Prince Harry speaks about racism, unconscious bias & only wanting 2 kids max

Britain's Prince Harry and Dr Jane Goodall dance as he attends Dr Jane Goodall's Roots & Shoots Global Leadership Meeting at St. George's House, Windsor Castle in England, Tuesday, July 23, 2019. Roots & Shoots is a global programme empowering young people of all ages, working to ignite and inspire the belief that every individual can take action to make the world a better place for people, animals and the environment.

Prince Harry is part of British Vogue’s September issue, which was guest-edited by his wife, the Duchess of Sussex. Harry’s piece is an interview/conversation with Dr. Jane Goodall, and the conversation is about conservation… and racism. It reminded me a little bit of the Lifetime movie about Harry and Meghan’s courtship, and how the Lifetime-version of Harry suddenly became super-woke when he began dating Meghan and suddenly he was telling off family members for their racism, neocolonialist attitudes and white privilege. What if it was real though?? What if Harry has become seriously woke? Some excerpts from Harry’s conversation with Dr. Goodall:

On unconscious bias: He described it as “something which so many people don’t understand, why they feel the way they do… Despite the fact that if you go up to someone and say ‘what you’ve just said, or the way you’ve behaved, is racist’ – they’ll turn around and say, ‘I’m not a racist’. ‘I’m not saying you’re a racist, I’m just saying that your unconscious bias is proving that because of the way that you’ve been brought up, the environment you’ve been brought up in, suggests that you have this point of view – unconscious point of view – where naturally you will look at someone in a different way.’ And that is the point at which people start to have to understand.”

On learned behaviors of bigotry & racism: “What I love about your work is that you focus on the younger generation. When you start to peel away all the layers, all the taught behaviour, the learned behaviour, the experienced behaviour, you start to peel all that away and at the end of the day, we’re all humans… Stigma is handed down from generation to generation, your perspective on the world and on life and on people is something that is taught to you. It’s learned from your family, learned from the older generation, or from advertising, from your environment. And, therefore, you have to be able to have a wider perspective.”

On conservation & two children max: “I think, weirdly because of the people that I’ve met and the places I’ve been fortunate enough to go, I’ve always had a connection and a love for nature. I view it differently now, without question. But I’ve always wanted to try and ensure that, even before having a child and hoping to have children…” “Not too many!” Dr Goodall interjected. “Two, maximum!” the Duke said. “But I’ve always thought: this place is borrowed. And, surely, as intelligent as we all are, or as evolved as we all are supposed to be, we should be able to leave something better behind for the next generation.”

[From The Telegraph]

“Stigma is handed down from generation to generation, your perspective on the world and on life and on people is something that is taught to you.” I really appreciate that Harry has opened his mind and grown and learned and gotten more woke. He doesn’t get enough credit for that, for working on himself and “adulting” and growing as a man. I tend to think that most people will say “well, that’s Meghan’s influence,” and maybe some of it is, maybe much of it is Meghan’s influence. But Harry does the work and he was doing the work before Meghan too.

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  1. Rhys says:

    Oh, his big brother is not going to be happy about it!

    • Wisca says:

      Cue the: Are you saying W & K have one too many children? H, do you hate your nephew? Make. It. Stop.

      • Wigletwatcher says:

        I took the comment as just Harry coming off very well spoken and taking spotlight away from Wills. Not a dig about children. Whenever harry does this wills flips out.

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      That was my first thought, too! Especially coming after the “feeling broody” comments from Kate, and the speculation on a Cam fourth.
      Poor Louis though, reading this later in life, finding his uncle finds him superfluous lol (joking!!!).

      Seriously though, while it *is* something a lot of people think about, considering the obvious tension between brothers, I have to wonder if this is a dig (consciously or not) from Harry to Will.

    • OSLO says:

      Can you leave William out of this. My God

    • Ainsley7 says:

      Will said basically the same thing. If he’s mad then he’s a hypocrite. I don’t really blame him for having a 3rd kid though. The spare is always in a weird position when it comes to what they should be doing and they get thrown under the bus for the heir. It’s the same story in every generation. At least with the Queen’s kids, it got spread around a bit. Harry and Margaret would probably have loved another sibling to share the burden with.

      • chunkyla says:

        I agree with that I’m sure Harry and Margaret would have loved younger siblings given their positions. Plus i’ve noticed that the non-heir and spare children seem to be the favourites of one or both of the parents. Kate adores Louis, there is an ease about her with him that wasn’t there before. I think the difference is Louis is ‘hers’ whereas George and Charlotte belong to the crown. Andrew is the Queen’s favourite and Prince Phillip is/was soft when it comes to Edward.

      • Mac says:

        I think it would be much better to being one of the siblings to the heir, rather than the spare.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William didn’t say the same thing. While they were expecting their third, William made statements implying only *other people* (particularly those throughout the continent of Africa) shouldn’t have more than two for environmental reasons.

        Taxpayer-funded royalty is changing every day. The Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark have issued statements that only the heir will be a working royal in the future. All younger children will go out and earn livings. 20 years from now, that may be the case with Charlotte and Louis.

        3000 people in the known line of succession to the UK throne. There is no legal requirement for W&K to have children much less a certain number. These comments about Louis strike me as ridiculous. Kate cannot love her other two children in certain ways because they belong to the nation? FFS many people in the nation don’t want any them.

      • Mac says:

        If William’s kids live entirely carbon neutral and plastic free lives, he can have as many as he wants. But since they split their time between two massive houses, drive fossil fuel burning cars, and fly on private jets, I’d say they are part of the climate problem.

      • PrincessK says:

        Harry was just stating his own preference and reasons and was not suggesting or telling anyone else to do the same.

  2. Guest says:

    Lol the people that are upset he mentioned unconscious racism are most likely the same people hes referring to. The crap his wife gets thrown at her all plays a part of that. Get ready for the talk pieces from the same group of royal reporters and idiots from royaldish that trash him over this. Guilty much?

    • TQ says:

      Agreed.

      True that the vitriol of many of the royal reporters is sometimes simply unconscious bias (also, I prefer the term ‘implicit bias’ because it suggests more ownership and awareness, plus that’s the term we use in the research), but often it is more than that — it frequently seems pretty clear explicit bias to me (ie they are conscious, aware and own their racism, sometimes publicly other times privately).

    • otaku fairy... says:

      This.

    • Mac says:

      The RRs have shown us their racism over and over. I have no doubt they will come after Harry because they can’t handle the truth.

    • Nahema says:

      I wish that he had added to that unconscious xenophobia. I really feel like that is a huge problem too and much of the reason we are in the political mess we are in here in the UK. I constantly hear people at work or on facebook talking about immigrants as though they’re all that’s wrong with the country and a huge number of those immigrants are white so it’s not a race thing. People hate them but they can’t articulate why they hate immigrants.

  3. Molly says:

    Harry’s come a very long way on stuff like this, and good for him.

  4. M says:

    I expect another round of British tabloids ripping the Sussexes to shreds. I’m sure they are going to bring up Harry’s past behaviors since he dared to speak about racism.

    • perplexed says:

      I don’t think they’ll bring up just his behaviour. They’ll likely point out his whole family’s past history ( I. E. Prince Philip) and legacy of colonialism. It should be interesting…the royal family can’t really pretend they don’t have a history of it.

      • TeddyPicker says:

        I do wonder if he and Meg had to have a conversation about ‘the Nazi costume’.

      • M says:

        Nope. I’m already seeing it on Twitter. They are only calling out Harry. I applaud him for his growth and maturity. Lots of white males keep that entitled, bigoted, frat boy mentality. What’s sad is that those men are unapologetic and end up becoming presidents and prime ministers.

      • Mac says:

        @M +1000

      • perplexed says:

        Give them time. It’s only been a couple of hours. I’m not talking only about Twitter (which isn’t actual media) either, Articles will likely be written in mainstream publications about the royal family’s history of racism, because it has been talked about in the past. How else do we know about Prince Philip and the stuff he says? The institution itself is associated with colonialism, so it’s sort of like the elephant in the room you can’t avoid.

    • ByTheSea says:

      Better late than never. He may have realized it later in life, but at least he learned. Whereas people like Piers Morgan likely never will.

      • Mac says:

        Short of a personality transplant, Piers Morgan will always be a garbage person.

      • Ann says:

        Right! Just because he wasn’t born knowing the complexities of racism and bigotry doesn’t mean he can’t learn, which he clearly has. Good for him!

      • The Other Katherine says:

        Exactly. Harry did some garbage stuff as a young man, but — unlike so many people — he changed and grew as an adult, instead of just doubling down on his worst prejudices. Doesn’t mean the earlier behavior doesn’t deserve criticism, but his work on improving himself also deserves credit.

        Piers Morgan… not so much.

  5. Melly says:

    We love a woke prince.

  6. Lala11_7 says:

    I have ALWAYS been about Zero Population Growth…I share the same belief as Indigenous People when it comes to the Earth and the population…we have finite resources…and we as the caretakers of this planet should ACT that way…PERIOD!

    And yea…he shaded TF outta his brother…..LOL!!!!

    • ADS says:

      Indeed. Whenever I hear projections about world population growth I literally feel panicky. Considering how much damage we are doing to the environment as it is how can we continue to believe that it is reasonable to keep multiplying at the same rate!

      • duchess of hazard says:

        @ADS – especially since a lot of women in the third world (when I moved around), their main imput from charities was contraception (as well as wanting the tools to run for government, etc). So when I see evangelicals wanting to push back against contraception and abortion services, I do get cross.

    • Jenns says:

      I do too.

      I will say this, as climate change intensifies and the world geography begins to change, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if there is a law on the number children a person can have. For all the people out there who talk about how they grew up in a big family and want one for themselves, or how they just have to have a third baby, there own children and grandchildren won’t have the same option.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        @ Jenna : This was what China did for decades and it had many unexpected consequences (I lived there for four years). Right now their demographics are upside-down – too many older retired people but not enough younger people who are workers and can support the older population. The one family-one child family policy helped pushed a lot of people into the middle class and grew China’s economy to a power house. And now couples are being encouraged to have more than one child.
        I’m almost 60 and I know that I will likely not see the worst of climate change but I worry about the next generation. We have left them with a mess. I keep thinking of that movie “Contagion” where a pandemic kills millions around the world. Whatever happens, I fear it won’t be pretty.

    • Jerusha says:

      Spay and neuter all the Duggars!!

    • styla says:

      Distribution of resources and how those resources are utilized is the problem, not population.

      • mackyj says:

        Exactly. The amount of resources used and pollution generated by a family of 4 in North America is more than 25 people in South Asia.

        Since the 70s there has been an environmental impact formula to analyze:
        Impact = Population * Affluence * Technology.

        By focusing on numbers ALONE and not looking deeper, you can get into Neo-Malthusian population policies which end up stoking some weird racist, classist and misogynistic laws/ideas (China’s One Child which favored boys to extremes, or Global North abusing resources and blaming Global South with vastly lower consumption rates yet the absorption of Global North pollution/waste, etc.)

      • Jane'sWastedTalent says:

        I don’t know, I’ve heard repeatedly that our planet only has the resources to support 2 billion people without anyone living in want. Fewer children sounds like a good idea (obviously not along racial lines however). Good on Harry- and even more for the rest of the content.

  7. Becks1 says:

    I’m glad to hear him talk about this. Sounds like he’s being pretty open and honest and it seems he has grown up a lot. Maybe the super-woke part of the Lifetime movie wasn’t too far off, lol.

    (although my favorite part of that one was when Charles was like “if they have any issues with it, they can take it up with the next in line!!!!”)

  8. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Yes and yes and yes to everything he said. Harry has grown up so much and I agree that a lot of that was before Meghan. I also think being with Meghan and seeing how she is treated differently drives these things home for him. He gets to see it from a very different perspective.

    • MrsBanjo says:

      Yes, this. I don’t think Meghan would have stuck around if he hadn’t already done the work on himself.

      • Valiantly Varnished says:

        I don’t think he would have gotten past their first meeting if he hadn’t.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yup, I think he grew up and changed a lot before meeting Meghan, but I think she also helped him to have a better understanding of racism and what POC face on a daily basis. I also think the treatment of Archie is really driving it home for Harry, unfortunately.

    • VirgiliaCoriolanus says:

      He is experiencing what it is like to be with a black woman….and seeing how his son has been treated within what? 3 days of his birth…he was already being compared to a monkey. That’s just not something Harry has ever had to deal with.

      For example, my dad is white and my mom is black, and he was shocked and horrified when after we moved to HIS hometown a few years after they were married, that my mom had to wipe spit off the door handle of her truck. Because someone had seen her go into Walmart, waited until she left, and spit all over the handle of her truck. And this has happened more than once.

    • Anance says:

      Here, here! (Pounds on table)

  9. duchess of hazard says:

    Wow, good on him. Considering he was rocking Nazi wear whilst attending one of those posho parties where people were in black face and such, that’s GROWTH.

    • Mumbles says:

      Yeah, let’s see if it sticks. The crowd that he and his brother and sister-in-law run with ain’t the most enlightened-looking bunch – rich and horsey and inbred and dumb. And if the rumors of them mocking Kate because her mother was an air attendant are true, they ain’t too “woke.” I get it, it’s hard when you are born in this circle, these are your “peers.” But does he socialize with his former Army colleagues? Or any of the Invictus athletes? Have dinner with some of the staff of one of his patronage charities? Let’s see if he expands his social circle.

      • Tina says:

        Harry has already been criticised for “abandoning” his old friends when he and Meghan got together, so I’m pretty sure their social circle has expanded considerably.

      • DS9 says:

        What does criticizing a white woman have to with being woke?

      • notasugarhere says:

        The doors-to-manual didn’t come from William’s set. It was part of the PR spin put out by the Middletons during that breakup. William’s set did come up with the nickname The Limpet for Kate.

    • otaku fairy... says:

      Yeah, this guy has come quite a LONG way. Few come that far.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Your name outs you as being from the cesspool of RD.

      Harry wore the costume, idiot. William picked it out and goaded him into wearing it. William went to the party in black tights and dressed as a Zulu (see shopkeepers interview). No, he was not dressed as a lion or a leopard. Covered up by the press, photos are out there if you dig hard enough. Heir vs spare press treatment again.

      Last year, William was implying people on the African continent needed to stop having children because they were damaging the environment. At the same time he and his lily white wife were having a third child. Guess he only has a problem when it is POC having children.

      I’ll take a learned-from-his-massive-mistakes Harry over intrinsically racist William any day.

      • duchess of hazard says:

        @notasugarhere: Okay, I’ll bite, what’s RD? Research and Development? Or…

        Harry wore the costume, idiot.

        I didn’t rock a Nazi costume at 21, he did, so you’re not really addressing me or my behaviour at all. I commented on Harry’s growth, and how it was odd given his background. I’m astonished at you attacking me with such vitriol, to be honest? Do we know each other, at all?

      • whatever says:

        @duchess of hazard

        RD stands for Royal Dish.

        and @notasugarhere, I occasionally browse RD and I have definitely seen the same anti-W&K posters post on RD and here. The same usernames and almost identical comments give the game away. It goes both ways hun.

      • Mac says:

        William is not responsible for Harry putting on a Nazi costume. William is not responsible for Harry using a racial slur against Pakistanis while in the army. Nor is William responsible for Harry growing, improving himself, and trying to see the world without the lens of extreme privilege. Harry, and Harry alone, is responsible for all of these things.

      • Becks1 says:

        I thought @nota’s post was aimed at someone else (something that got deleted or in the wrong place) because it seemed out of place?

      • Purplehazeforever says:

        How many of us wore a Nazi costume at 21? I imagine very few of us make that kind of blunder. And William was behind the costume? Sure…that’s the first time I heard that one. Harry has grown but that was one stupid & gross thing he did. You’re implying he didn’t have a mind of his own at 21.

      • JustSayin' says:

        I thought the theme for the costume party was ‘tasteless costumes’? So he was right on, no?

      • notasugarhere says:

        In case of confusion, I’m referring to Harry as the idiot not any posters here. All the new pro-Kate, anti-Meghan posters may not know I’ve referred to Harry as an idiot on here many times in the past.

        William is a lousy older brother, always has been. From picking out that costume and goading Harry to wear it, to covering up his part in it and wearing a Zulu costume, and throwing Harry under the wheels of the bus with Club H.

  10. Taryn says:

    When you enter a partnership with someone who is not white, you start to see how the world treats not just them but you as a couple. Racism becomes part of your life in a way you probably would have never noticed and It feels very personal, so how can you not speak about it? It would be tone deaf if he carried on acting like the vile things the media says about his wife aren’t racist. I kinda like to think he and Meghan have definitely had some late night discussions surrounding race, discrimination, and bias that have made him more conscious of how to address these issues.

    • duchess of hazard says:

      @Tayrn – yeah, at least he shows that he’s listening. I mean, this is where I’ll roll my eyes at white people and go, “GDI why does it take for you get woke by osmosis (in terms of being in a relationship with a non white person) than figuring it out? Us non white people have to figure out white people’s motives all the time in order to get jobs – heck in order not to get shot! But the fact that someone white in the BRF is saying it is saying something, so I can’t moan.

      Much.

      • Taryn says:

        Oh I agree with your frustrations! When I met my partner who is white British and raised in a very uppity posh family, he had NO clue how ingrained racism was in society because he never grew up around it. We started having discussions and he’s super “woke” about everything now, but it makes me sad realizing if we didn’t meet, he would have probably never truly gotten it. That being said I think having relationships (i.e. friendships) with people who don’t look like you are the best way to properly challenge bias, it’s just that so many people couldn’t and won’t step out of their bubbles.

    • whitecat says:

      This is sooo true and I believe this is kind of what happened to Harry. The racist attacks on Meghan from the tabloids of course are going to be personal for Harry as well! And I am sure he can see that no matter him being a white man, he cannot protect his mixed-race wife from these attacks.
      A similar situation happened when I married my man who is white (I am Middle Eastern), and not only did the racist crap I deal with frequently opened his eyes, but the way people treated us was different. Suddenly he was getting extra security searched and his presence doesn’t necessarily make others back off.

    • kerwood says:

      I think that a lot of White men who enter into relationships with Black women (I say Black women because I’m not aware that the hostility is as strong with other women of colour) assume that their White privilege will be extended to their woman. Instead, they become ‘honorary Black folks’ and it’s hard for a lot of them.

      One of my ex-boyfriends was from the South and he couldn’t believe what was happening. He’d SEEN racism all his life but he’d never EXPERIENCED it before. And he couldn’t understand why I was so casual. He was ready to fight at EVERY slight. I told him that I’d learned to pick my battles. It was exhausting.

      • noway says:

        I know people see it, but you are right experiencing it is totally different. I’m not a person of color, but I married an arabic man and have an arabic last name. My child was told by a teacher assistant once she had that terrorist look about her. I was pissed and did tell the office, but we both laughed at the stupidity of it. She was a bit older when this happened, late teens. Cause honestly, what are going to do? She just wanted to finish that class and move on not deal with him forever, and who can blame her.

        I did wonder about other people who have to deal with that kind of thing and worse everyday and in every aspect of their life. I’m a bit surprised some groups who do get abuse don’t have a bit more sympathy for the others who get more. I mean white women please where are you?. Women in general are paid less not given jobs and generally discriminated on, sure not the most but they do face it. Yet it seems their sympathy doesn’t run for other groups much.

  11. MellyMel says:

    And this is what you call GROWTH. Good for him.

  12. Burdzeye View says:

    Not just racism, what about classism? The UK is rife with it….the establishment are still in charge here in the 21st century. Just ask his brother and his turnip-toff mates.

    • noway says:

      This is what I think too. Sometimes I think us in the US put the racism label on places that don’t have the same history as us. I think in the UK it is a lot more classism than here and that is also a big part of the crap Meghan has to deal with. Not saying racism isn’t part of it, but I just don’t think it is the same.

  13. Anon says:

    This is precisely why Harry is, and will continue, to be a global icon. Because it took a lot of courage and willpower for someone from his background to marry (probably against his family’s wishes) this woman, who is proving herself to be quite a force to be reckoned with.

    I wish them nothing but peace and happiness.

  14. Toot says:

    Harry’s interview was perfect and can see why Meghan loves him.

    Harry was so intelligent in this interview. His mind is on it.

    • Citresse says:

      How intelligent is it to reveal something as personal and private as their family planning, yet continue to guard the identities of Archie’s godparents? Bizarre. Was his wife aware he was going to reveal that information? It goes to show you how petty and low Harry will sink to play stupid games and in the process, insult his brother’s family.

      • kerwood says:

        Comments like these are the reasons why Archie’s godparents CHOSE to remain anonymous. There are way too many people out there obsessed about something that’s none of their damn business

        As for insulting his brother’s family…William insulted Meghan before she and Harry even got married, and she’s been nothing but civil to him and his wife. William hasn’t said a word about the vile treatment his sister-in-law has received, mainly from racists and obsessed fans of his wife.

        Harry didn’t say a word about his brother or his family. If Harry’s words brought Normal Bill’s hypocrisy to mind, then it’s on Bill to stop being a hypocrite.

      • Olenna says:

        @citresse, good grief! “Low and petty”? What has Harry done to you or anyone else that that warrants such a mean-spirited accusation?
        @kerwood, you’re absolutely right; Harry never said a word or inferred that his brother was doing anything wrong. I’ll never understand the vileness this couple brings out in some people. I was on Twitter today and between our country going down the right-wing shitter to authoritarianism and a handful of bigoted RRs attacking a well-meaning duchess, I had to quickly bale. Exposure to too much irrational hate and mental instability can dampen one’s spirit.

      • noway says:

        First I don’t think saying you want 2 children max is shading your brother’s 3 child family, unless you are gossip queen hacks wanting to invent shade. Please!!!
        Second, beside gossip comments do we have any concrete comments where William actually insulted Meghan? Not another oblique comment like the 3 child comment either. Creative thinking isn’t lost for sure.

        Third, in general the monarchy doesn’t comment at all or let their royal family members comment? I mean Mike Tindall was getting crap for divulging personal royal info, and he isn’t even a working royal. This is why these articles are interesting. I’m sure the Sussexes ran this by protocol and if the Queen didn’t approve she’d stop it. We might not like that Charles, the Cambridges and others aren’t saying anything, but this is probably the most effective avenue. Even if the others were out every day saying this is wrong, not sure anyone would give it credence, especially if it was William. Seems people like their ideas about how these people are better than what the truth is. Plus, I think the Sussexes are showing every sign that they are following the palaces protocol for a family at their line to the throne. Yes they are a bit different than the Cambridges, but not that far out of the norm to clutch your pearls or anything, and none of their children will probably sit on the throne either. My only thing is it does seem like a very personal article and if you then try to claim you want your personal life off limits it seems a bit of a mixed message to me.

  15. Chisey says:

    Honestly I think if/how many kids a person has is such a personal issue that I don’t believe others should weigh in on it. If Harry or anyone wants to have fewer kids then by all means do so, but shading someone else’s family is a bad idea. To me, it’s right up there with people who get condescending with child free people. I think Harry’s comments were better than William’s because at least he’s talking about his own life not other people’s, but even so it came across badly to me.

    • Arnk says:

      I agree we all have to be mindful of the choices we make but once the child is here there’s really no point in making comments.

      But yeah I find it weird how them limiting their family to only 2 children is supposed to be woke. That’s just the national average.

      I’m from a country with negative population growth and honestly don’t know many families with more than 2 kids so I was a bit surprised.

    • notasugarhere says:

      William talking about humans negative impact on the environment while choosing to overburden the planet with more than two children. That hypocrisy should be called out.

      • PrincessK says:

        I agree that it was wrong for William to imply that the poor from the developing world are the problem for having loads of kids. An average western family uses up much more of the world’s resources than whole village in developing countries.

        However if royals have more than two it makes little difference but since people do mimic what the royals do, having two kids only could set a trend. I have three but l have instructed them to only have two..lol! The main reason is that raising children in a good environment has become very expensive and most important children need to have a lot of individual time with their parents.

  16. Mary says:

    I’m so glad the man who wore a NAZI costume to a party can now lecture the rest of us on racism. Someone needs to take a look in the mirror on the cover of the magazine…

    • Taryn says:

      It’s called growth, Mary.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      He did take a look and made changes to himself. That’s called self-awareness. That’s called growth.

    • M says:

      I don’t think this is a lecture. Harry sounds like someone who is trying to correct past mistakes and is having an honest and open discussion about racism and how it affects people.

      Also, he is the perfect person to speak on racism because of his past behavior. Racism won’t end until people start identifying and acknowledging their own biases against others.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Are you so glad the older brother who went dressed as a Zulu is still as racist as ever?

      • kerwood says:

        Nazism is BAD. But to many people, blackface is sacred. I have no doubt that more people would wear it if they thought they could get away with it. So if William wore blackface, he’s only offending Black people and to much of the world, there ain’t nothing wrong with that.

  17. Seraphina says:

    I don’t think it matter whose influence it is but that he is growing as a person. That is monumental because so many people do not grow intellectually or emotionally or spiritually. Especially people who come from immense privilege such as PH. Kudos to him.

  18. RoyalBlue says:

    @mary and that’s the beauty of life. Even the lowliest of us can achieve redemption with sincere change. Harry, like all of us, is a work in progress.

  19. jennifer says:

    I love the photo of him and Goodall under the umbrella, so cute.

  20. TheOriginalMia says:

    Harry is woke. No wonder Meghan fell for him. This is the man she sees and loves. I’m so happy he found a partner who supports his growth and empowers him to continue in this path.

    And yes, to being a responsible inhabitant of this planet! Walk the talk, Harry & Meghan!

    • notasugarhere says:

      I think this is why Felipe and Letizia chose to stop at two, for environmental reasons. That plus wanting to ensure the first born (female) heir would become the next monarch.

  21. SV says:

    People often forget Michelle Obama had Harry supporting her girls education projects before he ever met Meghan. He was making progress as a person, but obviously that has been accelerated since Meghan came into his life.

  22. sotheysay says:

    This is the perfect example of virtue signaling. He should have put this into Tatler because the class system he enjoy need this His part of the founding organization of racism and classicism. He take all The benefits that comes with being at the top of that system, which he will never live behind. But now because married a white passing woman. ( She played daughter to 2 white people on one of her Hallmark movie). He will now lecture everyone about racism. I have to laugh.

    • Imara219 says:

      Yeah, I have to agree with you here.

    • M says:

      Your statement is one of the reasons I know that a lot of people have been ignoring some of Harry’s past interviews and speeches. He talked about women’s rights, feminism, inequality, and his white privilege long before he started dating Meghan.

      • sotheysay says:

        He doesn’t get to be part of white supremacy that is the Royal family but then give interview to magazine about racism. He does get to walk around act like he care, and then representing the very system that keep class and race problem alive. and take all the benefits and protections that came with it too. that’s why i said he’s the perfect example of virtue signaling, it does matter how many interview he give before at the end of the day his helping does problems perpetuate in society.

      • notasugarhere says:

        sotheysay, so we’re to ignore the fact that Harry has been the victim of white supremacists as well, with the two men in prison for threatening to kill him as a race traitor? Right.

        Harry’s learning things he never would have learned if he hadn’t married a biracial woman. Things William will never choose to learn.

      • sotheysay says:

        Do you know what white supremacist is?? It’s a system like the one he is part of that said because of who his parents are we should for some reason listen to what is has to say. That made him an ambassador to the commonwealth which he has no qualification for. That gave him privileges access to certain institutions like the school he went to, which shut out minorities from the UK. and i’m not sure why we talking about William he is part of the system too. at least his not acting fake woke.

    • Anitas says:

      Yes. And it’s telling he didn’t include himself in the “so many people” he talked about or acknowledge his personal journey to wokeness. He just dishes out wisdom like he was born with it. He says the right words, but he’s still a privileged arse living in a bubble, enjoying the lifestyle based on classism and inequality. They’re all happy to talk the talk but never to walk the walk.

  23. Meg says:

    Yeah you can talk to someone about being ‘woke’ until you’re blue in the face but if they dont want to learn and change they wont. Many say they’re open minded but unconsciously dont consider dating someone of a different race for example. Its like someone saying they support gay rights but are cold and unwelcoming to the girlfriend their daughter brings home. Its easy to talk but not as easy to live those beliefs

  24. Lowrider says:

    This is definitely not the Harry that called poc racial slurs and dressed up as a nazi for amusement. I do not credit the brf or Meghan for his change so I’m wondering what was the trigger.

    • Tina says:

      Why wouldn’t you credit Meghan for his change? Being in love with someone who experiences racism is very likely to have changed him.

  25. Rogue says:

    @Sotheysay- given the climate I wish we could have mature discussion about things like racism- it’s reduced to “lecturing other people” or “virtue signalling”. Sounds like him and Jane were having a discussion about awareness of unconscious bias. I didn’t see demands that people should do X.

    The BRF are some of the original slave traders&they benefit from system of privilege& inequality so addressing social issues will always be tough and require nuance but I’m glad some because of their platform means some people may listen. I wouldnt mind if monarchy was overthrown tomorrow but whilst they are there I will support attempts to use their privilege to help with some stigmas like Diana with aids. I thought it was great to see William on Attitude’s front cover and his support for the LGBT community recently.

    Regarding Meghan being white passing- she’s always looked black bi racial but nonetheless doesn’t mean she hasn’t experienced racism . Meghan has probably also benefitted from light skin privilege but that didn’t preclude her from seeing her mum called the N word or called the maid by relatives . And hasn’t stopped racially charged attacks in the media against Meghan and her mum. Harry being a Prince hasn’t stopped his son being compared to an ape at 3 days old so having wealth, privilege etc doesn’t insulate you from these issues.

    • Gingerbee says:

      Well said, Rogue.

    • A says:

      People who don’t like being lectured to, or who think that you have no place to lecture them for whatever reason, often revert to the “virtue signalling” accusation as a means to deflect criticism lol. Anyway, the fact that they think Meghan counts as white passing is telling in and of itself (as if playing the daughter of two white people on a fictional TV movie is some kind of acceptable metric for this type of thing, LOL).

  26. Well-Wisher says:

    It is the textbook definition of racism. I see no need to expand or comment about it.
    The urgency is in the environment and climate change. I hopt the ideas expressed can be further explored in detail. There are some dire consequences of doing nothing.
    Good on Prince Harry to continue this discussion.

  27. JanetFerber says:

    I agree with Prince Harry. I have one child and would not want another. The attack against women’s reproduction rights in this country is not only bad for women, but bad for the world.

  28. Mtec says:

    I wish he hadn’t said that thing about only wanting two kids. What if next time Meghan is pregnant she gives birth to twins, then ppl will find some way to come for her again, like she imposed a third child on Harry or w.e im sure the crazies can find a better irrational judgment than the one i just gave lol

  29. A says:

    I feel like this is a super thoughtful way to put it, and I’m glad he’s able to learn and grow as a person when it comes to these things. I think that’s the most that any of us can hope for.

  30. Lainey says:

    He knows what he’s talking about because he was brought up in that world but was able to grow and do better. Harry and Meghan are the best hope for hanging on to the Commonwealth. Assuming Charles ascends to the throne, he may be the last King. That said, I think Charles is wise to cull the royal herd and banish pervy Andrew. He’s smart enough to know H&M are the best representatives.

  31. kerwood says:

    I think a lot of racists and White supremacists are angry at Harry for leaving the fold. They thought he was one of them because of the things he’d said and that Nazi costume. How dare he betray them by marrying a Negress and actually having a child with her. Their bitter tears are sweet, SWEET nectar to me.

  32. oddly says:

    Harry has always said he would like lots of kids, I think the two kids idea is more Meghans than Harry’s.

  33. Rogue says:

    Harry didn’t say he wanted 2 kids to “save the planet”. I don’t think he even expanded on why 2 kids max- could be he likes that it was just him and Wills growing up. So typical spin for another round of bashing.

    On the unconscious bias discussion funny that THATs been spun too and interesting how people like Dampier are upset about the comments and saying he’s lecturing others. Must have struck a nerve considering he didn’t call out any individual etc. Was William lecturing when he was leading great discussion on his support for the LGBT community during that recent charity visit?

    Anyway I too would have liked if Harry had linked to his own background and problematic behaviour when discussing unconscious bias& racism. Perhaps if the anti Harry/Meghan press ever cools down a mature discussion could be had on that