Duchess Kate felt ‘so isolated’ in Wales after she gave birth to Prince George

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge walks out of 'Cath's Cottage' during her visit to the Ely & Caerau Children's Centre in Cardiff, south Wales on January 22, 2020 as she launches a UK wide survey to help improve early childhood.

Here are more photos of the Duchess of Cambridge in Cardiff yesterday, the second stop for her big Early Years initiative, which (at the moment) consists of a basic five-question survey. Yes, it’s kind of embarrassing that this is all Kate has to show for EIGHT YEARS (that’s what they claim) of work in this field. I still don’t understand why they had to hype the hell out of this to the point where people were expecting… a lot more than a five-question survey. They could have just said “Kate is focusing on early childhood development and she will do many events around this particular interest.” That’s it. Because let me tell you, the photos are better than the initiative. Kate looks engaged with the parents and the kids here, at the Ely & Caerau Children’s Centre. So, just do that. Anyway, Kate also spoke about how “isolated” she felt when George was a baby and she and William were living in Wales:

Kate Middleton is speaking out about the “isolation” she felt as a new mother. The 38-year-old royal spoke with workers from a children and parents center in Cardiff, Wales, on Wednesday as she promoted her new groundbreaking survey on the early years of kids’ lives. She and husband Prince William lived in Wales when they were first married, where he was stationed with the Royal Air Force.

“It’s nice to be back in Wales,” Kate said. “I was chatting to some of the mums. It was the first year and I’d just had George — William was still working with search and rescue — and we came up here and I had a tiny, tiny baby in the middle of Anglesey. It was so isolated, so cut off. I didn’t have any family around, and he was doing night shifts. So…if only I had had a center like this.”

The mom of three was visiting the innovative Ely and Careau Children’s Centre in an economically challenged area of the Welsh capital, where parents can get support as well as enroll their kids into the kindergarten.

“I see amazing work you’re doing here in so many areas,” she said. “It’s just bringing it to light. The critical work you’re doing has a massive social — and economic — impact later down the years.”

One of the center’s workers talked about how they tried to accommodate the concerns of parents who have questions raising their kids “this way or that way.” Kate said with a smile, “That’s why I wanted to do the survey. Unless parents are supported, it makes the job that much harder.”

[From People]

I remember when she had George and she spent a lot of time that first year in Berkshire with her parents. She even moved in with her parents for about eight weeks so that Carole could help, and William stayed there off-and-on too. And… I just looked up the timeline, actually – by the fall of 2013 (Kate gave birth to George that summer), William had left the RAF and Wales and they were mostly in London. That’s when William started auditing classes at Cambridge University, remember that? It was his “gap year.” That was all during George’s first year. What I’m saying is that I believe Kate absolutely felt isolated when George was a baby, which is why she went to Bucklebury so often. Also, it was like William was trying to isolate her when she was a new mother. Poor Kate.

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge meets mothers and children during her visit to the Ely & Caerau Children's Centre in Cardiff, south Wales on January 22, 2020 as she launches a UK wide survey to help improve early childhood.

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge (C) chats with mothers and babied during her visit to the Ely & Caerau Children's Centre in Cardiff, south Wales on January 22, 2020 as she launches a UK wide survey to help improve early childhood.

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge chats with children during her visit to the Ely & Caerau Children's Centre in Cardiff, south Wales on January 22, 2020 as she launches a UK wide survey to help improve early childhood.

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  1. Maria says:

    Didn’t he live in Cambridge during that bespoke course too?

    • goofpuff says:

      I thought they dropped it because he couldn’t even be bothered to attend any of the bespoke courses.

  2. Mac says:

    I wonder if the queen had a health scare in 2013. Auditing classes at Cambridge was to prepare William to take over the duchy of Cornwall.

  3. Mumbles says:

    Didn’t his childhood nanny move in at some point to “help out”? I’m not sure if that was when they were still in Wales.

    • (TheOG)@jan90067 says:

      They also had a live in housekeeper up there. Didn’t Kate also refuse to join any of the other service wives on base while up there? And there were pics of Carole driving up to stay with them weeks at a time.

    • BeanieBean says:

      I seem to remember a nanny in the car on one of her many drives down to Bucklebury (pap photos of a rest stop on the way home). And I don’t see Kate reaching out to state agencies (“if only I had had a center like this”) for help, she always went home…because she could, I suppose.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        @ guest — I don’t think anyone is saying it’s wrong for a new mom to stay with their own mother. But I think it’s disingenuous for Kate to imply that she had nowhere to turn for help when she, in fact, had her family that she could *and did* turn to.

      • Amy Too says:

        But guest, she specifically made it sound like she was stuck in Wales without her family. With no one around to support her. When she wasn’t. She went home for weeks at a time, as you said, and her family came to visit and stay with her.

      • Hope says:

        @Guest. She clearly didn’t say any of the things you threw at her.

        Kate wouldn’t use a state agency. Her comment doesn’t ring true. I wish Kate would actually speak to her own experience. Admit all the help she had, including that she was with a nanny and night nurse and then say I still felt isolated because that is her true experience.

      • M says:

        It sounded like she meant to be around other new moms. And sure that might be magical thinking in that practically speaking she could never have just gone to a community center without it being a big deal, but that doesn’t mean that she wouldn’t have wished for it to be possible and therefore understand how beneficial it is to other women. Isolation and not having peers to relate to is probably the biggest negative in the life of a royal. Plus having just become a mom, it must have been rough. No amount of logistical support will change that.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Reminding again. Best way to deal with trolls on here is to reply, once, with the word ‘troll’ in the body of the comment.

      • Deedee says:

        After my brother, the first of us siblings, was born, my mother was said to have gone into a deep depression and left my father to move in with her mother for 6 months. Kate didn’t have easy pregnancies, and it is possible that she could have suffered from postpartum depression and needed to be with her parents/family for support.

  4. Emily says:

    Kate is definitely work shy and Im sure he next vacay after all this “work” will be a long one. But I am glad she’s shining a light on early year centres. In Ontario we have government funded EarlyOn Centres and I go to it with my daughter about 3-4 days a week. It gives me a chance to socialize with other moms and my daughter a chance to interact with other kids (and play in a baby proofed area so I can relax more than at home). We didn’t start going until she was 6 months old and I wish I’d gone sooner. It made a big difference with the sense of isolation.

    • PrincessK says:

      I believe the Cambridges are off skiing soon, no doubt we will have some cute family pics for the front pages.

  5. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    She spoke before about how William wasn’t around for most of George’s first year, so I’ve no doubt she felt isolated. I’m not a Kate fan but I still feel for her there. That loneliness is so hard, whether it’s your first baby or your fifth. I’m still hoping for more out of this initiative. She could really do some good work here if she chose to.

    • Nahema says:

      The first baby is a huge adjustment for most women too. I can imagine it must have been really tough in Wales.

    • Erinn says:

      And we all know that the BRF isn’t the kind of family that’s open and welcoming of emotions. I feel for her too. Yes, she is living a life of privilege. But I feel so bad for any woman struggling with the kind of isolation that often comes with the first baby.

    • Chrissyms says:

      Her life is probably lonely in a lot of ways. Like seeing Pippa, her brother and parents drinking champagne and romping around at the beach on vacation in those photos at Christmas time really made me realize that. I am sure she would have rather been doing that then at Sandringham with her in-laws . I know that’s what she signed up for but there is a loneliness involved with the gig.

      • MeghanNotMarkle says:

        Absolutely. It has to be a very lonely existence even when you’re surrounded by staff and other people. Privilege doesn’t automatically bring happiness. I wouldn’t want to be in that fishbowl with that family.

      • liriel says:

        That’s why I believe Pippa got a better deal. Not an aristo but aristos laughed at Carole for her background. He’s rich but no aristo so no entitlement. Also she’s free to do whatever while Kate has to deal with all the palace stuff and PR.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I have always thought that Pippa got the better deal.

      • Carrie says:

        Even more reason for there to have been support – public’s support from her for Meghan when M was being bashed daily. Especially from a person who has studied the effects of the “early years” which would include pregnancy.

      • MeghanNotMarkle says:

        @Carrie She absolutely should have supported Meghan. I’m not denying that. But it doesn’t diminish her own experience just because she decided to be a sh*t SIL.

      • Lady D says:

        This is also one of the very few times she hasn’t been with her family on that beach.

    • Maria says:

      I think that’s great that she is talking about this. It’s a very lonely time, and you think you are the only one going through this. I feel for her too.

      • Elisa says:

        +1, I hope she continues to talk about her struggles because people can actually relate to that. Also, the pics ARE great, there are even better ones on Insta, and “Kate is focusing on early childhood development and she will do many events around this particular interest.” would have been so much better than the 5 questions.

    • Jules says:

      She has more help than most people can only dream of, she was living in Wales not the heart of the Amazon, and she spent a lot of time with her family. Eventually she made the sort of friends she wanted (younger members of the aristocracy) and she and William socialize with these people, not local moms attending a government-funded playgroup. To paraphrase the Daily Mail in re Meghan Markle when she mentioned being treated horribly by the press and no one in the royal family came to her aide: “She knew what she signed up for.” And Kate chased it for a decade. She’s lucky none of her children were called a chimp and her every move was not wrongly criticized. She got a little flak, but NOTHING compared to Meghan whom she did not lift a finger to defend.

  6. Jess says:

    Me thinks this is another spin to make Meghan look horrible. All week, throughout all of YouTube, I keep seeing British channels headline videos asking if Harry and Meghan should have stuck it out or things like megxit is the end of Harry and Meghan. This is another attempt to prop up the Cambridges. That look Kate stuck it out despite being isolated as a mother that’s why they’ve lasted over 10 years.

    It’s horrible that she was isolated though. But this shit is too obvious.

    • February Pisces says:

      I think it’s defiant shade aimed at Harry and Meghan. It’s her way of saying she ‘stuck it out’ unlike Meghan who left. Even if she didn’t ‘mean it”, that’s how it will be interpreted by the press.

      • Enny says:

        But it makes her look worse. As a mum who felt isolated during her child’s first year, she sat by silently and watched while another mum (her sister in law, no less) felt isolated, and either actively contributed (or silently acquiesced) to a tabloid smear campaign against her s-i-l while her s-i-l already felt isolated. Remember Meghan saying in their doc that no one even asked if she was ok? That was partially aimed at Kate. And then here’s Kate, trotting out this survey, touting the importance of helping new moms feel less isolated. I can’t.

      • Shannon Bullock says:

        I rolled my eyes so hard over this. Give me a fucking break, Kate. I think Sussexit has made it very clear how snotty and unkind Kate and William are and I cannot stand them at this point.

      • L4frimaire says:

        @Enny, totally agree. She barely showed any empathy to a Meghan and then she says this. I’m so tired of her and the rest of them. No matter how the press spin this, they all look bad and at this stage, opportunistic. It’s like they’re picking bits off the carcass Sussexes platform and while never once acknowledging them. So sick of it.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Enny, Maybe Meghan did not want Cathy Cambridge around her???

    • Feeshalori says:

      I agree. I’m not going to dispute about Kate’s experiences as a first-time mom. But the departure of Harry and Megan has left a void which is useful for good Cambridge PR. The implication is that if she could hang on as a first-time mother in isolation so could Meghan. But at least Kate had her supportive family, unlike Meghan. The shade is obvious and undoubtedly we’re going to see more of this going forward.

    • Nic919 says:

      If Kate felt isolated with a new baby when she still could go stay with her parents a few hours away, then how must Meghan have felt being half a continent away from her mom, her only real family, in a country that is foreign to her and with the media attacking her every move, even when on mat leave from duties. The lack of compassion for her sister in law is glaring.

      • Alexandria says:

        Exactly Nic. If she was a friend to Meghan and showed support and told William to stop his nonsense, I think Harry and Meghan would have appreciated it. So this confession makes her look…not so good.

      • MeghanNotMarkle says:

        Kate won’t rock the boat and I do find her at fault for helping to make things so miserable for Meghan. I feel for Kate and her experience but to turn around and essentially do the same to her SIL is reprehensible. She has no spine.

  7. Yvette says:

    I just recall them spending an awful lot of time with Kate’s family. Isn’t that the time-block when Charles complained about not being able to see his grandson?

  8. TeamAwesome says:

    Which makes the treatment of Meghan so puzzling. She had those experiences with her first baby, saw Meghan in an even more isolated situation, an ocean away from most of her friends and family, and did what exactly? Maybe Meghan was like, nope, leave me alone I got this, but if that was the case I don’t think she would have pointed out how rarely she was asked if she was ok.

  9. Swack says:

    Sorry, but she had means and places she could go if she felt isolated. So don’t feel that bad for her. The ones I feel empathy for are those who don’t have the means and a way to escape the isolation they are in.

    • Chrissy says:

      Well said, Swack. Cry me a river, indeed!

      • Laura says:

        Everybody’s idea of isolation is different.
        She had a nanny and household help, scads of cash and options, a helicopter mom/grandma. Hard to believe Will was that much hands on help when around but who knows.

      • Dee says:

        She also had a personal trainer, hair and makeup stylists to help her feel better, places to walk and swim in total privacy, meals cooked for her, laundry all done, money to treat herself to whatever she wanted. They jetted off on vacations while George was a baby.

      • Hope says:

        @Guest. Marry for money, girls!

        Thanks Carole. And thanks for acknowledging that the money needs to come from the man.

      • Becks1 says:

        What Kate has IS rare. Step outside your bubble, @Guest. Just because you insist its normal in your circle (and we have no reason to believe that, btw) doesn’t mean its normal overall. The majority of people do not have millions and millions at their disposal and no requirement to work.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Reminder – Best way to deal with trolls on here is to reply, once, with the word ‘troll’ in the body of the comment.

  10. Sofia says:

    She’s said this before, during the Australia Tour (2014 I believe) and said that William wasn’t around much during George’s first 6 months

    But I thought her parents moved in to help?

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      If Carole is as domineering as my own mother was when my first was born, it’s possible that she took over caring for George and pushed Kate off to the side, thinking she was helping. I felt like my baby wasn’t my own for the longest time and was so lonely, even being surrounded by people. We don’t know exactly what happened but given Carole’s know “momager” proclivities, I wouldn’t be surprised if things had ended up that way.

  11. OH NO says:

    It’s been so long, what is the point of putting this story out?

    Despite the main subject being Kate, they should be doing everything in their power to keep their son’s name out of the press.

  12. Myra says:

    Can someone please tell Kate her rise in popularity was due to Meghan haters. Now that a Meghan is going it’s back to normal for her…NO ONE CARES

  13. Bonner says:

    Meghan had her first baby in May 2019 in the UK. She was far from her mom and close friends. Also at that time, the UK papers were extremely critical of her. In spite of any privilege she had, one could say she was isolated. When she did mention her struggles at the end of the South Africa tour, she was torn apart by the press. So there is Kate, with all of her “early years” research and knowledge, as well as her personal experience of feeling so isolated when she had George (in spite of any privilege she had). She also received bad press at that time for being “work shy”. With all of this experience and knowledge, did Kate do anything to help Meghan during her challenging times as a new mom? Was Kate concerned about Archie’s early years? Kate is now stating publicly that It was so hard to be a new mom. Is the UK press calling her out for “complaining?”

    • swirlmamad says:

      All great points. If Kate was so isolated during George’s first year, she more than anyone should have been willing to lend an ear and a hand to Meghan as she would know exactly how she was feeling. So…forgive me if I don’t feel much sympathy for Kate (now). However, as a mother who had both her kids during the cold winter months and was cooped up till spring and definitely struggled with PPA, I can empathize with what she went through back then.

    • Chrissyms says:

      I thought there was a story that Megan was not really interested in Kate or her advice. Like they just didn’t really get along or were just really different people ?

      • Yup, Me says:

        Well, Kate’s response to pressure appears to be quietly acquiescing acceptance, being up under her mom, not working.

        Meghan’s response seems to be doing great work, fighting back (ie lawsuits) and then telling toxic folks to kiss her ass.

        Those are fundamentally different approaches that are hard to overcome. I can’t imagine what I would do if a privileged little girl woman tried to give me advice about handling adversity. I don’t think it would go well for her.

        Also, I bet the reason this “launch” looks so thrown together with that pitiful survey is that the royals knew pressure was going to be on with Harry and Meghan’s departure and she was told she had a couple/few weeks to come up with SOMEthing, ANYthing. And they don’t really “help” each other so she just had to figure it out with her team.

      • MsIam says:

        Well if Meghan felt that the leaks were coming from KP/W&K can you blame her for not trusting or accepting help from Kate? If that is even true that she reached out? To me this seems like a combo of gaslighting/CYA from Coatdress.

      • Elisa says:

        @Yup,Me: IMO you are spot on, Kate and Meghan are polar opposites. I have family members (in laws) like that and we all know and accept that we will never be close.

  14. Becks1 says:

    I can believe this, those early months of motherhood can be incredibly isolating sometimes. I know women who loved it because they were going to all these new mom GTGs and baby playgroups etc, but I had PPD and just generally I have social anxiety, so I was not going to find a mom group online and then go to one of their coffee meet-ups or walk into a center full of people I didn’t know, etc. I bring that up bc I do think Kate has some social anxiety, and from other things she has said I wonder if she had PPD as well. It just compounds the situation.

    And I definitely get the vibe that William is not the most involved parent, even now. (I think he loves his kids and they love him, but I imagine there very clear lines in that household about what he is going to do.)

  15. TheOriginalMia says:

    I don’t feel sorry for her. She had support. She had family that she lived with during that time. She was never truly on her own. Centers like this exist for people who don’t have the resources she takes for granted. Acknowledge your privilege and stop insulting these people. And it’s not just the wealth, it’s the complete family unit and support that’s constantly at her disposal. I may not think much of the Middletons but they are a loving family.

  16. khaveman says:

    Why in the world is this boo hoo story coming up now? Oh yeah – distract from them driving Harry and Meg out and Will’s affair. “Humanizing” Kate more. Her questionnaire seems pretty thin and useless? She’ll be fine and like why are we bringing up something from so long ago.

  17. Jodi says:

    If she felt isolated I certainly feel for her but in lieu of that, you would think that she would be particularly concerned about the isolation and bullying Meghan was experiencing in the months following the birth of Archie. But surprise… there was crickets from Kate that whole time.

  18. Jane says:

    I’m not a fan, but even I can see she is in her element with young children. She looks honest and at ease.

    • carmen says:

      Cameras are on and she is surrounded by people watching her every move, of course she is going to act engaged and interested. Problem is, it usually looks forced – i.e. exaggerated hand gestures, over the top laughing, maniacal grin, etc.

      • Marie says:

        Exactly. The kids always just stare at her. With Harry and Meghan the kids are hugging them and seem very engaged.

        Also, I find it hard to take this project from Kate seriously. She is focusing on early years and pregnancy and Meghan was clearly struggling and nothing from Kate. No thanks, not buying it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Like William being publicly against cyberbullying, William finding racism ‘boring’. Never practice what they preach for PR.

    • Jamie says:

      I agree. She always looks a lot more relaxed and happy when she’s around children.

      • aria says:

        there is a say that if a much older guys date you (more than 10 years differences) then that guy some problem with women of his age. dating a younger woman means he can mould them t whatever way he wants. same with kate, talking to people of her age means you have to say something intelligent or understandable. kate has none of it, she can’t even put two words together and Conway the message. with kids you don’t need to talk much, just can get away with dumb facial expression because their attention span is very low. plus she is only comfortable around white kids, even you look at kids of color her body language and facial expression are very different and she won’t be that engaged other than the funny face.

      • Hope says:

        I just realized that she actually makes those same dumb facial expressions at William. She engages with him as if he were a toddler!

        Kate must be an absolute expert.
        She’s had twenty years of experience with this.

      • notasugarhere says:

        aria, that is a good point. They have focused on sending her to engagement with children, because she cannot function in a professional way with adults. The younger the kids, the better, since 5+ years old they know enough to spot a fake.

    • Elisa says:

      I agree, she looks at ease and happy here (same when doing sth sporty).

  19. Well-Wisher says:

    It took eight years to create five questions, during that period the tories introduced austerity that was detrimental to especially children. In contrast to the Together cookbook – simply incredible.
    Is “Being alone after birth” an attempt to be relatable?
    If so, it failed.

  20. Snap Happy says:

    Means, support, friends all help with the transition to being a first-time mother but it isn’t everything. Most new moms struggle with the feelings inside their heads – isolation, anxiety, etc. because of that I don’t begrudge any woman talking about their experiences. There is space in the conversation for Kate’s feelings. She is normalizing it. Having a baby is not always the Disney/Pinterest/sitcom joy that new moms are bombarded with on a daily basis. Is she shading Meghan? Maybe, but she is also in the right element to share these feelings. If she spoke about this at a State dinner then that would be weird.

  21. Toot says:

    Too bad Kate didn’t think about her sister-in-law who was truly isolated and basically only had Harry.

    I say this because Kate hasn’t shown one once of support for Meghan when Meghan was daily being compared to “perfect” Kate.

  22. Jamie says:

    I’m just here to point out that the baby with the glasses and the coat is too cute for words. :)

  23. Lora says:

    But still she kept having kids with hm… why would someone do that?!

  24. leigh says:

    So why not do a new mom initiative instead of this wide-reaching “research” project on early years. Isolation, PPD, exhaustion, change in self-image/body in new moms are all great topics to bring attention to. Plus, if she has a personal experience with isolation it is easier to come off as empathetic. She has no personal experience with a rough beginning/childhood. Just picked it out of a hat it seems.

    It really looks like she just wants tons and tons of photo ops with cute children. Where are the photographs of the prisoners she met with? Not cute enough?

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      And she’s still pushing this narrative that only children from “broken” homes grow up to have issues. That really gets my goat.

    • Amy Too says:

      The entire thing could be her helping to open a bunch of these mom and baby places in towns all over Britain. They can start as places for mothers and babies to connect and get help with things like isolation, PPD, PPA, and just get general information about how to raise a baby. There could be a nurse that visits once a week or something. The Visiting Nurses model is so beneficial for moms and babies and can help catch any developmental delays or illnesses more quickly.

      Then, once the babies are older, maybe these places expand into high quality early childhood education preschools. Wouldn’t that be amazing? Kate could start now, trying to reach every mom and new baby in Britain, and then as the kids grow, the program expands to meet their needs as toddlers and young children.

      It would be great for Kate because she’d be doing one thing over and over and over again so it wouldn’t be new and scary and she wouldn’t have to think about it. Fundraising galas and garden tea parties with people who will pay to see a princess to build/rent/open a space and hire the nurses/whoever runs these places. Then a big opening day ribbon cutting event. Then visits. If she did this for the rest of her life, she could open hundreds of these places and she would always have a place to visit that was connected to her initiative no matter what part of the U.K. she was in.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Maybe that survey should have been to gather suggestions for what projects Kate should be doing…since they can’t seem to nail it on their own!

  25. BeanieBean says:

    Hey! She took her coat off!

  26. kerwood says:

    Then she should have had more sympathy for Meghan. This just confirms how selfish AND self involved she and Normal Bill are.

    • liriel says:

      But if she couldn’t make her husband be with his own kid more then how could she make him do something about Meghan? She’s powerless.

      • Lady D says:

        Not in the press she isn’t.

      • MsIam says:

        Looks like she is only powerless when it comes to Will’s wandering willy. Otherwise, it really looks like what Kate wants, Kate gets.

      • kerwood says:

        Keen Katie isn’t powerless, she’s weak. She’s so desperate to be Queen Consort, she’ll do anything including letting her husband get a bit of strange when he wants and even sell out a pregnant woman who could have used a friend.

        The interesting thing is that Kate cosplays Diana all the time but she should be following the example of the last Queen Consort, QEII’s mother. Anyone who has seen ‘The King’s Speech’ (over-rated film) knows how strong she was and how she supported her husband. This was a woman who stood up to the Nazis and refused to leave her husband’s side during the Blitz. When Buckingham Palace was bombed, she said she was glad because now she could look the East End of London in the face.

        Kate is bought and paid for.

  27. liriel says:

    Kate seems basic yet difficult for me to analyse. Like other royal/celebs seems easier and more “coherent”. Sporty, competitive, social climber, into parties when younger yet work-shy, lazy, stepford-wife and genuinely into kids a lot.
    Her whole life since university was William it shaped her. I have no idea who she is at her core.

  28. locamg says:

    Being a parent is so hard. I have all the help in the world, but having a child was the most shocking, life-changing experience EVER. The total lack of sleep, the fact you have basically NO time to yourself, your life is a former shell of what it was, your body needs to heal from a MAJOR physical experience but you have to take care of a helpless tiny human. Oh, and throw in crazy hormones?! I can’t throw any shade at her for this. She is wealthy and privileged, but having a new baby is tough. Let’s support EVERY woman and empathize vs. being jerks to one another. Yes, other people have it 293854 times harder, but that doesn’t take away from the fact it’s hard. We can sympathize/empathize with Meghan but not Kate even a tiny bit? That seems to be pretty crappy and demeaning to the experience of women.

    • MsIam says:

      I will turn that question around to you then. Couldn’t she sympathize/empathize one tiny bit with Meghan? You know she is all for putting forth initiatives and doing great things when it makes her look good but it appears that if she feels if it’s nothing in it for her, you get *crickets*. People want to act like she is under William’s thumb and so weak. Everything I have read about Kate says that she is super competitive and wants to win. If the goal is to best her sister-in-law in top dog of the royal women then this behavior fits that narrative perfectly.

    • kerwood says:

      And with all that being said, Keen Katie left a pregnant woman, with few friends and NO family in England, alone to fend for herself. I have no sympathy for a woman like that.

  29. Elle says:

    That second picture of Kate, where she’s crouched down and looking and listening intently at the mother with baby in arms who is speaking to her, is the best picture of Kate I’ve ever seen, IMO.

    Kate looks so real and so beautiful.

  30. RoyalBlue says:

    I can’t take anything she says seriously when she participated in the isolation of the Sussexes and Meghan in particular. Remember in November when an insider spitefully said that no one in the family is speaking to them?

  31. Senator Fan says:

    I can relate to the feeling of isolation after childbirth as many other women have. At what should be the happiest time of your life can also be so depressing and lonely. Those feelings can manifest into other more serious issues if left unaddressed. This is an important conversation and it needs to be talked about more. Discussing this with other women is important as at times you think you’re the only one going through it.

  32. Carolind says:

    I am no Kate fan but maybe she had the kind of relationship with Meghan where she was just too far away emotionally to offer help or would have felt it was an insult to Meghan. Meghan had all these friends at her wedding. Maybe Kate thought they would help. Also William and Harry did not see each other for six months. We don’t know what was going on.

    Also just as the DM readers idolise Kate, this site idolises Meghan. Some of the comments on here about Kate are so nasty it makes me cringe that women could write this about another woman. Equally, what DM readers say about Meghan is appalling. Can we not just recognise them as human beings trying to do their best?

    To add, the British people I know couldn’t care less about either. Making a remark last night in company about Meghan being on the west coast of Canada no-one in the company knew this. Neither Kate nor Meghan are deemed important.

    • notasugarhere says:

      From what I remember of the majority of your posts, you are a vehement Kate fan.

      Go back and read CB for the years before Meghan showed up. CB and Kaiser have always had valid criticisms of Kate, her laziness, her press games. Simply because this one site doesn’t kiss Kate’s ass, so many of you come on here and complain about it.

      • Carolind says:

        Is it me you are talking to? Yeah, I am the person that comments on Kate on the DM online criticising her work ethic and the readers for idolising her, so…very pro Kate.

        I actually cannot bear people being knocked down or idolised. So defend Kate here, criticise her on DM online.

        Thing to remember no human is perfect, none all bad so…moderation, moderation, moderation.

        One last thing, the reason I first came on this site was because I deliberately googled somewhere that reflected my own views on Kate but just, at times, it gets a bit much especially about the appearance.

    • Amy Too says:

      But weren’t most of Meghan’s good friends American? They couldn’t be there for her on a day to day basis. And maybe Kate and Meghan weren’t that close before Archie, but a new baby is a great reason to reach out. She doesn’t even need to be having heart to hearts with Meghan and offering advice and guidance. She could have just offered to come over and hang out so Meghan could shower and take a nap. She could’ve asked if baby Archie wanted to come do something with the Cambridge kids. She could have brought over some of the old William and Harry baby clothes that she had. She could’ve asked to take Meghan out for coffee or lunch just so she could leave her house for awhile. I would think the onus would be on the person who has lived in the U.K. all her life and has been in the family for 10 years to make the first move to be welcoming to the woman who is in a new country, without any of her friends of family, who is newlywed, a new and first time mom, and who is new to the RF. Or at the very least Kate could’ve told her mom to quit embiggening her and beating down Meghan in the press.

      • swirlmamad says:

        I agree with ALL this. Maybe Meghan can be perceived as being more “worldly” while Kate is “sheltered”, but in the instance of navigating a new life as the mom of a newborn in the RF, Kate had been there, done that and it would have taken NO effort for her to invite Meghan over for tea so they could chat about babies/mom stuff, let the cousins have some face time, whatever. Every mother knows how valuable and comforting it is to connect with other mothers in the same position as you. It was an easy and simple way for Kate to extend an olive branch and she failed, for whatever reasons only she knows. Lord knows she had/has the free time to act like she cared even a tiny bit, but clearly she didn’t.

      • yinyang says:

        Yes @Amy remember the polo event. Kate seemed so cold her back was towards Meghan the new mom and archie the whole time, I can’t believe it’s the same woman we’re seeing here.

    • Val says:

      Did you “cringe” when Meghan’s infant was caked a monkey? Girl, go take a few seats and leave your snowflake tears elsewhere!

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate shouldn’t be now looking for sympathy for being isolated years ago when she didn’t do anything to help out her sister in law, who really didn’t have the family and friends nearby like Kate did. William doesn’t control her movement that much.

    • Senator Fan says:

      @Carolind And we also don’t know if Kate did reach out and try and lend support in some way. We just don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. Kate may have very well have and perhaps Meghan didn’t want her help or they just didn’t bond. One could say Meghan could have reached out to Kate and say I could use a cup of tea and a chat or I have some questions and would love to get together and get your thoughts.

      Personally I think these two never bonded and were indifferent to each other. Two very different people with complete opposite lives and there was very high expectations for them all and were painted as the Fab Four. The brother’s issues clouded their wives relationship. But they were able to work together and attend events and do their job and be professional. It was never going to be that the four rode off into the sunset. And I feel the brothers have two very different paths in life and have certainly been raised as such. Being raised by an emotionally unavailable father and family after losing their mother in a tragic way has altered and changed their lives.

  33. jen says:

    The new mom emotions are never fully mitigated by help and money. But about William working nights – wasn’t that a 20 hour a week job?

    • Hope says:

      George cried a LOT when he was a baby. It was something to do with him needing more nutrition than most babies. It got better after they changed up his formula. But for months, that was the main comment we got from the other royals -loud, good set of lungs etc.

      I remember the engagement on a bus when William looked fresh as a daisy and Kate looked like the parent of a newborn. I sideeyed William so hard for that, even in having Kate make that appearance. She rarely goes out without being groomed to the nines so what happened there?

      But my theory is William avoided a lot of his responsibilities with George that first year because he couldn’t take the crying. There were a ton of rumors that their marriage was breaking down and the Maldives trip was meant to help them work on their marriage and reconnect.

      • Elisa says:

        I don’t have kids and I have no clue how parents do it. I’m already exhausted after hearing my best friend’s baby cry for a few minutes.

  34. Val says:

    So, knowing how isolating being a new mum in that family can be, you’d think she would help Meghan with the transition! Sorry but any empathy I felt for her evaporated when she and those awful lot of inbreds bullied Meg and Harry out of the UK.
    You reap what you sew.

  35. Catherine says:

    Those first several months with Prince George looked rough. During her first appearances, she looked tired and wrung out. I felt really bad for her. I feel bad for all new mothers during those months!

  36. yinyang says:

    And why she’s telling us now, when Meghan went through this recently not one word of support.

  37. Marigold says:

    I’m wondering why “isolated” is in scare quotes. She says she felt isolated. Why on earth would a woman’s confession of struggle get gaslit? I’m sick of that. Women cannot win for losing.

    As to her culpability in the treatment of Meghan, I 100% agree. I kept thinking, “One day, I’m going to open CB and I’ll see photos of Kate wearing one of the work capsule outfits from Meghan’s charity as a show of silent support.” Never happened…and that’s tragic.

  38. Tomorrow says:

    Kate isolated, please. She was with her parents the whole time after George was born and thereafter. Kate has never left her parents house and vice versa. They are always with her, never leaving her alone. Perhaps her comments were meant for someone who always leaves her just like the good old days. Girl you sign up for this so stop your complaints and get going.

  39. Miriam says:

    This is another KP PR trying to minimize the damage of her not speaking up or showing support for harry despite the countless times he PUBLICLY supported her.

    The audacity to say this when she benefited from the abuse that Meghan got. It wont work. If anything it showed the hypocrisy of reporting when Meghan talked about her struggles vs Kate.
    Her team must be panicking because they are out of scapegoats. Once Meghan is back to her work as a private individual it’ll be even MORE obvious how little keenkate does.

  40. kerwood says:

    I don’t think she’s that deep. With Keen Katie, there’s no ‘there’ there.

  41. Nic919 says:

    We know that she doesn’t have a strong work ethic. Her low engagement numbers since 2011 confirm that for us.