I’m still absorbing the announcement that Prince Charles has tested positive for coronavirus. While corona is deadly across the board, for all genders and age groups and races, Charles is in a particularly difficult demographic: male and over the age of 70. For what it’s worth, Charles is – by most accounts – in very good health for a man his age. He’s always been a healthy eater, he’s always been athletic and fit, he’s never been a smoker and he meditates a lot. So what else do we know? The Daily Mail has an up-to-the-minute breakdown of when Charles was likely contagious, when he last saw the Queen and whether he’s spoken to his family.
Did he get it from Prince Albert? The spokesman said it was impossible to say where he caught it from because of the large number of public engagements he has carried out in ‘recent weeks’ – but it will raise questions over whether he got it from Prince Albert and if he has spread it himself. A source said Charles’ doctor’s most conservative estimate was that the prince was contagious on March 13 – 24 hours after he last saw his mother.
The Queen is currently fine: A Buckingham Palace spokesman has said: ‘Her Majesty The Queen remains in good health. The Queen last saw The Prince of Wales briefly on the morning of March 12 and is following all the appropriate advice with regard to her welfare’.
He kept up his schedule through mid-March: Charles’s last public engagement was on March 12, but he did have a number of private meetings with Highgrove and Duchy individuals, all of whom have been made aware. They added that Charles has not seen the Queen since before March 13. The heir to the throne’s last public engagement was on March 12 when he attended a Mansion House dinner hosted by William Russell, Lord Mayor of the City of London, and George Brandis, the High Commissioner for Australia, in aid of the Australian bushfire relief and recovery effort. Sometime during the day the prince saw the Queen privately.
Charles has spoken to his sons & his mother: The source said the prince and the duchess remained in good spirits, and the prince was up and about and not bedridden. Medical advice is that it is unlikely to escalate into a more serious case. Charles has spoken to his sons the Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of Sussex, as well as the Queen. Charles had been displaying “mild symptoms” over the weekend before being tested on Monday.
The Mail also points out that the last time Charles saw his whole family was on March 9th, but the doctors say that the virus probably wouldn’t have incubated that long, where Charles would only have started feeling cold-like symptoms around the 20th or so. For those royal reporters who will inevitably argue that THIS is the reason why Harry “needs to return home” – for what? So he too can go into isolation in the UK? It’s not like Harry would even be able to go to Scotland and see his father, and clearly, William (the actual Future Future King, remember) doesn’t seem to be making any moves to see his father either.
I’m really uncomfortable with this whole “Prince Albert gave it Charles!” thing. That is why Charles’ office said they didn’t know who gave what to whom. It’s also clear that March 7-15 in London was an actual viral stew. It would not surprise me if we later discovered that so many people doing big events in London during that time period were all exposed and infected.
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I hope Charles and everyone else infected gets better soon. God help us all!
We wish PC a speedy recovery
I would hope both William & Harry stayed far away. They both have small children w/young not yet fully formed immune systems. Health to all, high & low, big & small all over the world
So, this why Cain and Unable has that photo op recently!
Power grab…was in bad taste.
I don’t think they had a choice to be honest. There was a lot of rumbling about how quiet the Queen has been during this time. Supporters defending her saying she’s too old to be dealing with this shit, but then that leads to the question as to ‘what’s the point of the Monarchy if they aren’t around during times of national crisis’.
I never felt like the Cambridges really like doing public visits; they’re a bit awkward (that’s just my personal opinion; I know I would absolutely hate it!). Whereas Harry is very charismatic and friendly, and Meghan has a great game face and gives amazing speeches. I think William and Kate would be happy to just send some staged photos to the Daily Mail to publish and sunbathe in Mystique.
In a non every one dies way, I’m wondering what would happen if Harry becames king.
The daily mail would have an utter field day.
That comment is disgraceful… Really?’?? Would tou like someone to say something like that about your family?
I know you said in a non every one dies way, but I think you just said that to cover your ass for asking what would happen if a six-year-old, a four-year-old, and a one-year-old die, which is the only way Harry could ever become King. I think William’s an asshole, but damn!
For criss’sakes, again, dying is not the only option. William can quit. That’s also a flipping option. Why do you automatically assume death is the only option?
Wouldn’t the kids still be in the line of succession regardless? Even if William stepped away, they’re already in the line of succession. To my understanding he’d be at best a regent for them?
The way I understand it, you need to be crowned first before you can quit the job. I think George would still be in the running this way. I think. I’m not sure if daddy can yank him from the line of succession, he too might have to be crowned before he can quit.
Lady D: you don’t have to be crowned. The moment Elizabeth dies Charles is king, the moment he does, William is, and so on.
Edward VIII never had a coronation but is still counted. Abdication wouldn’t remove William’s children from the succession.
Hands up, I did not intend to be offensives.
Sorry for any offensive caused.
Dont worry- i didnt take offence. Dont know why people are up in arms. Its a joke
I do not want anyone to die before their proper time.
However, I do get a giggle imaging the nuclear nervous breakdown Piers Morgan would have if for some reason Harry became King with Meghan as his Queen.
I understood it was a joke.
If William quits it goes to George, who would have to “quit” then Charlotte, then Louis…. let’s just all hope no one else has to die from COVID19 regardless of their nationality or station in life.
Please don’t feel bad, I understood it the way you had intended.
I wasn’t offended at all. It’s a good question and interesting to ponder what would happen if Harry were King.
B, many people realize you were just making fun of the Daily Mail, not plotting or condoning deaths! (But maybe do yourself a favor and just don’t read all the comments…)
Please let us not go in such a direction with this sort of comment. No one deserves this illness. Not you, or your family, not Prince Charles or his family (and certainly not the Cambridge’s 3 children). Much less actively banging on about everyone in family dying. I actively and strongly dislike Trump, but I do not wish him infected. Wishing him or his family dead is just not the person I wish to be.
It was a dig at the fail mail and UK tabloids.
@JA Lowcountry Lady, I have taken all the “what if” comments as jabs at the The Dim, The Slow and The Fail too.
Do you realize how many people would have to die first?
NONE. ABSOLUTELY NONE.
If William decided to quit and take his under 18s with him, no one can stop him. He has that right. If that happens (it will never) then Harry is next in line. That’s my understanding at least. So no one has to die. All that being said, if William ever quit and took kids with him, , that throne would go to HRH Prince Andrew of House Pedophile. Harry would in no way, shape or form agree to becoming king and subject his wife and kid(s) to the British media abuse. None.
William CANNOT remove his children from the line of succession for any reason regardless of their ages.
Only Parliament may remove someone from the line of succession with an official Act of Parliament.
Nope, the right to make decisions for yr underage children still lies with the parent. That’s jut the law. The kids don’t belong to the crown nor to the state, they are William’s kids, and the crown can not impose anything on his kids if he doesn’t want it end of story. Many were saying here how Archie belongs to the queen or crown or whatever and that the queen can take the kid away from his parents etc, but it’s not the case.
Chaos is a ladder. That said, hope he fully recovers because William is not ready. Also, the push to strip and demean the Sussexes now looks very shortsighted in lieu of this. That insensitive joke he made in Ireland will come back to bite him. Some of the stories are quite bad, even in young people. Maybe it’s good the Sussexes are in Canada in a place less densely populated. They probably had to quarantine. This virus is highly infectious, with one person passing it on to 2.5 others ( checked that stats), and so on and so on. Read in NY Times about a party in Connecticut of 50 people, 25 tested positive https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/coronavirus-westport-connecticut-party-zero.html?referringSource=articleShare. Maybe it will finally hit how serious this is. However, Trump wants the churches packed by Easter. No thanks, I’ll stay home.
William will never be ready, that’s what’s scary. I hope, by the time Charles “shuffles off this mortal coil” the monarchy will be even more of a titular situation and stripped of all the usual hangers-on that suck up the sovereign grant. Also, I would hope that many of the grand residences and castles they currently occupy will be turned into public museums with the monies they earn through tourism NOT going to support a lavish lifestyle for the assorted Doolittles in the BRF.
Charles at 38 would have been ready, but William at 38 is not. I don’t think he ever will. His disinterest will be hidden from most and just like the sycophants protect Dump, they will protect William.
Harry definitely shouldn’t be travelling if he could see his father or not, but I dont put it past the media to spin it to “Harry hates his father!” Because the ridiculousness will never end.
This kind of bothers me: “and clearly, William (the actual Future Future King, remember) doesn’t seem to be making any moves to see his father either.” — It wouldnt be smart for William to go visit his father.. its not smart for ANYONE to see him. I’m not going to throw shade at him for not going to visit someone with COVID-19, its heartbreaking but it’s happening all over the world, people not being able to see their relatives.
I hope Charles recovers well, I hope Camilla stays safe .. is she with him? Did it say? I’m sure Harry and William and checking on him fairly consistently and thats about the most that they can do.
I didn’t read it as shading William for not seeing his father at this time, more a read of the differing coverage of both princes.
Self isolation should not be a problem for Charles and Camilla, they live in a stately home with wings; west and south. We wish Charles a speedy recovery. Harry should not be bullied to travel to England, he is not a doctor. He has his own immediate family to protected.
I’m waiting for the stories of mean Meghan keeping Harry away from his dying father. It’s pathetic.
That refers to the differing coverage.
During Xmas, the rags blared that Harry needs to come home for Xmas with the Queen and what if it’s the Queen and Phillip’s last Christmas, both of them are on death’s door and mean old Meghan was preventing Harry from being with his family and keeping Archie away from his great grandparents who love him so.
Meanwhile, the Queen did not visit Phillip. Neither did Charles, Anne, Andrew or Edward.
Neither did William, Kate, George, Charlotte, Louis, Zara & her kids, Peter & his kids, Edward’s kids or Beatrice and Eugenie.
But HARRY was in the wrong for not visiting poor old Phillip on his deathbed for Christmas.
We all know the media coverage will claim Harry is wrong for not visiting Charles and mean old Meghan is keeping Archie away from his grandfather’s last minutes of life, but they will say NOTHING about William not visiting Charles either.
Yesterday the royal reporters were whining that they have no work, well now they have something to write about. Also, it will look incredibly small and petty if they use this as an excuse to once again attack Meghan, and guilt Harry. However, that is how those reporters operate and they’ll stick with the playbook. The best thing they can do is stay where they are. If they need to go back, it can be arranged on a private or military flight.
Oh dear Lord, British tabloids, my goodness. They always blame someone somehow.🙄🙄🙄🙄
Yeah , I don’t get the insistence that he got it from Albert. Charles interacts with so many people on a regular basis, and considering how mild the symptoms can be for many, i’m sure he interacted with people who had it and had no idea.
Exactly Becks. The blame game is what people like to do and that’s why I stay home when sick. But this this does bring up a very interesting point that IF Charles passed from this than William is next in line. Before modern medicine, these things happened, the next in line passing. I wish them all good health and I’m sure they will survive this because they have the best health care available. He was also able to get tested when the average citizen would be turned away.
For all we know Albert could’ve gotten it from Charles.
I hope he only has a mild case and recovers quickly.
He could have picked it up anywhere, really.
I had a Dr. appointment on the 20th. He said it’s about 5.1 days of incubation, I think. He was super glad I’ve been allowed to work from home, though as I do have pre existing chronic conditions. My mother just told me that she has been given a nitro patch to wear because they think she has a bit of a blockage. She’s still working, albeit from 5pm to 1am doing merchandising at their store. I worry much more about her than I do myself.
I wonder how Cain will feel when a lot of those around him are sickened, and he’s reminded of his gross jokes about Coronavirus.
I doubt he’ll care.
Hope he makes a recovery as he’s in the age range where he has to worry.
Now we know why William has been so ‘keen’ to push the statesman narrative – he and Katie Keen are prepping to get closer to the throne and all the power and money.
They all have money. Nobody in that family wants for anything. And the Royal Family, in the real world, has very little power.
Yep. Pointed this out yesterday. I don’t doubt that Will knew about his dad when he did that Call Center PR trip. He’s getting excited that he might be a step closer in obtaining more money and power. People with money always want more – is there any doubt of that? In terms of power? The power to be spiteful and vindictive to people he doesn’t like.
Really we talk about people being mean to Harry and Meg but it is okay to assume Will is such a creep he’d be joyfully contemplating his father’s death? When we go there we’re no better than the peeps who rag on Harry and Meghan
@bluemoonhorse. Pray you are wrong but think you are right. God help us as tiny tyrants try to take control of the world. Hoping for PC recovery
@Cate – I can actually speak of experience here. If you have a relative with a lot of money, it is unfortunately a side effect that you are aware of what it means when they die (or have the potential to die soon). Even the best of us have those thoughts and I do not think Will is the best of us, neither do I think he has a close and loving relationship with his father. JMO of course as I don’t know these people.
Um, William is thisclose to the throne. It’s not a judgement or character assessment. He just is.
The UK has so many cases who knows where prince Charles got it.
He could have contracted it anywhere. I hope he makes a cull recovery. Such scary times we’re living in.
Interesting typo, MeghanNotMarkle:)
The real question gripping the British press right now is how will they find a way to blame Meghan.
Brits are joking about this already.
I just I saw a headline that said “Meghan Coronavirus! Prince Charles…”
I didn’t click on the article to find out the rest of the article as it’s obviously click-bait, but they really will squeeze her name in anywhere, lol
Can anyone in England displaying mild symptoms get a test ?
If your rich or royal I imagine you can get a test -and you can get anti-virals. The rest of us? Not so much.
The report said he met the testing criteria and was tested at the NHS in aberdeenshire.
If you are not showing symptoms (like it states Camilla is), testing could be invalid. But for the rich and powerful, testing will happen regardless if it means anything.
No. There are a lot of frontline NHS workers who have not been tested yet (or provided with protective equipment.
At the moment you can only get tested if you are already in hospital and show severe symptoms… unless you pay for private testing (there are doctors on Harley Street charging £300 a pop). I do think the government is trying to increase the numbers.
I don’t wish him ill, but the fact he’s had a test has just been another rich celebrity who’s had a test.
What’s worse is that a lot of wealthy middle-class Brits have fled the cities and have gone to their second homes in the Welsh/ English/ Scottish countrysides. Many of these rural areas don not have the infrastructure (beds in local hospitals, food in supermarkets etc) to deal with such an influx of people. Since the main outbreaks have been in the Cities, it feels like these rich people are fleeing to the countryside WITH the virus.
Prince Charles could have stayed in London, but he’s fled to Balmoral in Scotland WITH the virus, directly against the government and local councils’ warnings, which has come across as very selfish behaviour. I’ve seen super right-wing British Conservatives (the most Brexity of the Brexity) criticise him.
@Ruby_Woo – I really must agree with you. There really was no reason I can think of for Charles to leave London except that he just wanted to leave London.
@BayTampaBay: I remember the screeching that occured when Harry and Meghan didn’t bring thier baby across the Atlantic during a pandemic to meet the loving and gentle Queen who might die any day now. But there was nothing, zero, nada about the fact Prince Charles wouldn’t be near his elderly mother at this time. The double-standard is incredible.
Severe symptoms – was not tested, was not admitted to hospital. Is now dead. Yep, plenty of testing for the rich and powerful.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/london-woman-36-dies-of-suspected-covid-19-after-being-told-she-is-not-priority
Bluemoonhorse: It makes me feel sick. I see what’s happening in Italy and it feels like we did nothing in the time that we had to prepare and are just waiting for the blow.
My sister has been home bound and self-isolating after showing symptoms (she also has other health conditions), called the NHS number and nothing! Just stay home and that’s it.
I’m in the US (Oklahoma GOP governor finally locked us down – he’s a Trump 2.0). My son’s girlfriend is in the UK as is her mom. Both have suppressed immune systems. She expects her mom to catch this and die. We are keeping you all in our thoughts. Isolate and clean is all you can do.
For your sister, I’ve been reading take a lot of warm/hot drinks to help break up the mucus. Don’t lay down, keep your upper body elevated. Use a humidifier. Vit C and Zinc. Wipe everything down with a 10 percent solution of bleach, especially anything metal (like doorknobs, fridge doors, etc..). I will be keeping her in my thoughts ((hugs)).
@bluemoonhorse: awww, thank you. That’s really good advice x
The author goes through a lot of effort to emphasize that Charles didn’t infect anyone, especially not the Queen. The difference between the dates is 24 hours. I hope he didn’t, but it’s not outside the realm of possibility.
I hope Charles makes a full recovery. If William was a sociopath, he may be thinking how much closer to the throne he is.
IF either Charles or William become King shortly, IF… the UK will not be in the mood for an obscenely expensive, extravagant coronation with jewels and crowns. The mood here is REALLY sour.
Again this shows how stupid William and Kate were for visiting the call centre for a photo op. They were in contact with Charles and they could spread it to others.
And Charles is still doing work with the virus. What is future future king doing right now?
Posted this yesterday, Will sees the throne in reach. He knew this news when he did his PR stroll the other day. He wants that throne bad. And with Coronavirus he stands a good chance at getting closer to it and perhaps even achieving it before the end of the year. I hope Charles has his will all up to date as well as the QEII.
Remember the grief over Harry and Meghan not bringing Archie? This is exactly why they didn’t bring the baby.
It wasn’t responsible to bring a baby around adults who meet hundreds or thousands of people every week.
I know! Absolutely ridiculous! Dickie Arbiter threw an absolute hissy fit. This week another Royal Reporter commented that the BRF have been really quiet compared to other European Royals and Dickie Arbiter told him off! I could understand if they were critical towards everyone. Fine, be critical, but they really save all their venom for the Sussexes.
There is a posh British celebrity who also criticised the Sussexes for not bringing Archie siting ‘scientific data proves it does not affect children’. Now she’s trending on UK twitter cos she’s fled to the countryside with her family to her second home, while her husband is displaying symptoms, directly against government guidelines to stop people spreading the virus to rural areas.
Poor Dickie crying about the drop off in hi income.
@Yoyo: Every cloud has a silver lining I guess…?
OMG I just went on Twitter UK #abolishthemonarchy… and it is NOT pretty!! William is getting RAKED, as is Charles (saying him fleeing there is pushing Scotland MUCH closer to demanding separation).
Question, why are the English people, in this day and age, still exerting control and forceful rule over the Scottish and Irish peoples?
If Archie had been brought to England then the tabloids, especially Piers Morgan, would have said: “It wasn’t responsible to bring a baby around adults who meet hundreds or thousands of people every week.”
The tabloids will print anything to cast bad shade and the evil eye or Meghan & Harry.
So true.
I hope Prince Charles recovers from the symptoms. Waiting for the other shoe to drop from the BTM.
The line of succession is this:
Should Prince Charles pass before the Queen, Prince William becomes King upon her death.
Should both Prince Charles and Prince William pass before the Queen, Prince George becomes King.
HOWEVER, Prince Harry would be named Regent and serve as “King” until Prince George turns 18.
This is a very unlikely scenario even with today’s news.
Regency isn’t necessarily dependent on succession. The Queen made Philip Regent over Charles in the event of her death. Likewise, William could name Kate, or Kate and another person, as Regent. This assumes that William is king and alive long enough before his death to do so. If the Queen outlives both Charles and William, she can appoint the Regent for George. The monarch amends the Regency Act in these cases, as the Queen did when making Philip Regent (1953 Amendment.)
What’s interesting to me (and NOT any commentary on Charles dying from coronavirus), but if Charles did die before the queen then William does NOT get the Duchy of Cornwall title (although he would get access to the revenue). The Duchy of Cornwall title and territory is only for the eldest son of the monarch, not grandson.
So it would go to Prince Andrew?
The title would be left vacant until William becomes king and then goes to George.
I hope he recovers quickly but notice how nobody is questioning how they disobeyed government advice of not travelling to go to their country(Scotland) home possibly infecting others+how camilla got tested despite the rules it being for only sick patients in hospitals!!! One thing is clear in this pandemic, the rules dont apply to the rich
And how many people he interacted with as he decided to carry on with business as usual. So selfish!
The Daily Mail already has an article up blaming Meghan saying that Harry is forbidden to see his bedridden father. Typical.
Just about the say the same thing. It’s so predictable that they would find a way to write something negative about Meghan. Anyone with a brain knows that harry couldn’t even see Charles even if he wanted to. That won’t stop the haters clinging on to this with everything they got. Most people now can’t see their loved ones.
I do wonder though who is leaking information about the Sussexes. There have, recently, been articles (like the new one about Meghan forbidding Harry to see his poor, sick Papa) with weird, very specific, information from a “friend” of the couple that have ended up to, while being largely composed of bullsh*t, have kernels of truth. I am thinking that it is someone in the Sussexes’ household on Vancouver Island that is miffed about having to wear latex gloves!
Probably made up, it’s common sense that they wouldn’t travel in these current conditions at all. Countries around the world have banned non-essential travel, plus if they do leave Canada to enter the UK, they won’t be allowed back into Canada – they’ve closed their borders.
There are no leaks. It is fiction.
Once again the press is throwing garbage against the wall to see what sticks.
@Mary,
Marie was talking about The Fail, so I’d like to know what “kernels of truth” you’re talking about.
I am not aware of any approved anti-virals for Covid19 that have been proven effective. There is an experimental anti-viral that is currently under trial in both China and Washington State (USA) that is very promising but they have only a tiny amount available. Doctors in my area are trying to use the malaria/lupus drug hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin. Yes, I know that antibiotics don’t work on viruses. People here are getting sepsis and dying from bacterial infections while fighting the Covid19 virus and that is what it is for.