The French press is openly writing about the Prince William-Rose Hanbury story


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The affair story continues to slowly percolate throughout the American media. Most American media outlets have run stories about Prince William, the Duchess of Cambridge and the Marchioness of Cholmondeley (Rose Hanbury), even if those stories are just vague “we don’t really know what happened” recaps. What’s interesting is that while international media outlets (American press, French press, gossip blogs) are openly discussing the details, the British press has been silent for about two full weeks. Their silence is likely because they’re scared of William’s lawsuit threats, which the Daily Beast detailed. William apparently thinks it’s a human rights violation to gossip about whether or not he’s banging a marchioness. Anyway, I saw this tweet yesterday:

The point of that tweet – from a journalist in Paris – is that the French papers and magazines are going to do the same thing the American press has been doing, which is continue this steady hum on innuendo and unnamed-source reporting. But I was curious about what Vanity Fair France has written, so I asked all of my French-speaking Celebitches to help a bitch out. Here are some translated highlights, translations courtesy of my Twitter friends Just Juliette and Biquette:

Not the first time. VF France says “it’s not the first time” William and Kate have faced these kinds of rumors but with the Rose Hanbury situation, the Cambridges “seem shaken and destabilized.”

KP is doing everything to kill the rumor. VF France points out that Kensington Palace is doing a lot behind the scenes to kill the rumors, but they aren’t denying the rumors outright. There are threats of lawsuits, but the palace knows that if they actually file a lawsuit, it would be “unprecedented” and “add fuel to the fire.”

The affair is possibly the reason for William & Harry’s falling out. VF France basically just uses Nicole Cliffe’s theory, that Harry found out about William’s affair and that’s what the major beef between them has been this whole time and that Harry “couldn’t understand William’s attitude.”

The Cholmondeleys were cut off. VF France theorizes that the rumors basically started because Kate completely cut off the Cholmondeleys and asked the Turnip Toffs to do the same without explanation, and that’s why there’s been so much gossip within the Toff set. The Sun apparently “received a warning from the Palace in attempt to shut down the story.” But: “This infidelity is supposedly an open secret waiting to be spread on the public place.”

Rose Hanbury’s wild past: “Rose H, 34, is the perfect figure to attract the gossips and feed the tabloids. Before having a prosperous marriage, she was a Brit model, or more specifically an it-girl who used to live on booze nights and photo shots. In the 2000’s, she was one of the London most fancied [socialite] and she was rumored to have a flirt with Hugh Grant.”

[From Vanity Fair France, via translations by Just Juliette and Biquette]

VF France also adds a bit at the end about how all of this is bringing back the ghost of Princess Diana, because cheating and affairs and all that. I maintain that Diana and Charles were their own thing, a tragedy of a young woman who got thrown to the proverbial wolves from Day 1. William and Kate have their own thing. I’m starting to wonder if this affair story is going to die out though – William really seemed to scare the f–k out the British outlets and now no one is saying anything new.

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232 Responses to “The French press is openly writing about the Prince William-Rose Hanbury story”

  1. ByTheSea says:

    Bwah ha ha ha ha. But they never put a foot wrong, so there’s that.

    • Heather says:

      It’s obvious a rumor started by Meghan to distract from her not wanting anyone to park anywhere in England ever while she’s having contractions. /s

    • Lindublin says:

      All the Cambridges family on parade this weekend. Did anyone see the Cambridge kids on parade this weekend? Suddenly William grottene out the kids , good PR , is it a move to show happy family, nothing to the rumour!

      Cute photos though and George is getting so tall. Adorable.
      William the happy family man.

  2. Ana says:

    There it goes for Willy who thinks he can control everything in the world.

    • IrisQueen says:

      William’s camp or William going to Richard Kay to slap down the story was a big mistake.

      • Anon says:

        William really needs to rethink his employment of the dumb and ineffectual Jason Knauf. Seriously, their PR is stuck in a 1990′s time machine.

    • JanetSewsItUp says:

      But it has worked, hasn’t it? Plenty of Harry and William’s bad behaviour has been kept from the tabloids with threats. Just like Markle’s titty video.

      • Salvation says:

        There’s nothing that Harry has done that Knauf has kept out of the media, nothing. Even his naked butt in Vegas was put on blast for everyone to see. The vid on Meghan’s tits was either hacked or something, so it was not in the tabloids just because it was acquired illegally. Just like the video and pictures of Kate giving William a BJ on some balcony in France was/were not published because they were obtained illegally. Kate’s multiple episodes of flushing the public were published because there were more than British media to capture everything so Knauf could do nothing about it, simple as that.

      • Mae says:

        The Sun (i believe) published a compilation of Meghan’s scenes from Suits and other films/tv shows and straight up lied that it was a porn video. They were threatened with a law suit and they retracted and admitted their deceit. There is NO porn video of Meghan. The tin hatters have been salivating over this and they keep claiming that any day now a video will be published. Lol, the idiots. Also, the topless picture of Meghan was hacked and it was also taken down due to threats of lawsuits.

      • norah says:

        yeah meghan has been accused of bs non stop and nobody sends writs against the press but for william they bend over backwards to save his ass ?

  3. Margareth says:

    I can’t stand the Cambridges anymore. They’re so trash.

    • Immy says:

      Because of a rumor?

    • Mika says:

      I kind of feel the same way. When someone is ripping apart a woman for being well-spoken, a feminist, independent and, of right, black in order to build up… anyone, I think it’s trashy. Kate and William might not be be behind it, but I they are not stopping it. Worse, KP is saying “oh it’s both the wives that are getting it from the Press.” Not. Fucking. True. And pretending that it’s both of them is just minimizing what’s happening to Megan.

    • Anance says:

      Their PR is working overtime.
      * The cover of People shows Kate and Will sharing a secret, while Harry and Meghan look on. It announces – “the brother rift is over!”
      * On Instagram is graphic showing half faces of Will, his wife and his children. “It’s not Will; it’s the family!”
      * There is a video showing various scenes of Will interacting with George & Charlotte. “Will is such a great father!”

      B/c his image as a family who married his college sweetheart and fathered 3 adorable children is all Will has.

    • vava says:

      I’m with you there. I loathe William, and I’m not impressed by Kate.

      • stephka says:

        I agree that he is hugely unappealing.

      • starryfish29 says:

        William has always been an entitled twat, the heir pretty much always is, but William also got coddled because of the Diana thing and it’s made him even worse. Having a girlfriend/wife who let him do as pleased hasn’t helped anything. He rarely works and has no real direction for his role, almost all of the main royals have major initiatives that they’ve built over the years, and Will and Kate have nothing. Kate is constantly said to still be learning about where her passions lie (8 years in), and William is hardly any better flitting from one short term course to the next and going weeks without working. The two of them haven’t worked in a month with no explanation; you’d think with Harry & Meghan stepping back for a bit with the baby they’d be busy working, but bupkis.

  4. anna says:

    No pics/TV tell-all interview a’la Diana or Rose and her aristo husband divorce or it didn’t happen

    • Bettyrose says:

      Personally, I think Kaiser’s theory makes the most sense. Rose & Will probably had a tryst circa 2007, but whatever current affairs Wills is having Rose was just a facilitator and/or indiscreet gossip. What possible appeal could there be for Rose to have an affair with Willy at this point? (I could totally see her getting kicks from secret knowledge of his affair with a naive young townie, tho.)

  5. Lucia says:

    I retract my previous statements about this being much ado about nothing. That is all.

    • Red Snapper says:

      If it wasn’t true and there was no proof anywhere, then Williiam would ask Rose to call the papers, off the record, and deny everything. There must be some kind of proof?

      • Lucia says:

        There’s something and I get the feeling a whole lot more underneath.

        I understand William and Kate deserving privacy but there is something about William that I can only best describe as “deviantly secretive.” He seems to like throw up roadblocks any way he can so the media can’t start digging around his life. I won’t guess what’s hiding beyond. Probably Rose and several others.

      • A says:

        @Red Snapper, this is an excellent point. The proper, and better way to handle this would have been to get someone from the Turnip Toffs to act as a source and set the record straight about everything. It’s what the Queen would have done, and has always done. It can be done discreetly enough that it would keep the identity of the source secret, put to rest all of the rumours, and keep the press satisfied.

        William made a big mistake trying to shut it all down entirely. That just made people more curious.

    • Susannah says:

      This story was actually mentioned in the Telegraph today, very much an establishment newspaper, which was surprising. They even suggested that this was the reason for those tears from Kate at Meghan’s bridal fittings for the little kids! So it’s making it’s way into the British press now.

      It’s towards the bottom of this article on Harry and Meghan.
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2019/04/12/harry-meghan-launch-instagram-account-new-tv-show-next-brand/

      • Some chick says:

        Oooh, thanks! Something in a language I can read! And yes, the Telegraph is a reputable paper. Thank you for the link!

      • Salvation says:

        Meh Camilla Tominey’s been one of Meghan’s bullies sorry to say. She was the one that jumped Clooney be wise he said Meghan was being treated horribly by the British media, claiming that the abuse Meghan was being subjected to was nothing compared to what Kate or Diana went through and that Meghan supporters needed to stop whining because she wasn’t being treated any different than Kate was. I give all her articles a bid side eye.

    • norah says:

      first of all richard kay then the tweet which was deleted then kate icing out rose etc then the lawyer etc – there is something there

  6. Iknow says:

    I don’t buy Harry being so upset about William cheating so as to cause a rift between them. I truly believe the rift is that either, Harry believes William has not been there for his wife, or Harry believes his wife is being thrown to the wolves and his brother either sanctioned it or will do nothing to try and mitigate it. Whether Will cheats on Kate is not Harry’s business.

    • Heather says:

      I don’t know. He may be concerned for the kids. I can almost see a conversation “Wills, remember when Dad’s Tampongate thing was released? Remember how awful it was for us? Speaking of Dad, did you know that the same percentage of people who believe the earth is flat believe that he’s not even my father but Mom’s affair is? It was a blast wasn’t it?” Because William has the choice to either be faithful in his marriage or not, but the kids have no choice in his actions and how it affects them.

      • manda says:

        re: the prince charles tampon thing. had to google that. eww. that is so gross. I can’t believe anyone would ever say that. eww, it makes all these disgusting thoughts about charles and camilla’s sex life run through my head

        Why didn’t he just marry camilla all along?

      • jan90067 says:

        Camilla was not a virgin (a HUGE no no then), and she actually fancied Andrew Parker Bowles over Charles. Plus, Charles wasn’t ready to settle down at that point.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Charles’s private phone messages were hacked, including his version of sexy talk with his mistress. Why does that conversation appall people more than the fact that his phone was hacked and his privacy invaded? It is like the misogynists being mad at Bezos because he chose to have an affair with an age-appropriate partner instead of a 20 year old SI swimsuit model.

      • Jaded says:

        @NOTA – thank you. While Charles’ choice of descriptive may not be to everyone’s taste, it wasn’t meant for public consumption. He and Camilla are clearly very much in love and have a very strong relationship – they were together at the wrong place and time in the beginning but finally made the right choice to be together.

      • twoz says:

        @Nota – if I’m recalling the details correctly, Charles’ mobile wasn’t hacked, it was picked up on a scanner at a pub (mobile phone networks weren’t as secure then). Whereas it’s more likely that Diana’s (in the Squidgy tapes) was actually tapped.
        Mind you, if more information has come to light that he was in fact hacked, let me know. I’m all (ahem) ears.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Phone line was bugged where Charles was staying and their voicemails were later hacked.

    • Rhys says:

      Yeah, me neither. What’s this “Harry doesn’t understand Will’s attitude”? They are brothers, they have history and they know each other better than anybody else. An attempt to make Harry this paragon of virtue is laughable. He might be happy with his new wife now, but his reputation of a wild card is very well known in London. Let’s talk about anybody’s indignation in a few years.

      • Betsy says:

        People have pointed out on here that Harry’s wild side was very much played up by the media and Will’s was very much played down, thereby giving the impression that one was mild and one was crazy.

    • himmiefan says:

      Unless Harry used this as a reason why Will should keep his nose out of Harry’s business and tend to his own marriage. Also, Harry has always gotten on well with Kate and most likely doesn’t want to see her hurt.

      • Iknow says:

        I can see that when Will cautioned Harry, Harry might’ve said, something to the effect of “you’re going to tell me about marriage when you’re screwing Rose.” Harry I’m sure knows where Will’s cheating bodies are buried. Would he be surprised that Will has cheated on Kate? I really don’t thinks it’s big enough to cause a rift.

    • Lucylee says:

      Harry is worried his wife will start to have doubts about him. He working hard to let Meghan know he has changed. It begins with him wearing that wedding band.IMO

    • JinnyBye says:

      I definitely don’t buy it. This won’t have been the first time William had an affair, and it’s not the first time he’s embarrassed Kate during their marriage. The rift between them happened before any of this became public and before it started to seem like it might. If Harry didn’t take umbrage any of the times William very publicly made a point of ditching his young family to hang with his ex’s (and/or some of the women he attempted to woo pre-marriage), I can’t see him getting upset over what should have been a private indescretion.

      Hell, back in the day Harry seemed to delight in the way William messed Kate around, and he did the same to his girlfriends on occasion. He might have changed in the last few years, but I can’t see him moralising. Frankly he doesn’t have a leg to stand on if he is.

      • Chrome says:

        Over the years both brothers have treated women as merely hump-and-dump. They have the ingrained attitude from their family background and class that they can do whatever they want as long as they don’t get caught. Golden Boys and all that. But let”s be real – few in the BRF can keep their underpants on.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Or Harry is upset William instructed KP to stand back and let Meghan be abused online while this affair story was cooking/coming out. Allowing and using Meghan’s abuse to help cover it up. KP was obviously letting horrible comments about Meghan stay on their SM, but would delete anything negative about William immediately.

      • asdfa says:

        this

      • Mego says:

        Harry is not concerned over William’s philandering. Why would he be? Certainly not enough to cut ties. I think he suspects William and Kate are behind the smear campaign against his wife. And even if they weren’t, KP did absolutely nothing to support or protect them from abuse.

        And come on, I’m sure more than just harmless Dad dancing happened in Switzerland so this is nothing new if true.

      • V says:

        LOL What about the fact that KP represented both couples? What about the fact that Harry is an adult person who has plenty of times handled his own business alone without his bog brother,letting KP issue statements,employing lawyers,solicitors and so on? Why is William the one who have to look after Meghan? It’s getting ridiculous.
        The palaces have released guidelines,so if now they delete posts and tweets about William and wife left by the Sussexes’ deranged stans,it’s normal. They were doing it for Meghan and Harry too,thing tgat especially on twitter is extremely difficult. If Harry wanted the comments being disabled under their posts,he could have asked to do it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William has never looked after Meghan, but he’s used her for PR just like he’s always used his brother. William controls the KP staff, he is the one they defer to, they follow his lead. That is the major reason for getting Harry and Meghan out of there and moving them to BP. KP staff were keeping negative posts about Meghan on their social media but immediately deleting all negative things about William and Kate. Obvious when you open your eyes and pay attention.

      • norah says:

        harry and william have an issue and maybe this affair is the last straw and they ended up separating . the issue is that william and his cronies have allowed meghan to be attacked non stop with bs stories while william coasts by?

      • starryfish29 says:

        I think it started with William not being particularly supportive of Harry & Meghan’s relationship when they were dating. There were several leaks about Wiliam not supporting Harry over his statement on the press abuse of Meghan when they were dating. Harry even said in the engagement interview that there was a time early on that he didn’t tell William about the relationship, it’s kind of odd to feel like you needed to hide something that was making you happy from your brother who you’re supposedly super close to.
        Harry has seemed out of sorts since Meghan’s first Christmas at Sandringham, he definitely wasn’t his cheery affectionate self that day, and I think things with his brother have deteriorated since then. I believe the earlier stories about Will & Kate complaining about having Meghan around that Christmas.

    • asdfa says:

      OR – Prince William threw Meghan to the wolves to distract from this affair, and THAT’S the reason for the rift.

      • notasugarhere says:

        This.

      • Megan says:

        Your tin foil hat is askew.

      • Mego says:

        “Adjusts tinfoil hat”. I go with occam’s razor reasoning on why Meghan was thrown to the wolves. Bill and Kate Middleton have a problem. They greatly value having lots of good pr and positive attention. Problem is they are lazy and don’t want to put forth much effort in achieving the public’s good will.

        So they stage photo ops with their cute children to promote the normal family narrative as well as use Jason and the press to prop up their image with fanciful, gaslighting stories about how wonderful they are. I would surmise that it has worked fairly well for them until:

        Meghan Markle. For a while they tried to wait out she and Harry’s rise to fame throughout the engagement and wedding until Meghan’s pregnancy caused even greater attention. Meghan’s and Harry’s successful tour however initiated some unfavourable comparisons to Bill and Kate’s abilities ie. making speeches and they snapped and were no longer going to tolerate it. With the help of Carole, Jason and RR’s an onslaught of negative press about Meghan began.

        That’s my theory on what went down. The affair is an emerging problem but wasn’t in November when the smear campaign began.

      • Nic919 says:

        They weren’t even finished the tour when the smearing started in the tabloids. But it was after Meghan had given her own speech at the university in Fiji and the large enthusiastic crowds in Australia. Suddenly tiara gate showed up and then the making Kate cry story not long after. There was zero talk of an affair when this was going down

    • Lila says:

      I buy the idea that wills messes have leaked into harrys own marriage because Meghan has been used as a distractionary tool in the press to deflect from. I also buy that Will was not enthusiastic w Harry’s choice of wife and that Harry finds that rich given William is banging side pieces at the same time. I don’t think it’s will cheating so much as his cheating is hypocritical and he’s used Harry and Meghan for tabloid cover in the process.

      • Marianne says:

        @Lila I agree with everything you say, except on thing.

        I think Harry does actually care about Will’s cheating to some extent unto itself. Somehow I think that given the experience of his own parents’ marriage, coupled with the tragic circumstances of his mother’s early death when he was so little, I just don’t think he’d think cheating was ok. While some others have commented that William’s cheating is not Harry’s business, I can’t agree. Why would one brother not have any view of another brother’s behaviour? All the more so when the family as a whole is so much in the public eye.

    • anony83 says:

      While on its own it might not be enough to cause a riff but if the stories about William telling Harry to “slow down” with Meghan are true, then I know *I* would be pissed if a friend or family member was judging MY personal life while also boinking a Marchioness on the side.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      This narrative totally places Kate/Cambridge kids above Meghan/Baby Sussex IMO. Harry is so worried and upset on behalf of them that he severed his relationship with his brother. Nah. He severed his relationship with his brother because his wife and future child were being thrown under the bus. He’s pissed on his family’s behalf. He’s doing what he can to get them away from William and his team.

    • A says:

      I kind of agree. I don’t think Harry cares about William having an affair on its own. But I can definitely see him getting annoyed if William presumed to advise him about Meghan and how he’s “rushing into things” with her when he’s off having affairs and being unfaithful. It’s a double standard, and it’s even more highlighted when you realize that the press has been going in on Meghan and embarrassing her and digging up random sh*t from her past, while staying entirely silent about William and his affair. It’s also not unlikely that the Turnip Toffs themselves sort of look down on Meghan and her family when they’re out here being just as, if not more, messy.

      • Salvation says:

        Or it could also be that Harry was upset and incredulous that William had the nerve to lecture him about how Harry and Meg’s thing was way too fast and asking if Harry was sure. As if William taking 10 years to propose gives him some right to get up on a pedestal and pat himself on the back like his relationship with Kate is something that should be the model of Harry’s and Meg’s relationship. Like, Harry is like at least I haven’t dumped Meghan several times while persuing and proposing to numerous girls and then come back to my default when everyone else isn’t interested.

    • Jessie says:

      It’s absolutely his business of wills is telling him he’s moving too fast with Meghan, whine he lives, while wills is off shagging nothiswife

  7. Kylie says:

    The whole thing grosses me out and if it is untrue is very unfair to Rose and Kate in particular.

    • Rhys says:

      And if it’s true it is fair? I feel for Kate. It must be very painful for her.

      • Kylie says:

        It is unfair to Kate in both situations. This story went from being “Kate and Rose are not getting along over some silly posh stuff” to being “William and Rose are having an affair”. Nicole Cliffe’s weird infidelity fantasy is being taken by some as factual reporting instead of what it actual was, which was her own desire for it to be true for some reason.

      • norah says:

        i feel sorry for kate but not that sorry, he made her wait for a decade while he sowed his oats and she was his last choice – no wonder she isnt going anywhere -

    • Maria says:

      How is it unfair to Rose if she was the other woman? Don’t see that at all. Unfair to Kate, definitely.

      • escondista says:

        Uh ,she said if it was UNtrue that it is unfair to everyone but especially Rose and Kate.

      • Maria says:

        Oops! Sorry, my bad! Should brush up on my reading skills!

      • Megan says:

        Rose is a private citizen and it is unfair for the tabs to splash what may or may not be true about her private life all over their front pages. I’m sure Rose is having a fabulous time explaining this to her 10-year old twins.

      • Anance says:

        Will’s reaction and the lack denials from either Rose or him attest to this being true. It may still be on-going.

        I feel for Kate. She supposedly found out during her pregnancy w/Louis. She has not looked good in some time. Very thin. Tired, stressed and haggard. Her identity throughout her entire adult life is based on being William’s girl.

        And, now, after producing the heir and two spares, another woman can swoop in and take in him from her. Camilla proved it can be done. In fact, I imagine Will can replace Rose as well in 10 years or so. Who knows who will be Queen Consort.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Megan: then Rose can feel free to issue a denial. But she hasn’t.

  8. The Hench says:

    I actually went ‘yay!’ and then chortle chortle when I saw this headline. Not because I actually WANT there to have been an affair or for the Cambridges to be experiencing strife but because I love the fact that Normal Bill has tried to bully the media into silence and the French and US outlets have called his bluff. He does come across as an arrogant, entitled bully and it’s always fun to see those cut down to size.

    My schadenfreude is further fuelled by the fact that the UK press, however, HAS been silenced by him, demonstrating that the BRF does have the clout to shut down stories they don’t like and therefore highlighting that they could have stepped in to shut down the Meghan crap…but didn’t.

    • Pineapple says:

      The Hench, that is an excellent point. The BRF does have the clout to stop the Meghan stories but hasn’t. Unreal. So very sad for Harry.

      • Megan says:

        @Hence You cheered that the parents of six children are getting dragged by the tabs. You seem nice.

    • joanne says:

      i agree with you. it really highlights have the stories about Meghan aren’t shut down. that could be the cause of the rift between Will and Harry. Harry would want the same protection for Meghan from the press and is angry that she’s not receiving it.

      • Kylie says:

        But why is Will somehow the one that needs to stop those stories? Shouldn’t that fall on Charles or the Queen?

      • Ainsley7 says:

        @kylie It actually falls to Harry and Meghan. Harry has always been able to shut things down all by himself. He’s actually had more success than William. I think it’s weird that they haven’t even tried. They’re just ignoring it and going to US outlets. It hasn’t made a bit of difference.

      • Kylie says:

        @Ainsley7
        Then it is even more strange to me that William and Kate are being blamed for these stories about Meghan continuing. For the record I don’t think the original anti-Meghan stories originated from the Cambridges, Andrew always seemed like the more likely culprit. From there I think the press just started creating the stories on their own.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William is in charge of the staff at the KP offices. The staff were allowing horrible comments about Meghan on their SM but immediately deleting negative things about William. Ergo William does have blame here.

      • Kristin says:

        @ainsley7 I see it differently. Harry may want to shut things down but is unable to do so. I don’t know why, but something is preventing him from doing so. Clearly he loves his wife and is willing to protect her, as in the letter to the racists when they were dating. So it seems reasonable he would do so now, unless he could not.

      • Bren says:

        I always thought the smear campaign against Meghan was an attempt to provoke Harry into lashing out like he did with the press release in Nov. 2016 demanding the press to back off of Meghan. If Harry fights back again it would be open season on the Sussexes with no end in sight while the Cambridges reap the benefits. It’s pretty bad now and the press won’t seem to let up but Harry speaking out to protect Meghan will make matters worse. Perhaps if Will shut down the rumors of a conflict between Meghan and Kate early on, the intensity of the attacks on Meghan would have been few and far in between. Harry is in a no win position and all he and Meghan can do is control what they can and ride it out.

      • Nic919 says:

        Jason Knauf runs the PR at KP and he listens to William first. Anything that is or is not being done through KP is either directly or indirectly done because of William.

      • V says:

        @Ainsley This. But it’s better to blame others,when it suit biased agendas.

        @Nic919 They don’t need “poor Jason”‘s permission to use lawyers,send letters,and do whatever they want,which is exactly what Harry has done in the past,what Charles does for himself,and what William does for his own family.

        @Kristin He’s perfectly able to do whatever he wants. They had their PR plan indeed.
        They can’t sue for libel because a tabloid is running a story about Meghan sending emails at 5a.m.,or about sisters in law feuding.. They waited and put their own version out through People.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, joanne. William controls the KP staff and was standing back letting Meghan be torn apart. This would be a big reason why HM and Charles moved Harry and Meghan to the protection of BP.

      • Nic919 says:

        PR is not lawyers but social media and there were tons racist comments about Meghan left there but anything bad about William instantly removed. And yes we have seen Harry do things like the Love Shield and IPSO complaints, so why would Harry do nothing when it came to tiara gate or other nonsense? Maybe because he knew it was coming from within and sending letters by lawyers to the media wasn’t going to make a difference.

    • Lila says:

      This post rings true too and it made me think of how confidently Harry proclaimed that Meghan would find family within his family pre/marriage. He knew her dad,etc. were horrible and wanted her to find happiness in his own. And look how things turned out- she’s been savaged and treated badly and I can’t help but think William has not been the supportive brother Harry expected him to be. I think the rift is very personal as a result between brothers.

    • V says:

      But they were really “calling his bluff”,they would have published something else,and not “Nicole Cliffe’s tweets (really?!!) about Harry being held as a new moral standard (lmao),what In Touch is saying,and they even embedded on their site a celebitchy post.. Please.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Yep. Still waiting for someone to come up with something that has some substance to it– Nicole Cliffe’s tweets and In Touch of all things, ain’t going to do it for me.

      • The Hench says:

        @V – I don’t disagree that it’s all a flimsily thin rehash – but that was the whole point of Kaiser’s story here – as she writes – even if it’s just vague ‘we don’t really know what happened’ stuff, the striking thing is that the US and French press ARE gossiping about it vs the silence of the UK press. That was the whole point of this post. Not that VF France actually produced a whole load of real tea.

      • Salvation says:

        How is holding Harry to be the moral standards any different than holding the Cambridges as the moral standards that “never put any foot wrong”? At least it’s not Harry that’s being rumored to be having affairs left right and side ways on his wife and 3 young kids. Say anything you may about Harry but you can’t really say that any of his ex-girlfriends left him because he was a cheater. He and exes did break up multiple times and he slept with other women during those breakups but he was faithful to his girlfriends when they’re were together, and his exes testified to that fact. William on the other hand? Not so much. And don’t get me started on Kate intentionally putting all her royal jewels on display etc. Meanwhile Meghan gets crucified for roles she took while working as an actress, go figure.

    • Anance says:

      Well, said.

    • norah says:

      precisely – if they wanted the bs about meghan to stop they cd have done that – and harry knows and that is why there is an issue between the brothers

    • anon says:

      “they could have stepped in to shut down the Meghan crap…but didn’t” This pretty much sums the situation. And it happened before, to other women who married into the family…

  9. Rapunzel says:

    If this affair rumor is true, smartest move for Will/Kate right now is to make up some phony excuse as to why Kate and Rose are falling out. One that isn’t an affair. Say Will and Rose had a fling when he and Kate were on a break in 2007. Or that Rose and Kate had a falling out over a dispute on child raising. Or , to be really genius, say that Will/ Kate fell out with Rose because she insulted Meghan. They were the heroes for coming to Meg’s defence. They need to make up some of lie if this is true to give the press something else to talk about. Otherwise this is gonna baloon.

    If the rumor is in fact not true , I feel very sorry for Will and Kate, because it’s just gonna get worse . But if the rumor isn’t true then there should be a legitimate reason why they fell out with Rose. Hopefully, someone will feed that to the press.

    • sunny says:

      I agree- they need to be smarter about controlling the narrative. However, no one would ever believe they were coming to the defense of Meghan after the past 2 years- lol.

      What this story has proven though is that the royals still have a lot of pull with the British press. It will be interesting to see if they use it when Harry’s child is born. I doubt they will though… again, it will be very telling.

      My real question is will the complete bungling of this lead to staff changes at KP? Wills needs a team he will actually listen to if he is going to continue to F-up like this.

      • Megan says:

        Better to say Kate and Rose had an affair. That would blow the tabs minds and launch an entire cottage industry of soft-core fan fiction.

    • Becks1 says:

      They do need to control this narrative. Had the immediate reaction after the first few stories of a feud broke been “we don’t know where this story is coming from, Rose and Kate’s friendship has not changed,” things may have calmed down. Sure, there are always rumors, but if Will and Kate had just shrugged and said “we don’t know where this is coming from,” it may have just gone away.

      Instead we all know what happened next. If they REALLY wanted to actually shut this story down – they may have missed the window for that – but they could certainly try better than threatening legal action.

      • Bren says:

        The fact that Will went straight to legal threats means there was never an intent to control the narrative. The moment they acknowledge the rumor outside of Will threatening legal action, it will open the flood gates and that is what Will is trying to prevent. If the rumor is true, of course.

      • Nic919 says:

        Or William thinks he is a PR genius and really isn’t so he screwed this up badly.

  10. Mrs. Peel says:

    Eww, who would ever contemplate an affair with William?

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      Power and position make people do weird things. Just look at some billionaire marriages. The men are nothing special but the women are beautiful. Happens all the time.

    • AryasMum says:

      Well, her husband is a puny older man. Maybe she married for the title and tends to stray. Or maybe she finds her husband insanely hot. Beauty in the eye and all. Personally, I don’t see model material when I look at Rose.

      • Mumbles says:

        Yeah she looks very odd to me, almost turtle-like. And I can’t find any ads or fashion show photos featuring her.

        As for this being Diana 2.0, not likely. Diana was young when she married and came from an aristo background. Kate was an adult woman from a non-aristo background who’d waited for this opportunity for years. The first thing her family did after she got married was flaunt signet rings with their new coat of arms. She will NOT give this up if it’s up to her.

      • A says:

        Her husband might be old, but he’s definitely a hundred times more interesting than William. He didn’t settle down for years until he got Rose pregnant, and then had to marry her so that his heirs would be legitimate. They’re both known for having a wild side.

      • Andrea says:

        If he was charismatic and charming sure—something tells me that is more Harry though than William.

    • Amelie says:

      Google François Hollande’s (France’s former president) track record with women. The man is not attractive. AT ALL. And yet he cheated on Ségolène Royal his former partner (also a French politician) during her presidential campaign back in 2007 (she lost to Sarkozy) with journalist Valerie Trierweiler. As you may remember, Valerie Trierweiler was defacto First Lady when Hollande became president (they never married), his mistress turned girlfriend. And this website covered extensively how he then cheated on Valerie Trierweiler with Julie Gayet (an actress) because it happened while he was president. And that’s why I never felt sorry for Valerie when it happened to her because she had been the other woman while Hollande was cheating on Ségolène.

      If you google all three women: Ségolène Royal, Valerie Trierweiler, and Julie Gayet, they are all very accomplished and attractive women. And they all somehow managed to fall for Hollande, a very unattractive man. He doesn’t have much power nowadays either and has faded into the background but… it’s amazing how some men manage to get around. It must be his personality I’m guessing.

      • nibbi says:

        I had a brief, unexpected in-person encounter with him while he was President. I never understood it before, just seeing stuff in the press… in person: I so totally would. Can hardly explain it.

  11. Slowsnow says:

    Pfff having an affair with William is so 1994.

  12. normadean says:

    None of the foreign media outlets are offering any new information and there seems to be a lot of personal editorialization going on. If the foreign press had any evidence or credible sources they would release it. Same thing goes for the British press, if they had evidence they would have released it like they did with the pictures of his ski holiday & him dancing at the club.

  13. Sayrah says:

    I think if there was an affair it happened long ago, maybe even during their breakup 12 years ago – making it not an affair.

    • Casey02 says:

      So why in 2019 is Kate trying to cut Rose out…

      • Sayrah says:

        But what does that even mean – to cut her out? Maybe she was being flirty and Kate wasn’t going to deal with it at all.

      • jan90067 says:

        Could be the fact that it is now being talked about/brought up again, and perhaps, while Kate had suspicions about it, it is now being put “in her face” (they may’ve always had an understanding that if he cheats, he must be discreet.

        Or… I was thinking, perhaps Will and Rose might’ve had a dalliance just after Char’s birth. I think that she and Will had it out, that this is the something major between them that happen; they worked things out, and came out on a better side, and William gave in to her wanting a thrid baby. It wasn’t until she was expecting Louis that she started to look so much happier, and after his birth, she just glowed (and until very recently); both seemed more “settled” and happier with each other (with Kate looking *very* happy). It hasn’t been until very recently that she has been looking more drawn and unhappy again.

    • PrincessK says:

      It definitely seems to be more recent over the past two or three years I would say. In those photographs it is written all over William’s face.

      • Some chick says:

        I agree that William’s expressions in the garden party photos are very telling. He looks worried that someone will say something. Since the beginning of Turnipgate I’ve thought something must be up, just because of that.

  14. Casey02 says:

    As usual, William is an A-Hole, human rights violation, really!! I agree with Harry is upset because Meghan is the sacrifice for Williams reputation. All of the leaks from KP are from William’s people to paint Meghan in a negative light. Now we have the ridiculous story about a parking lot. The fact that the British Media has NO problem with its character assignation of Meghan but are afraid of a Human Rights lawsuit from William to cover up an affair speaks volumes! I don’t blame Harry for protecting his family and moving away from KP and I don’t blame him for giving the British Media the middle finger when it comes to the birth of Baby Sussex. The rest of the world will know the truth while the Brits continue their campaign of “putting Meghan in her place.” I’ve said this before the Brits will HATE Meghan but the world will love her. When William becomes King he will reign over the UK only the rest of the Commonwealth will never RESPECT him!!!

    • Tina says:

      British media. Not British people. Rinse and repeat. (Stop trolling).

      • Yoyo says:

        Thanks, I don’t know why people keep saying British people hate Meghan, it’s the British Media, sure there is classism and racism in some Brits, but not the majority.
        Most of Meghan haters are mainly middle age white American women (Samantha type) on SM.

      • Casey20 says:

        Stop with just the British Media it’s the British people as well…not all granted but some

      • Tina says:

        As Yoyo says, most Meghan haters are middle aged American women (and a few haters are making hundreds if not thousands of tweets and comments). And as Bella says (thank you to both of you) most British people either like Meghan or are indifferent to her.

      • Nic919 says:

        The recent CBC story on Meghan haters on social media confirmed the majority were coming from the US and a much smaller percentage from the UK. I’d be willing to bet a lot of money that all US Meghan haters were also anti Hillary. There is a segment of the female population that is resentful of women who openly identify as feminists and go beyond the expected norms of behaviour for women. Add Meghan being biracial and she’s even more unacceptable by some.

    • Lesanne says:

      The rest of the Commonwealth will be long gone by the time William becomes King.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He’s threatening to file under European Convention on Human Rights, not under the UK version. So legally it falls under “Human Rights”. As I explained the other day, the European version appears to include stronger language around privacy including the right not to be talked about by others. “for us not to have personal information spread about us against our will”

    • Bella DuPont says:

      As Tina has said, many, many, times on this site, there is a distinct difference between the British media and British people.

      She is only disapproved of by circa 9% of the population – a figure similar to even the most popular Royals like Harry and the Queen.

      90% of people either approve of her or are indifferent (most likely because they feel they don’t know enough about her to commit either way).

      Don’t buy into the media’s 💩

  15. Jade says:

    It’s on the cover of Public, one of the biggest french tabs with a story about how Kate is preparing a counter attack. Elle and other mags had articles too. Basically the french press thinks it’s true. I don’t think they have sources but they aren’t scared by William so they write about the rumours.

    • Anance says:

      Let’s not forget Pippa has contacts in French/Belgian high-society. It would be a smart move to continue the story across the Channel.

  16. arbelia says:

    I don’t see how a lawsuit would be “unprecedented”. A french tabloid had published topless pics of Kate when the couple were vacationing in the south of France some years ago. They filed penal and civil lawsuits , and it was a big big thing. The tabloid had been condamned to a big fine. And the people at the head of the magazine were fined too in person.
    I remember police searches in the tabloid’s offices, etc… it was a very tense story.
    Because here in France , the law is very strict concerning the protection of private life. If a tabloid posts pics taken without your consent or publish stories about you, you know that if you file a lawsuit , you’ll have damages and they will have to take back the publications. Plus they’ll have to publish the condamnation on the first page of the paper.

    • Becks1 says:

      But, they actually published the pictures. That’s a big difference. It’s like if the French tabloids had written a story “someone told us Kate was sunbathing topless” vs actually publishing the pictures. Suing over the former would be kind of weird. Suing over the latter – much more understandable (I don’t know anything about those kinds of laws in France and the UK so I cant really comment beyond that.)

      There is a big difference between publishing topless pictures of someone, or even publishing a story that says “William cheated on Kate” vs saying “there is a rumor going around Norfolk and London that the British press aren’t discussing.” The latter IS true. There ARE rumors, and the British press IS avoiding them.

      so threatening to sue a paper over the discussion of a rumor strikes me as a bit extreme for a public figure like William.

    • notasugarhere says:

      W&K demanded over a million in damages, the tabloid had to pay 100,000. That’s a slap on the wrist not a big fine.

      • arbelia says:

        Well 100000 is actually big. The tabloids are regularly condamned to damages but the sum is generally smaller.
        In comparison, the same paper “only ” had to pay 15000 because of pics reavealing the relation between the French President and an actress.Plus the two bosses have been condemned to the maximal fine (45000 each).
        Becks, french law is very protective (unlike british law) of private life. The press is submitted to very very stricts rules .
        For instance some years ago Charlotte Casiraghi got 2 magazines condemned because they had published articles about the rumor of her liaison With Gad Elmaled ( which turned to be true). They were no paparazzis pictures only official ones. She ( Casiraghi) compared those articles, and the discussion about her private life to “rape” . Both have been condemned to damages ,and they had to print the condamnation in big letters on the cover ( it actually took the major part of the cover). And last year she did the same thing to magazines who wrote about rumors of her wedding to her fiancé. Same condamation. Actually each time they wrote an article speculating on her love life, or even just her fashion, she got them condamned.
        That it is true or not ( for exemple she was in relation with Elmaleh, she even had a son with him) doesn’t matter. The simple fact that they wrote about her private life is a violation of her rights. That’s why she’s sure to have damages and condamnation each time.
        French Law and British Law are on extremes on this matter ( french law is very very strict and protective of people, and the press is very limited on what it can print). So to me as a French, William would be totally in his right to file a lawsuit. It’s the spirit of the law here.Because it’s what everyone does .

      • notasugarhere says:

        It is pathetic in comparison to what W&K demanded. William always over-reaches and fails, just like he’s doing with threatening lawsuits over this story.

        Princess Caroline ultimately lost her court cases against the German press. I don’t expect Charlotte to win every time she tries to shut down tabloid stories.

  17. Josie says:

    For what it’s worth, everyone is repeating everyone else’s rumors at this point. Nichole Cliffe’s tweet thread is being treated as sourced reporting by the French press; honestly, commentators here have better theories and more information than her. (One of the French papers wrote that the affair started when the Cambridges started spending more time in Norfolk last year. That’s the exact opposite of the timeline. Any of the regular folks here knows more about their movements, right?)

    I have assumed the UK papers were obliquely outing William for the affair since the start. I don’t think Harry cares. I don’t think it’s any more likely to threaten the.Cambridge marriage than Andrew Parker-Bowles’s many infidelities threatened that marriage (only I doubt Kate finds a partner like Charles was for Camilla during her marriage). I think we need to cut Kate as much slack as we cut Camilla — she also knew Andrew was a cheater, but everyone says she married him for love/lust. (I really hope The Crown puts to bed that old lie about Camilla’s sexual experience being the reason why Charles didn’t marry her. Camilla didn’t want him, not for keeps. All the posh women wanted Andrew back then.)

    • Yoyo says:

      Even Princess Anne, and they’re still friends today.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Agree with the repeating everyone else’s rumors bit.
      Who knows whether it is true or not but if this is all the French press has, they sure don’t have much to hang their hat on here. They are openly writing about Twitter rumors, big deal.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I have read this theory many places too. Camilla wanted Andrew Parker-Bowels. If Andrew Parker-Bowels hand not been Roman Catholic, I think he would have ended up married to Princess Anne.

  18. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    Rose is preggers with Willie’s baby lol.

  19. Digital Unicorn says:

    The French press r itching for payback on the Cambridge’s over the topless photo case, at some point someone is going to spill the tea to the European press who r in some cases much worse the their UK counterparts.

    William only has clout as he is Chucks heir, take that away and he’s fair game. This story is not going to go away, it’s only going to get worse. The more they complain and threaten the more the press will print about it.

  20. Maylee says:

    I don’t think the affair is the main reason for the WH rift, maybe just fuel to the fire? What rings true to me is something I read (probably here!) about W thinking H was moving too fast with M. Can you imagine being head over heels in love, knowing you’ve met your future wife, wanting to share that excitement with your own brother, and the reaction is…eh, are you sure though? What a way to imply someone isn’t good enough. :( And in addition W did not go out of his way to publicly welcome M or defend her from vile press attacks. That would be enough for me to have a falling out, ESPECIALLY if I knew my hypocrite of a brother was having an affair.

    • jan90067 says:

      Thing is, both Harry and William seemed very happy at the wedding, and at the Christmas walk the Christmas after the engagement was announced. So, IMO, I don’t think that is the reason that *this* is the reason for what has been going on *now*.

      • Andrea says:

        If he was displeased with the fast marriage, he wouldn’t have been able to hold back at the wedding—he isn’t THAT great of an actor. Just look at scarfgate.

        Honestly, I would side eye and ask anyone moving fast into a marriage if they were sure, especially with so much divorce these days.

  21. Feeshalori says:

    FWIW, l think Harry is furious that his wife is being thrown to the wolves as a deflection from William’s purported affair. He may not care about his brother’s behavior as much as he does about how the British media is gunning for Meghan. He’s got his wife and child now to protect. And as a result of Will muzzling the press, they’ll really be ramping up the abuse of Meghan since they can’t go after him. The press goes after Meghan for the parking situation but won’t touch William. And Harry must be absolutely incensed that the palace has done nothing to quell the media vileness as it has for William. Yes, l can very well see that as the cause of the brothers’ rift.

    • Maylee says:

      Good point! Never thought of it that way and it totally makes sense.

    • jan90067 says:

      Guess Harry can’t take his fury out on TQ. But then, he seems to be much closer to Charles lately, and why Charles won’t put out the fires, or do more PR with M&H (or just Meg alone) to show support is something I just don’t understand. But let’s be honest. Just ONE statement from TQ, stating that these attacks on Meghan will not be tolerated any more, and that any RR doing such will be out of the loop/RR pool, would really put paid to a lot of it. There are a LOT of journalists who are ready and willing to take the place of some of those bitchier reporters (like Palmer, Tominey, Andrews, etc.)

      • Hashtagwhat says:

        Just out of curiosity, what makes you say that? They say being a RR is akin to being a piano player in a brothel, i.e. a rather thankless/useless job. So who are all these people lining up to do it?

      • Yoyo says:

        I saw an old video this morning about the Queen in calling all the Editors asking them, to lay off Diana, when she was pregnant with William because they printed a photo of a pregnant Diana wearing a bikini in the Bahamas.
        It turned out the press went crazy trying to get more pictures to post.
        Diana used the press and when she wanted them to go away, of course it did not happen.

  22. tempest prognosticator says:

    I still don’t understand how this works. When Meghan gets bad press, W&H are responsible. They want to distract from their own bad press. When Will gets bad press, H&M are/are not? responsible because they want to distract from Meghan’s bad press, for which W&H are responsible. I just can’t wrap my head around how brothers would publicly humiliate each other for gain. This is soap opera material.

  23. blinkers says:

    Does anyone know the designer of their dresses in these photos? I really like the one Rose is wearing.

  24. JadedBrit says:

    I wonder if the French press do indeed have proof. Given that Kaiser Bill has shut up the British press and sued the trousers off the topless photo publication (cannot recall the name), and has involved his lawyers over a rumour with all sorts of unimaginable guff re the Human Rights Act (one of the worst written bits of legislation in human history with enough loopholes to drive a cart-horse through – I’ve read the whole damn thing – but not even he can get away with a Section 8 claim) they would surely not stick their necks over the line were there not some tangible evidence. The tinfoilhattist in me is predicting a forthcoming, explosive reveal.

    • Kylie says:

      Considering they are using Nicole Cliffe’s tweets as a source for some of it, I doubt it.

    • Salvation says:

      I’m thinking everyone are holding their cards close to the chest till this baby Sussex fever died down. Then all $h!t will hit the fan. I’m guessing nobody is wanting such a juicy scandal to be burried in the royal baby mania so they’re are patiently waiting.

  25. IrisQueen says:

    I think something happened.

  26. TheOriginalMia says:

    Harry is pissed at William about his wife. William’s affair is not the reason for the rift. It’s just proof William was a hypocrite about Meghan.

    William is responsible for his children’s happiness. It should matter to him how they will perceive his treatment of their mother. That’s not in Harry’s wheelhouse.

    And all of this could have been avoided if PR genius William had left things alone. We would have laughed about the 1% problems facing Rose and Kate and moved on to all things Baby Sussex. But no…William has to control everything and now it’s widely believed he cheated.

  27. Kk2 says:

    For the first time in my life I’ll say I feel bad for Kate. Yes she knew or should have known what she was signing up for, but still- this is a tough thing to deal with so publicly.

    • Salvation says:

      Yeah RR are trying to change their tune now, saying that Katie Keen was not made to cry by Meghan but that she was actually crying about William betrayal.

  28. guest says:

    The British press isnt saying at all, but that’s not stopping twitter, or the foreign press. The difference between now and diana/Charles is the internet. Nothing stays hidden anymore.

    Guess karma is calling and i hope she is strong 😈

  29. Vodka&Regret says:

    Hmm, me thinks the UK sets a VERY low bar for “It” Girls. :|

    • Julianne says:

      Yes, they really do. I googled her and found a cute-ish pic or two of her, but they did not appear to be recent. The pics of her above are really quite unfortunate.

    • PrincessK says:

      I had never heard of her before this ‘rumour’, and she wasn’t really a name heavily associated with William when he was single, though it is said that they knew each other. She was never strongly tipped as a possible bride for William.

  30. Jessica says:

    Ok so I took Comparative Con Law so I know that Great Britain operates differently. I am American, and this protection from the press thing just sounds dumb. You are public figures. Deal with it. You signed up for it.

    • Nic919 says:

      The UK is still a monarchy even though it’s a constitutional monarchy and so the press feels they need to kowtow to the BRF every once in a while. And the consolidation of media conglomerates does not help either. Then again the orange attacking Bezos is him trying to get the same deal.

  31. Rena says:

    It appears that Rose Hanbury’s husband is gay. Google it, if you don’t believe me

    • Andrea says:

      Wait what?!?!

    • Jaded says:

      I did google it and can’t find a thing. Please provide proof.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I have heard that rumor for months and wasted hours googling it. I could find absolutely zilch on this topic. If you have a link, please post it!

      If Marquess of Cholmondeley person is gay, so what! Mr. Marquess of Cholmondeley person is a private individual. It is only Rose Hanbury’s business.

    • Salvation says:

      I would LOL 😂😂😂 if William affair was actually with the marques and not with Rose. Nothing would hurt Kate, and understandably so, more than her hubby cheating on her with another man. And I would LOLder 😂😂😂 if it was Kate cheating with Rose, that would be poetic justice for Willnot.

  32. pantanlones en fuego says:

    Theory:
    Meghan somehow caught Wills and Rose kissing or something similar which caused him to begin leaking dirt about her to the press. Could also be why he was (supposedly) telling Harry to “slow it down” with her. I could be way off base with this and idk if the timeline follows but stranger things have happened in aristocracy.

    • intheknow says:

      You are not far off actually. Big Willy’s worry about Meghan was partly the fact she is likely too Hollywood-which lives on gossip and good or bad press. He felt that Meghan leak his constant cheating and other bad behaviour a it to the press – because that is the world Meghan comes from in Willy’s mind. “The Aristocracy doesn’t ‘leak’ info but Hollywood and celebrities do”.

      William thought Meghan would end up being a ‘fling’ to be discarded, which is why he also didn’t roll out the welcome Matt. He soon realized it was heading to marriage and spoke to TQ about it and eventually to Harry who continued his romance anyway.

      Some families have more dirt and skeletons than others..the BRF is just dirty (barring the TQ).

    • MsIam says:

      I don’t think, Meghan has anything to do with this. I believe this is coming from Rose/Chumley camp. Think about, Kate not only cut off Rose but she wanted all of their friends in common to cut her off too. Kind of like the scarlet letter. I think that someone close to Rose put that out there, especially since it has been said it’s an open secret among their friends. Maybe someone that Kate (or William) pissed off.

    • Olenna says:

      The theory is not plausible unless you have information that would put her in the same vicinity when these so-called toffs were socializing with the Cambridges.

  33. Amaria says:

    If Marquess of Cholmondeley is as gay as some people say (and as he pings on my gaydar) all of this is even more likely. I wouldn’t be surprised, if the hypothesis that Meghan caught Wills red-handed was true as well – that would explain a lot. The whole thing seems like an iceberg – there must be a ton of dirt underneath Will’s threats to the press. Someone should tell him about the Streisand effect.

  34. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    I posted yesterday that, decades from now, once King Charles is getting close death, there will be a push to have the crown by-pass lazy, cheating William and go straight to George. If there is still a monarchy by then, which I doubt.

    • Lucia says:

      It all depends on Charles. The fact he is far more progressive than his parents (and I suspect even his son), may work in his favor when it comes to saving The Monarchy. But I think he’ll be fighting an uphill battle to save it for sure.

      • Anance says:

        Mrs Krabapple,

        Interesting, I thought so, too. Moreover, I don’t believe William would mind as long as he keeps his bennies. I assume he would retain the Duchy of Cornwall and his title of Prince of Wales. Totally fine with it.

  35. PrincessK says:

    I heard the opposite that he was a ladies man, so much so that people never thought he would get married. But now you mention it, things are not always what they seem….hmmm. “ People never thought he would ever get married”…now that could be the clue…..He very much needed to have heirs and now Rose has produced them…..hmmmm. The plot really does thicken.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      This Marquess of Cholmondeley person has dated several women in the entertainment industry. All of the women were much closer to his age than Rose.

    • Ader says:

      And they didn’t get married till Rose was pregnant. Apparently, Rose got pregnant, they announced their engagement, and then got married 24 hours later at the equivalent to “city hall.” No big society shin-dig.

  36. V says:

    Is this a big deal? They can’t prevent anyone to publish stories about rumors,that are obviously click bait. The fact thet they are resorting to quote tweets,In Touch,and the story on the VF site had literally a Celebitchy IG post (!!!) tells everything we need to know about what they know.
    And I don’t understand what people expect from the UK tabloids,unless they have evidence they can defend against a predictable legal action. Should they continue to quote the Sun about the “rural rivalry” using that as a proof of a cheating scandal? Should they quote Nicole Cliffe and her “stan theories” about William,Harry and Meghan? Or In Touch that quotes other UK tabloids? I don’t know.

    About this much talked about rift,has anyone contemplated the theory that it’s simply about money and their position in the family? And it has nothing to do with Harry,the new standard for the perfect husband and perfect dad,lol,being concerned with William and his secret affairs,as if he cares about it,as if his reputation isn’t what it is. And it has nothing to do with Harry and his wife “being thrown under the bus”,pretending that the global,superpowerful couple can’t stand up for themselves,and Charles,their big supporter according to the fans,can’t do anything but somewhat William is the one who should be blamed for not “speaking up” (when he’s not the one who is concocting silly plots with Carole Middleton).
    If William is entitled and whiny,his brother isn’t any better. One of the few stories I’ve always believed is that he was really going around saying “what Meghan wants Meghan gets!”.So,I can totally see him being galvanized by the attention he’s getting with his wife,and starting to ask changes with the staff,ask for different and new employees and think that he’s entitled to more money than what he used to get from their father. These are all things that can cause coldness and discussions. But this scenario doesn’t suit the stans’ conspiracy theories and biased agendas.

    • MsIam says:

      If everything is as nebulous as you claim then why is William threatening to sue? You don’t need a shotgun to kill a mosquito do you? And the original story would have disappeared by now if not for the overkill. It was basically just two women not getting along. They ignore everything else, why not this story? Why the need to drag Meghan into the story by the smears in that denial? Not saying we have any right to know what’s going on, that’s their business. And as far as the rift, who knows, but Charles and Harry seem to be on good terms so if it’s about money and how much he is getting, Harry seems happy enough. So maybe William is jealous and trying to get Harry cut off. Which could be motivation for throwing someone under a bus….. Or like others have said maybe it’s Andrew….

      • V says:

        He could have ignored if it was just a passing story about a vague “rivalry”,but the Sun reprinted the story a second time with much more sensationalistic tones,and I suppose that it was the moment when they predicted it wasn’t going to disappear,and the conclusion people could have drawn is quite obvious. I think the Sun is the tabloid that was warned,if it’s true,and I wouldn’t exclude that it happened when they (William/pr team) were asked to comment.
        This story also involves another family,private citizens that have the right not to be involved in this type of gossip. I don’t think a warning is actually nothing strange,when this story can be very damaging,much more than the stories they put out daily and that are ignored. They have taken legal action for more harmless situations. And who knows how many times they interfere or try to interfere with no success,and we simply don’t know about it.

        “Why the need to drag Meghan into the story by the smears in that denial? ”
        If you’re referring to the RK’s piece,I think nobody asked Richard Kay to write anything. Parts of that piece seemed designated to fuel other gossip,and I believe he wanted to draw attention to a story that was being ignored.
        As for the need to drag Meghan into the story,even if you want to believe they ran to Richard Kay for a denial (and RK isn’t known for particularly favorable pieces about them),he didn’t need to be told by William to bring up the other two and being petty.
        It’s obviously click bait,but just the other day he wrote a piece about M&H that was meant to be very positive,and he literally repeated the exact same complaints (baby shower,friends running to People..) that he brought up in the infamous “denial”. I doubt he was by William what to write in this occasion too.. It’s evidently what he thinks about them,and even when he wants to be positive,he can’t help himself but mention those fatal mistakes,lol.

      • Salvation says:

        @V, you can argue all you want but William is totally responsible for this rumor blowing up into what it is. Since the BRF mantra is never complain never explain, William should have left well enough alone instead of putting out threat after threat about how he will sue and also having that man Richard Kay write that sugar dripping piece about how the Cambridges are the best people next to Christ. Just like you argue that it wasn’t up to William to protect Meghan, likewise it wasn’t up to William to protect the Cholmondeleys, they would have put out their own threats or contacted their attorneys if they were so private and felt their privacy was being violated. And the pettiness towards the Sussexes in RK artcicle was NOT click bait, the Sussexes hadn’t been mentioned in the article heading so there was no click bait in regards to them. It was intentional just to compare the Cambridges (who never put any foot wrong even though these are rumors about William cheating on his wife and even though Kate has exposed her private parts in public on numerous occasions) to the Sussexes who are clearly the devil’s to the Cambridges stans

      • MsIam says:

        @V your answer is confusing to me. If you’re saying that Richard Kay made up the story out of whole cloth then why would he use that line about William threatening legal action? About William consulting with Chumley, (who they barely know and have only engaged with THREE times!) about whether to pursue legal action? Why aren’t the “private citizens” Chumleys defending their own marriage/family? It’s true that this could be a whole lot of nothing. But they are not acting like this is nothing. Also, if the issue is people jumping to conclusions based on the original story then why didn’t both families put out a statement that there is no feud and we all get along? Why no neighbors in the community coming to their defense?

      • Olenna says:

        @MsIam, you are right to be confused. In trying to cast Willie as blameless for the botched PR (first RK publicly throws out legal action, then Willie follows), those ‘expositions’ seem to go in all directions and none. IMO, KP (and Willie) are looking more and more guilty of trying to cover-up Cambridge missteps (and Sussex bashing) than ever before. And, the attempt by Cam stans to dazzle the non-believers with BS to throw them off the trail is just not working.

      • V says:

        @salvation What I said is that it’s his opinion that,again, he even repeated almost word for word in another editorial about them,that was actually meant to be positive.
        And yes,it’s also click bait when the purpose is to rile up stans and haters. Let’s not pretend that most of them don’t read these pieces about both couples, and even when they don’t click on the article,as soon as they find about it, they go in the comments and start to comment and fight.
        As far as we know they sent a warning to one tabloid, probably the Sun,assuming that the daily beast story was even right. As for the rest,it’s simply your personal speculation.
        And yes,I think he was entitled to take preventive legal action if they knew or predicted where the tabloid was going with the story. The Sun had already printed the story two times with increasingly sensationalistic tones.

        @mslam I didn’t say that Richard Kay made up the bit about the legal action. I actually believe ththey warned at least one tabloid,and probably Kay (and surely other reporters) knew about it. This adds credence to my theory that he simply wrote about it to draw attention to a story that when was published by the daily mail a week or two before,was mostly ignored. I just find hard to believe that he was told something like “do you know what? I’ve been sending legal threats, so please write a piece about us and the Cholmondeleys to fuel speculation about something nobody is paying attention to..” I highly doubt it.
        Also,nobody knows if Rose Hanbury and husband have done something as well. But in any case,what they are supposed to deny publicly?
        In Touch? Articles that report about vague rumors based on twitter speculation because of a vague “rural rivalry”?
        The best thing for them is just ignoring it.

    • anon says:

      As a stan yourself, a bit of self-reflection would do you good. You are becoming bitter and agressive in your comments @V

      • Beach Dreams says:

        The funny thing is V once proclaimed that she didn’t care for any of the royal family. For someone who claims to not like any of them, she certainly spends a lot of effort putting down the Sussexes and vehemently defending the Cambridges.

  37. Nicki says:

    The rumours are spreading to other countries too, several German speaking magazines are covering the story too.

  38. Well Wisher says:

    Spot on. EU libel laws ensure that the publisher has at least two credible sources to the allegations. After Princess Diana’s death: the publishers and the press governing body made a pact as to how the young princes will be covered. William is using that to his advantage.
    Remember the Marquess of Cholmondeley is one rank below Dukedom also Rose and her parents are aristocrats by birth in contrast to Duchess Catherine Cambridge.

  39. MangoAngel says:

    All I can think when I see those pictures (beyond the epic side-eye from the Cambridges) is how many examples of bad posture can fit into one photo set.

    Honestly, all the upstanding upbringing and not one of them can stand up straight.

  40. Baltimom says:

    Were those photos before or after the affair revelation? Wills looks mighty uncomfortable and so does Rose. Kate looks smug.

    • Becks1 says:

      Before. These pictures were from 2016, when there was an EACH fundraiser at Rose’s house/estate.

      Well, I’m saying “before,” but it is entirely possible that Kate knew at the time. But this is from a few years before the current gossip/rumors.

      Love your name, I’m in that area as well!

  41. Ader says:

    My theory is that Meg is just smarter than Will and Kate, and better at the whole royaling gig. Instead of just being chill about it, they chose the “she thinks she’s better than us” / “she’s uppity” route. It’s so common. So, so, so common. And Harry and Meg recognize that b.s. and aren’t impressed.

    As for Wills and this Rose. Gut says they had an affair. And Kate knows and looks the other way. But if any proof ever got out, that would be DISASTROUS for the Cambridge Brand. Will’s reputation is about 93% tied to his mother’s reputation; the poor suffering child of divorce; an innocent victim of infidelity. If it comes out that he, too, is a cheater….that would be a PR tsunami.

    • MsIam says:

      People keep saying Kate looks the other way, etc. Then why was she trying to freeze this woman out? Because I thought the story was that Kate wanted all their friends in common to “phase out” Rose too? I can see Kate putting Rose on the sh*t list but telling everyone else to do the same? That doesn’t sound like Kate is looking the other way, it’s sounds like she’s big time mad and this was supposed to be some major payback. I wonder too if William said something to Rose about his and Kate’s love life (or lack thereof) and Rose let that cat out of the bag? And then somehow it got back to Kate?

      • Ader says:

        Good point. And I think the answer lies in the end of your comment: I think Kate tried to freeze her out because Rose started talking too loudly. So the upset wasn’t about the affair, per say, but a lack of discretion.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        It’s certainly a fair question. Like Ader said, the rumors supposedly spread because Rose was gossipy. IF the rumors are true then I’d guess Kate wanted to freeze Rose out because a) Rose talked too much, b) the affair is still ongoing and it understandably bothers Kate that Will is screwing a close friend, or c) she thinks Will has feelings for Rose beyond lust, and that would be a HUGE problem for multiple reasons.

      • starryfish29 says:

        I’d guess that WIll and Kate have some sort of understanding about his affairs and he violated that understanding, and that’s what made this one different enough for Kate to try and freeze out rose.

    • Nic919 says:

      The amount of whitewashing done just to hide the cheating he did on Kate during college and the 2007 breakup shows they are concerned about it. Once the engagement was announced you would be hard pressed to find the articles outlining what William did in 2007. Now they pretend that William and Kate were college sweethearts with no breaks whatsoever and try to explain some of the odd body language with them being “together since 2001”.

  42. Pumpkin Eater says:

    For anyone that lived through 2007 break up they remember that he was after isabella in 2006 and that he was supposedly buying jewlery for camilla al Fayed with holly branson. there was never any mention of rose hanbury until her involvment in EACH.

    Anyone who knows Harry knows that he is forgiving. Meghan has opened up his eyes to william using him and he is taking steps to self actualise. Along with him getting out from under will controlling ways.

    No turnip toff has denied anything. Rose continues to post on her instagram. No denials. No libel suing.

    The only question is is it still going on.

    Wait and Watch.

  43. KLO says:

    Rose Hanbury looks like the doppelganger of Williams nanny Tiggy Legge Bourke.

    Prince Charles eventually married Camilla, who looked like a carbon copy of his nanny Mabel Anderson.

    Kate looks a lot like Tiggy as well, but Rose could be TIggys daughter by her looks.

    I am just going to sit back and watch the show. Although I kind of find Roses older husband hot and I dont want them to get divorced.

  44. Awais says:

    love u

  45. KatMatz says:

    Does anyone know when/where the pics in this article were taken? Because they all look so awkward! Kate looks kind of vindictive,Rose looks mortified, her husband looks clueless and William looks smug.

    • Princessk says:

      At the Cholmondeley residence, probably Houghton Hall, you can see that the Chumley’s are the welcoming hosts.

    • Becks1 says:

      The pictures are from an EACH fundraiser Rose and her husband hosted (I got the impression it was done as a favor to Will and Kate at the time – like , Will and Kate got a lot of good PR for the fundraiser even though they didn’t host.) I think it was July 2016, at Houghton Hall.

  46. TorontoBeach says:

    Does anyone have any details on this story about Prince William and the banker? All I have read is that the Daily Fail was going to fork out $100k for details on the affair but not one would talk. Who is the banker and is the banker female or male ?

  47. Cerys says:

    The U.K. media always treads very carefully with the royals and especially with William and Kate. Their holidays and lack of work have been excused regularly. I have no idea why.
    Re the alleged affair, William comes from a long line of adulterers. Royal history is rife with it so there is no surprise there. What happens next remains to be seen. However there was a family outing to a horsey event this weekend and pictures of the Cambridge family looking picture-perfect. It smacks of a PR exercise to try to disprove the rumours. I don’t know who is behind all the negative stories about Meghan but they can only benefit the carefully constructed image of the perfect Cambridge family.

  48. Louise says:

    You mentioned in an article the other day to expect some photos of Kate and William on a date night very soon to show how strong they are. I wake up this morning to photos in the Daily Mail of them with the kids looking like a very happy family. You called it.

  49. Mimi says:

    They don’t look happy to me. Looks like they could barely get Will & Kate in the same frame.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yeah, you’d think that there would be at least one picture of them talking or even just looking/smiling at each other. Perhaps those shots do exist and they weren’t published for whatever reason. Still, these “candid” family photos give off tense vibes from Kate in particular. Hmm…

    • Becks1 says:

      Yeah, I think there is a reason they had the Tindalls in the pictures, probably to deflect from any tension between W&K.

      • Becks1 says:

        AND, before anyone says its not their fault these pictures were taken, they have the right to live their lives, lets remember that we RARELY see candids of the Cambridges in general, especially their kids. They can be very private (or shut down any photos) when they want. We only see pictures when there is a reason for it.

      • Nic919 says:

        The pictures were taken on Friday and only published in the Sunday paper. They were only published with permission of KP. No pictures of the kids end up in UK papers without the permission of KP.

  50. Sorella says:

    I dunno – maybe they had an affair or maybe it is press fabricated. Seems like the Royal stories always follow the same pattern….dating secretly, then married, then children, then a couple of years of happy family, then problems/affairs in the marriage. Just a matter of time before that same pattern befalls Harry and Megan too (once the baby is older..there will be “Harry leaves M at home to take care of baby while he flirts / parties with others”. Their stories can never be happy ones, then ALL follow this pattern. And the public eats it up (see above many comments…all loving the narrative of a marriage gone wrong). Because tragedy is more interesting to write about than any happiness I guess. Mark by words, it will happen to any and all Royals this narrative (with Megan they will add “runs away to US to escape unhappiness with Harry!!”). Hook, line an sinker, everyone falls for it (there would be just ONE GRAIN of truth, yet people fall for the ENTIRE story!).

  51. Princessk says:

    Interestingly l saw a picture, dated from around 2014 l think, of Prince Charles, Rose Hanbury and The Marquess of Cholmondeley walking away from the Royal Helicopter, which they had all obviously just alighted from.

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