As it turns out, Thomas Markle’s exclusive interview with The Sun was a multi-part affair. The Sun stretched out Markle’s interview into several posts, and they also got him on video making a plea for attention. Thomas threatened his daughter, via The Sun, saying: “If I chose in a month, or couple of months, to go to England—I want to see my daughter. I’m thinking about it. I don’t care whether she is pissed off at me or not. If I chose in a month, or couple of months, to go to England — I want to see my daughter. I’m thinking about it. I’m not going to wave flags and make a fool of myself. I’d find a hotel room and try to reach them.” Oh. What a disaster. As is this video:
My guess is that this threat is part of a larger media campaign with Thomas Markle working in concert with at least one British tabloid, if not multiple tabloids. I could completely see The Sun and the Daily Mail pooling resources to bring Thomas to London to do a series of “Thomas Markle In London” exclusives where they pose him outside the palace gates as he looks forlorn. Yes, he really is that f-cking manipulative and tacky.
Apparently, Meghan and Harry are “frustrated” at Thomas’s constant toxicity:
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are “frustrated” with the former Suits star’s father, Thomas Markle. Amid his latest interview with The Sun, a royal source tells ET the Duke and Duchess of Sussex “haven’t had any contact” with him lately.
“[They] are frustrated he keeps speaking to the tabloids and taking payment for interviews,” the source adds.
Yes, just to keep underlining the point: Thomas Markle is getting paid for all of this. He is profiting off his daughter. He’s literally selling her out to cushion his retirement. Meghan knows it. Harry knows it. And the f–king British tabloids know it too, but they’re still going to pay him for interviews and then criticize Meghan for refusing him access to her life. Meghan’s detractors really need to give up the talking point that she NEEDS to bring her father in or pay attention to him in some way. She invited him to the bloody wedding and he made his choice – to humiliate her, shame her, and sell her out.
Photos courtesy of WENN, screencap courtesy of The Sun.
Unhinged loony. I honestly believe had he been to the wedding ,he would have created drama like fainting as he walked her down the aisle.
I absolutely believe he would have done that. Narcissists of this level will use a wedding or funeral to draw attention to themselves.
Spot on, Christin and Loopy, because he’s a narcissist he would have had to make it all about him.
At risk of sounding like a stalker, myself, I was relieved when he pulled the stent stunt because it was clear by then that he’d have caused some kind of drama at the Chapel b/c he couldn’t be just a bit-player.
Even now, all his regret is about missing his place in history, not letting down his daughter. He says he suffers every time someone congratulates him on the wedding: instead of rejoicing for his daughter, he takes each reminder as a stab to his own status.
H&M are suffering now, but they dodged a bigger bullet.
Imagine if he had attended the wedding: he’d have a pocketful of juicy insider stories about the reception, the castle, the RF and H&M themselves to sell – and we know he would.
“I’d tell Harry to get over it”, said with extra venom. Get over what? Did Harry use the morning-after phone call to tell TMsnr they were honeymooning in Canada? Did they test his mettle by seeding misinformation, as William was rumoured to do with new friends in younger days? The Jackson honeymoon speculation appeared first in TMZ.
Lol, thats the trouble with malignant narcissists: they make your world so uncertain that they turn you into a crazy conspiracy theorist.
That poor woman. She’s earring Prince Charles’ nickname: tungsten.
“If I choose……I don’t care if she’s pissed…..If I choose……” Announcing that he has all the power here to inflict maximum humiliation on her, should he choose.
So incredibly sinister…..and increasingly so.
I feel sooooo sorry for Meghan. If I were her, I would insist on going for counseling with Harry WHILST this sh*t is going on. So they can hopefully minimise the damage this could inflict on their relationship.
Couldn’t this be seen as a (not so) veiled threat to a member of TRF, and not let him be allowed into the country? I don’t know how it all works, but it’s definitely a threat, at the very least, to her happiness/sanity.
If not, let MI5/MI6 loose into his past, working in Hollywood there could be *some* dirt, enough to disallow him entry.
I feel so badly for M & H, they have this shadow over what should be one of the happiest times of their lives.
I only hope there’s karma enough in the word to bite TM on his big, lardy a$$.
When Harry asked for people to leave Meghan alone I bet he didn’t think the biggest threat to his wife’s privacy and peace of mind would be her own father…..talking to the Sun is the ultimate insult to both of them….I would defo get MI5/MI6 on it to stop this guy coming to the UK – he is even more unwelcome here than Trump was…
He is sounding like a stalker. I get a sick feeling reading that kind of talk. I hope he is under some type of surveillance because what does he have to lose by lashing out? Nothing.
His words sound like a classic abuser. Yes narcissist, but also abuser.
And if he’s aware enough to get payment for these. He’s aware of how to actually reach out to his daughter. By not exploiting her.
Good for her handling this so well. She owes him nothing and toxic family does not have a right to staying in your life because of genetics.
@burdzeyeview OMFG, I know. I actually feel sadness and second-hand embarrassment for her. I was raised by physically and emotionally abusive parents who’ve learned from their mistakes, basically doing what their parents did to them, and they’ve worked hard to make amends as we came into adulthood and as they emotionally matured. The kind of abuse that Meghan is suffering at the hands of her father is something my parents would never do! Even at their worst they would never sell us out for profit or attempt to publicly shame us or allow another sibling to tarnish the other’s image due to jealousy. I hope she never ever speaks to that SICK TWISTED man again! She is nothing to him, but $$$
Well, Markle’s doing the seemingly impossible for the RF.
After last year’s 20th anniversary reminder of the Firm’s coldness, cruelty and dysfunction, Markle’s making the Windors look like a haven of loving family stability for Meghan.
Who’d have imagined that?
Sympathies, Cali, for your experience but how amazing to have parents who struggled to overcome their conditioning. Props to them: that can’t have been easy.
what a terrible situation for Meghan
Why is he acting like she’s being held hostage??? Seriously WTF is wrong with this man??? He has made it clear he doesn’t give a
sh@t about how she feels. It’s all about him. I can totally see him going to England and embarrassing her.
Vile man!!
Yes. My first thought after watching that clip was, “What a pig.” My second thought, “I can see why Doria dumped him.”
@ Notsosocialbutterfly : Every time I read comments from this moron, I remind myself that Doris Ragland was quite young when she met Thomas Markle Sr and that many women (myself included) made poor romantic choices at that time in our lives. I am totally #TeamDoria. I read that Ragland and Markle divorced when Meghan was six but I have this feeling that it was probably over between them long before that. Lordy, but he is an ass!
They separated when Meghan was a toddler. Yesterday someone posted that the divorce took so long because he didn’t want to pay adequate child support.
He is complete trash. I feel awful for Meghan but she’s doing the right thing by cutting him out of her life.
I agree, Jess. Hopefully, the Duke and Duchess can wait it out until these disgusting media outlets get bored with him and stop coughing up. Or he falls off the perch in due course. What a despicable, sickening excuse for a father he is.
The pathetic thing is, if he kept his mouth shut and ignored the press, there’s no way Meg and Harry would let him want for anything. I think he’s as addicted to the attention as he is to the money.
This. I don’t think it is about the money at all – that’s just a sympathy hook (that he needs money because he’s not being taken care of). This is ALL about the attention he craves and his desire to control her.
My exact thoughts. ALL he had to do was SHUT. UP. And he literally could not do it. It’s amazing to watch someone gleefully burn their own life down,
And to think, at one point, we all wondered how his eldest two got to be so attention seeking and vicious… we’ll, they’re just the rotten limbs off a rotten to the core tree after all.
ITA, this is what I keep thinking as well. But, as you guys say above, if he’s a narcissist then his need for attention and validation (and to be the victim) will over-ride anything else, including him acting in his own long-term best interests. It is amazing to see these kinds of people shoot themselves in the foot. (I have someone in my family who is like this.)
Ugh. He’s such a mess. A manipulative, asshole-y mess.
I hope Doria gets photographed at Balmoral or something this summer. Maybe walking dogs with the queen.
I would LOVE to see Doria there at Christmas, at Sandringham, with the whole family doing “the walk”. Maybe that will give him real chest pains! I know you shouldn’t wish someone harm, but man, this POS so deserves back what he’s giving!
Hmm, if the Middletons are refused/not invited, I don’t see how Doria would be? It just makes the Windsors seem snobby and cold when they don’t let the in-laws participate in their Christmas Day festivities – so I understand why William likes to spend Christmases with the kids and the Midds.
If they invite Doria then they have to start inviting everyone else’s in-laws.
Duchess Meghan should cut her father off. I k ow thisi is her family but all her father, half sister and brother has ever done is to bring g shame to Meghan. I do not blame her and Prince Harry for being frustrated. Meghan Markle, Cut your father off, for you sake.
She has. This is the result of that. She has cut him off and ceased speaking to him entirely, and he can’t abide by that fact.
I suspect Thomas will really flip his lid soon. Narcsissits HATE TO BE IGNORED and they are always the victim.
Harry and Meghan just need to ignore him. The money will run out once the media realizes he has no access whatsoever.
@Sash – I disagree. Sooner or later, this will come to a head and Pa Markle knows enough about PR to know that even if they go on ignoring him, he can do a fair amount of PR damage to her. The threat to come to the UK while the tabs scream, “Hardhearted Meghan refuses to meet or reconcile with pleading father!” is a real one, and my guess is that eventually, Harry and Meghan will have to sit down with him and close the breach so that he has no platform to stand on. Whether or not money (such as an annual settlement) will be involved is something for speculation.
The tabs don’t care whether or not he has access, only that he makes waves and drives traffic to their sites. And, if he continues to damage her optically, they don’t care about that, either, because, as has been mentioned many times, the tabs have it in for her and Harry for threatening them in fall 2016.
I give her props for just going about her daily life and work, but I believe at some point, especially if he comes to London and stands at the Palace gates calling for his daughter, this is going to get worse. It’s not a good look for her, and he knows it.
Giving into him will only make it worse as he will run to the press every time he doesn’t get what he wants from them – am sure its a pattern that Meghan has seen from him her whole life.
He’s in it for the sympathy, control and money – big motivations for toxic people like him. If the RF pay him then they will have to pay for the rest of that vile family. Whatever she gives him will NEVER EVER be enough, NEVER.
He can threaten all he likes but at that the end of the day, the RF have endured much worse than a narcissistic sad old man who thinks that being a good father is selling your daughter off to the highest bidder.
@Digital Unicorn – I don’t disagree with any of your points re Markle’s character, but I’m not sure whether I agree that the BRF and H&M can simply go on ignoring him till the end of the day. Unless I misunderstood what happened, press people have already lost their jobs over the failure to handle this properly, and one of the points made was that handling it properly was not just ignoring him. We all know the DM and the other tabs are never going to let this go. The rest of the family are half-siblings and it’s easier to understand ignoring them. But he’s her father and there are messages from her to him saying things like, “I’m still your buckaroo!” so in my opinion it’s more complicated where he is concerned. He’s the source: that boil has to be lanced (sorry about the gross analogy!). Just my view.
I would think if he comes banging on the gates (metaphorically or otherwise), can’t he be arrested for harassment at that point? Or making a public disturbance? Do they take out a restraining order?? While I know those headlines wouldn’t be great, but WTH can they do otherwise?
@Violet – From what i can gather, there has been periods of estrangement for years between them and what he’s doing now has triggered another lengthy estrangement. We don’t know the dynamics of the relationship and it could be that at some point they reconcile but that’s not going to happen anytime soon. He’s drunk on the attention and is being egged on by Samantha and people like Piers Morgan, when the inevitable happens and he press turn on him he may think twice about his behaviour.
@Jan – If he flounced up to the Palace gates with a camera crew in tow he and they would be arrested for breach of the peace (public nuisance), as film crews need to get permission to film in public areas from the local councils. Secondly, the palaces are private property so trespass laws apply and is he tries to force his way in, against he will be arrested – others who have tried that were thrown in jail. But the special snowflake seems to think that as he is Meghan’s father the laws of the land don’t apply to him.
IF the Firm didn’t pay anyone to keep quiet about Fergie’s toe -sucking pics, Charles tampon wish etc., they most certainly are not going to give this guy any money to be quiet. Once you pay a blackmailer you are stuck with them forever. They’re going to continue to ignore him, when the tacky tabs realize that he has no access , will never get any access and he can’t even trick her into accidental access they’ll stop with him. The only way to achieve this is to NOT respond to him in any way,shape or form. The Firm is doing the right thing.
They shouldn’t give him a penny, they shouldn’t talk to him, they shouldn’t try to reason with him. Just shut him down completely.
Violent, I’m sure you’re right about what horrors TMsnr may resort to, but you are missing a critical factor: no one can stop TMsnr from doing what he’s gonna do.
It wouldn’t matter what largesse they lavished on him, how much love and attention they gave him, what promises they made to him, or what promises they extracted from him, narcissists gonna narc.
Sooner or later, probably sooner, TMsnr’s self pity would be triggered by something, or nothing, and he’d be off again with his blackmailing abuse.
People from sane families cannot see this because, lucky for them, they’ve never experienced it, but narcs like TMsnr can never be permanently placated, bought off, threatened or cajoled into behaving themselves. Any attempt only brings a very temporary respite, before they revert to type and are up to their old tricks.
Meghan has known this man for 36 years, so she probably knows this. She and Harry are doing the only thing they can: cutting bait, hunkering down and weathering the old man’s raging storm.
Yes, I think they should ignore it. Eventually he won’t be worth any money to the press, and they’ll stop paying him. But really, he’s not breaking any laws, is he? Celebrities use the press to their own advantage all the time — not necessarily for cash, but publicity, public sympathy, etc. The best way to stop it is to ignore it.
Nah, our tabloids are going to keep paying him because it makes for a juicy story. Lol media money never runs out! I wouldn’t be surprised if the media pay him to fly out here and record the whole damn thing!!
I didn’t even bother reading his most recent interview on People. If we stop clicking on them, the tabloids will stop paying him money. I like Meghan and her fashion keeps me entertained, so it’s the least I can do.
He’s not a father, he’s a sperm donor.
One of the sadder parts of this is…that’s not really true. While her mother definitely raised her he was around and involved during her childhood to at least some extent (one story I recall was who he volunteered his lighting skills for her school theatre production). Somehow that makes this even worse? If he’d totally run out on her I think it would be slightly easier and certainly easier to completely cut ties. As is, there was clearly enough of a connection to give her some hope. Mourning that, like with any loss, will take time.
Yes, if this was a fatherly betrayal (abandonment) that took place 36 years ago, maybe Meghan would have had a chance to make peace with it. But I get the impression she has probably lived with a cycle of closeness, betrayal, estrangement and forgiveness/rapprochement from this man her whole life. I think Harry has a real protective urge in him, I hope he’s just the supporting shoulder she needs.
I’ve seen Meghan do interviews on the late night talks shows over the last two or three years (pre-Harry) where she speaks of her father with great warmth and affection. She discussed how he regularly took her to the set of General Hospital and Married with Children. And she did put pictures of the two of them together on her Instagram. So at various points throughout her life, she has been close to him and he was present.
I don’t pretend to know the intricacies or the details of their relationship over the years. However, Thomas Markle’s behavior in the last several months – particularly since Meghan and Harry’s wedding is inexcusable. I don’t think it’s all about the money. He’s acting vile and unhinged. Does he have substance abuse problems or mental illness? Or is he just a plain ***h**e. Meghan is smart to cut off contact.
That is not true. Over the years, Meghan has always spoken about him in a loving way. He was very involved in her life. Who knows what this is about, but I get the sense he is feeling left out. I don’t believe this is all about money, either.
I feel so sorry for Meghan. This man is awful
It’s s a very sad situation.
TM and his children seem to act as if they demand power and control over Meghan and by extension Harry. It’s like “we will not be ignored and you will assist us in profiting off of your life and success.” The playbook seems to be to build up enough public sentiment to force Meghan into allowing them into her life so they can continue exploiting her. The British tabloids can’t overtly use the race angle but they sure can use the emotional angle to destroy Meghan. So sad.
Remarkable by its absence is even the smallest shred of concern by any of them for Meghan’s wellbeing.
They’re not her family.
No shame on Meghan, we cannot choose our family.
I’ve read some takes on how upset the Royal Family must be about Meghan’s family. Ummmm, I’m assuming those people missed the entire 1990s of the British Royals? If anything this is making the Royals look kind and functional (welcoming this poor, put-upon woman into their circle). Hell Prince Charles now looks like kindly father figure and man of the year! If Meghan’s family think this is embarrassing the royals they are as amateur as they are attention-seeking.
They are amateurs. They have pretty much guaranteed that they will most likely never see her again.
I know right! The Royal family are coming off very loving and welcoming when most people know they are anything but lol. So funny.
Can’t they sue him? This is borderline harassment.
They can’t, but he’s emotionally abusive.
There are now statutes in the UK for emotional and psychological abuse and control. The problem is in this case it would draw more un-necessary attention and exite Papa Markle.
I have a theory as to why he is behaving like this. Every time I have tried to submit it isn’t going through – arghhh
Can they stop him from entering the country because they feel he is a threat to members of the RF?
No. Any attention breathes life into these monsters and it doesn’t matter if it is negative. If the BRF budge even a fraction this lot will dine on it for years. Ignore and No Contact is the only thing that works. It pisses them off and they escalate but eventually, they stop. Not forever but not with the same gusto.
Right, magnoliarose. It’s the only thing to do. Weathering the escalation is ugly, but to do anything else is to just ensure more escalations down the track.
Anyone who is puzzled needs to understand that there is no action that will permanently placate the likes of TMsnr. He’s an attention vampire, and his craving is a bottomless hole that nothing can fill.
I feel terrible for her. Can’t the royals pay him to go away at this point?
Blackmailers never stop at one payment.
True, look at Putin and Trump.
Yeah, sorry for bringing politics into this.
Or can’t our government “accidentally “ cancel his passport then take forever to issue a new one? Or, somehow his name ends up on the Do Not Fly list. Surely our government would be happy to do a favor for the RF.
Seriously? Sheesh.
Put a sad old fat man on the Do Not Fly List? You’re crazy.
He’d just demand more and continue, because he’d know that he had their attention and that they wanted him to shut up. He’s got the winning hand in that scenario. They’re better off completely ignoring him. Poor Meghan, having her toxic family drama play out in public like this.
I have a suspicion that is not really the problem anymore. I think they already offered him money to go away but he doesn’t want that. He wants 100% control of his daughter and now that he can’t get that control he wants to slowly wear her down until she contacts him.
Narcissism is a real illness. Also as someone said above, he will never stop at one payment.
Also consider that this isn’t just TM. This is a whole other ballgame i.e. a co-dependent Narcissistic toxic mess of Thomas Snr and Samantha wreaking their revenge – all 126 years of their painful existence.
Yes I agree, this has always been about control, and he’s a mess now that he has none. I feel so bad for Meghan
No wonder she’s stayed away from that Markle clan most of her adult life. The toxic trio are conniving, narcissistic jerks who feed into each other’s crazy. All you can do with people like that is keep them at arms length. I’d say go no contact completely but Meghan knew she would be in the public eye and so she couldn’t do that without dealing publicly with their narcissistic rage. Now she has no choice but to let this play out publicly because they wouldn’t have it any other way. They want and thrive off of any attention they get.
I don’t consider narcissism to be a mental illness. It’s a problem with a person’s character or moral insanity arising from an inability to empathize with others.
Without revealing my own personal details I must say this awful man is quite triggering and I just want to say to people with abusive parents that you are allowed to be happy and live your life the way you want.
Thank you. That was important to say and good to hear.
The stories from people with manipulative, abusive parents are incredibly sad. I had good, caring parents, but have relatives like Tom.
You have every right to be happy and have peace. One cannot underestimate the damage narcs cause, as chaos and hurt are like fuel to them. It’s awful, and I am sympathetic to anyone who has put up with such treatment.
Yes, thank you for this. No one has a right to treat you this way. Expect your relatives to treat you as well as you’d expect anyone you’d meet to treat you. Family shouldn’t exploit family ties (though they do all the time).
He’s awful. No wonder she sometimes has a “deer in the headlights” look.
Thank you for saying that. I am in the process of realizing my mother is a narcissist after 39 years of her manipulations that have gutted my self-confidence and fed my mood disorder. I haven’t completely cut her out, but am limiting contact and just reading your words that it is okay to do so relieves a bit of my guilt.
You only get one life. One. You deserve to live it in a way that makes you happy, without hurting anyone else. Nobody has the right to destroy what little happiness can be found on your life path. I can’t say I know you Malachite, just what I’ve read of your posts, but you come across as decent and kind, which is amazing given how you were raised. You’ve lived almost half your life under her influence. Go enjoy your life with people who make you happy.
It took me years to realize how valuable time is. Each of us only have 24 hours every day, and cannot “earn” any more. What we can do for ourselves and others is limited by that. Why spend it on someone who makes you feel less than good?
Not all parents/family are good people. Sometimes you have to ignore them, if not cut off contact completely. I’ve finally reached the point where “family/elderly/but you’re all I have” guilt trips of my aunts do not faze me. In my mind, I know they have not been respectful of me and were not good to my parents. I don’t wish them ill, but cannot make myself miserable being subject to their manipulations and cutting remarks.
i was married to an NPD person. The abuse is unimaginable to anyone who did not expierince that. But i did a special recovery therapy and omg the life is amazing again. And all I can say the only way is ignore and No Contact
thank you thank you thank you for understanding
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There’s no “there” there. Whether pro or anti-Thomas every click helps the media further bully Meghan. This is all a nit so subtle attempt to make her seem tainted, less than – even going with tbe poor Meghan narrative let’s tbe vile media concern troll at her expense.
What Nick Loeb is doing to Sofia Vergara with the courts, Thomas Markle is doing it to his own daughter with the media. Shameful.
We’ll probably never know but my guess is Meghan has always had an up/down relationship with her dad. This behavior can’t completely surprise her. She’d always praised him prior to becoming engaged to Harry but that doesn’t mean everything was smooth sailing behind the scenes–she chose not to exploit their relationship and to badmouth him. And now that Thomas Markle keeps doing interviews, she still hasn’t commented on it publicly beyond the one statement saying she was disappointed he wasn’t coming to the wedding.
I do wonder why Thomas decided to turn on his daughter right before the wedding. He was silent all throughout the time Meghan dated Harry and then became engaged to him. He only sold her out right before the wedding. Meghan clearly wanted him there. Why wait until right before the wedding? But the older half-siblings had to get their narcissism from somewhere I guess, clearly they got it from their dad.
Maximum drama and attention, that’s why the timing.
I feel awful for her! I know what its like to have a father/ parents (in my case) like that.
I think posing him in front of Kensington Palace would actually still be harmless- I think they bring him out for an event of hers- to have a live confrontation
If the Royals could handle Trump – and they did, in their way – they can handle this one. Let’s see how they do it.
But they are not handling him. This has been going on for 3 months.
And I dont think that they can handle him- he is motivated by money and attention. Its too late to bring him in- every exchange the royals would have with Markle at this point, he would sell to the british papers or TMZ.
Could be. I guess they’re hoping that by ignoring him he will eventually go away. It’s likely he will, but what other options do they have?
Their focus seems to be on supporting her and that’s probably the best that can be done in this scenario. Freeze him out and support her through this, make her feel welcome and secure in their affections (such as they are).
I was in something of her situation, albeit far less public, once and it would have meant the world to me to know that while I could not control a bad parent, I did have the support of others. (I did, but not as many as I would have hoped … people can be very blind to abuse dynamics in families.) As long as they give her that reality check and support and help her stay busy doing good works, she will be fine.
I suspect that they are handling it by no contact. A don’t feed the troll approach if you will and Meghan is wisely compling with it. He has no access and even if he came to London he wouldn’t get near her. He knows it too and it enrages him.
Who, I wonder is he taking that rage out on? He doesn’t seem the type to hold it in until the object of his anger appears. My guess is his partner in crime, Samantha.
I agree.
The next evil step will be to take him to one of the Sussexes event and stage a live confrontation. The british tabloids are pure evil. Why people read and click on their articles is beyond me.
Thomas Markle is an idiot. I hope Meghan cuts him off and never looks back.
Yes that was my thoughts as well. That why I think H&M should be careful with their walkabout. Which is a shame as she seems to connect so well with people.
But in the end he couldn’t even haul ass to her wedding … isn’t it easier for him to threaten from afar? Some of these people never show up, they just make a lot of noise.
Part of me thinks he’s all bluster and no pants. He couldn’t be bothered to make an effort to come over to the UK for her wedding and the flight from LA is approx. 11 hours (i have done it – its not pleasant), so coming from Mexico will take longer.
The fact that he said he’d do it in ‘a month or two’ means that it not going to happen – another empty threat.
Meghan is doing the right thing by blocking him out of her life.She offered Thomas help and he chose not to accept it.He only wants to meet her so he can prove that he still is in contact with her so the press will pay big bucks for new stories.I hope Meghan doesn’t give in cause Thomas seems like he has a few screws loose.
I think that he is just baiting her to contact him and he is all wired up to record the conversation and sell it to the tabloids. It wouldn’t surprise me to see photos of him forlornly standing in front of a royal residence coming out eventually. Which should put the statements about his being close to death to rest. Creep.
Apparently that’s exactly what they were doing prior to Father’s day, ie trying to guilt-trip Meghan into calling him while the conversation was recorded. Samantha’s behavior was especially unpleasant, even by her standards.
Meghan is living a fairytale and my heart still breaks for her over this. It hurts so much to be treated this way by a parent, but I can’t even imagine the humiliation of being treated this way publicly.
Bunny boiler dad.
Minx, I so admire how you consistently get right to the point.
Why, thanks ❤️
Yup, all I can see is the scene from “Fatal Attraction”: “I WILL NOT BE IGNORED, DAN!”…. bunny boiler, indeed!
If not for Doria Meghan would not be the great woman that she has become. This person posing as her father is despicable. The proof is in his behavior and that of his older lazy, disgusting, entitled grifter children. Trash the lot of them.
And what greatness has she achieved? Marrying a rich famous guy is now considered achieving greatness ??
She went to a great college, built a successful career as a working actress, and been involved in global causes.
@Tan, great in the sense that she’s an upstanding human being who does what is required of her in the position that she has right now. She goes about her life with dignity, the same as her mother, which means a lot more than you think.
I just want to point out that she went to a great college because she was privately educated.
He’s probably had his phone tapped to record any calls ahe may make to him . Any written correspondence would be sold for profit so there is no winning with his method of antagonizing her. Very selfish
I think that is exactly how they knew what he was up-to. He was so erratic and un-contained that UK intelligence started to keep an eye on him i.e. emails, phone calls everything.
This idiot probably does not know that the RF, UK intelligence and US intelligence have been watching his every move. How do you think they busted the phone hacking goons in the UK a few years ago…..
if Uncle Gary can make it to the wedding despite all his misdemeanours and questionable business associates and this clown didn’t then you know the RF had sh*t on him that they are not ready to use.
The RF may seem like they don’t say much but behind the scenes sh*t is going down. When they need to use that sh*t to shake him down he will feel their wrath, no dodgy tunnels needed. They will find his weakness and he will sh*t his pants.
Papa Markle better be careful with his next tax return or insurance claims because something tells me he’s going to be facing a lil extra scrutiny from now….
You certainly make a good point, DizzyLizzy. The RF probably has info that they can use against him but haven’t done so…yet. If they haven’t found anything on him, I hope that they will. He is unrelenting in his manipulation and attention-seeking ways.
The way he is abusing his daughter is sickening. Ugh.
Money is a hell of a thing. This a$$hole was dormant for MONTHS before the wedding and now that he’s gotten a whiff of real money, he’s become just a big bottom-feeding, gutter trash box like his daughter. I wonder if Samantha will get upset now that daddy is getting all the attention and all her money? I can’t imagine how Meghan must feel.
I don’t think Thomas cares about the money, or at least that’s not his main motivation. He comes off as a hyper controlling narcissist. He wants to control Meghan and through her have a place of “respect” within the RF, a group of people whom he does not even know, nor has even met in person. Bizarre.
I really think this is about power and control. They way he said, “shunned for the rest of my life? That’s not going to happen,” said a lot. He cares the most that they’re ignoring him and not rolling out the red carpet now the He’s decided he’s ready to come around. He didn’t show up to her wedding because that wasn’t on his terms.
Meghan and Harry, we are frustrated too. There is so much manipulation, targeted selection and drama within the modern media these days, it’s unfathomable. Unfortunately, drama sells (or gets clicks, better said) and “boring” normal stability does not. It’s not even just a political issue any more. It’s people pitting people against each other. Depressing.
The Markles have made it impossible for Meghan to have any contact with them. They can’t trust him to keep a single thing private. Can you imagine what he does with baby photos someday?
This man is just the worst.
He is human garbage, and you can’t MAKE your grown adult daughter see you any more than you can make the Queen.
For real. She’s not property. That he speaks in this way is so revealing.
Remember when Harry got flack for saying they are her family? Now we see why he said that.
Yes, and when he said it, it was heartfelt. He’s such a shrewd one with people.
Oh yes. Harry knew all along what we did not.
Yep we sure do.
I recall that and the Markles all flipped out as they steadily revealed their true intentions and garbage natures. Harry spoke the truth and they reveal this daily.
I’m still not sure that comment was meant that way, but it makes sense.
He wants money. Basically he is blackmailing his own daughter. On the other hand, if I was eating KFC in Mexico because that’s all I can afford and I read what she is spending on her clothes…I dunno.
I see that line of thought, but I think that it would have been more profitable to just clam up. I doubt the Firm would have allowed poor, destitute Daddy M stories, I think he would have lived much more comfortably if he’d have just gone with the tide….quiety.
You somehow think that since this man put himself in a position to BE in Mexico eating KFC that Meghan’s good self-earned good fortune means he should be able to cash in?
I don’t think he wants money anymore. Or rather not just money. He wants a seat at the table and to be able to do what he has always done – control,manipulate and triangulate people.
Problem is as someone pointed out yesterday he;s playing chequers and the RF are playing Chess on the original check board created for them.
Whilst he is a pawn with limited moves Queenie, Chuck, Harry and even Meghan have all sorts of moves at their disposal.
I love Meghan and truly hope this marriage works, bc now thanks to her degenerate family the RF will know exactly where all the dead bodies are buried.
I don’t think that’s all he can afford, that is what he CHOOSES. He was always a fat man, and you don’t get heart problems by eating healthy choices. He worked in a profession that, while didn’t make him a millionaire, gave him a very good living, and an excellent pension/health care. He has a rental property that he leases out in Los Feliz, which is an expensive area of LA, near Griffith Park, that brings him a few thousand a month for sure (I know, because my dad used to own property there).
He moved to Mexico to make his dollars go even further. So I wouldn’t weep for his wallet. He is doing this for control, on HIS terms, nothing else. It’s what HE wants, not Meg, that’s important to him. Bottom line.
I cant help but keep reading about this man and his disgusting treatment of his daughter. Im currently in the process of cutting off my narcissist mother and it is hard as hell but i know for my own sanity i need to. I feel so sorry for Meghan going through this publicly. The amount of times ive heard “you’ve only got 1 mother”.. I dread to think how many times she has heard and read something along the same lines. People seem to think just because you share blood, they are entitled to treat you however they want without any repercussions.
I can’t imagine the guilt one would feel with parents like this. Life is simply too short to deal with manipulations, disrespect and cruelty, from anyone. Only you know what you’ve experienced.
The most selfish seem to get the most years. Don’t let someone else steal your time and peace as an adult.
Toxic is toxic, family or not. I’ve been there. If they do unacceptable things, then so be it. This man however doesn’t have a clue when to shut his trap. It’s gone beyond outrageous. It’s vile. If she does contact him then that will merit even more paid interviews. I feel so sorry for her. The tabloids are just as much at fault and just as tacky.
I had to cut family ties. Not parents but it is hard to do. It feels unnatural but it is necessary sometimes.
I’m so sorry that you’re going through that.
But there is a HUGE difference between BEING a father, and fathering a child. He is NOT a father in the true sense of the word. NO father would intentionally hurt his child, a child he loves. He’d rather cut off his own arm than do that. This one… FEH! Sperm donor all the way.
I have a friend named Kim with a horrible malignant narcissistic mother.
Do you live in Texas? 😀
Please don’t feel guilty cutting her out of your life. You deserve to be happy and to live your life free of her toxic influence.
I know it’s hard, I had to cut one of my sister’s out of my life.
He’s missing the point. SHE doesn’t want to see him. Meghan must have terrible nightmares about this side of her family. They are like stalkers.
Doria has been classy and quiet(everything TM and his two eldest children aren’t ) Has there been any information on why Doria and Thomas divorced all those years ago?
Thomas has been very careful not to say anything bad about her. I would not be surprised if she has a lot to say about their marriage. At some point if TM continues to harrass Meghan, she may decide to speak up
I think TM is going to start spilling about her first marriage.
@Snap Happy – what is there left to know about her marriage and split from Engelson?! That’s a dead issue, he’s moved on, didn’t he just have a little baby girl with his new significant other?
His comment in a different interview where he warned Harry to keep his hands off his daughter. Some people here thought he was alluding to something physical happening in the first marriage.
I can feel a reality tv show coming soon – Keeping up with the Markles. Poor Meghan, I feel sorry for her, having to deal with this in addition to joining the rather dysfunctional royals.
Most people were willing to give Tom the benefit of the doubt at the start regarding being naive in dealing with the press but his true colours are emerging now.
There already has been one -its called “Meet the Markles”. Also Tyler is getting his own show on his Hash farm.
I can’t believe it was only 9 mos. ago, that KP put out that classy statement “from both parents”, and we thought that wow… he’s SO different from his trashy kids… SMH… boy, were we conned!
So glad I missed seeing them
On a somewhat bright side, the more vile Thomas Markle reveals himself to be the more sympathy and compassion go to Meghan.
I hope you’re right and that people who dislike Meghan are at least feeling a bit of sympathy toward her situation with this Garbage Human. These TM stories literally make my stomach hurt.
This man has no self-awareness at all. He honestly can’t see that he’s coming across as shallow, pathetic, and dangerous. He keeps making these threats to just “show up” and demand to see her. I hope he gets arrested if he tries.
A night in London Lock up will change that.
His behaviour towards Meghan is inexcusable, but they cant arrest him if he tries to come here! That’s just silly, on what grounds? The Royals have no right after all the crap their own family members have gotten away with!
I bet Thomas Sr. lost it when the christening pictures of Prince Louis. With Meghan in the picture she is seen as part of the BRF.
He and his demon spawn Sam & Jr. are going to screw up. I bet their text, email & tweets are being surveilled.
I wonder if all these hard feelings got worse around last Christmas when Harry stated the royals are the family MM never had.
Though, it seems odd MM never brought Harry to MEX or LA to meet her father pre or post engagement. It’s quite strange.
Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if Meghan and Harry had been to LA during the past few years. And who knows-maybe her dad blew them off then if they’d planned to meet-which was why they sounded weird about him during their engagement interview.
I think we are seeing now that Meghan had very good reason for not introducing Harry to her father earlier on.
Remember, she’s known this vile man for 36 years. She’s dealt with his garbage her whole life. There was a reason she didn’t fly Harry down to Mexico at the first opportunity. She didn’t trust him then any more than she does now.
It’s not strange at all. It’s clearly a pattern of behavior.
Dude, shut up.
You know, this man only has a limited amount of things to say. Will there ever come a time when media outlets will pass?? I mean, he has no access to them so I’m not seeing what the draw is. The first couple times maybe but at this point, it’s old news.
I think the Sun knows that Tom Sr. is past his expiration date for inside royal gossip, therefore the rag broke up the interview. Sun probably paid peanuts to Daddio for a one shot, but Sun gets more clicks and more revenue for each posting.
“The Duchess of Sussex announces with deep regret that due to a long, private history of dysfunction in their relationship, she must discontinue all future contact with her father and half siblings. She and the Duke hope the media will respect their privacy in this painful but entirely necessary decision.
That’s what I’m hoping for, anyway!!
Never gonna happen. It would fuel the fire.
More likely to look like this;
“Their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were delivered of a boy/ girl [date, weight etc ].
The Queen, Chuck, and Ms Doria Ragland welcome the latest member to the family with joy.”
🙂
The thing is, the British tabloids are egging him on. They want him to come to London to cause a scene. If the police and security get involved, all the better.
I see Harry and Meghan doing the Nelson Mandela exhibit after this latest round of verbal diarrhea. Never complain, never explain. As far as I’m concerned Meghan has earned a Royal Family Order.
One of the more bizarre things to me is that Thomas has grandchildren already and has other kids, but he doesn’t seem to be paying any attention to them. He doesn’t seem to have a relationship with those already in his family but brings up wanting to be a grandfather to Meghan’s kids? When they don’t even exist?
You’d think Meghan was his only child, and that just shows his entitlement and expectations are based upon the fact that people he deems important are now involved. I mean, how are they all shunning him? The only one of the RF he knows at all is Meghan. Any real journalist should ask him why he’s so hyper concentrated on Meghan when he has other family as well. The man is unhinged.
Meghan and Harry’s children will be heirs to the British throne. His current five grandchildren are “commoners” with no blood ties to even a wealthy American family; therefore of no value to him. Trust me if those grandchildren were Kennedys or Bushes, of if Meghan had married a Kennedy or a Bush, he would be wilding out about them.
I understand and agree with what you’re saying, aquarius. I guess more to my point, there are many questions not being asked of this man that should be. I’m waiting for the so-called press to ask some questions more biting than. “What else would you like to say to Meghan?” you know?
Questions such as, why are you acting to obsessive over a daughter you don’t have photos with beyond the age of ten? You mention grandkids, you already have grandkids, what are your relationships with them like? If you rarely see or talk to those kids why you care about Meghan’s? That’s all. I guess I’d like to see him challenged, and mocked like he deserves. lol
Meghan and Harry’s maybe possible future kids are going to be so far down the line of succession it would take a huge disaster or something nefarious for them to ever sit on it. And that’s probably a good thing. I know it’s not her fault, but damn, those Markle’s are awful. Just awful. But now we know where the older kids get their craptastic and shitty behavior from. The UK Press is the problem here, they need to stop giving them attention and let them crawl back into their holds.
There are plenty of older pics with Meghan and Markle together. Whatever has happened with their relationship looks to have taken place in the last few years or so because they were in contact frequently whilst she was on Suits.
Her dad is just the worst. Someone could offer my dad 100 million and he wouldn’t speak a peep. Just all kinds of embarrassing.
Between this awful Father and the awful half-sister who are both selling stories/bitching about Meghan, I gotta say I feel sorry for her. All in the name of money, money, money and attention. As if they have achieved anything in their own lives. Meghan owes them nothing. Nothing.
I see this as emotional blackmail. The way to deal with nasty people such as these..Ignore them. That drives them batshit crazy.
IMO, Carol Middleton took a lot of snarky talk about her being pushy, bossy, had William wrapped around her finger, etc. she looks like a lovely, warm, caring parent vs. Meghan awful relatives.
Sigh. Carole Middleton’s shortcomings are hers alone but no one ever thinks she doesn’t love her children. She’s just a social mountaineer with outmoded values. She’s more of a caricature than a villain.
TM is just off the charts terrible so you can’t really compare him to anyone normal really. A lot of people look great next to him.
Wow @ the comments. I don’t think he has NPD. The media are toying with him and everyone is lapping it up. $$$
Perhaps he doesn’t have NPD and I too am leery of armchair diagnosing. What I consider and name is behaviour and although he may look like a harmless old doofus being manipulated by the media his words and actions tell a different story. He knows exactly what he is doing and he is doing it for entirely selfish reasons. Absolutely no question. If you truly love and respect someone and they ask you not to do something and you do it anyway, not once but over and over, that is an outright betrayal. Her other parent did not behave in this way and there is no excusing his choices and actions.
I mean, if not challenging him at all, and paying him to be able to say anything he wants is toying, I guess? From where I’m sitting he’s making out like a bandit for selling out his own daughter
Sure. Be more concerned with the comments and not his tacky so-not-a-victim behavior. Vonnie is that you?
No one is thumbing through their copies of the DSMV to discuss him but those of us who have dealt with Narcissists don’t need a degree to understand what we see. He is disturbed and disturbing to witness.
And save the innocent guileless old man excuse because apparently, NO ONE BELIEVES THIS.
Yep, like Vonnie, it’s the SOS, just like yesterday and the time before that, and so on. Gotta leave a shit stain on the thread. I’m thinking it must burn some people’s asses real good that Doria’s not giving them anything negative to talk about and poor old dotard Tom is all they’ve got to get their daily dose of ratchetness.
You are projecting your own experience onto her.
Claire, the media aren’t making him speak, and they’re not making him say the vile things he is saying any more than they can make Doria behave this way.
He’s an adult. He spent his working life in Hollywood, FFS. He’s not an innocent.
These are his choices.
His actions and words profess zero concern for his daughter’s wishes or wellbeing and that alone is enough to condemn him.
Sorry Claire but that tactic doesn’t work on me. I have a decent loving stellar father and mother. None of my siblings behave like the shameless Markles.
I am projecting what they put out back on them where it belongs.
People with character don’t do what they are doing. Loads of parents don’t sell out their successful children because they aren’t dirtbags.
He won TWO Emmys and worked in TV for years, on hit shows. He knows the business and the media. I don’t buy that he’s a vulnerable older man who just doesn’t know the ropes. His words tell his story. It’s about attention, history, fame, money. Not his daughter’s best interests and wishes.
He’s just replied, via TMZ, to the story that H&M are frustrated with him – says ‘all the have to do is speak to me’.
The man is just a nasty bully. A poster on Dlisted says that Daddy/Samantha created the story that they are ‘fustrated’ with him so that the paps would pay for him to reply – could totally see the Markles pulling that, esp as am not sure a ‘real’ royal source would speak to ET.
I bet he is someone who Google his name and read everything. Hello Thomas, do us all favor and shut up.
Seconded.
Digital – I totally believe that family is controlling and manufacturing “both sides” of this discussion in order to keep the tabloids watching and paying.
At one time near the wedding I thought maybe a good strategy for Meghan would be to have a third party, like a friend in California, contact him and tell him that after he’s gone silent for a while Meghan would reestablish controlled contact. But that every time he spoke to the press he resets the clock back to zero so to speak. I don’t think its possible for her to even have limited contact as he and Samantha are dying to have anything – a text, or a card etc to wave at the tabloids and prove he’s back inside again.
When he says things like “I won’t be ignored. I won’t be sidelined” I literally felt my gut clench for her. Ignoring him is really all they can do and yet it seems to infuriate him more.
Also I notice that while Samantha and the brother had plenty to say about how much support the father needs and how heartless it was to leave him alone for his stent procedure, I don’t see Samantha or Tom Jr. moving to Mexico to live with him and “support” him or bringing Tom Sr to their US homes to live. But Meghan should be doing that …
Exactly, those two are so “concerned” for their father that they both sit on their butts doing nothing for him themselves. It’s all fake and manufactured drama to keep themselves in the headlines.
He has truly shown his true colors.
We believed him to be some naive old man who just wanted to be there for his daughter but he’s clearly a vindictive monster with a streak like no other. It’s easy to see why he was left, alone, in Mexico with little contact with the outside world.
The Royal family is doing right by not responding to him.
I feel bad for her because no one should have their own parent do this to him. I never thought I would say thing but I’m glad she has found a family with Harry and the Royals. They are many things but they would never do THIS to each other, at least not in public and in such a humiliating way.
Did you see his new TMZ interview? He’s basically being vindictive. Stating that he finds it enjoyable that he’s getting under their skin and he will never stop giving interviews until they talk to him. He’s throwing a tantrum.
His direct quote from TMZ, “Tomorrow is my birthday, 74 years old, and I’m enjoying the fact that I can make the entire Royal Family not speak and maybe I can get a laugh out of the Duchess.”
The man’s a sadist.
Wow. Just…wow.
Here’s the thing I have always wondered about.
Let’s pretend that in some effed up parallel universe somewhere Meghan took them into the fold and gave them another chance, what does TM and even Samantha think that would look like ? I ask that seriously.
Does Samantha think that the RF would really be open and warm to her, does she think that Harry would not be repulsed by her. Does she really think her and Meghan would be close sisters or BFF’s again.
I don’t know about anyone else but I feel sick at the thought of Samantha being anywhere near Meghan or around her. She seriously gives me the creeps and not just because she looks like death warmed up. She just straight up looks evil and empty.
I firmly believe Thomas Markle Sr is out to do irreparable damage to Meghan not just by spewing bollocks. I expect if he could physically harm her at this point, he would. That rage he feels is dangerous and irrational and therefore quite capable of harming her if he could. Same about Samantha. Meghan should see them both only when they are dead.
I totally agree with you
That’s why I really hope Meghan or the royals have got Doria something kind of protection ie bodyguards. I wouldn’t put it past those people to try and hurt Doria to get to Meghan.
Or if it does get worse…bring her over for an extended holiday…she is the only one outside the fold living in LA, so is easier to get at.
Her father and certain media outlets are very transparent.
Meghan should continue to move forward with her life. Her father does not give a crap about her feelings.
Let’s focus on how supportive and quiet the crew of Suits were!
I had the best father ever. He passed in 2006 but that being said if my dad was like Meghan I wouldn’t even give him a 1st or 2nd thought I know its her dad but everyone parents children family have to give respect in order to get it and it sounds like he doesn’t give it so shouldn’t get it. I wouldn’t even give him access to me.
He is an awful, awful, person. And I feel terribly for Meg, I’ve been around toxic people before and the ONLY way to free yourself from them is by cutting them out completely. It’s so hard to do because you might love them a lot – but love doesn’t mean having to put up with being treated like trash. Markle will regret this in the end because he is destroying whatever relationship he had with his daughter. And once that’s gone, it is next to impossible to get it back.
Sending you hugs from across the pond, Meg!
It’s sad, but sometimes you need to cut toxic people out of your life, even if they are a parent. It doesn’t dismiss the good Thomas might have before, but, right now, she doesn’t need him or her half-siblings in her life. As many people have noted, the up-side of Thomas Markle’s acting up is that the BRF looks like a model family welcoming and protecting one of their newest members. Meghan still looks like she is enjoying her new life and being married to man she loves and who obviously loves and adores her. And, again as many people have said, the irony of the situation is that, if Thomas had remained silent, he would be invited to spend time with the BRF and would never want for anything. He and his older children have created a toxic situation where they can’t be trusted to talk or visit with Meghan. I hope this situation with her father and half-siblings brings her and Harry closer together and doesn’t pull them apart.
I think the RF need to consider another angle now.
It strikes me that its SM who is brokering all these interviews and handling the logistics.
Find a way to remove her from the equation and their whole house of cards falls apart.
No need to even speak to Senior, just somehow take his rabid mouthpiece out of the game….
I just saw a comment somewhere that gave me an idea. I think they should send Fergie out to this man when Scammy is in the Big Brother house to speak to him about the merits of speaking to the press.
She can give him an education on her experiences and the effect it has had on her life and her childrens life.
Every time he speaks another wall goes up between them. How he can’t see that is a complete mystery. He’s literally burnt every bridge, there is no repairing this.
Agreed, but emotionally abusive people lack the self awareness and empathy to see that. In his mind this is the only and correct approach.
From the sub-text so far I am guessing that next step is a faked medical emergency.
Scammy posted this message this morning:
“How about you pay tribute to your own father?
“Enough is Enough.”
“Act like a humanitarian. Act like a woman!”
“If our father dies I am holding your responsible !”
Her desperation for Meghan to call their father makes me wonder if they’re not prepped to record the conversation.
Is there NO ONE else in any of their lives that suggest to these nutters that “hey, maybe y’all are taking this too far”.
I feel bad for Meghan for having to deal with her toxic family in the public spotlight. Their mission seems to be to inflict maximum emotional pain upon her. 🙁
Keep your head high, Meghan. There are many who wish you well – the Celebitchy folks!