ET Online has some quotes from a source close to Jennifer Garner, and I knew she would do this. I knew she (her PR team) would go to some of her preferred secondary outlets to give more quotes reinforcing her position as the dedicated co-parenting mom. To be clear I don’t blame her for this. She’s been working for years to keep her family together and while I do think she’s codependent and that she’s enabled Ben for years, I understand her side more than I understand his. He’s a user, Garner has been on this roller coaster ride with him for years, and I imagine he charms the sh-t out of women when he needs to. All that said, I see how these two lasted as long as they did because they definitely have the same drive to keep up appearances. (Although I’m baffled by Ben’s recent moves to go public with his “new” relationship, unless he got caught and is rolling with it, and/or trying to stick it to Jen.) Anyway here are the quotes from ET. Some of them were published earlier and ET is just rehashing them, but they’re new to me and are in a new story about how Jen is avoiding drama. They also have new-sounding quotes about how she loves going to the gym.
“Ben and Jen are both young, they won’t close the door on dating. It’s really nice how civil they have both been able to be during all of this,” the source said. “Ben and Jen are two people who care deeply for their respective families. That dedication will continue.”
Garner’s endorphins must be doing the trick, as she was spotted hitting the gym four times last week.
A source told ET that the actress is a regular at Body by Simone, and while she usually takes private sessions, she recently attended a group class and worked out in the front row.
“[Garner is] positive, friendly, confident and really into the workout,” the source revealed, adding that the mother of three isn’t afraid to ask questions, and is almost always makeup-free when arriving to class.
I mentioned yesterday that I love the workouts online from Simone De La Rue, Garner’s trainer. I just checked the website for her studio and classes cost $25 a piece, which I guess is about the same as those expensive Soulcycle classes but damn. I digress, but good for Garner for busting her butt at the gym to stay sane. That really works for me too.
After I wrote all that, Kaiser pointed me to this newer story in People Magazine, all about Ben’s relationship with Lindsay Shookus. It’s like Ben and Jen are competing to see who can get their side of the story out, and it’s all passive aggressive bullsh-t. What a toxic relationship they must have. Here’s Ben’s side (or maybe Shookus’s side, more on that in a moment):
One source tells PEOPLE Shookus isn’t one to be fazed by all the drama.
“She isn’t someone who would have been reckless. She’s really down to earth and centered,” says the source. “[The relationship] has got to be something that she felt was worth risking a lot for.”
Another insider has said Shookus’ marriage “didn’t end over infidelity,” and this source echoes that: “The impression I always got was that she and her husband had been unhappy for a while” by the time they split in 2014. “It was clear she was heartbroken about it and that she felt tremendous regret that things couldn’t be worked out…
“She’s just not the kind of girl who is likely to have her head turned by fame,” says the first source of Shookus. “She’s come into contact with people more famous than Ben.”
Adds the source, “She isn’t someone who does things without thinking them through.”
Given that People had quotes from Shookus’s side yesterday (the “Jennifer and Lindsay do not have any relationship” response to the story that Jen confronted Lindsay about the affair) do you think this story is straight from Shookus? Do you think she’s talking to People? Because if so, maybe she forced Affleck’s hand after dealing with his promises and lies for three years. Maybe she arranged for the two of them to get papped last week and maybe she’s calling his bluff and setting herself up as the replacement. Those happy family photos of Ben on the fourth of July had JUST come out, remember? Think about it, the affair for three years stories, all the glowing quotes about how cool she is and what a great friend she is. Read those quotes about her, she felt the relationship was “worth risking a lot for.” Maybe she planned all this. I’m not saying Ben’s not an a-hole cheater, but I don’t see him leaving his marriage or making any changes in that department unless he was forced. He had a nice situation set up and he kept testing Jen’s boundaries and she kept taking it. Maybe he finally met his match in Shookus. This is about to get good.
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they look like brother and sister imo.
they have the same creeptastic smile. *shudders*
Isn’t that like a thing? Narcissistic people tend to be in relationships with people who look like them.? I remember pics of kelly Rutherford and her ex husband..they looked like they could’ve been twins
Totally not on topic. But what happened to Kelly Rutherford? Did they throw a gag order on her?
She lost custody after kidnapping and refusing to return their children. They live in Monaco with their dad and she can visit. He was paying for 6 trips a year, but in the last court case in France, where she lost custody, the judge dropped that requirement because she wasn’t using them. He was paying $3 grand a month in nominal child support so she could have them on school breaks, which also got cut to $1 grand. He has a place in Monaco that she uses when she goes there to see them. She gets 50/50 when it comes to schools and doctors. She’s keeping a very low profile because she lost her case and apparently narcissists have a real problem with losing face.
Studies show that people are attracted to others who look like them (all of us, not narcissists specifically).
This is such a jerk thing to say, but I can’t unseen it – in the pic of her at the airport her face looks like Kevin bacon. I’m not even trying to be bitchy, it just really, really does to me.
Kevin Bacon X Brooklyn Decker.
Omg you’re so right on.
@green, OMG! Yes, Brooklyn Decker!!!!!!!!
Seriously? Worth it? What could possibly come out of this?
Times like these I’m reminded of a quote from Mad Men: ” “I hope she knows you only like the beginning of things.” Seems to suit Batfleck pretty well here…
That’s right. Who would even speak against themselves and their stupid actions? Of course they would believe it’s ‘worth it’, they’re the only ones they have in their corner. If they didn’t believe in it, what would be the point of this whole circus. That quote just shows how stupid cheaters are, it’s like a shared script to those kind of people!
I love MM, and as much as I hate to trivialize by comparing Real Life to fiction, these have been MTE.
YAASSS!!! I love that quote. She hit the nail exactly on the head. I was always a little disappointed in Dr. Miller for hooking up with Don. That being said it’s hard to resist Don Draper/a John Hamm!!
Excellent and very on point quote (I loved poor used Dr. Faye). I love how Kneepads and their PR conduits are working overtime to make Shookus look pure and tragic, and not at all like a cheesy ho. Please. She was married, Affleck was married – they cheated on their spouses. End of story. Well, not exactly – Affleck will be cheating on her ass soon enough, if he hasn’t already. If she’s fine with that, cool. If not, she’s just inherited Garner’s life.
On a different note: how effectively do you think Garner is going to block Shookus from being around the Affleck kids? Because you know she will (and I don’t blame her).
@maisie, whether or not Shookus is really why, Jen won’t need her as reason to keep the kids away – if Ben’s obviously fallen off the wagon already…
By choosing Shookus and Vegas (hey, that goes together!) and doing a 180 WTF on his rehab, I fear Ben IS making his choice, and it’s a very sad one indeed.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is a potential career upgrade for her. She’s worked for SNL since college? So that is like for 17 plus years. Wonder if she’ll go into business with her own production company or something, with Ben’s backing / financial support.
Matt Damon please come sort out your friend lol they are so polar opposite
Highly suspect they’re not as different as you think.
Yep. Lots of blinds everywhere on how Damon has been living an “experimental” life outside of his marriage.
His wife is old school Latina, and they know how to turn a blind eye to the, er, wanderings of their husbands, especially if they want to preserve their lifestyles and access to money.
Maisie, stereotyping much?
Agreed. Damon and Affleck aren’t that different. Only difference is that Damon isn’t as messy and he has tried desperately to look more like Clooney in terms of political and charitable actions, and having his life together. Damon’s wife is living the fairy tale as a former bartender with kids from a former marriage, who miraculously met and married a multimillionaire A-list celebrity. She’ll rock the boat less than Jennifer Garner ever did. At least Garner has a career and millions of her own money. Unless Damon’s wife is planning to bleed Damon dry in divorce proceedings, her best move is to turn a blind eye to anything Damon does in that marriage and enjoy her life of luxury.
But hadn’t they already filed in April? So he did ‘leave his marriage’ I just I don’t know. Ben is awful and she’s deluded if she thinks he’s changed but I can’t blame her for not wanting to be in the shadows 2 years after a separation was announced. Especially if she left her husband for him.
She wanted to get promoted to the ‘official’ girlfriend, never mind who else he has on the string. And Ben will go along with that for now. Garner needs to find herself a Dot com or VC billionaire to square this particular circle. I can see the headlines now, “After years of heartbreak with Cheating Ben, Jen finds love again.” You know it’s coming, she’s doesn’t like being alone anymore than he does.
I think that would be too predictable and look false because of it. Jen is more creative than that I think.
I think she’ll go for an academic ‘professor’ type with subtle shade about going for brains this time
@Tia – Doubting that since Jen “worshipped Ben’s brain.” There was even a blind at one point about her taking more classes to be sure he found her interesting and she could keep up with him intellectually.
This is all fine in my book. These people are the same! This woman is playing SAME game Garner did, except Garner got pregnant to lock Ben down. I remember it because of how Garner treated Foley. Ugh. They’re all trash.
I get that view. Wanting to be publicly acknowledged. My problem with them is how clumsy this is. I googled videos of these two just to read their chemistry and stumbled on an X17 pap video from their dinner date the other day. They were sitted AT the full length window next to the street. Basically the only thing between them and the paps was a thin sheet of glass and a camera lens.And they were play acting the most animated dinner conversation you ever saw. It’s just so thirsty and clumsy. No wonder this roll out has backfired on them.
totally not surprised to hear that. they’re flaunting it but I suspect for different reasons.
”a relationship with Ben Affleck she felt was worth risking a lot for.”
yeah namely an STD
I really wonder what is so great about him that she was willing to sit on the sidelines and take whatever she could get for 3 years and now want a relationship with him. He’s so gross.
A-list movie star/oscar winning director.
she says how she’s “come into contact with people more famous than Ben”, which I believe as she worked on SNL and they’ve had HUGE stars on that…but she wasn’t having an affair with them and isn’t now in relationship with them.
sure, she “came into contact” with them, but now she’s intimate with one, which is a better “move up the ladder” strategy.
ETA: full disclosure, I agree with your “gross” assessment.
I get the feeling that she wasn’t waiting on anything – she’s on SNL, they’re known for partying. I think something happened and they knew the story was gonna break and that this public relationship is just as much of a PR whitewash for her as it is for him.
He’s famous. She’s a not very attractive, old for Hollywood, lowly television writer who NO ONE knew before this outing. This isn’t hard to figure out.
Actually, she and the nanny have a lot in common, except for their age and relative attractiveness.
@doofus I agree I think there is a career move aspect to it—not that its the driving force for the relationship, but a nice perk for her if she hung in there long enough
LMFAO!!!
I don’t know how this is a “career move” for her. She is not trying to be an actress. And while Jennifer Garner gets steady work; her being married to Ben didn’t get her any big time acting jobs. She is in an industry that works behind the camera. She scouts for talent and works on a very popular and famous TV show. She has won awards and as some said will probably be nominated again. I just don’t know what being with Ben is suppose to give her; outside of a headache.
I see it as more a possible career move not in terms of acting, but in terms of partnering up with Ben to do what they are both involved in –directing/producing entertainment whether it is TV, film, music. Shookus is absolutely very successful and accomplished in her field but this could open up a whole other dimension to her if she is partnering with an Oscar winning director/famous actor. She wouldn’t be tied to the SNL location or schedule and the financial renumeration for her producing talents would obviously be much more.
Don’t think this is necessarily the top motivator for the relationship–but it could be a factor. Time will tell if she sticks with working at SNL.
The only thing I can figure is that Ben dickmatizes his women. Charm wears off after awhile.
As I said yesterday this relationship and/or Ben will crash and burn spectacularly and Ben isn’t going to have anyone to clean it up. Jen is a PR pro and has been saving and covering Ben’s ass for years. She will move on and find someone else and when Ben spirals too far out of control I don’t think she’s going to be there to smooth things over for him.
I doubt this new piece is going to stick around when things get to be too much. She couldn’t say anything before because she was the side chick, but now she’s the official and I don’t see her covering for him and letting things slide forever like Jen did.
CO-sign all of this and it will be glorious!
+1 Am looking forward to every bit of it.
I don’t really follow what she does, but has Jen been photographed out on a date? She’s a mom, not a nun, and they’ve been separated for years now.
Yep I agree with all this. Ben is an idiot. Garner is better at this because she’s been playing this game all these years. Ben didn’t have to do anything except stay with her. He’s in for a sad wake up call.
I think Lindsay is seeing/hearing how people are comparing her to Jen as being PR savy and she wants everyone to know she is not a wallflower that just will stand around. Obviously, she is not a pushover. She did what she wanted and broke up a family.
This looks very pathetic on her part! Don’t people realize less is more!
Tay and Hiddles at this time last year was so fun to watch from their thirst. These two… just as thirsty… but it is so all around sad and pathetic with his kids and known addictions involved.
I honestly didn’t really care from the beginning; stay together/get divorced whatever. This whole thing is really dysfunctional. I mean he’s poking any female who comes near, and she’s SuperMom the Victim. Good Lord enough already. The last thing I want to hear about is a Third Party to this mess. Divorce and move on and stop “leaking” petty crap about each other.
Continuous dedication to their “respective families”? Which families?
I can totally understand they will continue to dedicate themselves as parents to their children.
Yeah, I was wondering about that, too.
Ben once said he needs a woman to break up with him because he won’t do it himself. He just behaves terribly til he’s finally dumped. It’s pathetic and pathological, but we saw it with Gwyneth, we saw it with J.Lo, we’ve seen it with Jen. It’s his pattern.
Problem was Jen was willing to ride just about anything out. Drug abuse, whatever. Spending all his free time gambling, cool. Screwing his co-stars, eh. Even banging the nanny didn’t get her to cut the cord.
So now he’s going very public with the long-time other woman. This isn’t a power play by Shookus, it’s Ben trying to end things with Jen for good, by forcing her into a position where she’d look absolutely insane to keep clinging on.
Exactly this!!!!times a bajillion…except who knows if Shookus gets that’s she’s being used by this man baby.
+1, Jeesie
This, exactly this. People seem to forget that this is Ben’s M.O.
To be fair, we’ve had like a decade to forget since he’s been with Garner, but still. He’s never changed- will never change.
After he soured on JLo, he very publicly and sloppily went to a stripclub to GET her to break off the engagement for him
God, he’s horrible.
Yup, THIS 100%. He was absolutely no different with Garner than with JLo, Goop and probably others before that. The only difference is that Jennifer Garner was the only one who had such an infatuation with Ben from the start that she pursued him doggedly, and then stayed, covered and fixed things for him through that kind of treatment – for 12 years no less. She didn’t leave him, even after Lindsay, even after the nanny. She was still ambivalent about the divorce per TMZ, right up until they filed – and probably even now. Ben forced the divorce because he wouldn’t stop seeing Lindsay, so Garner had no choice but to accept it this time. I’m not saying Ben’s not a mess and that Ben and Lindsay will last. He is, and they probably won’t – I’m just saying I don’t think this final split was Jen’s idea.
I’ve always said, Ben and Jen were destined to be the ones to make it way further than he did with Goop or JLo, only because of their mix of personalities. Ben’s a passive aggressive coward who wouldn’t leave due to PR and guilt, even though he wanted to, and Jen made it really hard for him to leave with her southern, “stand by your man,” “I’ll never leave you” mentality. I also think to a degree she liked thinking she was the “special” one, his true love, the fixer – the one who was eventually going to change him. Well, that didn’t happen.
Yeah. This.
ITA, I don’t think Shookuss called the paps to force him to go public because he looks way too happy and smiley in the pics.
I’m here for more glorious gossip that will for sure come!
He’s as high as a kite = he looks way too happy and smiley in the pics.
Jen Garner had kids with Affleck. I can kind of see why she’d be more willing than J-Lo or Gwyneth to work things out with him, even if he is a total dog.
She was also on her second marriage with Affleck. Maybe she was reluctant to be a twice-divorcee by the age of 38 or 40 whatever.
Again, I think he’s a total dog, but I can the reasons for why she was determined to make it work. I suspect there are times she felt foolish being with him, but I wonder how much age, kids, and the idea of a second divorce factored into her dogged determination to make things work.
This new lady also looks a bit cocky. I’d probably want to work things out with Ben just to stick it to this lady’s annoying grin (just like Diana wanted to stick it to Camilla, even though it probably wasn’t worth it). Some people are kind of annoying to look at — this new lady looks like one of them. I actually find the nanny somewhat more tolerable.
@perplexed – I totally see your point, except she already knew full well what she was dealing with as soon as they were married (and really, before, since he was fresh off an engagement and strippergate when she started dating him.) I remember seeing a quote after they split in 2015, clearly from her camp, that said something along the lines of, “Jen was attracted to the bad boy side of Ben, but she learned very soon after marrying him that it was going to be a lot of work.” So, yeah, she got pregnant with one child. Fine. But then she continued to have two more – it’s widely known he was absent all the time after Sera’s birth (he went to D.C. immediately after), he was in Africa when she filed suit against a stalker (2008/2009), his rumored infidelities began very early on (2007/2008), Blake Lively was in 2010, apparently someone on the set of Into the Wonder, and more. So … after the first child was born in 2005, there’s no question she knew what she was dealing with, but it seems she was determined to stay Mrs. Ben Affleck no matter what.
@JoJo, it is troubling to me in so many comments the subtle shift of blame that goes to the women in the Ben scenarios (as well as the Pitt/Jolie, Amber/Depp) and I see it a lot from you (not only you, but you comment here often, so I see it consistently from you). I don’t know if you are even aware of how it comes through. It’s like, yes, Ben has problems, BUT Jennifer…. There always seems to be a BUT Jennifer in your comments. She’s not perfect, of course not, and would probably like to go back and change some of her choices, but is it necessary to always end with that? Can we not sometimes just let Ben’s problems be HIS problems and let HIM be solely accountable for HIS choices?
I mean no disrespect to you, at all. I am just hoping to bring awareness to the subtleties of how women make it so hard on other women, and continue the message that “boys will be boys,” but women are absolutely accountable.
@Learningthesystem – Thanks, and I appreciate you being respectful. I do understand your view. My comments have nothing to do with gender. If the situation were reversed, and it was a woman in Ben’s place, I’d say the same about the man in Jennifer’s place. I’ve been in a similar position to Jen, and so has my mom (while I was growing up.) While my mom didn’t say this at the time, with hindsight, today, she’s the first to say, “You know what, I was half of the problem.”
What I find interesting here though is that so many who are offended by the “But Jen stayed” comments are now doing the exact same thing to Lindsay. I’m not here to say Lindsay is good or bad. I have no clue. None of us know whether they cheated (although I think we can bank on the fact that they did), but we definitely don’t know what the timeline really was, whether Lindsay is a bad mother or good mother, whether she is enabling Ben’s addictions, whether she is now somehow the puppetmaster of all of this PR. But this commenting feeding frenzy is more than happy to create and feed that narrative. It’s amazing what can be pulled out of nothing. “She smiled. She must be smug! I know what happened. She forced Ben into announcing their relationship! Well, she’ll get hers!” All completely made up scenarios that will now build on themselves based on absolutely no evidence. Yet we, as women, are more than happy to string her up and nail her to the cross. I find that to be a strange contradiction.
@learningthesystem
+10000
The ‘Ben is an asshole BUT Jennifer…’ comments are so transparent. It is so engrained in our culture to hold a woman responsible for her husband’s failings.
I’ve said this before but if the genders were reversed and Jennifer was the train wreck, Jennifer would not be afforded the same type of leniency Ben is.
+1 @perplexed and @learningthesystem Gotta let Ben’s problems be HIS problems (and this comes from a long-time fan of his, although the last decade or so he makes it impossible). I’m not a Jen fan. Never was. Never will be. But I empathize with her situation. And based on her Vanity Fair interview way back when, I do believe that on some level, she knows she’s part of the problem. But she’s also an actress so I wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t have the self-awareness to own up to 50% of the problem, but I could be wrong. It’s interesting to see women attacking other women or finding excuses or reasons why the men are such d!cks. Although I do think Shookus deserves heat for this because clearly, based on what’s been reported, she’s got about the same level of character as Ben. Wondering if her ex will speak out at all or how he feels about this “cool girl” messaging Ben’s PR is pushing so heavily (again – where there’s smoke there’s fire).
I think Ben is also trying to end it w/Shookus by seeing how much she can take…
Not just of the PR backlash from Jen and the public, but of his drinking/drugging/gambling. By the way People mentions a trip to Vegas in their first public weekend together as if it’s no big deal, he’s clearly relapsed and doesn’t appear to GAF about anything now except sticking it to Jen.
Does anyone see chemistry or romance here w/Shookus? And is it worth risking their relationships w/their kids? (Err, I mean, “respective families”…)
p.s. My autocorrect keeps changing her name to Shook Us. She sure did!
One thing I wonder about is why does Ben want to stick it to Jen. Is it because she finally let go? Because other than that what does he have to be resentful about, that she never left? Well, he never left either.
I just dont understand why Jen gets so much more blame than Ben. It bugs me because I feel like it’s because she’s a woman. Because regardless of the fact she knew he was a pig, he’s still the pig.
@Elle
LOL. Yep, especially with the lull in gossip as of late.
No, Jen wouldn’t let go, Ben couldn’t make the break himself, and their love was unbalanced.
There are articles on this dynamic which I could post here, but not enough room on this thread to psychoanalyze either of them. No need, there’s also plenty here on CB (and everywhere else) over at least the last ten years or more.
Bottom line: Ben’s a leo, Jen’s an aries, and the two can be controlling and competitive, which does not a happy marriage make. Also, his heavy-ass saturn sits on all her planets, or something like that.
Sorry, that’s all I got! (*runs away and hides*)
Ugh this blame the woman thing …. it’s not that, speaking for myself. In my book, Garner is a cruel cheating jerk too. Scott Foley shaved his head after what Garner did….. she was horrid. If she were male I’d be as hard on her. Ben is an idiot but so is Garner. I think they’re all stupid awful jerks. Even across the board. 👍
@elle +1 Interesting POV and I agree. He’s such a pansy.
Every part of this comment is spot on. And imo, the main purpose of this roll out is not so much about his future as it is about shaking off the past. He’s not just trying to shake Jen off, he is breaking that last twig of hope that she has been clinging to and throwing it as far as he can.
Have you ever noticed that when you try to throw a twig, it doesn’t go very far? Yeah, I think that’s what’s happening here, too.
In fact, that twig is only 2 miles down the street in B’wood/PacPal – and just the next passive-aggressive US Weekly or People update away.
THIS! Totally. And Shookus will milk whatever she can until he hangs her out to dry, too.
I’m just really side eyeing this “cool relaxed chick” vibe they keep pushing.
I bet She is ok with gambling/cheating/drug/
“Another insider has said Shookus’ marriage “didn’t end over infidelity,” and this source echoes that: “The impression I always got was that she and her husband had been unhappy for a while”
Jesus. Do she and Jesse Williams have the same “sources”? I can’t imagine anyone believing this for even a hot moment, it’s such transparent garbage dumpster lies.
Yep. Surprisingly, spouses become “unhappy” when they realize you have been or are trying to share your genitals with other people. Also, when a spouse doesn’t just roll over and say “happy for you and your new piece” it has the dreaded effect of making things uncomfortable during the divorce and this seems to be a rule whether famous or not! Those damnable, irritating spouses, why can’t they just let you be you, a happier, better-sexed you?!
brilliantly written 🙂
@Tulip I just died laughing. Thank you, girl.
Tulip-this is the most relatable comment i have read in years. Sharihg genitals has become an epidemic. I guess i am a prude.
@Tulip Garden LMFAO!!! Oh, I needed that laugh. Respect to your use of the word “genitals.” Hysterical.
LMAO!! By the end of their relationship she’s going to be fighting off all types of STDs.
The best way for Jen to win the PR war between her and Ben is to get back into acting finds some small quality roles or get back on TV. She’s more of a tv actress to me so that route she should go. Let Ben self destruct over there.
“Maybe she arranged for the two of them to get papped last week and maybe she’s calling his bluff and setting herself up as the replacement.”
just like LeAnn Rimes. and we all see how that’s going.
My impression is this woman (LS) is not a wallflower. She will not sit around while JG runs circles around her.
This is going to get messier and messier.
For sure, she is ambitious to climb higher the social ladder. We all know how much those SNL producers make. Not as much as what JLO, JG and Goop have made PRE Ben. With Ben, it will open more doors for her. She can probably run Ben’s production company. Kick out Jennifer Todd out of the way. She will most likely control that side of his business. Hence, LA home based. This woman is thirsty and arrogant. There is nothing endearing about her. She forced Ben to take her out of the shadow. Good luck!
@Ana To echo your point, Glassdoor tells me that the approximate salary for a producer at NBC Universal is around $80k as a base with about $15-20k in bonus. The peak salary hits at about $158k. She is FOR SURE looking to climb the professional and social ladder via messy Ben. He’s using her to say goodbye to his past (and eventually to her seeing as though she IS a part of his past) and she’s using him to get further in her entertainment career.
It seems it will. I don’t really get what the war is over.
I don’t know. Not a wallflower but likely just another doormat…if they’ve really been at it since 2013 we are forgetting Nannygate. So this strong, risk it all producer chick is still around after being the side piece for several years AND knowing he screwed a twenty-something nanny (and who knows how many others) in addition to her while “staying with his wife for the kids or whatever”. She seems like a bit of a doormat and idiot.
Women used to get criticised for leaving a marriage. Now they get criticised for not leaving a marriage. Different times, same old judgement.
Eventually she’ll get bored and disillusioned, and she’ll fake her own kidnapping/murder and leave clues for the intrepid police detectives, who will focus on Ben Affleck and his suspect smarminess. Or something like that.
Teeheee! Question is: Will she get pregnant?! Dun,dun,dun
@Surely shall we hide the corkscrew now or display it in the meantime? hehehehe
There is something about the name Jennifer that makes the press go on attack mode. He was banging his children’s nanny, while this blonde was waiting outside for her turn. He is a shitty person. Maybe Jennifer wasn’t a perfect wife to him, in fact, I hope she wasn’t. After all the humiliation she has suffered through and tried to be a good mother to his kids, I don’t care if she leaks like a bad faucet. This man is such a tool, he even ruined Batman. Creep
Same.
It won’t be worth it when he gets bored of her too.
If he has to go to Vegas in only the first weekend of the big relationship PR rollout, he’s already bored.
@elle +1 read my mind.
That’s the thing. He’s a thrill seeker and an addict (two of the WORST attributes a lover/spouse can have) – always looking for the next high and always getting bored with something/someone.
I believe she had a lot to risk. I believe he didn’t – wasn’t he shagging the nanny (and god knows who else) as well at the time? Lindsay was the side piece, made legit because Ben can’t be alone. No one would even know her name if Crissy O hadn’t taken that private jet to Vegas.
Lindsay, you do NOT mess around with Amazing Amy, sorry Jen. This woman will bury your reputation and you will be forever known as the other woman to that a drug addict. Plus, the american public has a love affair for cheated on Jennifers (the white ones at least).
The article says she has a place of her own in LA. I wonder if that is the place he was photographed coming out of in wet hair? Also, the article is titled “Ben Affleck Relationship Was Worth Risking a Lot” – that in itself speaks volumes. On what planet is starting a relationship with him worth risking anything?
That’s what I was thinking. The tabs gave him/them a pass or held back and said only he was staying w/a “friend”, why was that…
It also speaks volumes in terms of: If they’re in a “new” romance, no affair, what is she really risking (career, reputation…or relationship w/her daughter?)
Everyday is something else, but it’s only been five days. And w/each People defense of Lindsay, they keep digging themselves in deeper.
Aha. Ahaha hahahahahahahahaha.
This new lady’s fashion sense is even worse than Jennifer Garner’s. At least Garner looks clean.
This is not who I figured Ben Affleck would go for to get out of his marriage.
Lol! This one looks a mess.
They both do. He looks puffy, bloated and out of it.
I have a theory that she may have substance issues, too. Water seeks its own level and all.
Gotta hand it to Jen, she’s never looked better.
I do think Lindsey is now calling the shots. He needs someone to take care of him. All of his public women have been very strong. That says a lot about him. But His allegeged secret involvement with strippers and hookers says more IMO. I am not a psychologist, but that generally seems to be a way for a man to show the strong woman what he thinks of her-like punishing her for “controlling” him? Mommy issues? This would no doubt have been something learned from watching how a drunk dad treated his mom. That’s not a new concept and I’ve seen it play out in others. I’m putting this out for discussion, not diagnosing anything.
I see where you are coming from. I have a background in human development and I guess that is why this story has always fascinated me. Everyone agrees he is a mess but the women in his life are the ones who get the most criticism. Somehow it always ends up on them. Ben is a father of 3 young children, newly out of a marriage, and rehab. How can he possibly be emotionally available to contribute to a relationship? He must make his therapists crazy. So often when he talks he speaks in “therapist language”, Jennifer does too. Does he not heed anyone’s counsel?
BTW – still wondering about the car service.
Just my thoughts, but I think that was a WB thing. They can’t afford for Batman to risk any behind the wheel incidents. But who knows…maybe not.
Just my 2-cents…I’ve noticed the women also throw shade at each other. Maybe he/they thrive on that tension/push-pull.
And that “risking a lot” comment is interesting…coming from a known addict and high-stakes gambler. So maybe he requires this in his relationships.
Yeah I’m appreciating all your comments here. Sounds good to me. Makes a lot of sense.
If Ben needs looking after, I think those needs are best met by a housekeeper. Ben is an impulsive, gambling womanizer and he likes it that way – married or not, involved or not.
i totally doubt he’s made any serious attempt at therapy. That smile is relief that he can be himself.
Does anyone think if you block out her hair and just look at her face, she’s the double of Matt Damon?
yeah just a few people al around the world “i’m f**kin matt damon”
Let’s see how this plays out now that it’s out in the open. Ben could lose interest as that’s been his pattern in the past.
He won’t lose interest publically. This relationship is convenient and suits his needs for now and upcoming events.
He looks like he’s already lost interest, and now he’s just testing her.
Jen looks good in that top photo. Almost like a 200 pound weight was off her back.
It is amazing how people delude themselves “for love”. The nanny incident was more a shout out to Lindsay than Jen who has seen this all before. Get in line to be the sidepiece of the sidepiece…
Why is he all sweaty and gross?
downgrade.
srsly.
she looks like an overgrown frat-chick.
And BA would still rather be with her than JG. If that doesn’t tell Jen to move on, I don’t know what will. End it!
But it is already ending, the divorce will be officially final in two months.
Ana, will we see Garner out and about then? As I said upthread she’s a mom not a nun. They’ve been separated for years.
Ben affleck is not an upgrade either. He has the same body type as the dad from the incredibles. Big chest and shoulders and tiny ass and short legs. Garner and shookus should be able to do better. Don’t forget he’s also an addict and a cheater.
The Nanny wasn’t exactly a stunning goddess. Lindsay is fine looking. I am not going to tear apart a woman’s looks because of Ben Affleck. Cheating isn’t about looks. Cheating is about the excitement of a new bed partner and getting away with it. He doesn’t want JG. Period. Lindsay didn’t make him this way or pull him out of a happy family. Ben is the villain in this scenario and no one else.
She has a part of it. If you have a set of basic moral values, no matter how small, you will not participate. It was her choice and so, she is part of the equation. She saw a bigger meal ticket. #eyeontheprize
magnoliarose, so true. I’m not going to knock this woman’s looks. Whatever she has it’s what BA wants, or he just doesn’t want JG anymore–either way.
Agreed! It’s not about looks. But for the record, Lindsay is FAR more attractive than the nanny. The nanny was plain and looked like she had the most irritating/annoying vapid air about her. Lindsay is very pretty. And perhaps deeper/more interesting. Ben is the real problem here.
She and hubby split in 2014 because they weren’t happy for a while. The relationship with Ben allegedly started in 2013. Would that have contributed to their marital unhappiness do you suppose?
From the looks of it (awkward, unromantic NYT photo), she settled for marrying a friend, sorry to say.
Again, Lindsay and Ben are gross. Jen must be one of the most papped woman of LA.
Let us wait for Starkey Gala this weekend. I bet you this chick can’t wait to do her first red carpet walk. Seriously though, I don’t know why those people are giving him an award. There are more deserving individuals who work tirelessly out there to help out or raise awareness. JG received this award last year too.
That’s happening the same weekend as the X Games are in Minneapolis – going to be a lot of partying going on. i don’t see him sitting in a suburban hotel room after the gala. There’s a casino about 45 mins south of where the gala is being held, too
These two have the exact same wide, toothy smile. In fact, they look very much alike. Odd.
They are so back pedaling from the damage Jen and her team have done! Her team has really painted Lindsay as a tramp that is a marriage breaker.
I don’t think Ben cares for Lindsay nearly as much as he wants to hurt Jen and rub her nose in it!
He will get bored with Lindsay eventually because he will grow tired of her bossing him around. Like Jen was supposedly doing with him!
What happened to the pap strolls? I was waiting for numerous pap strolls from yesterday. Maybe, they are having some makeovers, like more Botox and having her hair conditioned so it would look clean and not stringy.
I have yet to find any message board that is not hating (in the majority) on this new GF / relationship – even TMZ. It’s an interesting study on the PR world. Strategy really is the key, and it doesn’t look well done at all.
Read Lainey today
Yes, I did. She is feasting on this, isn’t she? She has some very good observations from the perspective being inside that bubble and exposing how it works to the rest of us mortals.
Check out Blind Gossip’s first hit today. Not really a blind, just no names listed.
If you thought Gigli was bad…
Ugh, she looks like man – hideous
What is the end game here? They are all adults who make choices and all of them have to live with the consequences of their choices. Jen is paying the price for hanging on to a deeply selfish man who is a misogynist. He hates women or else he wouldn’t treat women like dirt and he wouldn’t humiliate the mother of his children. If he had any decency he would have left her years ago and said he didn’t think he was cut out for marriage. Then go jump on every random and hang with Leo DiCap in public. I don’t know what his relationship with his mother is but obviously problematic because Casey is a woman hater too.
Lindsay is paying or will pay the price for jumping into the middle of an ugly dysfunctional marriage and being his excuse to finally give JG the final stomp in the gut he has been dying to do since the beginning. I am convinced he has a sadistic streak when it comes to her. Couldn’t hurt his Mommy but he can hurt THIS Mommy.
I don’t want her to get into with these two. He will love every second of it and it will make him determined to prove to the world how much better off he is without her. He isn’t going to suffer any professional blow back. Even if she lands hits it won’t change anything.
This is a good opportunity to reinvent herself as her own person. But I wouldn’t put it past Ben to see her moving on and try to pull her back for a few more rounds of pain.
If hadn’t been Lindsay it would have been someone else.
Yep
I did some reading about narcissistic personality disorder. Enlightening.
Good assessment on the no-professional-blow-back. Jen Garner is not going to achieve anything with these leaks.
Jeez. That is amazing insightful possibility. I’ve been wondering too if Garner doesn’t also have Mommy issues. I’ve always wondered how she thought this would ever turn out well or why she’d purposefully choose a difficult man unless she was difficult herself OR needed a fall guy to project her sweet as molasses image. These people could be the foundation of a psych degree thesis perhaps?
This lady is kind of smug looking. I probably would have told her to stay away from Ben, just to stick it to her face.
Ass hats like Affleck usually end up with someone trashy later in life. When you’re younger you fall for looks and charm so it’s difficult to leave when they’re assholes. As you age you want a better guy, so assholes end up with whoever will put up with them. Think of Ryan from teen Mom og. When he was younger i don’t think he would’ve been with the woman he married.
So is it possible that JG was arranging all those pap walks in 2013, with Ben openling the door while she smiles adoringly at him–
To send a message to Lindsay to back off?
Yes, it helps her image for JG to nail those lucrative endorsements to be happily married.
But also, maybe it was part of her strategy to get L to give up and go away?
I know it failed but I give JG for her game.
No judgement here.
I can also see how Ben’s ego loved that he had 2 women fawning over him.
You know people are behaving as if this Lindsay person is an actress and needs the PR. Or even a lowly nanny. I’m not saying she’s Scott Rudin but at the end of the day she really doesn’t need the PR that’s Ben’s world. He’s the one that’s imploding his image. She works behind the scenes and will be just fine (barring her own self destructive tendencies) . Jen doesn’t really have the power it would take to destroy her and being over 40 in Hollywood and long past the peak of her career she’s likely going to go the way of endorsements, family movies etc.
I can’t imagine the paranoia in this relationship. How do you trust the person who cheated to be with you as you did the same. Give it 6 months from here
@scottagirl
Thanks for telling us up Lainey’s last article on Ben. I just love Lainey! She is always right on the money with Ben! Not only is E defending that relationship. ET, Access Hollywood, Extra, all are defending that relationship timeline. I am surprised someone hasn’t tried to get an exclusive from Lindsay’s ex yet.
She props JG up so much you just have to wonder if there’s a financial arrangement. I don’t agree with her assessment of JG being a PR master. JG is being quite pathetic in all this.
I’m trying to understand something; would it be different if she was some woman with model looks. Every comment is about how she looks. So why does that matter.
I will never forget something my Uncle said to me once. It has made a difference in my life. I saw this really good looking man with a woman that I know was not considered attractive. I said to him; Why is he with her; they just don’t go together”.
My Uncle said it is not just about how a woman looks for men. All men are not looking for a beauty queen. It is how she makes him feel. She probably makes him feel good about himself.
take it as you will.
Ok, having been in a relationship ( thank God not married and no kids) with a guy much like Ben in behavior ( though not in charm, fame, or money) I feel like an expert on this.
I do agree that Lindsey forced the issue. Guys like Ben want to have it all, Ben did. He did his philandering, had an wife/ex who kept him somewhat clean and gave him good PR but knew and accepted his side dish for years. Plus, he got to spend time with his kids, who I am sure he loves, in his own way. He had his cake and could eat it too, and narcissists don’t give that up easily. He didn’t want Jen but he wanted what she could provide- some good PR.
I think Lindsey pushed it and when it went public Jen hit the point where she couldn’t be doormat anymore and had to do the PR war. But he and she were separated for a long time, so he is able to move on.
Ben is who and what he is and is not going to change for anyone. Jen continuing this PR war helps no one- her kids are old enough to see this in the media. And how confusing for them when Jen says negative things in public about their dad, it’s the same as badmouthing him to them. To be fair, I have never seen Ben say bad stuff about Jen.
I am not defending him, he is a douche and a dog. But Jen is not much better. And what is Lindsey thinking, he will be faithful to her? She is delusional.
I totally agree with you on Jen not having a point (but venting) with the PR war. She’s not acting with best interests of the children.
Yes I agree with you both and it’s why I keep being negative on Garner, to point of using her surname to emphasize this isn’t a gender thing.
Totally off topic but doesn’t he always seem to go for girls who have a mannish quality? At certain angles Jennifer looks masculine and this girl does as well. Not that it matters, Ive just noticed that over the years.
Which man does JLo look like?!?
A Rod ????
I guess Ben’s tone-deaf PR team is giving up on the charade they tried to hit us with on Friday with these new Shookus source quotes. Why would someone in an early 3 month romance think ” its worth risking a lot for?” What are you risking if you are just having a good time in a new relationship — he was worth the risk? Risk of what?
Are they finally admitting they cheated while married? To answer the charge that Jennifer told Lindsay to back away and their response was that non-denial denial “Jennifer and Lindsay don’t have any relationship”. WTF! We know they don’t have a relationship! Why didn’t they just come out and say whether it really happened or didn’t? I guess you can’t just come out and say it didn’t happen because it must have. Sorry if these points have been made already upthread.
Wren you say you have not seen Ben say anything bad about Jen. So when have you seen Jen say anything about Ben? there is no proof that she has leaked any of this info out there any more that there is absolute proof that Ben is pressuring E and ET, etc to change the slant on the story – could it be that it’s being implied to these outlets that he is part of a big franchise that has a very soon released pic and more to come and if they want to be part of the press junkets they better temper their reporting or be excluded. They better change the narrative or else.
I also respectively agree with Learningthesystem that Jojo and many others are blaming Jen far more than Ben and are looking to vilify him. She loved him at first and I agree with another poster she didn’t want to have another failed marriage and she wanted even a sham of a family for her kids and to know she didn’t have to have a custody arrangement where he would have them 50% of the time. Can you imagine wondering during Bens time having them if he was sober and clean and if the kids were okay. I am sure this was a consideration in her staying. Some of you guys are implying that what she did is worse then what he did. It’s like your trying to defend him and put the blame on her. It’s sad really when women do this to another woman.
If Jen leaked this there is a lot of subtle insults. Ben really hasn’t ever even implied bad stuff about her that I know of.
I am a child of divorced parents and I have never bought that ” stay together for the kids” arguement. Do the divorce, make a clean break, the kids will see Dad during his custody time, and they will adjust. Not this back and forth junk Jen is doing. I am not vilifying Jen- I WAS the Jen in my relationship with a narcissist. The difference is, my doormat behavior and martyrdom did not affect kids. I think she is doing them a disservice by having this press war. They will eventually hear about it.
I think it’s likely very hard for Jen and it’s probably beyond most people’s self-control to stop acting on the impulse to “clarify” Ben Affleck’s lies about this being a new relationship as he debut his new gf.
However, I just don’t see what she’s trying to achieve. She can do an interview maybe six months down the track to set the record straight about his cheating with Lindsay. That’d be more responsible and transparent. Can’t be good for the kids to have this fighting in the press. If she were promoting a film the PR might have a point. Seems like she’s just venting without a goal in sight.
People and US both said multiple sources. Also, People referenced a witness from 2013 who saw them in NY beginning at the Afterparty, which Jen didn’t attend. They also provide the name of the hotel in NY where they met up. Is it possible Lindsay has an enemy who was waiting for the chance to put this out there? Maybe someone who didn’t like what she did to her husband? Would Jen even know some of the NY details, as well as where else they met up? It is entirely possible. All of the details could have come from someone who knows Lindsay and what they did.
Speaking for myself, I’ve said I don’t consider her worse. All the adults in this are equally awful imo.
As for her ever speaking negatively about him – she is a PR seeking person and this has been evident. Her “bless him” in that huge interview she gave, I think in VF? It’s about modelling respect for the father of your kids. Her kids surely pick up on this. Ben alluded to it in his oscars acceptance, thanking her etc….to say that in public, to have all this play out publicly the way it has, definitely it’s more condescending tone and inferences at home. The kids are already affected by this.
I don’t know much about their parents but these two are coming off as acting out children themselves. Familial patterns repeating perhaps.
I just saw that Lindsay created a Twitter and an Instagram account to speak out and “set the record sttaight” If Ben’s team just kept their mouth shut and did not divulge any those stupid comments , this would not have blown up in her face!
She goes on to say “while I know this is not the juicy story that people are looking for….it is the best I can offer.”
She also says “under no circumstances did this start out as an affair.”
This is a street smart chick with a major attitude!!!
It was a fake account. Twitter has already suspended it.
“and it’s all passive aggressive bullsh-t.”
I have a feeling Jen Garner is A class at that. Ben Affleck would just be douchey but at least upfront. She’d try to be sweet, kind person in EVERYTHING in life and passive aggressive the heck out of every single issue because she doesn’t want to be “the bad person.” Her credit card ads are cringey. She’s a mature adult and needs to stop with the weird affect where she’s a sweet 16 girl. That movie where she’s playing a teen who wakes up 30 one day? That’s her.
Thanks Lindsay! Whatever she does is damned.
Sorry, but I’m not Lindsay and not even posting from the US. I don’t get why Jen Garner gets to air out her family’s dirty laundry without criticism and gets called a PR master in the process. If she wants to do it, why not do it in an interview and take full responsibility instead of doing it through leaks. Same thing I said about Angelina Jolie leaking Brad Pitt stuff. These people leak because they don’t want to take responsibility and look bad for what they’re saying.
Did u ever think it might not be Garner at all who is leaking this info.? It could be easily Lindsay’s ex or any of his friends?
Because Lindsay would never leak stuff that casts herself as the third party. Unflattering and pr suicide. Remember, Ben’s team is saying this is a new romance. As soon as his people leaked that, someone retorted it’s a three-year affair. Content, timing confirm it’s JG. Only JG could have leaked it.
The three-year-affair leak includes these points:
“They [spouses] were devastated when they found out about the affair.”
“She was married and had a baby and left her husband to be with Ben”
Would Lindsay leak this? Only JG could have.
Ben. Upfront. Really? Is that another meaning for duplicitous?
I don’t get how Ben is upfront about anything either though.
He pretty much lets the tabloids make his love life decisions for him.
The real funny thing about this is that they are trying to make it out like a real serious relationship and make us empathetic to them. Which would and could be totally fine and true except for that one little elephant in the room. He slept with the nanny!!! So did he cheat on this girl too??? Timeline please as this is just ridiculous and he should be ashamed at his antics.
Ben is leaving soon for filming a movie. I wonder if this chic will guard him because you know Ben can’t kept it together.
IMO she can’t call it cheating when you’re already the side piece? I mean, every relationship (or the lack of it!) is a complete world in itself, so it depends what their agreement was? let’s start with the fact that they were both married: did they considered their (estranged) spouses a freebie? was it exclusive? was it open? if it was open, was there jealousy? let’s always keep in mind that is difficult to label this relationships since it was based on cheating, so what was it? probably they didn’t even put a label on it. They couldn’t. Now? well, now the game has changed. I always reming myself that this chick gravitated so many years around the SNL environment: arty fellas, lots of partying, open relationships, sex and drugs. I mean…that is something Ben must have found very very appealing. I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out that she and her husband had an open marriage.
I would also like to add, I could never date a guy that slept with his nanny. NEVER
What about a guy who does it and later marries their nanny (Ethan Hawke)?
I always side eye actors (male or female) who start dating and even go onto marrying their hired help, because it speaks volumes of a sick dynamic where they like to hold on the power of the relationship, keep the upper hand and control the narrative: is about power. Assistants who became wives are the most common: Josh Brolin, Woody Harrelson come to mind. Nannies case is even creepier for the children factor. And sometimes this sick logic applies to wealthy actors marrying “civilians” with humble background, like Mat Damon himself, Christian Bale: they all keep the upper hand, they all can control their spouses even more than just financially. It goes both ways too: actresses marrying “lesser” guys, but then that’s another whole chapter.
ET is now saying that Ben and Lindsay reconnected in 2016 at the Four Seasons Hotel while he was promoting the Accountant.
Wasn’t there talk about Ben being with a blonde at the Four Seasons Hotel?
ITA w/Green’s comments.
The “aw fudge” here come the dimples is a bit much.
I still remember when she “gasped” revealed by accident on purpose the sex of her baby on Leno.
Bring out the Dimples, it’s the Garner Girl way. Remember how she talks about how she’s a Garner Girl?
Matt Reeves, the new director of the standalone Batman has dropped Ben’s script and is writing a new script.
He must not have liked the script! Not sure of they are using Deadshot, either.
See the latest blind gossip
BG is the worst sometimes, not only they’re so obviously write the blinds after the news came out, and they’re so easy to figure that they should just write the names of the people involved and wouldn’t make any difference. No. They also have to make a blind out of things that everybody can see juts by looking at the pics at the DMail (just like Enty does): we all can see that Affleck is not sober, is crystal clear. And they write the blind AFTER those pics come out. That’s not even fun anymore. Blinds should be fun and give us gossip nobody knows YET.
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This relationship still confuses the heck out of me because of the nanny.
I was thinking the same thing as there seems to be a bit of overlap
he is testing her, and she passed! she passed the test of being the patient and understanding side piece for years, she passed the test of adoration and willingness to throw everything away for him, including a marriage, she passed the test of allowing him not only to keep the wife but also fuck whomever else he wants (Nanny, costars, strippers, and who knows how many others) now she’s just passed the Vegas test: she will allow and enable all his vices without being a nagging, annoying b*tch like his uncooperative Church rat of a wife was. She’s the one! -for this month, then Lindsay will start to get annoying as well, so he’ll dump her (or make her dump him, since he’s such a coward to do the dumping) and promote to main one of his (many) other side chicks. Repeat.
It has to be so hard for Jen to see Ben spiraling out of control, again for the sake of their children! I can’t imagine (nor would i want to) the pain Ben has put Jen through! She still will have to be monitoring his behavior for their children. I can imagine Jen is beyond disgusted that the once love of her life has fallen so far!
I don’t think she would have held on so long to this marriage if it wasn’t for their children!
Jen had been around Ben to see and know the signs of relapse. Lindsay will find out soon enough if she is as intelligent as she portrays herself!
@Carol – She was photographed several times yesterday. She didn’t seem her normal self. She was either smiling too big or she looked pretty pensive. I think this whole situation has thrown her for a loop. Her PR keeps saying how strong she is but everyone has a breaking point. I remember how thin she got after the nanny story came out. Who can forget those dreadful pictures from Disney World and that silly shopping trip to the mall? If I was her I would take the kids and go away for a while. Ben and Lindsay don’t want to be apart so I don’t think he will be a problem.
This has to be so hard for Jen to see him spiraling out of control again for their 3 children. I can’t even imagine (Nor would I want to) the heartache Ben has put her through! ! Even though they are divorcing, she still will have to monitor his behavior for the sake of her children. That has to be so frustrating to watch the once love of your life fall so far! I can certainly see how disgusted one would get! Jen is all too familiar with the signs!
Lindsay has no idea what a ride she is about to go on!
Jennifer and Ben are a horrible love match. He is an addict and party animal. I bet Lindsay is too and she accepts him for who he is. So in that sense- maybe she is a better romantic partner. Jennifer Garner tried to change Ben, and i truly think she is not in love with the real Ben but she was in love with what she THOUGHT Ben COULD be, the idea of Ben.
At the end of the day we all are who we are- crappy, good, bad the ugly. Whatever.
If i were Ben, I wouldnt want to be with Jennifer Garner either. She was constantly trying to change him into someone he obviously doesnt want to be. This Lindsay chick seems more like him with the partying and infidelity so they probably understand each other and accept each others character flaws. I bet Lindsay slept with other men too so she probably gave him
A pass. Im not saying they are “good” people but they seem to be birds of a feather and better suited.. At some point you just are what you are.
For some reason I read the headline as ‘Lindsay Lohan’ – this got a lot less interesting once I realize who it was actually about
Lol
I couldn’t bear reading about Lohan. These aren’t much better though, for sure.