Yesterday, we discussed the extremely vague article at the Daily Mail, where some unnamed source said words about how Prince Harry is in talks with Goldman Sachs about… something. The theory was that he would give speeches, which would probably not be paid, but that it was all part of some kind of deal which would magically turn Harry into a billionaire. As I said, it was vague. And the purpose of the article was not to be informative, it was just to put “Harry” and “Goldman Sachs” in the same headline and wait for people to start screaming “HOW DARE THEY.” Honestly, it was so vague that I didn’t even think we would hear anything more about it one way or the other. Turns out, “sources close to Harry” want to clarify something though. They went to Harper’s Bazaar to dish:
Since Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan’s joint decision to step down as senior members of the royal family was announced last month, all eyes have remained on the Sussexes as they privately plan their next professional ventures. The latest theory in circulation, according to Page Six, is that Harry is reportedly in talks with multinational investment bank Goldman Sachs for a potential partnership and future guest-speaking gig for the company’s Talks at GS series. Previous high-profile celebrities who have taken part in the series have included Gwyneth Paltrow, Karlie Kloss, and Hillary Clinton.
Sources have confirmed to BAZAAR.com, however, that any potential partnership with Goldman Sachs dates back to before Harry’s departure as a working senior royal and is in conjunction with one of the Duke of Sussex’s many official patronages.
Discussions between the patronage and Goldman Sachs have been ongoing for about a year, a source tells us.
So… he has been talking to Goldman Sachs. And they’ve been talking for a year, and the talks obviously predate Sussexit. I wonder which of Harry’s patronages would draw interest from Goldman Sachs? I feel like… the Invictus Games would probably be the best bet? I can’t see Goldman Sachs being interested (in such a specific way) in Sentebale or any of Harry’s other patronages. Hm. Goldman Sachs sponsoring Invictus? That might be interesting. Or maybe this is all so vague because it’s for Harry’s weird “Travalyst” eco-travel/eco-tourism thing which no one really understands? Oooh. I bet that IS it.
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Why Goldman Sachs? Seems like a bad choice from a PR standpoint…
Honestly save that energy for the Cambridges.
The Sussexes are no longer working members of the royal family so they can do whatever they want.
What’s the Cambridges got to do with this?
And I agree with Ravensdaughter.
@bluebells, the Cambridges have to worry about public opinion. They’re public servants. Harry and Meghan aren’t. They can do whatever they want, WITH whoever they want.
@kerwood not if they want people to buy what they’re selling (“their branding”)
Still doesn’t make Goldman good for their brand or the health of their souls.
Let’s try to set the bar a bit higher for the Sussexes than “anyone who has a big check that will clear the bank” given how they want to stand for women, the environment, social justice, etc.
Yet another brand new name starting out early with the concern trolling?
Entirely predictable. I wonder how many of the trolls are over on the story extolling normal bill’s most excellent mental health? When I went through it earlier, they were conspicuously absent. Odd how they only appear on stories about M&H.
Or calling out Kate for her use of a private jet for her struggle survey PR?
I think that the new “plan” for the anti-Sussex camp is to pile on, criticize and generate mountains of negative publicity for any business/charity/friend/commercial venture associated with H&M. They are going to try to block them and make them fail. Since positive publicity is what H&M brings to the table the trolls might well be successful in trying to make certain that H&M flop.
In the space of a week Kate walks on a gym floor in high heels, takes a private jet, and Sophie wears black nail polish but no complaints.
@Ravensdaughter, why would Harry worry about PR? He’s not a game show contestant.
Harry has had three years of abuse from the general public via the message boards on the British tabloids. His own family didn’t step in to protect him. Why should he give a shit WHAT people think about how he lives his life? I happen to like Harry and Meghan very much. But I’d be VERY concerned if he was living his life to please me.
As long as his wife and son are safe and happy and love him, I think Harry will be fine.
Harry will fine because he will be even more wealthy than he is now. That said, it would be nice if he lived his words rather than just speaking them. Ditto with Meghan. She and Harry are a package deal. Let’s not blame one and let the other walk.
A family living off the proceeds of centuries of genocide, slavery and white supremacy is much worse PR.
Deleted. Zazu said it so much better below.
So branding isn’t really a “mind your own damn business” kind of thing. It actually requires shaping a public narrative about a corporation or public figure. Prospective networking partners and consumers these days are demanding more authenticity and consistancy. Look at all the effort that goes into to corporate social responsibility, public awareness campaigns, PR, social media presentation etc.
Obviously the opinions of their haters are already baked in. But there is a large group of supporters and an even larger group of undecideds who might be the viewers of their netflix productions, buyers of a sustainable fashion line, readers of books they write etc. And those are the people they need to convince about the integrity of their brand.
To be financially independent Harry and Meghan need a strong branding campaign which relies on potential stakeholders, consumers , investors and donors believing in the integrity of their narrative- which they say is engaging and connecting people to come together to address challenges like climate change, women’s empowerment, veteran opportunities etc. If Harry and Meghan fall flat on their faces by being inconsistent and hypocritical, they will have a harder struggle finding willing participants or consumers of their ventures over time. I don’t think we are there yet by any stretch but too many cozy partnerships with wall street banks and fancy galas but not enough philanthropic endeavors and meet and greets will gradually shape the narrative in the wrong direction. The point is they can’t do whatever they damn well please because they will rely on their public reputation to a large degree for their work (unless they live a life of leisure on private wealth without working but that doesn’t sound likely).
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NOTHING, Zazu , nothing is ever going to be enough for critics of H&M. They cannot travel, eat at a restaurant, go for a walk, hold their baby, work, not work, post on their site, do anything that pleases certain people.
They’d only like them if they went live in a cave and threw dirt in their faces, or maybe just Meghan, because ##freeHarry (eyeroll)
As for m y opinion, banks and such are not illegal criminal entities. They need to do charity and swerve towards better directions, so Harry having a great philanthropic project to benefit very appropriate recipients sounds good.
foreign Oil and mining companies caused and cause still lots of pain in my country. I am well aware. The national company has also caused destruction of environmental resources, but I still need gas to drive my car, I need products made with oil byproducts, such as plastic.
I cannot be a hypocrite and berate them while I am using things that hurt the environment too.
People are criticising them for things that very same people still do.
Thank you Ennie. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again — there is not one person living in at least a first world country that is not part of the problem. Unless you are living totally off the grid, we all buy or use something that is tainted somewhere along the line as it gets to us. When did either of the Sussexes agree to be the 2 people in all the world that are supposed to live a full life without compromising themselves just like the rest of us do.
You know Zazu, I get the concern. But those other options you described “ viewers of their netflix productions, buyers of a sustainable fashion line, readers of books they write etc.”, will also be criticized and they’ll be accused of cashing in on their name for that too. Also, those things take time to develop and ink, and those two prefer to produce results before unveiling a project. They will happen, but not right away. They may make few paid speeches, but doubt this means they’ll be all banks, all the time. I think they’ll be a bit eclectic in their choices regarding revenue and fund raising, as well as other things. Even saw a complaint about the Stanford visit because it wasn’t a Canadian university. I wouldn’t be surprised if they spoke to a few tech companies while they were there as well.
Goldman-Sachs wants to improve its image and off-set its taxed profits by financially supporting good works. H & M want private financial support for their foundation’s good works and want to establish their image as non-profit philanthropists who can be taken seriously by deep pocket donors. I dunno, it sounds like a win-win.
Make those connections Harry. Y’all are free!
Yes, they have to move quickly while the interest is there , they are still young and can consolidate their plans.
While I’m happy that they’re on their own, I am really disappointed to see they’ve chosen GS as a partner. It’s called The Vampire Bank for a reason.
Do we know EVERY SINGLE donor/sponsor that puts money into the Royal Foundation or the Prince’s Trust? If we don’t, where are all the questions and snooping into those organizations’ business and demands to know what their plans are, who they’re in bed with, who they’re meeting with, who are their sponsors etc etc? Where is the concern trolling re: optics for these organizations? The double standards from some here are mind numbing. Whatever Harry is doing for his foundation is not new, he and his brother and their father have done the same countless times, only those times it was for the Royal Foundation or for the Prince’s Trust. I have never seen y’all concern trolls going on and on about how the Royal Foundation should not be talking to this or that organization etc. Where was all the outcry when William and/or Charles cozzied to same kinds of people to get donations? Oh wait, there was none because the above two are not married to a biracial American. 🙄🙄🙄
That was a straw man argument if I ever saw one. But none the less…
Not everything H&M do will be perfect, and pointing that out is not concern trolling. I don’t think a single person saying that H&M shouldn’t partner with GS would say the royal family should, so I’m not sure what double standard you are referring to. Next time Celebitchy does an article specifically about the BRFs involvement with Goldman Sachs I’ll be sure to comment there too.
But I have a feeling that somehow, the trolls on here would find a reason to be concerned……..
The trolls will find a reason to be concerned even if Meghan and Harry find cures to cancer and AIDS while puttering around with science in their garage. Harry and Meghan are never going to rope those people in so cut them loose in your mind. It’s losing support from people who have a positive or neutral view of Harry and Meghan who count. First you have a group who care about authenticity and do their best to follow their words with action that matter. Those people do know JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs records on social justice, the environment and women’s rights and don’t have a high opinion of them. Second you have people who don’t pay a lot of attention to the Sussexes, so they don’t have an axe to grind with them, but those people do remember 2008 and view JP Morgan Chase and Morgan Stanley as major contributions to the too big to fail fat cat crowd on Wall Street. Those people view the banks negatively and may even have lost a house or a job in the crash. On a side note, distrust of the big banks on Wall Street are one area where Bernie, Liz Warren and the Deplorables agree. So you are hitting a diverse cross section of the consuming public.
True, in Rolling Stone in 2010, Matt Taibbi brilliantly called GS “a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity”.
But celebrities on the speech circuit deal with those wanting to exchange some of their of spare cash for good PR. The Obamas do it. With all the negatives H&M face, they can’t be expected to singlehandedly clean up our global economic system as well.
And given the way things have gone with things since 2010 with the big banks, big media, big consulting outfits (hello McKinsey), etc., in bed with the military-industrial-pharma-government-tech-social control corporatocracy, I don’t know if GS should be singled out as especially venal anymore.
It is always going to a trade off, can you name a single corporate Goliath that is squeaky clean? The Sussexes need to go for the big money quickly to enable them to later concentrate on their true aims.
Not going to shade them for appealing to larger companies to help with their foundation or charities, the money has to come from somewhere.
That having been said, please please please have let them be smart about getting into bed with Goldman Sachs. Before I get dragged on here, I do think they are both very smart and driven people that wouldnt lay their cards where they might get dragged into some BS. BUT knowing these shady companies means that they will undoubtedly get dragged into some shady BS without their consent. Which, that isnt much different than with the BRF.
I bet GS is going to be a partner in the Travalyst initiative, doesn’t he have companies like Visa already lined up as part of it too?
Founding partners – VISA, Hilton, TripAdvisor, Booking(dot)Com, SkyScanner, Trip(dot)Com
It is not a small initiative.
@notasugarhere, and NONE of those companies are vestal virgins.
The media and the royal family tried to fill the huge gap made when Harry and Meghan left by throwing Normal Bill and Keen Katie at us EVERY SINGLE DAY. And the whole world YAWNED. The royal family has shady shit with their resident sex offender going on that they need to cover up. And the media needs the money because, just like Goldman Sachs, they’re corporations that profit on the worst in human nature. So they’re going to throw some chum into the water and hope the feeding frenzy is massive.
It’s interesting that the people who hate Harry and Meghan aren’t targeting the regular Sussex-hate sites because there are a lot of them out there. The existence of celebitchy seems to bother them. I don’t know what they expect to happen. Are they trying to drive people away? Well, I’m not going anywhere.
W&K stans have bullied Kate-critical sites for years. When CB and Kaiser came out swinging as pro-Meghan? It infuriated them even more. As long as we keep calling them out as the trolls they are? They’ll give up.
Do trolls not realize this kind of stuff motivates people even more to point out the bs? And tumblr sites created to complain about us are hilarious. It’s nice to know that we live rent free in the minds of many.
I hope that Travalyst is fleshed out more, especially since they can really make it into a interesting business model.
Considering Goldman’s role in robbing Americans of their homes and creating the financial crisis….this is disgusting. Harry should work with worth organizations…not thieves in suits
They had a lot of help creating that financial crisis. I hope it never happens again.
This is correct. Also I don’t understand Travalyst
No one does.
Well, gee, they have an entire website about it. You could choose to educate yourself.
I think Blu is referring to how Travelyst is supported by certain big businesses that aren’t know for putting their business practices where their mouths are which goes against the street cred Harry and Meghan need to maintain to have authenticity among people who truly care about issues like social justice and the environment.
I think Blu is yet another tumblr troll, saying anything negative about Harry and Meghan they can. Those trolls hate CB, because CB and Kaiser are pro-Sussex.
Can you name some big corporates that offend nobody?
Yikes. That’s my reaction for now. We’ll see how this pans out. It’s early days.
A lot of corporations are corrupt in some way or another. That’s how they become multi billion dollar corporations The royal family is pretty corrupt themselves. Since this is still vague, I will hold my judgement. Harry is not the first to talk to multi billion corporations and he certainly will not be the last.
He has lots of sponsors for Invictus and Travelyst, I’m sure most of not all are corrupt in some way.
Harry got a ton of hate yesterday from a VERY vague article that had little to no information.
It’s true that every large company has its blemishes. But Goldman is on another level entirely.
Yup. We are willing to hold celebrities accountable for making deals with shady companies, why would royalty be an exception?
Is any company truly worse than what the royal family has done over the years? They set up slavery in the Americas and committed genocide against indigenous people around the world. Please let me know when GS has hit that level of atrocity. Because everyone remaining in the royal family needs to be questioned about where they got their riches.
A lot of people lost homes, careers and retirement savings while big banks received government handouts funded from tax dollars. Those tax dollars were supplied by the same little people those big banks hurt. There are news reports about how Gen X as a generation took a bath in 2008 and haven’t fully recovered from the crash. They were the people in their thirties buying the houses in the early oughts at those insane prices. Then, you had Boomers facing ageism who lost their careers and needed to deplete the equity in their homes and drain their retirement savings to survive. This sh&t was no joke. It changed lives. For the worse.
He got a ton of hate from the twitter/tumblr crowd that has decided to flock to any story regarding M&H. These concern trolls are as transparent as they are disingenuous.
The people here who support Harry and Meghan need to treat the hater crowd like Charlie Brown did his teacher.
I get that they need money and I defended them in the JP Morgan thread but… are they sure this is the wisest course of action? I guess it’s kind of a catch-22 when you need to get a foundation off the ground and find sponsorship for your charities and events. I’m just glad I’m not them right now.
Funny how connecting HRC to Goldman Sachs was interpreted as a corrupt union, now it’s all a wonderful way for the rich to get richer…
Maybe it’s the same type of people (MAGAs) who tend to vilify HRC that vilify H&M – so the people who didn’t have a problem with HRC and GS also don’t have a problem with H connected to GS.
It is the same crowd. Dip a toe into the Meghan-hating tumblrs? They reblog pro-Drump content constantly.
If you look at the information on the meghan haters on twitter (the original Megxit trolls)*, they are all either maga’s or brexiteers straight down the line. No coincidences there. Blatant.
*I had the flu and time to kill.
Don’t forget the Occupy Wall Street crowd aren’t friends of the big banks or HRC either. Hatred of the big banks cuts across a wide swath of the electorate that aren’t accustomed to being political allies. Kind of like turning over private lands to corporations brings together rifle rack in the pickup truck outdoorsmen and fair trade, organic green tea swilling environmentalists to their local representatives town hall to protest the closing of public lands to the public so it can be turned over to private interests.
The same people who criticized HRC are probably losing their minds over Harry’s connection to Goldman Sachs. The fragrance of MAGA is very powerful.
Charles has had Goldman Sachs sponsor fundraising dinners for the Princes Trust& some GS staff are part of the Invest in Futures committee for the Princes Trust.
William also had banks like JP Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America as part of his task force to combat poaching.
Wonder if patronage’s talk is similar- about corporate sponsorship.
yeah the BRF have long consorted with unsavory characters and awful companies…so this isn’t shocking but a bit disappointing.
I guess time will tell what the truth behind these stories actually is
@Guestone, I posted before I read yr comments, thank you for this information. And where were all the loud outcries about the Royal Foundation or the Prince’s Trust cozzing up to the same organizations that Harry is being vilified for talking to? Look, Harry can do whatever the heck he wants with his life, for his little family and for his foundation. As long as it’s not illegal or criminal, I don’t care what people approve of or don’t. Someone even suggested here a few days ago that because Jimmy Carter is volunteering now, Harry should be doing the same, like are you for real? Was Jimmy Carter volunteering at 35 years? And then you read comments like Harry shouldn’t do this and shouldn’t do that, or stuff like, we don’t know what the Sussexes plans are, we need to know what they’re planning on doing from here forward, like the f@#k? Is prince Harry telling anyone how to live their lives? Are any royal family members telling anyone their plans or anything? Why should Harry and Meghan tell people anything? Get the f@ck outta here.
BabsORIG, at 35, Jimmy Carter was making millions in peanuts. He was a billionaire (a REAL one) BEFORE he entered the White House.
I guess if Harry and Meghan want to be just as hypocritical as the royal family they called toxic…I wish they would be better especially given how they’re so much richer than I’ll ever be without Goldman or JP Morgan.
Hey, but ‘My Dogs,’ what has M&H being ‘so much richer than you’ll ever be w/o Goldman or JP Morgan,’ got to do with a d**n thing??
Harry was born into wealth, and Meghan has worked hard her entire life for everything she has, all the while having learned from an early age how to care about others and give back.
FYI– there is abundance in this world which comes from God. The only reason there appears to be lack is because of greed. Everyone of us have the opportunity to be rich in mind, body, spirit and material wealth. But it’s not about how rich anyone is, it’s about what you do with your wealth, what you do with your lack, what you do with your life, what you do with your adversity, that counts.
As well, everybody needs to stop with hating on rich people because they are rich. Check out what they do with their riches. Better yet, look at your own life and take a good look in the mirror and stop worrying about what choices M&H are making and what neutral observers think of them. You can only speak for yourself, so why try to predict M&H’s future based on the constant OTT negative blather targeted against them?
It seems to me that this over-concern and over-scrutiny of the Sussexes is based in some kind of jealousy of the rare love they share, not to mention a lot of hidden and overt bias against Meghan’s background. To be honest, M&H have demonstrated and even told us in their engagement interview that they recognized something special in their attraction for each other and in their common interests and passions for helping people. They committed to nurturing what they found in each other, and they willingly made sacrifices and worked diligently on growing their relationship.
The example of M&H’s real relationship (not the tabloid speculated fiction) should tell everyone that even rare love is not a lark, it’s not easy. You have to work for it, appreciate it, nourish it carefully, give thanks and not take it for granted. How many people can successfully navigate those requirements, I wonder?
Furthermore,
Martin Luther King said, “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”
From their words, their actions, their behaviors and their down-to-earth personalities and choices in life, Meghan & Harry have shown me that they believe in doing their part to help bend that arc toward justice.
I pray for their well-being, but I don’t worry about their choices because they strike me as two bright, young people passionate about making a real difference in the world. At the same time, they deservedly take delight in the love they cherish and have grown together; in the child they have conceived; and in the many blessings they have been fortunate to be gifted with. I love seeing two young people who aren’t afraid to live their lives with courage, integrity, passion, ideals, hard work, and hope. M&H are not perfect human beings, and they know it. And they don’t rest on their laurels or take the easy way out.
The world we all live in is far from perfect either, and we know it. But from what I have discovered about the Sussexes, they apparently get up every day and do the best they can, while also living fully in each moment and being thankful, caring about others, and standing up for what they believe in. That’s the best way to live.
Goldman Sachs. Harry seems to have inherited PR instincts from his granny.
Hahaha, burn. 🤣
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Not really. Harry is trying to build a future for his family that’s not reliant on the tax payers. The only ones upset about this are the British media and the right wing conservatives who hate him no matter what. Queen Elizabeth is pushing andrew who has ties to a pedo. Not really the same.
I hope the the Middle Eastern royal despots aren’t the next to show up offering funding. That would complete the whole dirty hypocritical money chasing chip of the royal block picture.
Tell it to Charles, who is personal friends with the Saudi royals.
So many brand new names, so much concern trolling.
Cool how you know all commenters’ names and recognize new ones right away!
It IS pretty cool. It’s also easy to spot them because they don’t apply critical thinking to their comments and use sarcasm instead of facts or normal conversation. Tiresome and trite, and not very bright.
This is a bit rich when the OP is renowned on this site for their consistently sarcastic, dismissive comments on stories about certain other members of the BRF.
For the avoidance of doubt: long-time visitor, infrequent commenter, non-fan of Goldman Sachs. If any partnership deserves to be the subject of concern, it’s one involving them.
And obvious, no, GuestWho? They’ll keep trying, we’ll keep calling them out. They aren’t even original at this point.
@Ash – but she can always back her sarcasm up with facts.
The plain fact is this – there are a LOT of new troll commenters who are coming here daily with the SAME concerns (almost as if they had a gameplan) and are only commenting on stories involving H&M. They are clearly from the twitter/tumblr hate-verse. This site has consistently supported M&H and, for some reason, the trolls can’t stand that there is one site that doesn’t blindly bash them and have decided that they’re going to try to turn the tide. They comment about how “funny” it is on twitter to troll this site. It’s a real thing.
Having concerns about GS is fine, but to bash blindly without knowing any of the context is pointless – unless you’re a twitter troll with nothing else to fill your life (I don’t mean you – I mean them). They aren’t doing it because they give a crap about GS. They do it because they hate.
“apply critical thinking to their comments”! Are you joking, this is a gossip blog.
But while you are at it, apply some of that critical thinking to Goldman Sachs and stop putting H and M up on some golden pedestal.
@jules – yes, critical thinking. Not every gossip site is a site for morons.
@jules, why is liking and supporting Harry and Meghan ‘putting them up on a golden pedestal’? And even if people here did that, what difference does it make?
Nobody here is saying that Goldman Sachs is a great company. I think everyone here knows them for what they are. But Harry needs companies like that to accomplish what he wants to accomplish. Why all the hysteria? Donald Trump commits treason on a regular basis and there isn’t a fraction of the traffic on stories about him.
Dear Trolls: Name me one big company that doesn’t have skeletons in their closet. If Harry limited himself to businesses with squeaky clean histories, management practices and financials he’d be taking meetings with one-off corner grocers and donut holes. He’s a free agent now, and he means to continue with his philanthropic work along with his wife so there’s no point dragging him for focusing on that instead of becoming the next Jeff Bezos.
you are actually using the word “hysteria” here? do you understand the origins of this word, as a psychiatric disease specific to women when they display emotions? you can’t get more misogynistic than using the word “hysteria”, especially when people here have thoughtful opinions on how shady goldman sachs is. see, this is how crazy it gets when people bend over backwards to defend H and M.
Dear Jules. — the computer, phone, or whatever you are using to type a comment on this blog is owned by a corporation or umbrella corporation that harms in some way. There’s just no getting away from the fact that the world is NOT black and white or good or bad. Everything has a shade. It’s just not that simple. You compromise too at least half a dozen times a day.
@JA LowcountryLady – Jules doesn’t care about any of that. She’s here to troll.
People that read ALL the royal threads on here for YEARS absolutely recognize all the poster names and can spot the new trolls a mile away.
Besides the new names the concern trolling, dog whistling and Tumblr speak gives it away.
I visited this site for years, rarely comment. Maybe that’s the case with others too, not everything is a conspiracy and while there sure is trolls, people expressing concern doesn’t automatically make them a troll
@Lorena, it’s a TIMING thing.
Except that there are Megxit trolls on twitter actually talking about trolling this particular site because it has a generally positive view of Meghan. As kerwood said, it’s the timing – so people here commenting in a troll-like manner for the first time and ONLY on stories about H&M? I’m going to assume they’re trolls too.
this! ^^
They clearly got their marching orders this morning on the GS thing.
Concerned, but not trolling, and not new. GS is gross. If this is true, I’m disappointed. Plenty of other giant companies to work with that aren’t so blatantly amoral.
Like GuestWho wrote, easy to spot.
@MoreSalt, got any names of these altruistic companies? Because I’m sure Harry and Meghan would love to get them.
The level of naïveté and hypocrisy with all this concern trolling is just laughable. What companies would you like to see them work with? Facebook, Walmart, Amazon, Boeing, big pharma? Those aren’t so great to a lot of people either. Look in your own portfolio or see who issues your paychecks. This is so overblown. The issue isn’t really Goldmans or you’d be writing to them (GS) directly starting a social media campaigns to save the Sussexes from their billion dollar clutches. The issue is the Duke and Duchess of Sussex deciding without interference how they would build their new lives, having direct access to the levers of power and wealth. Can’t have nice people doing that or benefitting in any way. Also, the fact that they are doing a lot out of the reach of the press upsets others as well. How can you bash them if you can’t see them? These little press jibes are like swatting at buzzy little flies who really don’t know anything.
@Kerwood…yes, let us name the perfect squeaky clean companies that have millions to give away.
Yes. You know all right Not a Sugar? Its not a good idea GS are the Great White among the sharks and it really doesn’t let them look good. I thought they wanted to help charities close to their hearts. It appears charity begins with them at home and making as much money as possible for them than anyone else. That is what it appears and appearances are everything. People can have a difference of opinion and not be a troll.
We really don’t have a clue what they are doing. Right now everything is just rumours. We’re intelligent, lets wait for the facts instead of making assumptions and posting them as fact.
Nota, please consider for a second that people have a genuine problem with Goldman Sachs. Writing off everyone as simply a “hater” is uncalled for. That is the brand name many/most Americans associate with decimating our country in the last recession. And I’ve been posting here for over a decade. SMH
Having a problem with GS is fine, but please know there are trolls on twitter who blindly hate H&M (mostly M) and find it amusing, and tweet about trolling this site. They cannot stand that there is anywhere positive regarding H&M.
This, GuestWho. They are so blatant in 1) only showing up now 2) only commenting on Harry and Meghan stories.
So, @MoreSalt, if you’re so concerned about the nasty offenses of Goldman Sachs, what are you doing in your own life to combat this evil corporate giant?
It’s getting so old this over-concern about everything the Sussexes are doing, might be doing, supposedly are doing this very minute, or the DM made-up that they are doing next week. And let’s not forget they flew back and forth in Elton John’s private plane last summer and refused to pap-walk their newborn on the hospital steps for hoards of circus-like crowds for the benefit of the grasping, trashing media’s bottom line.
And lest we forget, Meghan had a nerve guest-editing September British Vogue while on maternity leave. Moreover, what utter gall she had glorying in her pregnancy and not losing weight fast enough after Archie’s birth!
To make matters very worse, the Queen let the Sussexes live at Frogmore Cottage which was already being renovated with Sovereign Grant funds as part of ongoing upgrades of Crown Estate properties. But let’s forget about that and continue braying erroneously that it was renovated on taxpayers’ dimes, despite the fact it wasn’t. And despite the fact M&H paid for their own furnishings and for any costs over budget. Who cares that W&K’s Apt 1A’s renovation costs exceeded those of Frogmore Cottage.
We really must rake the Sussexes endlessly back-and-forth over the coals for everything and nothing, but most of all, for having the audacity to live and breathe. Furthermore, who’s going to pay for their security costs???! Forget about the fact their security would be compromised if precise details were ever revealed (and details won’t be released, just as they never are for any high profile VIP requiring security protection).
Wow, Kensington Palace are really trying to destroy Harry and Meghan, sending their trolls to the ONE site, the ONLY site that supports them. All these brand new names commenting only on the Sussexes stories is VERY telling. Haven’t seen any of these new names commenting on any Cambridge story.
The hate from William and Kate is real people, they just can’t leave the Sussexes alone.
Karma is a bitch and it will come for them.
@Nota, Kewood, et al. I never seen so much faux concern from new posters in the past two days. The Dirty Mail is not enough for them, so they have to spread their bile on pro Meghan’s sites. I seen some of these on IG pages.
Harry and Meghan stories are the lifeblood for these trolls, they are banging their heads over the lack of current pics of Harry and Meghan, so that they can say that Harry looks thin and unhappy and Meghan looks like a triumphant witch. Their milk has been removed, they are not just hungry but starving, and so they come here because they are totally obsessed in a very negative and damaged way, l actually think that when you are so obsessed with hating someone and constantly want more of that person, despite insisting you are sick of them, it’s a major problem. Lots of deranged people out there in need of help.
The Meghan and Harry impact continues. Edward Enninful just posted. The September 2019 issue guest edited by Meghan was the ‘fastest-selling issue in the history of #BritishVogue (sold out in 10 days) and was the biggest-selling issue of the past decade.
Thanks for sharing. Not bad for an issue that some royal reporters claimed hadn’t gone down well. Seems like all that right wing media handwringing& faux outrage was great publicity.
Just like the smear campaign made Meghan’s profile bigger than necessary. When will these people learn.
People on here bitching about Goldman Sachs would happily cash their paycheck if offered as would royal “reporters” working for those rags.
Oh man, you guys, we are all personally still involved with entities that caused the financial crisis in ‘07-‘08. Goldman Sachs was just the buzziest name that everyone remembers. But so many companies had equal hands that still exist, that many of us do business with in some way or another very regularly. Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase we’re both heavily involved in some of the worst parts of the crisis. At this point, who give an F if he gives them a free speech in exchange for interest in one of his projects?
Yes! I lost a lot of 401k money in 07-08. There is a long list of companies involved in the crash. Plenty of credit card companies and banks. People are not being realistic when thinking that Henry shouldn’t do business with major companies that have a great amount of money to donate. Why not get the money these companies are offering to do some good in the world. I will never get my money back. But at least I trust Harry and Meghan to do good work with the money they may possibly receive from Goldman Sachs and J P Morgan.
Did anybody produce that list of most favoured ethical companies you’d like to see the Sussexes work with?
That’s the thing. Who do they want them to partner with and get speaking fees from? No one who apparently knows better has said anything. I honestly have no problem with them talking to Sachs, especially if it benefits their charities. These companies should be giving back more. They were are Stanford U. today. Is that bad too? Someone will probably complain that it’s not Northwestern.
Oh, Northwestern would be a great idea though. I hope she gets to work with them someday.
@GuestWho, maybe Meghan will give a commencement speech there. That would be very cool. I also hope she teams up with a media watchdog group or forum, and talk about being the center of a media storm the past few years, regarding press ethics, leaks, and having a whole national media used against you. I’d pay to go to that speech.
Exactly please tell us the names of these wholly perfect companies that have millions to donate.
Goldman Sachs’ big social responsibility platform is financially empowering women in developing economies. I could see some real overlap with that and what Harry and Meghan are interested in.
Criticism, concern and questions are not equatable with MAGA BS. And the thing about taking money from big banks or corporations is that they will only give if it suits their best interests, as well – period. And hence the concern that a company like GS, with such a nefarious past, might not be the best idea. BUT there doesn’t seem to be anything definite in the pipeline just yet, so maybe they are just testing and in discovery mode. No sense in attacking either way right now.
Harry and Meghan were at Stanford on Tuesday ‘to attend a brainstorming session over several hours with professors and academics’. Met by the University president.
Waiting to hear how Stanford is evil.
They are guilty of not complying to be “holed up”, they should be in hiding and without a penny according to tabloids and their followers, and if they talk to someone he must be a saint or a spotless company.
Ha! Thinking about iT even many saints were mundane people with lots of faults before dedicating themselves to doing good. not even some saints would be enough for Meghan and Harry haters.
They are clearly evil because they teach people to think critically. 😉
I hadn’t read that, btw. That’s excellent news.
Matter of fact Leland Stanford was comparable to Goldman Sachs for his age – the sports teams should be called “the Robber Barons”.
Fundamentally the GS outrage is warranted however it conveniently overlooks the double standard as other royals have dealt w GS.
Perhaps more importantly most average Americans have zero idea how very close to the brink the global economy actually was in 2008/9 and the bailouts of these big banks were necessary to prevent mass hysteria (among men and women) due to currency shortage. Goldman became shorthand for the excesses, the unfair bonuses and the general shitty greed that precipitated the crisis but is by no means the worst of the bunch.
As to whether or not a cut loose former member of the RF should court that big bank money deserves a really nuanced discussion- is he trying to reform an existing system or revolutionize by bribing shit down? (As lainey likes to say)
There are merits to both and IF HM choose to go with the former than getting that GS money will help their causes.
Black and white dualistic thinking is legit the disease of 2020
So Harry and Meghan are supposed to reform Goldman Sachs and reform the big banks , when even Congress couldn’t do that? They are a public,y traded company, so we can see every charity they donate to. Should we contact t all of them and tell them not to deal with Goldman Sachs. I just don’t get all this angst. I just think a lot of people are having a hard time with their decision, even though it was obvious it wasn’t going to be good for them personally long term. Like they said there was a lot going on behind the scenes, as well as the constant press tear down, focused just on Meghan.
How is partnering with Goldman Sachs any worse that getting money from granny? European royal houses have caused more destruction and human suffering than Goldman Sachs. Is it an ideal partnership? Not really. Neither was being supported by the money that was robbed from innocent people.
Well, of course. Because if there was ever an entity that needed help and representation, it’s Goldman Sachs. (Sarcasm)