Joe Biden’s people think the real problem is that the reporters are too young

Joe Biden Campaigns in Iowa

As I will continue to say, I’ve largely tapped out of covering the “horse race” part of the Democratic primaries. Maybe I’ll ramp up our coverage closer to the Iowa and New Hampshire caucus/primary, or maybe I will continue to put my head in the sand and ignore everything and just vote for Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren when it comes time for my state’s primary. By now, I hope it’s clear that I am very much against Joe Biden’s candidacy. Biden is out-of-touch, he has a problematic history on race and women’s issues and at 76 years old, he’s just too f–king old to be president. Call me an ageist, I don’t care. There are tons of 70-something men and women who are vital and sharp and spry, and Biden is not one of them. His performance at last week’s debate was flat-out disturbing. But maybe I’m too young to really “get” Joe Biden. Maybe I am part of Generation Garbage Youth Reporter.

Joe Biden is 76 and has been in Washington since before Jimmy Carter’s presidency, and his younger critics won’t let anyone forget it. The media, too, has fallen into a pattern of covering his every verbal fumble or moment of unwokeness with a ferocity otherwise reserved for Donald Trump. But with a double-digit lead in nearly every primary state, Team Biden wonders, when will the skeptics accept the primacy of the true Biden Narrative—that he’s the safest bet to retake the White House and that his nomination is inevitable?

“I don’t know of anybody who has taken as sustained and vitriolic a negative pounding as Biden, and who has come through it with the strength he has,” a top Biden adviser tells Ryan Lizza in a fascinating new story at Politico. “So why isn’t the argument not that he’s a ‘fragile front-runner,’ but instead why is this guy so strong? How is he able to withstand this?”

The overwhelming sense in Biden’s camp is that he isn’t too old, but the reporters covering his campaign are too young. “You have a press corps in which most of them were in college when Barack Obama ran for president, and they have fundamentally no understanding and experience in how politics works,” a well-known Democratic ally of Biden’s told Lizza. “They have not really covered a true Democratic primary ever, because there hasn’t been one since 2008.”

The problem, she continued, is that all those young reporters think the party is controlled by “woke millennials,” and they view it “through the lens of coastal issues”; as a result, they cannot comprehend the majority of the party’s voters, who tend to be older and more moderate (including many black and Latino voters). Then come the shots at AOC: “They are, this person argued, obsessed with a Democratic Party that exists only on Twitter. She pointedly noted that there are Democrats “outside of those 18,000 voters in Queens,” referring to the total vote share—it was actually closer to 17,000—for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in her June 2018 primary victory. “And by the way, those didn’t even tend to be the economically disadvantaged people of color who live in that district. They were the quote ‘new people’ if you talk to anyone from New York.”

[From Vanity Fair]

It’s like no one from Biden’s campaign – or even in the Democratic Party in general – would think “hey, wouldn’t it be great if we could find a way to appeal to the old-school Democrats AND Gen X AND the Millennials AND the garbage youths?” Because Millennials are actually in their late 20s and early 30s right now. And we need the garbage youths to f–king vote too. And I seriously doubt that most 18-year-olds will be jazzed about casting their first vote… for a 76-year-old man who thinks they’re too young to understand what’s happening in their country. Instead of arguing that there are too many youths COVERING the campaign, maybe acknowledge that Biden’s support is f–king soft for a reason? He’s a terrible candidate, he’s too old, he’s out of touch, he keeps putting his hands on people and all he really has is name recognition.

There’s also a video making the rounds from 2017, where Biden tells a story about being a lifeguard in a predominantly black neighborhood’s public pool and he had to face down a local “bad dude” named… Corn Pop. This is a story he’s been telling for years and the whole thing is just… I don’t even know. Reporters are already digging into the story and what’s even weirder is that there’s, like, evidence to back it up. There was a dude nicknamed Corn Pop and there was a gang nicknamed the Romans. I don’t know.

Joe Biden Campaigns in Iowa

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  1. Diana says:

    Elizabeth Warren all the way and Beto for VP!!!!

    • DaisySharp says:

      I think Beto is part of the winning tic, and I hope more people are seeing that.

      But I am rooting for a Kamala Beto ticket, and I don’t really care which order it comes in. I think it’s the winning one. I also really do believe he puts Texas on the table.

      • Rich says:

        After watching that video of kamala mocking people who suggest building schools and not prisons, I am a bit disillusioned by her. Her ten year health insurance plan makes no sense – it would be implemented over the course of TWO other presidents, and could be easily shut down in that time. I don’t know why her campaign is essentially “we cant have nice things” and people eat it up. I think aiming for a compromise before receiving any pushback is a losing strategy. I think elizabeth is at least aiming for more.

      • Jessie says:

        Kamala has the most extensive teacher pay plan of all the candidates which has been endorsed and praised as the best by teachers union . I amazed that people are falling for all these edited “ kamala mocks this or that vids”. The woman laughs a lot but this idea that it automatically pertains to mocking the vulnerable are cynical ploys by right wingers and sadly sometimes white progressives. Maybe she should stop laughing because clearly America can’t handle a woman that’s serious or studious ( Hillary) not a woman that laughs easily and has a sense of humor. Sigh…

      • DaisySharp says:

        Jessie, a lot of the things I see white progressives saying about Kamala, strongly remind me of what the white left did to Hillary. It’s mostly false, or extremely twisted from context. I am very very unhappy about this, and so unlikely to support their preferred candidates because of it.

      • Anne Call says:

        I agree. The bots are really busy with negative Kamala tweets on twitter. I actually think that trump and his people may fear her the most. Everyone else in the top tier is old and trump has ammunition against them. Kamala being a prosecutor would help her in the general plus she would bring in younger voters, POC and women. I like Warren (she’s my second choice and if she gets the nomination she needs to have someone like Booker or Castro as VP), but right now going to vote for Harris in my primary. Go Super Tuesday!

      • Parigo says:

        Yes! Harris/O’Rourke or O’Rourke/Harris FTW!

    • escondista says:

      I like Beto a lot and was so excited to vote for him here in TX but I wish he would run for Cornyn’s senate seat.

      Warren/Harris is my number one
      Warren/Buttigieg – because i would love to see Pence go toe-to-toe with a gay veteran. WHAT WOULD MOTHER THINK?!
      Warren/Castro

    • bakes says:

      Live in NH and went canvasing for Liz this weekend! I am rooting Booker for VP though.

      • Diana says:

        Did you come to Hooksett? Just wondering if you were the person who came to my house and got super excited when I exclaimed I was going to vote for her! Lol I didn’t even allow the person a chance to say hello! Haha

  2. OriginalLala says:

    I *love* how people still talk about Millennial like we are still punk-ass kids who know nothing about life – ffs we are now in our 30s, and a huge voting bloc.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      They think we’re still in the backseat with our Gameboys, asking “Are we there yet?” FFS I’m pushing 40. GTFO with that mess.

    • escondista says:

      THIS! My mom continually says I will understand the modern conservative party when i’m older – Exactly how old do I have to be to understand? I am 35, married, with two children, I own a house, I’ve bought two cars myself, I went to college without a shred of monetary support from my parents, I have climbed the professional ladder for 11 years and I am now a director.

      I will remember how dismissive the boomers are of my generation and i vow to never be that way with my own children. When I retire, my vote will likely be heavily swayed by how they feel because they are the ones that must live much longer with the consequences of these elections.

    • WTW says:

      Millennials are not punk-ass kids, but as someone who works in the media, Biden’s team isn’t wrong: the press is veering way too young. I am a young Gen Xer/ Xennial who has worked for both traditional newspapers and some of the hip online organizations. At the latter especially, you’ll be hard-pressed to find anyone older than 40. At my last job at an online news org, my editor was in her 20s and admitted she knew nothing about journalism and was learning as she went along. She wasn’t an anomaly. This is a huge problem. It may not seem like it from the outside, but from the inside, it’s pretty alarming. And, yes, the new journalists tend to be hip, elitist New Yorkers who all dress alike, run in the same circles, and think they are so much cooler than everyone else is. That’s my experience as someone who worked for one of the largest and most influential online news websites. Even at news orgs like the LA Times, you’ll find the journos are mostly under 40 as well. This does give them a lack of perspective and experience, depending on the topic, and a myopic point of view. I do not support Joe Biden’s candidacy, but journalism has a major ageism problem as well as a racism and, to a lesser degree, gender problem.

      • Anne Call says:

        I’m older and I’m frustrated with all the old white guys (and gals) who are writing opinion for NYT and populate some of the news shows (I’m looking at you PBS Newshour). There needs to be a balance and many different voices especially POC who are going to be the majority in this country in 30 years. What has changed is that news has exploded and anyone with a website can be a “news” organization.

        Biden’s numbers remind me of Hillary’s in 2007. She was up almost 20 points in September, mainly because of name recognition and the constant “inevitable” pontificating that went on in news rooms. This thing is going to change drastically by the time the first votes are cast in Iowa.

      • C-No says:

        Maybe they shouldn’t have laid off all the olds?! 35-year-old publisher here and I totally agree, TBH I’m too young/inexperienced for the job I’m in, but all the little papers got bought and everyone got laid off and no one is left but the babies willing to work for peanuts. And me and you apparently, but that’s it.

    • Betsy says:

      Yeah – this Millennial has three kids and owns a home. This nonsense that we’re young and naive and stupid is really staring to stick in my craw.

    • Angela82 says:

      My friend complains about millennials all the time. I am on the cusp b/w millennial and Gen X so I just laugh it off but I hate the stereotype that we’re “lazy”. Every group has a subset of lazy people. I mean look at the Trumps. Never worked a day in their life but its fine when its old Reagan capitalists.

  3. Kiki says:

    Young Millennials and Gen z are really important to your votes Sir… You need us. This is why Elizabeth Warren got my vote. Maybe Bernie Sanders but Elizabeth Warren all the way.

  4. DaisySharp says:

    “I don’t know of anybody who has taken as sustained and vitriolic a negative pounding as Biden, and who has come through it with the strength he has,” a top Biden adviser tells Ryan Lizza in a fascinating new story at Politico”

    Well. Ain’t that a quote. That there is how you know women don’t matter. Women don’t count. Women are invisible.

    Because if you lived through the lifetime of Hillary damned Clinton, then you know someone who has taken a longer, MORE vitriolic (by far) negative pounding, and come through it strong.

    Biden can kiss my ass.

    • Esmom says:

      No f^cking kidding. If I wasn’t already hitting my head on my desk at the headline, this quote sealed it.

      I’m truly frightened about Biden as the possible nominee.

    • Betsy says:

      CHURCH.

      I didn’t like Biden much when Obama picked him but fine I voted for them both times, and I will vote for a vase of flowers with a D after its name because I’m an American and I want us to get better, not more GOP, but I really don’t want to vote for him.

      WARREN!!!

    • Angela82 says:

      UGH. Don’t get me started. Women always face harsher criticism and yet get no credit when they overcome it. CIP: Hillary Clinton. And even now Warren and Harris have to be error free in the debates and yet Biden can say questionable shit and its no biggie, its his “age”. I also know men who love to say Warren is batshit crazy. Why I have no idea. I am look at who the POTUS is. Talk about batshit.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Totally agree on Biden- I see no butter on his emails, so he needs to quit complaining. ;)

  5. Yup, Me says:

    So what I think I hear you saying is that not only is Joe Biden old and out of touch, so are his “people”.

  6. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    I used to like Joe but here lately I’m side-eyeing him HARD. I like Liz and Pete. They’re my people. I’m not a registered Dem but I’m voting blue no matter who. I can’t afford to vote third party in Florida. It didn’t matter as much when I lived in Washington. Not this time around.

  7. SamC says:

    For someone who was so close to the Obama campaign it’s ridiculous what an old school, out of touch campaign he’s running. It reminds me of how Hilary also relied on old school staffers and methods. It didn’t work then, why do they think it will work now? It’s painful to think that 4 more years of Trump is looking like a real possibility if Biden is the nominee, and I actually like the guy.

    • Tipsytina says:

      No she didn’t. Hillary did not in 2016. In 2008 yes. But since I believe you are talking about 2016 that’s a false statement.

    • PleaseAndThankYou says:

      @SamC

      In 2008, yes. But 2016? That’s absolutely false. Her campaign manager was Robby Mook, who is, as of this very moment, only 39 years old. If you bothered to google anything about him, or the rest of her 2016 campaign staff, I think you would realize exactly how uninformed you sound right now.

      Source: Robby Mook was my boss.

  8. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    On a side note, does anyone else think Biden looks like Jeff Dunham’s Walter when he frowns, or is it just me? I can’t unsee it now.

  9. Lizzie says:

    he’s the who has fundamentally no understanding in how modern politics works. i’m a millennial that has been paying into his f-ing social security for over 15 years despite that fact that his generation is sucking this country dry and i will have to survive by my wits in a post apocalyptic wasteland when i’m his age. i sincerely think he needs to go suck a werther’s and collect his check.

  10. Lala11_7 says:

    Yesterday, seeing Biden speak at the Memorial of the 4 Little Black Birmingham girls…and KNOWING that he built his career on coddling and co-signing with the type of inhuman racist politicians that would have had no problem putting that bomb in that church….and spent their lives PROTECTING racists who DO put bombs and bullets in minority churches….

    Made me cry REAL tears….

  11. Annaloo. says:

    We radical moderates need Michael Bennet, not Joe Biden.

    • Lala11_7 says:

      THIS!!!!!!!!!!! To see him and Kamala on the ticket together next year..

      Would bring me…SO MUCH….

      Just…

      Joy

  12. Dani says:

    The whole debate was a disaster. Everyone yelling, hurling insults at each other. Even the women on the View said it was pathetic. EVERYONE needs to do better.

    • Green Desert says:

      Did you actually watch the debate? There wasn’t a lot of yelling or insults. Bernie is naturally shout-y, Castro took Biden to task a few times (deservedly, I’d say) but “everyone” behaving in the way you say didn’t even happen. I can’t believe The View is still a thing that people watch and I certainly wouldn’t get my news from them. And no not “everyone” needs to do better…we have a couple of really intelligent, thoughtful, great candidates (not named Joe Biden).

  13. greenteaandrosehip says:

    Maybe everyone should ignore Uncle Joe and he’ll go away.
    All in for Kamala!

  14. LP says:

    It’s early days but I’m envisioning a warren/Castro ticket with cabinet positions for Beto, Kamala, Mayor Pete, Inslee, etc. Beto and Kamala especially wold be great president material once they’ve racked up that experience and used it to win statewide elections (another for Kamala and Beto’s first, in this case). A lot of candidates are doing this to boost their profiles, and for some of them they’re illustrating how good they’d be in important non-presidential roles!

  15. Ruyana says:

    It disturbs me to see so many “all in for Kamala”. You clearly either do not know her record or you do not care. She is not the one for good reason.

  16. Angela82 says:

    I think what makes it worse is Biden expects the nom because he is an old white male (and privileged) therefore he’ll win. its the very thing Hillary haters complained about in 2016 (that she expected the nom) and yet when its a man who struggles to form thoughts its totally fine and how dare we bring up his age and past record because he’s the only one to defeat Trump. He is NOT Obama and I wish some people would stop treating him as such. He is also just too old. Sorry if I’m an ageist but I wish the US would start electing younger candidates like Obama. There is nothing more dangerous than handing over power to someone struggling with memory issues, dementia, etc. Have we learned nothing from Reagan and Trump…

  17. Cindy says:

    It just pisses me off I keep hearing Biden is the only one who could beat Trump. Like, I legitimately think the opposite. If Biden’s there I definitely see him losing. He’s not compelling to the younger voters and, as a younger voter myself, I have realised that our generation is indeed incredibly stupid and despite complaining non-stop about Trump for 4 years they are not voting against him if the Dem candidate isn’t one of their liking. Much like how a lot of left-leaning people let Trump win because they couldn’t get behind Clinton.

    We’ve learned nothing.

  18. Angela82 says:

    So if Biden is the nominee obviously I would have to vote for him b/c I can’t do another 4 years of the White House Apprentice: We’re all going to die sequel. But I am really concerned that if he’s elected its basically for 8 years (I hope b/c fuck repukes). By the time Joe leaves office he’ll be in his mid 80s. Why can’t we stop with the old men running everything. Usually by your 80s you’re retired for a reason.

  19. Tipsytina says:

    I was torn between warren and Kamala because I want a woman president. But after seeing how the Liz army just swoops in everywhere and degrades a black woman instead of building their candidate up I am all in for Kamala.

    • Jessie says:

      Same. The lack of cred kamala gets for her plans and the vitriol from warren supporters lately is really turning me off. I expected it from bernie supporters but I am really disappointed in warren supporters going down that road too. I

  20. Prairiegirl says:

    Woodward and Bernstein were 29/28 years old respectively when they broke the Watergate story. Biden needs to take a permanent seat.

  21. Jessie says:

    Biden doesn’t have it any worse than the black and brown candidates on the contrary . The media is very white and broish. Castro is largely ignored as is booker and kamala is largely seen through a white bro lense. The media are falling over themselves to hype youngish white men like Beto and Pete in turn.

    • DaisySharp says:

      Man, Booker is SO overlooked. I find him to be the most overlooked, because he would be one heck of a candidate against trump! Maybe even the best one, I don’t know, but he’s up there. I love Cory. I don’t think he can make it, but I would be all in for Cory and I’ve donated to him. I know he would choose a woman vp too. I have donated to Cory, to Kamala (the most) and to Beto. Beto recently because IMO he has transformed the gun debate in this country and I waited my whole life for that.

  22. Ally says:

    Biden tanked even harder in his previous two presidential runs when reporters were closer to his age, so his staff can just stop it with the latest of their desperate excuses. Even worse than Biden’s mush-brained word salads is the core of sexism, racism and economic cluelessness in what he says.

    The only reason he’s scoring as well as he is now is due to lingering goodwill towards the Obama years compared to the current circus. He has no sway in the rust belt since he supported the same destructive trade policies that tanked Hillary there. Shamefully, his only change argument is that racist Republicans will be more willing to make deals with him than with the black president.

  23. Ann says:

    Boomers can’t seem to grasp that Millennials are all adults now. Every last one of us. We have careers and families and very legit adult concerns. If we aren’t supposed to be ageist against old people I feel the same standard should be held for young people.

    Some of us “woke” Millennials also have a firm grasp of how politics work. I am 34. I have volunteered for multiple campaigns while I was in college, under both Bush and Obama. My political awakening happened on 09/11/2001 when I was 16. We’ve seen some shit and we know what we’re doing, thank you very much.

    Biden is not as sure of a thing as this article wants him to be. I’m not going to stop supporting Bernie and Warren just because Vanity Fair thinks I’m living in the clouds.