Prince Andrew’s BBC interview about Jeffrey Epstein was an absolute trainwreck

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Prince Andrew’s BBC Newsnight interview only aired on the BBC-News cable station here in America (which I’m not sure many people have?). Which is interesting, especially given Amy Robach’s hot-mic thing where she was talking about the palace shutting down the American reporting around Jeffrey Epstein’s royal and political connections years ago. There’s a clear interest and newsworthiness for this interview and I wouldn’t be surprised if larger chunks of it were made available on network TV here in the US. As for what Andrew said… my God. Reportedly, Andrew did not see the questions beforehand and clearly, he was not prepped for the interview. Or maybe his people were like “please don’t do this, it will blow up in your face” and he was like “I do what I want.” In any case, the clips from the interview are absolutely horrendous. Keep in mind, this was conducted at Buckingham Palace. Where mummy’s favorite son is carefully protected from most things. Except this. This is an absolute mess. You can read the BBC’s “highlights” here.

On Virginia Giuffre’s claim that she was trafficked to Andrew three times: “It didn’t happen. I can absolutely categorically tell you it never happened…I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever.”

The Pizza Express in Woking: Addressing Ms Giuffre’s claims that she had dined with the prince, danced with him at a nightclub, and went on to have sex with him at the house of Ghislaine Maxwell, a friend of the prince, in Belgravia, central London, he said “there are a number of things that are wrong with that story”. He said the date when Ms Giuffre says he had sex with her was 10 March 2001, when he had taken his daughter Beatrice to Pizza Express in Woking for a party before spending the night at home. “Going to Pizza Express in Woking is an unusual thing for me to do,” he said. “I remember it weirdly distinctly.” Ms Giuffre described him providing her with alcohol at a nightclub, but Prince Andrew said: “I don’t drink, I don’t think I’ve ever bought a drink in Tramps whenever I was there.”

On Virginia’s claims that he was sweaty: “I have a peculiar medical condition which is that I don’t sweat or I didn’t sweat at the time,” he said, blaming it on “an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War”. He said he had only started to be able to sweat again “in the recent past”.

On the photo of his arm around Virginia: He said he had “absolutely no memory” of it. “Investigations that we’ve done” have been unable to prove whether the photograph was faked, he said, “because it is a photograph of a photograph of a photograph”. Prince Andrew said he did not recall going upstairs in that house, said he was not dressed as he usually would be if he was in London and added “we can’t be certain as to whether or not that’s my hand… I’m at a loss to explain this particular photograph.”

Whether he partied with Epstein: The duke rejected the perception of him as “the party prince” in the past, and said “going to Jeffrey’s was not about partying, absolutely not”. He said he had first met Epstein through his girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell in 1999 but it was a “stretch” to say they were close friends and they saw each other “a maximum of three times a year”.

How close was he to Epstein? Prince Andrew acknowledged he had stayed on Epstein’s private island, visited his home in Palm Beach, Florida, and travelled on his private plane. He said he wanted to learn more about the “international business world and so that was another reason” for going to visit the 66-year-old American financier in New York, as the prince became special representative for international trade and investment. He invited Epstein to Princess Beatrice’s 18th birthday at Windsor Castle in July 2006 but said “certainly I wasn’t aware” that a warrant had been issued in May for his arrest for sex crimes.

Spending days in Epstein’s mansion in 2010: “I went there with the sole purpose of saying to him that because he had been convicted, it was inappropriate for us to be seen together.” He stayed several days and attended a dinner party, however. “It was a convenient place to stay,” he said, but added “with a benefit of all the hindsight that one can have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do”. The duke denied an account by another guest that he had been seen receiving a foot massage from a Russian woman. Asked about a picture of him and Epstein taken in Central Park in 2010, Prince Andrew said “somebody very cleverly took that photograph” but that they had not been able to “find any evidence” that Epstein had set it up.

How his family reacted to the Epstein situation: The fallout over Epstein’s arrest had been “a constant sore in the family”, the prince said. Following the allegations made against him in a 2015 deposition, Prince Andrew said the wider Royal Family “couldn’t be more supportive” and his immediate family “were at a loss”. The duke denied the episode had been damaging to the Queen, but said “it has to me, and it’s been a constant drip in the background that people want to know”. He said he would like to be able to give “closure” on the issue but “I’m just as much in the dark as many people”. He said that choosing to talk about the allegations was “almost a mental health issue to some extent for me”, adding that “it’s been nagging at my mind for a great many years”.

This moment right here: He refused to entirely disavow his relationship with Epstein, saying it had “some seriously beneficial outcomes” that were unrelated to the accusations against them both. “Do I regret the fact that he has quite obviously conducted himself in a manner unbecoming? Yes,” he said. After interviewer Emily Maitlis challenged him, describing Epstein as a sex offender, the duke said: “Yeah, I’m sorry, I’m being polite.”

[From The BBC]

Can you even imagine the palace brain trust who okayed this mess? From a PR perspective – not to mention, from a legal/criminal perspective – this was an absolute disaster. Reportedly, the Queen is “aware” that Andrew did the interview and he spoke to her ahead of time. This is how they do “damage control” – they send Andrew out to claim that he NEVER sweats (until recently) and he would never buy an underage girl a drink because he doesn’t pay for drinks and he would never pose with a trafficked girl on the second floor of Maxwell’s home, and he’s never been to the second floor and that’s why he knew where the photo was posed. Trafficking, abusing and raping children is “a manner unbecoming” and oh well, Epstein sure had a convenient townhome but he never saw anything there, or on the island or in Florida and it was all just business, nevermind all of the teenage girls giving him foot rubs which definitely never happened, so stop asking, you’re affecting his poor mental health. MY GOD.

I was going to put the vital clips here, but the BBC released the entire interview on YouTube, so just sit here in horror as you watch it.

Screencap courtesy of BBC.

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  1. Ela says:

    Watched the whole thing. There is nothing special about these people. They are stupid,pathetic and tawdry as anyone else. Really got to wonder why any British tax payer will be willing to pay even a cent towards them when this exposed just how ridiculous they are.

    • Eliza says:

      Because God specifically chose family blood lines over the centuries to kill each other for specific man-defined territories. I mean it’s obvious that a more German woman by descent without much formal education should be Queen of England after God meant for an abdication so it would go to her family line instead.

      It’s a ridiculous concept. I get why it’s hard to untangle now politically/ financially/ socially, especially as the Queen herself isn’t deeply unpopular and who wants to overthrow great-granny? But, I mean all this future King William and King George is silly… I can’t see it lasting another 20 years let alone 50.

    • Tanguerita says:

      all this, but also the entitlement! the whole interview reeks of it like a bloated corpse. that’s why he wasn’t prepped, never mentioned or showed any concern for the the victims, talked about this visit to pizza express as if it was absolutely beneath his dignity…
      rotten through and through.

      • BeanieBean says:

        How’d you like the part where he said he was just too honorable for his own good?

      • bettyrose says:

        Admittedly, I didn’t watch the whole thing, skipping ahead to about 30 minutes in, but I genuinely feel that the honest response to “did you rape a teenage girl” is never “I don’t recall” but “mygawd I would never do such a thing and would actively support legal action against anyone I suspected of such a monstrous crime.” But, you know, that’s just me.

      • Anance says:

        ‘the whole interview reeks of it like a bloated corpse’

        Andrew is abominable. His comparison of the girls at Epstein’s house to the staff at the palaces was a clear allusion to their status as prostitutes. The Queen shares his opinions.

        I glanced at the comments on “The Daily Mail” and the best rated EQUATED Andrew with Meghan! Obviously, the site’s social media team determined they could not defend “just the right this minute,” so they included an innocent, biracial woman as his equivalent.

        I hope Britain Brexits, splits apart into smaller and smaller states until it devolves to its circumstances in Saxon times.

      • Some chick says:

        I’m At a Loss, myself. (Not really, but it’s a convenient excuse!)

        All she has to do is let him talk! SMDH.

        Jeez, these people.

        Pizza! Quelle horreur!

        Poor Meghan. At least she has LOVE to keep her warm. I don’t know that there’s much of that to go ’round amongst the others.

      • Moe says:

        No expression of sympathy or remorse for victims

      • DaisySharp says:

        “Andrew is abominable. His comparison of the girls at Epstein’s house to the staff at the palaces was a clear allusion to their status as prostitutes. The Queen shares his opinions. ”

        YES. A thousand times yes! I am sooooo tired of this glorification of this woman. Of course she looks down on these young women as trollops, as “not our kind dear” as “showgirls”, whatever. Prostitutes. They are worthless to her! She is not a good person. Please, wake up.

        Down with the BRF! Get rid of it, get rid of it all!

    • Esme says:

      On the one hand, he’s so clearly incompetent, stupid, and out of touch that is easy to believe he was the patsy, the fall guy, the Royal insurance policy, that Epstein and Maxwell played him like a violin and he didn’t understand 90% of what was going on around him.
      On the other hand, he’s absolutely vile and I feel very sorry for his daughters, growing up with such a father. Thank God for nannies, really.
      He needs to be unofficially exiled to the remotest outpost they can think of, and never let out in public again.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Sure, he’s stupid, but note he did say the relationship was obviously beneficial to him. He knew what he was doing.

      • Sumodo1 says:

        All this, coinciding with The Crown, Series 3, showing now on Netflix. What timing!

    • Vava says:

      He sounds like a TOTAL PRICK.

      • Some chick says:


      • Victoria M. says:

        “I’m too honorable” he says. The arrogance, tone-deafness and egocenticism of this comment is astounding! How he managed to compliment himself, in this interview, given the context of his connection to a criminal is appalling! He actually complimented himself!

    • Whitecloud says:

      But their cultural and tourism value! *snickers* They’re spending nearly half a billion USD just to restore Buckingham Palace. Meanwhile their national health system is in shambles (stories out every other day) and one in three UK kids live in multidimensional poverty. I’m starting to believe maybe just a teeny weeny bit David Icke’s crazy stories about how staging dark rituals (black magic) help keep the elite in power – and the populace stupid. Because a quick perusal of the comment section on the DM reveal the vast majority LOVE and respect the Queen, and you just wonder how they could in the face of the numbers and the facts…

      • Gru says:

        Child poverty in England is particularly heart breaking. The rain causes heinous mold and living indoors is a biohazard. Outdoors is equally unsafe- how can the people of GB support a slime ball like Andrew, when a whole generation grow ill through no fault of their own?

      • Estonian Bot says:

        The ultra rich have the right to hoard as much wealth as possible because it’s good for the economy and the common good. Only a dirty commie would disagree.

        *I’m being sarcastic of course.

      • Some chick says:

        It’s not “dark rituals.” It’s called economics.

      • Whitecloud says:

        I was an eco major so I’m aware there are all kinds of economic theories spanning “left” to “right.” Yet there’s no economic theory or theoretical system that values inequality, royalty, or the concentration of wealth in an elite, in itself. Economics at its heart is about the efficient allocation of resources for the general good. A lot of schools of economic are, in fact, heavily in favour of heavy regulation esp taxation. Saying it’s just “economics” is yet another way to hijack economics for a dark purpose.
        She needs to open the books, inventory everything, and be willing to hold a conversation about how much of their wealth should move into the CONTROL of the UK’s ELECTED government (95%? 98%?), the parliament, for public use, like keeping kids out of poverty. The British monarchy should move into the background once the wealth is returned to the public, to be managed smartly for the pubic weal. Then she’ll truly be a great, modern queen.

        I’m really curious how much of Rio Tinto she reallly owns. She’s far, far wealthier than commonly understood. And how many outfits does she have? All tailor made and never worn more than a few times. You need about three Buckinghams to keep all her clothes.

    • grumpy says:

      We have no choice. We can hardly have a referendum can we, we aren’t intelligent enough to know what we are voting for.

  2. Digital Unicorn says:

    I refused to watch it as I knew it would be worse than a train wreck. This will haunt him and the RF for years to come and the damage its causing and will continue to cause will be irreparable. TQ will rue the day she agreed to this, esp as his lies will be easy to disprove.

    Who the hell thought it would be the bestest idea EVER to go on TV and say that you can’t remember a photo being taken and then use your daughter as a shield to say that you were somewhere else when the evidence says otherwise. He is clearly going to stick to the ‘photo is fake’ BS – didn’t he say years ago that he only met her briefly when posing for the photo? He’s gone from admitting to posing for the photo to saying its a fake.

    Its pretty much being panned EVERYWHERE – now we know why his PR person quit.

    Andrew is guilty as fk, this interview proves it and it also proves that he thinks he’s untouchable and that regardless of what else comes out he’s going to get away with it (he thinks he will). And as for his ex-wife she will say or do anything to keep access to the money and to cover her own ass as she is in just as deep as he is.

    The French gov need to release what they have on him – they’ve hinted at it as they want to speak to him as well.

    Lastly cue more stories throwing the Sussex’s under the bus.

    • Babs says:

      At this point, any story about the Sussexes just highlights and reinforces the reason they’re staying as far away from Sandringham as possible. If the palace goes the usual way of let’s throw the Sussexes under the bus, then they are stupidier that I thought.

      • Mego says:

        I’m thinking of the hateful straight outta Compton headline in the Daily Hate when it was revealed that Harry was dating Meghan. Let me tell ya I’d rather spend my Christmas with the good citizens of Compton than the BRF in Sandringham. 😒

      • Some chick says:

        <3 Mego!!!

      • xo says:

        What are they (the press) thinking? Surely the Sussex’s are capable of generating great good will towards the RF. And, in these times – given the uncertainty of popular opinion going forward – that would be a great advantage. . . .

    • Moose says:

      Thankfully more and more people are calling out BRF & BM for their treatment of H&M in comparison to the treatment of Andrew who is very clearly guilty af following that interview…

      Andrew’s PR person has admitted today that he resigned because of that interview as Andrew wouldn’t listen to him and wanted to do it to “clear the air”. What a nonce….

      • Tia says:

        Literally! (‘Nonce’ is slang for paedophile for the benefit of anyone who doesn’t know that piece of U.K. slang).

      • Mego says:

        The media should be called out and held accountable for their abusive treatment of Harry and Meghan period. Serious questions should be raised as to why there was so little media attention paid to Andrew’s alleged criminal behaviour.

        If the BRF were feeding the media lies about Harry and Meghan as a diversion tactic like some of us suspect they are beyond the pale.

      • Lady D says:

        Thanks for the translation, Tia:)

      • xo says:

        From what I’ve observed, I’d say the press has successfully turned public opinion against Meghan in the 50+ demographic in the UK.

        Younger people feel differently.

    • says:

      Well it’s not as if his PR guy had much to work with before this…

  3. Becks1 says:

    Pizza express???? That’s his excuse???

    He’s such a POS.

    • Nic919 says:

      The only fun part of this mess has been reading the reviews for the pizza express in Woking. People obviously see through his lies. The police should be interviewing him as well.

    • Chelle says:

      No. What would be the most gross and nastiest thing ever is IF he did have sex with Virginia Guiffre on that day then took his daughters out for pizza after.

      • Mtec says:

        If that alibi ends up being true, how much you wanna bet that’s exactly what he did.

      • BeanieBean says:

        That didn’t occur to me, but I bet that’s what happened. Vile.

      • Coco says:

        That is a total narc thing to do. Because he leaves the meeting her part out and says he went to pizza express in his creepy kid he not technically lying.

    • Snappyfish says:

      Don’t forget he doesn’t sweat…”To much adrenaline from the Falkland War” (remember I was a war HERO!!)

      What a POS & to give Charles his due, he was right to crowd him off the balcony & into the background years ago

      • Whitecloud says:

        Exactly, he brought up the Falklands War for a reason. And that war was about oil and gas, yet another reminder of empire.

    • heygingersnaps says:

      I wish Pizza Express would release something about them not wanting to have anything to do with his narrative. He is utterly disgusting, arrogant and self entitled.

    • Becks1 says:

      I’m watching it now. Yikes. It’s mind blowing how bad this is.

  4. S808 says:

    This will be a PR case study one day. He has to be working against advice because he obviously was not prepped (which in and of itself I have trouble wrapping my mind around) and no PR professional worth a damn would’ve agreed to this. I don’t even know where to begin in picking this interview apart. An absolute train wreck from start to finish. He has to do some jail time. something, ANYTHING.

    • Nic919 says:

      His spin doctor quit last week I believe. An article from Tim Shipman states it was Andrew’s private secretary pushing for this interview. She doesn’t know what she’s doing obviously.

      • Belli says:

        Or she does and knew he’d incriminate himself and that was the aim all along.

        I don’t know anything about his private secretary, so I don’t know whether that’s being too generous.

      • notasugarhere says:

        How long has the private secretary been in the job? Anyone worth their salt would have pushed against doing this interview.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Adding, anyone worth their salt wouldn’t choose to work for Andrew.

      • Mego says:

        I suspect he was well advised not to do this but like the old commercial says “you can’t tell a Heinz pickle nothing.”

    • Ninks says:

      There are reports saying that his PR person quit because of this interview, that he had advised against it but Andy insisted so the guy quit. Which says everything, really.

      • S808 says:

        Not surprised at all. I wouldn’t want my name anywhere near that dumpster fire.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Well, it is not for nothing that Andrew is called His Buffoon Highness by certain parts of the diplomatic corps. He’s infamous for refusing to take advice. He’s so pompous, arrogant and stupid that he thinks that he doesn’t need any advice (or any prep). This interview is him in a nutshell – and I bet he has no idea how bad he made himself look. Because he is just THAT stupid and entitled.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      At least this interview has convinced more people of his guilt. There’s no way any reasonable person could watch yesterday’s dumpster fire and still think he had nothing more than an innocent association with Epstein.

    • NewKay says:

      There’s actually a pizza express box in the picture he took with Victoria I believe and Jeff Epsteins ‘madam’. So he was there, he was in both places.

  5. Babs says:

    The entire slow motion train wreck of an interview has been up on YouTube for almost 24 hrs now. I can’t believe Andrew agreed to this, he must be such an arrogant person, my goodness. Chuckie must be absolutely seething, this has entirely overshadowed his trip, LOL,😂😂 I’ll say this though, serves them right for how horrendously they’ve treated the Sussexes.

  6. says:

    If you need to scrub your brain after watching that, go look up the reviews people are posting about the pizza place now…

    • Ponytail says:

      Pizza Express’s Twitter handler is having a good time too!

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Twitter was on form last night – that tweet from the official Pizza Express twitter account with the bottle of red wine was hilarious.

  7. Thais says:

    Don’t worry, the palace aides will figure out how to pin this all on Meghan somehow.

    • spookie says:

      🙄 🙄

      • Silas says:

        Yeah, Spookie. That’s the important takeaway, that it’s silly to think that Harry and Meghan are being used as scapegoats to diffuse the attention on Andrew and the Queen for protecting him.

    • BlueSky says:

      Waiting for the next “Meghan is a scheming conniving diva” story in 3….2…1…..

      • Giddy says:

        Oh yes, because her “Suits” makeup person’s oldest brother’s girlfriend’s cousin once took a belly dancing lesson, so it’s obviously all Meghan’s fault.

      • Moose says:

        Pagan Trelawney on twitter has some great made-up headlines…

    • HK9 says:

      Sad thing is I think your right. They clearly are not bright enough to realize how much trouble Andrew is in and focus on getting him out of that. Side note, I follow Fergie on IG and she had a post up a few days ago pledging her support to him. I thought, wow, the best thing to do would be to carry on as usual and support him in private. It came off as being desperate and out of touch. I feel sorry for their daughters because they’ve done nothing to deserve this and will have to live with this for a long long time.

      • olive says:

        fergie IS desperate and out of touch. she seems to still carry a torch for andrew and really wants to be part of the BRF again.

  8. Rogue says:

    The interview was an unmitigated disaster. He was so clearly lying&contradicted himself in a way that begs the met police to actually open an investigation. He brought his daughters in as alibis for the first incident with Virginia. The no sweating, not being a party boy, not taking affectionate pictures with members of the public, him& Fergie not leaving their daughters without one parent defence is easily dispelled with a quick google search.

    He also couldn’t have come across as more entitled& less empathetic to Epstein’s victims. For all you ‘optics’ folks- Andrew is your guy as he seemed more concerned about being seen with Epstein than what he had done which he just called “unbecoming”. His explanation of sex for men as a “positive act” was both telling& toe-curdling. The charities& initiatives he mentioned will want to distance themselves like they are trying to do with the Queen (who Emily said approved the interview directly). I have no idea why anyone thought it was a good idea to do this.

    Emily Mathis said they had been speaking to the palace for over a year. My guess is Eugenie’s wedding was meant to be a showcase& start of good PR for Andrew culminating with a BTS doc of his work etc as think he turns 60 next year. But questions over Epstein shifted focus so he decided to address allegations head on.

    Interesting that todays Time has piece from respected political journalist that Andrew’s office think William’s office leaked story about staff bust up to the Fail.

    • Babs says:

      IKR,? About that William/KP leaking stories about family members to distract from William own shit, 😂😂😂. The Sussexes just need to sit back and let these two camps have at it.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        William has taken a leaf out of Daddy’s book as Chuck often leaked things about the Yorks and Wessex’s to distract from his marital woes and to make himself look better.

      • Onlyashes85 says:

        I read that, too.


      • Rapunzel says:

        IDK if I buy KP leaking stuff about Andrew… I think it’s possible that Andrew’s office could just be leaking that to change the narrative from this interview.

        Or maybe KP is legitimately disturbed by Andrew and leaking for that reason? William may be a cheat and a jerk but he’s probably moral enough to loathe this behavior of Andrew’s.

        Or I’m too generous. IDK.

        I’ll be intrigued to see if the Cambridges don’t also skip Sandringham this year. I’ll also be interested to see if Andrew shows…or if he goes into hiding.

      • chunkyla says:

        My first thought was KP know that Andrew and Fergie have been leaking stories about the Cambridge vs Sussex fall out and over exaggerating some of them to take the heat off Andrew’s involvement in the Epstein Scandal, so KP got their own back by leaking stuff about Andrew.

        It wouldn’t surprise me if Andrew and Fergie leaked the Rose affair to distract from Andrew as well.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Catherine Quinn has quit as Kate’s private sec, that broke yesterday – so I can see why they may have leaked the story about Andrew’s PR person. The Fail story has a lot of snark in it – esp about how Quinn has been instrumental in helping Kate with her ‘early years’ work – WHAT early years work?!?!?!

        Quinn is apparently leaving as she wants to focus on other ‘challenges’. I guess getting Katie Keen to do any work was too much of a challenge.

      • morrigan01 says:

        It’s been said for years that William is a lot more shady and sly, hasn’t it?

        I’m putting my tin foil hat on and saying, I think the Sussexes probably knew/know some stuff that is coming and want to be far away from the RF when a lot more stuff starts coming out. In that South Africa Doc, Harry *did* say something to the effect of “if people only knew what I know” or something like that. He might very well have been talking about whatever might be going on with William that William wants to hide (the supposed Rose affair?), and now this stuff with Andrew. Which we may not have even heard the worst of yet.

        I didn’t watch it, but people said Harry had a dark look on his face at the Royal Albert Hall Remembrance Day thing when looking at Andrew (who was sitting next to Boris Johnson). I really think Harry knows Andrew is guilty AF, and has known for a few months now – hence why no confirmation that he and Meghan ever went to Balmoral, if they even did. (Whereas Andrew got a ride to church photo op with The Queen – the day after Epstein was found dead too IIRC). And now one of the reasons why Christmas won’t be spent with the RF either (though yes, Doria should get her own visit anyway where she doesn’t have to deal with the British Press).

        Also, I think Harry and Meghan know their lawsuits are going to unearth a lot of shady stuff when it comes to the RF too when/if this goes into open court. We knows for a fact they went the lawsuit route because, as Harry said, they weren’t going to play the press game. Well, what if the game doesn’t just involve trying to kiss up to the press, but leaking stories against other Royal households to try and make themselves look better like what seems to be happen with William/KP and the Yorks? The minute Harry and Meghan’s lawsuit dropped, apparently people like Quinn began to leave KP from what I understand, it wasn’t just a recent thing from something I saw said on twitter.

        Anyway, those are my tinfoil thoughts.

      • Nic919 says:

        Tim Shipman is a political reporter and not a royal reporter. He doesn’t need to play nice with the royals for any information and so any story coming from him is as accurate as you can get in this circumstance. He wouldn’t be reporting what Andrew wants because the rest of his story is extremely scathing about Andrew and his staff.

      • Lexa says:

        @ChunkyLA I agree with you it could be in retaliation for a Sussex/Cambridge story and/or possibly trading that to kill an unflattering story about him and Harry, especially since it was right around the time (early September) people were starting to speculate about a move to America for Harry and Meghan. Charlotte Wace wrote one of those pieces a week before she wrote the initial one about Andrew.

        People are making an understandable logic leap with the original April Tim Shipman piece that talks about Will meeting with newspapers to prepare for kingship—Shipman never specifies which “palace” (Kensington/Buckingham or even Clarence House) was driving the negative stories about Meghan and her father, likely to protect his source. I’ve always interpreted that more as Will going along with the company line and not protecting Harry when Harry needed it most (because it’s clear that there’s been a coordinated effort between BP/CH/KP to be more press friendly in the lead up to Charles taking over, hence no support from them over the lawsuit and statement from the Sussexes).

        I *also* would believe that Will wants Andrew out before he kills the future of the monarchy. I personally think that there’s some reason Charles isn’t making more of a move to force Andrew out that Will isn’t beholden to, so it falls to him. The fact is, all of them should be leaking against Andrew in a bid to force him into retirement.

        @Digital Unicorn—I don’t think Friday’s announcement that Catherine Quinn leaving in December has anything to do with this…? The Andrew story was from September 7th. The Catherine Quinn news was also broken by a different reporter than the Andrew story.

      • Nic919 says:

        Tim Shipman has a new story this weekend talking about the involvement of KP courtiers in terms of leaking Andrew stories. He is specific about it being from KP. I’m not referring to April at all but this new story.

      • Lexa says:

        @Nic919 True, but I guess to be fair what the article actually says is “Andrew’s team accused a senior figure in Prince William’s office of leaking stories about him to the press” which doesn’t necessarily prove that the aide did, just that Andrew’s team believed it was him or her. Removing motivations from the equation, I still can’t get that mad about people leaking unflattering stories about him because it’s the least of what he deserves.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Now it will be spun as William the great moralist of the royal family.

      • PrincessK says:

        The timing of Quinn’s departure is interesting, as with the sacking of the other staff member. I always wondered how long somebody of Quinn’s calibrate would last trying to make Kate look good and acting like a lady in waiting during engagements.

        I think she is leaving now because of revelations and recriminations which will unfold in 2020.

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t think anyone feels bad for leaks about Andrew committing crimes, but Shipman’s article confirms that William’s people are leaking to the press and it is extremely unlikely it was only about Andrew.

    • S808 says:

      If KP is leaking stories about everyone I’m wondering just what the hell they’re hiding.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        It means that the rumours that there has been more than one affair that the press knows about ring true. I’m convinced that he and Kate pretty much lead separate lives and thats what else they are trying to cover up. Kate’s in London with the kids and her mother and he’s in Norfolk living it up as a bachelor tending the Rose bushes.

        I also would not be surprised if they are also trying to cover the dodgy financials about Party Pieces. Story is Carole has been looking for a buyer for a while but no one will touch it, even with the touted royal connections.

        The Cambridge’s have a lot of dirt they want to hide.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Whatever it is, he’s clearly panicked about it possibly going public. Everyone already heard about Rose, so I wonder what else is there…

      • notasugarhere says:

        It does beg the question of what else W&K are trying to hide.

      • Jumpingthesnark says:

        Quinn was a serious career professional , with a strong business background of some kind coming in to KP, no? If she is leaving, more signs that things are really going downhill. Maybe W and K were ignoring her advice and/or things getting so toxic with the Andy situation that she doesn’t want to be associated with it when it blows up even more. Andys dpjn doctot apparently felt the same

      • Anance says:

        “It does beg the question of what else W&K are trying to hide.”

        Digital Unicorn has touched on the ones we’ve glimpsed fleetingly: Rose, Middleton finances, separate lives. Fully airing any of these scandals would destroy Will’s family-man image, which is all he has. Nothing else. Prince Charles, however misguided, managed some accomplishments before age 40.

        I think there is something else, as well. Recently an old courtier published memoirs where he mentioned that William was insufferably grand, even before his mother’s death. What KP is hiding, IMO, is the sheer unpleasantness of William’s personality, a catalog of unlikable behavior and unsavory associates.

    • Talie says:

      It’s clear William will back up his father in cutting Andrew out once the Queen no longer has a say. Unfortunately for him, it won’t be so easy with Harry, especially after Andrew just drew such a stark contrast in what a real disgrace to this family looks like.

      • Chelle says:

        Charles should really press mummy into making Andrew retire from public life until things blow over in say 10 – 15 years. These are tumultuous times. Even she can’t shield Andrew from this as a mother or a monarch.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Chelle: I don’t think this is going to blow over & with Andrew nearing 60, retirement now means retirement forever.

    • Kk2 says:

      That thing about sex being a positive act for men was, i thought, the worst and most telling part of this whole interviews. first of all, what a misogynistic and gross thing to say. Second, he is literally saying he would have remembered if he had sex with this (underage, trafficked) teenager because it would have been a positive thing for him. I mean, that’s about all you need to know right there.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yeah, that certainly is one of the grossest, most telling statements of this interview. Lack of action on the part of the BRF after this will be their downfall, no doubt about it.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, that statement was so absurd , and it will not be forgotten and tells much about his character.

      • Nic919 says:

        That statement sounds like something a rapist would say. No concept of consent or active participation by the other party is even considered. Frankly it is scary as hell that he said that.

      • Snigs says:

        1000x agreed. Disgusting and disturbing.

  9. Aurora says:

    I think he saw the sympathy and praise the Sussexes got for their candid interview and tried to go for the same effect. The difference is the Sussexes were being sincere and they aren’t pedophiles.

    It’s clear Andy is used to White Male Privilege which basically allows him to succeed in spite of mediocrity. I’ll bet he was advised not to do the interview but arrogantly thought he had it in the bag because of his imagined wit and charm. I’m glad it blew up in his face.

    It has also come out that he attacked one of Williams aides because he believed Kensington Palace was leaking stories to him about the press. Between all the time KP spends leaking about Andy and the Sussexes it no wonder they have no time for actual work.

    • Kittycat says:

      Prince Andrew’s White Male Privilege is 1000 time stronger than the regular white man.

      Literally from birth he’s lived a privileges life where he has no view of reality.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Also, the fact that he’s reprotely the Queen’s favorite child probably contributed to his ego HUGELY. So someone who was born into a privilege lifestyle PLUS got preferential treatment on top of that? Ugh.

        I always got the vibe that Andrew has always thought HE should be King after his mother is gone, not Charles, and has kinda tried to just will it into being or something. Man clearly thinks he’s more popular than he ever actually was in reality I suspect. And I truly believe HE is the one who leaked that false story about Meghan thrown a fit over not getting to wear the emerald tiara.

        It’s clear Meghan and Harry’s popularity pushes his buttons IMO, Meghan’s popularity especially. And no, I actually don’t think it has to do with race when it comes to Andrew, so much as I really think he has a deep attachment to the whole aristocracy hierarchy class stuff. Hell, I think it’s one of the reasons he gave this dumpster fire interview. He’s ego couldn’t take the fact that he, a BLOOD Prince, was being shunned and losing social standing, while the American girl who married in was getting love, praise and support after that South Africa interview and doc.

        Oh well. “Pride goeth before a fall” and all that.

    • notasugarhere says:

      You’d think his staff would quit in disgust or be so on his side they wouldn’t leak to KP. This is the same man who did the gate-crashing drive through Windsor Great Park because he was angry he had to take a one mile detour. Park staff refer to him as Mr Toad because he frequently drives like a maniac.

    • Lexa says:

      I don’t think he attacked one of William’s aides (though maybe had at other times, who knows)–the DM identified the aide in question as Tony Johnstone-Burt who is Master of the Household for The Queen.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Right, what Shipman wrote was Andrew’s office was upset with a senior member of William’s office over that story of Andrew raging out on someone at BP. Not that the person Andrew allegedly raged at was one of William’s aides.

  10. Eliza says:

    I couldn’t even read this all, let alone watch. The hubris. He really thinks we’re all that stupid?

    Why do people keep telling us how great they are when showing the opposite? Yes you’re a leech who likes free things so kept in touch with a convicted pedo. Yes you had illegal relations with a minor (whether you remember her or not, whether you knew her age or not, doesn’t matter). Just go to jail already.

    • My3cents says:

      That was the first word that came to my kind as well ” Hubris”.
      Let his hubris be his downfall.
      This is some Greek tragedy shit, let’s hope for an appropriate Greek tragedy ending as well.

  11. Eleonor says:

    He hired a spin doctor, correct me if I am wrong: the spin doctor quit after a month.
    I can totally see why.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      The spin doctor ran for the hills before word of this interview destroyed his career.

    • Jaded says:

      The spin doctor was adamant that Prince Pervert NOT do the interview. Clearly PP does not take direction from anyone and committed the biggest blunder of his useless life. I feel so sorry for his daughter, she’s going to have to elope. More sh*t is going to hit the fan in the coming months and nothing the Queen does (or not) or that lying sack of poop Fergie says is going to mitigate his certain come-down.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yep, I think Beatrice’s best options are to elope or have the family of her husband-to-be pick up the tab for the wedding in Italy or some other country.

  12. Beech says:

    I enjoyed, ie, laughed through the Datalounge thread on the PA interview. They showed no mercy. None. Zip. Nada.

    • Olenna says:

      I could only watch a few short takes from the interview because he’s such a disgusting, lying mess and his sense of entitlement is no laughing matter. But, I did get a few chuckles from this Twitter thread: . #NonceUponaTime, ha!

      • Noodle says:

        There is a blog I read called “Eyes for Lies”, written by a woman who is a “human lie detector.” One of the things she does is watch interviews or news stories and then point out instances where the person’s words or movements defy what they are saying. It’s a really interesting read, and provides insight for me personally (lacking a human lie detector skill) when I watch these stories. In at least five different places in this <1 minute clip, he is clearly lying based on his words and movements. His over explanations, his saying “Yes” before stating his piece, and his body movements, taken altogether, clearly defy what he “truth” he is peddling. I mean, we all know he’s lying, but it’s interesting to see confirmation of those lies through this interview. He clearly was not prepped by a professional (like someone who prepares witnesses or the accused for questioning in a trial) to answer these questions without the truth leaking out in everything he does and says. Yet another example of his ego and hubris at work.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Ha! ‘Post-traumatic sweat disorder’!

      • Olenna says:

        @Noodle, I need to check that lady out. My internal BS meter is pretty good but I could always use a few pointers.
        @BeanieBean, this one almost did me in (i.e., dead):

    • BayTampaBay says:

      DataLounge is great for getting the real read of a certain segment of the public. The DL crowd does not like Meghan but they dislike Cathy Cambridge just as much so both are constantly being called out for real mistakes.

  13. Lara says:

    To the tune of The Grand Old Duke of York…

    The Dirty Old Duke of York
    Didn’t sweat like normal men
    He knew Jeffrey liked young girls
    But stayed friends until 2010

  14. Powermoonchrystal says:

    I mean, all sensible people saw this disaster of an interview coming from a mile away once it was announced. I wonder what they can make up on the Sussex to make this go away. Another tiara story? But this time Meghan took it straight off the hands of poor Kate, which caused William to have a stern and concerned talk with Harry? They should probably ask the people of The Crown to write a good, salascious plot.

    • Mego says:

      It’s too bad the tiara story isn’t one refuted by the lawyers. At least it wasn’t in the piece I read on Byline Investigates. Nor was the one about making Kate cry.

      • MsIam says:

        Didn’t KP already say last year that the Crying Kate story wasn’t true? They put out a statement right after it was in the papers. As for the tiara, it looks like both Meghan and Eugenie wanted the Emerald tiara. I wouldn’t put it past Andrew & Fergie to spin it into some type of drama. I’ve always felt they were leakers, even more so than KP.

      • morrigan01 says:

        IIRC, I think the tiara story and the making Kate cry story was published in The Sun. The ones being refuted by her lawyers are all from the Daily Mail/Mail Online/Mail of Sunday. So I think the focus is just on those Daily Fail publications right now.

      • Mego says:

        Thanks Morrigan01! I knew there was a reason why and that’s exactly it.

  15. Eyfalia says:

    Good, very good, I think this interview is the best thing the RF could do. It shows their mental state and how they tick. Thank you Andrew for exposing yourself. He is painfully stupid, arrogant and horrible. And he is not the only one, others share these characteristics. The Queen does and William as well. All three live in their little bubbles, have no contact with reality and believe the heck of themselves.

    Thank you Andrew for showing the world what an idiot you are. I hope this will blow up this outdated and old-fashioned monarchy and makes way for something new and more attached to reality. I am glad, that Meghan does not fit in with them. She is so incredibly good, a wonderful and lovely human being.

    • Kittycat says:


    • Moose says:

      He has opened the door the idiot, the papers are all over him now whereas before they were relatively quiet, so much evidence out there to contradict his lies..

      #princeandrew is a great read!

  16. Bookworm says:

    This pig is afraid there is more evidence out there so he thinks he’s better off to say he has no recollection of any encounters with Virginia. He doesn’t say it didn’t happen, just that he doesn’t remember. It’s not working, Sweaty.

    • Tourmaline says:


      I assume that although Newsnight said this was no holds barred, they were barred from asking about a major part of the Epstein connection, which was that he was paying off some debts of Sarah Ferguson. This was the official explanation In the past for why Andrew was meeting with him in NYC after his jail sentence. Of course it was always ridiculous sounding that a convicted sex offender had to be sought for what was reported to be a 15,000 payment to a supposed former PA of Sarah’s named Johnny, when just a few years later Andrew and Sarah were solvent enough to splash out millions on a luxury Swiss chalet.

      But no questions last night on the money angle. Interesting

      • notasugarhere says:

        Fergie’s creditors want to know where where her half of the chalet payment came from, but were never able to force an answer. I assumed it was paid for by more of their shady friends, like the one who bought Sunninghill Park. Or Paddy McNally might have paid for Fergie’s half. He was going to buy her a house there 20 years ago when she was going to move to Switzerland with B&E.

      • Tourmaline says:

        I theorize that when those photos of Andrew and Epstein chatting in NYC came out, Fergie volunteered to take the heat by saying, my heroic Prince was merely trying to help me with debts. The amounts and details never made sense. If Paddy McNally could buy Fergie a chalet he could handle a 15K debt. It made sense then for Fergie to take the fall because these photos were taken around the time she was caught on tape begging suitcases of cash in exchange for access to Andrew.

        I have no doubt Epstein was somehow giving cash to Andrew and Fergie however. They are professional grifters and the grift has now gone on about a quarter century longer than their actual marriage. Heck Fergie was doing some grift (ahem.. charity visit) in Saudi Arabia just this week.

    • PrincessK says:

      More revelations about the money are coming out, and the fact that BOTH Beatrice and Eugenie flew in Epstein’s jet and stayed on his island. Yet Andrew claims that he and Epstein were not close friends.

    • Mignionette says:

      @Bookworm I agree. He was very careful to outright deny things bc essentially he would then be impeaching himself should other evidence comes to light.

      Notice that the press are also playing cat and mouse with him like they did with the video of him staying with Epstein after he claimed he was not that close to Epstein.

      This whole interview was a car crash as others have mentioned. Andrew should have just sat down and ate his Pizza. Now the world knows what a sleazy, nasty entitled pedophile he is. He has made it ever so easy for the French to release their files on him and there after the FBI will follow suit. Essentially no one wants to be seen to be the cause of his downfall, but once a few bricks start to tumble the whole house will come down…

  17. Cidy says:

    This was horrifying, mostly because you could almost see him reciting lies as lines as he talked, like he had been practicing in the mirror.

    I would be furious if my tax dollars were funding any part of this lifestyle, he is clearly a lying sex offender! And yet, I guarentee there are people out there who will believe him, because people dont ever believe women.

    I also just feel horrible for the poor women involved, they are victims going against the literal Royal Family. I hope they know how much support they have from the public and that we believe them.

    #believewomen #abolishthemonarchy

  18. Guest2.0 says:

    What a buffoon. White male aristocratic privilege at its finest. I hope something major is about to drop that will expose all his lies. And I hope this interview gets international coverage and exposure so everyone can see this joke of a prince.

  19. Mtec says:

    It’s amazing how he can have such clear memory for an alibi that happened 18yrs ago, but is so confused and cant remember one thing from a picture of himself in his friend’s home where he’s been multiple times.

    Selective memory is so convenient.

  20. Beach Dreams says:

    The way he kept interrupting her and talking in circles was embarrassing. When he started on his little “I don’t sweat” excuse, it was apparent that he was just throwing out everything he could. It’s funny how he has such a good memory for damn near everything except meeting (and abusing) Virginia.

  21. Ivy says:

    This was such a disaster. My favorite part was when the interviewer said “and now epstein is dead” and Andrew laughs and goes “Yeah!”

    How relieved he must have been by the news…

    • notasugarhere says:

      There were many, many powerful people who were relieved by the news of that death. So many career-destroying secrets went to the grave.

  22. Talie says:

    I kind of have a new theory about Meghan and Harry making their sudden departure from Christmas this week. Is it possible the contents of this interview were circulating around the Palace and they made the decision that they just didn’t want to be associated with Andrew and his drama to close out an already tense year for them?

    I mean, there’s no way the Queen will bow to public pressure and retire him. He’ll be right there at Sandringham by her side despite that interview being a total freakshow. In fact, that interview put into perspective just how hysterically stupid Meghan and Harry have treated for their supposed “crimes”.

    • Guest2.0 says:

      The fact that the media and RRs keep equating M&H’s “alleged crimes and misbehavior” to what Andrew has done seems even more preposterous now. This truly exposes the smearing campaign against H&M for what it truly is.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, it really angers me when journalists and trolls mention Meghan and Harry in the same breath as Andrew and conflate them together as contributing to the woes of the Queen and Royal Family.

      • MsIam says:

        That Dickie Arbiter person was the worst saying how the Queen was so upset that these senior royals were giving these poor interviews to the press. Then he goes on to link Harry’s documentary interview and Andrew’s sh!t show interview. Hello! Harry’s interview was about the intrusion of and harassment by the press. Andrew is trying to justify his associations and participation with a sex offender. Not the same thing Dickie!

    • Ela says:

      Also shows how smart they are, as everyone else will have to suck it up and be pictured around him. But cue, stories about a sombre looking Kate and how she always does her duty, no matter how distasteful it is. And while I am not a Kate fan, I truly believe she is the one person after Meghan who, should not in any way, be associated with this mess.

      • Mego says:

        I disagree. Kate can suck it. She has had a very good year in the press at the great expense of her biracial sister-in-law and not said a work in her defence. She is disgusting.

    • Chelle says:

      I actually think this is in part why they didn’t go to Balmoral in the summer. Andrew had probably popped in to pedal his sh*t to QEII. She had her hands full with that and no one could find hip boots small enough to fit little Archie’s feet.

    • Nev says:

      That’s exactly why they are not staying for the holiday.

      Duchess was like hell naw peace out.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Harry and Meghan, yet another time, look like the smartest members of this family. They won’t be there for the make-nice, pretend you can stomach him Christmas pap walk. Excellent excuse, having spent the past two years with the royals.

      • PrincessK says:

        Well people do say that Meghan has a higher IQ than all of the Royal Family members put together.

      • Nic919 says:

        I wouldn’t be surprised if they spend the holidays with the Middletons this year. They were supposed to last year as was hinted in that interview with Carole. Of course the media won’t attack them for it.

    • GreenGirl says:

      Oh, I don’t think H&M even needed to see parts of the interview. All they had to hear was “Andrew did an interview with a notable journalist, and his PR is in shambles” and thought they’d be better off being literally anywhere else on earth except Sandringham.

      And maybe the plan all along was to be home at Frogmore, anyway. In their shoes, I would be worried that even just smiling at him while walking to church would be misconstrued as some sort of approval or show of support.

      • Babs says:

        Personally, I think the Sussexes have been disassociating themselves from this disaster for quite a while now. They did not go to Balmoral, and to me that’s the indicator they wanted nothing to do with Andrew or with anyone associated with Andrew, period.

  23. Kittycat says:

    I don’t know what prince Andrew was thinking.

    When asked about staying at Epstein’s house after Epstein was convicted he said “it was a convenient place to stay”.

    In what universe would a person say that?

    • Mtec says:

      Yeah and just before that how he says he went to visit Epstein IN PERSON to tell him he thought it was a bad idea to be seen together—cause it makes sense to take a flight to tell someone (you’re supposedly not close to) you cant see them anymore in person. Right… and then like you said, proceeds to stay with him and party for days.

      It’s interesting how he doesn’t see how he contradicts himself in the same thought—almost like he can’t keep his lies straight.

      • Ela says:

        I think it was a tweet by Carol Voderman, that summed it up perfectly. He didn’t speak to Epstein for 4 years but once Epstein was released from prison, he visited Epstein personallly to tell him that he is still not going to speak to him.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, his story is full of contradictions. I believe he went to New York to get some assurances from Epstein and Andrew thought the walk in the park conversation was safer than having it in the house which could be wired. But Epstein is not dumb and made sure they were caught on camera. Andrew Is thoroughly stupid.

    • Marjorie says:

      Epstein’s house was the largest private residence in New York City, so it was fit for a Prince of High Rank, and it was free. Plus, you know, foot massages.

      I read somewhere that Andrew once walked into a posh club lounge and when no one stood up in deference, he said, ok, let’s try this again, and left the room and re-entered. That’s who this a$$hole thinks he is.

    • Lucylee says:

      So with access to millions of dollars he has to crash at Epstein’s pad because he can’t get a room. Hell, hotels would have kicked people out or put them up elsewhere to make room for him. He thinks people are incapable of thinking logically.

      • PrincessK says:

        But Andrew doesn’t have access to millions of dollars. His friendship with Epstein was all to do with money and the access to women was just the side extra.

    • MC2 says:

      If you buy everything PA is saying—-he doesn’t care if a friend is a convicted pedophile & will still take a walk, have dinner with them & stay at their house. This alone should make him fly out the window of the palace to never return. How could he think THIS is honorable in society?!

  24. Ainsley7 says:

    The thing I found most interesting was his body language. It was easy to tell when he was completely making something up (shaking his head no when saying yes, looking up and to the right also usually indicates lying or imagining, and becoming more animated). So, when he wasn’t lying it showed that Epstein originally befriended him to use him as a shield. I don’t think Andrew knew until it was “too late.” I’m not saying he is even a little innocent. He clearly embraced the situation after he found out, but I do think Epstein used Andrew’s stupidity against him repeatedly. I knew he wasn’t very smart, but like seriously? Who came up with the idea to make him a trade ambassador? He should have been kept strictly on ribbon cutting duties. It would have been the only way to keep him out of trouble.

  25. sickwilly says:

    Too bad the interviewer didn’t ask him why he’s been banned from so many countries, including Thailand, where underage sex trafficking is so prolific. Randy’s every bit as rapey as Epstein, and I think Sarah Ferguson figured it out early on in their marriage & used it as leverage to continue funding her lifestyle.

    • Jaded says:

      Correction: Prince Andrew was in Thailand this month to visit the Association of Southeast Asian Nations summit held in Bangkok …. he hasn’t been banned from any countries.

  26. PedoPrince says:

    If there’s any truth to the latest rumors, no wonder Harry & Meghan can’t wait to get out of there. Who wants to raise their child next to a pedophile?

  27. Belli says:

    Two things stood out (actually a lot did, but this was particularly horrible).

    He didn’t once express any disgust at what Epstein had been doing.

    He didn’t once express any sort of sympathy for the victims.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Yep. Also, he attempts to label all the evidence against him as fake. Classic tactic of the guilty- cast doubt on evidence.

      • OriginalCarol says:

        Reminds you of someone who constantly claimed everything is fake news eh. Stupid is as stupid does.

    • Lexa says:

      Yes! In the sea of revolting things he said, the lack of remorse and empathy was by far the worst.

  28. carmen says:

    His claim that it couldn’t possibly be him in the photo made me gag:

    “I’m terribly sorry, but if I, as a member of the royal family, and I have a photograph taken — and I take very, very few photographs — I am not one to, um, as it were, hug,”

    • BeanieBean says:

      ‘As it were’. His use of that phrase repeatedly cracked me up. Plus, his mentioning again & again that he’s a member of the royal family, therefore x, y, z. What an idiot. What an arrogant a-hole

    • Mego says:

      Poor Andrew, he gets his reserved royal self mixed up with his sex offender self who does indeed pose for photographs with trafficked women he raped. Also he certainly isn’t hugging her – one doesn’t act affectionate towards one’s underage sex slave. A casual arm about one’s sex slave is much more in keeping with royal decorum.

  29. Leriel says:

    I’m curious why palace has allowed this? Maybe they are planning to wash him out, or the evidence are strong enough to put him at least in the courtroom. So they just let him to destroy himself in front of entire UK.

  30. carmen says:

    Another thing – and it sickens me to say it – maybe he can’t remember Virginia specifically because she was one of many? Does anyone know if she’s put out a statement in the aftermath of this debacle?

    • says:

      Yes, there’s that possibility, but I can look at group pictures of myself in my high school yearbook with people who I would swear I’ve never met before in my life. I can believe he legitimately doesn’t remember her, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t rape her. I believe Virginia too.

    • Mego says:

      Absolutely. She was nothing more to him than a prostitute and likely one of many women.

  31. Lindy says:

    Did y’all read the statement about how he really is just guilty of being too, too honourable and that’s why he had to continue the friendship with Epstein? Jaw droppingly stupid.

    • Chelle says:

      Didn’t you know? It’s not the done thing to cut ties to a rich, well-connected pedophile who lends you and your ex-wife money? Don’t you know anything? Girl, go read your Emily Post or Mrs. Manners.😉

    • BeanieBean says:

      Yes! That made me laugh in an ‘I can’t believe he said that’ manner. He’s just too honorable, dontcha know! Too honorable for his own good. Such a character flaw!

  32. sue denim says:

    just listened to it — he laughs a couple of times when asked about Epstein’s death…I found that v chilling. And he also slips toward the end when asked about what he’s doing to reconnect w the public, saying he continues to “use” er work w Pitch and other groups…

    • Rapunzel says:

      The laughs disgusted me. You’d think he’d at least follow that most basic PR rule: when discussing dead pedophiles, and accusations of criminal sexual misconduct, don’t smile, laugh, or joke.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yes, those snorts of laughter were so odd & off-putting, And as so many have already stated, another sign that he was not adequately prepped for this. And shouldn’t have done it at all, of course.

    • Tourmaline says:

      He also made a creepy comment about the Epstein death investigation and a bone in Epstein’s neck being broken.

      He must live in such an utter stupid bubble and in it must be Amanda Thirsk his private secretary, who per the Sunday Times was the one insistent he do the interview. She is heavily involved with his Pitch at the Palace as well. Of course to be the right hand woman to this guy your judgment must be off. I’m sure Fergie and his daughters also thought it a good idea. They must have found some old diary that there was that pizza party in Woking on the day Virginia Roberts said was the likely date of the picture and decided that was convincing. Mind you that Virginia has never said that was definitely the date of the photo. And also that it is clearly nighttime in the picture and I’m sure most kid pizza parties would be over in plenty of time to allow parents to head out for a late night social event.

      Also creepy that Andrew said he was just in touch with Ghislaine Maxwell earlier this year! I still think she is hiding out in his and Fergies Swiss chalet.

      And that his relationship with Epstein had some very beneficial aspects so he didn’t regret it. OMG.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The chalet doors and windows can be photographed from a public road. If she was hiding out there, I think she’d have been seen by now. There are plenty of more powerful people who want her hidden; they’d provide a place where she couldn’t be found. Not that I’d put it past Andrew to hide her there, just that it isn’t the best place for her to disappear.

      • Mignionette says:

        Personally I think time is running out for Ghislaine and she must know it. She has too much dirt on too many people. I am surprised that (a) she’s not in prison (b) still alive.

    • MC2 says:

      And he’s supposedly speaking about a man that he had such care for, such honor with, that he HAD to break up with him in person. He seems to have changed his feelings for his guy who did “unbecoming” things….

    • PrincessK says:

      His comment about Epstein broken neck bone was very odd….

  33. Digital Unicorn says:

    You can bet that the press are already hunting for staff who worked at Pizza Express on that date – his alibi is going to get blown out of the water as trust me if a member of the RF ate in their we would have heard about it by now.

    • Mtec says:

      The thing is, even if true it’s still a bad alibi. Bea was like a preteen at the time, that location closes the latest 11pm (yes I googled and the recent “reviews” are amazing)… if you wanna believe they spent about 7 hours at a kids party in a chain pizza place, that still really just means by the time they close it’s practically bedtime for kids, and his wife was away, it would have been very easy for him to sneak out and go party after the girls were asleep, it wasn’t that late for an adult to go out and party at all.

      • Tourmaline says:

        Exactly, anyone who has ever take their kid to a pizza party knows they wrap up well before bedtime! This wasn’t some Pizza Express late night rager.

        And if he was trying to say he wouldn’t have gone out that night after, because Fergie (and by the way they were already divorced for years in 2001) was supposedly out of town and one of them was always with the girls HA HA I’m sure Sunninghill Park (if they hadn’t sold it to a Kazakh oligarch yet) was well stocked with nannies.
        And Virginia has never said that was definitely the date the picture was taken. She was a bit hazy on dates as she was being TRAFFICKED hither and yon by Epstein and Maxwell.

      • Enny says:

        Not to mention, Bea was what, 12? 13? She’d have been at boarding school in March of that year. If she was home for the weekend, she would have been back at school by pretty early in the evening. Quick, someone grab the student in-out log for that time period before it “disappears.”

      • notasugarhere says:

        Beatrice didn’t board at school. She was a day student at St George’s, about a 10 minute drive from Sunninghill Park (until 2004) or Royal Lodge (where they moved in 2004).

    • BayTampaBay says:

      There would have been pictures with the service staff to be used for positive publicity.

  34. Hermione says:

    But Harry and his American biracial wife will destroy the monarchy. Yeah right. SMDH

  35. Jumpingthesnark says:

    I think more info will come out soon, and train wreck interview is an extremely misguided effort to get out in front of it. The BRF have been covering for Andy fir this for years, they are all at risk now. Interesting that, at the end of her reign, Liz may have to choose between the monarchy that she has dedicated her life to preserving, and her favorite child. Im curious about what y’all think: Will she ever get to the point with this Andy Epstein scandal to where she would cut her favorite loose to save the monarchy? Charles/William would cut him loose in a heartbeat, except he prob has dirt on them that he would share with the world.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      TQ never takes action unless backed into a corner – she will only do something about her favourite child if she is forced to. This interview and the backlash might be just what forces her to make him retire from public life and royal duties.

      If TQ doesn’t do anything about him it damages the Monarchy – I still think Chuck will force his brother out when he takes the throne, he has no other choice as there is more dirt where Randy Andy is concerned.

      • notasugarhere says:

        This. She reacts she never acts. Ostrich impression. She will never believe Andrew did anything wrong. When the stories came back up a few years ago, she gave him a new fake military upgrade and an award.

        Charles would sideline him if he was in charge. Centralize all royal schedules with them going through his office. Andrew would be cut out.

        He cannot oust him from the country without government permission (Counsellor of State). Andrew would never remove himself or his line from the succession. I could see him trying to wrangle working royal gigs for Beatrice and Eugenie in exchange for going quietly. But only if pressed to the very end, because he loves the public attention not just the privileged lifestyle.

    • Karen says:

      The Queen was just willed 50 million dollars by an old friend. He wanted her to use it for a new yacht. That’s not going to happen. Bet she passes a good chunk of that money off to Andrew.
      With that much money he can walk away from the RF. He wont want to, but that $ will be his cushion.

      • Mignionette says:

        Who on earth bequeaths 50 million to one of the richest women in the world when children are literally eating from food-banks in the UK?

  36. Jessica says:

    His arrogance is palpable. How absurd to be so out of touch and arrogant that you: (a) think this interview is a good idea; and (b) sincerely believe the peasants are dumb enough to believe the extraordinary dumb and illogical excuses. This monarch and it’s secrecy and coverups should be exposed and abolished. No one is above the law. No one.

  37. jra says:

    He says his judgement was “coloured my my tendency to be too honorable”! Who the heck would buy that garbage of a line. Truly deluded.

  38. LaUnicaAngelina says:

    I’m glad you watched it so I didn’t have to. Garbage person from a garbage family.

  39. Pearlime says:

    The editor of Royal Central said: “I expected a train wreck. That was a plane crashing into an oil tanker, causing a tsunami, triggering a nuclear explosion level bad.”

    I’ve seen a few reports and interviews about Andrew’s interview on the BBC today and all the experts they brought in for this basically said the same: that he is an arrogant twat who regularly ignores advice from his team. They also said that the BBC and BP had been in talks about an interview for quite a while and only this week did they get the go ahead from the very top (TQ).

  40. Willz says:

    His judgement being “clouded by my tendency to be too honorable”…


    • Liz version 700 says:

      That line is something else … 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

    • says:

      In an alternate universe, he really could have been a hero. “British Prince Discovers Acquaintance’s Dark Secret- Rescues Hundreds Of Young Women!” But no, he’s too “honorable” 😂

  41. VS says:

    What an idiot!!! they have the audacity to attack Meghan………all their brain cells combined probably can’t touch hers!!!
    No wonder she outsmarts them all……

  42. greenteaandrosehip says:

    Why hasn’t this guy been charged yet?

  43. For Your Enjoyment: I don’t usually click on anything from The Daily Mail anymore, but Angela Levin’s commentary entitled, “How Did Our Royal Family Come to This?”, looked to good to pass up. She takes Andrew’s interview responses and tears them to shreds. Worth the read. Also, I noticed about 6-7 other articles from such as Piers Morgan all attacking Andrew. Seems Andrew’s deciding to go public, have ‘released the dogs of war’ ……FINALLY! Can’t wait to read Lainey’s take on this tomorrow.

    • PrincessK says:

      Angela Levin and Morgan should be ashamed….they knew about Andrew like all of us but chose day in and day out to bully the Sussexes. These hacks are just interested in making money out of the Royals.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Maybe Morgan’s mad because Andrew’s interview exposes everyone else who had close ties/relations with Epstein and Maxwell? I mean, Andrew was dumb enough to say in that interview that the *whole Royal Family* knew him and spent time with him. What’s going to stop him from name dropping people like Morgan who also was friends with them as well? (Morgan has picture taken with Maxwell).

        Andrew isn’t real-world savvy in the slightest. He doesn’t get that just having associations with Epstein and Maxwell is daming in itself in the public eye, never mind if anyone like him will ever be criminally charged because of anything regarding it.

  44. Tourmaline says:

    Lest we forget Andrew also made that statement that for a man sex is a “positive action” that he would have remembered taking. Insinuating for (girls and) women it is perhaps a passive action that is done to them?

    • ChillyWilly says:

      Yep, I caught that too. Horrifying.

    • MC2 says:

      And the conjecture made here is that women forget or are confused because sex (and rape) is not a positive action for us.

    • PrincessK says:

      That was a stomach turning comment.

    • Mignionette says:

      I was shocked when he said that/ It’s the very language of rape apology and I suspect it has or will form part of his defense when the evidence he is trying to get ahead of is released.

      I believe what he is saying here is he didn’t know the girls were trafficked and underage and he felt that because of his experiences with them that nothing was wrong i.e. he had no reason to believe they were underage and trafficked. That effectively negates intent and will make him guilty of the lesser strict liability offense if it can be shown any of the girls were under-aged.

      In any case this comment is revealing and stupid.

  45. Mtec says:

    Omg, I hope this is not considered thread-jacking, but everyone needs to check out @sharonhorgan’s latest instagram post, where one of the characters in Catastrophe talks about how he’s enamoured with Princess Bea and still would be if she worked at a Pizza Express!! LOLLL they predicted the future.

  46. Maxie says:

    He’s finished as a public figure and absolutely can’t be shown next to the Queen at Sandringham next month.

    Princess Beatrice’s wedding preparations must be in ruins. It wouldn’t be surprising if a few invitations were declined after that. It won’t be televised and the public shouldn’t pay for it either.

    • Mignionette says:

      I think Andy will push full steam ahead with the wedding and that is what will finally destroy him. He is effectively turning his daughters biggest day into the biggest sh*t show of her life by association.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      If I were invited to Beatrice’s wedding I would go as Beatrice is NOT guilty of her father’s crimes.

  47. My3cents says:

    Good luck with announcing a wedding date now.
    On a brighter note, they could probably book the Pizza Express as a venue free now.

  48. ChillyWilly says:

    Holy God. He is a terrible liar. I mean maybe the worst liar I have ever seen. And I have drug addicts in my family and lots of lying, cheating exes in my past so I know from liars.
    What a weasly, perverted, pathetic, little man. May he rot in hell with Epstein for all eternity.

  49. BeGoneOrangeCheeto says:

    The fact that Meghan voluntarily joined this hideously dysfunctional family shows how much she truly loves Harry. No one would ever subject themselves to these people unless the love was really strong.

    • Rhys says:

      She didn’t have much knowledge abut Harry’s family. They are not very chummy. Kate met the Queen after she’d been dating William for years. Moreover, Harry told the press that Meghan will finally have the family she never had. It’s not that he meant to deceive her, but it’s obvious that neither were aware of how things would go in within the family.

      • carmen says:

        Makes me wonder why Ma Middleton encouraged Kate to stick with William and hold out for a ring. Why anyone would want to marry into this family is beyond me.

      • GreenGirl says:

        Agreed, Carmen. The more I read about their “work” and the scandals and so on, marrying into that family just sounds like a horrible idea. I mean, if you really want to be a royal, wouldn’t it be a hundred times better to marry some random duke waaaay down the line of succession? You can still have the glitz and glam (and maybe a tiara, too), but you don’t have the scrutiny.

      • Lowrider says:

        Camilla and Kate will get a prime positions. Sophie, Meghan and the rest are seen as hanger one.

  50. Charfromdarock says:

    My god, how deluded.

  51. Mtec says:

    Notice the phrase he uses when he lies about sweating: a condition “I WOULD DESCRIBE” —he did not say he was officially diagnosed. It’s like he read somewhere adrenaline OD = no sweat and he scrambled to explain that was his situation. Unfortunately there are already doctors disputing that claim, one dermatologist apparently saying an Adrenaline OD would instead cause excessive sweating loll (and even a quick google search would confirm that).

  52. aquarius64 says:

    What a hot mess interview.

    Great for Andy, AKA His Royal Low- news, to throw Ghislaine Max under the bus and use Beatrice as an alibi for the first alleged assault. The Feds are probably watching this interview and now Beatrice can be called to corroborate the statement. Bea can say goodbye to a splashy Windsor wedding.

    Andy’s statement that the Windsors have his back is messed up; they are boxed into a corner. I can see why the Sussexes dipped out of Christmas – they probably knew this was coming. That Christmas church walk at Sandringham this year is going to be a Walk of Shame.

    • Silas says:

      Bet the Cambridges wish they weren’t going either.

      • chunkyla says:

        They were supposed to go to Buckleberry for Christmas last year (remember Carole had the house ready for the grandkids) but were forced to go to Sandringham to do the pap walk with Harry, Meghan and Charles (to show Charles off as the ‘peacemaker’). I wonder if they will use the fact that they haven’t had a Buckleberry Christmas for a few years as an excuse to skip out for the Sandringham pap walk this year?

        Then again, their statement last year indicated that they would spend future Christmases at Sandringham because of The Queen and Prince Phillip’s advancing years. So who really knows?

      • PrincessK says:

        The Cambridge’s will definitely be at Sandringham, they are very much intent on collecting as many brownie points as possible.

      • Olenna says:

        They were “forced to go to Sandringham”? Sounds like a RR #mypalacesource and m*g*xt talking point. Since when have the Cambridges done anything they don’t want to do and how would you have first or even second-hand knowledge of it if they did, @chunk?

    • BeanieBean says:

      Aquarius64: It’ll be a perp walk.

  53. Moonstone says:

    The DM is, and apparently has always been, carefully moderating any comments on Andrew. I’ve NEVER managed to get a single comment on him published! I know that people can pay the DM for placement of stories. So I’m assuming that they can also pay to have comments moderated. When I first read here that the Sussexes were being used to deflect attention from Randy Andy, I thought it was a bit of a stretch. Now, after many unpublished comments, I’m a believer.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They’re worried about legal liability for what people say in the comments. This isn’t just letting people attack Meghan in the comments, it is about potential criminal acts committed by Andrew and their own liability.

    • PrincessK says:

      Liability or not it is a disgrace. An article about Meghan eating avocados or not wearing tights attracts thousands of comments. But articles on Andrew are heavily moderated. DM is never afraid of reporting and encouraging lies about the Sussexes.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        NO, the DM publishes thousands of comments about Meghan eating avocados or not wearing tights as there is no criminal liability in eating avocados or not wearing tights. There is criminal liability in Andrews behavior. The Daily Fail is only covering its own A$$.

  54. Nina says:

    He went and stayed at Epstein’s mansion … to tell Epstein that he could stay with him anymore?



    • Rhys says:

      He wanted to break up with him, can’t you see…

      • Tourmaline says:

        Slowly, over a period of days, and interspersed with some great parties. He had to let him down easy, and honorably, as one does….

    • MC2 says:

      Breaking up with a pedophile is only honorable if you do it in person & party with them for four days ahead of time.

    • Deanne says:

      It was simply a matter of convenience. It isn’t like there are hotels in New York or anything.

  55. agnes says:

    Dragging his daughter in this mess using her as an alibi for rape.


    • PrincessK says:

      Beatrice and Eugenie are already embroiled in this. They have flown in Epstein’s jet and stayed on hid private island. But Andrew wants us to believe he did not have a close relationship with Epstein, who also gave him money directly or indirectly.

      • Lady D says:

        I hope those two girls had excellent security while on Pedo Island. Andrew is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Every time he speaks I feel more and more sorry for Bea and Eugenie Those girls would have been better off raised by wolves.

  56. Giddy says:

    The interviewer does a terrific job of helping Andrew show us how disgusting he is. She also looks like she might, in a ladylike way, smell something rancid.

  57. Lisa says:

    It was hilariously bad and made matters worse.

  58. Nicegirl says:

    Stupid horrible parasites 🦠

  59. Duch says:

    Why does he seem so surprised John brockman was there at the mansion and reported seeing PA getting foot massages? “Really?” Why is PA so shocked? I’ve only been casually following this story and even I’d read about the foot massages. In preparing for this interview he hadn’t heard that anecdote? Not very credible – makes him look mendacious.


    • Tourmaline says:

      He’s such a terrible actor. Clearly he did this interview with this support of people as moronic as him including his top aide, ex-spouse, and grown children. Obviously they don’t understand that those of us not beholden to Andrew for our social and financial status can see through him like a cheap piece of cling wrap.

  60. Holly hobby says:

    Also, I read on Twitter, there was an article about this, that his crisis or manager quit over this interview. He told the duke not to do the interview and obviously he ignore the advice. I’m pretty sure Andrew didn’t hire a replacement because a good publicist would ask for the questions pre interview.

    His answers are ludicrous and trumpian.

  61. Maxie says:

    Emily Maitlis was superb.

    She obviously couldn’t grill him and her tone of voice probably led him to a false sense of security. Maitlis didn’t savage him but did she enough to expose him for the world to see. He probably would’ve walked out the room the minute he heard some really tough questions.

    The “Unbecoming? He was a sex offender” line was a stone cold killer.

  62. Christin says:

    And they thought Diana was a loose cannon!

    There are so many holes in this interview, most of which other commenters have covered. I’ll just shine a little light on the part about where he seems to scoff at having a party boy reputation back in the day. He can remember an exact date in 2001 (18 years ago), and attributes his sweating (or lack thereof) to the Falklands in the 1980s, yet cannot remember how he was plastered all over tabloids during the first half of that decade.

    I suppose he would now say he never met Koo Stark? Or he was trying to innocently help her, a la a big brother scenario?

    • Deanne says:

      He’s so clearly lying his entitled ass off. The amount of BS flowing in that interview was astonishing. It literally defines the expression shit show.

    • PrincessK says:

      This interview is going to prove to be far more damaging than anything Diana did.

  63. M.A.F. says:

    It’s been mentioned a few times but why is he considered the Queen’s “favorite child?” Is it because he is #3, she did her duty with the heir & spare and he is the one just for her? And what does that say about Edward? That he is the oops baby?

    • Tourmaline says:

      Who know really–but I’ve read it stems from him being “Act 2” of her family because she had Charles and Anne in 1948 and 1950 and then felt too busy with Queen duties to have another child until Andrew in 1960, then supposedly was a more relaxed and enjoying mother to him and Edward.
      Also that he was supposedly a cheeky cute kid, then she found him to be dashing brave in the Falklands, blah blah.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Andrew was the makeup baby after a decade of frostiness with Philip.

    • BeanieBean says:

      I’m not sure, but I don’t think Anne would have been considered ‘the spare’ at that time.

    • Whitecloud says:

      He is the Queen’s fav. Look up Lord Porchester.

      • Tigerlily says:

        Yes he does resemble Porchy far more than Pr Philip. If you google them there’s pix of Porchy & Andrew at similar age.

      • olive says:

        i think he resembles the queen far more than he resembles prince philip (or lord porchester). not all children look like their father and with the lord porchester rumor it’s like, “well, he doesn’t resemble philip, who could his real father be?” when he just looks like his mom and her side of the family.

      • M.A.F. says:

        ah, he was in one of the episodes of the Crown. Interesting.

    • Eenie Googles says:

      I’m of the opinion that he is very clearly Lord Porchester’s son and I’d imagine that has something to do with it.

  64. MC2 says:

    You know what I’ve never had to rack my brain about? Whether or not I had sex with a teenager as a grown a$$ adult. For some reason, I’ve never had to sit there & really think “did I rape this particular teen on this particular day or was I eating pizza instead? Think, think, think…”

  65. Andrea says:

    His poor daughters. I would be livid if this were my father. He obviously was involved with these underage women and is trying to poorly cover it up. I don’t know about you, but I have a graet memory but cannot remember what I was doing on an exact day in 2001. He has aged very poorly too.

  66. Beech says:

    Lillabet, oh Llilabet, what were you thinking, smiling and laughing with beloved son on the drive to church? Thoughts Lillabet?

  67. Truthiness says:

    Let’s be real. Epstein wired for sound and video of course. His MO was blackmail. The question now is whether the Brits and US authorities relentlessly grabbed, bought, destroyed and negotiated the evidence away. This would get Andrew to a position where he can deny and lie his way out of this. Wonder how many people had to be bought off with NDAs.

  68. Jackie says:

    If you haven’t read it, I recommend Elizabeth Day’s piece in the Daily Mail about this – she nails it:

  69. Ally says:

    In addition to everything else (e.g. a prince going to see a man he’s not really friends with and stay with him for a week to tell him they can’t see each other anymore), it’s sinister how Andrew purses his lips to stop a smile or outright laughs whenever the interviewer mentions Epstein’s death in custody.

  70. Liz version 700 says:

    Per the Guardian “Andrew was so pleased at how his interview went he gave the production crew a tour of Buckingham Palace afterwards.” So gross, evil, aaaaand a bit stupid.

    • A says:

      Also entitled and tone deaf. He really thinks his sh-t can’t stink because he’s Prince Andrew. I have no doubt that he absolutely thought he did a fanTASTIC job at the interview, and that anyone who didn’t like it was just a hater, lmao.

  71. Elle says:

    An honest man would not be so skittish and nonsensical!!

    • Whitecloud says:

      And to her v first question about why he’s decided to speak to them an innocent and honest person would have jumped on the opportunity to set the record straight and said something to the effect of they wanted to clear up the false stories about them being a pedo once and for all!

  72. A says:

    I think the main reason why members of the RF (especially the “senior” members) historically don’t give candid interviews of any type is because they’re genuinely not very nice people and they hold some really terrible ideas and beliefs which, if they were to be honest about, would get the population up in arms and yelling for their removal tomorrow. They can try to cover that shit up by saying it’s the “stiff upper lip” but I’m starting to suspect that the fact of the matter is that people like the Queen and Prince Andrew simply don’t have the capacity to relate to other people. They see themselves in the context of their own bubble and that’s it. You can see the same thing happening with Charles and William as the years go by. They’re seeing the example that’s been set by the Queen, and following that accordingly. I doubt either of them are people who can accept opposing points of view (except when they absolutely have to) because they’ve never had to contend with caring about anyone else’s feelings except their own, ever, at any point in their lives.

    This is what royalty is. I’m still searching for that issue of Vogue with that article about how “born-in” royals still think that the hierarchy is crucial, that anyone who is not royal who wants to be within their circle must spend their entire lives being demonstrating total deference and subservience to members of the royal family. If they dare let slip that they think they’re -gasp- equal, they get vilified and shut out. I bet Andrew definitely thinks on some level that Virginia Roberts should shut up and be grateful that she “serviced” him at all, as disgusting as that sounds. After all, he’s royalty, and she’s just a mere peasant who doesn’t deserve any rights.

  73. Guest2.0 says:

    I hope this interview leads to the floodgates opening on reporting about Andy. The media has held back and been busy throwing the Sussexes under the bus to protect Andy. Let’s pray now the daggers out and they start coming for the stupid, entitled oaf.

  74. Whitecloud says:

    Total disaster. A media lawyer’s (Mark Stephens) opinion:
    “If he’d kept his silence he’d have been able to remain outside of the case, as he’s a witness and is entitled to diplomatic immunity. He was a private individual and now he’s waived that privacy.”

    He appears sleazier and shadier than ever. They clearly live in a very, very thick bubble. And, sorry, he looks like Porchy and nothing like the Duke of Edinburgh, whom Charles resembles closely.

  75. meme says:

    PTSD makes him not able to sweat? Who believes that? So stupid. I think he hasn’t been charged because proof is needed. So far it’s she said he said. And, of course, he’s being protected. Disgusting pig.

    • Whitecloud says:

      So many great memes coming out of this nuclear disaster of an interview. And so many PR examples for what not to do.

  76. Amelie says:

    The only person going on record to defend him is Fergie, she posted an IG post about how “honorable” Andrew is and how hard working or some nonsense. Wouldn’t expect anything less from her.

    I haven’t watched the interview though I probably will later. But I can’t imagine why he thought this would be a good idea.

    I had never heard of Pizza Express but going to assume it’s a large pizza chain like Papa John’s, Pizza Hut, or Domino’s. After he dropped off his daughter at the party, he had plenty of time afterwards while she was gone to fool around. Like we are supposed to believe he just stayed at home! Well now I understand why Beatrice and Edoardo haven’t announced a wedding date, her dad keeps making the headlines for the wrong reasons. She better think twice once she announces her wedding plans. She might not be able to disinvite him but having him walk her down the aisle will not be a good look.

  77. Rogue says:

    As I suspected the Guardian reports that Andrew’s office had wanted the BBC to profile his charity work& then seems like Andrew’s team agreed to a ‘no holds barred’ interview last week. Maybe the poster above was right& he did think he would get a sympathetic reaction to an interview addressing the claims.

    Royal commentators are trying to distance the Queen from this but Mathis said that it was approved by the Queen and the Guardian articles suggest this too. Royal commentators have also found their angle to drag Harry&Meghan into it& saying this interview was bad PR like theirs. Dickie Arbiter said Andrew& the Sussexes need to be separated from the rest of the BRF.

    Andrew was keen to stress that he was Ghislaine’s friend like that makes it any better given what she’s been accused of too. He was far too jolly talking about how he had spoken to her this spring which was yet another example of his lack of awareness. I wish Emily had followed up on Ghislaine’s whereabouts, whether she could jog his memory of the photo with Virginia and her general conduct. I feel the key question was also around Fergie’s loan which has been said to be reason why he was in NYC. Also if any of his police protection officers could confirm his story.

    Anyway he’s given a lot of rope to authorities the dumbass.

  78. blunt talker says:

    I thought Piers Morgan was a shitgibbon out of hell. Andy is the stankiest shitgibbon with shitstains around his mouth. His mom is doing him no favors by protecting him from things that go way back when he was much younger. I keep reading how Johnny Carson made a joke about Andy being a pedophile. Andy was in his twenties-so was he having sex with 10-12 year olds. It makes me shiver at the thought. He has needed help for a very long time. Instead he gets a pat on the head because mummy will take care of everything. Always going to church and doing the most evil deeds to others you can imagine. May God have mercy on his soul and the soul of the royal family. They haven’t shown any smarts about Andrew’s problems. By not doing anything to help him, has resulted in this tragic story unfolding in the world. Everyone can see it and knows something should have done a long long time ago. Being educated is not a strong suit for this family because they would have known better to let this continue for so long. Scapegoating others is sinful and shitty as one can get.

    • The Long-suffering Sequin says:

      This is a very good comment.

      I always thought it was an open secret that Andy was a paedo – at least in the UK, I’ve heard it mentioned a few times.

  79. Brooke R Greer says:

    He is SUCH an arselord. That is all I can spit out, LOL.

  80. He lives a lux life, the best medical care, the best diet, he “does not drink” so why the huge bags under the eyes?

  81. Le4Frimaire says:

    Even with this train wreck of an interview and all around condemnation of Andrew’s obvious lies and stupidity, there are those like dense Dickie Arbiter who are trying to equate what Harry and Meghan said about their press struggles to this over privileged, stupid wart of a man. There is absolutely no need to do that and once again trying to use them as some sort of human shield.

  82. Adrien says:

    After watching the interview, I am definitely convinced that Prince Andrew is innocent of all the accusations – said no one ever, not even the Queen.

  83. JC says:

    At the end of the day, this is meaningless.

    In the course of history this means nothing.

    So Andrew had a dalliance with a girl who was of legal age.

    No one will ever be able to prove that she wasn’t there of her own free will. The only person who could have proved that is dead

    Same with Clinton and Trump.

    • morrigan01 says:

      She wasn’t legal when Epstein recruited her and started trafficking her. She was 14. Doesn’t matter if 16 is the legal age in London. In Mar-A-Lago, Florida, where she was first recruited and groomed – again at 14 – the legal age is 18.

      So no. A girl who was recruited into sex slavery at 14 and transported not only across state lines but to another *country* from a state where the legal age is 18 was NOT there of her own free will. Not in any way shape or form according to US laws.

      *That*’s the point and why the FBI now wants to talk to him. Suspect that Andrew probably better not come to the US unless it is to talk to the FBI, or he’ll be detained by the Feds the minute he sets foot on US soil.

    • Whitecloud says:

      She wasn’t of legal age the first time; she was 17. That’s statutory rape no matter how much “consent” she gave, because she wasn’t capable of giving consent at that age in the law’s eyes.

    • Silas says:

      Things have the meaning we give them. What meaning do you want this to have? We all have a responsibility.

      I believe her and I believe this matters. Maybe she won’t get justice but what happened to her matters.

    • heygingersnaps says:

      people like jc and pedo andy, hope that crimes like these will just go away but it won’t. pedo andy will always be seen as a pedophile, this is not some kind of love triangle affair, this is human trafficking and abuse.

  84. Rogue says:

    Papers like the Telegraph are spinning that the Queen didn’t approve the interview. Apparently he did attend church with her yesterday but walked so as not to be seen with her. Wonder how long they will keep up that charade? The British morning shows seem to be almost sympathetic after the outrage over the weekend so might be business as usual for him soon. Sigh.

    Congress has written to head of ABC about the leaked video where Amy Robarch said her victim interview was quashed by the network to protect powerful interests& have apparently asked to see the interview. Maybe the Epstein story will go on but can see the Uk press downplaying it as far as Andrew is concerned.

    • morrigan01 says:

      Yeah, I can see the UK Press downplaying it. However, I don’t think the Worldwide press will, especially the US Press. And in this day and age, with the internet and all, news isn’t exactly “region locked” as it were, anymore. So people in the UK aren’t going to be exactly compelty in the dark about anything that’s being said or might still be going on legally, and how Andrew may factor into it.

      • Megbot2000 says:

        No, I’m in the UK and the press here are really going after Andy. ES have a huge cover story today about him allegedly using the N word in private (which is bad obv but can’t imagine it’s uncommon, I bet half the ES staff use it).

  85. The Long-suffering Sequin says:

    It’s like watching a big, stupid paedophile walk repeatedly into a glass cabinet.

  86. JustMe says:

    Hope this Virginia lady has good security although if they got to Epstein in a jail anything is possible.

  87. Ariel says:

    Someone above in the almost 300 comments mentioned Eyes for Lies, which I hadn’t read in awhile. I think we should all throw in a few dollars to collectively hire eyes for lies to opine on Andrew’s interview. It would be fascinating.

  88. noway says:

    Has anyone started watching the Crown’s 3rd season? Cause I swear they are trolling the modern royal events or history is just repeating itself. I know they base a lot on historical facts, but it seems dramatized in a way which seems to reflect today’s royal events. Although Andrew’s interview is on a much more serious topic this reminded me of Prince Phillip and his out of touch interview on Meet the Press and his BBC documentary to show the royal family as “normal.” Andrew is either guilty as hell, or the most out of touch privileged person you will ever see, and most likely both. You certainly wouldn’t want him doing a public interview either way. You wonder why the Queen’s m.o. is always keep quiet and keep going on, cause the other just never seems to work. The odd thing about this is as there really wasn’t more new aspects about this story. It seemed the story was dying. Granted overwhelmingly people didn’t like Andrew, but that seemed to be where it was going to end. Now stories all about this and his sweat glands. Seriously, even if he wasn’t guilty, as he claimed, this just seems so unbelievable why would you go there. He just had to save his personal reputation. This is part of the reason why people make me laugh when they think the Queen can control the narrative with the press. She can’t and never really has been able to. Sure she can squash a few things, like all rich and powerful people, but not everything and invariably her own family does her in. Unfortunately, as far as Andrew being criminally prosecuted the reality is there seems to be very little evidence you can use to prosecute. Unless they have some money ties or other evidence it seems as if they put all their resources into getting Epstein who is dead. I’m kind of flabbergasted the woman who “recruited” or forced these young women into this sex ring is still not arrested. That is why this interview as amazingly stupid timing. As everyone on here said it was not being covered much now it’s front page news.

    Seriously, on a much lighter note watch the Crown Season 3. Only on episode 5 now, but Olivia Colman is amazingly warm, cold, and stoic at the same time as the Queen. Helena Bonham Carter as Princess Margaret is a hoot and great. Anne is how we all hope she is in real life, and Charles, at least in season 3, is kind of lost but lovable and caring. Phillip is amazingly insightful, cranky and somehow more relatable in Season 3. The monarchy should thank its lucky stars the Crown is portraying them. It manages to humanize them in a way their own words can’t.

  89. laura-j says:

    Jesus. Stop. Talking.

    Clearly he knew. Clearly he was ok with it.

    I liked Andrew in the 80s. I regret this.