Katy Perry: Taylor Swift tried to ‘assassinate my character with little girls’

Katy Perry leaves Le Meurice Hotel in Paris

Katy Perry has finally taken it to Taylor Swift. It’s just coming years after Taylor “started it,” as Katy said to James Corden. To be fair, Katy hasn’t had a new album until now, her first since Taylor devoted “Bad Blood” to their Mean Girl War of Attrition. Even though all of the Tay-stans cry on every post that Katy is “over” and that “her album sucks,” that’s not really here nor there, as far as I’m concerned: Katy has a right to finally tell her side of the story. So spare me the tales of how Taylor “wants no part” of Katy’s drama, or that Taylor thinks Katy is “using her for publicity.” This whole thing just feels like the chickens have come home to roost. So, Katy has given yet another interview where she dares to mention her nemesis. Some highlights from her NME piece:

Why she talked about the Swift drama with James Corden: “Well, James Corden makes me and the whole world feel very safe. No one has asked me about my side of the story, and there are three sides of every story: one, two, and the truth.”

Why she didn’t let it go: “I mean, I’m not Buddha—things irritate me. I wish that I could turn the other cheek every single time, but I’m also not a pushover, you know? Especially when someone tries to assassinate my character with little girls [her fans]. That’s so messed up!”

How both she and Swift have worked with producer Max Martin: “I can’t speak for him, but he didn’t know [who ‘Bad Blood’ was about]. I’m not supposed to tell him what he can and can’t do. I’m very fair; I’m super-duper fair and I’m not one of those people who’s like, ‘You can’t do that because I don’t like that person’. Just, like, you do you, make your own choices. I love Max. I’ve been working with Max my whole career. I’m not his mother and he was fine before I met him, you know what I’m saying? He’ll be fine continuing.”

[From NME via Elle]

I love this: “Especially when someone tries to assassinate my character with little girls.” Is that shade? Can I get a ruling on that? Because while the entire interview is too direct to be considered shade – Katy is clearly talking sh-t about Taylor, as opposed to “shading” her – I feel like the “little girls” thing is shade, or at the very least, shady. Katy is saying that Taylor told her hissing snake lies to the only people who would listen, Taylor’s fanbase of little girls.

As for the Max Martin thing… what’s funny to me is that we’ve been told for years that Taylor is this one-of-a-kind singer-songwriter and everything she touches is golden and she does it all on her own. While Tay is a lot more savvy than her image suggests, and while she has a lot of input into everything about her career, she still owes a lot of her biggest hits to co-writers and producers like Max Martin.

Also: because Taylor is so “over” Katy’s drama, Taylor decided to re-release her music on streaming services on the same day Katy’s album, Witness, was released. So subtle, Snake Emoji.

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  1. Prince says:

    Katy’s new music is dreadful and she needs all the publicity she can get, that’s why she keeps mentioning Taylor.

    • Alleycat says:

      So then what was Taylor’s excuse for starting this whole thing? And let’s not pretend Bad blood is any better than Katy’s new music.

      • Erica_V says:

        When she talked to RS about 1989 Taylor said that for years the person Bad Blood was about would make really backhanded comments to her whenever they were at shows or events together. She thought they were friends but was never really sure. Then when Taylor was planning her tour some of her dancers broke contract to go work for Katy. That was the straw for Taylor and she wrote Bad Blood in response.

        I really disagree Taylor started it. I think Katy did something unprofessional (hiring someone else’s contract employees is shitty IMO) and Taylor reacted to it the way Taylor reacts about bad things in her life – she wrote a song about it. If Katy hadn’t taken the dancers I don’t think there would’ve been a song.

      • mar_time says:

        Erica, This has been discussed a million times now…they had a memo in their contracts about early outs because they were Katy’s dancers originally. Everyone goes through hoops to defend Taylor, I used to be a fan but cannot support a person like that. Once a snake, always a snake.

      • FLORC says:

        It’s true on the contracts. Supported by all sides except swift.
        And dancers aren’t the same as hired company professionals. This wasn’t headhunting. They gave notice of this intent before signing the contract.
        I’m not a fan of either.

        Swift made this a big thing. She kept it going. Katy isn’t pure and innocent in the feud, but without a doubt. This became public as alive so long because swift nurtured it.
        She made her bed.

    • Char says:

      The only winner vs. Taylor is Kim Kardashian and her recepeits. Katy had 2 years to pop a song and wrote the most ridiculous one, calling Nicki Minaj to it. Nicki, who was anihilated by Remy Ma on their feud. So I’m expecting Taylor to come up with a good pop song and Remy on the rap.

    • Rice says:

      This x1000.

    • deevia says:

      It’s Britney vs Christina with 10x more mediocre performances. Whoever deliver the hits will “win”. But Donald Trump is drowning out the media scene and pushing these bubble gum celebrities and their manufactured beefs to the irrelevant category. Notice how all the major female artists keep flopping after he comes to power. They should thank God for the EDM-wave that they lasted this long with this child-ish stuff. Even Britney and Christina were forced to evolve their materials and image after 1-2 albums while upgrading their performances. You can’t sing about exes, “dear diary” etc forever.

    • kate says:

      Agree. Katy’s music is just so awful to me. Roar makes my skin crawl.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Her voice is so shrill to my ears. “Firework” makes my ears bleed.

      • Erica_V says:

        Roar is also a blatant rip off of Sara Bareilles’ song “Brave”. I always thought Katy deserved a lot more flack than she got for ripping off that song.

      • FLORC says:

        Lots of songs are blatant copies.
        With roar the song writer is more to blame.
        And Sara made a point to say she’s 100% cool over it.
        Imo brave was better than roar, but I’m no fan of either single.

    • Saks says:

      Agree, specially her diss track has been really underwhelming

    • Anna says:

      Pettiness, social media and mostly NARCISSISM has stunted the growth of these young women. Their maturity level consists of sniping like jr. high mean-girls. Each need lessons in grace, tact, diplomacy and the art of saying nothing and being Zen. There’s room for both in the industry OBVIOUSLY. Spending so much time focused on another person is not only immature, it’s pathological. If I were as economically fortunate as them, I might join forces, despite differences and create something to benefit those in need. Stop thinking about yourselves for five minutes. If not that, I would just be constantly amazed at my blessings and nothing but grateful and learning to be more humble and a better woman.

  2. Anna nuttall says:

    Bad Blood part 2 – this is gonna be good! I’m personally team Katy as Taylor swift is nothing but a nasty childish girl. I was reading report earlier this week on people who went to HS with Taylor and said she was horrible then as is now. Look like she hasn’t changed much.

    • WeAreAllMadeOfStars says:

      Tell us where the article is so your fellow teammates can read it!

    • Jenny says:

      I luckily have never met TS and don’t even know that much about her but she exudes such a nasty mean girl vibe I’m amazed she has any fans at all. And I’m thoroughly un-amazed that every relationship she’s ever had lasts for only about a hot second. Her inner nastiness clearly leaks out pretty instantly. No wonder she has to resort to bearding so she can at least appear to be dating someone.

  3. sarri says:

    I used to like Perry but I just can’t with her anymore.

    • hannah89 says:

      both of them are just terrible. i wish we could just send them both into space and then they can duke it out there (and not come back).

  4. anonymous says:

    They both need to grow up now and move on, this beef is getting childish.

  5. Anya says:

    This haircut does nothing for her.

    • Lolo86lf says:

      I agree. Her new look is not the best for her. She lost weight and cut her hair short and bleach it like Miley Cyrus a few years ago, but it doesn’t quite enhance her looks. I like Perry with dark hair and curves. Perry somehow reminds me of a young Delta Burke with gorgeous black hair and sensual curvy hips.

    • Mary says:

      Now this I can agree on. Katy is a very pretty girl but that haircut and color does nothing for her. It reminds me of when kaley cuoco cut her hair.

  6. Indira says:

    That haircut doesn’t do her any favors.

  7. No name says:

    Well Katy has an album to sell and if Swish Swish is any indication, it’s a poor one at that.

    • kate says:

      So are we now assuming that Taylor must be releasing a new album this year? And is really trying to hurt Katy’s sales so as to help her own statistics later in the year? If so I applaud her ingenuity.

      • supposedtobeworking says:

        Lainey has a good article on Taylor’s streaming move – if Taylor’s old music can be more relevant than Katie’s new music, Taylor comes out on top.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I just realized that Witness is her first album without Dr. Luke. I wonder if that is why the singles are doing so poorly? Max Martin is no slouch, but typically Katy does well on the charts.

  8. Lolo86lf says:

    So it appears both Ms. Perry and Ms. Swift are using each other to promote their albums by stirring a feud between them that may or may not be real. Perhaps their feud is real but they are exaggerating it to stir controversy. To be quite honest, I do not appreciate this kind of media manipulation. I like both ladies’ work and I do not need to be lied to in order to buy their music.

  9. Ayra. says:

    Taylor was truly petty by releasing all her music on spotify a few hours before Katy’s album. I find this whole thing to be so incredibly childish, but lord…I’m here for it. I’m all for celebrity drama.
    Taylor ended up getting more publicity than Katy, lol

  10. Carol Hill says:

    Can these two high schoolers please go to college so this will end?

    • hannah89 says:

      they would never get into college lol

    • Lauren II says:

      I still wonder if this childish feud is about John Mayer and his legendary package. John douchified Katy & Taylor with his poison, and both of them are bitter, petty, and vindictive.

      How can a few backup dancers cause this much anger? There are thousands of unemployed backup dancers in the universe, and only One John Mayer.

  11. lightpurple says:

    When does their “frenemies” contract expire? This is not a good look for either of them.

  12. Sassback says:

    No, it’s not shade! Omg, Kara Brown, get over here!

    Anyway, I think Katy is basically the point that Taylor tried to turn her fans against her. Taylor and Katy share a demographic, which is tween girls. Little girls are very impressionable-I don’t blame Katy coming after Taylor even though it’s been awhile, because she really did her dirty.

  13. nemera77 says:

    It amazes me that grown women are getting involved in such childish drama. Really. Neither of them are teens. Hell in a few years they will be old enough to have daughters who are teens. Katy is already to be exact. So once again women are taking sides in silliness. I’m Team Taylor. I’m Team Katy. What exactly does that mean. What game are they playing. Who wins. And what do they win. They are singers. People that sings songs. Their audience is girls. Girls that watch the back and forth and participate and take that mess into adulthood. They both need to STOP. Make music that people can enjoy. You don’t have to like each other. That is not a requirement. But you can act like adults and stop acting less than children.

    • AnneC says:

      Exactly. We’ve got a 70 year old man running the country that insults and feuds with people continually. Don’t care about two entertainment multi millionaires beef with each other. Keep it to yourself and try to act like role models to the little girls you reference. We certainly need mature behavior, now more than ever.

  14. Vex says:

    lmaoooo I thought by ‘little girls’ she meant Taylor’s squad?!

    • teacakes says:

      That’s what I thought too – the Squad pretty much were Swifty’s flying monkeys but they came across as very “little girl” the entire time.

  15. iris west-allen says:

    Katy is such a loser.

    Her singles suck and now she can’t stop talking about Taylor?

  16. Jessi says:

    Well done to Swifty with the streaming services thing. Her old albums won’t get more streams than Katy’s, buy she is taking the spotlight out of her, and that’s how you clapback, with actions. I hope she embraces this side of her, instead of being always the victim. It has gotten old

    • Jaii says:

      This! I find this whole thing hilarious compared to the shit show of everything else going on in the world, and i want TSwift to embrace the petty , own it and be proud of it! And , I only wish Katy was up to bite back better than bloody swish swish rubbish

  17. FishBeard says:

    They’re both insufferable. But I give more respect to Katy, because Taylor used racism in attempt to smear a black man’s credibility and character. I hope no one forgets that.

    • Jaii says:

      Katy is no innocent in that department either. Both as bad as each other , but at least TSwift can still produce some songs you want to listen too.

      • Cherise says:

        Never heard a TSwift song that I want to listen to to the end. Ever. Not-a-one. But then again I am not a 12 year old suburban pop obsessed white girl either, so I am not her demo.

    • Luca76 says:

      Umm you do know Katy has been blasted lately for racism right? Both about a Obama joke and a former employee who exposed her ‘ways’?

      Anyway although I was Team Katy as far as I’m concerned these two can devour eachother for my entertainment because they are equally crappy people.

      • lameperson says:

        That stiff w/ Katy is just rumors and innuendos. But Swift legit, provably framed a black man for a sorta social ex crime! Truly malicious and diabolical. Racist too, but that’s almost secondary.

  18. wheneight says:

    I’m so here for Taylor releasing her old music on Katy’s album drop day. Great shade. I am really hoping she starts leaning into this shady boss version of herself going forward rather than going back to playing the victim.

    • kate says:

      Totally agree. I’m so here for Diabolical Taylor. I think I’ll go stream some 1989 right now and grab some popcorn.

  19. Alex says:

    I mean that is direct hit after hit. Taylor often requires loyalty from people and Katy is the antithesis of that (hence the backup dancer drama). I mean Taylor deserves it because I find her to be an awful person who plays nice nice for her idiot fans that think she’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
    But let’s be real the real winner is still Kim. Say what you want (I don’t like her) but she will defend her family.

    • Ennie says:

      defend for what? She might defend her man, but you cannot deny how misogynistic his work is, in relation to the women in his life and in general.
      I cannot stand these bozos, but particularly anything Kimye related.

      • Alex says:

        Defend her husband from a girl that blatantly lied about him? A girl that used two damaging narratives against Kanye so the public would believe her?
        Like I said I’m not a fan but I can respect defending your family against a liar and a wolf in sheeps clothing.

      • Millie says:

        @Ennie It is funny how people call Kanye out on his misogyny when Kim has benefited from it quite well because in case you weren’t familiar Kanye used misogynoir against black women to uphold all the other women who are supposedly better than us (Black men love to shit on black women when it upholds patriarchy). I do not ever see other races of women call out this specific misogynoir, in fact, they take it as reinforcement of their supposed superiority (seen it my whole life). Kim K acts the same, she does not like black women but she has no problem being with a self-hating black man or stealing from black culture. These types of pairs are a match made in heaven.

        But none of this negates that Taylor Swift didn’t also use the big mean black man narrative to paint herself as defenseless against his sexism. How come she can be the victim of his sexism but he can’t of her racism? People are acting like these things always have equal bearing and they do not.

        Yes, white women have suffered historically in America due to sexism but they could and can use their whiteness in this system against black men and women. To pretend otherwise or that this has changed…I suggest you read some Frantz Fanon.

  20. Ninks says:

    This morning I was laughing at how petty this whole thing is. Taylor is such a snake but I can’t feel any sympathy for Katy after learning she is still working with dr. Luke.

  21. akua says:

    Lol, what she last night was petty, oh well now I can add a few of her song to my Playlist. She won’t get more stream from her old album. But also dead at her getting the spotlight from katy. Now that is what I called her a SNAKE. Also let not forget Kary did the same to lady gaga.

  22. Keaton says:

    They are a little bit like Bette vs Joan aren’t they? lol Taylor reminds me of Joan: Obsessed with her image, overly devoted to her fans, borderline sociopathic. I guess that makes Katy the Bette? She’s not as talented as Bette but she shares some similarities: Earthier, but capable of being childish and petty.

  23. Fresh2death says:

    Taylor should record a cover of Mariah’s Obsessed song from a few years back. Katy, honey, your career is over. Stop calling out Taylor to stay relevant. You look beyond desperate.

    • WeAreAllMadeOfStars says:

      Umm….but Taylor wouldn’t even have a career if she didn’t make it off the backs of other people. Your funeral party is premature.

  24. serena says:

    So dramatic. Actually Perry and Swift are so petty and childish, they deserve each other.

  25. Skins says:

    Not a fan of either, but at least Swifty puts out a decent tune every once in a while. Katy’s stuff is so bad I can’t believe people buy it.

    • kate says:

      So true. Taylor’s early stuff was not my style at all and I’ve never bought a full album of hers but I will admit to having a few of her more recent singles on my itunes…but Katy’s? It’s just so bad that I am honestly confused.

    • WeAreAllMadeOfStars says:

      Katy Perry has had nine number ones in ten years time. She’s also the only artist other than Michael Jackson to have five number ones off the same album. Clearly millions of people like her.

      • Alex says:

        Okay those 5 #1 came off a re-released album. Not the same feat as MJ.
        But I agree with the rest

      • Erinn says:

        Even still – when it comes to Hot 100’s Most top ten singles from the same album – Katy has 6 (for her re-released album) and Taylor still has 5 – which is nothing to sneeze at, either. Taylor also holds the all-time record for most top 10 debuts on the Hot100.

        So really – it just depends on what you’re looking for. Neither of them have done poorly when it comes to the charts though they have different things they’re holding records for. Katy needs to pick it up though – because she hasn’t been able to replicate the kind of success she had around 2010. We’ll see how Taylor does though – she could easily be in the same spot as Katy with the next album.

  26. QueenB says:

    As much as I dont want to admit it but I honestly love how petty that streaming stunt was that Taylor pulled.

    But I also dont understand why she is doing it, I assumed she would try to reinvent her image at least a little bit.

  27. browniecakes says:

    Rolling Stone gave Katy’s album 3 of 5 stars. Both artists are under a lot of pressure with their new releases since their last albums were huge sellers. Taylor will be under the same scrutiny as Katy with her new stuff.

    • WeAreAllMadeOfStars says:

      Face it, both of them are out of their golden girl who can do no wrong stage. They are both at the point where the world has changed, the culture is at a different place, and consequently the schticks that made them famous have worn thin. What next? It’s a question that both will do well to ask.

    • GlenCoco says:

      well Katy seems to think: “what worked for Miley….”

  28. Katy has little girl fans too. I went to a concert a few years back and it was full of 10-15 year olds. Some even younger.

  29. Tallia says:

    Swifty and Katy – please go away. After watching Katy on the Ellen show, I need to know – what are you on, girl? YIKES.

  30. OhDear says:

    I don’t care for Katy Perry, but Swift’s streaming thing crossed the line to overly vindictive. Perry’s album wasn’t looking to do all that well, and it’s not as if people would remember what Perry said about her by the end of the year anyway. Swift could have just reveled in the schadenfreude of that. But no, she went ahead to try to sabotage sales.

    • wolfpup says:

      Taylor is “overly vindictive” and she should be ashamed.

    • jetlagged says:

      I’ve been firmly Team No One while watching these two try to out-petty each other, but TayTay’s streaming stunt really did cross a line. It passes petty without even slowing down and rams full speed into straight-up vindictive sabotage. Terms like narcissist and sociopath are thrown around far too much in gossip-land, but I’m starting to think that in Taylor’s case they might be accurate. The girl is scary, and that is not a compliment.

    • GlenCoco says:

      are you aware that Katy did the same thing to Lady GaGa?
      plus Taylor’s old music will probably not influence Katy’s streams, since it’s just old music

      • jetlagged says:

        Did she really? That sucks. Do you have a link to any press coverage of it? I couldn’t find any when I did a quick Google search, but maybe I didn’t look in the right place.

        Katy will still get the same number of listens, but Taylor’s music will get played a lot, which will prevent Katy’s songs from charting anywhere near as high as you would normally expect from new releases. Swift also marked down the price of all her albums on iTunes, so everyone looking for a bargain will flock to buy, again blocking Katy’s album from the charts. Looks like TayTay is still intent on keeping this feud alive.

  31. jugil1 says:

    Both of these WOMEN are so immature. Grow up! Katy is 32 years old for FFS.

  32. QQ says:


    JUST.Collect.ALL. Your. B*ckys MY F*CKING GOD, are these supposed to be Adult *ss women?? Fr!?!? Fussing publicly about “dancers” (the limp d*ck Hemophiliac looking dude they both porked to poor results?) STOP IT STOP IT ALREADY!

    • Cherise says:

      I know right. Becky feuds are so boring. If they must do this in public at least be entertaining.

      • Stacey Dresden says:

        Right. If they don’t do a televised Celebrity amateur MMA fight, consider me not interested.

  33. Madly says:

    The snake strikes again….with old pretend boyfriend routine and old music. WHile Katy is more direct with the juice. Piss off snake.

  34. Loo says:

    I am so sick of hearing Katy talk about Taylor for publicity. This feud is the opposite of interesting.

  35. Madly says:

    I am laughing at all the snake stans who think TS is winning here. Neither of them are winning. And so much for the narrative that the snake is above this feud and Katy should have responded years ago. The snake just responded to the feud herself and is clearly intent on keeping it going. Your queen bee is no queen.

    • Scout says:

      LoL, right? This is such a bad look for TayTay, she continues to make terrible PR decisions.

    • jetlagged says:

      Taylor has had so many chances to take the high road, and every single time she takes a sharp left onto Petty Parkway.

      She’ll still sell records and pack arenas for the inevitable concert tour (her stans love this kind of drama), but I hope the extra digits added to her net worth give her comfort when everyone in the industry who isn’t on her payroll will have nothing to do with her, and any potential romantic partner who has a shred of common sense runs in the opposite direction.

  36. tw says:

    Taylor Swift is neck and neck with Goop for the prize of worst, most insufferable celebrity.

  37. paranormalgirl says:

    Let it go already. Femspawn weighed in on it and said “really? REALLY? She’s still going on about this? If Taylor Swifts starts up again, I’m seriously gonna lose my shit. This feud has made me dislike BOTH of them immensely.” Femspawn is wise.

  38. OhDear says:

    [Obligatory “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women” comment here]

  39. sara says:

    poor katy… I almost feel sorry for her.

  40. Saks says:

    I like Taylor better but I used to like katy’s music (like teenage dreams album is full of great bops) yet her new album is… interesting?… Anyway, I think Katy has taken this feud thing too far recently in the sense that nobody is talking about her music but just about that feud. And sorry, but I find hilarious/brilliant Taylor’s move, she was a tt worldwide yesterday

  41. Mary says:

    Katy has spent almost her entire press tour for this album talking about Taylor, which is unfortunate, because it makes her look as petty as Taylor. She knows this is what will get her headlines and she is using it just like Taylor uses all her silly crap. These women are how old and they are saying things like, she started it. I crack up laughing every time because it’s so silly. Now listen, Taylor is a PR machine and is as fake and petty as they come but I call bullcrap on Katy talking about her reputation to little girls. Katy has said some horrible, racist, and down right bullying remarks about people. She also claims she wants all of this to end but will not stop talking about it and decided her first song off her new album should be the one about Taylor. You don’t think that was a calculated move? Thsese women know how to play the game. If Taylor writes another song about this she will one up Katy as the bigger loser in this situation. These women need to grow up because right now they both suck!

  42. Happy21 says:

    When the whole thing came down and it was said Bad Blood was about Katy stealing her back up dancers, etc I thought TS was being so immature and childish that I couldn’t like the song no matter how much I loved 1989. That being said, it’s been almost 2 years since 1989 dropped (or has it been almost 3?) and now Katy is using every opportunity to go on and on and on about it ad nauseum, I’d have to think that she is just as immature, if not more than TS. They are both grown ass women and one of them have to take the high road STFU about it!

  43. LMB says:

    Are they still in high school?

  44. hogtowngooner says:

    All this childish nonsense over backup dancers?? These two are beyond ridiculous now. While I believe they don’t like each other, I suspect this is now purely for PR since they’re both getting column inches out of it.

  45. hannah89 says:

    both of them are cancelled. both of them are brutally immature.

  46. MiniMii says:

    As soon as I saw the headline for this I had a visual of these two in their 90s, sitting on the front porch of the old age home, poking each other with their canes.

  47. Heather says:

    Oh, please. Katy waited until her album release to talk about all this- THAT IS USING the dispute for publicity. It’s not debatable. That said, who cares? Both are acting petty in this. I will say though, that it is the fact that TAylor put her back catalogue on Spotify etc. that is one of the headlines running on he banner of MSNBC, not the release of Katy’s new album.

  48. Bee says:

    If it’s wrong to wish for Taylor’s album also to bomb so we can be rid of the both of them, then I don’t want to be right. This whole feud is pathetic.

  49. nair waldorf says:

    This is supposed to be a pinnacle of pretense. Like it’s an inside joke. It’s the start of the RIddler from Batman or something infiltrating Hollywood, that is if they come up with stuff. It’s been stale.

  50. debra says:

    she assassinated her own character with little girls making a heinous video of her nude and being cooked like some creepy occult thing. and then eating people in the end. that video was beyond gross

  51. Indo says:

    Haha. You are one bitter woman. Your life must suck a lot right now. Got tired of Aniston
    New target: Swifty