Katie Holmes & Jamie Foxx went out to dinner in NY: unbroken or forever casual?

I’m happy to see Jamie Foxx and Katie Holmes out together, even though their relationship still remains somewhat of a mystery. Jamie and Katie subtly addressed the rumors of a break-up by heading out to dinner in New York City on Monday night.

The casually-clad duo were spotted heading out to dine at Asian fusion spot TAO. Jamie was in a polo and white pants and Katie wore a white eyelet halter and shorts set which I’m not a fan of. It’s a little too “Hee Haw Honey” for my taste – I think the halter top is making me think that way. The shorts would be fine with a soft Oxford or something similar. I like the sandals though. But, I digress.

The couple arrived together in a black SUV and Jamie chivalrously helped Katie out of the vehicle. An eyewitness told E! News that the couple entered the restaurant “with some distance between them” but they definitely were together, sitting at a table in the back of the eatery after passing through the dining room unnoticed. The source went on to note that after about a 90-minute meal, they “left separately using different exits.” 

I don’t get all of the secrecy and separate exits and such. They were having dinner together, why all of the espionage? There’s been a lot of debate surrounding what’s going on between these two, with Jamie’s flirting and Katie’s trust issues seeing as the basis of the rumors of a split, but I think this has all been mere speculation and rumor.

Back in March, details about their relationship surfaced, with an US Weekly source asserting, “When they’re together, it works. When they’re not, they’re on their own. It’s what works for them.” And, just last month, a source told Entertainment Tonight that the rumors were fake news, stating,

“They’ve always lived very independent lives, but try to make time to see each other. It’s not uncommon for them to go long stretches without seeing each other,” a source tells ET. “And they’re still very, very private. You’re not going to hear or see every time they’re together because they don’t flaunt their relationship in public.”,

[From Entertainment Tonight]

It sounds like a casual thing, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It seems they have an understanding, and obviously, they’re still hanging out with each other. As long as they’re happy, does it really matter what their relationship status is?
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  1. Eleonor says:

    I didn’t escape from a cult, but after divorcing my ex I have been in a relationship which is similar to this one: I have my own money, my life and it will take ages for me to renounce to all the freedom I am used now. Also I don’t want to share my personal life too much.
    I feel committed, but this time I want a couple on my terms.I don’t know if this make sense. I know he is my person.

    • Aloe Vera says:

      I totally understand and agree. After that whole thing with Tom I’d want to guard my freedom too.

    • INeedANap says:

      I like this take. A girlfriend of mine was in an abusive marriage and while she is in a new relationship now, they are super low-key and she is almost mutinously independent. I can see that being true for Ms. Holmes.

    • noway says:

      100% agree. Even if Tom wasn’t the pseudo leader of a cult, after the over the top jumping on couches kind of relationship wouldn’t you just want something a bit more chill.

  2. Loopy says:

    I really don’t get how you can be casual for 5 plus years,clearly you must like each other so why not just be together.

    • SM says:

      That is my question. How long a relationship can be in a casual phrase and when do we start calling it a commitment issue?

    • TheHufflepuffLizLemon says:

      I think Eleanor has a good point above. I absolutely adore my husband and love being married, but our lives are incredibly intertwined-we know almost all each other’s friends, bosses, all our money is in the same accounts, etc etc. There’s very little space or privacy emotionally (obviously there’s literal space and privacy as needed.) If I lost him, I wouldn’t want to be alone, but I don’t know that I would want to start building all that again-and we’re HAPPY. If Katie was under control and surveillance for years, that complete freedom is probably incredibly valuable to her.

    • Jenns says:

      I can.

      I’m in my late thirties, single and childless by choice, because I really don’t want anyone living in my house, lol. A casual relationship would suit me just fine. The older I get, the more I realize that everyone has their own definition of a relationship. And people should do what works best for them without judgement from others.

      • Eleonor says:

        Divorced an in late 30′s, childless and perfectly fine. I don’t know if it’s “casual”, he is divorced too and we’ve been together for more than 3 years now. He is my lover, my partner, my best friend, my person, I can’t imagine no one else, at the same time I value my space and my own life.This works for me. People around me often don’t get our relationship, but I have learned to not care anymore about their opinions.

      • ladida says:

        Yes, me too. I am not meant for marriage which took me years to understand. It’s usually men who want a more serious commitment because they love to be taken care of. No thank you. I’m actually looking forward to getting older because these types of arrangements become more common, particularly as I meet increasingly older men who are divorced etc.

      • Embee says:

        Oh…you guys are killing me! I’m in my early forties, divorced and also “mutinously independent.” My partner of 4 years and I are trying the cohabiting thing and it is so hard. I promised I would give it a year but damn I want to run. Which is part of why I stay because it’s ok to leave for a reason but I don’t want to leave because I’m reacting to my prior abusive situation. I also listened to and really learned a lot from the podcast one of the writers linked to earlier in the week – The Good LIfe Project interview with Susan Piver – excellent, mature analysis of romantic relationships as seen through the lens of the Buddhist principle of the Four Noble Truths.

      • Celebitchy says:

        Embee I’m so glad I saw your comment. I don’t want to get too personal but your story resonated with me and I’m glad the podcast helped you.

      • Nikki says:

        Oddball here! It all started w/menopause: if I’m sweating every 30 minutes, I don’t want a warm body next to me. Then I developed trouble sleeping, so his snoring drove me crazy, and I started sleeping in another room (though we still enjoy “amour”) . We recently retired and moved, and we bought a BIGGER HOUSE for just the 2 of us, than the one we’d raised our 3 kids in! ( It’s not aMcMansion, just an old funky place w/ space to get away from each other). The kicker: my husband wants to build an addition that’s like another wing; I think he basically needs his own house! (We love each other a ton though.)

  3. Snowflake says:

    I love these two together. She might be leery of getting into a relationship after Tom. If it works for them, that’s all that matters.

  4. Mego says:

    Her marriage to Tom was a nightmare with him controlling her every move and the media stalking her and her child. I remember some of the photo ops that Tom arranged and the look on her face was haunting. I can totally understand her wanting a relationship on very different terms now and Jamie is fine with it.

    Her outfit in the pic does not flatter her at all as it is meant for a petite woman.

  5. Barrett says:

    Her problem is her clothing style, her problem is not whatever she has going on w Jamie!

    • Pandy says:

      LOL agree! Her clothing choices are usually not the best. Hey, they’re doing better than Miley and Liam … so something is working.

    • ladida says:

      She has a similar body to me – tall and “womanly”, not short and girlish. I’ve had to accept that I can’t get a way with anything frilly or cute.

    • Wellsie says:

      At least she’s stopped blaming Suri for her choices.

  6. Bishg says:

    As much as I like Foxx, I’m stil rooting for Pacey + Joey (it seems unlikely, but who knows?)

    • Mrs. Harrison Ford says:

      Pacey & Joey forever!

    • cf86713 says:

      Funny you should mention that I remember reading in the rags months ago Josh/Katie were talking again and Jamie was jealous(sounds like BS but still funny)

  7. Goldie says:

    Why do people keep assuming that they have a “casual” relationship? It may be unconventional but I wouldn’t call it casual. To me casual means that you are not in love, just meeting up for sex and fun. I could be wrong, but I’m guessing that at some point over the past 5 years, they have said “I love you” to each other.
    I know a lot of people are rooting for them, but I was actually hoping that they had broken up. Jamie seems like a misogynistic douche, based on some interviews of his. I also find it sad that even in a staged photo op that was meant to quell split rumors, he still goes to such great lengths to avoid being seen with her. He has no problem being photographed partying with and showing affection to random women in a club, but heaven forbid you stand by your supposed girlfriend’s side.
    Sure, maybe it’s Katie’s choice to act like this, but Jamie just rubs me the wrong way in general.
    Sorry for my rant.

    • I agree with you. We seem to want the distance to be all Katie’s idea and blame it on Tom. I’ve seen and heard many interviews over the years from this dude and he has never come across as loyal or particularly respectful towards women. I very much hope she is on board and this is a fulfilling relationship regardless of public status, but it does seem off to me.

  8. Jsj says:

    My bet is they’re definitely breaking up and we will hear about it in a few months.

  9. Mellie says:

    I love her but that outfit is the most awful thing I’ve seen in awhile.

  10. Millenial says:

    re: the outfit: Why go to the effort of wearing what you obviously think is a cute outfit and shoes, and then not do your hair or makeup?

    Anyways, she seems happy with whatever terms their relationship is on, or she wouldn’t still be doing it five+ years later. I think she’s reached the stage in life where she doesn’t need/want another marriage and Jaime is fine af so she’s just rolling with it. Can’t say I blame her.

  11. annie says:

    I think she is happy with the way things are, because the long distance thing , him in LA, and her in NY could be different , Katie has a nice house in LA, close to him, but she chooses to live there.
    My take is, Katie likes Jamie , but not his complicated family situations, or ex partner who doesn’t like their relationship, because of their daughter. I think they like just being together , the 2 of them in their world. I really believe that. I also think that maybe Tom would not want Jamie in Suris life, and I think that maybe Tom and Katie made a pact about future partners, maybe not being brought home.
    You don’t hear anything about what Tom is doing, if he has anyone it is a big secret as well. This is coming from a man that went from one relationship to another quite quickly, but this time round, nothing, there is a lot that we don’t know about, it has been 6 yrs now.
    But there is something that draws Katie to Jamie, maybe in private ,he is really nice, but there are things that I don’t like about him, and to be honest I too hoped they broke up, but if Katie and him enjoy each other , friends with benefits, or no strings attached or whatever, and she doesn’t want marriage , and wants her independance, and they like each others company ,well so be it I guess,

  12. tw says:

    Tao, seriously? Just go to Catch while you’re at it. There are plenty of low key, amazing restaurants in NYC. Why go somewhere to be seen and then pretend you don’t want to be seen?

  13. themummy says:

    Let’s address the real issue here. How in the ever-lovin’ HELL could she look at herself in the mirror wearing that ridiculous atrocity of an outfit and decide to go out like that???? It’s awful. She looks like a giant diaper-wearing baby or something. So, so bad.

  14. Amelie says:

    I just think the whole thing is weird. I got in the beginning, Katie probably being gun-shy to be in a new relationship after the hell she lived with Tom. However I don’t understand the cloak and dagger routine so many years later. If you don’t want to talk about your relationship to the press, that’s fine. If you don’t want to be photographed together, okay (Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin rarely doing red carpets together comes to mind). However this whole subterfuge thing and exiting the restaurants through two separate doors just seems ridiculous. Unless Kate is still paranoid she might be tailed by members of the COS… which doesn’t make sense because you see her out in public with Suri all the time. I remember they were at the PreGrammys hosted by Clive Davis and sat near each other. Katie tried to slip out of the room as Clive was about to shout out to her and he totally called her out haha and was like “We all know you’re together, you can stop pretending you’re not!” And maybe it’s Jamie who is super secretive but it just seems rude to hide Katie like she’s some dirty secret. They don’t have to give up some big statement but we all know they’re together (or whatever it is they consider their relationship), they can stop pretending like they just happen to be in the same vicinity as each other.

  15. Vanessa says:

    Maybe Katie just doesn’t want another ‘permanent’ relationship after her ordeal with the cult.

  16. Pinar Okur says:

    At this point i think they are really good friends – not more

  17. annie says:

    I love Katie, always have from the very beginning. Katies biggest problem, is…….she is too real for the job she does. She wears what she wants, goes without makeup when she wants, comes out of the shower with wet hair, and out the door, Sometimes she doesn’t care if she wears mismatched clothes, but she is always gorgeous when the occasion calls for it.
    However saying that, she is in the public eye, and sometimes , well you have to play the game, not the look at me kind of game, with naked selfies, Kardashian like, or the rest of them who are 50, but try desperately to act 30 or less, but this is a girl who can put everyone to shame , but it’s like she can’t be bothered at times.
    Maybe that’s why after winning a modelling comp at 16, she said she didn’t want it, because she couldn’t imagine being in front of a mirror all day long, and didn’t pursue it.
    Who gives up an opportunity like that, and turns down the opportunity to return to Batman, or taking 2 years off to have and be with her baby, when her career was taking off in the movies……….Katie Holmes does!
    In other words she really doesn’t know how to play the celebrity star game, she doesn’t seem to have that hunger that most of them have, and probably never will, which is a shame , because she lets herself down sometimes!

  18. Rachael says:

    I get that famous people may not want to live out their personal lives in public and be low key but this is beyond low key – when they are all secretive like this I just start wondering what they are hiding.