years “on the job”. She made her own bed and it’s her responsibility to actually earn her lifestyle.

      • mayamae says:

        Not a myth – I’m a tall girl. You can add in “stop looking at my big boobs” slouch, too. Slouching is a way of making yourself more diminutive. But then I was shy and introverted, so there you go.

        And I certainly was not commenting in any way about her responsibilities and poor work ethic. But that’s where any story leads, even if it’s simply a pic of her kids.

        But my point is kind of made. Just awaiting eight more comments. (Can I count my own?)

      • notasugarhere says:

        mayamae, as pointed out frequently on here, she isn’t tall. You defending her poor posture as “tall girl slouch” (when such a thing doesn’t exist, it is person by person – see 5’10″ Diana) isn’t relevant. But happy to add to your comment count.

    • lobbit says:

      If I had to guess, I’d say Kathy is about 5’8″ish. I remember those pictures of her and Will meeting Beyonce and Jay Z, and she was about an inch taller than B – both ladies were wearing 3-4 inch heels.

      • Apples says:

        I think so too – she is about 5’8 – 5’9″.

      • LAK says:

        I’d say shorter because in those 4in heels, she doesn’t exactly tower over Charles who is known to be 5ft 10in when she stands next to him on the balcony at Trooping the colour.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Look for her rare photos in flats next to William. 5’6″ to 5’7″

      • vava says:

        Yes, NOTA is right. In the photos where she wore flats (or was barefoot) there is no way she is anything over 5’7″.

      • Apples says:

        @vava – and? Had she ever made a statement that she is over 5’7″ (which is not so short anyway, btw)? She is just wearing heels like millions of other women, that’s all.

      • Kitty says:

        @Apples. deal with it she’s not as tall as you think she is.

  23. Lascivious says:

    Penalty kick pose.

  24. Apples says:

    I’m more interested in the story about how she is wearing plasters on her hands and fingers all the time :) Google it – The Mirror had a piece about it. Is William pulling her finger?

    • Hazel says:

      Here’s my theory: she’s developed OCD & is constantly washing her hands raw.

    • A says:

      She’s probably just picking at them. It can happen when your hands have a tendency to get dry, which makes you want to pick away at the skin. It’s a stimming/self-soothing thing and it’s not as painful as it sounds, and usually something that is done unconsciously. It *can* be a sign/symptom of other issues, but I don’t want to diagnose anything or be an armchair psychologist so.

      • Apples says:

        @A – how odd. I’m assuming she uses hand lotion, can it really be that bad? I know about nail biting, cuticle chewing, but skin picking like that?

  25. Sage says:

    Kate has a spine issue. I think Charlotte Casigrahi has the same issue too.

  26. Starlight says:

    Keep up the coy little girl flower in the corner so sweet I need support clutch clasping and maybe she will get her way for Christmas in buckleberry next year.

  27. Calico Cat says:

    She should just stick her thumb in her mouth and be done with it!

  28. Hazel says:

    Where do they get these ‘experts’?! Kate’s ‘flawless posture’? Diana’s invention of the coordinating handbag? Come on!

  29. Ang says:

    She may have a condition called Hyperhydrosis, where palms sweat at times, making hand shaking uncomfortable. I just realized it was a thing and I may have it. Feet sweat too for some people. May explanation some of her shoe choices. Just a thought .

  30. Jade says:

    Hmmm..so I’ve looked at this Ben and Kate pictures and they look pretty compatible! Or is it just me…

  31. A says:

    Maybe she’s patting down her lady parts to make sure they’re still there? (Thanks, I’ll see myself out). At any rate, I know I call her snatch scratcher and all but…why is this something that the Daily Mail actually wanted to talk about? To the extent of calling in people to analyze this behaviour? I’m sorry but aren’t we all better off by NOT speculating? I don’t want to know why she does it, I just know she does and if it’s to not shake hands with people, then all the better lol.

  32. Kitty says:

    How is it after 5 years she is still not comfortable with her role? Are people going to make the same excuses for her in 10, 20, 30 years?
    You guys think she will ever be Queen consort in the future?

  33. Egla says:

    I would be a terrible Duchess I know. I like to put my hands in my pockets a lot. Also the military pose with the hands behind. It comes natural to me and can be quite feminine if done well. As for Kate she probably had had some lessons for how to behave herself and some of them suited more to her so she addapted them clutching, etc. that’s why some of her behaviours seem contrived because are not hers naturally. And yes whatever she does she HAS to show that damn ring no matter what. If it was me I would go without anything in my hands. It’s not like she hasn’ t people to carry little things for her and the car is there. But anyway as I said i love pockets and I can carry stuff there…with my hands inside 😜

  34. Kitty says:

    Is it me or does Kate make being a royal princess boring compared to Diana?

    • Sharon Lea says:

      No, I feel that way too. I think Harry will marry Meghan Markle, and she will actually bring some life to events, enjoy doing charity work and wear some great clothes. Until then, we’ll all be bored and just have Kate’s clothes to comment on.

    • Kitty says:

      @Apples. yeah that is true. I mean Diana loved the attention and being popular.

  35. Deedee says:

    I don’t think Diana wore that ring as much as Kate does. Why wear it for every single appearance? She has a wedding ring.

  36. Nikole says:

    I see it is a trend to find excuses for her and to write such stupid things.

  37. Janetdr says:

    I misread the headline to mean that she carries the clutch to minimize her hands shaking, not handshaking. I’d be more likely to give her a pass if her hands were shaking! I hate the hands over crotch position on everyone, not just her. At my niece’s wedding the professional photographer insisted on clasped hands for the formal photos and it looks so odd…