Arnold Schwarzenegger wanted to ‘smash’ Donald Trump’s face ‘into the table’

Q&A for NBC's ' The New Celebrity Apprentice'

I truly feel like a political naif because it didn’t occur to me that Donald Trump and Arnold Schwarzenegger could be in cahoots about the increasingly messy situation of Celebrity Apprentice. To recap, Arnold took over as host of The Apprentice when Trump left to be president. Before he even entered the White House, Trump was bitching about Arnold and the decreased ratings for the show. Then at the National Prayer breakfast, Baby Fists implored the room to pray for Arnold and for the ratings. Arnold responded quickly with a Twitter video, offering to switch places with Baby Fists. Baby Fists got up bright and early Friday morning to bitch about Arnold even more. My read on all of this was simple: Trump was and is jealous. He wishes he was back hosting The Apprentice. He’s in over his head as President, which is why he lashes out like a temperamental toddler.

But some of believe that Baby Fists and Arnold have some kind of deal where they’re “beefing” in public as a way of promoting Celebrity Apprentice. It’s an okay theory and God knows, I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. But isn’t it more frightening to think that perhaps this wasn’t a ploy for ratings, or a manufactured boy-beef? Isn’t it scarier to realize that Baby Fists really is this petty, distracted and immature? Arnold has a new profile in Men’s Journal and you know what? It sure sounds like Arnold truly cannot stand Trump.

On Trump’s first tweet-disses: “Don’t get into a stinking contest with a skunk.”

Why he took the Apprentice gig: “I’d never done a reality-TV show and thought it would be interesting. When Trump started running for office, I said to myself, ‘Obviously he can’t do both.’ ” Schwarzenegger got in touch with Mark Burnett, the show’s creator, met with the brass at NBC, and was soon hired. “They said, ‘Let’s do a season and see what happens,’ ” he says.

He waited for a few hours before responding to Trump’s first tweet-diss: “I said, ‘Let’s sit on it for an hour’. I called my assistant and said, ‘I think what we really should do is request a meeting and go back to New York.’  And then we just smash his face into the table. And then I think we can’t do that, either. I think I have to be above all of that and put him on the spot.” He wound up tweeting a reply: “There’s nothing more important than the people’s work. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you’ll work for ALL of the American people as aggressively as you worked for your ratings.”

Arnold’s continued tweets about actual policy: “I think people really reacted well to that response,” Schwarzenegger says, pointing out that it’s Trump who sounds like a rogue action hero with no impulse control. “I sound more presidential and more diplomatic and more elder-statesman — that’s exactly the way Donald should be.”

[From Men’s Journal]

So, just furthering the for-profit boy-beef as a way for both of them to get headlines? Or is it a petty distraction, a sleight of hand so we aren’t focused on the more deplorable sh-t that Baby Fists is up to? Personally, I believe that people are overthinking this, as I’ve said before. Think of the worst case scenario, think of the absolute scariest theory out there, and that’s what’s actually happening. Trump is a petty lunatic, not a Machiavellian genius. He’s incapable of seeing three steps ahead. And that’s what’s terrifying, not that he might have worked out some scheme with Arnold to boost ratings of an already-faltering show.

Arnold also tweeted this – that’s a link to a story about how he turned over his tax returns when he was running for governor of California.

The New Celebrity Apprentice premiere Episode 5 as seen on NBC.

Photos courtesy of WENN.

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  1. FourFiveFire says:

    Okay, I know this isn’t a substantive comment but I just want to say it’s too bad that the makeup artists on that show want to make everybody Orange.

    • NotSoSocialButterfy says:

      I think Arnold looks extra orange because of the color of hair dye. He should go au natural. Salt & pepper, please.

    • Achoo! says:

      Arnie has embraced the orange all his life, ever since his weight lifter days.

  2. Radley says:

    I don’t think it’s fake beef. Cheetolini is far too sensitive for anyone to even fake insult him. And Schwarzenegger didn’t endorse him for President, right? I think it’s a genuine battle of two huge egos. But how awful is Trump that he makes maid impregnating typical Republican yahoo macho man Arnold look good? Wow.

    • JudyK says:

      This is not a fake duel between Trump and Arnold. Good lord, just read Trump’s tweets this morning regarding ratings. He has to be the most insecure male on the planet. I can’t believe he holds our welfare in his hands and feel like I’m living in an alternate universe.

    • V4Real says:

      I don’t think it’s fake either. Arnold even had negative words for Trump after that Access Hollywood tape was released of Billy Bush and Baby Fist.

      And before anyone says it, yes I know Arnold is a cheater who fathered a child outside of his marriage to Maria but at least we never heard of him speaking such foul sexist garbage as Baby Fist did on that tape.

    • ME says:

      Question – isn’t Trump still associated with CA?

  3. Nancy says:

    They’re both lying swines who screwed around on their wives. They are both abrasive and annoying. It wouldn’t surprise me if they were in some sort of ratings scheme, but man, if so, is there nothing trump won’t do for attention and more money. Jesus GD Christ, he is a moron.

    • robyn says:

      It’s a scam!!!! That’s why he’s keeping it up.

      • V4Real says:

        But doesn’t Trump keep a lot of things up? Look at the beef between him and Rosie O’Donnell. Was that a scam that he kept going? Trump can’t help but to clap back at people who he feels come for him.

        Also I don’t think Arnold would appreciate being called the worst Governor of California just for ratings. That’s character assassination.

      • V4Real says:

        That’s suppose to say Trump does keep a lot of things up.

    • jwoolman says:

      But Trump has always triggered my disturbingly accurate abusive sleazeball radar while Arnold never has (my radar apparently ignores otherwise non-abusive cheating husbands but picked up on Bill Cosby while he was playing beloved Dr. Huxtable, long before anything public came out). Arnold is normal, Trump is not. Arnold was not born into the 1%, Trump was. Arnold has actually worked for what he has, Trump has not. Arnold is just normal benign Hollywood narcissistic and actually knows and cares that the rest of the world is important and has real emotions, Trump is a malignant narcissist who lacks a sense of humor and empathy, treats family and everyone else as property, and goes into narcissistic rages. They are definitely not equivalent.

  4. Sam says:

    I don’t believe this is for ratings, since the show was taped long in advance. If it were happening now and they could respond on the show, I’d agree a little more. But the fight doesn’t make anybody want to watch, so I’m inclined to disagree with that theory.

    Trump hates Arnold because, while Arnold started out in the entertainment world, Arnold actually spent years getting immersed in politics, learning the ropes and actually made genuine attempts to govern (how well he did is a matter of debate). But he didn’t go the Trump route. Now I think Trump would have genuinely hated a guy like Ronald Reagan too, since Reagan was an actor who actually seemed to make the jump into the political sphere. Trump is not a media guy-turned-politician – he’s a media guy pretending to be a politician.

    • Charlotte says:

      Agree re: political training. Also, Arnold really *does* have the money (unlike He Who Will Not Be Named)

    • Christin says:

      Orange has supposedly only had one boss in his life — his father, who gave him money and a role in his company. So, in addition to zero political experience, he’s never reported to anyone other than Daddy.

      It’s no wonder the skin is thin, and the level of understanding of basic norms isn’t apparent.

  5. Shambles says:

    I never thought I would agree with Arnold Sterioids Schwarzenegger on anything, but no lies are being told here.

  6. honeybee blues says:

    I spent several years in the 90s working for Sargent and Eunice Kennedy Shriver, Maria’s parents, Arnold’s then-in-laws. Yes, I met him a few times. His flaws are out there, so no need in rehashing, but what I know is regardless of his leanings, he is a TRUE believer in this country and its political process. He was close with the Shrivers and greatly respected their advice and council. It is my belief, knowing him as I do (through his former family), that he’s as disgusted with Foolius Ceasar as the rest of us. I still don’t like him, but I’m confident in my assessment. This is no game on his part.

    • Christin says:

      His appreciation for the country has always seemed genuine.

      Side note — Though obviously separated for a long time, did he and Maria ever officially divorce?

      • holly hobby says:

        I doubt the Catholic in them will allow them to divorce. Rather they will just live separate lives. That’s the same for the Gores (not sure if they are Catholic or not). Separated for years but Al and Tipper are still legally married.

      • honeybee blues says:

        Yes, they are divorced. She waited until January 2011, after Mr. Shriver passed to let him know that she knew about the kid, etc. The divorce was finalized a couple of years later, quietly.

    • lucy2 says:

      Thanks for the insider info!
      Whatever people think of him as a person, an actor, or a politician, he is the epitome of the American dream, so I’m not surprised he truly believes in it. That’s good to hear.

  7. LindseyLULU says:

    This isn’t a fake beef. Arnold is a member of the establishment, more moderate subset of Republicans. Think John Kasich, Romney, Etc.
    I actually work in politics, and was on senior staff for 2 presidential campaigns this last cycle, trust me when I say-they LOATHE dJt.

    • StartupSpouse says:

      @LindseyLULU Tell us more, please! How big of a liability does he have to be to the Republican party to get any movement on impeachment? I’m guessing if it looks like they are going to get swept away in the midterms, but that’s SO FAR FROM NOW.

      • robyn says:

        Interesting thought. If Arnold tried to work and get Trump impeached that would be useful and something to watch.

  8. Luca76 says:

    I don’t see it as a gambit for ratings because the deplorables lash out at Trump’s enemies and aren’t they the only ones who’d watch at this point?

  9. jwoolman says:

    I think Arnold genuinely doesn’t like Trump or the way he behaves and also doesn’t like a lot of his policies. He’s a California/Hollywood Republican, they have a different profile and consider who he married. My bet is that Arnold voted for Hillary. Possible tax cuts just wouldn’t be his sole motivation, and that’s really all the Orange Maroon had to offer people like him. Arnold undoubtedly recognized how unstable the Trumpster was and how bad he would be as President, and actually cared about things like that.

    Arnold worked hard for what he has and has always shown a much better grasp on reality for the 99% than born-rich President Tweeter. Arnold is actually a normal person, not a malignant narcissist. He was an unfaithful husband, but for some reason that doesn’t seem to correlate with other obnoxious qualities (maybe it’s a big brain vs little brain dichotomy that we will never understand, it’s always baffled me that men risk so much for so little). He can’t be President because he wasn’t born a citizen. But we all really would sleep much more comfortably if he switched places with President Tweeter.

  10. ash says:

    whether this was fake or not…. there was a REAL OWNING once Arnold released his receipts (pun intended) regarding his tax returns.

    • jwoolman says:

      Arnold sent out a video message (tweet maybe?) to the people of Ukraine supporting them in their struggle to keep out the Russians. Wonder if President Tweeter was aggravated by that. Arnold is very realistic about Putin and the danger he poses. I should point out that the Russians are doing more than backing the pro-Russia separatists in Ukraine directly with weapons and personnel – pro-Russian hackers also made a serious attack on software and hardware for the election last Spring, and the Russians broadcast the intended results (where their candidate “won”) that would have happened if the Ukrainians had not been able to work around it. Sound familiar? (By the way, cautionary tale for us: the Ukrainian election was protected by the fact that they used paper ballots and hand counts.)

      Geez, now I really do want them to switch places. Can’t we make an exception for the Austrian? Maybe Emergency Legislation to Protect the Republic from a Lunatic? He’s a Republican, that’s all the people in control of Congress care about anyway. He’s a celebrity, which is also what they want. And he has actually read the Constitution and knows there are three independent branches of government for a reason. And he doesn’t have to prove he’s tough by killing people.

  11. Eric says:

    They have one thing in common: both are growing up or grew up under a Nazi. Arnold’s dad was a member and raised a baby. Steve Banal is a member and is raising a baby.

    • jwoolman says:

      Yeah, but Arnold seems to have overcome his father’s attitudes. Melania Trump’s father was once a member of the Communist Party, but you don’t see her sharing the wealth…. We are not doomed to become exactly like our parents, although there are times I tell myself in horror that I’m becoming my mother. (In some ways, that’s good, but in other ways… not.)

      Trump’s father marched with the KKK, wearing Klan robes. Unfortunately Trump absorbed his father’s attitudes pretty thoroughly if you examine his actions and statements over the years. He doesn’t have a high opinion of African-Americans, although like many racists he makes some individual exceptions.

      • Doc says:

        @jwoolman re:’melanians father was a communist’ – in ex-Yugoslavia you HAD to be a member of the communist party if you wanted anything done, e.g. having a job. unless her father was some high-profile communist (which I don’t know), belief in the theoretical system had little to do witht the membership and more with survival in a country running quite a laissez faire communist system.

  12. Ruyana says:

    The ratings are not down because of Arnold. They’re down because Cheetolini is still listed as an executive producer of the show and he’s still getting paid. Many of us see no reason to reward his money-hungry ways. President Bannon had better get Cheetolini under control (if anybody can) because he’s making our country look like a nation populated by complete morons.

    • lucy2 says:

      Bannon is the one who wants him out of control. I think he’s hoping to push Trump to do all the horrible things he’s ever thought of, and do them fast before the impeachment comes.

      I agree about the ratings, a lot of people want nothing to do with anything Trump related. Plus ratings in general have been lowering due to the amount of channels and streaming, and it’s a tired old show that should have ended a decade ago.

  13. Riley says:

    I think it’s an authentic wee wee contest. I think the absolute proof this is real was when Arnold turned over his tax returns. That made Trump look even worse and AS would not have done that if this was manufactured for ratings. Trump is crazy enough to talk about the Apprentice when he’s supposed to be running the country. It will be a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng 4 years!

  14. Louisa says:

    Oh my god smash trumps head on the table.
    ALL HAIL !

  15. AnnE says:

    It is definitely not for ratings, AS was on the Tim Ferris podcast and they got into it.

  16. trynfindit says:

    Who cares?

  17. Emily says:

    FAKE. They’re both in on it. I wouldn’t even know that Apprentice was still on unless DJT used his official speaking engagements as President to remind us. If that’s not a conflict of interest, I don’t know what is. A good feud drives up ratings, and DJT knows it. DJT runs Ahnuld’s name in the ground, Ahnuld’s ratings go up, Trump makes more money. Makes me sick.

  18. Lyla says:

    Pretty sure trump and mark Burnett damaged the apprentice brand all by themselves.

  19. MI6 says:

    What stopped him?

  20. Bee says:

    Considering how stupid it made babyfists look, I doubt it was a scam.