Has Khloe Kardashian been quieter lately or have I just been paying less attention to her? I don’t know and I don’t care. I happened upon this video of Khloe and Kourtney Kardashian which has the “Poosh” logo on it. Poosh is Kourtney’s (sad) attempt at branding her own lifestyle website, like Goop only… not as A-list/exclusive. The point of the shocking low-quality video is that Kourt and Khloe are sitting around, talking about breastfeeding in a real way. Real as in, Khloe talks about how she found breastfeeding very difficult, and she ended up using formula very quickly after True was born.
Khloe also says that Kylie Jenner made the choice not to breastfeed Stormi and that Kylie and Khloe used the same brand of HiPP formula from Germany. I have kind of a stupid question, but is it weird that Khloe and Kylie both had issues with breastfeeding, or rather, decided not to BF? I’m truly not interested in the Mommy Wars aspect of this, fed is best for the baby and True and Stormi are both healthy babies, etc.
Also: after looking through Khloe’s Instagram, I’m convinced that she’s been pretty quiet in 2020 because she’s had more plastic surgery.
Photos courtesy of Instagram.
I nursed my oldest till he was 4. Through my second pregnancy and then tandem nursed both of them. I loved every minute. But it is tough, tiring, and sometimes painful. I don’t shame women who choose formula. Fed is best.
Me too Aang, and it was of the most precious times in my life! But I was not working , which made that a no brainer for me. Everyone has to do what’s best for them. I work with many young women who pump during the day so their babies can be bottle fed breast milk while they are parted.
Fed is best. If they wanted to use formula then I’m not going to judge them.
That woman has no nose.
She looks ridiculous. Her nose doesn’t match her face at all.
Her nose looks like it’s about to collapse.
She definitely had more surgery. And I think she’s back with Tristan and that’s why she’s quiet.
They are all morphing into one another. Their plastic surgeon clearly has a template that he is working off of.
You can even see which other celebs and YouTubers choose the same surgeon. He makes all of them look the same.
I wouldn’t look into more than some women have a hard time, some babies can’t latch, and honestly sometimes women do not want to be tied to more unstructured feeding schedule and constantly be the only source of food. My daughter had a tongue tie so she couldn’t latch properly so I pumped and we supplemented formula. Pumping wasn’t my thing, caused more stress and so stopped after two months. Regardless my husband loved being able to also feed our daughter and it really helped keep me sane. I imagine these Kardashians fall into one of those categories.
To each their own and no shame in that.
They may have wanted to retake or start medications that are not proven safe with breastfeeding. They may have nipples that are not conducive to breastfeeding. Maybe they had to get back to work and pumping didn’t work. Who knows? Yeah Fed is best, IMO, is not true. Breastmilk is bespoke for each baby and has been designed, through evolution, to nourish a baby. That said, no mom should feel guilty about formula AT ALL. I used it with my first because she had jaundice and lost so much weight. I’ve been able to exclusively breastfeed my second but the first 6 weeks were one of my hardest experiences. Just because something is natural does not mean it’s easy.
Being a mom is way harder than anyone can anticipate – a moms choice to use formula is her business and doesn’t reflect poorly on her at all.
I agree with everything you said. Breastfeeding can be painful and difficult.
I haven’t been following any of the Kardashians in years.
Her jawline/neck looks non-existent in that bottom picture. So much plastic surgery
it’s a huge huge time commitment. I BF and have enjoyed it about 90% of the time, but I acknowledge that my baby took to it really well naturally (I’m not sure why but I won’t question it, I just have heard anecdotally that it’s usually more difficult). But even then, the first 10 days were very challenging for me as it’s painful until you get the hang of it. If I had a can of formula around that first week, I’d have switched to formula too. Also, I previously had traditional breast augmentation and that didn’t affect my milk production or ability to nurse at all, but again this was my experience.
I dont know much about this. But silicone boobies ….. can u breast feed with those? And their bodies are their jobs. And breastfeeding sags boobies. And could they do fillers and botox while breastfeeding? Their livelihood is their outershell. All kinda sad really. But you know they have lots of money so they couls get wet nurses or the fanciest organic formula. And this way they could travel right away and leave baby with nannies.
I wonder if the silicone can taint the milk?
Nope, doesn’t work that way.
Having breast surgery of any kind can make breastfeeding more difficult or occasionally impossible. Kylie almost certainly had breast implants with her whole body transformation so that’s perhaps why she didn’t bother. Khloe idk.
Of course it can. You are putting a permanent foreign object filled with liquid in your body; you never know exactly what might happen. Many things can happen when you take that risk, every body reacts differently and nothing is 100% safe when you opt for unnatural body modification.
Getting implants can affect breastfeeding, primarily because the surgical incision can sever nerves and milk ducts. This is especially true if the incision is areolar. The preferred placement for implants now and within the last 10 years is under the muscle, and modern silicon implants are “gummy” or solid silicon in the middle, like a gummy bear. This is to prevent leakage. So it’s not like you have a bag of liquid silicon directly under the skin. Leakage of silicon isn’t a thing anymore that I am aware of. It’s more that the trauma of the surgery can damage the structure of the nipple and breast and impair milk flow and affect supply.
Even if it’s not actual silicone liquid in the implant, the material can still break down and “leak” into your system.
It’s not impossible, but it decreases the chances are being able to do it. The implants can damage the nervous tissue and mammary glands if your surgeon isn’t careful. I had a coworker who had it done several years ago, and she couldn’t breastfeed because after she had the implants put in, a nerve that was healing actually wrapped around the implant and made the nipple area ultra sensitive. Breastfeeding was literally too painful.
I feel like we heard her talk about difficulties breastfeeding in the past, but they co-op and lie so much who knows.
Both of my kids had dairy and soy intolerances as infants, luckily I was able to nurse them because we never found a formula they could digest. Breastfeeding is a lot of work and the difficulty is compounded if you work or travel a lot. I’m really not a fan of this family, but not breastfeeding shouldn’t be on their list of sins to judge them for.
That was my thought about all the plastic surgeries. Plus whatever dieting they are doing to stay thin.
Kortney seems the least enhanced of them.
I think Kendall is the least surgically enhanced among that koven, but I don’t really pay a lot of attention to them. When it comes to the K clan, I’m only here for the comments. They are always worth a good laugh or ten.
ftr, fed is best.
I actually bought the Poosh collab with Aquis after watching her Harper’s Bazaar Go to Bed with Me video. It’s silk on one side and a towel on the other, pretty cute. That video actually made me like her alot, despite the product shilling.
If either of them had a breast reduction / lift, they most likely wouldn’t be able to produce. At least, that’s what my doctor warned me when I had mine.
That being said, I had my daughter before my surgery, and I chose to formula feed from the start. I had a very unsupportive and verbally abusive partner, and I knew I wouldn’t be able to handle the stress or scrutiny if I “messed it up” or had a hard time feeding my daughter. I’m glad I chose that path in my situation or it could have been brutal.
Everyone’s reasons are different and I’m so glad you all recognize that fed is best.
There is plenty that I admit to judging this family for. Choosing formula will never be among them.
I don’t judge either of them… I had to use formula for both my kids. I had a breast reduction about 10 years before my kids came along and the surgeon had told me my chances of successfully BF were low. I tried for about 2 weeks with my first and she wasn’t getting fed that way so I decided to go with just formula. With my second I decided to skip the frustration and went straight to formula. As long as your baby is fed and thriving, I don’t care about WHY you are using formula because it’s honestly none of my fucking business.
I remember that Khloe was not only using formula ( that’s not a problem), but she was peddling that brand and some kind of machine to make bottles if something. These awful people don’t waste a chance to make money when they can.
It’s weird to me that women always feel like they have to give a specific reason they don’t or didn’t breastfeed. I just chose not to and didn’t. End of story. I think that’s a choice many women make but feel like they have to have a good explanation to placate other people.
@oliviajoy, great comment! I think we are all so used to being challenged or asked to explain our choices we just automatically start offering that information voluntarily.
You’ve made me stop and think about how frequently I ask people in these matters “do you mind me asking why?” I don’t do it to judge, it’s genuine curiosity and knowledge gathering (in case I ever have to make a similar decision) but on reflection it lends itself to the culture of women having to defend and explain their choices. I’m going to keep my lips zipped from now on and let people (especially women) be when it comes to their choices.
I have a couple of aquaintences in different circles choose formula simply because of their implant investments. I’m completely serious. Breastfeeding would have jeopardized bewb integrity.
I’m sure Kourtney and Kim breastfed their babies and they also have implants.
It is of course a very personal decision to breastfeed or not.
Having a lot of support to is key in succeeding. I couldn’t have done it without my sisters.
And it doesn’t necessarily “ruin” the breast. Mine is fine after breastfeeding 2 babies 10 month each.
It’s not weird at all. As someone who has breastfed two babies for about six months each, it is hard AF. And I had no particular issues or difficulties but it’s just exhausting and time consuming and stressful to be your baby’s only food source. I’m glad I breastfed when I did and then I was super excited to ween and switch to formula when I had had enough!
I don’t know or care why they chose to formula feed, but I thought that the HiPP formula was illegal here?
It’s not technically illegal, it’s just not FDA approved. Since Hipp and Holle (another popular formula from Europe) come from Germany or something like that, a lot of people feel comfortable using it as they deem that country’s regulations to be on par or better than the FDA’s. I think Holle, perhaps, is also goat-milk based, so when kids end up with random allergies, some of the European ones are better for them ingredient-wise.
I know some people see “not FDA approved” to be practically equal to “illegal” or “dangerous,” but with something like formula that is produced and marketed as baby formula in countries like Germany and Switzerland or wherever they come from, people are willing to go there for their babies. Getting FDA approval is time-consuming and expensive, and the US is obviously not the market for a foreign manufacturer’s formula.
It’s illegal to import it, I think?
I know that the AAP recommends not using European brands of formula unless one is actually living in Europe and able to buy it on store shelves. Partly because if you’re outside the official supply chain you won’t get notices of recalls, and also because there’s no legal, regulated supply in the US it would be fairly easy for an unscrupulous person/entity to sell adulterated product.
I think the labeling requirements in the US and Europe are different and the way ingredients are listed on European formula lead people to believe that the components are better or “cleaner” but they’re really very similar.
HiPP was the only formula that I found to work for my son who was colicky (or whatever…he barfed up everything). I never had an issue importing it. I used Buy Organic Formula.
poosh sounds like a fart.
When I had my first, i was part of a large group of friends who all had babies at the same time. There were a lot of different choices in the group on feeding the babies, and it was never an issue. The only time I’ve ever seen people get upset was online on the baby board I was a member of.
Does anyone NOT have a problem breastfeeding? I found the first few days to be so unbelievably painful, couldn’t get the baby to latch correctly on my own. It took a few visits with my lactation specialist to get it down. Even then my breasts were so large it made breastfeeding in those early weeks impossible. I ended up expressing into a Medela vial and feeding her through a tiny tube wrapped around my finger. It was ridiculous, but then everything worked itself out and I ended up weaning her at 2 1/2.
Painful AND scary looking lol. My chest was black and blue. It looked like I was in a car crash. We thought my veins had exploded, and I was hemorrhaging lol.
Very common, I imagine, at least what I pick up anecdotally from friends who’ve had kids. Makes you wonder how we survived this long as a species with how fussy we are as infants, but then again, before the age of formula, wet nursing was a widespread and accepted practice. I imagine plenty of women nursed each others’ children in hard times to get through rougher periods.
I can’t imagine looking in a mirror and seeing a completely different face.
Fed is best. For my kid, formula was the only answer to our problems with latching and wild reflux.
OMG, I came here to defend my use of formula for both of my kids because I majorly under produced (I didn’t realize it until a week after the birth of my first, and my newborn daughter spent the following week in the hospital due to dehydration and pretty bad jaundice. I kept trying to tell my doctor and my family that something was wrong, but no one listened. It was so so scary.) But I guess I forgot how incredibly supportive and kind this community is. That you for saying “fed is best”, Keiser and the commentors. I’m now triggered and crying at work, but it feels good to have a reminder that there are so many people out there who are supportive, kind, and understanding. Thank you!
There are documented health benefits to breast fed over formula, but frankly, it’s very time consuming, tiring, and hard on the mother, so I’m not surprised when women bypass it, especially those who work or have busier schedules or just plain had bad luck with milk production. The kid will likely turn out fine either way, so it’s pointless to pass judgement over women for such a personal decision whose benefits become less significant in industrialized medicine.
It’s not like women in their position would’ve nursed their own children anyway in centuries past. That’s what wet nurses were for. We’ve just traded natural for synthetic surrogates.
Actually, the most up to date research really calls into question that there are any health benefits. Especially studies controlled for the family unit. Emily Oster’s work on this is particularly insightful. Also, there are many situations where actually the more healthy option is to just not do it. It’s not just about being time consuming and tiring – although, those things alone are valid reasons to not want to do it.
I used the German brand Holle Lebenswert which is very similar to HiPP because my premie couldn’t latch. Not cheap but the best decision I could make for her at the time. Far superior than most American brand formula. My daughter fattened up with that beautiful baby chub fairly quickly after being born at only 3lbs.