As we continue to see, the Queen is still doing the most to protect HRH Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Throughout 2019, as the Jeffrey Epstein headlines went from bad to worse, the Queen was regularly making public appearances with Andrew, throwing up a visual PR shield to help out her favorite son. Queen Elizabeth even approved of his BBC interview and stuck by him for days as the fallout reached a critical peak. Then she fired Andrew on Charles’ orders, and since then, she continues to make public appearances with him – they still ride together, they still go to church together, and Andrew is probably one of the few people who still has her ear consistently. They were out at church again this past weekend, just hours after the Sussexit was formalized and Harry and Meghan had to withdraw from using their HRHs. Bad optics. But the Queen doesn’t care and neither does Andrew. So as the Sussexes leave, Andrew wants to be rehabilitated in the eyes of the British public. So here we go:
Disgraced Prince Andrew has become the Queen’s “rock” during Megxit, royal insiders have revealed. The Duke is said to have been a “tower of strength” behind the scenes in the last two weeks and has been supporting his parents in their hour of need.
A senior royal source said: “Andrew has been talking to her constantly on the phone and has now gone up to stay with her for a few days. He obviously has spare time on his hands but he would have been there as a shoulder to cry on anyway. He sees a lot of the Queen at Windsor, probably more than any other royal, and he is her rock at the moment. Behind the scenes we are talking about a family falling apart and Andrew is doing his best to shore things up. He may be finished in the eyes of the public but he feels it is his duty to support the Queen and Prince Philip and get them through this ordeal.”
The source said Andrew was “kicking himself” for his behaviour during the Epstein affair. They added: “It has taken him a while but he has finally realised what a fool he has been and he is beside himself with remorse. He knows he has let the Queen and the monarchy down and it’s going to be very difficult for him to regain the public’s respect. He wants to do as much as he can to make it up to his mother. Both Prince Charles and Prince William have told him there is no way back for the time being. If he hadn’t made such a dreadful mistake he would now be a leading senior royal helping the Queen and stepping into many of the causes and patronages that Harry and Meghan will probably abandon. But as things stand he can only take a backseat role.
“Despite his failings he is immensely loyal and a team player, as he was in the Navy. He is a proud father and he would like his daughters Bea and Eugenie to take up some of the royal slack, but that doesn’t seem to fit in with Charles’s desire for a slimmed down monarchy. Andrew thinks his daughters could do a superb job with the day to day stuff and the Queen is very fond of them, but the levers of power are shifting.”
Imagine being part of a family which worked in concert with the press to bully a young woman out of the country because she A) is not white and B) had a great work ethic. Imagine being part of that family, successfully bullying the “star couple” out of the country through a relentless and racist hate campaign, and then thinking that you have the perfect answer to all of the problems left behind: rehabilitate the image of a predator prince and allow him and his daughters to attempt to “fill the gap” left by the Sussexes. It’s so asinine I don’t even had words. And that’s how you know it’s real: the Sussexes leaving is the best thing that’s happened to Andrew in years. Suddenly, he has his mummy’s ear and he can tell her all about how Beatrice and Eugenie should definitely become full-time royals now.
Photos courtesy of Getty.
Oh FFS.
They all deserve each other. I would be super pissed if I was in the UK and my taxes went to this family.
I think a lot of British people are! It’s disgusting the way the Queen is behaving with Andrew. She is making herself and the monarchy look terrible and it’s going to take years to undo the damage she’s doing, if the monarchy even survive.
I am not British. Canadian. I never used to like the queen. I always blamed her for the demise of Diana. They bullied Diana. Then a couple of years ago I watched the first couple seasons of the Crown and started to look at her differently. Maybe she isn’t so bad. She is so dutiful! Blah blah. I almost started to believe that she really cares for Megan and Harry. That this releases were genuine. But honest to F seeing prince Andrew our with her smiling at CHURCH. I realize she is 93 and maybe she is more vulnerable and easily duped but seeing him there the day after The Queen stripped her grand son who’s mother died at the hands of the paparazzi after she stripped her as well because he does not believe his wife issafe in supported amongst his own family. It’s absolutely disgusting. They are a horrible family. Good for Harry for walking away and I hope him and Megan double the Royal fortune. Just horrible. Never mind that William and Charles have still yet to come out and public ally support Harry in any way. That is your flesh and blood! They don’t care. I am over it
The queen is dutiful. No doubt about it. As long as there’s no confrontation on the horizont. As long she’s not dealing with controversial subjects. As long is just plain, ordinary and normal matters. As long as she decides there’s no harm for her image if she puts the hand on it. History proves all this.
But there’s Andrew. He is the exception confirming the rule. The queen is taking an unprecedent path: she is putting his hand in a high controversial matter, she is dealing with a matter which is far from being normal, plain or ordinary, she is placing herself on the line of danger (more or less). But who’s going to give bad press to an old, sweet, fragile, devastated little granny?
For the first time in her long time as queen, she is taking the step to go public about her “duty” of protecting her Precious. But Andrew’s problem is not a “simple” rape (sorry!). His real problem is about human traffick. And that, doesn’t have an age of consent, or the victim was greedy to receive the money for dealing with her body, or that she should know what she was doing…. Human traffick is human traffick. Either you are ok with or not.
I am not English but have lived here for 21 years and paid taxes throughout …. and yes I have always been pissed about that detail…. even more so now they can’t even look good for all that money they rob from us. Hear Hear! Behold the true parasites!!
Yeah I am. I was on board with the queen, ok with Charles and bleugh on the Cambridges until the last year or so when my estimation of the queen has tanked. It’s atrocious. I never thought I’d be anti-monarchy but it’s happening.
Staunch defender of the royalty for over 55 years. Her smile the day she drove to church with the pedophile excised any good feelings I had for her. It was instant and it only took one look at her smile. As soon as my country *unthaws, I’m going to actively work on getting my country out of the CW. We’ll rejoin when H&M are the heads.
*Wow Newfoundland, 75cm of snow in 24 hours
@Lady D are you in NL too? We’ve had over 250cm since Christmas, there’s no where left to put the snow and we’re not even through January.
Maybe Harry will stop on his way to the west coast and help shovel:)
I’m in BC, Char and our snowfall was 30cm in 24 hours. Nowhere near the amount of snow you got, but it’s still an awful lot of shoveling. Where are you going to put all that snow, Char? The snow banks on either side of every road in town here are 12-15 feet high. It’s been snowing for 3 weeks straight, and I have to get out of my car before I can leave my driveway to check for traffic because I can’t see over or around all the snow banks. I cannot imagine how bad it must be where you are. This may sound naive, but can’t you toss some of that snow in the ocean? I mean the top layers, not the road layer polluted with dust and de-icer?
@Lady D
They are dumping it in the harbour. The city got special permission from the Feds because there’s no salt or sand in it yet.
We are still under a state of emergency and the military is here now so hopefully it will be cleared up by the end of the week.
The Queen is sending a very loud and clear message (very subtle too); you don’t mess up with him; he’s under my wing.
And believe or not, no one will mess up with her Precious.
Of course he’s a tower of strength. What else could he be, being the big dick he is. There is so much SHADE going on in this article: how he would like to help with the many causes that Harry and Meghan will probably ABANDON. How, FOR NOW he can’t come back. How he is true blue, loyal, and a team player when he is a sexual predator and grifter selling his HRH out every chance he and Fergie got. This family deserves each other. I read a huge amount of British history and watching this family play out in real time, with all the ugliness, the vicious backstabbing, and the hatefulness has had me rethink how books on the history never capture the truly unpleasant stink of these people.
Notice the dig at Charles, too – “this doesn’t fit with Charles’ idea of a slimmed down monarchy”…
BBC Radio 4 had a historian on this evening, discussing the whole situation at the moment, and he was the first person I’d heard as part of their coverage point out that H&M had mothballed their HRH titles but Andrew still had his. I think there may well be a real fear that, once all the initial pearl-clutching by the tabloid press passes, there will be some serious questions asked about the monarchy, like:
– why DOES Andrew still have his titles and his income if he’s no longer allowed to work as a Royal?
– why do the Royal Family need the Sovereign Grant if they have so much personal wealth?
– what’s the difference between Prince Charles using the Duchy of Cornwall name to make money, and the Sussexes using “Sussex Royal”?
None of these are new questions, but they’re very logical ones, given what’s happened in the last three months or so.
Do you really believe that article? The tabloids are all about sensationalism and trying to throw the cat among the pigeons, and they are doing this by keeping Andrew in the news.
The Cambridge’s need to watch out, more focus on them now.
Princessk: the problem isn’t the articles. The problem is the pictures. Her pictures. his pictures, the whole scenario.
The problem is how the royal PR works. The messages are very subtil, almost subliminal.
Also Canadian: I want that pedophile apologist’s face off my goddamn money.
Unfortunately I think RF doesn’t agree with your opinion. I don’t give too many weeks and Andrew will be back in full force. Of course, depending on how big is the coverage on Epstein scandal.
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Maybe the pedophile will understand that emoji, because it’s on his level.
I’m starting to believe this is the price the Queen asked for treating H&M comparatively decently: I give them my blessing, but I get dear Andrew back. It’s a power play between the Queen and Charles: he gets to sort keep the door open for H&M, she gets the favorite son back in public.
I think that could very well be true.
Yes this might be it the timing is sure consistent
Esme, interesting theory. This family……. ugh! Sorry you have to support them, Brits…..
Esme, could she really be so blind and dumb to the optics? I can understand behind closed doors but to have him at her side in front of the public. I guess she just doesn’t care what the optics are, she wants what she wants and that stinks!
Seraphina, yes—she doesn’t care about optics. She’s old and wants her Andrew by her side. Her attitude seems to be that Charles can figure things out after she’s gone.
esme. That sounds correct to me. Andrew is on a short clock though because he isn’t going to be attending church all smiles with the King. I don’t give Charles a tonne of credit but I do give him that much
Can you imagine having the most perverted world view and being cool with the whole world knowing?! This family is sick! Sick. Sick. Sick.
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Wasabi, speaks volumes to their sense of entitlement and that they can do no wrong.
Literally makes me sick to my stomach….. Of course he has and he is the saviour of the monarchy (alongside Kate) after horrid and All Powerful Meghan nearly put it down to its knees!!!
Rejoice my fellow humans! For this is the day when humanity has finally hit rock bottom…. now the only way is up….right?
Of course they’re using Harry and Meghan’s departure to prop up the pedophile. Why should we expect any different from this bunch?
People called this yesterday. The BRF really has the WORST instincts when it comes to PR – and the fact that the racist press is aiding and abetting in trying to rehabilitate the criminal in the RF while driving out the genuine philanthropists of the RF is just mind-boggling.
I’ve seen pictures and news reel of the Queen at church on Sunday. We all know Andrew was with her and the tabloids sure have the photos she wants out there of them together. But …..I noticed the more mainstream British coverage shows a close up of the Queen and edits Andrew out. They also fail to mention him being with her. My question, is this the mainstream British press trying to protect the Queen from herself?
The palace PR machine is just so bad. Every time I see a move like this I realize that the eventual implosion will be spectacular. They’re leaving themselves open to so much, and the things they need to “hide” are open for the whole world to see.
As time goes by, it’s much clearer to me why H & M stepped back.
The PR isn’t bad at all, in this particular case I mean. They are doing what they were told to do: I’m going to protect my Precious and you do what you need to make it palatable to the people.
The queen is making clear she will have no non sense about a minor case of boy’s naughtiness. He did what any man in his case would do and everyone has to understand that little detail on man’s personality: aren’t they fools when a cute little girl crosses their path??
This woman has always been terrible, but she used to make an effort of hiding it. Not anymore I guess.
Yuck.
“Both Prince Charles and Prince William have told him there is no way back for the time being.”
“…the levers of power are shifting.”
I think this says it all as far as who’s in charge now. I mean the queen is ultimately still in charge but she does not wield the power 100% anymore. Must be that Charles and William have a stronger say in things because if it was up to her only Andrew would have never left.
As much as I would like Karma to visit them all, I don’t know is that will happen. We want to believe that they will miss H&M and regret their leaving but sometimes people never do realize what they lost
I know, right? ‘They paved paradise and put in a parking lot’*, the FOOLS!! OOOOh, so angry.
Thanks, Joni for letting me borrow your words; I’m so angry I just plain can’t find any suitable words for myself. GROSS
D&DofS vs Randy Andy and they chose Andy????????????????? A shite load of sick puppies.
dont worry karma will come back maybe not to them directly. sadly it will affect their children. when queen denied margrate to marry her love, queen got cheated and three of kids are divorce , one being pedophile. what pedo andrew does comes to his daugter who does not do any wrong. pedo andrew can gloat all he want, in the end of day his eldest daugther with princess title is going to marry in secret like criminal because of his sin. as for cambridges all their karma will come to them in their later lives or hit right at their children. one of the reason queen is not stepping down is because of andrew, if charles and william has much power, surely charles will hand him to the police. like william , charles has resendment towards andy because he is favorite child. also why everyone is suprise that one the main qaulity when people talks about trump being nacrassit is because he openly has favorite child. same as queen having favorite child and gloating him around like nothing happen is also the sign of nacrassist.
Aria, that is an interesting parallel to the narcissist Drumpf. I hadn’t ever thought of it that way, it makes sense! So depressing that these people are our leaders……
I think you make some really good points here!
It has been documented that Margaret wasn’t denied marriage – a deal with significant benefits had actually been made but after Pete Townshend had been absent for a year, Margaret wasn’t sure anymore. There’s public access to some of her letters and they tell a very different story than the one we see in The Crown. The Crown tells a great story but we have to remember that it is fiction.
I don’t believe William told him anything. He ‘might’ have been in the room when Charles told Andrew, but this just sounds like the embiggening of William. Immature William has a long way to go before he’s in charge or making these kind of decisions.
but william and kate are silent whisper snakes to charles. i belive charles and william is deeeply involved in smear because they married their woman is nothing worth of identity than being white. This is going to be a real civil war between kp and ch. dont understime charles, he being in that for long time, i still belive that he has much to do with diana birth. william is playing with charles is not going look good. soon charles will throw kate under bus for camilla.
arthistorian ok may be what you say is true, then why she denied camilla to charles? i think queen is not nice as she portyaed as. what the history shows is that inspite of all the flaws margret is good person only looking for love. queen will see as bad when the times comes, nobody is saying anything because of her age, once she died so many nasty things about will come out.
Aria, no one denied Charles the right to marry Camilla years ago. Camilla didn’t want to marry Charles. She wanted an affair with him for status and gossip rights.
Camilla and Princess Anne both wanted to marry Andrew Parker-Bowles. They were dating him, and bedding him, during the same time period. Andrew being Catholic was a problem for a marriage with Anne. Andrew eventually married Camilla, Anne married Mark Philips.
@aria What I’m telling you about Margaret and Townshend IS true. It is documented in her letters! It is not a matter of debate – there are documents that outline the deal that was made, and letters from Margaret’s own hand where she expresses her doubts about marrying Townshend. This isn’t maybe true, it is historical documentation. Sorry, that it doesn’t fit your narrative.
ArtHistorian is correct. There are letters in the Archive that prove the Queen advocated for Margaret to be allowed to marry Townsend. There was a deal all worked out. She’d get to keep her royal housing, her stipend, and do royal duties on behalf of the monarch. In exchange, she would have to give up her place in the line of succession for herself and any children she had.
Margaret chose not to marry Townsend, the Queen didn’t stop the marriage.
These optics are so bad. How is it possible that there’s no one amongst the supposed genius courtiers, who is willing to tell the Queen that this PR push with Prince Andrew is a terrible idea and needs to stop? As more and more is coming out about Epstein, more will come out about Andrew. She can parade him around and claim he’s a “tower of strength” all that she wants, but pretty much everyone watching thinks that the man is a pedophile, who’e being protected by his Mummy. Of course he’s supportive of her. He wants back in to the fold. They’ve already screwed up so horribly with the Harry and Meghan thing. No public support for them, but get accused of having sex with trafficked teens and the Queen has your back.The Royal Family are skating on such thin ice with the public as it is. This is sickening.
I don’t think anyone considers the royal courtiers genius at this point. Even Charles took his little stroll with Andrew on Christmas morn. At least William hasn’t lent himself to the Andrew Image Rehabilitation effort yet. Interesting today that if Dan W of the Sun gets their talking points from KP, today’s are: that Charles (and Camilla too gets mentioned) are the big baddies and that William, Harry, Kate and Meg-via speakerphone have made peace this week.
William and Kate’s could have pulled their kids from their first church walk this past Christmas — They have colds, they arent ready, whatever excuse would have been fine. But they didn’t. G and Cs first church walk helped pull focus from pedo Andrew. And William And Kate allowed that to happen. So, complicit in the pedo Andy image rehab project that Liz has mandated.
Jumping I don’t see it that way as by that logic, absolutely anything from here forward involving the Camb kids could be seen as pulling focus from Andrew. There is at the least a gradation between appearing directly with him (as the Queen and Charles each have) and not and they didn’t appear directly with him.
Please know that I don’t think they’re geniuses. It’s just by reading all of the RF news over the last year, the story has been that they supposedly pull all of the strings and control the leaks etc. You’d almost think they want the monarchy to collapse. The young, modern, hard working (in terms of the Royals) members have been driven out and a criminal is apparently having the path laid for him to return. It’s sickening.
@Tourmaline: I haven’t read the piece in the Sun but find it interesting that you mention Camilla. Ever since she pulled out of that joint event with Meghan in October (Camilla supposedly had a cold or sth) I have been wondering whether she is complicit in all of this.
elisa kate , william , charles and camilla are invlved in smear camp of meghan. for william and charles , harry is way more popular and relatble than them. for camilla and kate , meghan put shame on them for not working in their 20s. thats why they are in togther. after this its going to be civil war between kp and ch , they will throw each under bus. kate will be more to have positive image on camilla. lets wait and watch. i have this feeling this real karma for charles and camilla is camilla wont be queen of consort. i think with her health condition, she might be able to be queen of consort. this is karma for camilla and charles have to reign without his woman he loved. for william and kate they have more karma to collect along the way. ps. i think camilla is not feeling that well (ch is not saying anything about that ). i think when kate and middleton push queen in waiting for kate along, not for william as king in waiting. i think camilla years are numbered and thats why kate has pushing stories as queen in waiting after few centuries as queen consort.
It wasn’t their first pap walk to a Christmas service. W&K provided press access to the Real Royal Family Christmas Pap Walk (Middletons) a few years ago.
Camilla had been at an event a day before the one she pulled out and she was noted to have a serious cold at that event. I don’t think Camilla involves herself with the shenanigans between Charles and William at all. She after all is the only one who openly welcomed Meghan to the family when the press asked her about it.
Please let these cracks become fissures become gaping maws that devour and consume this toxic lurid anachronistic institution.
This world should not and cannot sustain such outdated and outmoded bastions to inequality and classicism. Our lingering grasp on to such blatantly old-fashioned symbols of pageantry and truly undeserved fussiness holds us back as a progressive society.
And I speak as a Canadian that has always had the requirement of honour and respect for the monarchy greasily hardwired into my DNA. I’ve always thought it tedious, wasteful and pompous. Now, it’s true colours revealed as mealy-mouthed, petty, grubbing and criminally entitled makes it simply disgusting that it is allowed to continue its existence unfettered.
Burn. It. To. The. Ground.
With you.
It was always this way ( and probably a lot worst when they were quite literally above the law) it’s only now with direct media that they can’t hide their shit any longer.
How can they just leave the paedophile unquestioned? I agree, I am now a staunch monarchist.
Wait until Philip/Elizabeth die, probably sooner rather than later. There will be giant public funerals followed by Chuck’s spectacular coronation. And all these losers will play prominent roles. They will look ridiculous, and the tabloid rags will blame everything on the biracial duchess.
with current mood of brexit and economy of uk , i dont this charles coronation is going to be smooth.
Wait until Phillip and Liz die before making any changes…. I’m no longer willing to wait for their passing. I think Liz should see what she has wrought. Her actions or inactions regarding her family, coupled with a foul need to show off her real pride and joy is going to destroy her image, as it should. She will be known as the Queen that threw the first black member of her family out of the country while protecting the sick f’n puppy she calls her favourite, and I think she should be here to see it.
I want tax changes enacted now before the Queen passes. Immediately eliminate the tax-free monarch-to-monarch inheritance of private estates and millions/billions. Charles should have to lose at least 40 percent of the private wealth to the tax man.
Amen to that.
The Queen is likely to be around for another ten years.
Good point. Probably they will say the queen died after a long decline, pinning for his lost beloved great grandson and his grandson, taken out of her heart and house to follow a dream inspired by a gold digger.
It’s not just bad PR. It’s bad ethics, bad leadership, just 🤮
I truly believe that the queen and most people in that social set think that what Andrew did was “distasteful”, but not that bad. Which, again, 🤮
The blinds say that QEll blames the Epstein scandal on Sarah Ferguson’s financial greediness, that Andrew would never have associated with him otherwise. Which is complete and total garbage. If a rich person places temptation in front of you and it is illegal and reprehensible, YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS! Maybe QEll’s generation let men of privilege off the hook but I think Andrew should be tried for any illegal behavior he committed. And when the source says that Andrew “is besides himself with remorse”…doesn’t that sound like Sarah Ferguson’s words, fellow celebitches? Sarah really swings for the fences with her proper-sounding lies, and that sounds 100% like Sarah’s words. Normal people don’t lie with something so completely unbelievable. Besides which, Sarah has been tipped as a source to the tabloids already.
Sadly I believe Andrew will never face any trial or inconvenience out of Epstein’s affair. Except if he doesn’t keep his abnormaly large mouth closed. But that I think he already learned.
So the courtiers stepped in to prevent Harry from being able to speak directly with the Queen, but they allow Andrew continued access to her and photo ops with her. Make it make sense.
THANK YOU! Sweet baby jeebus.
Which makes me wonder whether TQ is no longer 100% fit… it’s just too many bad decisions in a very short time…
Oh no Elisa! She’s perfectly fit and she knows pretty well what she wants. She has an iron will and exercises it every day spreading her influence on the nation’s decisions. The king doesn’t rule, but he whispers.
I used to respect the Queen, however the treatment of Prince Andrew vs Prince Harry changed all that. The BRF values are boggling.
Harry takes a stand against racism, and Andrew takes a stand in defense of a pedophile. Which one loses his HRH statis? Pretty much tells you the priorities of the Queen. It’s time to retire.
They are so gross! M&H make the right choice to leave these vipers in their dust.
Harry and Meghan hasn’t lost their HRH status, they just won’t use the styling. Just like Camilla doesn’t use her Princess of Wales title. It is a bone thrown to a hostile press.
However, the very public support of Andrew by the Queen, and this new narrative of his rehabilitation from The Sun is gross.
Andrew stepped into that support role when Philip retired. All things considered, trying to be there for the Queen is the literal least he can do after all the horrible things he did. The Queen, however, shouldn’t be making a show of it. He’s never going to do the right thing, and I think the Queen is in denial about the whole thing.
The Yorks will never be working Royals. Andrew is an opportunist and has always wanted the girls to be working royals. He will never stop trying to come back and he’ll never stop pushing for his girls if he sees an opportunity. He’s not coming back and the girls aren’t going to work. I doubt the girls would want to anyway. The press has always been awful to them and that would only get worse if they were working Royals. Why open themselves up to such constant criticism?
No, the LEAST he can do is to turn himself over to the authorities and assist in the prosecution of rapists like him.
You clearly have a higher opinion of him than I do. He doesn’t actually feel remorse for what he did and doesn’t understand why his version wasn’t immediately accepted. If he’s upset at all, it’s because he’s had to step down. He’s never really been held accountable for anything. On top of his connection with Epstein, he leaked government secrets, and made deals between a dictator and an arms dealer he’s friends with. All this was known in 2011, but all he had to do was step down as trade ambassador. He’s always gotten away with everything and believes he is above the law.
Response to Ainsley7: ….believes he’s above the law……. I think he knows he’s above the law. He is never going to pay any higher price then he already has with the TEMPORARY step back. I also think —-as far as the senior royals have been concerned —- it was always negotiated as a temporary step back, but that as time passed he would be let back in. This family knows how to successfully manipulate the press and the public.
If Andrew gave all that support behind closed the doors, everything would be just fine. That’s what a son has to do.
What he can’t do and the queen can’t permit is that all his kind support is amid drumms and fanfare, largely advertised, like they are doing
A dreadful mistake?
He’s her rock?
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So the UK press is capable to spinning a positive story about royals so long as they are white.
He’s her rock….. I’d take lying butler Paul Burrell as my rock over this guy any day. At least Paul would be handy around the house.
Ya’all she’s just saying that Sussexit / working for the Queen without public funds is even more harrowing and stressful for her than child rape accusations on her son.
🤮🤮🤮. Royal Family is canceled except for the Canadian branch 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Where are all the outraged British taxpayers, who appeared every time the Duchess of Sussex wore a new dress? We recently heard from ‘Canadian’ taxpayers but suddenly the British ones are silent. Is child rape okay with them?
Andrew is grooming his mother just like he groomed his victims. She’s 93 years old and is probably very vulnerable right now. If she had any sense at all, she’d step down and let Charles take over. Then she could spend all the time she wants with her rapist son.
This is a valid question. Why is there more outrage over H and M BREATHING than there is over a literal pedophile? And what is the issue with her work ethic? I’m not from the U.K. so I can’t grasp why being a hard worker is bad, other than it makes your shoddy coworkers look lazy.
Some of the outraged British taxpayers are pulling the “family card” from what I can see. They admire him for loyalty to his family even though the poor mite has been cast out on the accusations of one woman. But an encouraging number of people seem disgusted.
It is truly sad to see that the only times I’ve noticed the Queen looking truly happy and content are when she’s with Andrew or she’s with a horse…or both. I wonder how she can tell which one is which when the horse has its back to her.
Ok, that paragraph and especially that last sentence was another home run for me. Thanks Cat.
Their family is anointed by God, so it’s OK (eyes in my head rolling back so far that I may go blind)
I do wonder if that’s part of Andrew’s thinking. That he can do anything he wants so long as he gets Mummy’s forgiveness, because Mummy’s head of the church. I don’t think any of the others really believe it though.
I said this yesterday and here we are; they have the press slowly grooming the british public that Andrew is needed to take on some of the work. He will be back doing public duties and nobody will say anything but it’s Meghan’s fault. A good majority of the UK believe that Virginia was either above the age of consent and/or a prostitute, and the only thing Andrew has done was get somewhat caught, friends I have has said as much, I had to remind them that she was trafficked. People are more outraged with Harry and especially Meghan than they are about Andrew.
Enty lawyer said in his last podcast about “Meghan and Harry “ that Andrew is the leak of royal info to the Sun. This is why the story broke in The Sun about M and H wanting to quit! It’s in Andrew’s interest that M and H are gone. Oh and Fergie cashed in on the leak!
Oh that’s interesting if true. I could see Andrew having tea with his mother and getting info out of her !
I can totally see that…
Enty lawyer knows nothing. It’s obvious that Dan Wootton is getting his scoops from KP directly, as all the stories serve to make William look better and throw Charles under the bus. Christian Jones is the leak and it’s quite interesting that he still has his position.
Enty is fake, makes it all up (or most of it). He (they) certainly know nothing about the BRF. That website even has (or had) a disclaimer about being entertainment only (I can’t remember, it’s been years since I looked at it). Oh it says they publish fiction
Honestly Queen Elizabeth forever was a terrible monarch who always made the worst decisions, splendidly demonstrating his total lack of intelligence and his disconnection from her people.
If she was intelligent and had a better political sense, she could have seen that the arrival of Meghan was perhaps the best thing that happened to the crown since Diane and not Kate. Because Meghan could have given a new image of the royal family, more modern and more multicultural and to attract the attention of more young people because they will not be able to continue to throw the Diana card ( I say that more for William) because most of the new generation were not born under the decade of Diana or either they were too small for rememory the time of Diana into royal family. Thanks to that they could have started to prepare the future reign of Charles.
In particular by finally starting the regency at Charles and rationalizing the royal family to Charles and his direct heirs.With the Brexit , The Cambridges would have more work in the United Kingdom and Europe while the Sussex on the Commonweathl member countries until the Cambridges children can take a royal duties. Instead, they are made the ones who are used to doing internal fights because they have egos too fragile. Now their plan is what to beg Workshy William and the Duchess Dootlittle to do a little royal work while paying the British press to make peasants believe how charismatic, motivated and super invested in theirs role that. Then then work to restore pedo Andy and Sarah, and also trying to convince us that there are people who are interested by Beatrice and Eugenie. If she wants to make the monarchy disappear when she dies, she is on the best path.
F*ck QE and her pedo son.
He looks terrified in every photo. I wish he would step out of the spotlight. The queen has tarnished herself propping him up.
This is why I support an age limit on monarchs/leaders. How many people in the palace are just doing what they want, because they know Philip and the Queen are 90+ years old and are simply just relying on the advice of courtiers to do day to day things? Not saying that the Queen is helpless in this situation, but it’s just so obvious to me that no one wants to step in and do what needs to be done.
OF COURSE Andrew is trying to sneak his way back him. How many times do (allegedly) Charles and William have to tell him there’s no chance the York girls are gonna be working royals and he needs to GTFO? His only hope is his mom protecting him.
Standing directly with the Queen doesn’t look like sneaking to me. Looks like he’s welcomed with open arms.
A tower of strength who blew out his sweat glands in the Falklands?
A tower of strength who thinks visiting Pizza Express in Woking is beneath him?
A tower of strength who uses his (then teenaged) daughter as an alibi?
A tower of strength who needed to visit his pedophile friend Jeffrey Epstein for days/in person to break up with him, rather than sending a text?
A tower of strength who stole money from his pitch@palace charity?
If Pedo Andy is the Queen’s tower of strength, she needs her head examined.
Before I start, don’t jump on my.
I find Andrew a loathsome individual and would be more that happy IF he went to trial, was guilty and found guilty and was sent to prison. Not likely to happen, but just to show my feelings towards him. However……………..looking at the wider picture, and not this specific case, we must always be careful that trial by media does not become the norm, because that way injustices lie. We have to be sure that a fair trial can take place, inside a court of law. The media can jeopardise that and has done in the past.
As I said, I would be more than happy to see Andrew on trial. But in the meantime “innocent until proved guilty” is possibly why he is still being seen with the Queen, who in this situation is a bit between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately, he has neither the grace nor the intelligence to disappear until things are, if ever, resolved.
Thank you for taking this brave stand in support of ultra-wealthy and privileged pedophiles. 🙄
Less than 1 in 4 sex crimes are even reported to police and, of those small number that are, way less than half lead to prosecution, let alone conviction. So, no, 99% of accused sex pests aren’t “innocent,” just because they haven’t been proven guilty in a court of law.
Excuse me, please read my post again. Especially the first sentences of my second and third paragraphs. There is no way in which anyone who had read them properly would take them as support for him.
Legally, you are innocent until proven guilty. Factually/Morally of course is a totally different matter. And I am well aware of the conviction rates in the case of sexual crimes thank you.
@Jodieg he continued to engage in a relationship with a convicted pedophile, including staying at Epstein’s houses. Whether Andrew is guilty of rape or not doesn’t absolve him from continuing that relationship with Epstein not only post being charged but after being convicted.
At best, it would be believable that Andrew’s ego was so large he assumed every female passed to him to use was enamored by the fact he is a bona fide Prince of renown, he is rich and I’m sure he very much believes any press that referred to him as dashing. It would be believable that he didn’t bother to question how or why so many very young women were at his disposal courtesy of Epstein. What dimes him out as probably knowing something was very much amiss is his willingness to engage in a cover up and continue his relationship with Epstein post conviction.
This wasn’t trial by media. This was a brave victim stepping forward and telling her story. One of them is telling the truth and one of them is lying. Choose who you believe.
@ Lady D – I specifically included “the wider picture” in my post. Like you I believe the victim in this instance.
Jodie the problem is that he is being protected by his mother’s royal privilege from ever having to go to trial or answer to the authorities. That is the problem!
Also the fact is that statistically it is vanishingly rare for a false accusation of rape. Vanishingly rare. It is exceptionally unlikely that Andrew is innocent. I grant you there is a small chance but given the circumstances it is a very small one.
Still the problem is in your assumption he will ever face justice because sadly, he won’t!
@jodieg, do you know if Andrew has bought a plane ticket to the US so he can give a sworn deposition to the FBI or the NY US attorney? He did say he was willing to cooperate with all authorities. That would definitely help with his story of innocence wouldn’t it? Perhaps he is already on his way and we will be seeing him real soon! Looking forward to it!
Look I said what I think of him which is the same as you do
The irony being that it was Andrew himself who initiated this “trial by media” in the first place.
We all saw and heard the same thing in that interview: A wealthy and powerful man who knows he will never be held to account for his actions and associations, let alone ever see the inside of a courtroom, presenting his “case” and demanding that be the last word on the subject.
And when you look at photos obviously meant to convey that Andrew has the full weight of the British monarchy’s support, you are looking a man who knows, 100% without a doubt no matter what, that he is untouchable.
It’s almost like the act of being born is a bad criteria for picking a leader, even a primarily symbolic one.
For decades, if not more, the Royal family has bamboozled the British people into thinking they “pay for themselves” via tourism revenue. Raise your hand if you’re naive enough to believe that tourists will stop wanting to see Buckingham Palace if the Royal Family ceases to exist.
Insular, inbred (endless generations of cousins intermarrying well into the 20th century) and shockingly stupid and venal are what the Royal Family has always been—It’s just a lot harder to hide in the present day, than it was in past centuries.
Meant to reply upthread.
BRB, putting God Save the Queen by the Sex Pistols on repeat.
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I have always attributed Will’s petulance to being spoiled and Charles’ genes. Now I think those spoiled petulant dummy genes came straight from Granny.
I am so sorry, there must be some hallucinogen in the font that affects the meaning of what is read. Because there is no way that I just read what I thought I read.
I have to lie down now.
With the amount of chaos that already exists in the Windsor family, what makes the Queen think it’s a good move to publicly show this level of support for a man that clearly isn’t innocent? How obtuse can someone be? There are way too many pedos supported, knighted & protected by this family. All the massive pedos that were exposed over the past years in the UK were knighted or honoured by the Queen and were close to the royal family in some form. But no, apparently the grandson is the problem instead.
The Queen is riding a high of popularity right now because she has banished those nasty Sussexes. So of course she’s gonna get her boy back.
Oh ffs, where is this woman’s moral compass at?
This whole thing makes me sick. And the media will continue to blame it all Meghan. They’re gonna pull some muscles from reaching so hard.
I cannot believe he hasn’t crawled under the rock already. This is seriously BAD to keep parading him around like he did nothing wrong. I saw both his interview and Virginia Roberts and I unequivocally believe her and find his story lacking to say the least. I have a very good memory, I remember things most people do not, but I do not remember a specific day more than 15 years ago unless it was substantial in nature. I feel like the monarchy may need to end. It is too much that Harry and Meghan had to leave and THIS guy.
tinfoil hat I hope but is anyone else worried about H&M&A’s safety? That the BRF is even discussing security options, given the hate they’ve faced, and esp given what happened to Princess Di, with her limited security (I forget if that was by choice) and her fears/concerns/premonitions, would it be convenient if something happened to them? Who knows too what really happened to Epstein…
Yes @Sue_Denim I have a very weighty tinfoil tiara. My mom got it around the time Princess Grace died. A second princess dying in a car crash a few years later had us wrestling for the tinfoil tiara.
Lol, even my husband cracked some sinister jokes about William spending 3 weeks hanging out with British Intelligence services last spring. He joked that Harry and Meghan needed to check around for spy cams because his big brother was literally hanging with Big Brother and they seemed to be out of sorts with each other.
What was mildly amusing at the time because it seemed so far fetched, now isnt so funny in light of the obvious treachery in the press and PR games. I am shocked at the lengths William has gone to to take advantage of his brother’s press woes. And when they asked William and Kate if they were excited about Archie and I could clearly see they didn’t give two f’s and were struggling to pull a relatable quote out of their asses, I knew all the toxicity that destroyed Diana was still very much present.
I was blindsided by the whole thing because for years I didn’t pay any attention to the lot of them and assumed both of Diana’s sons grew up with compassionate values and were supportive of each other. I assumed after such a long engagement that Will and Kate were truly a love match and would reign happily ever after and that “Diana’s two boys” were best bros forever.
Seeing how things crashed and burned so fast and in such an obvious way for Meghan and Harry was a nasty surprise to me. I did get my start reading about them in the Daily Mail because I had no idea what kind of rag the Fail is and allowed them on my news aggregator. As I started reading, I realized what hot garbage I was looking at and started looking for a better point of view and found this blog.
This family has shown they don’t think or feel like we do. Things that make sense and seem reasonable to us go right over their heads. They seem to be used to being measured against metrics we don’t understand or relate to.
Harry got jarred out of their world by the death of his mother. And possibly even earlier as an easily overlooked “spare”. He willingly went out into the real world to seek as many experiences as he could to bring him closer to understanding how people live outside of that toxic royal bubble.
Andrew is an example of the spare who didn’t take his also-ran status to taste life experience life outside the bubble. And we see what a mess we get when that happens. Like Harry, he got attention and adulation but he didn’t get any kind of reality check.
In a way it really is like a cult. Tom Markle wasn’t far off comparing them to the Scientologists. Harry and Meghan are almost getting a parallel version of the Suppressive Persons treatment. I can only hope the courtiers and the rest of that establishment are not as ruthless and unhinged as enforcers for that cult are known to be.
quest and prairie girl, thanks for these thoughtful responses. Increasingly they do appear more like a crime family/cult just w posher accents and fancier regalia (tho Tom Cruise at Scientology events makes a run for it), where it’s all about loyalty to the capo not higher morals, with the trips to the church performative. I think/hope Harry knows the potential peril they’re in, and I think it’s a reason Meghan and Archie stayed far away… Scary on many levels tho…
I wonder about this too. I thought Diana wasn’t entitled to security once she lost her HRH – and that factored into why she got into a car driven by a drunk driver – but I could very well be wrong. I hope H&M don’t decide to settle in L.A.: the paparazzi there will have a field day and it’ll be a complete gong show.
She was offered security and turned it down. Pity she wasn’t wearing a seat belt.
Diana was set up.
Harry & Meghan know better than to move to LA.
I guess none of us should be surprised at this group of privileged, pampered, mediocre people who believe in their bloodline superiority. Don’t know why people keep buying into the “sweet old grandma” schtick. Entitled, craven, arrogant. She’s Royal, she’s better than us, as is he. Why should they have to bend to us peasants?
Why won’t anyone call her out on this? It’s mind boggling to me. Not only is she not called out, but you’ve got the British media talking abouymt how wise she is and how brilliant it is for her to rehab poor Andrew’s image? Wtf?! Where are the statements from women’s groups? Where are the statements from organizations fighting against sex trafficking and child exploitation? It’s just stunning to me how these people get away with literally everything! Serious question, is there anyone in the British media with real influence who’s not a damn royalist?
Big picture, Harry and Meghan will be on the right side of history because I think the British monarchy might truly be done for – especially if King Charles, His Royal Tamponess takes the throne. When the queen dies, the dutiful sort of benign affection people have for what she stands for is going to die with her.
It’s probably safe to assume the dumpster fire that is Andrew’s life figured in H&M’s decision to hit the road, at least a little bit. Events and attitudes have converged, and I can’t see someone like Meghan making nice with a kiddie rapist.
Charles may be a mess in his personal life, and an enabler to his manipulative, petty elder son. But he has been the most effective Duke of Cornwall and Prince of Wales the UK has ever seen. Heaven help the tenants of The Duchy of Cornwall, because William will run it into the ground.
I would imagine he will keep the same board in place as Charles has at the moment. They have done very well for the Duchy, it was barely in profit when Charles came to be Duke and it is very successful now. I wonder who will take over the Prince’s Trust which has also done very well.
Wow England has serious mental disorders! Queen Elizawitch is a cold hearted, selfish piece of garbage. The vultures will start fighting amongst themselves next month! I’m sure it has stated. The RR were sharks in the water waiting for the Sussex! The monarchy, RR and the cyber bullies would have gotten worse this New year. They wanted Meghan out and they couldn’t killing her so they trashed her for 3 years. The verbal abuse continues and it’s disgusting. These people have no goddamn empathy. This transition phase is pure bullshit. They want them to fail like Sarah. They want them running back with their tails between their legs. News Flash ain’t happening. I hope Meghan never returns to that cess of a pool. Their done ain’t royal about these idiots. Trailer trash living in castles. Their GHETTO without the fabulous!
England or the RF
Andrew has been his mother’s defacto escort/companion since Prince Philip effectively left her to live out the rest of his years with the love of his life Penny Brabourne. They can call it retirement all they want but I think Philip checked out of the marriage a long time ago. I don’t buy they are just good friends either because why would a lovely woman in her 60’s spend all of her time with a 97 yr old man unless they were in a relationship. Andrew is clearly filling an emotional void in Elizabeth’s life which makes her even more blind and protective. This is no excuse whatsoever but the private royal family is in a mess.
These are some good points. Hasn’t it been suggested he has been with Penny for 30+ years and she lives separately from her husband?
Why can’t the queen rely on any of her other children? I get why not Charles, but what about Edward or Anne?
Andrew isn’t married and her favourite. She likely prefers his company and he well knows what side his bread is buttered on.
I don’t think the Queen is upset about Penny, they often go to Church together when the Queen is at Sandringham and Penny leaves Philip at Wood Farm on the Sandringham estate. The Queen and Philip have led separate lives for years, and when old Phil finally retired from public duties the Queen appeared visibly delighted during public engagements not to have Philip dragging behind her and reminding him to wave and behave.
If she was not Queen they would have divorced years ago.
I don’t think we’d ever know how the Queen feels. She puts on a happy face to meet the Trumps and I don’t think she smiled once at Harry and Meghan’s wedding (maybe she wasn’t enjoying having to be with Philip). I do think she genuinely enjoys Ascot.
But she’s human and needs support, her creep Son is filling a void and she doesn’t care if the world knows it.
Andrew is an opportunist. He probably jumped in the car last minute as it was pulling away, knowing that Charles was distracted with the Harry/Meghan deal.
I foresee a plot line in The Windsors with exiled Pedo Andy photo bombing official Royal events as a way to stay relevant.
Good God, they’re using the utterly heartbreaking spectacle of that young family’s (fully justified) flight from England TO SHORE UP THIS SWINE ???!!!!
I can’t… even…
“‘Tower of strength’ for the queen” is a really weird way of spelling “rapist”
Well he’s not raping her and she likely doesn’t believe he’s guilty or worse doesn’t care. Elizabeth doesn’t have much in the way of emotional intelligence or personal insight which may well be her undoing. If she were in the least bit introspective she might be able to understand how bad this is but she is very blind. Too bad Porchy wasn’t alive.
I can even begin with Andrew (refuse to call him a prince). I can’t begin to understand why Parliament hasn’t done anything regarding his situation. Let’s set aside his disgusting relationship with Jeffrey Espstein. He set up a company and while he was working on behalf of the Queen as the trade ambassador for the UK he brokered deals for his friends and money was directed into the shell companies he set up. He also forwarded government documents to his friends!?! Where is the outrage? Where are the stories calling for his HRH? I just don’t get it. They have proof of this. And yet nothing. They are more concerned with riding Harry and Meghan out. Saying they are just going for a money grab and bring shame to the royals. HELLO!?! Andrew has done shady deals with people with horrific human rights issues and yet crickets. The reporters say they have written about it, but if you compare the tone of the coverage of Andrew vs Harry and Meghan, the tone with Andrew is much more revering. He has done nothing but take,take,take, and is widely known as a first rate jerk to all (unless you have $ you are willing to give him). I just don’t get it. Harry, who has served the military with honor and has done so much to help veterans can’t wear the uniform and has to give up his military appointments, but the scum Andrew still has his posts and can wear the uniform. So disappointed in the Queen and Charles and William. As they have proven this week with Harry they can act swiftly to remove appointments from the Queen and Military positions, they should do the same with Andrew. They just don’t have any moral courage. Or they are more rotten than we know. As Harry said in his speech last night, “So, I want you to hear the truth from me, as much as I can share…” The as much as I can share speaks volumes.
It will also be interesting to see if Andrew visits the US or France anytime soon. I HIGHLY doubt it. I think he would be in for a nasty surprise. He is untouchable in the UK.
My mother is often frustrating with her opinions and I wasn’t quite sure how she would fall, but she is furious that Harry has to stop using HRH and Andrew gets to keep his. She thinks it is vile and disgusting (which it is) and her opinions are often pretty basic and she is easily led by PR (she was also excited by the Pitt/Aniston photo as an example) and she is still absolutely aghast with the monarchy over this, particularly the Queen.
These people are disgusting, the glee with which they tore down a young family while elevating this POS is really something to behold.
This is disgusting. The queen is an idiot, if I were British I would be furious at having to pay a single tax dollar toward these fools. Hopefully this will spell the beginning of the end of the monarchy.
This is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. I hope the monarchy ends for no other reason except this. F-ck this sh-t. F-ck this family.
I’ll never ever look at the RF in the same way again. Won’t step up for Meghan but will support this predator?! #abolishthemonarchy
The 93 year old Queen is still driving. A huge Land Rover. Even after her 98 year old hubby t-boned some poor woman and her child. In photos she is shown grim-faced, clutching onto the steering wheel which she is barely able to see over nowadays. With a security person in the passenger seat.
Doesn’t this tell us all we need to know? She does whatever she wants to do, despite what her security people or anyone else wants. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that she DEMANDS that she drive.
Andrew is her rock? Oh, I’ll just bet he is. Charles better keep an eagle eye on that situation because based on his past, Andrew will grasp whatever he can get from the aged monarch.
What a shit show! Harry and Meghan definitely, definitely made the right decision!
Yup. I’m done with these people. I’m American, loved the idea of the royal family all my life… but I’m done. So disgusted.