Alright, let’s talk about this stupid Selena Gomez-Hailey Baldwin drama

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This week, Selena Gomez released a new single, “Lose You To Love Me.” The song is very, very obviously about Justin Bieber and their tortured on-and-off love affair, which finally ended last year when he up and married Hailey Baldwin. The song is not “he did me wrong by marrying someone else,” it’s more like “he did me wrong for years and I’m better off without him.” My point is that this was not a pointed subtweet at Hailey. Here’s the video (the video sucks):

Just minutes after this video dropped, Hailey Baldwin put this image on her Instagram Story:

So… yeah. A vague death threat against Selena for making music about Hailey’s now-husband? Perhaps. But according to Hailey, it was all an innocent coincidence.

The model reportedly responded to the accusations with a since-deleted comment on Just Jared‘s Instagram page, the news outlet said. “Please stop with this nonsense… there is no ‘response,’” Baldwin wrote, according to a screenshot obtained by Just Jared. “This is complete BS.”

[From People]

Yeah, this reminds me of the recent controversy with Taylor Swift and Justin’s “mockery” of her banana video. Hailey was arguably being shady there too, only she turned around and acted all innocent, like she would NEVER. Maybe this is Hailey’s M.O. – do something shady on social media, then pretend that we’re all misconstruing her meaning, it’s all just jokes and we’re the ones with the problem. It’s weird.

Meanwhile, here’s another new Selena single – “Look At Her Now.” This one is obviously about Bieber too. Yeah… I mean, I’ll call out Hailey for being an a–hole, but can we have a conversation about Selena devoting the majority of her musical oeuvre to songs about g–damn Justin Bieber? Selena dated The Weeknd too, make some songs about him as well!

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  1. Lisa says:

    Selena actually thought she was going to marry Justin and no matter what she says it must have hurt badly when he got married to Hailey. Hailey won so she needs to stop being so insecure.

    • Miles says:

      How is Selena being insecure lol Hailey (and her husband) is the one who is always stalking Selena fan accounts and is throwing shade at her. If anything Hailey is the one that is insecure otherwise she wouldn’t pay any mind to her husband’s ex.

      • kacyy says:

        I do not like this “won” language. I don’t think Hailey won anything. Selena is the one who will be better off. But this setting up women in competition for males is a part of the patriarchy. Getting a husband is not winning. It’s just getting a husband.

      • cherriepie84 says:

        Selena seems like she is still hung up on her ex, bitter much……the guy is married maybe find other material to write about and move on? Hailey Baldwin is such a joke….she could have kept her trap shut, ignored the song and moved on but no had to blow it all out of proportion. It wasnt necessary and totally immature.

      • Lisa says:

        I never said Selens was being insecure. Hailey is married to Justin and has no need to respond to Selena ever.

      • Spicecake38 says:

        I took it that Lisa was saying for Hailey to stop being insecure….?

      • mk says:

        I think she meant Hailey is the insecure one, right?

      • Nahema says:

        I completely agree that Hailey won nothing here and we need to stop using such terminology. Justin seems like Selina’s first real love and it makes sense that she would make music about moving on from that. I find both Hailey and Justin to be really shady people who deserve each other. Selina seems to have suffered emotionally and mentally but she seems like she has come out the other side as the one who has gained more balance and is a better person as a result.

    • Renee says:

      No one married to Justin Bieber has “won”. That’s all I’ve got……

      • Spicecake38 says:

        Truest statement ever!👏👏👏👏👏

      • My3cents says:

        More like dodged a bullet girl.

      • C says:

        😆😆 true

      • jessica says:

        Right?! Love this comment!

      • SM says:

        “No one married to Justin Bieber has “won”. – exactly. This is a weird world where two women beefing over Bieber exist

      • Kosmos says:

        Exactly, he’s still not mature. Selena and Justin were ok as young innocent love maybe, but never meant to last because of age and experience. Especially Justin, he was a mess. She’s definitely better without him and needs someone way more mature than Justin. But, first loves are difficult to get over I guess and the fact that he got married, well, that was also a mistake. I doubt this marriage will last, but Hailey seems like she would hang on to the end. Cannot see the interest in Biebs as a husband or long term partner, so maybe it’s the celebrity he brings, and the money, of course!!

    • Emily says:

      Being with JB is hardly winning. Hailey is a consolation prize – JB wanted to get married because he believes it will fix him. I think when him and Selena briefly got back together he wanted that and she probably thought they needed to work through shit not get married. Enter Hailey.

      I see why this relationship meant so much to Selena. I too would like some songs about the Weekend.

      • zuzu says:

        I mean how would we know if one of her songs was about the Weekend instead of about Bieber? Maybe they are all about the Weekend.

    • Mel says:

      No one “wins” a spouse, that being said Hailey now has to deal with messy ass Justin, while Selena gets to live her best, self-supporting life. So………….

    • Al Dente says:

      The idea that Hailey is bothered seems 100% made up to stir up drama. Selena does seem insecure, no doubt. She wanted to marry Justin and she’s still hurt about it. It’s a stretch to say Hailey is reacting to anything. More like crazy 12-year-old Selena stans are overreacting and reading into everything.

  2. Toot says:

    Damn, that Look at her now song is really terrible

    • Michelle says:

      Compared to what song of hers is good? They are ALL terrible!

    • Lou says:

      Very bad. Not that her music is exactly highbrow but at least it’s generally catchy!

    • Spicecake38 says:

      So is the other new one,not that I have spent time actually trying to listen to her music but I’ve heard the Lose you to love me stupid song about 15 times since yesterday morning and ,yuck!

    • MariaS says:

      All of her music is terrible and she’s not a good singer. Which is why she rarely sings live and when she does you realize how much help she had in the studio. Her success as a singer (how high her albums go on Billboard) baffles me.

      • A says:

        It all comes down to good record producers and catchy tunes. Selena owes all her success to them cause I don’t think anyone’s buying her music for amazing vocals.

  3. Laalaa says:

    I say BRAVO for writing songs about him. He was her big “love”, he was trouble, and now she is free and making money out of it 🙂

    • Diana says:

      I agree! Looking forward to hearing the second song mentioned in this post. The first the ballad is underwhelming at best! I am always looking for good pump up jams for the spin classes I teach and I really hate new music these days. Never thought I’d be one of those middle aged people who say stuff about the music in my day, but here we are.

    • BL says:

      I totally agree Laalaa. Good for her.
      SIde bar: After reading the header I was thinking what “drama” is Selena providing? It seems fairly one-sided to me…

    • Becks1 says:

      Ha! It reminds me of the meme I see going around about Taylor Swift and Stevie Nicks. Taylor – writes songs about her exes. Stevie Nicks – makes her ex play guitar on the songs she wrote about him lol and he has to perform them with her for decades.

      • Laura says:

        True about Nicks except it went both ways…. She has always despised Go Your Own Way and hated singing it on stage with him because it made her look bad. Truth hurts baby! Lol That’s the best effu anthem ever though.

      • Jax says:

        I do think Stevie might have gotten ultimate revenge on that one since she wrote the lyrics for The Chain. And he has to sing her words.

      • Becks1 says:

        Go Your Own Way is one of my least favorite FM songs, lol. I know people love it, and I like it live, but I always skip it when it comes on.

        Lindsey did stick it to her though by putting Silver Springs on the B side of the single for it.

      • H says:

        Lindsey Buckingham was an abusive a-hole to Stevie and a bunch of other girlfriends. I read Mick Fleetwood’s autobiography and I think it one point Mick had to pull Lindsey off of Stevie during a fight as he was beating the crap out of her. So actually Stevie “won” by dumping that d-bag and Selena will realize that she’s also won in about 20 years when Bieber is broke and a has-been.

    • TheHeat says:

      I agree 100%.
      She shares a similar fan-base to Justin, and a LOT of those kids were huge Justin-Selena stans.
      The album may have been cathartic for her to write, but it also explains to her fans what she went through, and how she’s okay now and stronger for it. That can be helpful to young girls going through something similar.

  4. Aims says:

    Selena should be thankful ahe dodged a bullet.

  5. Michael says:

    I kind of wonder how “free” Selena really is if she keeps singing about the same thing. I think she is better served completely ignoring him and living happily. Also Hailey “won” so she should calm down

    • Esq.espres says:


    • Jax says:

      Adele made a lot of money singing through her pain of a relationship. Doesn’t mean she loves the guy anymore, doesn’t mean she doesn’t either. It’s a marker of that time and hopefully it helps both of them.

      That said, I don’t really have an interest in Selena’s music, I just don’t have a great impression of the Beiber’s at this point and hope she makes a lot of money off of it to piss them off.

  6. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    Insecurities abound with this group. Yeesh.

  7. Lizzie says:

    she’s entitled to write as many songs about anyone she wants. maybe her relationship with the weekend wasn’t song worthy? is anyone telling male singers to stop singing about their ex’s? every love song ever written was about *someone* – her ex just happens to be famous.

    i thought hailey baldwin was a christian? threatening to kill someone seems like – not a very christian thing to say.

  8. Erinn says:

    Lol Hailey might have won, but it’s a prize I wouldn’t want.

    I don’t know. I feel somewhat protective of Selena in a way. I think she’s probably a sweet girl who’s gone through some hell health and dating wise. The on and off drama between her and Biebs was probably awful – even though they both played their part in it. I can see how they’d keep going back though – it’s hard to move on and when it’s an early love I’m sure it’s even worse.

    But I also can’t imagine going through the on and off again thing while trying to manage a rough chronic illness like she has. If she wants to dedicate the bulk of an album to this, I say go for it, but play it classy. That first song falls into that category, I think.

    • Anna says:

      Yeah, no kidding!

      Justin is no prize, I’m not sure getting married to him can be considered “winning”…but Hailey has no reason to feel threatened or insecure by the fact that Selena’s making music about her ex. Hailey married the dude, it doesn’t get much more committed than marriage. (Unless he’s cheating on her…but that’s a whole other can of worms anyway.)

      • Erinn says:

        And a small part of me gets it, I suppose. I think Hailey knows that S&J were an ‘it’ couple for a long time, and it seemed like their relationship didn’t start with a huge amount of commitment from Biebs. So I can see why she’d feel at least a bit insecure, but GIRL. You got the man you wanted. You’re beautiful. You get to lead a very luxurious life – you’re doing great. I think she pays far too much attention about what stans and tabloids say, and it does get to her.

        If I was in her position though, at her current age, I don’t know that I’d be a ton more graceful about the whole thing. I think I’d at least keep the petty stuff between close friends, and not put it out for everyone to see on the internet.

    • A says:

      I think that Selena is definitely the other formative relationship Biebs had, and if things had gone a little differently, he’d have married her for sure. But I think she didn’t want to marry him just yet, but figured some time down the line, and he just skipped off with Hailey. That’s got to hurt, esp if you’ve imagined a certain future for yourself and that doesn’t happen.

      And I think that’s why Hailey doesn’t like Selena at all. She feels threatened. I think deep down, she knows that Justin wanted to get married, and maybe he didn’t particularly care to whom, as long as it was someone who’d be willing to take him on and be his surrogate mother and keep him on the straight and narrow.

  9. Ally says:

    Meh, the drama is good for views and sales.

  10. AAA says:

    Meh, both songs are terrible. I think using Justin is Selena’s go to attention grab. Would we be talking about her music if she didn’t allude to him? Didn’t she dump him? As for Hailey, don’t act like ya’ll wouldn’t be pissed if your husband’s ex was singing about your man and profiting from it. Would I post shady stuff about it? Probably not, but I’m also not 22.

    • Arizona says:

      the song seems to make it pretty clear that he dumped her and then very quickly got with Hailey. 🤷

  11. Char says:

    It’s so Christian of Hailey to say “I’ll kill you” to someone she disagrees with.

    • DaisySharp says:

      No but, it really is. This is very on brand for them these days.

    • leskat says:

      It seems like most of those people who claim to be Christians are actually the farthest thing from the loving, accepting and forgiving people they claim to be. They’re the pettiest, most drama filled, most conflicted, most conniving. Personal experience with “those types” of Christians.

  12. Kayla says:

    She’s got some Mariah level “dance” “moves” going on here. Jumpy camera cuts, flashing lights and camera angles don’t fool me.

  13. jaylee says:

    Wow. That song was terrible. I think of these people as teenagers but Selena is 27 years old. If we are rating this on a diss track scale it is at the bottom of the heap. Love Yourself by JB is far superior. This is what happens to a generation that thought Cry Me a River by JT was deep. Petty Pop makes you lots of $$$$

  14. Ann says:

    I can’t get through the song. I think Selena is supremely untalented. I don’t think Bieber is particularly talented either so there you go. I’ll be glad when she is done writing songs about him. Any song of hers is bad enough with her lacking vocal abilities. Add in Bieber as the subject and it’s basically an unenjoyable experience all around.

  15. Carmen AIC says:

    I stan Selena. I think she’s gorgeous and she has star power. She’s also a savvy businesswoman.
    But…she keeps making music about the Biebz. That’s a freaking problem.
    She’s 3 years shy of thirty and she’s still singing about how the Biebz did her wrong.
    Selena, honey, you know what would be the biggest eff you to the Biebers at this point? For you to stop caring so damn much.
    I mean, where the hell is your pride?

  16. Sug says:

    I don’t think the relationship with the weekend was real. Contract relationship.

  17. Dal says:

    Jeez bieber so immature probably has a hand in his wife’s tweets. They r like the popular bully couples in a high school movie who invite Selena to their party just to make fun of her.

  18. Ada says:

    I don’t really understand how this works with people who don’t write their own songs? Like for Beyoncé as well, do they just get given some catchy tunes with no lyrics written and then they chat with a musician/lyricist about their recent personal life so someone can write lyrics relevant to the artist..? Even though I guess the artist will collaborate with the writers even if they don’t do any writing, the technicalities of it always stumped me since a lot of pop artist rarely have writing credits

    • No Doubt says:

      Yeah….I think that’s how Britney Spears and Beyonce do it. They tell a songwriter what’s going on in their life and then they add a few lines so they can get song credit. I usually look at who writes my fav songs and it’s crazy how there can be up to 7 “writers” on songs nowadays.

  19. Jequill says:

    Am I the only one thinking that Hailey and Justin’s marriage won’t last ? They seems too immature to deal with compromises and responsabilities which are the roots of marriage. I give them 3 years, maybe less.

    Also, I don’t mind Selena talking about her feelings but these two songs are lame.

    • Anna says:

      They already got married for some pretty weak reasons (so they could have sex and Hailey could keep Justin on the straight and narrow). So it definitely seems to me like a marriage that won’t last. But if Hailey is already getting insecure about Justin’s exes, that doesn’t bode well.

  20. JanetFerber says:

    I like the song Lose You to Love Me. Had no idea it was Selena’s. If she needs to get him out of her system and make bank by it, why not? Hailey needs to take several seats. I can see by Hailey’s photo she’s really making use of Justin’s money in re-vamping her look. Okay. Basic chick Hailey upgrades on new hubby’s non-prenup money. Enjoy it, Hailey, and STFU. Whoa! I just clicked on Hailey’s picture response to Selena and it DOES say, “I’ll kill you.” WTF? Immature loser. She’s as sophomoric and as much of an asshole as her husband. Perfect fit.

  21. Agirlandherdog says:

    I don’t really care about any of the people involved (except for an extreme dislike for Justin Bieber), but they covered this on GMA this morning, and apparently Selena’s fans went full on rabid on Hailey. Selena’s response was pretty classy.

  22. Dani says:

    Taylor Swift has devoted all of her albums (literally ALL) to failed relationships and hookups. Selena writes maybe 5-6 songs about her ex and and now she’s devoting all her music to him? Nah. Go for his head, Selena.

  23. Murphy says:

    Relax girl, you can marry him next. He’s not dead.

  24. Eliza says:

    Hailey would never, she’s a good God fearing Christian woman.

    Seriously, though Hailey, you’re married both legally and now religiously, you “won” (not that Justin is a prize or really a win), take the high road and stop responding with “veiled” criticism. Hell, would JT have had his career without “Cry me a river” and the lookalike drama, this is regular pop album PR.

  25. Natalia says:

    Honestly be real, Selena doesn’t write her own songs and probably has limited say in even picking them. So no, her label is the one doing this. For sales and clicks and posts like this.

  26. TheOriginalMia says:

    Singers write songs about their exes. It’s cathartic. Hailey should have ignored her. She got Justin. They are supposedly happy. He was a problematic boyfriend to Selena. That is a fact and that’s the truth Selena is singing about.

    • Sophia’sSideEye says:

      Yeah, I don’t the get the, “she shouldn’t be writing songs about him” stuff. That’s literally what singers and songwriters do and always have. It’s the social media instant reactions/stan wars that are new and could just stop if “fans” weren’t so invested.

  27. Case says:

    I don’t have anything to say about this drama, but man her “Lose You to Love Me” song is bad. It has no flow whatsoever, no hook. It sounds so messy. She’s not a strong singer, but I’ve found a lot of her past songs catchy, at least.

  28. Ceecu33 says:

    The best shade Hailey could have done was post a loved up pic of her and Justin together, but no. They are all young and clearly immature. I doubt Hailey and Justin will last and I think Hailey knows that. I just hope when it’s all said and done he won’t run back to Selena AGAIN. Honestly I think they’re all overrated and Justin’s new clothing line looks stupid. Fashion has died along with most of everything else it seems

  29. Jodi says:

    um, i think it’s crazy to chastise Selena for writing songs about justin. he’s likely her first love, her first drama….it went on FOR YEARS and she was obviously really hurt by the toxicity over time. songwriters have every right to release music about things that impacted them. it’s just weird when people say: i wish so and so would just write about something else!

    also maybe The Weekend wasn’t that interesting.
    get it all out, Girl!

  30. Original T.C. says:

    Well what else is Hailey Baldwin going to do all day. Does she have a job or a profession? Other 22 year olds are working for a living, interning before graduation or preparing to apply to grad school, law school. She’s a spoiled rich girl with no responsibility.

  31. Sorella says:

    Hailey’s entire life thus far is “the daughter of SB.” and “the wife of JB” when she said I DO, it was to be forever known as JB’s cold leftovers / consolation prize and the “I’ll show my Ex-GF by marrying someone else” girl. She has only ever achieved anything by riding another’s name-coattail (puhleeze she is is only a “model’ based on her name and now JB’s) . Being famous as 2nd best and the bobby prize is hard I imagine, so understandably she is insecure. Selena has an actual singing and acting career achieved on HER own and Disney fanbase that grew up with her (no matter if you like this new song or not, she has a career). Hailey must have known and dreaded these autobiographical songs, yet was completely unaware of her very low spot on the “celebrity” ladder by putting out that message and angering Selena’s fans (and also giving the songs more popularity!!). I cringe for her that she showed her jealous hand IMMEDIATELY, like mere minutes later! Badly played, never let the EX see you sweat lol, If only she had realized that staying QUIET would have made her look better.

  32. Jessie says:

    I’ve always loved her. Don’t know why. Even in wizards of waverly place haha! I head the song on the radio the other day and thought that Ariana would have done it more justice but now watching the video it seems like it’s exactly what SELENA needed for herself. I hope she’s able to truly close the chapter.

  33. No Doubt says:

    Awful song title. Selena’s voice is so strange. How is she a singer?? Honestly, for her, the best revenge is just moving on and not even addressing it, but I know she wants to keep that fanbase going because it’s profitable. She dodged a bullet because Hailey will have a lifetime (ha!) of being a mother to child-like Bieber.

  34. Jaded says:

    Neither Justin nor Hailey are giving more than lip-service to their so-called Christian beliefs. Whining about how hard marriage is and how their church will help them through is just blatant hypocrisy. They both need to grow up big time if they’re still emotionally stuck in their teens using passive-aggressive behaviour like this, and they appear to have a long way to go before they know how to adult. I’m seeing a separation announcement within the year.

  35. JustMe says:

    Well we’ve all probably had THAT one Boyfriend- you go out its great then ya breakup. Make up breakup repeat i did it for 3.5 years. Left a fiance to be with him (looking back it was the right thing to do I was 20, he was 29 and in the Navy..i knew I was too young). Off /on till he met someone else (he too worked away) but oh id like her she was a lot like me…umm really YET not me). I was DEVASTATED. Made so bad choices then met my husband.

    But that first real love is INTENSE and its hard to let it go when you’ve learned to live with drama.

  36. L says:

    Like her music or not, girl is laughing all the way to the bank. She may not have good vocals, but I found the ballad to be a really beautiful song. Different strokes for different folks I guess. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  37. Hmmm says:

    Does Selena write her own music ? LoL I don’t think so.

  38. Deehunny says:

    I agree the “won” language is patriarchal and toxic. If you listen to the song “I’ll kill you” it’s about how deeply in love and jealous/clingy the singer is regarding the man she’s in love with and how she’ll support him no matter what (actually the best song out of all 3 in this post). I don’t think it’s a veiled death threat, I think it was more of a message to Selena that he’s mine no matter what.

  39. Ladygyms says:

    There is no reason for a beef because Hailey is with Justin for money and Selena can find someone who cares. Whereas Justin can date Instagram models.

  40. serena says:

    I get she made song about Bieber, they were together for years and he was her first (?) big love-while she was with the Weekend just for a hot minute (too bad). Hailey Baldwing clearly isn’t ‘over it’ as she claims.. this is all so juvenile.. sigh.

    Honestly I don’t like her much as a singer (she’s much better as a producer or actress) but I like Lose you to Love me, the other not so much, but I gotta say both videos are not the best.. leaving aside the awkward dancing, she just looks uncomfortable in both of them. I hope she is fine.

  41. Sojaschnitzel says:

    Call me crazy but I like both songs. Not for the musical style which isn’t mine (I’m an old) but for the message. I expected the worst when I hit that play button and was pleasantly surprised.

  42. liriel says:

    Honestly, I suppose Selena thought she and Justin would always be this on and off couple, he knew his wife a long time, dumped her and suddenly got married with her. Selena probably haven’t anticipated this, I wouldn’t either so I feel for her.

  43. Bread and Circuses says:

    Lyrically, these sound like songs any female pop artist might sing.

    In other words, I doubt they’re about Beiber, but I suspect Beiber is a good angle to use for marketing purposes.

    (Also, I liked the video for Lose You to Love Me. The style fits the itchy sort of vibe the song has.)