I wonder if the Daily Mail’s editors get tired of the absolutely bonkers narrative they’ve created in their own little world. In the DM’s world, everything that the Duchess of Sussex has ever done is wrong, and they will stack up as many lying, toxic people to call her a liar. The jig has been up on Toxic Thomas Markle for a long time. That motherf–ker got played – Meghan set him up brilliantly with her handwritten letter, the People Magazine exclusive, and she knew that his avarice and toxicity would lead to Thomas selling her letter to the Mail on Sunday. He exposed himself as a liar and a user, but don’t expect the Mail to admit that at any point. They’re too busy creating this f–ked up narrative that Thomas will testify against his daughter, and that her letter begging him to chill out is the worst thing ever, because REASONS. Toxic reasons.
Thomas Markle is prepared to give evidence against his own daughter in an extraordinary legal case, it was revealed yesterday. The estranged father of the Duchess of Sussex is expected to be called as a key witness for the defence in a court case she has brought against a newspaper. Mr Markle, 75, has given lawyers previously unseen text messages sent in the build-up to Meghan’s wedding to Prince Harry that reveal the breakdown of the relationship between father and daughter. Some of the messages were detailed yesterday in defence papers filed at the High Court in London.
The documents say that after Mr Markle messaged his daughter saying he couldn’t come to her wedding because he had been rushed to hospital for emergency heart surgery and told not to fly on health grounds, he received a text that appeared to be from Prince Harry. The message admonished him, accused him of causing hurt to his daughter and did not ask about his health. It left Mr Markle ‘deeply hurt’. In return, Mr Markle wrote: ‘I’ve done nothing to hurt you Meghan or anyone else … I’m sorry my heart attack is … any inconvenience for you.’
The Duchess of Sussex launched legal action against the Mail on Sunday last year after it published extracts of a letter she wrote to her father in August 2018. Meghan, 38, has accused the newspaper – the sister paper of the Daily Mail – of breaching her privacy, her data protection rights and her copyright when it published extracts. The MoS filed its defence to her case at the High Court in London yesterday. It denied her claims and argued there was a ‘huge and legitimate public interest’ in the Royal Family, including its ‘personal and family relationships’.
I double-dog dare the Mail to bring Toxic Tom to England to testify against Meghan and Harry. I DARE THEM. I say this with absolute certainty – Thomas’s lies will fall apart in a matter of minutes of cross-examination, and his abusive behavior towards his daughter will be on full display. The Mail can say anything they want, their behavior and Thomas’s behavior will be completely exposed if he testifies against his daughter. Bring it on.
Photos courtesy of The Sun, ITV, WENN.
Wow, what a loathsome man. I hope that he DOES testify and that every malignant hater of the Duchess of Sussex sees THEMSELVES in his face. THAT’S how ugly they are.
I’m just waiting on another ‘health scare’ just before he’s supposed to testify.
Exactly, Erinn. Exactly.
It only feeds the narrative set up by the UK press to say that Meghan “set-up” or “played” Thomas.
I beg to differ from Kaiser. Maybe I have a more cynical view of the rotten part of the human race but, no.
It’s almost sure he will testify, handsomely paid, of course. And that will generate millions, billions of clicks for Daily Mail and its siblings, and more publicity, and more scandal. The more the merrier.
Even one more reason to bring that…. hummm…. person to UK to testify is if the DM (or whatever tabloid is its sister, or brother or cousin) had wind from its lawyers that the case will be pulled in favor of H&M. They will want to make money out of it if they have to loose.
This is probably the high point of his entire life.
Can you imagine being so pathetic and vile, that the highest pinnacle of your life is getting world-wide attention for joining those who attack your daughter? For being able to fling feces AND simultaneously advance that narrative that you, poor you, are the victim here?
It’s the pinnacle of his life. He will be the center of attention for a brief and glorious moment and that will be IT for him.
As we say in Spanish–though I translate it to English–the dogs bark but the caravan continues (los perros ladran y la caravana pasa).
Eventually he will sink into the slime where he belongs and then dissipate.
As ever, I continue to wish the Sussex family nothing but strength, health, and wellbeing as their caravan moves forward with their lives.
This man is a disgusting pig. I hope he chokes on his own lies.
I hope Meghan is vindicated by this trial, so that the world can see what she’s been through. To be sold out by your own family, good lord.
To Frieda K: Nicely said.
That’s a great phrase, Frida K, and very apropos for this situation. My grandmother on my father’s side was like Thomas, utterly determined to be human trash. Even her very last breath on Earth was toxic!
Just . . . so very sad.
I saw a tweet about this an thought is was a joke. It’s so unfortunate that Meghan and Harry have to deal with his BS at any time, but particularly now.
Bravo, Frida–K, beautiful post!
Oh man. They better air that “show”. This will be some great viewing. Extra large bag of popcorn for me!!
Lol…..the drama!
“I DARE THEM!!!!!!”
Absolutely loving the fire from Kaiser on this today! 😂👍😘 All hail Celebitchy, and 👎👎👎 to the Daily💩Fail and their cave of bitter trolls.
Lol. Yeah, right. The DM is full of s*it. This makes for a good tabloid story for their narrative but let’s see if they actually ARE dumb enough to do this. I’m going to hazard a guess and say their multi million dollar lawyers won’t be letting that happen. And yes Thomas Markle is a moron and would completely ruin any chance they had of winning. And they don’t have much of a chance of that in the first place.
It’s only a scare tactic. Complete horsesh*t on their part. Sr. won’t go further than limping to his car to drive for beer and smokes. Journalistic integrity is officially dead.
I don’t even think it’s a scare tactic. H&M’s lawyers know full well this isn’t happening. No I think this merely more chum for the racist sharks that read their garbage. More fuel for their hatred. The irony about this story is what they are reporting is in no way relevant to the actual lawsuit. What Judge would care about this? This isnt about Thomas Markle – he’s not even included in the lawsuit! Why would a judge care about an alleged text message to a person NOT named in the lawsuit and not even a part of what the DM is being sued for?? They wouldn’t.
Exactly. It’s not about texts or arguing about the wedding, it’s about the publishing of that letter full of pain and anguish.
The DM just can’t stop bullying Meghan. It’s really sick. I hope she is home shopping in Canada today.
And of course dragging out and doubling down with Toxic Tom at this moment is a terrific shout out by the tabloid to “prove” that Meghan can’t play happy families with anyone; her own or Harry’s. And — as always — her horrible excuse for a father is up for it.
They’re trying to bully Meghan into dropping her lawsuit because if she is no longer a member of the royal family, all bets are off on both sides. It can cause real damage to the royal family if some information gets out there or courtiers are brought in to give testimony if they are found to be the leak. The Royal Family knows this and Harry’s exit deal might be sweeter if they drop it but on principle, I really hope they don’t.
So Evil Papa Smurf can come to England to slag his daughter off in court but couldn’t be bothered to travel for her wedding – but then again in this instance he has control over the situation and narrative and for a narc like him thats gold, he’ll be high off the attention. From what I’ve read he’s the Fail’s star witness – they guy is going to lie himself into jail if he takes the stand. He might have to prove he DID have a heart attack. Saying all that he won’t testify, he doesn’t have the balls to and the Fail might try and blackmail him into it esp if they have proof he lied about his heart problems.
They’ve been selectively releasing text messages – more fuel for the Sussex’s court case.
I’m kind of excited? I really really want this to backfire on them spectacularly. He should be a little bit more wise to the game by now, though. If things start falling apart they’re going to throw him under the bus haha. And he’s too much of an egomaniac to realize that.
If he had coronary stents placed as he maintains, and surely health records would confirm or refute this, then yes he had a myocardial infarction.
He already showed evidence that he had had a heart attack, surgery, and let HM know about it first.
Right. When DailyMail.com reached out to the hospital for confirmation of his May 16th procedure, the clinic replied that ‘no such name’ had ever checked into the hospital.
Toxic Tommy was at a McDonald’s where he picked up two Happy Meals and a chocolate milkshake covered with whipped cream, two days after his “surgery”.
It’s proven he’s a liar.
@ MeAgain
1) Since when is the Mail a reliable source?
2) His presence at a hospital or clinic could never be confirmed or denied due to PHI & HIPAA policies.
I don’t even work in health care – but I had to take some basic compliance training, and that sounds like I’d absolutely fall under them breaking HIPAA laws.
He’s in Mexico. HIPAA doesn’t apply.
It was phony “proof,” just as credible as pictures that tabloids bought of Sam with Meghan as a child … with Sam’s head photoshopped onto that of Meghan’s aunt. Oh please, proof? LOL The man lies like he breathes, just like his vile first offspring.
I believe he claimed to have gone to San Diego for his treatment/surgery, to the hospital in the Sharp healthcare system. If needed for a court case he can waive his HIPAA rights to prove he was there and needed treatment for an MI. If he refuses to waive HIPAA in court, that’s still his right but it looks awfully fishy…
fluffybunny – a quote from Thomas said he received care in California, not Mexico. Apparently (according to one article) they’re allowed to say if someone had been checked in, but not what the reason is. Still seems sketchy, though.
Erinn- according to HIPAA they can release the fact that you are a patient unless you register as private. When pregnant women are dealing with toxic families it is advised they register as private to prevent the family from knowing they’ve gone into labor. So he either registered as private or didn’t receive treatment at where ever they called.
I’m not convinced he’s in the wrong–maybe there is something to his story. I’m also not so much a Meghan fan at all–I just don’t TRUST her that much, and I’m not afraid to admit that I feel she could have very well “manipulated” herself into Harry’s life and heart just to become part of the royal family, not realizing it would also backfire on her. Let the fireworks begin.
They have declared war against her. The fact remains that Toxic Tom sold a copy of Meghan’s letter to the tabloids and they edited what she wrote. Meghan and Harry have the upper hand here, and they can ask for all communications between Tom and their reporters be entered into evidence. I think the Royal Family will try to shut down the lawsuit just because they don’t want to be dragged into this mess and have their own sources revealed. I expect a settlement to be announced soon. The only silver lining is that Toxic Tom has shown his ass in its immense entirety here. He’s an abusive POS and Meghan should have nothing to do with him, ever. Also, he has lost any leverage he could have with the British media. They can’t keep trotting him out crying “woe is me” after this.
The tabloids want Meghan dead. That’s my first thought after seeing this headline. The saddest thing of all: she has done NOTHING to deserve this vitriol other than exist.
*exist while brown-skinned
FIFY. 🙁
@whatWHAT? I’m deeply sorry you had to fix this, but your fix is bang on, which is just so freaking sad
Right. That tabloids hate her so much that their racist toxic bullying has hit an all time high. It’s very sad that they don’t realize that the hate they have generated in their smut paper could very well put Meghan and her child’s life in danger. There are a lot of crazies out there. I hope they stay safe. When poor Archie gets old enough to understand he will be so hurt by all of this bullying of his mother because of the color of her skin.
That’s what they want, though.
They must have made so much money when Diana died and they continue to milk the proceeds.
This loser would do anything for a buck. Just despicable.
I start to wonder if this is actually just about money. I think for TOD it is rooted in financial enrichment, but for Toxic Tom I think it’s also about destroying Meghan, because she dared to defy him and not give him the adulation he demanded.
Parents like this are truly deranged, toxic and dangerous to their offspring. I believe reading between the lines of his previous interviews that he wanted to insert himself into her life, and more specifically her relationship with Harry and in so doing be reassured that he would always come above Harry and even Archie in her affections.
It’s interesting that these two (H&M) found each other because essentially what their families are doing to them is mirrored on both sides. Both families are deeply inhumane and dysfunctional with both Harry and Meghan now seeking to escape the role of family scapegoat. The only difference is that the Windsors have money, power and influence and and their brand of sociopathy is a little more easy to publicly deal with.
I wish Harry and Meghan well, this is a story that deserves a happy ending. If nothing else, it will give a lot of people hope that they can escape to build lives and thrive from the ashes of their respective dysfunctional families.
Lets not forget he wanted to be the centre of the attention at the wedding when he asked to make a speech at the ceremony and was apparently not happy when he was told no – he also was not happy when he was told no when asked if the RF would pick up the expenses for the entourage that he wanted to bring to the wedding.
He tried to make her wedding all about him and when he was slapped down about it is when he turned nasty and started lying and selling her out. He’s punishing her to daring to tell him no,
Is it legal for him to profit from testifying in the court case? It doesn’t seem like it would be.
Not directly. He’s not an expert witness, he can’t be paid. But the rags could slip him something for interviews and he could try to publish, like Samantha.
if there is a court case there will be huge media interest and he can def make some money selling stories to the media …
Which Harry and Meghan’s lawyers can demand as part of the court case. Any records of the Fail paying TM.
I have nothing left.
Only laughter.
An absolute abusive POS. He’s really going to defend the newspaper that has attacked the daughter he claims to love.
And he’s given private text messages between him and Meghan to the mail. I’m not a lawyer but couldn’t Meghan sue for that citing data privacy laws
I am constantly baffled at the stunning lack of options they seem to have to protect themselves from this systematic targeting and abuse from the DM in particular.
I’ll bet he’s just as successful as Andrew.
PR geniuses that they are and all around vile.
100% certain..HE WILL NOT SHOW UP! Thomas Markle loves the drama but not the truth. DM will say anything to paint Meghan in a bad light. Their Duchess just returned to work yet they can’t help to continue to abuse Meghan. I’m not sure what’s wrong with the Brits but everyone else sees it and the more they go after Meghan the more they confirm what she/Harry have been saying. Brits…leave her be. There is so much hate toward Meghan from the Brits. I’m glad she is safe in Canada and within miles from the US border and not an ocean away.
@Myra, many of the people posting on the British tabloid message boards are White American women. I’m not saying that there are no hateful, racists in Great Britain, but most of the British people I know, don’t care about the royal family. On the other hand, Americans seem to be obsessed by them. Makes one wonder what all that fuss in 1776 was about.
Funny, kerwood.
I meant your last sentence. I should have been clearer.
Kerwood: That argument makes ZERO sense. If H&M are only an American intrest why are they on every news channel and carried by every major paper in the UK. Surely TV programming and articles writtten in UK papers are not geared toward Americans.
Americans aren’t obsessed with the BRF. None of my friends or colleagues care about the royal family, and most have barely heard of the Daily Fail. I think on either side of the pond, there’s a relatively minor (percentage of population-wise) pool of zealots who follow these things closely and are so vocal that it looks like there are more of them than there are.
Kerwood: Are you American or British. I hear that a lot from the Brits. I’m going to go with what Molly said. Why would Americans care about the British Taxpayers?
He’s a liar and an awful father, but there is a point in their defense – he didn’t publicise the letter until after her team spoke to People describing and partially quoting it.
I think this case is even messier than it seems and I don’t know if it benefits anyone – except the muckrakers – for that to become more public.
Nothing to do with her friends talking about the letter, Meghan owns the copyright, it can only be publish with her permission.
Meghan should let her lawyers take off the kid gloves with toxic Tom. I don’t want to hear anything about he is an old man, he put himself in this mess, let the chips fall where they may.
This guy don’t care about, putting out a statement that he is sorry they’re leaving the Royal family.
Her friends talked about it.
I can talk about copyrighted material all day long.
The problem comes when I publish copyrighted material.
There is a difference. One is your property -your copyrighted material. The other is my opinion.
This is so messy and sad. It’s hard to imagine a parent doing this to their child.
You should read Reddit, it’s an eye opener that, there are so many toxic parents out there.
The stories in the raisedbynarcissists subreddit are horrific, but it gives you a much, much better understanding of how these people operate and what they are capable of.
The abuse meted out by narcissists can be so subtle and confusing it can take decades for those raised by them to figure it out, if they even figure it out at all.
Yes! The toxic parents pop up in Am I The Asshole (AITA) a lot too.
M&H are suing the MOS and the Fail, does he have a choice not to testify? I don’t’ see this going the distance. As someone said upthread I see this settled out of court.
He don’t live in England, and they can’t force him to come, he can always do a video hookup if the court allows it.
The lawyers for the defense are on television, throwing toxic Tom is going to testify as a way to make Meghan cave, good luck.
Has this man got no dignity?
Markles have no dignity, no. Not a single shred. They don’t know the meaning of the word.
Poor Meghan. Her paternal side of the family are awful and she married into the most dysfunctional family in the world. At least she and Archie have Doria. She really seems like a lovely woman.
I don’t see what this has to do with the lawsuit. So what if she’s texting and writing to her dad.
An excuse to publish and allude to yet more of their communications thereby diverting the public’s attention away from the real issue…. COPYRIGHT…
I’m STILL laughing at that “I had a heart attack” narrative….SUCH A LIAR!!!!!!!
I’m looking forward to the proof coming out that he never had a heart attack. This mofo was out eating McDonald’s right after his alleged “heart attack.”
The Daily Mail said he stayed home all day on the day of the wedding. They had him followed and he was never in the hospital. Someone on twitter had screenshot of the article. LOL.
AND he was apparently well enough to speed dial TMZ to give them detailed and regular updates.
I have difficulty believing he had a heart attack. A panic attack with chest pains maybe.
@Lanne I think you are right and it is so scary and sad. She has no one from the family she grew up with except her mother. I’m glad she has Doria. And Harry. As someone who has gone through very similar family circumstances with both family and in laws the stress she and Harry are under is suffocating and it puts a strain on their marriage no matter how firmly they stick together. There are still arguments and tension and an air of sadness that can easily fester in to resentment. I seriously truly hope they are able to overcome it. Lots of therapy and communication is the key and I am sure they already engage in both. Marriage is work even for easier marriages. My husband and I are 12 years in and I didn’t have the early intervention Harry has given so I am cheering them on for this!
But yes the part about wanting her dead is accurate. I’ll always see Meghan as that little girl from Nickelodeon who even back then had the heart of someone who only wanted to give back to her community and planet. I view her as an earnest, kind, intelligent and service-driven person who has been on her own for awhile and knows it’s best to do things yourself than wait around for someone to do it for you. She is so strong of will, heart and spirit and we are going to see great things from her whether the media likes it or not.
Trashy behavior, deplorable
What does it matter what she said and whether she was nice to him or not? He still had no right to publish that letter. How is this even a defense the Mail?
Click bait to get readers. I went to the DM last night and counted 32 stories on Meghan before I quit counting. Between the palace and the press, they killed their golden goose. Now Canada gets to benefit from their presence. Lucky us!
Absolutely spot on. They are trying to milk this story before they have to stop reporting.
And, above all, Piers Morgan himself is out for her blood. And that man will go any distance if it means he can get a shot in. After all, he was the Editor in Chief during the time phone hacking happened (Hugh Grant for example) and there is very little doubt he knew what was going on.
I’m not one to wish bad things on people but man do I hope the rest of his days are so despairing and destitute that death will be considered a vacation. Meghan, Harry and Archie are better off with this POS. He’s just another person who’s so deep up their own ass they don’t realize their shit stinks. The only difference between him and the Windsors is their tax brackets. There’s not reason for that POS to testify other than to further hurt Meghan and he’s lower than roadkill for continuing to play along.
Well, for my part, I AM one to wish bad things on (bad) people!! Papa Markle, I wish nothing but the worst.
I agree with you completely.
Wishing that his particular chickens come home to roost is ill-wishing, it’s just hoping for karmic justice.
It’s interesting how glowingly and lovingly Meghan wrote about this guy on her blog back in the day. I wonder why and how he changed?
She met someone, a Prince, she fell madly in love with, and Papa Markle was afraid to lose his first place in his daughter’s heart. He cannot stand to have to compete for Meghan’s attention and affection. He wants to be THE first in her life, beofre her husband and even before her infant son. He is absolute trash.
Maybe, but I don’t think he WAS a large part of her life. Certainly not #1. He wasn’t at her first wedding, and he didn’t show up much (if at all) on her Tig, insta, or in pap shots.
He’s a narcissist and abuser, obviously, but I think it was more the attention she was getting and not a change in their relationship.
He has photos of the two of them at her wedding. A wedding she thanked him for funding.
@Hikaru: he was NOT at first wedding and funded nothing. He’s told at least six lies around it and any photos you see of “Meg and dad before he walked her down the aisle” are shopped onto a phony background and from a different event. Sam photoshopped the pictures. The Sr./Meghan rift goes back about 20 years. They were NOT tight until the minute she married Harry … another Markle lie.
Meg herself said he funded the wedding and thanked him for doing that, are you calling her a liar?
@hikaru – you mean the wedding he claimed to have sold Facebook shares to fund given that Facebook hadn’t even launched their public IPO until several months AFTER her first marriage. He would have contributed financially to it but he has claimed that he funded the entire thing because he sold FB share’s are false – there were NO FB shares to sell (unless he was one of the several multi-millionaires who had privately invested in it before the public IPO). He may have sold other share/investments he had but he’s on record bragging about ‘selling’ FB shares.
Probably because narcissistic abusers are still abusers even if they do nice things for you. And often, public/private grovelling is what they require for a “relationship” to continue. Considering they HAVE had issues for years despite her trying to patch it up, Meghan finally realized her shoutouts and support meant nothing to him and she left him to make his own bed. He deserves it.
If you read carefully she was giving credit where credit was due. She was not “bragging” about him. She glossed him over. It was Doria she was mostly talking about. She cares for her father but he’s been kept at arm’s length since her teens, and that’s when the relationship became strained. It was not Meg’s doing, either. “I have only ever loved, defended and protected you,” what does that tell you? He did not become an abusive bastard overnight.
I reread it. She talks about how he got up early every day to work to earn money to send her to Catholic school and to help her with college, and how he took her to the sets when she was on vacation to watch the shootings. (This is her Tig entry on him, not her letters). It was most certainly complimentary and loving.
According to the Vanity Fair article last year, he was a custodial parent. But some people dispute that.
I’m sure the response was that he manipulated her, but she wrote this in her 30s and she seems like a pretty mindful person.
Sam must have hacked her blog and photophopped her VF interview!
(according to some users hahah)
Manipulation from a parent can leave scars well into middle age.
Also I am confused about how you seem so invested in somehow proving she is a liar about this. The fact that he’s behaved this way in the media isn’t bad enough?
I am in my 40’s and have just finally lowered to almost no contact with my toxic family. I spent 2 hours with them last year during which they railed against illegal immigrants and tried to manipulate my husband’s business connections to get them tickets to the RNC. It’s not Meghan’s fault that it took her so long to see who her sperm donor really is.
@Mumbles this is like the people who complain brad pitt can’t be a poor father now because angelina jolie once spoke highly of him as a father. shit changes. PEOPLE change. thomas markle is a narcisstic, abusive parent who would have had no issue wearing meghan down until she posted about him on her blog and he was given the recognition he clearly feels he deserves. AND it can take a long time to recognize abuse for what it is and recover.
He may have been an abusive bastard all along, but it took Meghan years to recognize it. As it took Harry years to recognize his treatment by family members was abusive.
Her high school education was most likely a condition of the divorce. That man never gave up a dime willingly. We all know that. He may have helped with some fees for university, but the fact remains that had her tuition been paid privately, she would not have even qualified for the work/study program. A blatant, careless, narcissistic Markle lie. He didn’t pay for Northwestern any more than I did. And for him to lie AGAIN and say it was “a point of pride” to pay her her debts after she became famous and wealthy is bloody ludicrous. You know, right up there with “I have four Masters degrees” from ToD. Lying, grifting, greedy freaks.
Interesting that such an abusive, manipulative father can get apologists when the daughter is Meghan Markle.
Anyone who hasn’t lived through this is clueless, because normal people don’t behave in the way that Meghan’s loutish father does.
This is how the dynamic works : the person being victimised learns how to mollify the aggressive party by providing them with bits and pieces of whatever will cause that abusive individual to lessen the attack for several weeks or so. (The relative peace doesn’t last long, a matter of days or maybe weeks, so the victim has to keep providing the narcissistic supply.)
For Meghan’s father endless praise mollified him, to a point. So that is what Meghan did by making a HUGE fuss in the Tig over the little things he did do for her over her life.
One thing I have noticed is how much ATTENTION many people, especially elderly people, demand of their children. I’m not talking about situations where adult children are asked to provide necessary care to assist an ageing parent who is in poor health, but parents making unfair demands on their children’s time, energy, and financial resources just because they feel their children’s time, attention, and resources are their due.
Thomas Markle was quoted as saying : “My daughter said she’d take care of me in my declining years. I’m not talking money, I’m talking about taking care of me. That’s important to me.” (16 August 2018)
The impression I have of this obese, old oaf is that he doesn’t want to do anything for himself beyond going out to collect junk food, fags, and beer. He is ambulatory, he can drive, he has an income of over $50,000/year, and medical insurance. He doesn’t need Meghan to ‘take care’ of him. Miserable, selfish, egotistical sod.
One other thing. The selfish parent will punish the child that refuses to give in to their demands by making up lies and slandering her, as Thomas has done with Meghan.
Mignionette captured the dynamic perfectly when she wrote : ‘I start to wonder if this is actually just about money. I think for TOD it is rooted in financial enrichment, but for Toxic Tom I think it’s also about destroying Meghan, because she dared to defy him and not give him the adulation he demanded.
Parents like this are truly deranged, toxic and dangerous to their offspring. I believe reading between the lines of his previous interviews that he wanted to insert himself into her life, and more specifically her relationship with Harry and in so doing be reassured that he would always come above Harry and even Archie in her affections.’
What I find remarkable is how many people who should know better buy into the slander.
@Hikaru – Where does/did Meghan say that? She wouldn’t mention something like that in the press. She doesn’t talk to the press? Where did she say those words? Because he was not there. Only Doria was. Sr. was bankrupt at the time and SHE was paying his bills.
Lawyer here, I really want to see the court filings. The general wording is super shady as expected? but I want to see the alleged “receipts” some news outlets are saying are attached to the filing, and the laws they are using to defend themselves. Does anyone know how to get an actual copy? It’s easy in US but I can’t find access in UK system. It appears they are using the people mag “set up” as a loop hole? To post the letters? And the Jessica Mulroney bit. The news outlets won’t publish the written text of the text messages. I assume it would be in violation of this same law? The timing of the filing is SUSPICIOUS AF
I didn’t think letters given are protected under copyright in the US even so it’s all fair use — I thought the action is based on some obscure UK statute. I’ve read some of the filings and their case is weak, borders on frivolous. Whoever is advising them is a moron but they have stans and even loosing the lawsuit could be a pr win once the litigation amps up and is perceived as abusive … even tho litigation is in its nature adversarial and dirty, which is why ppl don’t jump into it. There’s no reason to have filed this action unless they relish the attention and support from this staged drama.
I was under the impression the suit about the letter was about violation of copyright, as Meghan is the author of said letter and retains copyright. Why does this make their case frivolous?
As for your other statement, they issued a lengthy statement as to why they are doing this, and it’s not about “relishing the attention and support from this staged drama”.
What do you think of the MOS defence though? From what I’ve read on SM, it doesn’t matter that Thomas Markle shared the letter to the paper since the lawsuit is about copyright violation.
Hi Catherine — Go to ByLineInvestigations website. They are posting all the filings as they get them.
Thank you JA Lowcountry Lady!!
it is my understanding that the Daily Mail on Sunday’s defense is that the People magazine article made the letter fair play and a newsworthy item. I am not not sure how great their defense is though because they seem absolutely desperate that this case not go to trial. Much of what was reported is clearly irrelevant to the case but they want to throw out as much stuff as possible showing what a bad daughter Meghan is. They are trying to bully her into not proceeding with their lawsuit. And, yes, I am also wondering if their having published Meghan’s texts are a violation of the law as well.
Part of the issue is clearly that they edited the information they published to create a narrative that would not be supported by the original text. That is where the copyright comes in.
He is such a disgusting liar. And that text “I’m sorry my [FAKE] heart attack is inconvenient for you” says it all. Narcissistic abuser.
The Royal reporters are trying to turn that text into a pitiful, oh woe is me statement. It is a nasty, pissy statements and shows just what an a****** he is.
I don’t understand why didn’t Harry and Meghan with their financial means offer her father some financial assistance initially in exchange for an NDA agreement. She will likely pay more on legal and PR fees now than what her father was making off of the photos that he sold (which don’t seem that bad of all the things he could have taken pictures of , a photo of him looking at a computer screen of a picture of the two of them and another of him trying on a suit) -around 100k which could have used to pay for his surgery or mortgage.
Tom has said himself that money and or other support from the Sussexes would not shut him up. According to him, he has the right to speak out in any way he chooses and he will continue to do so notwithstanding any agreement with the Sussexes. This man craves the attention. He would never shut up, not even with an NDA.
Learn to read. He produced documents that were likely subpoenaed in discovery. If it goes to trial they need to admit said documents through the person from whom they were produced. Crux of the issue is fair use/reporting after the people mag article then his is the obvious defence.
No he sold them to the dailyfail and MOS, it’s all about the Benjamins for toxic Tom.
They Can Dance around the why, they published a personal letter all they want, they didn’t get permission from Meghan who owns the copyright.
Can we stop calling him her father? He’s simply a sperm donor.
This is why anyone who cries, “Meghan ditched her FAAAAAMILY!!!!!” is telling on themselves.
Yeah, she cut off a-holes like this.
Fakes news, The Fail is only trying to scare Meghan. Sr. won’t go anywhere. There was no communication between them save for the letter Meghan wrote. He never texted her and she didn’t trust him enough to text HIM. That’s why she kept a copy of the letter as I’m sure she expected it would be leaked, and she was right.
Um … they are being sued. It’s required to file an answer and typically a motion to throw the case out, that requires exhibits to definitively show there’s no action. What? They are not supposed to put on the obvious defense. They will likely do a de bene esse Of Markle in Mexico to be admitted at trial.
I’m aware of that. The man isn’t going anywhere, he can barely limp to his car. It’s a BS scare tactic headline. The lawsuit is about the letter, not a bunch of texts – which from his side do not exist.
Nothing requires them to put their defence in the news. And they didn’t actually print the pleadings so instead they focus on things that aren’t actually a defence to the copyright argument. No explicit consent was ever provided by Meghan to publish it and the Mail will lose on that issue without question. Tom Markle is just going to crash on cross examination because he’s a proven liar and it’s doubtful the lawyers for the Mail will ever call him as a witness.
The Texts are before the wedding, that he sold to dailyfail and MOS.
She spoke TT a day or two after the wedding, and told Him where they going for their honeymoon and ten minutes later TMZ was announcing Canada as the destination, just like the letter he fell for the bait.
Do we actually know where they went on their honeymoon?
Not to Canada.
As if any defence lawyer would put him on the stand. He’d crumble in a minute under cross examination.
If I were Meghan I would want to change my name and disassociate myself with Markle forever.
I agree, I’ve always thought Ragland was a much better name. Like ragtime music.
On the DM Sam has poked her ugly head out. FFS.
Bring it.
Seriously, I can’t wait to see what is in the redacted portions of the letter that Thomas Sr. and the Mail did not want people to see! Sammy said they were bad (she said something like “nasty”).
Meghan knew TT would sell the later sooner or later, if the other parts were nasty, silly TT wouldn’t have sold the parts that proves he is a liar.
Still waiting for toxic Tom and scammy to produced the receipts for her college education, TT sells everything, even post it notes. The texts and that letter was most likely the last thing that he had, that was of value to the tabloids.
The best pictures I’ve seen of Meghan came from Doria’s halfwitted half-brother.
Now scammy is saying she want nothing to do with Meghan, if it took her to 2020 to realize that Meghan called her, father’s other daughter and called jailbird jr. a distant relative, when he tried hitting her up for money.
Is any of this even true, though?
Would he be able to testify that his daughter gave permission to publish a private letter according to copyright laws?
The answer is a resounding no, so he is being to discredit and blackmail his daughter.
So there.
Harry and Meghan aren’t going to drop the lawsuit and Thomas Markle will flake out wrt flying to England to testify in court at the last minute. They will probably try and use the same art attack excuse he used to flake out of going to the wedding.
This is a bluff and Meghan is going to call it.
The Daily Mail is going down and they know it. However, if the lawsuit goes public all gloves may come out when it comes to the royal family. Do you think anyone in Buckingham, Clarence, or Kensington want what the Daily Mail has been covering up for them to come out or to discover which offices had the leaks?
You’re probably right that the RF is most likely trying to prevent this case from going to trial and are pressuring/using bribery tactics to get H&M to settle. But , omg, I wish H&M would go to the mat and see this case through to trial and just let the chips fall where they may. If they do end up settling, I hope they get enough cash to fund their foundation and help with their financial independence.
I also very much wish they do not settle this and stick it out and screw the RF. They all deserve this to happen. All anyone had to do was be slightly supportive.
I read somewhere that when he was supposedly recovering from a heart attack, he drove from Mexico to LA, went to Doria’s house ( creepy), bought a bunch of McDonald’s and drove all the way back to Mexico. Not exact the behavior of a recovering heart attack patient. I’d love for all of his lies to be exposed. And Meghan was regularly sending him money and paying his costs. Such a douche.
And remember when he said he watched the wedding from the hospital room and it turned out he had been in a little b&b not far from his home?!
I was on one site talking about this hot mess. I found out if DM loses in court it could be fined up to 4% of its European market earnings – 20 MILLION POUNDS.
Actually it’s EITHER 20 million pounds OR 4% of their earnings. The Daily Mail supposedly makes something like 2 BILLION pounds or so wrt market earning, meaning Meghan could get around 800 million pounds or so. And, supposedly, that amount doesn’t even add in legal feeds for her lawyers when the losing side – in this case the Daily Mail – would be forced to pay as well.
Oh dear God H & M’s lawyers must be lightheaded with glee. I do not think Mr. Markle will hold up very well under cross-examination.
The trial will last years because the Daily Mail will keep putting out slanderous stories about the trial and cause mistrials…. jk but only halfway.