My expectation was that Donald Trump was going to shut down the government over his stupid wall and then he was going to f–k off to Mar-a-Lago for Christmas. Instead, he stayed at the White House for Christmas and rage-tweeted and rage-called children. On Christmas Eve, Trump spoke on the phone to kids who were calling into NORAD’s Santa Tracker. Since Trump lacks the intelligence God gave a fruit fly, he totally screwed it up. How difficult it is to screw up short phone calls to kids on Christmas? All you have to ask is “what do you want Santa to bring you for Christmas?” or “what Christmas candy did you eat?” or “what’s your favorite Christmas song?” or literally ANYTHING. Behold:
A little girl from South Carolina looking to track down Santa Claus’ location on Christmas Eve ended up having an expected conversation with Donald Trump. Collman Lloyd, 7, called NORAD Santa Tracker on Monday night and was redirected to the president himself.
When connected, Lloyd and Trump talked about her plan to leave St. Nick and his reindeers treats. She explained she intended on putting out cookies and hanging out with her friends before heading to bed, according to a video obtained by Post and Courier and WISTV.
“Well, you just have a good time,” Trump told the young girl before asking, “Are you still a believer in Santa?”
Lloyd responded, “Yes, sir.”
However, Trump asked her, “Because at 7, it’s marginal, right?” Though she did not understand what the word “marginal” meant, according to the reports, the child responded, “Yes, sir.”
Lloyd opened up about her conversation with the president explaining to The Post and Courier that she had no idea Trump was on the other line. Nonetheless, Lloyd was taken aback by the fact that she had the opportunity to talk to the president.
“I was like, ‘Wow.’ I was shocked,” Lloyd told the Post and Courier. “It wasn’t really [nerve-wracking), I just had to think of what the truth was,” Lloyd continued to the outlet.
There’s video too, because of course there is. You can just tell how uncomfortable he is speaking to kids in any way, shape of form. Which is just a reminder that all of his wives were the ones raising his children, and he had nothing to do with his kids when they were little. Well, except for Ivanka. But Precious Ivanka learned to talk to her dad, not the other way around.
Donald Trump, answering phone call from 7-year-old on Christmas Eve: "Are you still a believer in Santa? Because at seven it's marginal, right?" pic.twitter.com/VHexvFSbQ1
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) December 25, 2018
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
Luckily the kid remains clueless. But OF COURSE the kid was from a nice safe red state. Can’t risk having a liberal kid question Cheeto Mussolini’s policies live on the phone!
In other news, despite the government shutdown detained and juvenile (mostly unaccompanied minors) dockets in immigration courts are still operational. And ICE keeps dropping released detainees off at the Greyhound station in El Paso, TX with little more than the clothes on their backs.
Santa Mueller needs to end this POS. NOW.
That was my first thought too. No way was the kid being from a red state a coincidence.
Lucky that 7 y.o.’s don’t know what “marginal” means, so DON’T tell her, k?
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Some DT fan can now tell us why it’s a good thing to take a child’s innocence.
Actually, it wouldn’t be the first time if it’s Trump, would it? If you’ve heard the rumors.
Wow, could he have phrased that any worse? Does the child STILL believe in Santa. Wish the child would say: government is shut down and I’m told my Christmas will be a bit leaner since Daddy is not getting paid. But tell me how Your Christmas is Mr. President.
We were howling about this on Christmas Eve. What an ignorant douchebag.
No kidding!
When my sister and I were kindergarteners (me first, her the year following), our parents sat us down and gave us the Jewish version of “The Talk,” which basically went like this: “You will NOT TELL YOUR CLASSMATES that there is no such thing as Santa Claus.”
It is one of the biggest no-no’s for children.
Great job to your parents! We have a pack of kids in our hood that run together and the older ones are absolutely on board with keeping it fun for the littles.
I only knew that my son knew when he came to me and said that he knew, but would keep pretending for his little sister. She would tiptoe close to the knowledge and always walk away again. It all came out the year that someone asked where a particular gift came from and I had forgotten that was the “Santa” gift. My daughter was equally outraged and happy that she finally knew. “You’re Santa, and you’re the Easter Bunny, and …I think you’re the Tooth Fairy too!”
I really like your parents. That was very sweet of them.
He must be sooo pissed to have to be at the White House for Christmas. He has a nice home and bed to sleep in, unlike those children locked in cages and away from their families at Christmas. Coal is too good for his stocking, a massive turd from one of Santa’s reindeer is a better gift.
He’d love coal in his stocking. (“MAKING COAL GREAT AGAIN!!!”)
I spat out my coffee…with Bailey’s…WORTH IT!! MCGA made me laugh thank you @cannibell!!
Make sure it’s nicely washed clean coal.
He’s such a gd idiot.
Poor kid had a nightmare before Christmas of a marginal Orange turd with mange-infested opossum fur on top floating in a toilet bowl of lies, crimes, and dissolved Ritalin. I hope the kid got a super-sized spray bottle of disinfectant to cleanse the bowl of the malodorous funk.
“mange infested opossum fur”
I am dying here!
LOL😂😂😂
And another little child has died at the border..so enjoy your gilded holiday, you soulless waste of space..
I wouldn’t allow my daughter to speak to this president
The child was not “allowed” to speak to Trump. She called the NORAD line and was directed to him. It’s usually a nice little tradition that a few kids on Christmas Eve get to speak to the President – but that has always presumed that the President is able to conduct himself in an appropriate manner.
They need to keep him away from children . Let Melania handle it. She’s a normal human being and knows how to talk with children.
Remember the picture of the traumatized kids in Halloween costumes around The Donald? He didn’t know how to talk to them either. Their parents should have known better.
When Ivanka’s parents divorced, some nasty schoolmates told her she wasn’t a Trump anymore, which really bothered her. She was quite young (she’s the middle child, I think Don Jr was about 12) and developed the habit of calling her father every day to ask him about his day. How backwards. He’s the one that should have been calling all his kids and asking about THEIR day. Even as a child, Ivanka had to be the one to do all the work to maintain a semblance of a relationship with him. He is going to toss her under the nearest bus to save his own skin regardless.
Honestly, this is the least offensive thing he did in the last few days. Which isn’t saying much.
it’s a also (probably) the first time in his life that he decided to tell the truth.
He proves everyday that he is heartless and has no soul. It was surprising that he used a word like ‘marginal’. I wouldn’t even think he’d know what it means, but thankfully it looks like the 7 year old child didn’t realize what Trump meant
Not to mention quite a few kids cling to the magic for many years past 7. Anyone with a shred of humanity wouldn’t even get into the “belief” part of the equation, not wanting to risk inadvertently breaking a kid’s heart. He’s pure garbage, insecure and needy to the core.
^Yes, they do. My daughter is now 9 years old and she still believes in Santa, wholeheartedly. She also has a few friends/classmates who do, too. What Trump said to the child, really enraged me. Doesn’t he have any awareness that his careless, stupid words could ruin a child’s Christmas??!? He’s such a moronic nitwit, it’s just so infuriating.
I was still a believer at seven, although I had explained away the multitude of Santa’s in stores and on the street by assuming they were simply helping Santa out since he couldn’t be in more than one place at once. So I was free to feel creeped out by sitting in their laps. Santa just didn’t do the extreme vetting required very well.
I was still getting a present from Santa well into adulthood, but his handwriting looked mysteriously like my mother’s. Funny I never noticed that as a kid. Maybe they went to the same elementary school.
I have 9 year olds believing also. What an idiot. Why does he think she would being calling NORAD if she didn’t believe in Santa?
I have younger siblings and we’re all close in age, so my mother kept the Santa charade for longer than she probably would have if I’d been an only child. I remember when I was 9 and in a new school, my classmates told me in no uncertain terms there.was.no.Santa.
Oh I became so torn–who to believe, my new classmates or my mom?? 🙂
I felt seriously betrayed when I realized I had been lied to. I wonder how many kids feel that way?
It also proves he is stupid. The kid was routed to him because the kid called the NORAD line for tracking Santa. I think if a child is calling NORAD to begin with, it is safe to presume that the child believes in Santa. Why else would they call that line? He truly amazes with his ignorance.
Exactly. I had parents tell me their kids didn’t believe in Santa after age 5 but that their kid(s) kept their mouth shut for the sake of not ruining it for others. Its pathetic the 72 yr old POTUS can’t do the same. No matter if this kid was 7 or 15 if they are calling NORAD they still believe so shut your trap Shrump.
Honestly, I laughed a little when I read this, because I have always found the lengths some parents go to preserve the Santa thing a bit odd (we are more of a “Jesus is the reason for the season” family). But it does speak to how Trump is wholly inadequate for the Presidency. He fails at all aspects of it – even those that most people could do fine – talking to kids about Santa, addressing the troops, the Boy Scouts, comforting families of deceased soldiers, consoling disaster victims, etc. He is truly incapable of it all.
My parents kept the Santa magic alive until I was around 12. I think part of the reason was bc my brother was 4 years younger than me so I wanted to keep it alive for him. We were/are also a non religious agnostic family so it was a way to keep the Christmas spirit alive even though we weren’t your traditional church going family like the rest of my mom’s siblings.
Personally, I believe that Christmas can be a magical season without the Santa story. It’s a season that for a lot of people, is full of a spirit of generosity and kindness that can be lacking at other times.
I also worried about selling the Santa story to my kids. I never want my children to feel as though their parents lie or are untrustworthy. I did read some pieces written by experts who caution that some children can feel deceived or upset about their parents perpetuating the untruth. So we opted against it. Now, my kids know about Santa – they just don’t think he’s physically real. We got a book that tells the story of the real Saint Nicholas, and we explain that he is the basis for the Santa story, and that Santa today is a spirit – of generosity and caring – that lives in all people. But they don’t think there’s an actual guy living at the North Pole who flies around the world. I think that’s healthy for them.
You find it weird that people lie to their kids about Santa but you don’t see the parallels with you telling your own children that god had a magical son? Don’t judge people that want to keep Santa Alive when you actively teach your kids about a figure no less imaginary
I actually plan on using Santa to teach my children about religion. I think it’s a good way to explain how the process of indoctrinating people from birth works. “Imagine if we all continued to pretend Santa was real even with no evidence but we just all agreed we’d Believe he’s real no matter what and criticize those that don’t believe so they fear coming out as non believers”
It’s litterally the perfect way to explain to them in a way they can understand
Stock market down – check
2 children dead – check
Ruining 7 year olds belief in Santa – check
New Guinea pig for bald spot – check
Alienate all USA allies – check
Create more racial hatred- check
Line pockets with government purloined monies – check
Make Putin happy and more powerful- check
Of course there is more, but just a reminder that the above list happened all last week. George, Thomas and Benjamin are rolling over in their graves.
What did he do to his hair? It looks even worse.
He’s really like those cartoon supervillains isn’t he? Funny but mostly sad.
That is some chaos-dunk levels of shade from the seven year old in the interview.
Love that the kid was so concerned about being truthful – to Trump, of all people.
Imagine if Obama had even slightly hinted that Santa isn’t real (he would never but still lol). Conservatives would be crying that he hates Christmas and Jesus and all of that and totally blowing it out of proportion 🙄
I absolutely loathe Trump and everything he stands for but I just read an interview with the parents of the little girl he spoke with and they said that they were very happy with the phone call and conversation. According to her parents, he didn’t hurt their daughter’s feelings at all. His “joke” went over their daughter’s head so it didn’t affect her negatively. While I think he has zero social skills especially when it comes to children, if the child and her parents were happy with their conversation then I’m not going to waste my time hating on this.
But it gives you a glimpse of Barron’s life and that gives me shivers. Can you imagine how little joy and magic this kid was allowed to enjoy even if Melania tries her best to keep the Dotard away from her son?
I agree. He just can’t relate to anyone it seems, especially children. I just hope Melania nurtures, loves and shows affection to Barron to make up for all that Trump lacks in Barron’s life. That young man definitely needs it. My heart breaks for him.
Serious non-judgemental question. As someone who never believed the santa claus myth, was never taught it, never celebrated, etc, how do kids usually take finding out santa claus isn’t real? Are they mad at their parents for lying to them or just sort of blase about it?
To be honest, I dont remember so I must have not taken it too hard.
I figured it out myself. My dad has very distinctive printing and I knew chances were slim that Santa had it too. It was no big deal. I still got nice gifts either way. 😂
I’m interested in this too. As a kid, I was immersed in all kinds of fantay worlds ( ftom books and my own imagination). As much as I wanted them.to be real, I knew they weren’t.
ETA: I guess what I’m saying is I totally get teaching kids about Santa same as reading them a storybook. Surely kids mostly know?
Mine were not outraged, just sort of disappointed but not really heartbroken. I think by the time they are told “the truth” by their parents, most kids already suspect or know, thanks to peers or older siblings. I had to talk to my oldest son about it twice, though, lol because the first time it didn’t take. He listened and nodded along and then went right on wholeheartedly believing for another year before I told him again because I was afraid he’d get teased.
I caught my parents being Santa as a child. At first I was slightly sad and confused but then I realized that it took effort for my parents to be Santa and put on this ‘show’ for us + more presents + continuing the Christmas folklore…we forgave the parents. It was totally a milestone of childhood; gah my siblings and I were too honest too – we told the parent on Christmas that we found out (we should have kept them going for a few more years lol) and that was actually a good-bye to Santa. We then found a new Christmas family activity – buying a family board game and playing together to replace Santa lol. Even as kids, we never saw it as our parents lying to us. They were just trying to make us happy Re the Christmas festivities etc. We understood and moved on pretty quick.
No real reaction from my kids. They enjoyed it when they believed and now they enjoy picking out their own candy for their stockings. 🤷🏻♀️
I didn’t like being lied to by my parents as a kid and I don’t lie to my kids so we don’t do Santa. Plus who wants to sit on an old guy’s lap?
my kid knew long before I knew he knew…he was keeping up the pretense not just for me though. He was a clever lad, and he thought if I knew he knew maybe there wouldn’t be a gift from Santa under the tree. Eventually we both knew what we knew and there is always a present from ‘Santa’ for him under the tree. He’s 35!! My sister sends stuff for my stocking and I do his. Now he’s an adult we focus way more on the Reason for the Season, but still..Santa is magic (not the commercial Santas though, they are gross some of them).
Don’t remember when I found out and my children and grandchildren are okay with it. I try to explain it as that it is more the spirit of the season than one person who is Santa. But I also try to keep that spirit alive all year long.
I’m pretty sure I didn’t let on when I figured out the real deal. My mother enjoyed it so much! And there were more presents that way…. I can’t even remember when I no longer believed in Santa. It must have been a very easy transition, no trauma or drama involved.
So I doubt that I considered my mother had “lied” to me about it. She was just trying to do something nice for us. Maybe to make up for the fact that she ruined Santa for her younger sister prematurely by dragging her over to the closet with all the hidden presents. My aunt, who must have been very young (maybe even just five or six), was crushed.
I did have a UNICEF book when I was six or seven that was filled with little stories about how people celebrated Christmas all over the world, with all the variations on Santa Claus. I also knew about the real St. Nicholas who was a bishop that loved children and would bring them presents. I dimly recall an awful story we heard in parochial school about some nasty person feeding him a murdered child, but God magically made the dish into something else. I think. It was gruesome nonetheless. The Catholic version of Hansel and Gretel at risk of being baked in an oven by the mean witch in the gingerbread house.
None of this apparently shook my faith in Santa Claus for some reason. People are quite capable of holding contradictory views simultaneously at any age.
When I figured it out, I was pretty blase about it. The whole story always seemed fishy. ( We lived in a 1 bedroom apartment. Where was Santa getting in or out?)
My mother, on the other hand, was PISSED that I didn’t believe at 6 yo any more. She felt like I robbed her of something and kept going through the charade for a couple more years.
Awkward.
I think most of us sort of naturally figure out that it doesn’t make sense. Just like you stop being afraid of monsters under the bed and stuff like that. At some point we don’t need to believe in those things and so we stop and it’s alright. But I was also born in an atheist family so there was nothing we were ever taught to truly believe in.
My parents were very low-key: Santa only gave one gift, the others were from them and our grandparents/aunts/etc., Santas in malls were of course fake, had we wished to sit on their lap and talk to them, they’d probably said they were in communication with the real Santa and could send him our requests but we were ok with writing a letter, we probably left some cookies but we didn’t care much about trying to stay awake to see Santa or things like that. One thing we loved was that instead of having Advent calendars, my parents would leave one treat in the tree everyday that we’d have to look for like chocolates or dates stuffed with marzipan; we never really believed that the tree was producing them, we probably always thought that it came from mom and dad, but it was fun to look for them every morning.
I’m still afraid of monsters under the bed.
In what kind of warped world do we live in where an innocent child calls a Santa tracker and gets rerouted to Agent Orange? Why would anyone do that to a kid? 🤦🏼♀️
The nightmare before Christmas?
The Grinch that stole Christmas?
There might be some more that I’m forgetting..
Oh hurt me, My3cents. The Nightmare Before Christmas is my all-time favourite movie, hands down. No way in hell does that rotten, pus-riddled curse upon humanity get to be mixed up with one of the most imaginative movies made. Nopity, nope, nope, nope.
Yes, he had a hand in raising ivanka. Cuddle. Grope. Squeeze. Made her the plastic monster she is today.
Apparently, Barron spent Christmas apart from his parents. Lucky boy. Probably one of his best Christmases.
Emotional incest is such a creepy thing. Like, it’s not abusive in the recognized ways, so it’s hard to call out a parent who’s doing that.
I have no proof, but I suspect Ivanka’s incest wasn’t just emotional.
@Betsy. Even if IT didn’t happen, there was way too much touchy feely, going by the creepy photos that are public. I hate to imagine what’s not publuc.
So, the President of US makes phone pranks for Christimas right?
Smh. A 20 year old on the spectrum told my 5 year old about Santa last year. I was upset but she doesn’t understand it’s rude to do that so I let it go. He couldn’t be more of a disgrace.
It’s just so blinkered and vile to say anything that might puncture the Santa myth for a kid who is not your own. It’s so trumpy, basically.
I’m honestly confused myself by what he meant when he said it is marginal. What is marginal, believing in santa? Such a strange thing to say but he tends to say strange, inappropriate things to kids. Remember when he told a child at Halloween how she thankfully didn’t have a weight problem so she could eat the candy.
I think he meant at age 7 some kids have learned the truth that Santa isn’t real. He believes 7 is the marginal age where they learn the truth. I think it’s more around age 10 though. But the fact the little girl wanted to call NORAD means she still believes in Santa but dumbf*ck Trump is too stupid to put two and two together.
It’s also false since about 60% of 7yo in the US do believe in Santa. It drops under 50% past 9. But I have no doubt that Trump was never allowed himself to believe in Santa or enjoy Christmas (or childhood), his own dad seemed like a monster, so he probably doesn’t understand how other little children can be allowed to enjoy imaginary things or people because that would require empathy and selflessness and he certainly thinks that such dispositions make you weak
good assessment
He can’t even do the most BASIC things correctly! He’s so incompetent.
We emigrated to Sweden when I was young and when our Swedish “sponsor family” told us about Santa, we thought it was just a tradition and that everyone was in on “the joke”. I therefore told all the kids at pre-school that Santa wasn’t real. In Sweden Santa doesn’t come down the chimney, but shows up on Xmas Eve to hand out presents – usually the dad goes out “to buy the paper” (I was young in the 80’s), dresses up as Santa and hands out the presents. Then dad comes back home having just missed him.
It never occured to me that kids wouldn’t figure out it was their dad; it was so obvious – but I was raised by straightforward and straight talking parents. My mother couldn’t understand why anyone’d tell their kids that some random man gave them gifts; she wanted us to know that she worked hard for what we got and that people don’t just randomly hand you gifts.
TLDR; I told kids Santa wasn’t real, but I’d never do that as an adult. Just cos I don’t believe in something doesn’t give me the right to ruin other people’s beliefs.
I wish the press would stop falling for the stock market scam. The press is going on and going about how the stock market was at an all time high today. It’s obvious why it’s high today. It’s damage control. The highs can not be trusted because the Dotard has employed people like Wilbur Ross who have a history of messing around with the stock market for personal gain. If you read Bill Browder’s book, there are also Russians who know how to manipulate the stock market. The press declared that the stock market was doing well(even though stores were raising prices) and when there were drops one expert said that it was probably because the highs that occurred earlier in the year were probably false. The press needs to stop being so stupid. How can there be an all time high in the stock market today when people aren’t getting paid, those impacted by the shutdown reported returning Christmas gifts so that they can pay their rent and bills, and stores are still raising prices or taking weeks to get certain products on their shelves? The press has one job to do and they keep failing.
There are so many truths that the 1 day record can’t erase:
* We just had the worst Christmas Eve EVER on record
* This is still the worst December since 1931
* The S&P 500 are close to entering a “bear market”
* The economy is global. When Trump creates instability with threats to the Fed or when he wages tariff wars, our economy will suffer along with other markets.
Stunning right? And on his secret trip to visit troops in Iraq he was introduced to a Navy chaplain. A 7 year old child would have spoken more appropriately to that chaplain than idiot boy. Trump treated the man like he was a contestant on Lets Make a Deal. And now the poor man’s face us all over Twitter thanks to the orange dumbf**k who has to stroke his own ego by Tweeting about all the “great” things he is doing. Isn’t it just wonderful to have a president who has no idea what he is doing and has fired or alienated all of his staff who could help him and the few who are left, he won’t listen to anyway. 😰
Omg. The photo of them on the phones is screaming “caption this”. There has got to be a meme out there? Going to check now.
He’s such a dumbass dork