The Cambridges’ budget-flight stunt involved two empty jets being flown across the UK

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As we heard late last week, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge made the choice to fly to Scotland with their children. They chose to fly on a budget airline, Flybe. The Daily Mail scooped up the exclusive photos and video of the Cambridges walking off their flight in Aberdeen. We knew it was a complete set-up at the time. We knew that Prince William and the Kensington Palace communications office had set up the whole tarmac walk as a photoshoot, and we knew why – this was Work-shy Will putting his back into something, and that something was being an a–hole to his brother and sister-in-law. The Sussexes’ private plane rides had been in the headlines for more than a week when the Cambridges pulled their sh-tty budget-flight photoshoot – and the KP comm office even provided unnamed-source quotes praising the Cambridges’ frugality, recent though it may be. It was like William couldn’t help but leave his fingerprints all over the crime scene.

Well, if looks like the whole story is even funnier, stupider and more amazing than all of that. The crux of the plane issue – when it came to the Sussexes – was the ENVIRONMENT. As in, how could Harry speak about environmental anything when he and his *sniff* American wife fly on private planes. The carbon footprint! The fuel! The hypocrisy! So it’s especially funny that when William attempted to show off his family’s frugality and environmentalism, he totally played himself.

Two empty jets were flown on behalf of Flybe some 500 miles as part of taking the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their children to Aberdeen on Thursday, The Scotsman has learned. The revelation comes days after William and Kate were praised for using an economy flight from Norwich when Prince Harry and 
Meghan have been criticised for a series of private jet trips. It is understood the empty flights made by the two 49-seat aircraft cost around four tonnes of carbon.

An aviation source with knowledge of what happened said the plane which normally flies the route had been replaced by a Flybe-branded aircraft in an attempt to maximise press coverage for the company. Eastern Airways, which operates the route for Flybe, confirmed to The Scotsman it swapped a Loganair plane normally used for the flight for another of the same type of jet with Flybe markings. Eastern said this was so it would be “wholly compliant and in control of the operation”. The substitution involved an empty Embraer 45 jet being flown some 100 miles from Humberside airport to Norwich to pick up the Royal party and regular passengers.

Loganair’s own Embraer plane then also flew empty some 400 miles from Norwich to Aberdeen so it could operate the next flight back to Norwich. The source said: “An Eastern Airways jet was flown empty from Humberside to Norwich and then flew the scheduled flight to Aberdeen with the Royals on board. The Loganair aircraft which normally flies this route for Flybe and Eastern flew from Aberdeen to Norwich as usual but then flew empty from Norwich to Aberdeen. I guess it was to ensure if they had any Press coverage of the Royal travel, an aircraft with a Flybe logo flew them. Heck of a carbon footprint to achieve it – not exactly environmentally conscious.”

Eastern Airways said it had chosen to switch the aircraft after being told the Royal party had booked onto the flight. General manager (commercial and operations) Roger Hage said: “Following a call and details provided late evening on Wednesday as to members of the Royal Family having been booked onto the service, and that armed Royal Protection Officers would accompany the family on-board, we elected, given this service is operated for Flybe by Eastern, to provide our own aircraft and crew, given the approvals and clearance required 
to accommodate such. This then assured ourselves on our own Air Operators Certificate that we would be wholly compliant and in control of the operation in accordance with associated regulation. Hence we positioned an aircraft on a short 25-minute leg to facilitate the above.”

[From The Scotsman]

Despite what some reporters claimed about the Cambridges’ trip being booked “months in advance,” William really called up the budget airline Flybe and asked for budget tickets last minute, and he and his staff made sure that Flybe knew that he, his family and his protection officers would all be on board. This was a wink-and-nudge for Flybe to provide special service, which they did. Of course William knew that it was a special service. I say this because “sources” are strenuously denying any knowledge:

According to their fellow travellers, the Cambridges slipped on to the plane discreetly shortly before take-off, and sat in the front few rows, exiting first in the hope they would not be recognised. The Loganair aircraft which should have taken them to Scotland, and had brought an earlier load of passengers from Aberdeen to Norwich as part of its regular shuttle service, took off from Norfolk empty around 45 minutes later, according to official flight records.

The source said: ‘It’s utterly extraordinary and makes a mockery of their family’s very laudable attempts to travel more economically and in a more environmentally friendly manner. An additional 4.5 tons of carbon emissions were created simply to ensure that an aircraft with Flybe written on the side operated the flight with the Royal party aboard, instead of the usual aircraft which flies the route. It’s obviously not their fault but is utterly ridiculous.’

William and Kate were completely unaware of the switch and had not asked for special treatment, aside from slipping in at the last minute. A Kensington Palace spokesman declined to comment but it is likely the couple will be mortified.

[From The Daily Mail]

“It’s obviously not their fault but is utterly ridiculous.” Is their blamelessness actually obvious at all? I don’t think it is. You know what would not surprise me at all? If this was all supposed to be some kind of undercover advertising for Flybe anyway, like the royal family’s undercover sponsorship with Land Rover. William probably offered Flybe free publicity – in exchange for what? – and of course Flybe jumped at the chance to be featured within a story of William’s petty clownery. Oh, well, Work-Shy Will. You actually tried to do a thing and it came back to bite you on the royal arse. Well played, karma.

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  1. Sierra says:

    Haha haha – karma is such a wonderful woman….

    • Kittycat says:

      Indeed

    • Seraphina says:

      Yes she is ;)

    • ME says:

      Was there any other passengers on the plane they were on? I mean, if it was just them, their security, and nanny, then it’s still pretty much a private plane ! Not to mention the two empty planes that flew beside them ! Ridiculous ! The royal family are basically rich people on welfare. I don’t know why Brits put up with this.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        I wonder how many people were bumped to make room for the 5 of them, mummy, the nanny, and all of the RPOs each one of them have (2 per royal?). That has to be at least 17 seats or more (10 RPOs, the 5 Cams, mummy, and Nanny Maria)? That’s almost 1/2 of the plane (doesn’t it only hold about 40-45 seats?)

      • StarGreek says:

        I’d bet the passengers were friends or anyone who could be vetted quickly.

        I had commenters jumping at my throat when I said in the other threads that they cannot jump on a plane like the plebs, it’s impossible unless the RPOs (who are part a division of MI5) green light the whole thing.

        That makes the last minute hop on a plane thing impossible.

      • Kebbie says:

        @stargreek Can you explain the vetting thing? What exactly is acceptable or unacceptable in other passengers? I mean they’ve all gone through security, so it’s not like they could hurt the royals. Are you saying people with criminal histories or something like that can’t fly on a commercial flight with the royals?

      • gm says:

        My advice after reaching middle age, is to stop before doing something mean spirited. I still advise to do what is best for yourself, ie someone is fired for something and you are offered the job, take it! But don’t set someone up to be fired. I doubt that many people read about the 2 empty jets compared to the “budget” travel but enough so IMO it showed this was not a flight planned far in advance but more spur of the moment to take advantage of the bad publicity/press around his brother. The drawback besides the do unto others, is it makes him look mean spirited to do this to his brother, secondly, long term it sets the press up to start looking at the Cambridges travel from here on, I doubt he really want to give up his prviate plane travel.
        Does he not see the future? Prince Harry may be shining bright now and popular but soon enough, his own children and Archie will be grabbing the headlines. Let it go, I believe he loves his brother and he should support him, not try to one up him negatively (feel free to one up him with more work).

    • Louise177 says:

      What’s funny is that now it’s obvious that they booked the tickets so last minute. If the story actually gains steam I doubt that fact will get mentioned.

      • Lorri says:

        The monarchy is stupid and NONE of them should lecture to the poors about being more environmentally responsible. I don’t care if it’s a Sussex or a Cambridge – I don’t give a fuck what their opinion is on my airline usage.

    • Hope says:

      People need to learn to stop coming for the Sussexes.

      LMAO!

      • bamaborn says:

        We’ve got their backs. Lol! The other one just seems petty and juvenile.

      • Some chick says:

        They just do not get it!

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Omg lol. Is it stupidity or arrogance? You have got to be kidding me. They are like someone who publishes pictures of themselves with a tub of money.. that they robbed from a bank. 🤦🏻‍♀️ The bar for them is so low …

    • bamaborn says:

      She’s a real b*tch!! Thank you Ms. Karma.

    • StarGreek says:

      Yep! 😂

      Anything that the Eastern A. source said in this article is what I said in about 30 posts in the last 3 threads, namely that:

      - they needed more or less 20 seats out of 49
      - their carbon footprint was going to be worse than if they had used a private jet they already owned
      - their security requirements had to be fulfilled
      - it was going to be more expensive for the UK taxpayers than Harry and Meghan using Elton John’s private jet (which I don’t pay for, he does)

      I hate to say everyone “I told you so”.
      And from this source, if the charade included empty jets, it is even worse than I had imagined :-(

  2. SKF says:

    I mean, it’s kind of amusing and they were being d*cks; but I’m pretty sure that this is not what they would have wanted and that the airline did this on their own. Of course if the Cambridges fly the airline has to be notified – for security reasons. I don’t actually think it was the Cambridges trying to get special treatment (they get it anyway) or doing an undercover marketing deal.

    • Kittycat says:

      The Cambridges booked a last minute flight on a budget airline to score pr points.

      What they didnt plan on is the airline switching planes to maximize their exposure.

      I’m sure the next time they throw the Sussexes under the bus the Cambridges will work better with the co-conspirators.

      All this indeed of doing their actual jobs

    • Nic919 says:

      Several people who have worked on flights with royals have commented that there is a aircraft standard required when any senior royal uses the aircraft. At least for any aircraft originating from the UK. The originally scheduled plane may or may not have met that standard, but once the airline was advised that a Royal was going to be on the flight, they had to comply with that standard and since they only found out on Wednesday that William and Kate were going fly that route, the airline made a last minute exchange with the empty planes. The Scotsman is not a tabloid and Alistair Dalton normally covers the transport beat and not the royals, so it’s pretty obvious that this was all done last minute after a call from KP on a Wednesday.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Ooh thats interesting info – blows it up even more don’t you think. The royals still royalling even when flying budget with the plebs. Just adds more to the fact that they changed their travel plans last min to gain some PR brownie points.

      • marjorie says:

        Hopefully “standard” is from an esthetic perspective and does not mean safety standard — i.e. more precautions are taken for royals than those that are in place for the unwashed public? A royal needs a “safer” plane than the rest of us?

      • SusieQ says:

        @Marjorie, I was wondering the same thing. Do they get a safer plane than the rest of us would? If so, yikes…

      • Spicecake38 says:

        Yeah,@marjorie and @ Susie what standard are we talking about here,I actually,sadly did take it to mean safety.Maybe the plane must be inspected x number of hours prior to a royal flying on said aircraft vs peasants get whatever is standard??

      • Myra says:

        Nic99: So the Cambridge’s knew or KP knew ahead of time that this entire flight was a scam.

      • MA says:

        @Nic919 I find it VERY interesting that Dalton was surprised that the Daily Mail (Rebecca English) got the scoop too, when he was investigating no one gave an indication that anyone else was checking on it. Also very interesting is how RE’s piece tried to spin it more positively than his (the Cambridges had no idea, the planes flew 100 miles instead of 400). Meaning someone tipped off KP and KP got their mouthpiece to put another narrative out there simultaneously

      • StarGreek says:

        @Nic919

        Yes that is what I had been trying to explain in all my comments, I have no idea why many people had fallen for the whole “flying like the plebs” charade

      • Nic919 says:

        Star Greek, for some people the Cambridges can never do any wrong and they never play PR games despite consistent patterns outlined over time. Your comments about the protocol relating to the flight made perfect sense and it’s just too bad more people weren’t willing to listen.

      • Lucylee says:

        The original article addressed the issue of the special standards that needed to be met. And, they wanted to be certain they were not violating any of the agreements.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      It’s all on the Cambridges. When you call a last minute flight and in its efforts to get a plane suitable for you and your entourage, sends an empty jet with way bigger carbon footprints than a private jet, that’s on you! Egg on your face.

      • bettyrose says:

        It’s friggin’ hilarious though. More than once, I’ve needed to book myself on a last minute discount flight, which in this day and age means getting your seat assignment at the gate, carrying only one bag that fits under the seat, and swigging a $10 drink to survive 5 hours packed in like sardines. My carbon foot print is doing okay, but dayum I’m glad I don’t travel for work any more.

    • sarah says:

      So Flybe changed planes for a marketing deal but, where are the photos with the Cambridge’s and the Flybe plane in the background? Did I miss them?

      Why would Flybe think they were going to even get enough press coverage to make them want to switch the planes for the logo in the first place? They dealt with three airports, three planes and probable schedule delays all for a possibility of a photo? Isn’t that a lot of money to waste?

    • Kate says:

      I mean, it’s possible that they saw the negative reaction to Harry & Meghan flying on a public plane and decided that it was better to change last minute from a private plane to a commercial flight. I don’t think that this necessarily screams that they are trolling the Sussexes.

  3. Toot says:

    The real part of the updated story that turns my stomach is Will and Kate booked this flight Wed night and made sure these photos got published to get their cheap PR points against Meghan and Harry.

    We all know if Will didn’t want these out, they would not have been seen. We’ve seen nothing from their Mustique flight or previous flights to Balmoral in recent years (since people say they do this budget flying all the time). If the flight was booked ahead like some have said, because of security reasons like it should be, the airline would have had the planes they wanted to be seen already in place, so no need for the shuffling of planes.

    KP probably told the airline that they would get free publicity(Cambridge tarmac photo shoot) since they were able to fit them in on such short notice. So yeah, their (W&K) fault.

    • Kittycat says:

      Its disgusting.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Plus I wouldn’t be surprised if William asked for the flights to be free in exchange for the PR – how gauche and how Hollywood of him!!!

      William is well known to be cheap and doesn’t like paying for things himself. He’s like the Middleton’s, will take all the comps and freebie’s he can get.

    • MA says:

      Someone pointed out–WHO took the video/pics? Paid paparazzi? RPOs? No way it was passengers behind them for security reasons, royals would’ve been boarded LAST.

      • Kebbie says:

        I thought the photos were taken in Scotland after they got off the plane. They were the first to get off and that was them leaving.

  4. portobadisco11 says:

    I think for those that were dubious as to the reason behind Royal Reporters attitude towards Meghan, this episode has blown the lid wide open. They’re in cahoots with Willy and Kate. The way they were defending them by saying flight booked in advance when in fact it was only booked on Wednesday has damaged all their reputations if they had any left

    • Kittycat says:

      It exposed them all. The Cambridges, the royal reporters, and the British media are all in bed together.

      Good luck in the age of social media.

    • bonobochick says:

      Chris Ship, Rebecca English, and Emily Andrews all swore those Flybe tickets were purchased months in advance before this empty planes last minute scramble story broke, with Chris being the loudest about it on Twitter.

      Chris has yet to comment on the Cambridges buying their tickets at the last minute, let alone the empty planes and carbon footprint angles. It is quite telling the difference in the UK media reactions.

      Also, RE’a spin on this story to make the Cambridges seem 100% innocent was hilarious as was her insistence on only making it one plane at 123 miles empty instead of 2 planes at 500 miles. She also seemed to gloss over the tickets being bought at the last minute.

      Lastly, who took the tarmac pics and who was the person who saw Carole Middleton on that “crowded” plane?

      • bamaborn says:

        That “daily fail” site was hilarious with all the pretzel twisting comments. Again, thank you Ms. Karma.

      • L4frimaire says:

        So what was their original travel plan? They were probably going to take a private jet and helicopter it from there. That probably was planned so those arrangements were scrapped at the last minute. Maybe they’ll next plant a vegetable garden to show how green and frugal they are. These people are not only ridiculous but such hypocrites. Anything to get a cheap shot in.

  5. portobadisco11 says:

    I think for those that were dubious as to the reason behind Royal Reporters attitude towards Meghan, this episode has blown the lid wide open. They’re in cahoots with Willy and Kate. The way they were defending them by saying flight booked in advance when in fact it was only booked on Wednesday has damaged all their reputations if they had any left

  6. Oh No says:

    Unaware??? Not their fault???

    Well aren’t they just poor, little ignorant babies.

    The world can be so cruel… /s

  7. Bella DuPont says:

    William has all the worst traits of his mother. What a manipulative jerk.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      He has inherited both parents negative personality traits, whereas Harry seems to have inherited their positive personality traits.

      I for one do NOT want the Cambridges on the throne – William is a lot more like his Uncle Andrew than people think, with even more effort to cover up his indiscretions than Andrews.

      • Spicecake38 says:

        Ive thought this before,I was young enough when Diana was alive to think she was all perfect princess ,mother,wife,and have come to see she also was incredibly manipulative and petty.William reminds me of Diana only in a negative way.

      • Moose says:

        I think the monarchy will end with Charles; Normal Bill just isn’t up to the job… all that waiting on Katie’s part will have been wasted LOL!

      • Himmiefan says:

        I too think the monarchy will end with Charles because with sentimentality for Elizabeth, many won’t like seeing someone else on the throne plus society becoming more egalitarian plus Will’s own unlikability equals Will out of a job. If he does become king, I see H&M leaving for the US.

    • Kittycat says:

      I need to look up whether Charles has done this crap to his siblings.

      I’m sure he has but I would want examples because I truly think William got the worst qualities of both his parents.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Chuck (and Di) threw the Yorks under the bus to distract from their own marital problems. I also think they threw the Wessex’s under it as well.

        Throwing a close family member to the wolves is something William learned from his parents – both were guilty of it.

      • Wadsworth the Butler says:

        Charles did during the Mark Boland years. Boland fed the press stories about Charles’ sons and siblings to improve his image. Camilla has also leaked to the media for years, including the story about William’s first meeting with Camilla. This probably did more damage to Charles’ relationship with William than the divorce. It’s become conventional wisdom that Diana “poisoned” William against Charles, but that’s an oversimplification.

    • sushi says:

      I would say the whole British Royals are manipulative jerks. Diana was fighting for survival.

      • duchess of hazard says:

        @Sushi, for real. Hopefully we in the UK can get rid of them soon. Because this is a lot of money to waste just because you hate one woman. We (the country) cannot afford the pettiness.

      • StarGreek says:

        @duchess of hazard

        ITAWY.
        The sooner they go the better it is for us UK residents.

  8. Esme says:

    Honestly, were it not for the inexcusable racism, the war of the Duke Brothers here would be extremely entertaining: moves, countermoves, one-upmanship, villainy, and subterfuge! It’s a soap opera!

  9. MachineElf says:

    Kudos to the Scotsman for blowing this wide open.

    • NLopez says:

      +1000

    • Nic919 says:

      Real journalism and not the usual RRs being court transcribers. It’s funny how Rebecca English tried to spin this to make the Cambridges look good based on no evidence whatsoever. The Scotsman article has a neutral tone and actual information. It does not contain spin or innuendo.

      • Moose says:

        Agreed! Shows up all of the tabloid writers and their lack of journalistic skills.. Isn;t RE claiming she “broke” this story though?

    • E says:

      Agreed, this is what proper journalism should be.

      The whole family at this point show that there’s no place for them in a modern, equitable society.

  10. Loretta says:

    LMAOOO karma is real

  11. Kittycat says:

    William is a complete idiot.

    Setting up this budget airline story just to win pr points against his brother is pathetic and criminal. Sussexroyal had to take down a post because of all the death threats Meghan received.

    Him and Kate better announce their fourth baby since that’s the only thing they do right.

  12. Vivienne says:

    William and Kate are dumb and dumber LOL

  13. Margareth says:

    “Oh, well, Work-Shy Will. You actually tried to do a thing and it came back to bite you on the royal arse. Well played, karma”

    I can’t stop laughing

  14. Digital Unicorn says:

    Well, I guess me trying to give the Cambridges the benefit of the doubt didn’t work out as I hadn’t realised Flybe actually spoke them to confirm things.

    Well played karma (in the form of the Scotsman), well played. The press needs to call them out more often, karma is giving the Cambridges a taste of the medicine they have been dishing to the Sussex’s for months.

    PS I love the main page thumbnail of William, it shows him for what he is – a boorish, stupid twat.

    The royal PR genius got played.

    • Taneesha says:

      @DU, that’s what I said yesterday when you were giving them the benefit. Everything was hushed out and agreed upon by both parties. There’s no way the airline would pull this kind of prank on “unsuspecting” Cambridges and KP, no way. The fact that KP and the Cambridges fed their RR and media this bogus story, and left it out there for the masses to believe a deception is the most infuriating of all. They were aware that TWO empty flights was gonna go both ways, just to complete their publicity stunt. They knew that their flight DID NOT cost only £73 per head, they knew that they were being deceptive putting the “frugal Billy flies budget” story out there and they okay-ed it to be published to go with the pictures. The Cambridges are responsible and should be held accountable because they had many opportunities to say listen, we might have flown this airline bit it’s not actually what people think,but they didn’t. Because they never anticipated the Scotsman exposing their lies. All of them are liars, the Cambridges, the RR, the British media, KP, they’re all liars and were happy to pull this deception just to burry Harry and his wife because they don’t approve of their union. They all are just plain evil.

      • bamaborn says:

        Well, at least the queen, Kate and Wills were all smiles riding to church as if nothing had happened. Gross people!

      • blue36 says:

        @bamaborn – what do you expect from a woman who’s protecting her pedophile son? Seriously do these people even have any morals? I wonder how the girl who was abused by her pedo son felt when she saw those photos of her smiling ear to ear in that car? If she’s so sure of his innocence does she have the guts to face the victim face to face, does she have the guts to send Andrew to the US to confront his accusers in court if he’s sooo innocent? Basically this entire month told us that not only is the queen okay with supporting pedophiles but she’s also okay with racism.

    • Olenna says:

      That thumbnail, LOL! “And I oop!” I imagine Poor Jason had the same reaction when the Scotsman broke this story. Ha!

  15. Guest says:

    Lol. This is hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is places like royaldish defending William and Kate. Their hatred for Meghan and now harry have made them defend the mediocre cambridges. 🤣

    • Vava says:

      I haven’t been in Royal Dish for awhile. That place seems pretty toxic, mostly because the moderator, Maria, is such a witch.

    • Nic919 says:

      I admit to checking in today after they were originally praising the Cambridges for scoring a PR win against the Sussexes. Many look like fools now.

  16. Rapunzel says:

    It’s possible that the tixs were booked well in advance and flybe was simply notified on Wed., leading to this scramble to get a plane. It’s possible that flybe did this on it’s own without the Cambridges’ knowledge. But flybe did not arrange for the pap stroll. If anything, flybe was probably told in no uncertain terms that there would be pics for sure, which would be great PR, so could their royal highnesses get a discount/freebie?

    Also: where’s this benefit of the doubt for Meg? I can’t white figure out why the media is nicer to the Cambridges.

    • Kittycat says:

      Sorry dear but read the story again.

      You cant book something in advance and then say you were notified later. It’s not logical.

      And it’s not like William and Kate are using fake names.

      Just accept that the Cambridges need to plan a smear attack with better people and hope they get it right the next time.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Kittycat- I am not supporting the Cambridges. I think you jumped to conclusions here.

        “You cant book something in advance and then say you were notified later.” – no, but it’s possible it was booked as a royal VIP without anyone knowing specifically who till last minute. Possible does not mean likely. Almost anything is possible.

        But that wasn’t even my point. My point was that it doesn’t matter if booking was in advance and if flybe did the plane thing on their own (both unlikely though still possible). What matters is that the app stroll is clearly the Cambridges. Any other wrong stems from that.

        “Just accept that the Cambridges need to plan a smear attack with better people and hope they get it right the next time.”- lol…. i have never once thought the Cams were good at smears. William is a dolt. The Rose who? debacle cemented that for me. Ergo, I doubt they’ll ever get it right. Which means fun gossip for us.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        @Rapunzel, your Freudian typo is rather telling: “…I can’t white figure out why…”

      • Some chick says:

        @TheOG methinks it might have even been purposeful!?

    • Nic919 says:

      The decision to switch the plane was made not long after the tickets were booked. KP would have called in directly and so the airline knew a VIP situation was happening. The Scotsman reports it as such and there would be no logical reason for the airline to just sit on this information for months to then suddenly move planes last minute. The reason they moved the planes last minute was done because they only found out last minute.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Nic- sure seems that way. But my point was even if… the Cambridges clearly pulled a PR pap stroll and anything the airline might have done on it’s own would have been a result of that.

        I was just saying flybe must have clearly known pics were coming. I’m sorry if that point got burried.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        @Rapunzel – I agree that Flybe knew a PR pap stroll was coming, as I said upthread I think William pulled a ‘Hollywood’ PR stunt – free flights for free PR. Am waiting for the press to blame Meghan for that and how her HW ways have infected the RF.

    • Dot says:

      I thought the same thing. For security reasons, if the flight was booked months ahead, I would think it’s quite likely it was booked under a different name – and that the airline was then updated as to the actual passengers shortly before the flight.

      • Nic919 says:

        You can’t book flights under fake names especially not since 9/11. You are required to have a ticket in your legal name. Besides KP called to make arrangements so they know who was flying. This wasn’t done online.

        They knew who was going on that plane and only found out on Wednesday when the tickets were actually booked.

    • Lexa says:

      Yeah, everyone is taking this as confirmation they were booked on Wednesday, but I only read it as the employee saying they were notified the Cambridges would be passengers on Wednesday. I don’t know what the travel security measures are like for Royals/government VIPs, but it wouldn’t surprise me if a staffer books them under false or blank names that then get updated 24 hours before when the airports are also notified to prepare for them. (I say this because I believe 24 hours notice is what other airports like LAX require if a VIP wants to use their special services.) It seems like a security/anti-leaking thing?

      ETA Nic919, you really don’t think that there are exceptions to that made for people like the British Royal Family, Prime Minister, US First Family, etc? My guess is that they get some sort of security code to use when they make their reservation that confirms their identities but signals to the computer systems to mask their names, or they get to call a special VIP line to make the reservations and the seats are held for them and officially booked 24 hours before or less.

      • Nic919 says:

        The US president never flies anything but Air Force One while in office. After that secret service makes arrangements so they can’t keep their identities secret. Same with BP, KP or Clarence House. The airlines know a VIP is coming and make arrangements well in advance for security reasons. There is no way a blank ticket was ordered months in advance from KP and then the airline did nothing until they knew specifically who was on the plane. They would have been getting details about how many and which passengers right away.

        The Scotsman article is clear and legitimate and not from a tabloid reporter who has an agenda. I don’t know why it’s so hard to believe that KP booked a flight last minute on Wednesday and the airline switched up the plane when the arrangements were made.

      • Lexa says:

        I should have clarified that I meant more like Eric/Don Jr/Ivanka traveling for non-official government/vacations vs the president himself, who would obviously take government transportation like Air Force One. Though I’m sure the Trumps take their fair share of private jets.

        I suppose the hang ups I have about them having the freedom to book a last minute flight has to do with the type of advance work security teams do for principals during travel and the amount of seats they needed to book on a fairly small flight, right at the front of the plane. I’m sure the airlines would have moved other passengers to make room for the Cambridges in those seats, but I find it weird we didn’t hear anyone complain about it.

        I do get why people are side eyeing the crap out of this and why they think it’s a set up, though. FWIW, I’m part of the camp that thinks the younger royals are being thrown to the front page wolves with manufactured drama by the BP courtiers to try to keep Andrew’s presence on them to a minimum. Meghan and Harry are absolutely getting the shortest end of that stick, and I have to wonder if *part* of why they use the younger royals this way, especially Diana’s sons, is because they believe the public will remain sympathetic to them no matter what.

      • StarGreek says:

        @Lexa

        I don’t know why most people go for complicated explanations. Because of security reasons, for a royal is a lot better to fly on private jets. The hassle for airline and other passengers, plus the extra costs for security and other arrangements makes the whole thing only a charade for publicity.

        I would abolish the monarchy if I could, so I even avoid their threads but in this case I had to intervene: this time the Sussexes polluted less and costed less to the UK taxpayers than the Cambridges.

  17. Talie says:

    This always happens with him. He engages in clownery and the clown comes back to bite. Just like when he danced like a fool in the alps while his family worked.

    • Lori says:

      I appreciate your use of the Mo’nique-quote and wish I could upvote you for it.

      As much as people look up to them because of their royal blood I think they’re nothing more than those family members everyone has who are lowlife trash and continually cause messy situations because they like drama. William has the option of working hard and earning real points but that’s apparently too difficult for him. He has to score easy points with these kinds of idiotic stunts only to have it blow up in his face.

  18. Ariel says:

    Maybe I missed it, but the daily mail has yet to cover this story.
    Quite telling of their bias.
    All I see on the DM page this morning is a pic of Kate and the Queen ok their way to church.
    And yet another hit piece from a “royal biographer” on how Harry and Megan are “confused” and will have to “choose” between the celebrity world and the royal world.
    Nothing to see here….

    • Rapunzel says:

      There’s a story titled “Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are ‘increasingly confused’ and must choose between the ‘celebrity world or the royal one’, a royal biographer claims”

      We see you, you racist a-holes.

      Edit: I see you went back and added this.
       

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        There is also a story about how the Sussex’s have hired a former diplomat as a private sec to ‘save’ their reputation. More like to deal with the viper’s nest in BP and KP.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        @digital. Reminds me of the book I studied for A level French called me noeud de viperes (the nest of vipers) by mauriac.

      • Maria says:

        @Royal blue, I loved that book and the others in the series Therese Desqueyroux and Fin de la Nuit.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      The Cambridges are getting their ‘The Queen supports them during this time of bad PR’ pap stroll that Andrew got last week. William was in the front seat smirking smugly just like Andrew was last week.

      Kate bad eye makeup is back – she keeps putting too much mascara on the bottom lashes which makes it look like the mascara has run. It looks clumpy, she needs to gently move the brush side to side when applying to separate the lashes and even the spread of the product.

      • blue36 says:

        Them smirking and smiling broadly after using this PR tactic to bully Harry and Meghan really makes me despise them. I never thought it was possible to have the level of disgust I have right now. The racist attacks and constant abuse has to stop, it makes me sick to my stomach that William and Kate are contributing to this. I never thought they were capable of this level of vitriol, I wouldn’t be surprised if their staff is running some of those hate group accounts on twitter and instagram. It’s suspicious that after the Rose story came out immediately another came out after where palace staff at KP call her Me-Gain – the same nickname that the hate group people call her.

    • Tourmaline says:

      The DM definitely covered this story but it came out early Saturday in the UK so is not at the top of their page anymore.

      It was presented as an exclusive by their royal reporter Rebecca English although the Scotsman newspaper seems to have broke the story.

  19. RoyalBlue says:

    I have said it before and will repeat it. This is all part of a plan to ensure the status quo of the monarchy is upheld. No one must be or appear to be more popular than the future king and queen consort. The pacific tour really scared the men in grey and they needed to put plan b in action. The aim is to discredit the Sussexes, which will affect their reputation and fundraising work and have them written in history in a negative light. Now they are trying to temper their celebrity when they do their next tour. How do they do that is any body’s guess.

    I really want their Instagram followers to surpass the Cambridges when they hit the South African tour.

    • Talie says:

      And you know Meg and Harry will get a big reception in South Africa too…so more nastiness will kick up when they get back, I’m sure.

      • Kittycat says:

        The South Africa tour will start a wave of negative stories because it will be so successful.

        I can see the headlines:

        Meghan ditches Britain for South Africa.

        Meghan breaks protocol by breathing air.

        Archie causes uproar for sticking out tongue.

      • Rogue says:

        Given this weeks rehash of the offensive “ship them to Africa” mess I’m guessing we’ll get quotes/headlines like “Meghan in her element”, “Meghan feels at home..at last”

    • Bookworm says:

      I hope we get to see more of Archie on that trip. I’ll bet he’s just getting cuter every day. I know they want him to be private but hey, throw us a few crumbs :) while they’re on that work trip.

    • PrincessK says:

      You are spot on Royal Blue…the huge success of the Oceania trip really got the Palace enforcers out. Right from the moment Meghan moved to the UK people said that H & M would outshine the Cambridges . W&K are off to Pakistan before H&M go to South Africa, the comparisons should be interesting. I read that most countries have a preference for an H& M visit. Morocco specifically asked for them.

  20. Brunswickstoval says:

    Cannot wait for the day the whole BRF disappear from view. They are almost entirely all without merit.

    • duchess of hazard says:

      @Brunswickstoval – honestly. If Meghan’s marriage to Harry means that she brings down the BRF because they just can’t deal, she’d have done the country a service.

  21. Basi says:

    Of course this is nowhere to be seen on the Daily Fail.
    I agree with commenters above that this really blew the lid off of the whole story. We get to see the true nature of William and Kate. Or at least William.

  22. Beli says:

    FlyBe scrambled to get a jet down so that their logo would be shown, but how did they know that photos would be in the papers?

    Also there have been so many Cambridge fans saying that the family travel commercially and with this airline to Balmoral every year. Why the last minute booking then? How were they planning to get there before?

    This is so ridiculous and they have completely shown their backsides. The writer for the Scotsman must have called KP for comment, which sent them into a panic to call Rebecca English to scramble to get an article out in the Daily Fail about how the innocent Cambridges had no idea (which would be a security nightmare).

    Transparent.

    • Nic919 says:

      This was basically revealed when you read through the twitter interaction between Alistair Dalton, the writer of the scotsman article and Rebecca English. He thought he had the exclusive on this story.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        He likely did as the travel industry is his beat, English is a hack who was spoon fed the story from the KP press team.

        English has previous for taking others scoops and spinning it like she had the exclusive with quotes from palace sources. KP use her as their mouth piece when they need to.

      • Lexa says:

        Yeah but he ALSO said he didn’t call KP for comment: https://twitter.com/alastairdalton/status/1165181145442639873?s=21

        Obviously it’s possible the airline called KP to tip them off/apologize ahead of time for the embarrassing story and they tapped RE to write this, but it also seems possible the same source who contacted the original reporter also contacted/sold the story to the DM.

      • Nic919 says:

        Exactly. So RE was asked by KP to spin the story making her article not very credible at all.
        Alistair Dalton didn’t need to speak to KP when the airline gave him all the information he needed about the plane. He doesn’t say that William demanded a new plane in the article anyway but the airline decided to switch planes after first. learning about their VIP passengers on Wednesday.

  23. Aurora says:

    Does anyone still doubt the Cambridges are behind the Meghan smear campaign? It has been non-stop all through her pregnancy and maternity leave.

    Every time Meghan launches a positive initiative a flood of negative articles follows. In this case the Vogue issue combined with the Smartworks clothing announcement seems to have to the latest onslaught.

    • Mego says:

      I have noticed that when a big scandal is breaking the abuse of the Sussexes jumps into overdrive. In the Fall it was William’s affair and now it’s Andrew/Epstien – the worst scandal to ever hit the RF imo. I anticipated the Sussex’s would get thrown under the bus. This time over flying a private jet 🙄 If they didn’t have that they would just make shit up like Meghan trantruming over tiaras and making white women cry.

    • ADS says:

      I always believed that the Sussex’s were being unfairly treated by the tabloid press for their own racist reasons but I did not believe Wills and Kate were the driving force behind it. Call me naive but this has really surprised me. I mean I accept it now – it is just so obvious.

  24. Lulu says:

    Well, it might not have been a perfect PR pull off, but the message was sent anyway. I know everyone here is crowing about how William’s revealed himself as a petty mess, but from my experience here in the UK, people fully see this as a point for the Cambridges. Either he deliberately set out to prove a point against Harry, or it was simply that he was smart enough to see that any royal in a private jet again wouldn’t come off well so soon after the Sussex pics. Either way, people see it as proving that royals are capable of getting on commercial without compromising their safety, and that puts the Sussex multiple-jet jaunt in a very unflattering light. I think it made it worse to have the celebrities leap in to defend them – when I’ve heard people discussing it, it’s generally held that it came across as those celebrities having this “one rule for thee, another for me” mindset when it comes to changing lifestyles for the environment. The idea that Elton John can simply ‘offset’ the massive footprint of a jet by paying a charity makes it look like the rich haven’t actually taken the idea of changing their damaging lifestyles at all – they simply have to pay a little more and all is forgiven, while the little people make the sacrifices.

    Like, I don’t think this news about the jets will have worsened things for the Cambridges at all when it was clearly the airline being greedy. And people don’t see it as William sticking a dagger into Harry – William didn’t make Harry take multiple private jets so soon after the disastrous optics of the Google camp. If the photos of the Cambridges are meant as a rebuttal, then the general view of people both everyday and in the media seems to be ‘good – they feel the same as everyone else does about this whole mess’. I imagine the House of Windsor – or Charles’s line at least – is going to be very careful about transportation choices in the near future.

    • Kittycat says:

      The Cambridges are the future king and queen Consort of Britain.

      I’m glad people in Britain are supporting their pr plans against the Sussexes.

      I’m glad people in Britain want a couple so focused on pr that they dont work or contribute to the world.

      The Cambridges can enjoy that kind of support till the end if time.

      I am really looking forward to the Cambridges tour in Pakistan so see how they are received their. I am really looking forward to their take on the royal foundation. I am really looking forward to the pr work they will do in order to maintain their reputation.

      • Nic919 says:

        PR instead of actual work will totally justify the existence of the monarchy into the future. I’m sure once Brexit dramatically affects the middle and working classes they will be super thrilled to see what new spin bill and Cathy can put on a garden or a sailing contest.

      • Joja says:

        The world is watching especially the commonwealth

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        The Pakistan visit will be very interesting esp with what is happening in Kashmir. As 2 senior royals they need to prove they can handle difficult situations like this and well, I wonder how much Katie Keen is spending on her brand new, designer bespoke wardrobe for this tour and I wonder if she will flash a war memorial like she did in India. I wonder if we’ll get another ‘how interesting’ when being told about how children are deliberately being maimed to get more money from begging or how toddlers are being kidnapped and gang raped or how street children are forced into prostitution just to eat.

        Also, will William read his briefing notes for this tour?

      • Nic919 says:

        Pakistan is dealing with serious issues, including Kashmir and they are sending the two most shallow and uninformed royals to visit. Kate could not even interact with Indian street kids without coming off as a dense ding dong so how are they going to address serious adult and complex political issues?

      • blue36 says:

        I doubt they are going to touch on anything politically related in Pakistan right now, talking about Kashmir or anything related to it would be 100% off the table. Also because a lot of the animosty between India and Pakistan is a legacy of British colonialism during the British Raj. Though, from what I’ve seen online, it seems the Pakistanis are excited about the visit? So it might be good for them if it goes well. How long is the Pakistan tour going to be? Does anyone know?

      • Jaded says:

        The Pakistan tour may well be cancelled as tensions escalate. The last time the Queen was there in 1997 is regarded as a bit of a disaster. Because of the delicacy of the ongoing negotiations what is there for them to talk to when the situation is fast escalating into war? Maybe Kate will share her chutney recipe and Bill will put his foot wrong somehow.

      • PrincessK says:

        Kate will definitely wear an array of Pakistani inspired flowing outfits, and glowing comparisons will be made with Diana and her outfits on visits to Pakistan.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Lulu- This is only a point for the Cambridges in the minds of the uninformed. Those with a memory know that Wills is far more “one rule for me, another for thee”

    • Bella DuPont says:

      @ Lulu

      Anyone with more than a few brain cells rattling around can see this for the cheap shot that it was. Anyone who pretends it’s anything but is being patently dishonest. As I believe your comment is.

    • Olenna says:

      @Lulu, you said all that to avoid saying the obvious: The Cambridges and their PR team look conniving and stupid. Let them take their well-deserved “L” on this one. Defending their shenanigans is not a good look on intelligent people.

    • Silvi says:

      @Lulu Very well said! But I don’t believe they will change their lifestyle. They just know now, they have to find more ways to cover up or find better excuses. Many People are questioning the RF for years. After the Queen is gone, the entire RF need to find also good argumentation for representing the UK on that lavish Lifestyle.

    • StarGreek says:

      Yes the Daily Mail supporting crowd swallowed this story like the truth serum.

      I hope you don’t believe that us in UK are all a bunch of dumbos who cannot see through the Cambridges PR BS.

      • ADS says:

        “I hope you don’t believe that us in UK are all a bunch of dumbos who cannot see through the Cambridges PR BS.”

        Indeed. Fellow Brit here. And as I said above, I was reluctant for a long time to believe that the Cambridges were backstabbing the Sussexes, but this is too obvious.

    • Elisa says:

      I guess Andrew will be the next BRF member to fly back from Spain on a private plane. I hope they crucify him in the media!

    • bittenbug says:

      You can just say, W&K are white so white Brits give them the benefit of the doubt. It’s shorter and much more accurate.

  25. Mak says:

    This is so good !!!! Karma is a lovely thing

  26. Who ARE these people? says:

    Does this mean the regular Flybe planes don’t meet a certain standard?

    • Ali says:

      “Wholly compliant with associated regulations. “

      Regular passengers get planes semi-compliant with regulations.

      • Nic919 says:

        I think it’s basically that they make sure the planes used by royals are meeting regulations whereas for the rest of us we just need to hope the airlines are doing their job.

  27. My3cents says:

    I’m actually happy this whole mess happened and everyone got exposed for exactly who they are.
    Hope somewhere H&M are sitting happily sipping their afternoon tea.

  28. Sunnee says:

    Karma was quick this time. Normally the truth about royals’ underhanded shenanigans comes out weeks if not months later. This time Wills got caught with his pants down, showing his petty little ass. We always knew the Cambridges were behind the RR attacks, this confirms that they are the source and the RRs are the mouthpiece. No one should ever again doubt that W and K are the petty, lazy, racist little muthabrufas that we said they were. It.👏 Is.👏.All.👏.Deliberate.👏. And. 👏. Racist.👏. I think of all the attacks on newly married and pregnant Meg. It must really hurt Harry to realize What a piece of Sh!t his brother is. Like I wrote a few days ago, this is very much like Kings and Queens of yesteryear jailing their siblings in the Tower of London because of a perceived threat to the throne.
    SMH. You’re just not that well liked Will. Let it go, man.

    • ME says:

      I am sure William and Harry have had issues for a long time. I can’t imagine how many times Will probably threw the old “well I’m going to be King and you’re not” in Harry’s face lol. Will seems so immature and Kate just seems jealous people like Meghan more.

      • Sally says:

        Of course miss kate is jealous. Meghan is everything that kate wants to be. Love me some Harry!! Team H and M all the way!!!

      • notasugarhere says:

        I don’t think Kate’s jealous of Meghan’s work ethic, because Kate doesn’t care about work. She doesn’t want to be a smart, hard-working woman who wants to do good in the world. Jealous of the PR Meghan gets for her work sure, but Kate wants the good PR without doing any work.

        Kate may be jealous Meghan has an openly-devoted, loving husband. One who married her as quickly as possible instead of dragging his feet for a decade.

    • bamaborn says:

      Sunnee…been saying for a week now I wished karma would step in and deal with these gross people. Was thinking more Andrew and his mum, but this will do too.

  29. Leyton says:

    From the looks of it, The Airline learned about them being on board the night before and that’s why they flew the planes there to get the maximum exposure.

    It’s funny how some claimed this was booked “Months in advance”. Seems like a last minute decision to get some good press during a lashing towards Harry and Meghan but it end up failing because everyone figured it out and they probably weren’t as environmental friendly as they thought.

  30. LadyAnne says:

    Well, that backfired quickly.

  31. TheOriginalMia says:

    PR genius got played. He couldn’t let things go. He just had to add more salt to the wound. And what happened? The clownery came back and smacked him and his hypocritical house in the ass. Hahahahahaha!

  32. Myra says:

    Here’s what I’m getting. TQ or BP is more concerned about the harm that the Andrew story can do to the RF so they are allowing the Cambridge’s vs Sussex’s battle, war, dispute fully out into the public. So at this point it’s a shit show that has gone amuck! Unfortunately TQ is front and center being used as a willingly pawn in this Royal Game of Chess. Meanwhile, their new PM is kissing DT ares. It’s sad times for the Brit…we Americans welcome you to a living hell

  33. Natters5 says:

    Crickets from “The Daily Mail” on this of course.

    • Sierra says:

      Actually they did mention this Friday or Thursday.

      As usual, the top comments are excusing the heir and his wife.

      • entine says:

        but … but… they didn’t know! …It wasn’t up to them! … It was a passenger who shot the video! hahaha I looooved the reaction LOL memes to this budget (literally) fiasco.

  34. kerwood says:

    The Duchess of Sussex can teach Normal Bill an old African-American saying: God don’t like ugly.

  35. Mtec says:

    Woww this just speaks volumes to their pettiness, vindictiveness, and narcissism. I was always into the Sussexes, but I always tried to reserve judgment on the Cambridges— but that’s no more. This shows they will literally throw their family members under the bus (and unprovoked at that) to make themselves look good. I don’t care how many cute offspring they produce, these two are horrible, nasty people.

    • Alexandria says:

      It’s becoming clear why the Sussexes requested for a separate office and hiring their own people.

      • Mtec says:

        Totally! Harry and Meghan actually want to work and make a difference, not just milk having put a name on a garden project (she “helped” design it my ass) and do shady PR moves like this.

  36. CindyP says:

    This is your future King UK friends…his PR team are a bunch of idiots

  37. Wadsworth the Butler says:

    One reason the Cambridges’ PR team is so poor is because it is oblivious to the strategic needs of the entities with whom it is partnering, from charities to corporations. They needed last-minute accommodation from the airline to pull of this stunt, but didn’t deliver their end of the bargain (positive PR for the airline), so the airline exposed them. Land Rover doesn’t give the family SUVs at a discounted rate because of patriotism: they want their product front-and-center every single time the family is photographed arriving or leaving an event. The airline is no different. It would have been ridiculously easy to have the photographer get photos of the logo. This is just second-rate work.

    • Lowrider says:

      Right!

      ” Land Rover doesn’t give the family SUVs at a discounted rate because of patriotism: they want their product front-and-center every single time the family is photographed arriving or leaving an event. ”

      The BRF does merchandise.

  38. OriginalLala says:

    Wow,I mean we all suspected this, nice to see it confirmed. This family is increasingly vile

  39. Syed says:

    Has anyone else noticed that when one of the Royals is in trouble we get the “ride to church” photo OP with the Queen. Example: Phillip after the car wreck, Andrew after Epstein now William/Kate after their PR stunt.

    • bamaborn says:

      Syed…yeah, she’s the head of the church of England, so they go there taking alms I guess. The plebs eat it up and disaster avoided till the next time.

  40. L4frimaire says:

    The thing is the press absolutely will not let this go and their grudge with the Sussex’s is obvious. They can’t use carbon footprint hypocrisy anymore because we know Will and Kate will go back to flying private jets, and this flight stunt was never about the environment. Now they’re back on the cost of their Ibiza trip which they know nothing about, and they’re over inflating the costs and trying to make the 27K Mustique villa out to be a bargain. It’s actually pathetic that William is so lazy and jealous that he turns on his brother, rather than just stepping up to what is his duty with a bit of heart and work- ethic. As a couple Harry and Meghan are naturally charismatic and have great chemistry and connect with people. Some people really don’t like that but it is what it is.

  41. HK9 says:

    They tried it with the Sussexes and lost. The larger issue is-will they learn their lesson or keep letting my girl Karma read them for filth? They need to know when you try to play others you’re only playing yourself.

  42. Betsy says:

    I can’t believe how petty will is. I mean what a tool. Although I think it rises to pathological hatred of his brother at this point, so perhaps “petty” isn’t the word.

    • Andrew says:

      The company made the choice to change aircrafts. Do you hold that against Kate and Will?

      • StarGreek says:

        The airline had to make a decision following security arrangements.

        If they were flying by private jet, or better they could take a train, the problem wouldn’t have existed.

        This is a PR charade gone wrong and yes they are to blame. But not just the Cambridges, the whole BRF.

        Hopefully here in UK we will do away with them soon.

  43. aquarius64 says:

    Thanks to the Andrew mess the BRF is taking a hit. They’re dragging the Sussexes but the one thing the legit press is not saying H & M are bringing down the monarchy. The Cambridges made deals with RR s and the press to minimize bad stories and pimp out their kids to get good press. I think that is part of the reason of the press hate – Harry and Meghan will not prostitute Archie for a favorable headline when things get rough. The church ride along and the pap pics at Balmoral to me tells me Will and Kate know they are getting dragged on social media for plane gate. Muzzling the UK press will only get you so far.

    • Andrew says:

      Likely this whole flight mess is an organised pr spectacle in order to drag away attention from Andrew and his late pedophile/pederast friend and their shenanigans.

  44. Lisa says:

    Well that fell apart quickly. Lol.

  45. Andrew says:

    This was a choice made by the Aircraft company and not by Will and Kate. You can’t hold it against them. Dumb company makes a dumb move.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      It’s all on the Cambridges. They requested the plane and this is the carbon footprint it took so do just that. There is no budget plane sitting on the tarmac waiting to hold the entire royal entourage at the last minute.

    • Mary says:

      Sure. Company made the decision and Elton John assured the Sussexes that the carbon footprint of their trip would be offset. Thus, rightly or wrongly, each couple believed their trips would have a minimal environmental impact. Yet, only Meghan and Harry get dragged for it. Does being white give you bigger offset credits?

      • blue36 says:

        I don’t think the Cambridges were going for the environmental aspect here, but trying to make a point that they take cheap inexpensive flights like all the other normal people, that they are nothing like the Sussexes at all

    • Olenna says:

      “Andrew”…well, speak of the devil.

  46. Tw says:

    Is it protocol for the FUTURE KING and his family (with 3 small children) to book last minute flights? I imagine that stuff is ironed out months in advance unless an opportunity to throw a black Duchess under the bus suddenly springs up.

  47. Lola says:

    I’ll be unpopular here I imagine, but I work for a company where we regularly fly people on private jets. I understand the whole Harry and Meghan are friends of the earth thing, and that this might be a stunt. Someone else posted at some point that it’s protecting regular plebeians like ourselves. I get that people don’t want their tax payer money going towards private jets, but really, what do people want? It’s all just BS and there are bigger things to worry about in the world. My 2 cents!

  48. Lily says:

    I’m so glad Won’t and Can’t got called out for this!

  49. A says:

    The MOST charitable examination of this situation would be thus: Will & Kate had a private jet set to go, then watched the Sussexes get dragged for the private jet thing, decided to learn a lesson from their experiences, and made the switch. The intentions here would be entirely pure and benign, a wise decision made on the part of people who genuinely at least want to give the impression that they care about the environment.

    The reality, of course, is probably not that. We have a history with Will where he’s been incredibly petty and self-serving, and I would not be surprised if he saw this as an attempt to be smarmy and put his money where his mouth is. Especially after Harry said that thing about not having more than two children. All of this is just a depressing mess, my god.

    • Vv says:

      There’s no way they would have arrived with a private jet,with or without the Sussexes’ situation. Now they’re much more aware of the optics. For the people asking why the airline was looking forward to publicity,Andrew and Fergie were papped last week,and the press has been hyping the younger royals’ trips to Balmoral for the whole summer. Again,there’s no way they would have risked of being seen (pics or not) flying private. And they actually don’t fly private for these trips. It’s why in the grand scheme of things,if they booked the flight at the last minute,two weeks ago or two months ago doesn’t really matter. And if they had private planes plans,I doubt they would have waited to book a flight at the last minute (IF it’s what happened). Looking at the Sussexes’ press situation,they had at least three weeks to change plans,lol.
      I’m more curious to know which other company they could have chosen to fly commercial from Norwich,if we want to argue about them choosing a budget company.
      Also,I don’t understand why they should have known about the substitution? Even with a whole staged stunt they had nothing to gain if the logo was Loganair or Flybe,lol.
      It actually happens all the time that planes fly empty to get aircraft to scheduled flights. In this case the company wanted a specific plane for publicity reason.
      As for the video,it really looks like it was taken with a phone from inside a plane,when they were disembarking (by a passenger or maybe by an employee,which would made sense).
      It’s more likely that the management team saw it as a good free advertising opportunity for the reasons stated above,and not that the Cambs plotted a stunt with a company. We would have also seen different pics.
      Like,they hoped to have pics on the stairs (with the logo on display) like the ones of Andrew when he arrived at Aberdeen. They knew what they were doing.
      Flybe also said that it wasn’t their decision but Eastern’s,so as Lexa says,it’s possible that the tickets were booked in advance but they were briefed the day before,and it was indeeed a last minute decision taken by the Eastern Airways’ team.
      Did they “approve” for the video being published? That’s another matter.
      I don’t doubt they would have taken advantage of the opportunity,but at the same time they have been much more relaxed with these kind of things for awhile. They know they need a good relationship with the press and whenever they throw tantrums,the press retaliates. I think we’ll see pics with their kids more often in the future.

  50. S808 says:

    Kind of amazed at how quickly this PR stunt fell apart lol.

  51. Reece says:

    *reads the headline* OHHHHH REALLY???!!! Is that so? Well. Then. 🧐🤨🧐

  52. VS says:

    @KaiserCB — I don’t know if you would see but….

    How would you feel if you were Harry and your brother do something like this to you? Somehow, I think Meghan is fine with all of this; the woman just appears to be so strong; Harry seems to be the emotional one. Does he feel betrayed? how do you sit or even smile with the brother you have known your whole life after a stunt like this?

    It was a bad PR stunt but I wonder how Will & Harry will recover from this? or maybe we are all wrong and it is William’s courtiers who are responsible for this mess.

    As far as Kate is concerned, why didn’t she say a word? does she even have any influence over William? I can’t imagine Harry trying to pull a stunt like that and Meghan letting him just do it

  53. Rogue says:

    As I said in another post couldn’t blame Cambridges looking at privatejet gate and changing travel plans if their original plans were similar. I’m sure some royals will travel more low key until the fuss dies down. I also don’t blame Flybe for a little bit of ambush marketing if that’s how it went down.

    @Scandi It’s a shame fake news spreads. It was Edward Enninful who was quoted as saying Meghan declined to be on the cover as it would be “boastful” and the logic to that is if Meghan was guest editing an issue celebrating forces for change and put herself on the cover she’d have been called narcissistic and slammed for being political (saying she’s bringing change) – which ironically she still was without being on cover. Plus Anne, Diana have also been on the cover of Vogue- yet nobody said that quote was a dig at Anne or her late mother in law. Why? As it’s ridiculous but just press spin to bring up Kate v Meghan as people love cat fights.

    Harry didn’t say more than 2 kids is bad for the environment or he wanted 2 kids to save the environment. Harry’s only quote on having children in Vogue was “2 maximum”. I don’t know why he was putting his business out there but he talked about how he wanted 2 kids at an engagement months ago and it wasn’t seen as a dig at William before so why the fuss when Vogue came out? In fact Ive often read William wanted 2 kids and some commentators said he had to persuaded on a third child so maybe William& Harry had liked their dynamic of 2 siblings growing up.

    The fact this 2 kids thing became a furore after Vogue was because press lied about what Harry said and wanted to start latest round of primarily Meghan bashing- plus start feud stuff again.

  54. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    Obvious PR stunt was obvious from the start.

  55. paranormalgirl says:

    Wills really IS a little asshole, isn’t he?

  56. MrsBanjo says:

    Correction: the racist British tabloid media hates the Sussexes.

  57. Rogue says:

    @He he in reality not correct that Sussexes arent liked. Harry & Meghan get great receptions in the UK whether together or individually on engagements. 2 projects Meghan has worked on have sold really well in the UK- Together cookbook and Vogue. Harry was named 2nd most popular royal in recent YouGov poll after the Queen and given negative press& she’s a newcomer to the family, Meghan was voted 6th most popular. Both Harry and Meghan were ahead of future king Charles so if they aren’t liked, then he must be really disliked and that streamlining of the BRF you mentioned could come down to zero royals.

    Re Flybe gate saw Oz paper had headline that William had leant into feud rumours in the best way which is interesting take.

  58. Olenna says:

    @He he,
    Your comment that “Meghan and Harry will be cast off to Africa” is complete nonsense. But, it’s obvious these “British” you speak of are OK with Pedo Andy assuming Harry’s role as a senior royal and sticking around to help Chuck ‘rule’ the Kingdom. SMH.

  59. VS says:

    Didn’t you say you were leaving? you’re still here?
    The logic of a hater: they hate you but can’t live without talking about you. M&H live rent free in your life