One piece of good news (perhaps): Congressional Democrats and the White House have made a deal for a $2 trillion stimulus/relief package which will see tax-paying households receive $1200 checks, plus small-business aid and of course a huge bailout for corporations. It would also give money to state governments and hospitals directly. Moscow Mitch McConnell had spent several days squealing about how evil Dems were doing this or that, when all he did was try to push through an enormous taxpayer-funded slush fund for all of his billionaire donors. Anyway, this probably won’t do much but at least individuals will get a tiny amount of financial relief.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump and the Republicans are itchy to “restart” the economy and end the isolation and quarantines.
President Donald Trump says he wants the nation “opened up and just raring to go by Easter” — a date just more than two weeks away that few health experts believe will be sufficient in containing the spread of coronavirus.
Speaking during a Fox News town hall on Tuesday, Trump reiterated he was eager to see the nation return to normal soon, even as doctors warn the nation will see a massive spike in cases if Americans return to crowded workplaces or events.
“I give it two weeks,” Trump said earlier in the town hall, suggesting he was ready to phase out his 15-day self-isolating guidelines when they expire. “I guess by Monday or Tuesday, it’s about two weeks. We will assess at that time and give it more time if we need a little more time. We have to open this country up.”
This goes along with the new conservative talking point, which is that Americans need to sacrifice their lives for the good of the economy, meaning that yes, millions of people will die but hey, Ruby Tuesday franchises should be open for business soon.
Meanwhile, did you really think that Trump would miss an opportunity to be petty AF during a global pandemic? Of course not. Democratic governors who question or challenge the Trump administration are losing federal support during the crisis. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has been a beacon of compassion, empathy and political stability during New York state’s crisis. Trump has greeted this Big Cuomo Energy by calling Cuomo “nasty” and blaming him for not having enough ventilators during the 1918 Spanish flu (I sh-t you not). Trump is a thin-skinned narcissist who hates when anyone overshadows him or questions him or expects anything from him. What did his MAGAts expect?
Photos courtesy of Getty, Avalon Red.
I am not an evil person but if these Trump supporters want to commit suicide by going out and risk their lives for Trump, then let them. America will be better without them.
We should just focus on getting help to those who want it.
Although I can say confidently that America will be on most countries blacklist if Trump reopens the business and travel within next few weeks. The rest of the world is taking this seriously.
The rest of the world needs to lock down their borders against America totally. Show Resident LardAss he’s not World Dictator.
Canada has closed the border thank God.
The number if confirmed cases in the states will explode soon.
On Twitter: “What I hear in Trump’s speeches: “We have really big companies, some small ones, some right size, some small size, oh look a butterfly, what color is that wall, I like fried chicken, I am taller that Dr. Fauci, I am doing a fabulous job, never been done before, I want cake”.
This IS *so* The Moldy Tangerine Twitler!
Batshit, greedy crazies are leading our country right now. Along with religious fanatics and republiTHUGS who believe “the elderly will *willingly* die FOR THE ECONOMY”.
ETA: It’s been reported that SIX of Dump’s seven biggest money-making properties have been shut down with this shelter-in-place quarantine/lockdown. THIS is why he’s SO itchy to open up!!
My American relatives caught the last flight out to Australia (dual citizenship) to see out the pandemic there.
Nowhere is safe from the virus, but what’s happening in the US is crazy.
They judged it better to uproot their lives for as long as it takes, rather than endure whatever that insane child emperor does next.
That puts health workers into a terrible position. Constant exposure to the virus means that health workers are more likely to catch it, more likely to get a harsh version of it, and more likely to die.
Yeah, it’s unfortunately not as simple as only those being reckless getting infected. People yesterday were talking about how Liberty University is opening and I don’t see how the spread that will surely happen on campus can be contained to just the campus. People do leave.
We healthcare workers don’t have the proper PPE to deal with the pandemic. Our gloves are being rationed, we have to re-use masks. It’s ridiculous. I’m going into work every day risking my health and the health of my loved ones. And he thinks it’s a good idea to put the entire country in this position for the economy. He makes me sick.
I am hoping the governor orders Liberty University closed, but he has been infuriatingly slow to act.
Yes, the whole point of these measures is largely to protect the healthcare system from being overwhelmed as has tragically been the case in Italy and other countries heading there. UK is passing law that people can leave their jobs to go and volunteer with the NHS and thousands have already signed up.
When asked about governors asking the federal government for help, Trump answered, “You know, it’s a two way street, they have to treat us well also.”
Quid pro quo. Treating the governors of the USA the same way he treated the President of Ukraine, just as Adam Schiff warned us he would. Kiss the ring, or kiss your grandma & grandpa goodbye (and your parents, and your kids- it’s going to take us all if we can’t get control of it).
Yes. Unreal. The stain of ignorance, corruption and amorality that Trump has left on this country will never be erased, I think.
It will take a hundred years to fix everything he messed up. And me messed up everything. The man who Always Fails.
Of course he wants to open everything, his life is run on loans and debt, a teetering house of cards.
Put your lives at risk to save my stock market said the carnival barker… no thank you said anyone who isn’t MAGA nitized
He wants the poor and old to die! The Coronavirus cases will absolutely shoot up by the end of the week.
And Mitch McConnell – you realize the places hardest hit by the virus are large metro areas (which are usually dominantly blue)? I have no doubts the republicans are seriously considering this in their strategies.
One way of lowering/cutting those on Soc,. Sec. and Medicare. One of the ultimate “brass rings” of republiTHUGS.
That’s it. He’s only concerned about his and his billionaire buddies’ money. That’s why he wants to go back to business as usual. And his disgusting supports are in line. One even said the elderly should be willing to die so their grandchildren’s economy wouldn’t fall. (He said he would be willing to die, which means he’s also risking everyone else and emergency workers for MONEY)
He’s so completely repulsive, a pile of orange diarrhea.
Texas is totally fine with the elderly and sick dying, but God forbid women have abortion access right now.
As many of you here I’m sure know, there will be an explosion of serious COVID-19 cases within the next 1-3 weeks due to the failure of many Americans to self quarantine due to the weak response by the White House. Even places that quarantined will have more cases, but fewer because we stayed home to “flatten the curve”. Shortly after he lifts the Federal recommendation and encourages everyone to go back to work (i.e., spend money at places like his hotels), the ICUs and rural hospitals will begin to see serious cases throughout the country, and Trump supporters will be out of luck. Many won’t survive because of the demographic they are in.
I feel for the frontline healthcare workers who will have to contend with the upcoming disaster. I stay home for them. I am grateful that my husband and I can work from home on our computers. I am grateful that my child is home and that she isn’t trapped in Europe alone in some hotel room like many of her friends who weren’t able to get plane tickets that got them home from school by Trump’s deadline on that Friday over a week ago. I am sad for the Spanish and Mexican citizens who will die because of selfish, incompetent leadership in terms of science and medicine akin to what we have here in the United States because of the Trump White House.
A lot of people are saying at least States can close-down over Trump’s call, but not the airports. And NYC area has 4 commercial airlines I can think of (2 international). This won’t just be a US problem if he opens the country back up it’ll go everywhere again, and NY/NJ will continue to be pummeled at a higher rate. I’m sure California will feel the same effects too.
The problem is if businesses open up before the pandemic is over.
People will refuse to work then get fired and replaced.
Plus it’s not just New York and California. They are just testing more so their numbers are accurate.
Places like Washington state, Florida, and Georgia arent testing enough.
And Louisiana. It’s just behind NY and CA, based on population.
Except that other countries will still have their airports closed. So where would they fly to?
Trump will start bullying and throwing sanctions at countries that won’t accept US aircraft. I expect him to start with Canada, then he will threaten Britain.
Exactly. And companies are keeping planes and crew on the ground and most people don’t feel like going on vacations so planes wouldn’t even be half full… So basically, even if he wants to re-open the borders, no one will let the US in and no plane will fly
Yes, and countries close to US I’m sure will feel the impact or pressure to reopen also. I live in the Caribbean and we just recently closed our borders to incoming cruise ships which carry many American visitors. The highest number of reported cases in Caribbean so far I believe is 17, US Virgin Islands, just a boat trip from where I live in British Virgin Islands.
This may be my quarantine delusion speaking, but I’m hoping that Trump’s “confidence” may be due to him having been briefed on the early success of some of those therapies. Please God…
It’s delusion, sorry.
His “confidence” goes against what medical experts say. Remember when he said we had it under control and it would be eliminated quickly?
Rather, he’s been pushing unproven remedies and Lupus patients are having a hard time finding their necessary medications because of his arrogance.
I hope the effects of his bad advice doesn’t affect supply in Canada. I take Plaquenil for Lupus and my pharmacist is limiting renewal quantities.
You’re delusional about this and Trump, no shade intended. He’s not listening to medical experts, he’s listening to the greedy grifters on Fox News. Which, ironically is having it’s own problems with the virus, I read. I guess several there have tested positive and people are afraid to come to work. So karma……
Then you haven’t been paying attention to a damn thing associated with Trump over the last several years.
How can he be briefed on anythng, if he never bothers to listen to briefings?
Trump will NOT use the War Production Act to have companies make ventilators and other life-saving medical supplies. He said the federal government is not a “shipping clerk.” This is insane and one reason the federal government exists. He is criminally incompetent and corrupt and people WILL die because of this vacuum of national leadership. GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE. Damn, he is a disgrace.
I know people who have tried to order supplies (specifically and terrifyingly, body bags), only to be on back order because the feds have them all. We are low on supplies because the Orange Lard is hoarding and doesn’t have plans on replacing needed items.
I think he & his big business buddies don’t want to evoke this act because to them, it’s ‘nationalization’ of industry, and they don’t want that.
Can someone with more knowledge explain this part to me – “relief package which will see tax-paying households receive $1200 checks”. What about those who make so little that they pay few or no taxes? Except, of course, sales taxes on everything they purchase, including in Alabama, food. I’m not one of those people, but I wonder about them. And, of course, there seems to be no help for the homeless, either. Anyone can elucidate?
If I recall, part of the Democrat version was formatted to help those who don’t file taxes/are homeless/etc. There was supposed to be a number you can call if you don’t automatically get the stimulus? Probably after a certain period of time.
I haven’t heard much more about that part though. The big hoo-rah was furloughed workers getting their whole paychecks (yay that’s me!) for 4 months.
This is from the CNN write up:
“There are provisions in the bill to include those who don’t earn enough to file returns, but some people may be missed, said Howard Gleckman, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center. Under the legislation being negotiated, lower- and middle-income Americans would receive just over two-thirds of the benefits, Gleckman said. An earlier version of the bill would have given lower-income households less or no assistance.“
I know the Republicans’ originally plan left out people who earn so little that they don’t have to file income tax returns, so I really hope this is an improvement.
So individuals who’s AGI (adjusted gross income) is less than 75k will get a $1200 check. The scale then slides down and is capped at people who make an AGI of 99k. Personally, I feel like they should have capped it higher bc the middle ranges from 40k to like 150k (I think that’s where I read last time). But whatever. For couples, if your combine AGI is under $150 k you get the $2400.
If you don’t pay taxes, then there is no way to track your AGI, and you’d miss out on the payments.
While this is all good and will, the real focus of the bill is to help booster the corporations themselves. Trump would $17million of this bill for his properties. There is a five person panel that Will oversee the bailout application process.
If your unemployed go file a 1040 form now, I just went on irs.gov and filed for my brother in law.
I read a thing where they were saying how they would give the money and they said to file now if you were unemployed.
I would be willing to bet my house if this in the red states and not currently in CA/NY he would be falling all over himself to keep things closed.
Don’t worry MAGAs-it’s coming for you to because it doesn’t care about politics.
I am never been more appalled at the sheer selfishness of the right. I keep thinking they can’t stoop any lower.
Louisiana, Florida are exploding. MS and AL are in the mid 200s, but it’ll get worse as our low iq guvs have no plans for statewide social distancing.
Birmingham, which has nearly 100 cases, has gone on lockdown without waiting for Governor Biddy to do anything substantive.
But he won’t do anything special for the red states. He’s incapable of caring whether anyone lives or dies.
Agreed. He could care less if it is blue or red states loosing people he could care less about anything involving people.
And those rural, red- state areas? Magas are fvcked.
In some areas, the nearest hospital is one or two hours away because lack of funding has closed small hospitals across the US.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/population-health/why-rural-hospitals-are-closing.html
My current tinfoil hat theory: the reluctance to release equipment in the national stockpile might be because they know the red states are going to need serious intervention and don’t have the resources to buy extra equipment on their own like CA and NY do. If the federal government goes all out in the states where his core supporters live, they will give him all the credit for their salvation.
Exactly Ali. I live in FL, I saw cases go from 665 to 1400 within a few days. They started testing more people so more cases got reported. I’m really angry at De Santis, he’s risking our lives so he can stay on Trump’s good side.
De Santiago is the worst I can’t believe how unconcerned he is about a state full of elderly citizens.
Not to be mean but those people voted for that idiot. You reap what you sow. They could have had the other guy but racism…
My cousin is a surgical nurse in Seattle. She spent the past week inventorying PPE and assembling and distributing kits for home sewers to make masks. Yesterday, she took to the streets in a tent to administer tests to the city’s homeless. She’ll be back out there today. She has done more to fight this and is worth more than the entire Trump clan combined. How dare he put her and others like her at more risk?
As I type this, I can hear someone in another house coughing uncontrollably. I fear the virus has come to the group home for mentally disabled adults nearby.
The Archdiocese of Boston is closed until the Cardinal, not Trump, reopens it. I will not be part of Trump’s “beautiful” deadly vision of people going to church on Easter Sunday.
Bless your cousin, who unfortunately Trump gives zero Fs about, as well as all the other front line workers.
Fingers crossed that the coughing you hear isn’t the virus. My uncle was just hospitalized with pneumonia and tested negative. Still, uncontrollable coughing is never good.
And I hope all the churches keep their doors closed for a good long time no matter what timeline Trump recklessly latches onto. There’s absolutely reason for large groups need to gather like that anytime soon, especially in this digitally connected age.
So much love and respect to your cousin. All I’m doing is working from home and avoiding people. Germany is pretty much shut down so it’s not even hard to do.
I keep thinking of all the people in countries with inept or cruel governments and while I have had serious issues with my government, at least they care and try their best. And work together. I can’t find the words to describe my feelings towards 45. His evil is beyond description.
Your cousin sounds amazing.
My neighbor’s adult daughter drove down to Oregon from Seattle to visit her parents. I think they should have told her to stay put.
God bless your cousin. She sounds amazing. Much thanks to all of the healthcare workers on the front line with this.
bless your cousin and all like minded people.
So much gratitude to your cousin. I am praying for all of the front line personnel.
I can see the rooftop of our (small Louisiana town) local hospital from my apt building. I am over 50, with health issues and an inhaler. You’d think I would be qualified to go get tested, but NOPE. I am so afraid here. Cases of newly infected are doubling every 3 days and our death toll is climbing, too. Mardis Gras screwed us. There should have been a plan in place.
Solitaryangel, I’m also in LA (New Orleans). I know people who tested positive who said they were feeling sick as early as March 1. My partner and I had a very nasty dry cough that lasted about two weeks that we both got over Mardi Gras. I’m retrospect, I’m curious as to what that was.
We have the third highest rate per-capita and I feel like the national media is completely ignoring us.
I’m appalled that you can’t get tested and wishing you happiness, health, and safety. I am very worried for the livelihood of everyone who lives in this service economy if this continues for months on end.
Thanks, Cait. I’m so glad that you and your partner are better!
1.4 million people came to NOLA for Mardis Gras and left with much more than souvenirs and beads. They all left with COVID19 and took it back home. Rachel Maddow said that.
I actually called my doctor’s office this morning and they’re refusing to make appointments until June. So they’re all going to work sitting around having a great time with no patients to see. I asked what the protocol was so I could get tested. They said they ask 4-5 questions about symptoms, and then if it “sounds” like I may have it, they put a medical person on the phone who will continue to ask me questions. Then they will tell me to go to the ER. I am so appalled at the lack of concern from medical people in this town. I’m in West Monroe which is in NE LA. We’re doomed if we don’t crack down on this GLOBAL problem. People here don’t care. They just. Don’t. Care. 😢
Hi SolitaryAngel,
I am sorry for your experience with your GP practice.
But as a doctor myself, let me correct you – we are NOT “sitting around having a great time with no patients to see”. It is very very wrong of you to assume and say that. And I say this, while a ‘lucky’ part of the population gets to isolate at home, my colleagues and I go to work everyday, to our clinics and our hospitals / emergency departments. We continue to see any many patients face to face as we can, and do telephone or video reviews for others. We have been exposing ourselves DAILY to god knows what because it is the oath that we took, and because WE CARE about the people who come to us seeking help. We don’t have PPEs, we walk right in to help and we walk out, disinfect thoroughly and go onto the next patient. We have no time to care for ourselves, that is a luxury. Our own management / state health is scrambling to do right by us and by our patients, and the entire time while that is in progress, my colleagues and I are at the frontline, endangering ourselves again and again to care for those who come for help.
SO I WILL NOT SIT BY AND ALLOW YOU TO INACCURATELY ACCUSE DOCTORS AND SAY THAT WE ARE JUST ING AROUND HAVING A GRAND OLD TIME. NO. WE ARE NOT. AND NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING UTTERLY HURTFUL, DO THINK AND DO UNDERSTAND THAT DOCTORS ARE HUMANS TOO. WE HAVE LOVED ONES WHO ARE VULNERABLE AND NEED US HOME, HOWEVER WE FORSAKE THEM FOR OUR PATIENTS. IT WLL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED IF YOU AND ANYONE ELSE WHO THINKS THEIR DOCTOR IS HAVING A BLOODY GRAND TIME COULD THINK, FOR ONE SECOND, ABOUT THE DOCTOR.
If he could find a way to use the War Production Act to fund his re-election campaign, he’d do it. Since he can’t personally benefit from companies making life-saving ventilators for hospitals in 50 states for others, he’s not interested. Not interested in saving thousands or hundreds of thousands of lives in America. Remember, malignant narcissists have no empathy for others and we could all drop like flies and not only would he not care, he’d take no personal responsibility. Harry Truman’s “The buck stops here” means to Trump that national money will enrich him and his friends. And no trickle down!
#thecrueltyisthepoint
Wow Thareny. I’m sorry that my post riled you up so much that you felt you needed to yell at me about it. I will clarify… I meant that the office staff were sitting around, glad to be doing nothing but answering the phone.
Let me say this too: When I was on the phone with the receptionist, I heard much laughter and noise in the background. It sounded like a birthday party. I have *never* heard that before in the years since I have been going there.
I admire the hell out of all you doctors & medical people who are working so hard, risking so much while also being forced to deal
with inadequate PPEs. And I was an EMT until my health declined to the point that I could no longer function as something I felt was my life’s calling.
Having said that, I say this–until you have worked here in my town, and have seen how lacksidaisically and rudely these receptionists (I’ve had to go to many different doctor’s offices here) treat the patients, you have no right to yell at me about anything I say. I’m so sorry I didn’t make myself clearer before when I wrote the first comment.
And I am sorry you felt hurt by my words.
Hi SolitaryAngel,
Thank you for your reply.
And, from my side, I am so sorry for the all-caps lock reply. I’m tired, overworked and starting to get stretched thin. Regardless of how hard or fast you work, the tidal wave keeps knocking you down. And we have not even been hit hard yet, we are waiting for the other shoe to drop, and it’s on the way. I truly do care for my patients and am happy to put them before me, and on so many occasions, have put my life / priorities on pause while I sort out that one patient, and the next and the next and the next…you get the picture. And that’s not even factoring the abuse that comes from some patients and their families. Coming to Celebitchy is my R&R, where I recharge my battery before returning to ‘battle’, and when I saw your comment, I thought you meant that doctors just sit around and do nothing, and I just lost it. I should not have. But after a while, you just get tired of being abused while you’re trying to help people you know. I’m sorry.
Sometimes, in clinics / hospitals, we take whatever little laughter we can, that’s the only way to keep going.
I am truly sorry about your experience. I can understand the stress that arises when you or your loved one is sick, especially in this current climate. Being a doctor, you become desensitised (regardless of how empathetic you try to be / remain), and you only truly realise the fear the patient or their families feel when you yourself are in their shoes. I remember when I mom had something minor, I was climbing the walls in my head.
If it makes you feel any better, when a doctor goes to a GP practice or hospital, we still endure the same waiting hours and treatment by staff that the non-medical population endures.
Thank you for your reply, it really did soothe a tired soul.
Take care of yourself.
Stay strong Gov Cuomo, and I’m pleased to see how much media attention you are receiving. Notice Dr. Fauci, another of Drumpf’s plants, was in the background yesterday when Dumpty spoke. In CA our National Guard is aiding food banks, and if we need to be outdoors, easy for us our hiking trails are open.
Dr. Fauci is not a Trump plant. He started his position during the AIDS epidemic. He has worked under 6 administrations and is a well regarded expert in his field. I fear this may be the last administration he works under because he contradicts Trump often. That is a slight Trump probably won’t forget when this is over
Dr. Fauci is 79 years old. He deserves his retirement!
Dr. fauci is actually one of the sane, good guys. Just wait, Dump will fire him for dissenting in 3…2…1…
Like someone asked on Twitter: how does this eagerness to restart the economy while risking people’s lives tally with the ‘pro-life’ stance of the republicans? Isn’t life valuable to them anymore?
The fact that their only concern is with an unborn fetus while giving the finger to actual living children should say all you need to know about their “pro-life” values.
Preach!
because they’re pro-BIRTH, not pro-LIFE. if they were truly pro life, they’d want to fund neo-natal care and other needs (diapers, formula, etc) for women who can’t afford those things. but no, those things and things like SNAP and Meals on Wheels?…F*ck ’em. If you’re a fetus, they’ll kill an abortion doctor to save you, but hey ho! once you’re out of the womb, you’re on your own, sucka.
I’ve experienced two “pro-lifers” ranting on “How dare you commend Governor Cuomo for caring about the lives of New Yorkers?” because Cuomo is pro-choice. It’s tunnel vision. They do not give a flying f— about anything else but fetuses/controlling women. It’s not truly pro-life if you don’t care about ALL life. I wonder how they’ll feel once the bodies of their loved ones start piling up?
They want you to give up your grandparents for lent..for the Dow Jones. Feckless losers
Trump’s Twitter feed this morning is frightening. The media needs to start asking Pence why he hasn’t invoked the 25th Amendment at every press conference
I was watching CNN last night and Governor Pritzker of Illinois was on and Don Lemon asked him about that . Governors response is that shutting the state down was a Governors order and lifting the stay in place is the same. He is listening to the Scientists.
Same here in New Jersey. Murphy was asked about it repeatedly, and he finally said the same thing, it’s the state’s call.
I wish everyone would just start to ignore Trump, he doesn’t know anything, is promoting dangerous ideas, and needs to be ignored. Listen to the experts, stay home.
Yes. Thank Gd New Jersey and Murphy aren’t going to listen to Trump. I’m a teacher and during video meeting today, sounds as though we could be teaching from home a long time. NE government isn’t falling for Trump’s lies and bs.
And Pritzker is a billionaire from the business world who is an heir for the Hyatt hotels. What a world of difference between him and that other guy.
It’s serious. Waffle House is closing 365 restaurants for the duration. They NEVER close. FEMA uses Waffle House as a disaster rating during hurricanes.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/us/waffle-house-hurricane-dorian-trnd/index.html
My family was talking about that this morning. A cousin in the South posted on Facebook that the Waffle House near him had just closed and that had never happened so End Times must be upon us while a whole group pf us in the North responded that we had never been to a Waffle House.
We Floridians look to Disney/Universal to see how scre#ed we are on the crisis meter. Those parks are open during hurricanes. Universal Studios extended their lockdown to April 19th.
But good thing? Universal is paying their employees until then. So, when this is over and people come to FL, go to Universal. Give a boost to the companies who are taking care of their workers.
Now I’ve got to go and call Governor DeSantis’ office again and remind them he’s a rat turd for not closing the beaches. Stay safe, CBers.
The BEST hashbrowns.
It’s ok, LightPurple. You really haven’t missed anything by not ever having visited a Waffle House. The closings are concerning though.
THE WAFFLE HOUSE?!? One of the strongest indicators out there…
Yikes if Waffle House closes…its bad. Bless them for closing
I think by Easter, this will be so bad that the idea of “opening back up” will be taken off the table.
Unfortunately I think you are right about that.
In all of this you know who looks the worst? Senate. All this shit and peoples lost lofe are on each of the senators who voted to NOT impeach. This should haunt them and hit them badly at some point. Karma is a bitch.
I can’t believe he is so openly and publicly denies help and doesn’t care about his country and its citizens and no one can do anything about it?
I am so angry at this fckwit. So. Angry.
I live in NY…Cuomo has never been my favorite person but dang, I am impressed with him during this crisis. It shows you how much of a leader he really is! I have posted how impressed I was on my FB page and true to form, Trump Cult has told me how he thinks nothing for my area, only NYC and how much more Trump is doing! Well, I agree with them on that. Trump is doing much more in the lying, bragging, berating department. They will never see it, never admit if they do see it and just don’t care. Even the stocks falling are all the dems fault (not saying it’s Trump’s fault, but it certainly isn’t the dems either).
Same, Lucy. I am beyond thankful that I live in the state where Cuomo is governor. What an argument from your Trumper acquaintances. If he only cared about NYC then he’d only have shut down NYC. The virus is growing by the numbers in my county which is nowhere near NYC. And even in my county I am seeing people praising Trump for his optimism???? Thank God for Cuomo.
The most depressing thing about this is last night on MSN I saw that his approval has actually RISEN and 60% of Americans approve of how he’s handling this crisis. Mind boggling. No wonder this nation is such a fu*cking joke to the rest of the world.
Worse, Independents were a close second to Republicans in the level of support. So much for being the group fighting for balance and representation – I guess as long as someone tells you that you can go back to your hot yoga classes in two weeks, they’re doing a good job. And obviously it won’t be THEM getting sick, right?
This is going to be the worst case of I told you so since this fascist was elected.
If he gets back in office in November, this country gets what it deserves. I no longer make excuses for our stupidity and cruelty.
+1
The stupidity and cruelty is not yours to own, Veronica. This belongs on your leader and trust me, the world knows exactly who he is.
I am hoping that this is a temporary uptick because I feel like Trump is the worst possible person to be handling this MY GOD
Agree. Don’t understand how so many people approve of him. Very depressing. Obviously, these are people with the same personality traits as Trump.
Since the outbreak here in the US, I’ve read numerous pieces about how this is “the end” of his presidency. I sadly don’t believe that. He’s had so many “end of presidency” moments in the last four years and yet here we are.
Just yesterday, a colleague told me via instant message “Trump isn’t that bad.”
The tin hat wearing me thinks he’d love for this to explode even more so it lasts longer and he can cancel the upcoming election.
IIRC someone addressed this in a previous thread (probably weeks ago) that if there is no election Trump and Pence are out as of inauguration day in Jan and Speaker of the House is next in line. No way will he allow Pelosi to take over. Someone, who probably knows more than me, is welcome to correct me as I don’t want to spread any false info.
If he cancels the election then his term automatically ends on January 20, 2021 and the Speaker of the House becomes the President. The Founders prepared for a power-grab from the Executive branch.
No, it’s worse than that. That would include everyone that is up for election right now. Their terms all end at the beginning of January. So we would have a third of the senators left and that’s it. Two thirds of the senators and all of the House are up for re-election right now.
I was learning about this today and it seems that all the reps would also have to leave office (January 3rd, I believe) and acting president would then become the member of the Senate who has been there the longest — Chuck Grassley.
As for the Senate, state Governors can appoint Senators for the vacant seats. However, for the House, they cannot be replaced and must be elected.
If the states with blue Govs and red Senators appointed blue Senators instead, that would be enough to flip the senate for Democrats 51-49.
Would make for a wild situation.
I’d also like to add that the President does not have the authority to cancel an election. Congress would have to change that law.
Don’t worry Moscow Turtleface will get to that
I just can’t fathom how no one has the courage to step up and remove him.
I don’t know the American system that well but isn’t there a mechanism by which he can be deemed mentally unfit and removed?
The blood of thousands of people are going to be on his and the ones propping him up hands.
I think you are referring to the 25th amendment, which would give us President Pence. I think the Republicans are banking on re-election but history will not be kind to them when this is all over.
“Some of you may die but that is a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”
Dear God…you hit the nail on the head
What if the federal government actually does have ventilators and Trump is “hoarding” them as political bargaining chips with the state governors or simply because he can never release anything valuable, which naturally, “belongs” to him since, in his mind, possession is nine tenths of the law.
I think he’s not willing to help those areas most effected because they are Democratic states – New York, Washington. We’ll see if he changes his tune when Florida, Louisiana etc call states of emergency.
He does. It came out after he told the states to source their own. When they talked to the companies, they said they had already sold them to the federal government.
Can you point me to where y’all found this info? I’d really like to read more about this! It doesn’t surprise me. Appalling.
I think it came out during a conference call with governors.
The governor here in Massachusetts was one of the ones who reported it then.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/03/20/charlie-baker-donald-trump-coronavirus-medical-supplies
The cynic in me thinks that much of this high-handedness about getting the economy on track is because the heaviest impact is being felt in liberal states. It’d be a completely different story if this was ripping through the red states. Of course, that’s coming in the next few weeks, so who knows.
Yes-I think it will be everywhere. HIs rural supporters will be f’cked when they realize how few hospital beds and ventilators there are in their areas.
Stay indoors and safe my US celebitchy friends – confirmed cases in London (where I am) are skyrocketing and there is talk that the city will be put on a tighter lockdown if it continues to rise.
I really fear for you guys – u can’t stop putting pressure on your gov to take it seriously. All they care about it power and the stock market. Maybe COVID-19 will do what the Dems couldn’t.
@Digital Unicorn look at Ireland so laidback! I can’t keep shouting and stressing enough we need lockdown and tighter measures.
My work is open (non essential paint shop!) Building sites are open with absolutely no social distancing possible.
I can’t go to work because my child off school. As a single mother can’t leave her home alone. They bullied me to take annual leave or unpaid leave which i can’t afford.
I hopedwhen Boris woke up we will follow and nothing yet. Public transport on, sites on many shops open.
I saw the pics of the crowded tube (literally, people ON TOP of each other), sitting on benches together… WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??? HOW can someone NOT take this seriously anymore, or not think it will affect them, or someone they know/love??? I truly just don’t understand!!!
I am sitting here with a knot of anxiety in my stomach the size of a bowling ball. It NEVER goes away anymore. I am truly scared out of my mind. I’m thinking this is OUR speeding meteor (like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs).
“We save the economy by first saving lives. And we do it in that order” Governor Mike DeWine, Republican, Ohio. Being grateful he is running my state.
We will be following facts and science to save lives. Governor Hogan Republican governor of MD thank god
He wants people to continue working but he has never worked in his life.
I think he should definitely do a rally in the Red States and everyone should shake his hand.
Everyone else has already covered that trump is an idiot not fit for office who is getting people killed.
But we have a small family owned business, and the bill and the SBA small loan forgiveness package is the difference in being able to keep our 40+ employees on the payroll vs furloughing them for the next few months. We talked to our main local competition last night and they laid off all of their employees almost two weeks ago. I know there are so many people in our same situation, but this year will almost definitely be a loss for us and our goal is to keep the business afloat with our employees employed.
Wanted to add that the office is closed and we’ve got folks working from home for the foreseeable future.
My father fellow Trump supporter in Ny, feels they should open up the country in the midwest where there are fewer cases. I asked him what if it explodes and people die? My dad’s comment was well fewer rednecks. I was disgusted, but I bet Trump feels the same. He could truly careless about his base and doesn’t even know or care where places are in the midwest. East Coasters are East Coasters and only care about their region.
Trump is transactional. He is also a violent sadist, who is leveraging his power to get something from Governors before he gives them anything to save lives.
Here is what Tony Schwartz, ghostwriter of Trump’s book “The Art of the Deal”, told Reddit:
“I believe deeply that most people are better than their worst behaviours,” he wrote. “I also believe there are some who are simply irredeemable and evil. [Psychiatrist] Scott Peck called them ‘People of the Lie’. They lack any conscience, as Trump does, and so they’re almost purely evil. Trump is the most purely evil human being I’ve ever met…”
Y’all, Trump is becoming more unhinged by the moment in public and in private: https//www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/politics/Donald-trump-white-house-life-coronavirus/index.html
Yes! It is unbelievable! A President referring to “shithole countries” and nasty people! Because of his lack of any modicum of empathy, he sees no problem returning to business knowing (for the fourth time) that said decision means death to many because of his overblown ego. Lord, make him go away. Just go. You’ve done the damage, Go now.
Christ, if this happens, I hope Trudeau keeps the border closed. We don’t need to get sicker because of Trump.
As an asthmatic I would like to thank everyone who is trying to help contain this to protect people. My mother is 80 and she is not expendable. The 2.5 % of the people they are fine with letting die is 9 million people. As Bill Gates said the economy isn’t going to ramp back up while we go to work stepping over the bodies.
Nailed it in one panel.
https://twitter.com/tomtolestoons/status/1242487656732393473?s=21
When he was elected I said, “He will kill us all…”
I was thinking a war…
As someone in a lockdown state, I’m horrified that the rest of the country isn’t… it’s going to explode in the south any minute now. And it’s gonna be bad.
I agree with everything you say. I figured I would die because of the nuclear war that he started.
They were talking about on the ABC evening news last night about the nightmare that Louisiana is about to become leftover from Mardigras and their already strained and inadequate healthcare system.
What is fascinating to me is that all these money grubbing losers don’t even appear to USE their riches. McConnell needs radical plastic surgery/chin transplant and Trump need intense personal trainer, diet, 80lbs of liposuction, etc. Their suits/wardrobes look like shite and it does seem they take exotic vacays or anything?? What are they so intensely greedy? Hmm.
They create generational wealth so that their name and legacy lives on.
This is irresponsible and dangerous, and will make things worse. Some news out,ets have stopped carrying live his press conference because of inaccuracies. He may want things open but who is going to go to mass gatherings! What if there’s a spike in outbreaks once everyone goes back to business as usual? This is all about him wanting to hold his rallies again. We don’t have the luxury of being able to cover $35,000 hospital bills.
This dumb fuck is gonna get everyone killed. I hope it doesn’t come to that, and maybe it won’t be literally everyone, but he is going to put a LOT of people at unnecessary risk because all he sees are dollar signs and voting ballots.
Joe Biden was on The View yesterday morning and he was calm, cool, mature and PRESIDENTIAL. He said he talks to Barack often (I love that!). Boy is he going to have one f’ing MESS on his hands come January if we all survive this. We are going to end up being such an outcast by the rest of the world because of the way we have (not) handled this. We are going to have sanctions put on us like the world has never seen. I can see California distancing themselves and leaving the union and they will take with them their fifth largest economy in the world with them.
That’s the way it always is, republicans make a gigantic mess of things and Democrats have to clean it up. You think the American people would learn but nah. F’n worse than ever. I’d be so gd tired of that sh** if I was in government. Thank goodness that some good people have the inner strength and reserves to keep fighting for us. I know it’s a collective effort, and we should take heart from their example. It just makes one despair sometimes.
Oh and I wanted to add that most of our governors are acting way more presidential than the president! Shout out to my governor JB Pritzker of Illinois!
Considering DT is not a man of faith and only worships money, I find it odd that he chose Easter Sunday.
Apparently Easter Sunday is a big day for hotel restaurants…
The evangelists (like that snake oil woman who’s employed with our tax dollars at the WH) want their money now so of course Easter
In my house we only recognize two presidents – Cuomo and Newsom.
Exactly, I’m in California and I’m so proud of Newsom. And Cuomo is doing awesome too.
I’m so scared. He’s going to get so many people killed doing this. I hope and pray (and I don’t pray lol) that he’s just talking out his ass per usual and this won’t happen.
It boggles the mind that he doesn’t understand that a TRUE lockdown would not only show leadership, but get the country back on its feet sooner. Two weeks or a month of only essential personnel going out and about would help SO MUCH, and we might have a fighting chance of quashing this thing by the summer. If we go back to operating normally in two weeks, we’re screwed indefinitely, and so many people will die. Not only that, but the economy will STILL tank. What an idiot.
Exactly, agree! What an idiot is right
There are only two explanations for Trump’s behavior, he’s either looney tunes and merry melodies out of his damn mind OR he’s the most selfish SOB on the face of the earth. Either way,. he’s proven completely unfit to hold that office.