In late August, the Sun reported that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex stopped by the Rose & Crown pub for a “Sunday roast.” The claim, at the time, was that the Sussexes brought out a sleeping Archie for their nice, quiet meal and no one really bothered them. The story came on the heels of a solid month of tabloid BS about the Sussexes being awful for traveling on private planes and/or going on vacation. Many commenters thought that the story was horsesh-t, or that the story was real and that the Sussexes were pulling a Cambridge and trying to look like normal middle-class peeps. Well… I don’t know if this was the same trip, but there’s now photo-evidence that the Sussexes went to the Rose & Crown:
Prince Harry & Meghan Markle Take Archie Out to a Pub https://t.co/xH0gXzOj48
— TMZ (@TMZ) September 18, 2019
TMZ had the exclusive – and they even say that this happened weeks ago.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are giving their royal baby a taste of the commoner’s life by attempting to go undercover for an ordinary day at a British pub. The Duke and Duchess hit up The Rose & Crown in Windsor, England and as you can see in photos obtained by TMZ … they blended right in with their infant son, Archie. Harry had a tight grip on Archie’s car seat while Meghan lugged some more baby gear, during the family outing a few Sundays back. The royal tyke, who was less than 4 months old at the time, had a blanket over him and appeared to be napping.
Instead of taking in a cricket or rugby match on the telly … we’re told Archie kept pretty damn quiet for the 2 hours the family was there. Not a single peep outta the little guy — even when Mom changed his nappy, (that’s what they call diapers). Mom and Dad enjoyed a roast dinner, the house specialty, and Harry helped himself to a couple of pints while Meghan settled for water. We’re told they were treated just like all the other patrons — who didn’t bother the royals at all. So much so, one witness said it almost seemed like many customers didn’t even recognize them. They weren’t all that incognito though … with private security and 2 police officers in tow.
What’s really weird is that this happened three weeks ago, if we’re going by the Sun’s reporting, and in that time, this photo never came out? Someone at the pub clearly took the photo, knowing that they were seeing Harry and Meg and baby Archie, and then… the person just sat on the photo for weeks before selling it to TMZ, or perhaps selling it to a photo agency and the agency sold it to TMZ? I don’t get why the photo is coming out now. But whatever… it’s a nice confirmation of the Sussexes’ lowkey pub trips. The Cambridges also stop by local pubs in Bucklebury and Norfolk too. How quaint!
Photos courtesy of Backgrid and WENN.
I so want to see more pictures of Archie. And happy 35th to Harry!
Archie has no clue what is going on so let’s be real that this isn’t about giving him a normal experience. This is the couple wanting to get out. Good for them. Weird that the pic just circulated.
Yes, I remember when my kids were that age – especially my first, when we still lived in a city – we would just go out to the nearest bar (more of a restaurant with a large bar during the day) and get food and sit and have a beer and be OUT of the house lol.
I agree that its weird this pic just circulated. Wonder if the person tried British outlets first and they declined?
We just went for coffee with friends and their 1 month old. I believe it was their first real outing since the little gal was born – they were SO pumped. It’s nice to see new parents trying to bring some more normalcy after such a huge routine change like a baby.
Cynical me says they were probably holding out for a good price for the pic lol
I still love the fact that Harry is so proud to wear his wedding ring. I don’t know why it always ticked me off that William doesn’t. And while I know Charles and PP are purported to wear a tiny band on their pinkies, behind their signet ring… I don’t know. I know everyone KNOWS they’re married, and I know a lot of men don’t “like” jewellery, or can’t wear it for work. But it just makes me (irrationally) happy that Harry likes to wear his lol 😆
If my husband hadn’t wanted to wear a wedding ring, I would have opted out, too. I might have started to question the whole enterprise. Wearing our rings is one of the few ways we actually get sentimental about the whole thing.
Men, like women, are more likely to work indoors these days in service and professional occupations, typing on a computer keyboard. Their precious fingers are safe. I wonder how the men who “don’t like jewelry” would feel about their wives deciding that they don’t like it, either. I know anyone can slip off a ring to appear available, but to me it always seemed to me a matter of fairness and equality. But, to each their own, and people are different, I just never cared for it that some men seemed insecure about “jewelry” or expected their wives to appear “taken” while allowing themselves to opt out.
Also, I’ve discovered silicon bands for the gym, etc. Very useful and safer. Not that anyone’s tried to pick me up at the gym for a couple decades…
This all makes me sound very old-fashioned.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings.
We were at a friends wedding a couple of weeks ago. There was a bit about the symbolism of a wedding ring, and how important it is, and I glance over at my husband who was conspicuously hiding his hand haha. He’d forgotten his at home.
But he’s also a plumber, so wearing a ring is a no-no for the vast majority of jobs.
Part of me wishes he’d wear one more often, but then the much larger part of me truly doesn’t care. I go through phases where I’ll take mine off, put them in the jewelry box, and leave them off for a week or two at a time, and he doesn’t care. If I’m doing something with my hands, I’d rather not wear them. And in the winter, sometimes they get a little bit too loose when my hands get cold, so I’d rather not lose them. I think if he told me “look, I hate the feeling of wearing a wedding band” it really wouldn’t be much of an issue to me. It’s not like that ring is going to be a magical forcefield or anything. And if he wanted to cheat on me, the ring probably isn’t stopping him, ya know?
But I also can understand why it bothers other people when their spouse doesn’t wear a ring.
It isn’t a tiny band, it is as thick as the bands of their pinky rings. The traditional way of that set historically not some way of hiding something. Those ARE their wedding bands, made from the Welsh gold nugget, and where they choose to wear them. Philip, Charles, Edward, Andrew (when married).
What is more interesting is William didn’t even have one made for the ceremony. Even if he wasn’t going to wear it daily, he never cared to have one at all.
WATP, Nota, I totally agree. It IS the symbolism. I really do question those that won’t even have one for the ceremony.
The fact that William wouldn’t even have one made… that stinks in my book. Have there been others in direct line (down the line in history) that have refused to do this?
Those signet rings always look so gangster to me, like from The Godfather or Sopranos. I know it’s a thing with aristos but think they look cheesy. Harry and Meghan are so cute and I think the press is full of it when they keep bleating about how they don’t have access and the Sussex’s are too private. They just want dish and photo shoots. And the obsession with Archie is so weird. Babies under a year just nap most of the time, not like he’s doing much.
The decision to wear a ring is personal, but it bothered me they kept announcing it at the time of their wedding as “royal tradition” for William not to wear one which is patently untrue and ridiculous.
I am a woman, and I would never EVER wear a ring, and that includes a wedding ring. (I even broke up with someone because he was oddly fixated on the matter.)
I despise wearing jewelry (I do enjoy observing the craftsmanship of it, i.e. merely as objects to be admired), and I despise superfluous symbolic gestures even more.
If I am committed to someone, there is no need for external tokens to demonstrate it to the world at large. It’s a private, intimate feeling and situation. The world at large has no say in it.
(Obviously, this is MY opinion, concerning my life and my feelings.)
Good for them
I find the photos terribly intrusive.
I actually do too. Its one of those things where I’m like, AW LOOK THEY’RE AT THE PUB and then I think “yikes, that’s pretty intrusive.”
I agree with this. It doesn’t looked stage. And it’s a good pic to show how bad it can get with being who they are.
Yeah, that sucks for them. Now they probably won’t go to that pub again. Or if they do, it will be more dangerous for them. People could stalk the place, waiting for them to show up.
I do too!!! It was fine that we heard about it. I saw Malia Obama at the Georgetown Urban Outfitters and told everyone I knew, but none of us took a picture.
I also don’t think it’s too weird the pictures just came out. The person who took the picture was probably trying to get the most money for it. This social media culture needs a reset, cause that is a bit rude.
Harry does not look pleased. I would be mortified if I was not only trying to sneak a pic of them, but got caught in the act by Harry!
Harry smiled… I am not sure what you see.
That picture from TMZ looks like a smile to you?! He looks like he just made eye contact with the photo sneak mid-sentence…
This is maybe the only thing I feel bad for royals and celebs about. Can’t go to Target and just browse or a restaurant and have a pint without folks taking your picture and selling it. It’s enough to turn a person into a hermit.
Right? If I had to have police and bodyguards go with me for Sunday dinner I would just stay home.
How will the Cambridge surpass this? I’m waiting to see their next move. It’s gonna be a messy one if we are still talking about how Meghan “owns” her success to Kate (￣▽￣)
Normal Bill, Keen Katie and the kids have dinner at McDonalds! Film at 11!!!!!!!
Perhaps, another take the kids to school event has been added to their oh so very busy September schedule. 😉
Two pints!?! On top of a giant dinner? Ugh British men are weird!!
Have you tried it? It goes down nicely with a traditional Sunday roast. But I guess it could be a cultural thing, I groan at American eating habits when I am Stateside.
A couple drinks over dinner is not unusual, says this Torontonian.
@evil owl – not weird in Canada either. Hubby enjoys a pint or two with his roast beast as he calls it.
I don’t think that’s weird at all (and I’m American). Especially if they were there for a few hours. Harry had a pint, they ordered their food, ate it, he had another pint.
it’s not weird, my hubby and most of my dude friends (Canadian) have several pints if we are eating at a pub
Yeah, same. Two pints is pretty standard for us when we go to a pub or a bar/restaurant. We’ll usually order one, get a giant order of nachos or a pizza to split with the table, and end up ordering a second part way through the meal.
I’m also not sure why it’s weird when America is constantly portrayed to thrive on things like happy hour?
totally Erinn! Maybe it’s more of an East Coast thing? Hubby is from Cape Breton and we lived in NL and Halifax for a very long time before moving to Ottawa a few years ago, so maybe our pub eating/drinking habits are more East Coasty than other parts of Canada/US?
@OriginalLala: Come visit the prairies, the pub habits are the same. Ottawa’s just the town fun forgot. 😉
Oh lala – that’s too funny. We always joke about the love of drinking between the Cape Bretoner’s and Newfs. I’m 3 hours outside of Hali, so maybe you’re on to something. I come from a relatively light drinking family, but even they will whip out the wine or some beer for family dinners. Must be the celtic/viking blood haha.
But also – whenever someone gets a cold, the grandparents were like “Get some drambuie in you – that’ll help!” because gramp’s mom was from Scotland and I’m pretty sure they just looked for an excuse to drink drambuie. Which – will make you feel temporarily better, even if it’s just because it’ll let you breathe out of your nose again haha.
I don’t know about Canada (I’ll say when we were in Toronto the pints appeared to be free-flowing, so to speak), but on the west coast of the US I definitely think two beers over the course of a dinner is completely normal, at least based on my time out there.
This is such a funny discussion to me.
@Prairiegirl dying at the Ottawa comment!!! It is definitely a town where you need to make your own fun isn’t it? Thankfully we live in a town on the Quebec side 😉
I was just in Ottawa and it seemed as if people were having a decent enough time and a decent amount of liquor, at least in the Byward Market area with its heavy concentration of pubs and cafes, but I’m older, I was a tourist, and it’s all relative.
I’m in California and it’s commonplace to have a couple of beers over the course of dinner. It’s not really that strange, especially if you’re taking your time enjoying the meal.
I’m Southern…this is completely normal two have 2 or three beers with dinner. Not sure what makes British men weird for also doing so.
I am a female and when I go out with hubby and kids after a long day and/or week of work, dinner and two beers is the norm. I can’t do three or I’d pass out. 🤣
Two beers, two hours, with a meal … I genuinely do not understand the weirdness.
Vancouver Islander here – we have some of the best craft beer breweries in the world here and I often have a couple of beers when I go out for dinner. Why just British men? Why are they weird? How do you know it was a giant dinner? Could have been a slice or two of beef, some veggies and a salad.
These are literally the least interesting paparazzi photos ever, so blurry and dark! Yes, I can see a guy that does look sort of like Prince Harry, but the person with him could be the girl from The Ring for all we can see!!!
Usually the RPOs “ask” (read: tell) people not to take photos in situations like this. It’s not a paparazzi photo – some other patron at the pub took it on their phone. The quality is bad because they were trying to get away with it without the RPOs noticing.
Yeah, but the RPOs are the two guys sitting there. They do stop all pics from being taken. The pub is empty except for them and the HM party. And whoever is clicking away. Take the pics, publish them but save the drama.
Lol, the Megxiters are pissed about the pictures. Weird.
Why? Wait, do I even want to know? lol
Let me guess- they’re upset Harry is acting like a doting dad and husband?
Yep, they doesn’t want to believe the guy is Harry.
They’ll get their hateful mojo back. It appears Meghan is wearing shorts. Clutch your pearls now, that’s a royal protocol breaker that will absolutely bring down the monarchy!
What’s wrong with shorts? Hot day, on your own time = no-one’s business.
Nothing wrong with shorts, Chrome. I tend to run hot so I would wear them almost year round if I could (north east US). The megxiters will find anything they can clutch their Pearl’s over.
I still think it’s hilarious that the downfall of the monarchy won’t be Prince Andrew and his suspected rape of a trafficked girl but Meghan not allowing the royal reporters to live stream the dilation of her cervix.
I would have thought they’d be happy and latch on to the fact the baby was asleep and not moving or crying. Didn’t they use the fact Cumberbatch’s kid wasn’t moving in a still photo as proof it was a doll?
Queen’s son is a sexual criminal, leaching on the taxpayers money to sustain their royal lifestyle and image, the Monarchy is becoming complicit in dismantling of democracy but sure, let’s all gasp at how regular the royals are.
Didn’t the Rose and Crown deny it? This is all so weird.
I think the pub wanted to protect the Sussexes.
My guess: pub denied it because H & M can’t/won’t come back if people know to find them there. As Joanna noted above, it’s a security risk. The pub lied to keep the paps, gawkers and crazies away, only now someone sold pics.
Those seem a reasonable answer.
They did but it probably would have been better for them to say we don’t comment about our guests. But good of them not to sell them out.
The Pub denied this story, so I don’t know what to believe.
Lainey, said everyone looking at Harry’s birthday wishes on Instagram, focused on Archie, and did not pay attention to the one of Diana carrying baby Harry, from a private plane, when he was about the same age as Archie.
You know Lainey and her conspiracy theories, was the pic chosen deliberately?
I think Lainey made fun of a psychologist, Jo Hemmings.
Yeah I think Lainey was being satirical because a psychologist was interviewed and gave her opinion that one of the pics that was chosen in the birthday collage hinted at a rift between William and Harry. It was completely absurd.
There are also those that believe that the choice of pub, ‘The Rose & Crown’ is a dig at more nefarious things. Lol, the speculation about the imagined ‘feud’ between both couples is absolutely bonkers at this point. Pretty sure they mostly just stay out of each other’s way.
That didn’t even occur to me but that’s kind of funny. Of course that had nothing to do with it, but it still makes me laugh.
I did look at the menu and that place looks really good and the prices seem fairly reasonable.
🤣
Those pics are so intrusive.
I can’t wait to see some pics of Archie from the tour, today on twitter another reporter said that he looks like Harry (and with red hair!).
https://twitter.com/JamieSamhan/status/1174120175978741760
Can’t wait for Meghan’s half brother to appear from the shadows again “look, look, he got his red hair from me!! Meg is a witch for not letting me meet my baby twin nephew!”
Oh I remember those days of having to pack half of the house just to take the baby out for a few hours 🙂
After I had my first, I remember thinking how they should have show-and-tell at the junior/senior high schools of all the gear you had to cart around just to take a baby out, and that would be a big deterrent to teen pregnancy, lol!
It seems to me like they are just living their lives. This wasn’t a photo op or a publicity stunt – unlike William and Kate’s little plane stunt.
Exactly this. You can tell this one wasn’t staged, unlike Their Keennesses the Cambridge’s.
So intrusive.
Ah, Sussexes trying to claim they were just ordinary folks. Hilarious.
Just like that Cambridge cheap flight event. The Cambridges, too, were trying to claim they were ordinary folks. Hilarious, too.
Can’t they go out to eat? If they wanted it known, we would have gotten far better photos than this one, and a lot quicker, too.
Why is it such a big deal they went out to eat at a nice pub in their town? Is this anti-social climbing? Windsor is fairly upscale, pub grub is a thing, and they like to eat. Bet they order pizza sometimes too. Oooh how dare they eat Sunday dinner, like normal people. Sometimes the thing is just a thing.
The wealthy and titled nobs go “down the pub” all the time. They’re not trying to claim anything, that’s what people do there.
If I were a conspiratorially minded person, I would imagine that the name of the pub is a nod to Rose, Marchioness of “Chumly” and Crown(ed) Prince William and that Henry and Meghan were throwing classy, difficult to discern shade.
Ha ha – that is probably not true, but it would be so hilarious if it was! Brava.
Quiet when his nappy got changed. I doubt his nappy got changed in a food establishment by the table in front of people. At least not in my world. That is done in a washroom.
@Lindas. Agree! I find it hard to believe that Royals would be rude enough to change their baby’s nappy in a place where people are enjoying their lunch. I live in South West London and it’s seen as terribly inconsiderate to do this in an eating establishment when there are restrooms available. I have taken my then baby out to the car for nappy changes when the restrooms weren’t as clean as I would have liked. This sort of detail makes one question the credibility of the story.
Oh please!
Cambridge’s out with their lot of impolite children…oh my
Interesting. I was skeptical when reports of the outing first came out. It is good to get some time out of the house as a family.
I think there’s a picture of Archie in that gallery (with his face blurred out), welp =/ . The UK tabs aren’t going to be happy.
If you don’t want to wear a ring, just get a tattoo on your finger.