Duchess Kate was ‘horrified’ when Meghan ‘shouted at a member of Kate’s staff’?

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There’s another new book coming out about the royal family, this one about all of the legendary shenanigans taking place at Kensington Palace. The book is Kensington Palace: An Intimate Memoir From Queen Mary To Meghan Markle by Tom Quinn. Princess Margaret and Lord Snowdon moved there shortly after their wedding and Margaret did extensive renovations to several of the palace apartments. Then Princess Diana and Charles lived there, until they separated and just Diana lived there. The current occupants of Apartment 1 are the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, but for several years, Prince Harry (and then Meghan) lived in Nottingham Cottage, part of the larger KP complex. This is where Tom Quinn’s book takes off – they claim that Meghan was terrible to poor Kate and not only that, Meghan was so awful that Kensington Palace staffers were left with only one option: to disrespect her and call her names behind her back constantly. The Daily Mail was of course eager to excerpt from the book – you can read the full excerpt here. Here’s some of the stuff about the Cambridges & Sussexes:

The Sussexes refused to move in beside Will & Kate? What William and Kate will not have, however, is the company of the couple who should have been their nearest neighbours: Harry and Meghan. The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester had already vacated the next-door apartment, and — as always — it had been expensively refurbished. But living so close to William and Kate was clearly a step too far for Meghan: the apartment remains empty and unused — a taxpayer-funded embarrassment. Nor did Meghan find much solace at Frogmore Cottage in Windsor: once she’d settled in, says a Kensington insider, ‘Meghan realised that living there would be like living in the Russian steppes.’ Indeed, the remoteness of Windsor was the final straw — and the couple are now forging a new life for themselves in North America.

Kate was nice to Meghan when Meghan first came around: ‘Kate is actually one of the nicest royals, and she hasn’t let life in her extremely grand apartment at Kensington go to her head — or at least not too much,’ said a palace insider. ‘She is nice to her staff, in the main, and she was very warm towards Meghan when she arrived. But tensions were bound to arise because Meghan inevitably had to accept that, although she is a duchess, she is not married to the next king. I think she has found that difficult to deal with. And although Harry loved their cottage in the grounds, Meghan was conscious that it was tiny in comparison to the vast apartment complex where Kate and William live.’

Meghan yelled at staff? ‘Being a royal goes to everyone’s head eventually — and after a while, William and Harry would meet without their wives in tow to avoid rows and stony silences.’ But what exactly triggered Harry and Meghan’s move to Windsor? ‘Kate was horrified when Meghan shouted at a member of Kate’s staff — that was definitely the beginning of discussions about leaving Kensington Palace,’ the former servant continues. ‘Like many people not used to dealing with servants, Meghan overdoes the imperiousness; so on the one hand she wants to be like Diana, a people’s princess, and on the other she wants people to stand to attention when she clicks her fingers.’

Jesus, these people: From the viewpoint of many of the palace staff, she was the dominant partner in the marriage. As Harry has said himself: ‘What Meghan wants, Meghan gets’. This cut no ice with the staff who, according to reliable reports, began using rather unflattering nicknames for her within weeks of her arrival: ‘Me-Gain’, the ‘Duchess of Difficult’ and even ‘Di 2′ or ‘Di Lite’.

Meghan was upset that people were racist, basically? Meghan, meanwhile, worried that people would look down on her or treat her differently because she was a divorced, mixed-race American. ‘There are the more reactionary elements in the Royal Family who do look down on her, and she knows it,’ added a Kensington insider. ‘This makes her overreact sometimes — she doesn’t have Kate’s assured way of dealing with people.’

[From The Daily Mail]

Yeah, I always thought it was a “mistake” for Harry and Meghan to move to Frogmore Cottage in Windsor – I thought that they would need a full-time place in London, and I never really understood why they went to Frogmore and made that their “base.” Part of it was their choice, I have no doubt, but I also wonder about the options given to them by the Queen. Were they actually offered the Gloucesters’ old KP apartment or not? What was clear is that both Harry and Meghan wanted to get away from the toxicity of Kensington Palace in particular. And this is why – because the staffers had some kind of Stockholm Syndrome when it came to the Cambridges. Those staffers were so used to witnessing (or being the targets of) William’s screaming tantrums that when Meghan came into the family and she “had ideas” or “wanted to speak to staff,” they had some kind of racist, sexist, anti-American meltdown.

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  1. Natalee says:

    Lmao, these lazy courtiers reeeeeeally couldn’t handle anyone wanting to get work done, could they?

  2. BlueSky says:

    Ah yes, the “angry black woman” trope. I guess William’s temper tantrums are okay or the fact they had a lot of turnover way before Meghan was in the picture is irrelevant.
    Couldn’t handle someone with any work ethic.

    • Ali says:

      These people are predictable.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      yes, I love the admission that she was treated poorly for being a mixed-race, divorced woman but that she “over-reacted” to the poor treatment which is code for she had the audacity to notice & bristle at the racism so we just ramped it up.

      this whole narrative about how Meghan was having a hard time accepting that William, and not Harry, would be King is beyond bizarre.

      • MA says:

        @Pottymouth If I’m a reporter, the story I’m leading with is that the BRF/palace were racist and looked down on Meghan. Weird how that’s treated as an afterthought, no biggie just a little racism. That’s the real story that would frame whatever supposed tensions Meghan had with staff.

      • ADS says:

        “this whole narrative about how Meghan was having a hard time accepting that William, and not Harry, would be King is beyond bizarre.”

        No it makes perfect sense. Basically Meghan refused to dim her light and let Kate and William pass her ideas and hard work off as their own. You see for racist Brits and the media that feeds them, Meghan’s graft and success is precisely the evidence that she doesn’t know her place and is a narcissist. In their view Kate should have been at the forefront (never mind that their bonkers obsession with Meghan is a huge part of why she is so famous).

        And the fact that Meghan didn’t stay here in the UK and take the unrelenting abuse and constant threats to her and her family, is also proof that she is a weak person who does not know how to be royal. Because you see the other thing we expect here in the UK is for women in the public eye to endure abuse. Especially if they are conventionally good looking. Because in being successful and beautiful, they are essentially ‘asking for it’. That is the Daily Heil’s entire raison d’être. And to be black, successful, and beautiful? And on all fronts, more so than their precious lily white Kate? Nah, people here were always going to absolutely lay into her. But yet still expect her to stay and be thankful for all the status and fame and money.

      • songbirds_thrive says:

        @pottymouth pup said:
        “… this whole narrative about how Meghan was having a hard time accepting that William, and not Harry, would be King is beyond bizarre.”

        It makes absolutely no sense. Twilight Zone freakin’ ridiculosity. More and more the royal firm and the Brit tabloids keep proving why the Sussex family is safer and better off living in the States, in Canada, and anywhere else except Great Britain.

    • I am Mimi says:

      I came to say that. It’s a dog whistle. Black women can’t be emphatic or passionate without being called angry, in not so many words.

    • Alarmjaguar says:

      Exactly, with a pinch of the “uppity” trope as well (“‘Like many people not used to dealing with servants, Meghan overdoes the imperiousness”). Gross, gross, gross.

    • Louise177 says:

      I hope but doubt there’s specifics in there’s book. Odd to say Meghan yelled at Kate’s staff member but don’t give any details of the circumstances.

      • EveV says:

        The excerpts in this article are ridiculous. Meghan knew she was being looked down upon, so she overcompensated by acting very grand ? Am I reading that right? Yet, Kate doesn’t act “that grand” (which contradicts what we have heard before, that Kate acts “quite grand”) and Meghan just doesn’t have Kate’s way of dealing with people… Um, the bullsiht is so deep, I don’t even know where to begin. Not even sure there are dog whistles, pretty sure the racism in these excerpts is pretty overt.

  3. Abby says:

    I’m afraid my eyes are going to get stuck rolling back in my head at this fan fiction. Please. I highly doubt Meghan yelled at the staff, and I can’t take any of this seriously when it’s so obviously injected with bias. It is not serious journalism. At all. And these sources are trash. How can professional people go about their day b*tching like this to the media and keep their jobs??

    • Mac says:

      This gossip came out around the time Meghan allegedly made Kate cry and had a hissy fit over her tiara. I doubt there is even a grain of truth in any of them.

      • Aria says:

        I doubt meghan made Kate cry. Kate is very mean person. William and kate created this narrative from the beginning to poison Meghan any positive image towards her. Two things brf learned from diana is that they cant control diana image when it’s too late because in the beginning itself they didnt crushed her image and two this time they cant kill and get away . This is why cambriges created this narrative that Meghan is horrible and diva etc etc. Because what you put in public will forever in the mind of public like with diana scandal diana is the first one to paint Charles and camilla in bad light and it stuck with people forever that Charles and camilla are bad . Even though they’re are many times that diana belittle Charles and poke fun at him and called him in a horrible manner. But in the end diana get this message out and public got clearly thing about these things. Like taylor swift how she always created a narrative which paint her in good light and whatever feud she clearly is the first one to speak and set narrative for the entire course even when she is wrong public will support her . Like in Kate Perry feud , scooter feud .

      • Tessa says:

        Charles put down Diana publicly not the other way around. He did it in front of a lot of people when they were in Canada, he made a comment that he ‘needed two wives’ while DIana visibly cringed. He was witnessed talking about Diana’s “small mind,” discussed the”virtues” of mistresses at a dinner table, and made a snide remark about Diana wanting to “shop” on a tour and not doing anything seriously (Jephson witnessed this). I never once heard DIana do this to Charles or heard about it. Charles confirmed what DIana had accused him of when he gave an interview admitting adultery. CHarles and Camilla put themselves in a bad light. Before DIana came along, courtiers warned the Queen about CHarles and married Camilla, Charles also caused embarrassment in 1980 taking Camilla as his escort to an official engagement to Zimbabwe. THe Cambridge/Sussex case is totally different.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles totally disrespected DIana. Especially when he allowed his mistress to sit in Diana’s chair at the HIghgrove dinner table (and before the separation).

      • Yvette says:

        @Mac … Thank you for bringing up the “Meghan made Kate cry” thing. I believe there is another narrative here, and it features Kate. I truly believe that Kate was a bit threatened by Meghan when she came along and found ways to dig at her because of it. Is there anyone here who doesn’t believe that Kensington Palace staff are controlable, if not by William and Kate then by an iron-willed Chief of Staff? Discreation is the key to such a high profile gig. If Kate and William didn’t want certain information getting out, it wouldn’t get out.

        I don’t doubt for a minute that many of the KP staff were decidedly frostly and snide to Meghan for being a woman of color. What came up most during the nearly 2-years Harry and Meghan tried to make it work was that Meghan didn’t “know her place.” These comments started shortly after Meghan and Harry’s first succesful Royal trip abroad where people loved the couple and especially Meghan. The KP Courtiers and Tabloid Press were furious. How dare Meghan be more vivacious and popular than Kate! How dare Harry and Meghan try to out shine William and Kate! How dare Meghan expect her staff to adhere to her work hours!

        The best move Harry and Meghan ever made was moving out of Kensington Palace. By all accounts Nottingham Cottage is extremely small and was deemed nearly too small for Harry when he lived there as a bachelor so how could anyone question the Duke and Duchess of Sussex wanting to move to bigger digs? And why would they want to move into the apartment next to Kate and Wills when their every move was reported to the Tabs by the KP staff? If it were that important to keep Harry close, why didn’t William and Kate invite Harry to live in the ‘apartment next door’ before he married Meghan? I think they only wanted them to live there as a control.

        This book is a hit job, and I find it no more than another attempt to puff up the Cambridges. The only sin Harry and Meghan committed was not being able to hide their natural light under a bushel. Were they expected to change who they are just to make William and Kate feel more secure?

      • Tessa says:

        Unfortunately those who loathe Meghan will buy the book and get all gleeful. I am not going near it.

    • Noodle says:

      @Abby, the really unfair part is that even if she did “yell” at the staff, why is she held to a much higher standard than anyone else? I lose my temper from time to time, and I have yelled at my kids. It’s being human. I am SURE every single one of those living in Kensington are guilty of the same (and worse), yet they focus on this one incident where Meghan supposedly yelled at a member of K’s staff.

      If we are basing public perception of Meghan on a singular incident (and no one is talking about other incidents, which if they existed, would be harped on in the press), that is 100% unfair. I am not ruling out that maybe she got frustrated and spoke harshly, but that doesn’t make her the angry, selfish troll that they are picturing her to be.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Who knows? Maybe the said staff member was being particularly a*ssholish (which in all likelihood is the real story) and she just got fed up and lost her cool. If so, she’s human, as are we all!!! No one else can say they wouldn’t do the same in that situation. Based on what we have seen and what we know of her character, I just can’t imagine her being awful to people just for the hell of it. I also can’t imagine having to keep quiet and let people ruin your good name.

      • Noodle says:

        @swirlmamad Absolutely. All of these are possible scenarios. We don’t know, but given how often the “She yelled at a staff member one time” story is pulled out as evidence of her character, it would seem that this is a one-off. If there were other incidents, they would be trotting those out to the press. I can’t imagine my entire character being judged by one time I lost my temper, and given the racial undertones of this article (and the admission that some people within KP are racist), it certainly suits their narrative to present her this way.

    • ravynrobyn says:

      @ ABBY-I rolled my eyes too far back & they did stick, lol.

      ETA-posted in the wrong place 🙄

  4. Loretta says:

    Another book, another time when Royal Family and courtiers look racist and toxic.

  5. Priscila Bezerra-Fischer says:

    ‘There are the more reactionary elements in the Royal Family who do look down on her, and she knows it,’ added a Kensington insider. ‘This makes her overreact sometimes — she doesn’t have Kate’s assured way of dealing with people.’

    This is exactly how low key racists react: you are the one bringing this upon you. Why are you mad this woman wore a moor brooch? Why are you mad someone joked your baby looked like a chimp? WHY ARE YOU MAD?

    Yes, it is all Meghas fault you are racists- it is her fault she was not there for it.


    Unbelievable hos this people always, ALWAYS show their asses.

    and they saying that Kate is used to having servants and knows how to treat them…oh my God. I hate these people so. much.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate was reported as being nasty to her servants before Meghan came along.

      • Carrie says:

        I have seen which one of the two women have been nasty – in public and in a church at that – and it wasn’t Meghan.
        I too no longer care how much they push cute children. NOTHING against the children. But the parents. Wow. The absolute nastiness and racism screams out.
        Kate’s face in church. Nasty.

    • Truthiness says:

      That was so triggering! ” ‘There are the more reactionary elements in the Royal Family who do look down on her, ” It gives their whole game away, doesn’t it? No amount of cute kids pushed in our faces will make up for their racism.

    • sunny says:

      This comment is excellent! God, it is standard practice to make you the one overreacting to microaggressions. It is why so many people of colour, especially black people have to learn how to moderate our reactions to racism for the comfort of our white colleagues.

      When I started my new job last year, a racist incident happened at our onsite restaurant to me and my only other black colleague and let me tell you how the people who instigated the microaggression got away with it because neither one of us wanted to cause a scene in front of our white colleagues because of the fear of how it would damage our reputations and being seen as aggressive.

      The courtiers and the royal family continue to act terribly. Sigh.

      • TQ says:

        This. Totally agree.

      • Priscila Bezerra-Fischer says:

        Sorry you had to go through this. People of colour know this well and I have the feeling it puzzled Meghan at first. Remember: Meghan is NOT from Compton. She is a California girl that I bet lived among liberal-minded people that valued education, hard work and good intentions. The complete opposite of courtiers.

        These people are not racists- they are the OG racists. They are the OG white. remember that slavery in the ancient world was not racial based. Who invented this? european monarchies.

      • Redgrl says:

        @sunny – well put – re micro aggressions towards people of colour, women, LGBTQ+ etc. Disheartening and sadly not surprising.

      • Emmitt says:

        People from Compton are California girls too, and also value education, hard work and good intentions. Don’t let a Snoop Dog video fool you.

      • Priscila Bezerra-Fischer says:

        @Emmitt – got you. It was making the reference at that infamous hit piece “Meghan is straight out of Compton”

    • S808 says:

      How she didn’t go insane I’ll never understand cause if I were her, we wouldn’t have made it down the aisle. God bless her patience.

    • Otaku fairy says:


    • NatureLover says:

      I think that Lazy Katey is easy to deal with since she does nothing, as the years have shown us. In regards to making Lazy K cry, I find that very hard to swallow. Lazy K is a vindictive, manipulative, cruel and mean. Let’s face it, as soon as the favorite royal Prince became engaged, everyone was snapping away at the both of them, including pictures of H looking lovingly at M. This angered Lazy K to no end. She was no longer the star in the RF and she detested that H&M were stealing her spotlight. Make no mistake about it, Lazy K doesn’t fall too far from the tree!

    • EveV says:

      ‘There are the more reactionary elements in the Royal Family who do look down on her, and she knows it,’ added a Kensington insider. ‘This makes her overreact sometimes — she doesn’t have Kate’s assured way of dealing with people.’

      This doesn’t even make sense. They are admitting that servants looked down upon the duchess, yet Meghan doesn’t have Kate’s way of dealing with people. If a servant EVER had the nerve to look down upon Kate, Kate would go absolutely apoplectic. Also, Kate does not have to deal with racism so in the same breath of them speaking about the racism that Meghan had to deal with, they state that Meghan doesn’t have Kate’s “way” of dealing with people. This ish is like a word salad with half truths, straight lies, and racism all mixed in to one. I LOATHE the Cambridges. I used to just think they were lazy, do-nothing, wastes of space, but they are SO MUCH WORSE.
      I really hope one day it comes out just how much the Lamebridges were behind the media smears of Meghan and Harry.

  6. Rapunzel says:

    Um… if Kate’s staff is used to “incandescent with rage” Willyboy, I most certainly don’t see them getting bent outta shape over Meg yelling. But maybe they had “white” the good reasons to.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      What I do not get is this: When would Meghan be in a position to “yell” at Kate’s staff?

      When the author is talking about “staff” are they referring to Personal Staff say a dresser, Domestic Staff say the head housekeeper or Professional Staff, say some PR or communications person?

      • ADS says:

        “When would Meghan be in a position to “yell” at Kate’s staff?”

        Excellent question. I reckon Wills would often send his staff to snoop on the Sussexes in order to find out what they were working on and/or to try to get dirt on them. Perhaps the member of staff was where they were not meant to be (i.e. within Harry and Meghan’s private residence) and when unexpectedly caught and confronted by Meghan, had no reasonable explanation for their presence. Upon being given a completely justified dressing down, they returned to their master and reported what had occurred. Kate was then dispatched (because when all is said and done, Wills is actually a bit of a chicken shit) to tell Meghan that the future king’s staff have every right to go anywhere they wish in KP as they work under the auspices of the future king and that Meghan has to accept this. Meghan was not having it and neither was Harry and so they moved to Frogmore.

        How do I know this? Well if people are going to start asking for proof I will simply say I have my sources. And if people want to push me on that, I will say that I will reveal mine just as soon as Mr Quinn reveals his.

  7. Aang says:

    Can’t it all be true? Will and Kate are lazy and jealous. The press and courtiers are racist. And Megan is difficult. None of those things seem to be unbelievable to me. Was Megan bullied with racist intent? Yes. Does that mean she has or can have no character flaws? No.

    • Ali says:

      The problem with characterizing someone as difficult there has to be evidence.

      Imagine living 36 years with everyone saying nothing but positive things. Imagine working for years with the UN and on a tv show and people saying nothing but positive things about you. Imagine living in a city and all your neighbour’s say nothing but positive and about you.

      Then all of a sudden people are bitching about you. It logically doesnt make sense.

    • Hoopjumper says:

      This doesn’t read credibly though. If she had yelled at a staffer for no good reason, they would have thrown in the particulars. They would love a headline like, “Meghan mad tea is bad” or whatever. I think either this is totally made up, or the staffer did something sh!tty, and deserved her irritation (don’t believe she yelled, either.)

      • Otaku fairy says:

        That’s what I thought too. What did she “yell” about? What were her exact words? She’s human, so she’s got to have flaws and there have to have been times where she didn’t come across perfectly, but the way this was written is highly questionable, to say the least.

      • Couch potato says:

        It wouldn’t surprise me if this is a case where a staff member deliberately dragged their feet in doing something for her. Probably something she could do a 100 times faster herself, but “protocol” dictated it should be done by the staff, or a certain staff member. And Meghan got a annoyed, and let it show.

    • Hmmt says:

      @Aang. I’m with you. I believe in the adage “where there’s smoke there’s fire”. There’s been ALOT OF SMOKE, of which much seems to turn out true. I’m sure they’re all disasters. Celebrities: just like us!

      • S808 says:

        It’s interesting that there’s so much smoke now from “insiders” on the royal (who aren’t biased at ALL *eye roll*) scene when there wasn’t any from anyone Meghan was worked during her years of acting and charity work. Very interesting.

      • Nahema says:

        I agree, there’s shadiness and smoke on both sides. Of course people only had good things to say about Meghan before. She was a minor celeb, so not much was said at all and in typical Hollywood fashion, most of it was sugary. You rarely hear bad things about celebs, especially minor ones unless they’re a) terrible, b) illegal or c) from an ex with an agenda.

      • Ginger says:

        From co stars to wardrobe people and also people that did her hair and makeup ( from Suits to now) ALL of said what a kind person she is. Andrew Morton and Piers Morgan have put ads in the paper in LA to try and dig up dirt on her and no one bit. She may not be as bad as they need her to be. She may be a kind person. I choose to believe them over tabloids and racist courtiers from KP.

      • MJM says:

        Yep and the assholes smearing Meghan are betting on you to believe that old adage and apply it instantly without analysis or context.

      • Olenna says:

        SMH, you said, “ALOT OF SMOKE, of which much seems to turn out true”. Just like this shady book we’re discussing, you forgot to add the details about her “true” negative behavior.

      • Your cousin Vinny says:

        @aang, I agree. it’s possible all things could be true-ish. The racism and people looking down on her are indisputable but it’s also possible Meghan can have her moments just like anyone else. Meghan’s former agent and her friend both went on the record saying that she sometimes had diva tendencies so I don’t agree with the other posters who feel this is completely out of the realm of possibility.

        That said, unfortunately Meghan was always going to be viewed as an “outsider” in the palace and she was always going to be judged and held to a higher standard than anyone else. So we will never really know for sure if there was imperviousness or simple requests and normal human behaviour.

        Also, there was some definite shade towards Kate with the “it hasn’t gone to her head – at least not too much” comment.

        I’m starting to think that Kate came in feeling self-conscious of her “middle class status” and was insecure and scared of the staff where as Meghan came in with more confidence and optimism.

        No doubt both women were looked down on by the courtiers, but I get the impression that Meghan stood up to it more than Kate.

      • Redgrl says:

        @ginger & @s808 – yes I don’t remember ever reading anything from her former staff or colleagues that ever said she was rude or unprofessional…

      • notasugarhere says:

        Never a bad word about Meghan’s behavior from all her years as an actress, in a town known for tracking that info. Yeah, this is all BS.

      • FashionMaven says:

        The whole “if there’s smoke, there is fire” is a LIE when you’re dealing with propaganda. In propaganda, you repeat the lie so often people just accept it as truth because they believe “the law” would prevent a lie being repeated so often.

        This is also why it’s so hard to combat propaganda – you typically have to bring up the lie in order to combat it, which just reinforces the lie. And then there is the confirmation bias of many people who are predisposed to believe the lie because it confirms their own bias.

        The only way to fight propaganda is to disrupt the lie with questions, and then repeat the counter narrative more than the original propaganda.

    • Elizabeth says:

      Aang, the British tabloids aren’t known for truth. This is nasty puerile gossip. They’re known for unsubstantiated sensationalism and for criminal acts (such as stealing private conversations). They’ve lost court cases over the latter, it’s an established fact. Please don’t look for truth or reality in the tabloids.

      Kate has an “assured way of dealing with people”? You think that’s true??? Does that sound like her?

      If Meghan was someone who yelled at employees, we would see that in her general character. Idk but that doesn’t seem to fit.

      Anyone can make an accusation. You have to look at it critically.

    • Ela says:

      But to me, which is the bigger crime? Racist bullying or being difficult?
      Yes, i think detecting racist BS being thrown in your direction, will make anyone difficult.

      • Otaku fairy says:

        “But to me, which is the bigger crime? Racist bullying or being difficult?” So much this.

    • Nic919 says:

      Meghan has a past history of actually working and most of the people she worked with on Suits and other productions had positive things to say about her. That suggests that it is very unlikely that she was difficult for no reason. Besides weren’t we hearing that her sending emails in the morning was being “difficult”?

      • Tessa says:

        Kate never really had any full time work. She had a very very flexible job at Jigsaw and could come and go as she pleased and it was part time. Employees saw little of her and she quit after about a year or less. Then she was tucked away with her parents and reportedly “working” at Party Pieces.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ NC919

        Sending emails in the morning and having far too many work-related thoughts and ideas……that MUST have been baffling and intimidating.

        After all, when you’re used to spending 8 years coming up with 5 inane questions, working with Meghan must have seemed like the onslaught of working with 100 irate Anna Wintours.

    • June says:

      @Aang, yeah agree. Why can’t it all be true/tru-ish? Of course when someone non-white is described as “difficult” by possibly-racist people, one must take it with a pinch of salt. And there must be context (that is often only afforded to white peeps) to whatever difficult behaviour Meghan may have displayed (stress from wedding planning, her awful family, the racial overtones she might have felt in interactions with courtiers, etc. etc.). Maybe she showed some diva behaviour, who knows, she doesn’t need to be a saint for us to abhor the racist treatment she got/gets.
      I want the real tea though. What horrid thing did she say to make Kate cry? Did she profess her hate of buttons? Did she fling a tiara at an underling and demand a bigger, better one??

      • lizzieb says:

        @June. Tend to agree. While Meghan seems largely lovely she may well have spoken tersely to someone (probably well deserved). In Toronto there were stories of her using the “don’t you know who I am” response when she was with Cory. So as she is human it is very possible she gave someone a dressing down. Am inclined to think it was deserved as she seems pretty fair. The racism and smear imho is that this was met with white person tears and blown out of proportion. A deserved talking to became Meghan yelling at someone. And the smear campaign ramped up. The Kensington staff who didn’t work for Meghan and Harry sound like a petty unprofessional crew.

      • Tessa says:

        I doubt Meghan gave anybody a dressing down. She was new to the family for one thing. And I am wondering how and why Kate was allegedly seeing this. Did she spy on Meghan?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Not one bad word about her from her 15 years in a cutthroat business. This is all BS, once again they’re trying to put Kate’s bad behavior towards staff on Meghan.

    • bettyrose says:

      Even without knowing much about Meghan personally, it doesn’t read as credible because she’s self-made. She got where she is by hard work and skillful networking (and being blessed with stunning looks), which doesn’t sound like someone who barges into a new environment as an entitled diva. Especially since she was clearly busy from the word go building networks in London to pursue her charity work. When did she have time to bully the KP staff?

      • NatureLover says:

        Wasn’t there an article when H&M were leaving TheFirm that they took their entire staff out to a lovely restaurant to thank the staff and say goodbye? If I remember correctly, there were no ill words spoken towards either of them and apparently the staff had a lovely time and appreciated the kind gesture. I also think it’s one of TQ’s favorite spots to dine.

    • Devon says:

      There is scores of evidence that W&K are lazy assholes and the courtiers are racist. There is no evidence that Meghan is difficult outside of these anonymous royal smears. She worked in Hollywood for years with zero complaints of her being difficult. In fact, people went out of their way to say the opposite that she was incredibly kind.

  8. Eleonor says:

    For what is my understanding: it is possible there is some cultural clash here.
    I doubt Meghan yelled at someone, and I believe she politely asked or talked only in a way that for them was “rude” (probably the same way I would ask) because it was different from their freaking protocols and nobody has a bit of common sense to try to understand something outside the protocol. And now they are upset and make drama about it.

    • paddyjr says:

      @Eleomor, I think you are right. Once, when I was living in London (I’m American), I was having lunch at restaurant with a friend who was Israeli. When the waitress asked if everything was okay, I smiled and mentioned something that was not up to par while my friend was a bit more direct and critical. The waitress apologized but within a few minutes was complaining about us to her co-workers (whispering loudly and gesturing).

      • Nahema says:

        I don’t think that what you’ve described is wrong at all and I don’t think any British person would find that rude. I’ve worked in restaurants and had plenty of customers complain about something, so it’s not complaining that’s an issue. Our chef would hate it because he though he was perfect. Maybe you just encountered a bad waitress.

        I do think that Americans have a different way of talking compared to Brits, which can unintentionally come across as rude to a sensitive snowflake Brit who is perhaps offended by everything (not all of us are like that).

        Brits say please and thank you all the time, tend to be overly grateful and apologise, even if it’s not their fault. If I need to squeeze past someone in a narrow space in a clothes shop, I say ‘sorry, excuse me, thank you’. An American would probably do just fine with ‘excuse me’. To a Brit, that could come across as abrupt and stand offish. When ordering something, I’d say ‘please could I have a coffee’. I noticed living in America, people almost demand rather than ask, saying ‘I’ll have a coffee’. It’s not rude, just a different culture.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ Nahema

        Some excellent points there.

      • lizzieb says:

        Great comments. Definitely believe the cultural difference aspect. Still believe there were some petty people who ramped that even further as they may not have felt they should be listening to Meghan for other reasons.

      • bettyrose says:

        OMG, I’ve spent a lot of time in Israel, and even as a fairly loud American, there are times the mannerisms there leave my doubting my own backbone. I can see how that scenario would’ve been rife with cultural misunderstandings.

      • Mary says:

        @Nahema, haha, squeezing past someone in an aisle, I usually just yell “to the right”!

    • Mich says:

      I absolutely think culture clash was a factor (along with racism, classism, and a healthy dose of xenophobia).

      I worked with a bunch of Brits when I lived overseas and we speak differently. It took me a long time to learn that what is unsaid in Brit speak can be as important as what is said. A lot of reading between the lines is required. Americans don’t speak that way and it was incredibly frustrating when my Brit compatriots would misinterpret things I said. I said what I said, there was no need or purpose in trying to read between the lines for some hidden meaning. We also tend to speak with more confidence and some people can find that abrasive.

      • bettyrose says:

        Question for the Brits, is there a regional difference, as well? During an overseas job, I made good friends with a woman from Manchester, who was one of the loudest, most direct people I’ve ever known.

      • Sara says:

        Re: Culture clash: I’m American and I studied for a semester in the U.K. in college which included an internship. For the internship, I had to go through training to help me acclimate to British work culture. That was a long time ago, but I remember being told not to say “It’s no problem!” when thanked for doing something. Because that would infer that the person asking me to perform the task was a problem. It’s a saying in the U.S. that no one thinks about or reads between the lines. It just means it was a pleasure to do it. Anywho, the fact that I had to go through a day of training before I started interning meant that yes, there is a difference in culture.

      • Nahema says:

        I keep hearing on here, Americans saying things about ‘reading between the lines’ with Brits rather than Americans but as a Brit, I don’t think that’s true at all. @Sara, Brits say ‘no problem’ too. I say it a lot. Nobody then reads into it and thinks does this mean I’m actually being a problem? Americans are certainly more direct but Brits aren’t giving some sort of coded messages. They just fill out their requests with ‘please, thank you and sorry’ much more.

        The way I look at it is that Brits have it drilled into them that they have to be overly polite and apologetic. Even if you are the employer, asking your employee to carry out a task, you’d say ‘please can you get this done today’. It feels respectful and helps everyone feel as though they’re still on the same level, even though they’re clearly not and the class divide is much more apparent here.

    • S808 says:

      I suspect this is what happened. Her shouting at someone is unrealistic. I don’t think she’s the type of person who needs to shout to get their point across— about anything.

      • Becks1 says:

        I don’t think she’s a shouter either. I can see her being very assertive and direct, and maybe a staffer didn’t like that. I can also see a staffer being ticked if Meghan was like, “so what would you say you do around here….”

      • ABritGuest says:

        That’s a good point. British people don’t tend to be very direct & are usually quite self depreciating (see love for Bridget Jones, early Hugh Grant movies) so someone who is direct (as people from say Jamaica can be) & self assured, can be regarded as intimidating. I know friends from abroad who have struggled with this in the workplace.

    • Nic919 says:

      I suspect that her being “difficult” in their minds is just being direct in what they want and the archaic courtiers are not used to that.

    • emmy says:

      She absolutely does not seem like someone who would yell. But yeah, the Brits have a lot of phrases that mean pretty much the opposite (and often in a negative way) of what they’re actually saying. If you don’t know, you’ll offend someone without meaning to. I hated that when I lived there. Just say what you mean. LOL And god knows what kind of codes these people use behind palace walls, you’d probably need a dictionary.

      Btw, Kate doesn’t fare too well here either. So she mostly didn’t let it get to her head? But a little? The commoner got used to a life of royalty. And when did she marry Charles? She is not married to the next king.

    • betsyh says:

      I too agree with culture clash causing problems. It was reported that Meg bombarded staff with texts, which does not seem outrageous to me in a boss to employee relationship.

      However, it seems that the staff appear to consider themselves the bosses.

      According to an old Sun article, “Meghan has very high standards and is used to working in a Hollywood environment. However, there’s a different degree of respect in the royal household and Kate has always been very careful about how she has acted around staff.”

      Meaning, Kate may have been a little afraid of the staff and relied on them telling her what to do, while Meghan did not kiss their butts.

      • MrsBump says:

        Maybe there in lies the problem. It wasn’t really an employee boss situation. She didn’t hire them, nor was she paying their salaries. She was the wife to be of the boss’s son. The boss being Charles.
        So i can see some feathers being ruffled and them expecting her to know her place, not just because of racism or xenophobia (im sure there was plenty of both) but simply because this is an organisation that values tradition and hierarchy. We may argue till the cows come home about the need for modernity etc but it is irrelevant since the very nature of monarchy is to preserve tradition. I feel like Meghan was well meaning and wanted to make her mark but ultimately didn’t fully realise what she was up against. In the end the courtiers won, like they always do.

  9. Lisa says:

    Lord and they wonder why Harry and Neghan are done.

  10. Starryfish says:

    I see we’ve returned to the angry black lady well again.

  11. minx says:

    Well, those excerpts weren’t too biased or anything 🙄.

    • MA says:

      @Minx I would actually be inclined to believe some of this stuff if they weren’t so laughably heavy handed and one sided.

  12. BAddie says:

    All of these leeks and stories every other hour about how bad someone is without actual proof is not a good look! Get you s@!t together RF and move on!

  13. Taylor says:

    This is so ugly. I am so so sick of the perfect Kate, mean Meghan angle. How are they not? And how is it that after a career in an industry full of divas, Meghan was not once described as one until entering this god awful family?
    Further, how dare people be mad about the Sussexes maybe supporting a book written about them when these are some of the only narratives out there about her? The lengths they’ve gone to defame her are astounding. They really hate her.

  14. Aria says:

    Lol we saw Kate and sophie nasty behaviour in commonwealth in public , how they will be with their staff in private but sure Meghan is the problem. Meghan works in Hollywood if she treats her assistant like nasty like they said in this article it will be surely come out . But this piece come out before Sussex book says a lot that kp is doing damage control by writing fanfiction and public will be sympathetic towards Kate and her staff . These constant nasty and toxic behaviour will further makes Sussex wont come even with Charles reign.

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      I feel like the RF and supporters are quite nervous about the upcoming book; this timing is suspicious. If there is one spec of a lie, she should sue.

    • Harla says:

      I don’t think the Sussex’s planned on coming back for Charles’ reign anyhow because next up will be William and they certainly don’t want to be there for that!

    • HK9 says:

      @Aria-Yes! Kate & Sophie’s behaviour towards her during the commonwealth service in public will long be remembered. And if people forget all they’ll have to do is google it, and they’re worried about Megan ‘allegedly’ yelling at someone??!!?? It’s incredible…..

      • Tessa says:

        I hope Edward had some words with his wife later. He was polite and spoke to Harry and Meghan.

      • Tessa says:

        I hope Edward had some words with his wife later. He was polite and spoke to Harry and Meghan.

      • Lady D says:

        Ed doesn’t strike me as someone with the backbone required to lay down the law as it were.

      • Melissa says:

        Ugh at the implication that Edward needs to “have a word” or “lay down the law.”

        If I’m a bitch to someone, I have to own it and the consequences. The consequences for my poor husband if he tried to regulate my behavior though…

      • Redgrl says:

        @hk9 – I was very disappointed in Sophie and how she behaved. Kate showed her true colours which was totally unprofessional but not surprising. But I expected more from Sophie.

      • Tessa says:

        Well maybe if Edward did not call her out on the rudeness, the queen sure should have. Rudeness is nasty and it would have been good if someone told her she was not being nice. Sophie of all people should have been sympathetic, she was trashed by the media for her confessions to the fake sheik.

    • bettyrose says:

      IKR? I don’t believe for one second that Kate isn’t demanding and entitled with staff, but I guess she uses the accepted aristocratic approach to doing so.

      • Tessa says:

        I think those who come from “new money” tend to get very snobbish. I think Kate and her family have this attitude.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The housekeeper leaving after only five months is a hint as to Kate’s negative behavior. Another housekeeper left and had her friends go to the press about how incredibly overworked she was, they called her all hours, etc.

  15. Rapunzel says:

    Oooohh… tin foil tiara theory: I’ll bet if Meg yelled at a staff member of Kate’s, it was over Will and Kate using staff to leak to the press. I’ll bet Meg called one of them out on it. Or, one of them acted disrespectfully, or Meg got mad at Kate’s staffer over some petty move of Kate’s. This would explain why there’s no details as to what the yelling was about.

    Honestly, I’ve been thinking about a lot of the rumors, like, “Meg made Kate cry at Charlotte’s dress fitting” and I suspect a lot of these vague, negative Meg stories are hiding the details cause the details make the Cambs look bad.

    The dress fitting for example: I’ll bet Kate started trying to tell Meg what Charlotte should wear, and Meg was like, “nope.” And Kate was all fragile, never-heard-no, white woman tears.

    • Hoopjumper says:

      Strong agree, Rapunzel. On all counts.

    • Tessa says:

      Ironically, Kate wore a rather hideous outfit at Pippa’s wedding.

    • Nic919 says:

      I have read elsewhere that the crying was because Charlotte was acting up at the fitting and there was a limited time for the dress fittings. Kate got upset at being told to manage her child.

      No idea if this is accurate but it could be a possibility.

      • Tessa says:

        I think Kate crying was diva behavior. she probably worked up tears and ran to William and complained about “mean” Meghan. Too bad Meghan could not have just hired a bridal planner and let her deal with Kate.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Nic919- I can see that being true. Kate may not have even been told to manage the child, but simply cried because she was struggling with her (then) 3 yr. old. Nanny Maria not being around might have led to a meltdown. And the story was twisted.

      • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

        Although there’s ample proof of Kate’s “mean girl” antics, with this “Meghan made Kate cry”… let’s not forget, during almost all the fittings, it was more likely Maria brought Char as Kate was *just about* to give birth to Louie. Kate was about 4 wks postpartum at the wedding, and I can believe her hormones were all over the place, causing her to take offense at something that wasn’t offensive, or “hear” something in a way it wasn’t meant to be.

        I also could believe that Meghan could’ve snapped at Kate, Char, Maria… with all the pressure she was under, with the wedding coming up, and esp. all the absolute shit her father and Psycho Sam were throwing out to the press… yeah…I can believe Meghan was under extreme pressure and had a major case of nerves.

      • Tessa says:

        no matter what, Kate should have spoken out and denied the rumors. Especially if she cried being postpartum and it had nothing to do with Meghan.

      • wisdomheaven says:

        If a child in my wedding party was acting foolish during a dress fitting, I would absolutely tell their mother to get them under control. But I do not in any way believe Meghan was mean *to* Charlotte. I think any ire she may or may not have had in that dumb story was directed toward Kate. Maybe Kate took it the wrong way because she was hormonal/post-natal. As it is, this whole story always pissed me off. It’s my wedding and I am dealing with the world’s press and my crazy family, and another woman has the audacity to cry?

        Some one said this above, but all these stories are always soo vague about Meghan and could easily be read a different way with context. Harry’s “what meghan wants, Meghan gets” in context could have been said in a joking way about a bride wanting the her perfect wedding. OR it could be that he was pissed that staff was disrespecting his wife and undermining her by maybe coming to him to second guess directives from Meghan. It also wouldn’t shock me by this point if Harry himself was able to pick up on the racist undertones to Meghan’s treatment from staff.

      • Tessa says:

        Jobson said Harry said what Meghan wants Meghan gets. This was in his book about Charles and the excerpts in the DM. No evidence he said it and it’s unfortunate that it’s “credited” to Harry.

      • Melissa says:

        Or it never happened. Why do we take garbage from the DM as factual when it suits?

        I doubt these two had much contact at all during the run up to the wedding.

      • Amelie says:

        As a reminder Kate had just given birth to Louis weeks before the wedding, he was born April 23rd, 2018 and the wedding was May 19th, 2018. So at the fittings, Louis was probably there with her or if he wasn’t, she was most likely sleep deprived and tired dealing with a newborn and emotional. So I could see her being extra sensitive at being told to manage Charlotte or taking it personally if Meghan disagreed with her about something involving the dress fittings.

      • Ginger says:

        @Nic919. I heard Kate wasn’t there but it was the nanny. No tears were shed by her either.

      • Nic919 says:

        I think the important part here is that certain stories like botox and extensions get shut down by KP whereas the making Kate cry story was not. It says a lot about the people at KP about what their priorities are.

        We all saw the bitch face Kate pulled on video at the Commonwealth day service and that confirmed all the passive aggressive bs we suspected in the years prior to then.

    • Redgrl says:

      @rapunzel – hmmm you may be on to something…(re the being upset about the leaking comment above)

    • Shoshone says:

      If Kate actually cried at Charlotte’s dress fitting I’ll bet that it had more to do with Kate struggling with events in her own life (i.e. the recent birth of her son and issues with William and his activities).

      • Tessa says:

        If Kate knew that then she should have not sat back and said nothing. Her silence helped keep the rumor out there. She should have spoken up.

  16. Ali says:

    “Meghan inevitably had to accept that, although she is a duchess, she is not married to the next king. I think she has found that difficult to deal with. ”

    This makes NO sense. Anyone with two brain cells knows Harry is not going to be king.

    I must not be the audience for this stupidity.

  17. JJ McClay says:

    Oh my god. These people! They may as well have called her ‘uppity’. How can anyone read this tripe and believe it?

    I feel so sorry for Meaghan. My blood boils reading this tripe, I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be having these kinds of unfair, untrue and racist smears written about you all the freaking time.

    No wonder they left!

    I love the bit where the author openly admits that some of the royals are racist, but Meaghan should have dealt with it better. LMAO.

    Also, if this is how people who *LIKE* Will and Kate talk about them (incandescent with rage, treating servants well “for the most part”, etc) they must be real pieces of work…

    • Rapunzel says:

      “Also, if this is how people who *LIKE* Will and Kate talk about them (incandescent with rage, treating servants well “for the most part”, etc) they must be real pieces of work…”

      Absolutely this. “Kate is actually one of the nicest royals, and she hasn’t let life in her extremely grand apartment at Kensington go to her head — or at least not too much,” – my word, such a backhanded compliment. She’s only a little egotistical.

      And of course it’s not too much until it’s the uppity angry black woman. We know what they really mean.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yup – I was saying the other day about some of these stories – they try so hard to make Kate look good that she ends up looking bad. She’s relatively nice to her staff, at least compared to the other royals (how do THEY treat their staff???) she’s not really that egotistical, even though she lives in a really nice taxpayer funded house. etc.

      • June says:

        @Becks1, I think they are not *really* trying to make Kate look good – that’s shade. They are just using her to hit at Meghan.

  18. MellyMel says:

    Oh no, the “angry black woman” yelled at my staff! Give me a break. And they wonder why Meghan & Harry got the hell out!

  19. Silas says:

    The devil is in the details.

    What was Meghan told no about?

    What was the shouting (if it happened) about?
    (Btw, Kate saying that the staffer worked for her not Meghan was one of the few things KP denied at the time)

    Also, have you ever seen someone keep needling another person and then act shocked if the other person shows any kind of negative reaction? And when there is no reaction, the person being bullied is derided as stupid.

    But where is the objectivity? Why is there inherent sympathy and acceptance for racism, xenophobia and dysfunction every time from these writers?

    And if you go back to 2011, Kate was scared of the staff and used William and Carole to fight her battles. All the angry stories from then were about William’s rage and Carole’s bossiness.

    Where is the basic research and context?

    And if the Cambridges don’t denounce this book, they are endorsing it. If we get no stories of their disapproval, it’s the budget plane stunt all over again. The coddling of the Cambridges by the media has been ridiculous from day 1 and I wish someone would write a real biography.

  20. Digital Unicorn says:

    This is a stitch up job by a hack trying to a) make a name for himself and b) sucking up to the Cambridges by trying to pain them as white victims.

  21. Ruby_Woo says:

    This just makes no sense.

    Meghan refused to live in Kensington Palace after an expensive renovation, but she was also miserable in Windsor because it wasn’t palatial like Kensington Palace?

    And Windsor is NOT the Russian Steppes! It’s a quiet small place, which is ideal for privacy/ space, but it’s literally about 30min-1hr on the train, and they would be using private cars so could nip in to London very easily. Hell, others use helicopters to travel to different UK cities.

    If this book states that Meghan shouted at staff and it’s not true, she has every right to sue. The reasoning that she’s mean to servants because she’s not ‘used to servants’ is so gross. This constant messaging that the upper classes are somehow better behaved and know how to treat the plebs ‘better’.

    But one thing I am very certain is true is that the servants called her names behind her back. That ‘me-gain’ name just seems to specific.

    I’m surprised that they would even dare to mention that other RF members looked down on her. That’s the information I’m interested in.

    • SomeChick says:

      Anyone with eyes can see that RF members – and staff – looked down on her.

      They’re only saying that to make the nonsense they are pushing seem “balanced” or realistic.

      They are tying themselves into knots to smear her for not being a white brit snob.

      She’s probably *nice* to servants because she’s not used to servants. Remember the shock and dismay when she closed the car door after herself?!

      The Daily Fail is not news. It is editorial (aka opinion) and fanfic.

      • Calibration says:

        Lots of people believe the Fail, even smart people. I find it appalling. And the cambs have tons of stans who will believe it.

      • Ruby_Woo says:

        Jesus! The car door story! I forgot about that… the BBC literally had an article about it on their website!

      • SomeChick says:

        I think she’s smarter than the lot of them combined, on their smartest days.

        I also think that wearing hose with beige (aka “nude”) shoes to that last event was absolutely shade. (Well done, and totally fair game, don’t get me wrong.)

        No wonder they’re all bovvered.

      • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

        Wasn’t there just a story out recently, an interview with Anne, the super snob, who said something very snide about Meghan? Can’t remember the specifics….I think it was the article in VF where they used the old pic of her on the cover?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @(TheOG) jan90067 – It does not say who the remark was directed towards but the consensus on CB was that Anne was actually referring to The Cambridges.

      • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

        Thank you, BTB 😊

    • Oddsnends says:

      I remember seeing the “Me-gain” slander on royaldish before they were married. To me, that means these authors are using trolls as inside sources for their hatchet job.

      • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

        OMG that cesspool of racism and xenophobia? I forgot all about that place! Is that STILL up and running??

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I do not buy this shit about “refused to live in Kensington Palace after an expensive renovation”. I read somewhere else that one the reasons Harry & Meghan move to Frogmore Cottage was that renovations could begin immediately and be complete before Archie’s birth.

      IIRC in the article I read, the D&D of Gloucester did not move out of their Kensington apartment until after Meghan & Harry were married. The renovations on the Gloucester apartment would have taken at least 18 months. The apartment could not be ready for move-in until after Archie’s birth. I may be wrong but I will swear that I read this scenario somewhere reliable.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Bay, I think that’s right. The apartment would not have been ready before Archie’s birth.

      • Tessa says:

        Didn’t William and Kate do that? The Queen renovated apartments for William and Kate and he up and said he was not ready for royal duties and persuaded his grandmother to let him play normal as a co pilot.

      • Ruby_Woo says:

        I just assumed they moved out to stop the leaks. And to be honest, having to deal with staff that calls you names, why would they want to stay?

        And that dig about an empty apartment at the taxpayers expense. Well, maybe the Royals should rely on their private wealth instead of using public funding? That’s a thought!

      • Mary says:

        The stories about where they were moving to were all over the map…Curiously, when talk shifted from Apt. 1 to the Dolphin cottage (the already renovated one with the sea-themed bdm), one paper said that it was W&K that decided that they wanted to use the adjoining Apt 1 for events. That, essentially, H&M were ready to move to Apt 1 but that it was nixed by W&K. It was said that Meghan viewed the Dolphin cottage and loved it but then the next thing we heard was that they would be moving into Frogmore cottage. I really hope the truth in their quest to find a home comes out because I think it would show that they were totally yanked around.

      • Sunday says:

        You’re exactly right, BayTampaBay – the Sussexes themselves detailed on their website their reasoning for choosing Frogmore Cottage over renovating an apartment in Kensington Palace. As found on the Q&A on the Funding page of SussexRoyal.com, they explain that:

        “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex chose to move to Windsor for various reasons. Their previous residence of Nottingham Cottage on the grounds of Kensington Palace could not accommodate their growing family. The option of Apartment 1 in Kensington Palace was estimated to cost in excess of £4 million for mandated renovations including the removal of asbestos (see details above on the Monarchy’s responsibility for this upkeep). This residence would not have been available for them to occupy until the fourth quarter of 2020. As a result, Her Majesty The Queen offered The Duke and Duchess the use of Frogmore Cottage, which was already undergoing mandated renovations, and would be available to move in before the birth of their son. The refurbishment cost equated to 50 percent of the originally suggested property for their proposed official residence at Kensington Palace. It is for these reasons, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex chose Frogmore Cottage as their Official Residence.”

      • Sunday says:

        This “Meghan yelled at staff” story (along with the Meghan made Kate cry story) has been reported so many times that I do think there must be some “there” there, but I think that like every other leak about H&M, it’s been twisted like a fun house mirror reflection of the truth. Ok, so maybe Meghan spoke strongly to someone, and (on a different occasion) maybe Kate burst into tears. The important questions here are: 1. WHY? – what were the immediate circumstances surrounding these two very vague but damaging accusations? And 2. If these two instances show how Meghan is a monster and Kate is just an innocent delicate flower, then, why haven’t we gotten any of the actual details? Surely if these really happened as KP leakers have reported then the details could only help to paint Kate in an even more sympathetic light and more plainly reveal Meghan’s “true” self. Therefore, I think it’s very likely that the staff member did or said something that a moral, ethical person like Meghan would HAVE to say something about. Whether you’re the Future Future Keen Queen or a real housewife on Bravo, the playbook is the same – if something would make you look too blatantly bad to say yourself, you don’t say it at all… you make your staff/sidekick/lackey do it. As savvy as Meghan is, she would’ve seen through a staff comment like that in a second and know that if the staff is comfortable saying or doing something it’s because KP at best allows it and as worst encourages it. Same with making Kate cry – the weaponization of white women’s tears could be a dissertation topic, so to me the fact that Kate cried means zip compared with what the actual circumstances were. Overall, if Meghan has been a difficult diva for years then the British press ABSOLUTELY would’ve reported on any possible scrap they could drum up, in gory detail.

      • Bucky says:

        I would refuse to be neighbors with my in-laws, so that seems credible to me. Its like Everybody Loves Raymond over there, except with accused pedophiles and lots of infidelity. Hard pass.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Gloucesters didn’t move out until late last year. Frogmore Cottage was definitely a faster choice.

      • songbirds_thrive says:

        @Ruby Woo said, questioning a quote from the Fail:
        “… Meghan refused to live in Kensington Palace after an expensive renovation, but she was also miserable in Windsor because it wasn’t palatial like Kensington Palace?”

        Thanks @Sunday, and @BTB upthread for pointing out that Harry & Meghan already told us the details about why they moved to Frogmore Cottage. There are so many lies and mistruths circulating, the reality has been obscured.

        To reiterate, the Gloucesters were in the process of moving out of Apartment 1, which their family and the current Duke’s parents before them had occupied for years. Many extensive renovations were required and would not be completed soon enough. Plus, I seriously doubt M&H wanted to remain living at KP in the first place. In fact, they preferred living in the country, which is why they had rented a property in the Cotswolds at Great Tew Estates. When someone leaked the whereabouts to the media, their privacy and security were blown and they gave up the rental.

        Another thing to point out @BTB, the renovation of Frogmore Cottage was already under way as part of Crown Estate property updates. That’s why it was expected to be ready for move-in before Meghan gave birth. The location also provided security, and Windsor Great Park was an area which M&H had greatly enjoyed during their courtship.

        The Sussexes later may have felt a sense of isolation and of being boxed-in largely due to what was going on around them, i.e., the leaking; the gaslighting; the relentless tabloid abuse; M&H not knowing who they could trust among any palace staffers; even the Windsor Great Park residential group ended up creating a story via genuine concern or else a prank that made it to the papers claiming M&H had a set of rules for their Windsor neighbors. That was patently untrue of course.

        Can you imagine all of this going on while Meghan was pregnant as an older, first time mother! Also, for the Sussexes as a thirty-something, recently married couple, this should have been the happiest time of their lives! Simply horrid and unbelievable what they were dealing with, amidst a lack of support from Harry’s family, and involvement in the abuse by certain relatives ON BOTH SIDES.

        Maybe it’s a cheesy reflection, but thank God, the power of M&H’s love has seen them through, and their loving bond is apparently growing stronger.

  22. Heather says:

    Any royal stories that originate from the DM = stories I will not read.
    The DM writes racist drivel with no basis in fact. Nothing but evil click-bait.

    • June says:

      @Heather, you are correct. But most of the stories on this site link to the DM…

      • notasugarhere says:

        Which Kaiser excerpts and mocks so we don’t give the Fail any clicks.

      • June says:

        @nota, yeah but which makes this part of that same ecosystem (including us I know), so I don’t see the point of the superiority. And plenty of people here talk about what they have read in the DM, so I don’t think everyone is abstaining.

  23. Case says:

    It speaks volumes of Meghan’s character that due to everything I’ve personally seen of her, I don’t believe for a second that she would scream at staff.

    Actually, I still don’t believe she and Kate had any real issues. I think it was always the brothers, but people are still trying to stick with the wife fighting narrative bc that’s what they went with first.

    • songbirds_thrive says:

      Right, I don’t believe ‘the wives’ were fighting. But sadly, Kate obviously felt threatened by Meghan, and there have been indications that Kate did not treat Meghan with much warmth or acceptance. At first, I found it hard to believe that W&K were so petty and insecure, but the pile-up of receipts has been too overwhelming.

      It’s pretty sad that W&K would act this way toward Harry and a partner he’s deeply in love with, after all the camaraderie and third-wheel support Harry gave to them. Harry finally fiinds rare love and happiness, and W&K are bitter about it! SMH

      Lainey Liu of LaineyGossip has also written about a few things that she heard happened involving Kate’s attitude, even when M&H were still dating (Lainey has a professional connection to the Mulroneys btw).

  24. Elizabeth says:

    My feeling about this ‘yelling at staffer’ is that Meghan asked for something to be done, the staffer said that’s not how we do things, and Meghan very politely but firmly responded that it might have been the case in the past, but things were different.

    • Redgrl says:

      This I can see.

    • June says:

      @Elizabeth, makes sense. Maybe she asked someone who felt it wasn’t their job? Some kind of huffiness about being asked (“ordered around”) by the newbie is the vibe I’m getting.

    • Andrea says:

      As a New Yorker who dated Southerners fir years, I hsd one ex state that I was being demanding or too loud, when I was being assertive. It is a cultural thing 100%

  25. Ruby_Woo says:

    “…she doesn’t have Kate’s assured way of dealing with people” Have not actually seen ANY of Meghan’s public engagements? One thing she has no problem with is being ‘assured when dealing with other people’.

    And Kate could be lovely in person, but no one is wowed by her people skills.

    This embiggening struggle is a lot.

  26. HK9 says:

    I’ve given up hope that the RF will clean up their PR game. They keep shooting themselves in the foot and this is more of the same.

  27. paddyjr says:

    Did Kate marry Charles when I wasn’t looking? Cause he’s the “next king.” William probably won’t be king for another 20 years, if at all. I don’t doubt Meghan has her faults and she most likely got cross with someone at some point in her time in the BRF, but look at the public personas and previous press. Meghan comes across as a people person who treats everyone the same and seems super laid back. Kate cosplays Downton Abbey when she isn’t cosplaying Meghan or Diana and kept her hands in front of her crotch at public events for the first 8 or so years of her marriage.

  28. Marigold says:

    Americans in general are “unused to” staff. Servitude makes us incredibly uncomfortable, and I highly doubt that her reaction was “imperiousness.” I doubt that because I was thrown into a situation with domestic help that lived in my home during one of our three foreign posts; this one was in Central America. The house (not ours…the government’s) had a housekeeper who lived on the property and we were also given a driver because of the security protocols.

    I was INCREDIBLY uncomfortable with having “a maid.” She was horrified when we asked her to eat with us at the family table because I could not bear banishing the poor woman to eat meals in the kitchen with us at the dining room table. It’s the 21st century, and most normal people in the developed world know that having a servant is…well, it’s incredibly wrong on so many levels.

    Hired help and domestic help is one thing, but servants? No. There is a distinct difference, and when I was thrown into a world, as an American, where people still keep servants, I was thrown off. I was not “imperious,” but my egalitarian attitudes were foreign to the people around us, and I was definitely considered strange and inappropriate for being so very American about the whole thing.

    I bet you a million bucks that’s all Meghan did. She stepped on somebody’s protocol shoes by treating a servant like an equal, and she did it at normal American conversational volume (which half of Europe likes to call “shouting” when they’re feeling negatively disposed toward an American).

    We say what we mean a lot more frankly than many European cultures, especially the UK. I learned how to speak UKansian–as I called it–by the time we left Europe, but it took time. Thankfully, the people we encountered in Ireland and the UK during our time there were not royal staff members. We were given grace and patience, at least to our faces, while we learned how to fit in. If they’d only done that for Meghan, their second prince would still live on the outskirts of London.

    • Melissa says:

      I got uncomfortable having a butler at a vacation resort for a week – it was just so strange having someone unpack and pop in with snacks, running baths etc. Imagine that on the scale of Royalty and an entire staff running palaces, I can well imagine there was adjustment.

      There is no scenario where I believe she was imperious or rude to staff regardless of how unusual it was in the beginning.

    • June says:

      @Marigold, hmm the questions of “servants” is complex, but servants are also hired domestic help, i.e. they are performing a job, they are not slaves. And for a lot of people (esp. women) with little to no education, it is often the only way of making money. My problem with the whole thing is the unregulated nature of it in most countries that have this system – this makes people open to exploitation. I can understand why it would make you uncomfortable though. I come from “one of these countries” but have lived in the UK for a long time, and have also lived in the US for a few years, so I feel I can see the issue from different angles. There is definitely a class divide between the domestic workers and the employer class that is vast and uncomfortable and immoral, but then all countries have their own social and economic hierarchies, don’t they?

      • Marigold says:

        Of course they do, and this is not an area where Americans are any “better” than anyone else. We have underpaid and exploited workers all over the US. They don’t usually live in our homes, however, and have a convention of standing in the corner while the master of the house eats.

        I could not tolerate that in my own home; it was too uncomfortable for me. This woman lived in my house and did my laundry and scrubbed my floors. We paid her very well and made sure she had holidays (which she also found extraordinary). She had excellent medical coverage, as well. I wanted her to feel like a part of the household…not a piece of its furniture.

        She was an employee, not a lower caste, in my eyes. The stories she told us about her life as a housekeeper would turn your hair snow white. /shudder

        She got used to my desire to treat her as an equal, and I got used to her hard lines in the sand, as well. She didn’t like me in the kitchen or the laundry room as those were “hers,” and I respected that. It was a dance we did together those two years, and I will always appreciate the lessons.

    • Yoyo says:

      That is not true, that Americans are unused to staff.
      Women make a great part of the work force, who is taking care of their children? and if they can afford it, cleaning their homes and cooking their meals.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Hiring domestic help is not the same thing as having a live-in “servant” where part of their salary is “room and board” and their actual take-home wages are lower than the going market rate.

        The scenario I just provided is exactly how the BRF-Firm operates.

      • DarlingDiana says:

        Your point is valid. The BRF and many wealthy people do hire in house staff. They also do include room and board as a benefit much like American health insurance is a benefit at some companies. I don’t think that it changes the fact that Americans are used to staff in some form and certainly not Meghan who was a millionaire on her own.
        Maybe, you are referring to a problem with what is perceived as a class system both in England and the U.S. In regards to staff and those that hire them? I’m unsure.
        Regardless, no one has to accept a job as a live in or non live in staff member. They just dont. There are absolutely instances where they are treated poorly though just as fast food workers, retailers, and others are sometimes treated like second class citizens. I hate that mentality in its entirety.

      • Marigold says:

        That’s the difference I was trying to get at. Employees vs. servants. A job in a service industry rather than servitude. There is a big distinction, and though there are exploited groups in the US, the topic I was addressing was the dig in the article that said Meghan was “imperious” because she was “unused to” having staff…which is total BS. As an actress and a wealthy woman in both the US and Canada, Meghan Markle was very used to having staff. She probably just wasn’t used to having servants.

    • DarlingDiana says:

      The wealthy everywhere have servants. They may call them something else but they do the same type of jobs. A servant that you “keep” is a slave and that is a totally different thing.
      You know where else their are servants and hierarchy besides royal families? Movie and television sets and any corporation. Corporations have CEO’s on down to clerks just like films/tv have producers on down to cleaners.
      There is nothing wrong or belittling about being a maid, cleaner or servant. I’m not suggesting that you said that there is but people are certainly acting like it. There is nothing wrong with employing them either.
      Meghan and Harry have the American equivalent of servants now. They are not cutting their lawn or cleaning their toilets and that is okay for them and the royal family.

      • June says:

        Well said DarlingDiana. Esp. agree with “There is nothing wrong or belittling about being a maid, cleaner or servant.” Yep, although we must acknowledge that there is exploitation of people in these jobs, and that has to do with labour laws or lack of in many places as well as caste, class, race hierarchies – basically it is complex, as I said above. But really don’t like the “As an American, I find this wrong,” kind of view that lacks nuance, although I do understand there is a type of culture shock to it that might create that type of response.

      • DarlingDiana says:

        Exactly, June. I completely agree with both of your posts. It is a complex issue. I don’t think that the issue here is even about having help so much as it is about wage disparity and exploitation.
        A lot of this is down to a negative perception of “serving” another which is ridiculous. Members of the armed forces serve the public, non-profit organizations serve various causes/people, and, by the same token, cleaners and cooks serve employers.
        All of those that serve, like healthcare professionals and grocery stockers/clerks, are having a surge in appreciation that I hope remains post Covid19. People are not more or less worthy based on what capacity that they are serving in.

      • Melissa says:

        We aren’t wealthy but have someone that cleans the house, the pool and takes care of the yard. That is a FAR CRY from living in a Royal palace.

        There is a lot of space between having a personal assistant and having someone that manages your jewels, hats and catalogs your handbags.

      • DarlingDiana says:

        I agree that there is a difference in being royal and living in palaces. I just think there is just a lot of hand wringing over wealthy people, royal or not, having servants, staff, domestic help, whatever it is called. I don’t know why. The BRF have palaces, wealthy CEO’s and entertainers have the equivalent.

      • Marigold says:

        Well, we are not wealthy by any American standard and never have been. Working in the diplomatic corps, however, and working in undeveloped or developing nations, there is a sense of duty for providing employment and being useful in the government missions there. We were attached to that corps for nearly four years, and before that, we were in military service in another foreign post for three years. In that time, we had to adjust culturally to many things of this nature–cultural differences in class-based systems that are enforced or accepted to a degree that they are not openly enforced or accepted in the US.

        There is a difference between a daycare employee being paid an hourly wage or a nanny with a contract and a housekeeper in Central America who lives in a small closet of a room with no hot water and is expected to serve at table and catalogue the linen.

        HUGE difference.

        To accuse Meghan of being imperious or unused to having staff was a dig at the American culture that–in the main–upholds the idea that everyone is to be treated with equal dignity. We don’t practice that perfectly, and the very rich do what they like in every part of the world. Still. It was a dig at the gauche American tendency to believe that commoners can marry princes–even black commoners–and that servants are employees that we can converse with and have relationships with, just like any other person with any other job. It was a dig at Meghan’s Americanness.

    • Bucky says:

      To that point, Meghan came in with a staff of servants and a very LA dynamic with them. They’re often referred to as her “best friends.” Treating someone on your staff as an equal rather than addressing them with royal pretense could seem aggressive, the same way it might seem cruel to be so distanced from staff if you’re the best friend type and you see someone with strict boundaries and protocol. There’s a middle ground that most normal people use, but the royal family is at one extreme and the entertainment industry is at the other, of course. Kind of cheap shots to take at each other.

      • DarlingDiana says:

        No doubt Meghan, both as an entertainer and an American, dealt with many things/people differently than her English counterparts either royal or not. Cultural differences.

      • Marigold says:

        Exactly, Bucky. That was exactly what I was trying to say.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Staff not servants.

  29. Becks1 says:

    BUT, is the title cheesy???????

    As for the rest….its just someone putting into book form all the rumors about Meghan over the past 2 years, and its gross, but its obviously going to appeal to some people.

    • Melissa says:

      Not cheesy, more like a complete fabrication – as you said, it sounds like a rehashing of gossip rather than ‘intimate’ or a ‘memoir’

  30. Aurora says:

    It’s interesting that all the supposed bad things about Meghan are unconfirmed and coming from unnamed sources. Meanwhile most credible, named people on the record have nothing but nice things to say.

  31. ABritGuest says:

    Dan Wootton had this story ages ago so think there was definitely an incident. As they said staff looked down on her, were calling her nicknames within weeks of her arrival. They probably didn’t like taking orders from her so probably led to some confrontation. I always guessed that’s why Harry was at the tiara selection with her which was atypical. i wouldn’t be surprised if theres a case of white fragility going on here. See Katie Couric being so shaken by a simple correction by Denzel Washington years later.

    i don’t get this whole thing with Kate & Meghan. they are better actors than I thought cos they seemed friendly enough at public outings except the last one.

    Sounds like they are suggesting Kate is the victim and Meghan couldnt take not being Queen bee yet any hostility has been from Kate’s side eg shade at Meghan from KP friendly press& Kate ignoring her at that service.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yeah, I agree that there was some sort of incident, although KP did actually deny the staffer story at the time, more or less. I wouldn’t be surprised if there had been some friction, especially if Meghan felt she couldn’t trust any of the staffers since “my palace source” was always running to the press.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “Sounds like they are suggesting Kate is the victim and Meghan couldn’t take not being Queen bee”

      I think Meghan could care less about being “Queen Bee” BUT not being “Queen Bee” was not going to stop Meghan from doing what she wanted to do regarding her ‘Royal Work”. I think this is where the rub lies on this matter.

      • DarlingDiana says:

        I think that you are right. That is why it was never going to work.
        The royal family works like a company with The Queen as CEO. No one gets to do what they want. They do what is in the best interests of The Queen, as she sees fit.
        I’m honestly shocked by a lot of this. I thought Harry would have made expectations within the organization crystal clear. Maybe he did but the reality was different than the expectation.

      • ABritGuest says:

        But the thing is that everything Meghan did as a senior royal is something other royals had done before- Charles has written a children’s book with proceeds to Princes Trust, Kate has edited Huffington Post, Charles edited country living& was actually calling for changes to agricultural policy unlike Meghan merely having diverse& left leaning people on cover of Vogue which was called ‘political’. Camilla produced honey products with proceeds going to charity. Charles has a clothing line coming up. So why would the Queen have a problem Meghan’s projects especially as it was bringing in a lot of international attention to the family again, making them look more inclusive etc.

        Even if it’s about “popularity needs to be focused on heirs“- Harry was always 1st or 2nd most popular royal- why weren’t his wings clipped on things like Invictus Games which raised his profile- saw him with world leaders etc? Doesn’t quite make sense that the Queen as CEO would have an issue with what Meghan had brought to the Firm

      • DarlingDiana says:

        I cannot possibly know what, if any, issues The Queen had with what Meghan was doing or planning to do. It may be the direct opposite in that Meghan just didn’t want to be tethered to England and the royal family especially if, for whatever reason, relations soured. It could just be too much of an adjustment as a single, American, mature woman with only herself, her beliefs, and her politics to consider to having to be part of a much larger institution wherein she was one among many, all with varying degrees of latitude based on hierarchy and/ seniority.

      • ABritGuest says:

        @Darling Diana I am just speaking to your point about how the Firm runs& how Harry should have explained expectations. My point is that other royals have done similar to Meghan’s projects previously so why would there be an issue with her output and why would Harry have known to explain eg a cookbook could be a problem if similar projects weren’t a problem for the Firm before?

        Given staff were allegedly calling her nicknames within weeks of arrival, Times piece claimed certain relatives wanted her far away as possible& no visible support from the family in face of press attacks& claims some were briefing against her, I’m inclined to believe the issue was more about the Firm rather than her inability to adapt.

  32. Mich says:

    I’m old enough to remember when Meghan was in the wrong because she said ‘thank you’ to staff and hugged some people.

    • Mary says:

      Haha! Seriously, I am old enough to remember how the staff at Windsor just loved meeting the down-to-earth, friendly Meghan at the staff Xmas party she attended with the Queen not long after the engagement.

    • songbirds_thrive says:

      LOL @Mich and @Mary, you make great points and very concisely too!

      The bottom line is that now the Sussexes have left the royal firm, there’s an effort afoot to make Meghan responsible for ‘not fitting in,’ and for not being able to manage culturally, and for being ‘too mature,’ independent, successful and assertive, etc, etc. The real down and dirty truth is that she was never fully accepted by a lot of people, including rotten RRs, royal courtiers and some other palace staffers.

      Meghan was too good at royal life is the reality; she was and is too good but she’s just not the expected partner for Harry, and the naysayers and haters never let her or anyone else forget that. To boot Meghan was not a pushover or a wallflower, or a bow and scraper on-her-knees grateful to just be part of the firm. Tiaras, royal perks, and royal titles for her and Harry’s offspring did not phase Meghan.

      The biggest kicker is that Meghan and Harry are deeply in love, and on the same page. That’s too much for some folk, so they refuse to recognize the simple truth: the Sussexes are a young couple in love who want to give back to others, and who wish to be treated with fairness and respect. They both told the world all we needed to know in their engagement interview. A lot of people apparently weren’t listening.

  33. Sofia says:

    I mean it’s hilarious how there were so many stories for years about how Kate was so mean to staff and that her mother was a nightmare to deal with but now she’s perfect and always has been? Come on try and make it believable.

    And I don’t see her as a shouter. I see her as someone who does raise her volume but not “shout” in the way most people are thinking. A staffer probably did something wrong, Meghan confronted him in a strict tone and that staffer took it as “shouting”.

    • Mich says:

      Not just mean to staff. Outright cruel to the York sisters, for years.

    • Nic919 says:

      Yes there were a ton of stories about Kate being rude to staff and Carole demanding her afternoon Chablis.

      • SomeChick says:

        I want my afternoon chablis! And it’s only 10 am here! LOL.

        Mine comes out of a box and I am perfectly capable of fetching it myself, FWIW.

    • February Pisces says:

      Didn’t Carole try to move her ass into Kensington palace and was denied? Carole is desperate for Kate to be queen so she can move her ass into Buckingham Palace and start bossing around all the staff there without anyone to stop her. Also people seem to have forgotten the loyal employee that Kate fired after 7 years, straight after her wedding. She then blamed it on Meghan.

      • notasugarhere says:

        All the Midds moved to Anmer Hall right after W&K. Came for Christmas, didn’t leave, and the housekeeper quit after only five months of dealing with them.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Oh, they tried to soften the about-face on Kate’s behavior with that line about not being affected “too much” by her grand lifestyle. She’s certainly still grand enough to fire a longtime employee right after said employee’s honeymoon. Definitely grand enough to demand her husband “phase out” two born and bred members of the aristocracy (the same group that she and her sister were so thirsty to join).

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Lets also not forget how the Cambridges have had a pretty much revolving door of staff since they got married – something that NEVER happened when William and Harry had a few members of staff that work as part of their fathers office.

      It was said that after the Cambridge wedding the entire Middleton clan became very impressed with their new status – it wasn’t only Kate and Carole who treated the staff badly, Pippa and her brother were also at it. There is the story about how James literally threw his car keys at an RPO telling him to park his car when he turned up to attend Pippa’s book launch where it was said that KP staff were involved in organising. Lets also not forget about the ‘press’ releases that were sent from KP promoting Pippa’s wedding.

  34. Abena Asantewaa says:

    That is funny, because if you are not used to servants, you are more likely to treat them as your equal. There isn’t one single diva story of Meghan from Hollywood, or her co actors, suddenly, we are made to believe that Meghan after 36 years had suddenly transformed into a screaming diva. This is total fabtication. No wonder, they are taking pot shots at Omid’s book, because, it would dispell all those nasty lies. The Cambridges, despite their status and hierachy really suffer from inferiority complex. The British public are getting exhausted from the villification of Meghan. The truth would one day all come out. I remember, reading a similar treatment of Michelle Obama in her book; Becoming’.

  35. Jess says:

    “Divorced, mixed-race American.” Good God. I can’t really think about the whole Meghan thing too much because, honestly, it makes me irate. What this poor woman has gone through to simply exist and be with the man she loves is just SO RIDICULOUS! It really does make one reconsider ALL of the rumors and crap about Wallis Simpson though…. Like, how much of it was actually true and how much of it was just made up by the angry British press?

    • lanne says:

      don’t give that Nazi trollop any benefit of the doubt. She was a racist bitch even in the USA, and was a social climbing royal groupie when she came to London. Meghan on the other hand, may have tried to befriend the staff, asked direct questions (I remember British people seemingly taken aback when I asked direct questions as an American living in Scotland. ) Being direct is simply an American trait. What’s incredible to me is that no allowances at all were made for any differences in culture. That shows how much the RF was against Meghan from the get-go. They were too big of cowards to come out and say they didn’t want Harry to marry Meghan, so they behave passive agressively to try to push her out instead. Meghan never had a chance. If she had been silent, she would have been “stuck up.” If she speaks, she’s “angry black woman”. And Prince Harry had no idea what he was setting her up for. What an education he has had on racism.

  36. CidyKitty(CidySmiley) says:

    This reads like absolute fanfiction and leans heavily on the “angry black woman” and it is AGAIN doing that mean girl thing “the problem is clearly between the two women who we must compare at every angle and not the two brothers who have clearly had issues for years and years and years.” This article was Kate fan service from Team Will.

    I think its really odd/funny that when the public gets a little closer to the truth i.e., articles talked about the in depth infighting between William and Harry that started long before Meghan they (whoever they are) immediately chuck Meg and Kate under the six wheeler. I’m sick of the mean girl narrative. Everyone said that because Kate didn’t have happy face on during whatever ceremony that was that it “showed her true colors” and I don’t think it did. I’m not saying she’s sunshine and rainbows but any number of reasons could have out that expression on her face. That having been said, I think she’s just as much as a self centered Narcisst as the rest of them and should absolutely be dragged for allowing and facilitating the racist conversation around her SIL.

    Here’s my tinfoil hat: there’s probably a little bit of truth in all of it. I don’t doubt that Meghan can be difficult. I think she does wonderful things, she had charitable heart and had always seemed poised… that doesn’t change the fact that yes… she could have gotten snippy with a staffer. Did it happen the way this BS said it did? Probably not. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a kernel of truth there. But I also think that William and Kate are difficult and if yall think Harry has NEVER yelled at one of their many people on staff please … let’s all just John Oliver this issue: “They are a fundamentally flawed group of people doing a very silly pseudo job.” I don’t doubt that all of them, every member of this never ending drama cycle has diva tendencies. I think being in a position of wealth and status (even as an actress, I know she wasn’t A-list but that doesn’t change it) where people are more doting on you, a person can get good tendencies from that and bad ones.

    This is all a long way of saying, do I think Meg flew into a rage at a staffer? No. Could she have yelled? Yes. Could she have lost her temper? Yes. But that doesn’t make her the monster they are acting like she is, and certainly this article is another example of the great Kate campaign.

    • Tessa says:

      I don’t think Meghan is “difficult”. That is the spin used against her by those who never wanted to accept her–in the royal family, by the media and on blogs.

    • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

      Just gotta say, I LOVE that you threw in a John Oliver reference (love that man/show lol). And you’re right.

  37. Tessa says:

    In Charles’ biography by Jobson. Jobson claims Harry “said” what Meghan wants Meghan gets.” And people believe it really was said by Harry.

  38. Rapunzel says:

    I keep going back to Harry saying in that last interview, “if you knew what I knew…”

    There’s a huge piece of the puzzle behind these Meg stories not being reported.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      A few reporters have are on record saying that they know the reason why the Sussex’s left and it can’t be discussed due to an ongoing legal issue?!?! Its either to do with the court case both Meghan and Harry have against the tabloids and/or to do with the court case around the finances of the, now, Cambridge Royal Foundation. They have said that if they public knew about it we would be much more sympathetic to the Sussex’s. Makes me wonder who we WOULDN’T be sympathetic too!!

      The brothers have def had a falling out and there are many theories as to why – I think its because of many things, BUT something big went down that made Harry mad enough to walk away from royal life. And I’m convinced it has something to do with both William and Kate – they are up to their eyeballs and sinking.

  39. Silas says:

    Outside of being pro-Sussex or pro-Cambridge or a monarchist, what I want is a book about women and the Crown for the last hundred years. How the monarchy has affected the women involved whether consort or monarch or daughter or daughter-in-law or wife of an heir or spare. A book examining the restrictions and dysfunctional behavior of the institution and how the public has reacted along the way.

  40. Ginger says:

    Considering Harry has said he doesn’t see Will and Kate much at all I don’t think Meghan would yell at Kate’s staff because when would she see them? Also, it’s known that Will and Kate are awful to their staff. Kate was awful to staff when she was just a girlfriend.

    Why would Meghan be mean to Kates staff but not her own? Is it because her staff would defend her and Kate’s is at KP and KP are in the smear campaign?

  41. kyliegirl says:

    While I agree that no one is perfect and we all have our off days, I think a lot comes down to staff thinking Meghan as a married in should know her place. It is well documented that William and Charles and even Harry can be difficult with staff. When William and Harry were looking for a PR person it was billed as William who was the difficult one. Andrew is well known to be horrible to staff. As mentioned above it used to be that Kate and her mom were also mean to staffers. Diana’s former cook, who is an ass, but even he said he has witnessed all the royals yell at some point. I can see Meghan hearing something being said or had enough and standing up for herself. For some, confidence can be construed as shouting. Also, no one seems concerned about why she was “shouting” though. That’s what I find interesting. When Andrew supposedly shouted at staff we knew the circumstances. This ‘story’ has been around for a long time, but no other details have emerged. I wonder if this is because it makes the staffer or other royals look bad. No one has mentioned that both Kate and William both lost their personal assistants recently and no new hires have been mentioned. Just the hiring of Meghan and Harry’s former staff.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I read an article, I think it was in Vanity Fair, years ago where the Vanity Fair writer talked to staff and British Royal Reporters. All the people interviewed basically said and I am paraphrasing that Camilla was their favorite because she knew how to behave graciously at all times in any environment and properly “command” staff.

      • Tessa says:

        Camilla’s neighbors don’t remember her as gracious they thought her a snob. this reminds me of stories about dinner guests at Highgrove witnessing Camilla ordering servants around when she was still married to APB and CHarles was still married to Diana (pre separation). She was actually usurping the wife’s role. Though I think since once Camilla was married to Charles, of course they would flatter her. Big TIme.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Tessa – You are probably 100% correct. I was just repeating what I read somewhere.

        What I find interesting is that I have read many positive things said about Camilla by employees of the Firm and different households but Carole Middleton is always presented as the “Nightmare from Hell”.

  42. Aria says:

    One thing we can learn from this that cambriges kids will have hard time to find a spouse who truly love them. With diana scandal most British woman doesnt want into marry any brf member that’s why William got Kate who doesn’t love him but put up with him for title and tiara. No husband loving woman will put with her hubby cheating . Then comes Meghan willing to take royal duty but constant ongoing drama and racist slaughter is too much and this shows te world how racist brf is and tabloids and brits are . Those kids never going to find anyone who truly love them for who they are instead they will stuck much like their mother, or male ones like edo and beatrice story. Poor kids.

    • Tessa says:

      I would not refer to it as the DIana Scandal. I don’t consider her the Scandal. I think aristos did not like the idea of their daughters marrying into that family after the shabby way DIana was treated.

    • Tessa says:

      I would not refer to it as the DIana Scandal. I don’t consider her the Scandal. I think aristos did not like the idea of their daughters marrying into that family after the shabby way DIana was treated.

    • S808 says:

      Charlotte and Louis have a chance if they can escape before getting married. George however….yeah good luck. hopefully there won’t be a monarchy to content with by the time he’s marrying age.

    • February Pisces says:

      It’s not just the kids, but William as well. He can never divorce Kate now even if he wants to (and I think he does) because no woman will publicly go near that messy family after the way Meghan was treated. William has technically shot himself in the foot on that one. Oh well atleast Kate isn’t planning on going anywhere and they can be miserable together.

  43. Nina Simone says:

    I have to laugh “Kate’s assured way of dealing with people” yeah right. I’ve seen videos. We all have. She’s painfully awkward and dry. No charisma, no sense of charm and putting people at ease. On the other hand, Meghan has shown how personable and charming she is. The book is a flaming pile of lies. They are really trying to re write history. It’s all sanctioned propaganda from KP

  44. NotSoSocialButterfly says:

    Simply nauseating narrative.

  45. MA says:

    Remember when she made headlines for her “gauche American way” of being too friendly to staff??? They blasted her for hugging people and being informal. Obviously that didn’t stick so they have to go with her being more imperious and difficult than… people who were raised to believe their bloodline makes them superior to the rest of us? If they were more subtle with these attacks sure, but I’m not buying this narrative of the BRF being so humble, laidback, low maintenance compared to the only royal who knows what it’s like to support herself.

  46. Nic919 says:

    I will chuckle when the sales for Omid’s book quadruple this one.

  47. Lizzie says:

    I think the staff, who are a tight clique and huge snobs themselves, had the attitude of ‘who does she think she is?’.
    They believed she should defer to everyone and know her place because she is married to the spare and not the heir. Being a bi-racial American just added more justification in their eyes that she didn’t belong and should be nothing but deferential.

    • ABritGuest says:

      That’s exactly it Lizzie. Camilla Tominey was quoted in the New Yorker piece that the staff were put off by Harry and ESPECIALLY Meghan’s requests around the wedding& were like “who do you think you are”. Think that related to asking for scented candles at the wedding. The writer pointed out there was no fuss/diva articles when Kate also requested scented candles at her wedding years earlier.

      The most interesting bit is claim some of the family (so not just staff?) looked down on her. The author distancing the Queen from that because she likes Barack Obama& would love him to visit again is the best use of ‘I can’t be racist I have a black friend’ ever!! Trump will have a fit lol

      • MsIam says:

        I was just thinking of that same article. If you have people who right from the start have an attitude of “Who are you?” and “You don’t belong here!” then I can’t see people like that falling over themselves to be helpful or compliant. I’m quite sure that Meghan faced shit right from the beginning, especially if the staff heard other family members saying disparaging things about her. So I think the fix was in right from the start on this one.

  48. Lady D says:

    nvmd, comment vanished.

  49. CatWomen says:

    Lots of great comments mine being so what if Megs made a comment someone working for her thought was rude. It probably happens dozens of times for all the rumors to have circulated. She was in a new culture and learning in a very weird abnormal situation and family. She’s not perfect she’s human she makes mistakes. As long as she loves Harry and cares for him, that what’s important.

  50. LRob says:

    I’m so calm about this. The “oldtimers” NEED to keep up their narrative; I don’t even need to sweat it. I will say 1 thing.Meghan Markle was a fully empowered creative business woman, influencer & entrepreneuer when she joined the BRF. American or not, servants or not, she knew how to plan, make decisions, execute a strategy, direct a team, market & communicate across media. If she employed her skills, she would have had no problem telling people what she needed & wanted. A flexible forward thinking institution would have met her on those terms and made adjustments for her abilities. It shows such ignorance and rigidity that the royal institution couldn’t do that.

    • Nic919 says:

      The royals and the married ins generally have never worked and were privileged pampered poodles so it was probably a huge shock to deal with someone assertive like Meghan.

      I think we should also take a look at how Sophie was treated early on as well too because she was praised for running her own PR company when they first got married and suddenly that all fell apart with the scandal. You wonder if courtiers didn’t assist with this in also trying to put Sophie in her place.

      Maybe there is a culture of laziness in the courtier system that doesn’t like those who try to do something more than the status quo?

  51. yinyang says:

    The BM always want Americans to appear always in a negative light compared to them. And really this whole Kate stuck up for her staff reeks of the mom who sides with her angel (troublemaker) child against a teacher, it really does. I heard that staff of royalty are not pushovers and usually have a lot of inside pwer that their masters are not aware of, htat if they wanted to could easily illiminate a newcomer…I think after waiting on Kate and William they probably got lazy and didn’t want to do work for two more people and get the same pay, so they chased them out. I think Meghan at that point already had the cards stacked against her. If I were Kate, I would have told my staff to give her a chance, and guided Meghan in the direction I wanted her to go.

  52. BeanieBean says:

    Wow. So much to unpack. The taxpayer costs associated with renovating what is still an unused apartment, formerly the Gloucesters’, is Meghan’s fault. Check. Meghan wants to be like Diana. Uh huh. Meghan worries about having a smaller place to live in than her in-laws. I’m sure the DM is going to love publishing excerpts of this hit piece.

  53. Sof says:

    So, they are finally admitting there was racism involved? That’s a good start, hopefully in a few years we’ll get the whole truth.

  54. Emmitt says:

    I do believe Meghan snapped at a palace staffer. But what the Daily Fail won’t tell you is why and in what context. If they told you that, you’d come away thinking Meghan was totally justified. Let me explain:

    This girl lived 36 years in North America. No one outside of her dusty white family and sad ex-BFF had anything bad to say about her. Not a coworker, not a sales associate, no one. Trust and believe if Meghan had been a nasty person while living in the US/Canada, that would’ve been unearthed and blasted in the tabloids before the wedding.

    The Fail has already said royal family members and staffers had been racist towards Meghan, but Meghan should’ve handled it better. In my opinion, Meghan asked a staffer to do something, which was their job. The staffer did not like having to take orders from a mixed race/black woman …who is Sheniqua Black B!tc# to be telling ME what to do?

    That staffer is probably a woman, too. What many black women find in the workplace is white women do not like being told what to do by a black woman. It’s seen as demeaning and out of place. Because Meghan was raised “white,” she may not have picked up on that particular dynamic, especially if in the US/Canada she was treated as a white woman (or “not like other blacks”). Her mother may have told her and Harry exactly what was going on and why it was happening…hence Harry laying down the law (“what Meghan wants, Meghan gets”).

    Meghan probably reminded the staffer they worked for her and to do what she asked and then we get the Me-gain, difficult stories we get. “Kate’s staffer?” Why would Meghan order KATE’s staffer around? Unless that staffer was also supposed to be working for Meghan?

    Maybe that was the problem: the staffer that was supposed to be working for both Meghan and Kate felt they only needed to report to Kate only. The only staffers I could see having to work with both Kate & Meghan would be somebody on the communications team (social media etc). Otherwise, why would Meghan even be talking to KATE’s staff?

    There are really only 2 groups of Americans who can talk indirectly and get a message across, and that’s Americans who live in the South (that nice/nasty shade) and Black Americans (historically couldn’t really be direct with white people because they could die if they were). Harry may find Meghan’s American directness refreshing after a lifetime of fakery and phonery. British society in general does not.

    • Mary says:

      I totally could see this. You bring up a good point about the staff; much was made before the marriage about how some staff would work for both couples.

  55. Abby Benedict says:

    I don’t believe for a second that Meghan is secretly nasty, or that she even screams or shouts or has an inner imperiousness. I think her worst offense was going hog-wild on clothes at the beginning, but even that was minor…. Prince Charles paid for the majority and she paid for her crazy engagement dress. If Charles didn’t like it, then he could have put the kabosh. As for the tiara debacle, toxic people spin shit soooo well – I have no doubt they said, “which one would you like?!” and then she innocently picked one, only to be attacked from all sides for daring to like one tiara that simply wasn’t allowed. Her wedding dress was oversized and as freaking simple as it could possibly be. Was she really trying to be a diva? No way. She was humiliated globally before the day she was on a global stage getting married. I come from a family with parents just like Thomas Markle and there are two options for the children of families like that: either become just like them or become nothing like them. By all acounts from the people WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HER, QUALITY people who do not have a vested interest in trashing her, she is lovely. She is also soft-spoken. I, too, have a very soft voice. In fourteen years of parenting, I have never, ever yelled or screamed at my kids. There is something horrific and PTSDish about being treated that way as a child, and if our nature is stronger than our nurture, we grow up absolutely determined to be different and the polar opposite. You grow up with around emotional dysregulation with loud chaos and – no thanks. She was also raised by a social worker away from her father’s chaos half the time, so I think that doubly influenced her gentler nature. I see Meghan being more of a silent crier with a sensitivity of genuine hurt, as we saw in the documentary when she teared up. She does things for charity without glamour or flash and often under the radar. Her communication with her father during the absolute worst appalingness of his behavior – as published – was gentle and caring. No doubt there was rage and hurt and disbelief within her, but she gave him one chance after another to please, please show up for her at her wedding. It’s honestly disgusting how these people act like she’s some entitled POS who disrupted all of their goodwill gestures with her entitlement. Further, I don’t see Harry choosing someone with a sense of entitlement. He despises entitlement. Meghan would have fought tooth and nail to continue the princess fantasy if this was something she wanted and craved. This stupid KP book is all absolute fiction.

    • Emmitt says:

      Meghan brought a lot of those expensive clothes with her into the marriage. She had the money and connections to get them. She wasn’t wearing Old Navy & SEARS before she married Harry, she was already wearing expensive clothing. Of course she had to build a working wardrobe and then she got immediately pregnant so she had to buy new clothes to fit her expanding frame. I don’t think she went “hog wild” on clothes at all. She needed to have gone “hog wild” on a tailor. As we saw from the Bye Bitches Farewell Tour, she was actually dressing bummed down to avoid upsetting Kate.

      • Emmitt says:

        Also with regards to the jewelry:

        The tiara story never made any sense because how would Meghan know what tiaras were in the Queen’s vault to know to demand the emerald one? Why would the Queen lay out the emerald tiara amongst the tiara choices, then say “nah you can’t choose that one?”

        There’s also been several stories surrounding Meghan and jewelry:

        Meghan not being allowed to use royal jewels

        Charles not wanting Meghan to use any tiaras

        Cain/Unable not wanting Meghan to wear any of Diana’s jewelry

        Queen’s footwoman cackling that Meghan couldn’t use any royal jewels but everyone else could

        I think TiaraGate went down like this:

        There were actually TWO appointments for Meghan to select a tiara, not one (my speculation):

        Meghan went alone to the first selection. The emerald tiara was among the selections. Every tiara Meghan chose, including the emerald one, was denied because it might not be “suitable.” It was never a straight up “no,” but everything she chose “just wouldn’t work, it wouldn’t be suitable.”

        Harry asks Meghan how tiara selection went and Meghan told him the jewelry courtiers told her every tiara she chose wasn’t “suitable” and to come back a little later and try again***.

        Harry realized the game the jewelry courtiers were trying to play so he decided to come with her to the next appointment and put the courtiers on notice by a) being there in the first place and b) telling them “what Meghan wants, Meghan gets.” (aka I see the game you’re trying to play)

        TiaraGate didn’t come out until Eugenie’s wedding, when it was realized Eugenie was wearing one of the tiaras Meghan had initially been denied.

        IMO “You can’t wear Diana’s jewels” is because Cain/Unable did not like seeing Meghan rocking Diana’s aquamarine set at the reception. But if that’s the jewelry Harry chose to keep of Diana’s and gift to his wife, there’s nothing Cain/Unable can do about it because the jewels Diana left to Harry are now Harry’s personal property, not Cain’s.

        Note: I don’t think the Queen was part of this tiara foolery; I don’t think the Queen cares enough to play these type of games.

        I don’t think Meghan was being a diva. I think palace staff and royal family members were playing games, Harry caught wind of it and put them in check, but because they can’t buck up on Harry, they decided to dump on Meghan. Families will always blame the married-in spouse for changes in their family member, whether it’s a royal family or a common family.

        ***I fully believe the BRF and their staff were counting on Tom Markle stopping this wedding. Why let her choose a tiara when there wasn’t going to be any wedding?

      • MsIam says:

        @Emmitt I hope we finally get the story on Tiara-gate in Omid’s book as well as the “made Kate cry” and the alleged shouting incident. I hope they name plenty of names and dates too. Enough of the sources said crap.

      • Mary says:

        @emmitt, I think that Meghan was initially offered a selection of tiaras that included the emerald tiara. I think Eugenie, after the fact, either said she wanted to wear it or had been previously offered the tiara to wear for her wedding. Then, Megan was given some crap excuse about Russian provenance as to why she couldn’t wear it.

        Regarding Diana’s jewelry, I really think there may be some kind of dispute regarding the distribution of her jewelry. If you recall, Diana did not say which son gets which jewelry. Indeed, what she indicated was she wanted the jewelry to go to her sons so that their wives could wear it. I am wondering if the boys have not yet made a division of the jewelry (and were just viewing it as a shared pool of jewelry to wear) and William was getting pissy about making sure that Meghan did not wear any of Diana’s jewelry that Kate had previously worn. I note that since Meghan came on the scene, Kate has upped the number of pieces of Diana’s jewelry she has worn; and, except for the aquamarine ring, is wearing the “better” pieces. If they have not yet, Harry and William need to make an equitable split of Diana’s jewelry. Regardless of who has worn what.

      • Emmitt says:

        @Mary: I have heard that the boys did divide Diana’s jewelry; Harry actually chose Big Blue, but William pressured him to give up Big Blue so he could give it to Kate. If that’s really the case, then there has been some division of Diana’s jewels. Also, Meghan’s engagement ring is comprised of Diana’s diamonds plus a gem from Botswana.

        I think there has been a division but William does not want Meghan wearing any of HIS mother’s jewels.

      • ADS says:

        “…the Bye Bitches Farewell Tour…”

        Ha! Love it!

      • Mary says:

        The gold watch/engagement ring takings after Diana’s death were not part of a division of her jewelry. At the time, it was reported that each son took some things to remember her by (and that’s when Harry picked big blue). I hope they have equitably divided the jewelry by now.

      • songbirds_thrive says:

        ^^ Big Blue may have been glam back in the day. It’s rather outdated-looking by now, and simply NOT Meghan’s stye anyway. It’s a good thing that Wm pried it away from Harry and gave it to Kate.

        I love the ring Harry designed and had made for Meghan. It suits her style way better than Big Blue. Meghan doesn’t seem to be into a lot of heavy, old-fashioned colored jewels. That’s why I’m skeptical of the emerald tiara story. Meghan seems to love wearing simple and delicate jewelry.

        I also love the ring that Edo designed and had made for Beatrice.

        @Emmitt said:
        “… the Bye Bitches Farewell Tour…”

        ^^ LOL! I love it, and thanks for making me laugh, with great relish!

  56. Sara says:

    Is Tom Quinn the pseudonym used by Carole Middleton? Give it a rest.

  57. L4frimaire says:

    Most of this seems ridiculous and exaggerated, with some tabloid rehashes. Basically these people are trying to justify their nasty behavior toward Meghan by saying “ she brought it on herself” because she acted like a person. Again, no responsibility or accountability from the palace, staff or those of “ higher rank”. I’m sure stressful situations came up, especially if the staff seems as nasty and back biting as they’re made out to be. Could Meghan have lost her temper or complained sometimes, I’m sure she did, especially if she was disrespected. I think people being called “ difficult “ is pretty loaded. This is someone who expects professionalism and is a perfectionist, so when dealing with people who are shooting you down, sure, pull rank and be assertive. This is how people get things don’t, not by being “ nice”. Part of this may be culture clash, American vs British way, and part of this is coming from a profession with demanding people, where people expect things done, and done yesterday. People expect Meghan to be this total saint, but that’s not realistic. I’m not buying that Meghan didn’t like the fact that she’s not married to the next king, who by the way is Charles, not petulant William. This is someone who is a supporting player and believes in teamwork. If anything, I can see her being frustrated at the fact that they were being expected to carry the same weight in duties as the “ next King”, without the flexibility and freedom that should go with their “ lower rank”. Also the lack of cohesion and messaging with the Royal family was probably frustrating. Some of the quotes about Kate not letting life in her “ extremely grand” apartment get to her, at least not too much, makes me wonder if there is more to unpack there as well. Or her being nice to Meghan, “ at first”. Which means that didn’t last long. I’m sure a lot went on behind the scenes, and it started pretty early in the relationship.

  58. aquarius64 says:

    This book is a hard bound version of the Daily Fail. I also think it’s a response to the Sussex book. House Cambridge is afraid they are going to get dragged. This book is a pre-emptive strike.

    • Devon says:

      Yeah, that’s my take as well. Let’s hope more and more people stop taking these pro-Cambridge spins seriously.

  59. Coco says:

    A true lady allows her vocal chords to atrophy, so her voice is physically unable to rise above a certain, refined number of decibels.

  60. Dinah says:

    Reading the excerpt, how is this book’s ‘author’ a serious writer? This crap reads like the same tabloid pieces glorifying Kate and the hit pieces on Meghan with unverified gossip, unnamed courtiers, ‘palace sources’, ‘sources close to …’ lines. I mean, who’s gonna buy this childish, utter trash.

  61. Mary says:

    I have long felt that there is a cultural element of “Face” in the UK among some people, to wit posh and wannabe-posh types. Everything is all about maintaining a (thin) veneer of civility and competency; and, it does not take much to cause cracks, and hurt feelings, in that fragile veneer. Like in Asia, one of the worst things you can do is, or be perceived to, call attention to someone’s failings. Just pointing out an error that someone has made can cause them to “shut down” and/or get very upset with you.

    As an example, I had a bizarre experience in Europe with British “Face” when a woman staying with me (a British friend asked if she could stay with me for a bit), who made much of her family’s aristocratic origins stole from me. When discovered, she lied about it and I kicked her out of my apartment.

    What shocked me was when my British friend rang me asking if she could come back and stay with me! What?! I explained that she had stolen from me and while my friend acknowledged that she had done that, to him, the important thing was that she needed a place to stay and tried to ignore her theft. He (upper-middle class) sucked up to her (tenuous upper class). I told him I would only consider it if he or she paid me back the money she stole.

    Needless to say, she never stayed with me again and I lost that British friend. Why? Because I was the bad person for pointing out the woman’s theft, calling attention to it and throwing her posh ass out if my apartment. Maintaining “Face” was more important to them than doing the right thing.

    I could totally see a staff person of the Cambridges getting upset if Meghan pointed out something as minor as an error that someone made.

    • Ames says:

      Like when His Royal Rapeyness Andrew went on TV and shared how veddy disappointed he was in himself for “letting down the side”?

      “Never complain, never explain” covers a multitude of sins for these people.

      • Mary says:

        Exactly. I am sure there are Royals who, even if they know the allegations to be true, think ill not of Andy for his misdeeds but of those trying to bring them to light.

  62. Beach Dreams says:

    I anticipate the RRs frantically promoting this book in response to Omid Scobie’s biography of the Sussexes coming out in August. The likes of Wootton were already in hysterics on Twitter. “Not the right time” for releasing Omid’s book, but surely the right time to release *this* garbage that just so happens to paint Meghan in the worst possible light.

  63. Ames says:

    “Like many people not used to dealing with servants…”

    Where the actual F do these people find the utter gall to swear up and down that none of this has anything to do with racism? These people are instinctively, superciliously, CONSTANTLY racist and it couldn’t be more obvious.

    Meghan is just another irrational, angry black woman. They make trouble wherever they go and you can’t believe a word “they” say because there’s just no reasoning with them.

    And – because I will never, ever stop pointing this out at every opportunity – even if Meghan is the haughty, grasping shrew they want the world to believe she is, it’s still better than hitting the town with pedophiles and RAPING TEENAGERS.

    • Mtec says:

      I think it’s interesting NO ONE other than “palace sources”, blatantly sexist/misogynist/racist Media people, and an ex-employee who was fired and likes to call herself Meghan’s “friend” whenever blabbing to the Daily Fail, has had a bad thing to say about her.

      Also interesting that when she first debuted with Harry, the hype was all about how the Sussexes and the Cambridges were gonna be the “Fab 4”—until she and Harry started surpassing Future-King Egg-head and Future-Queen Keen in popularity.

      I highly doubt Meghan, after at least a decade of working in the public eye and even more years doing charity work without any conflicts or any rumours of diva behaviour all of the sudden became a difficult, tantrum-throwing person. The narrative just doesn’t fit.

  64. Amelie says:

    I believe there is a little truth to all the rumors we have heard about William and Kate and Harry and Meghan. I could see Meghan having some kind of tense exchange with a staffer or the staffer misinterpreting the tone of whatever Meghan said which became “Meghan yelled and talked down to a staffer, she is difficult all the time.” I could also see Meghan having some kind of confrontation with Kate who was in the last few weeks of her pregnancy with Louis and then just postpartum in the weeks leading up to the wedding–both of them were probably high stress, emotional, and anxious (Meghan with the final preparations of her wedding, Kate dealing with a newborn). They probably both cried! I could also see Harry getting frustrated at some of Meghan’s requests getting refused leading him to state “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!” I could also see William telling Harry to cool his jets before proposing to Meghan and pissing off Harry.

    From everything we’ve seen from Meghan in her work with her charities, we know she is driven and most likely a perfectionist. However Meghan also comes across as personable and friendly and very warm so while I can see her being demanding, I think she fully invests herself in her projects and is determined to do the best job she can. Her go-getter attitude was probably confusing to the BRF who has a different way of doing things. Like people have said above, a lot of this was most likely due to cultural clashes.

    • Mary says:

      @Amelie, yes but clearly the Cambridges and staff were looking for reasons to validate their dlslike and bad treatment of Meghan. Even if Meghan did snap, most people would put it down to stress and let it go. But no, the Cambs are just hanging on to this and not letting go, which to me says they just did not like the cut (or colour) of Meghan’s jib and they really have no valid reason to dislike Meghan

      • Vanessa says:

        Those courtiers were never ever going to give Meghan a fair shot for the moment her and Harry relationship begun . The palace and the courtiers want to sabotage Meghan and Harry relationship that’s why their were palace source going to the daily mail for the beginning and complaining about Harry letter to the press about their racist behavior towards Meghan in the beginning I believe their was a really big effort to make sure Meghan and Harry didn’t married . William favorite leaker said on Twitter that Harry would never marry Meghan she was just a fling and I’m sure that how William and Kate and the courtiers looked at it in the beginning that their union wouldn’t never happen maybe that’s why Kate feel like she didn’t have to pretend to be nice to Meghan . I Think the courtiers got away with mistreatment of Meghan because William and Kate don’t like her and the courtiers knew that so they gotten away with leaking stories about Meghan to press as long as kate looks good in the story the courtiers got away with smearing Meghan . No more what Meghan said or did those people in the palace couldn’t stand her everything she said was blown up to make her seem like she the devil .

      • Islandgirl says:

        I think that this is about keeping a particular narrative going more than anything else. I am not even sure that they are still upset over what happened. I think something did happen and if their relationship were in a better place it would not be a problem.
        The intention is to maintain the narrative. W&K have accepted that H&M will not be returning.
        They intend to do all that they can to ruin any chance that H&M have at having a successful post royal life. Why? Cause it shows them up. If Harry and Meghan are successful it means that the narrative is not necessarily true. Also…..we are here because of jealousy too…..never forget that

  65. Awkward symphony says:

    So this fool took the bait🤦‍♀️ even with Meghan’s ongoing lawsuit they think she wont retaliate😤 it’s only time before they had their focus on exposing these fake “experts” and I think suing this fool will also help expose the Kensington palace rats

    • Mary says:

      I hope she does sue. Until the leakers and the twisted relationship between the Royals and the Rota are exposed, I really don’t think Meghan will have any peace.

  66. Keira Lee says:

    These lies are so illogical. They paint Meghan as someone jealous that her husband isn’t the next king. What, she wanted to be royal so much that she gave it all up in a heartbeat in January?
    It’s all just a pile of twisted crap.

    • February Pisces says:

      I think only in Kate’s head Meghan is jealous she isn’t with the future king. That is the only thing kate can feel superior about. It must kill her that Meghan left by choice with her head held high and she’s still working and achieving her goals and looking fabulous at the same time.

  67. Vanessa says:

    This book is coming out for one reason only to continually the narrative that Meghan just didn’t belong and somehow every racists abuse she suffered at the hands of the press the courtiers is her fault . Simple for existing and getting a England prince to fall in love with her i don’t believe that Kate even made a effort to get along with Meghan at all I believe a lot of the woman courtiers had a problem with Meghan because of her race and felt like they didn’t have to listen to her or respect her I think the message came for the top meaning William and Kate . I believe that the press went digging for dirt on Meghan and came out With nothing so they started to smeared her reputation in England Meghan had a stellar reputation in Canada and in her home town everyone that has work with her has said the same thing about her she is kind and professional. It was the daily mail claim saying that staff members didn’t like her so Meghan went for being way to friendly to her staff throwing the staff ice cream party to a screaming raging diva who made the staff uncomfortable. I think some of the courtiers are worry about their own behaviors and racist attitudes becoming public with the book that Ombie is doing so their trying their hardest to muddy the water and further ruin Meghan reputation. The daily mail and the courtiers can’t have people having sympathy for Meghan she has to be portrayed as the villain who stole poor hapless Harry away for his true love of his life the royal family and being the third wheel to the William and Kate show .

  68. Izzy says:

    I see the smear campaign has ramped back up again. F*** I hate these people so much.

  69. Mina_Esq says:

    Lol they’ve convinced themselves that the problem was that Meghan couldn’t accept that she wasn’t married to the future king and that her apartment wasn’t as grand. Um, maybe she struggled to accept that she was surrounded by a bunch of lazy, work-shy racist a-holes? And that includes will, Kate and their staff.

  70. MsIam says:

    I’m quite sure that if there had been no cookbook, no Smart Works, collection, no Vogue issue that we never would have heard a peep. Meghan so thoroughly outshone Waity that she had to be taken down. Oh, well, keep shining Meghan, this is how you know you are doing something right. These people are like crabs in a barrel so let them stay in the barrel, along with the lovely Prince Andrew.

  71. Flying Fish says:

    Enough is enough already, Meghan and Harry moved on.

  72. Em says:

    I’m so tired. When will they leave them alone ?

  73. Hannah says:

    Funny how there are absolutely ZERO facts to back any of this up. I just call bullsh** on this whole sodding story. The tiara, Catherine crying. 😖 Ugh it all just makes me so cross. We (Brits) REALLY f**ked up 😭 I cant believe this story is still being trotted out! I’m so sorry Meghan and Harry. You deserved SO much better 💔

  74. Myra says:

    Wash—Rinse-Repeat…let it go Brits…let it go.

  75. Nananère says:

    They are all toxic people. It is not black or white. All dark grey . Kate, William, Meghan and Harry. How Can people trust Meghan : she did not have best friends at her wedding, all reports from her past shows she is a narcissist.
    That being said, the monarchy was racist and unfair, but she was not as smart as she thought she was. And yes, she is manipulative. As the BRF. Harry is kit innocent, he is weak and maybe stupid. In circles of power, thinking one side was all angelic is very naive. Especially an Hollywood actress haha. And a future king !
    I am waiting for the downfall of them all with impatience.

    • Molly says:


    • Flyingfish says:

      Don’t bust a blood vessel!

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Troll alert.

    • GuestWho says:

      Her friends and (loyal) family were at her wedding, and there are no reports from her past that would lead any sane person to believe she’s a narcissist. That is the motto of the racist hate group that hounds Meghan threads on twitter. Harry is a combat veteran who was smart enough to pilot helicopters (he is dyslexic who was diagnosed really late and did poorly in school – that does not equate to stupid), He’s also smart enough to start and sustain several charities over decades. He was strong enough to walk away from his racist family who continues to stab him and his wife in the back.

      But you already know all this.

    • Emmitt says:

      And yet all her good friends were sitting up in the Quire right along with her mother. Interesting how that happened when she allegedly has no friends.

    • yinyang says:

      @nanamere Can’t you let WOC have one JUST ONE woman?? If you don’t like Kate and more upbeat like taylor swift or sexy Victoria Bechkham or more ballsy like Mylie Cyrus or more right wing like Ivanka, or well mannered like the Queen, or more mature like Sophie whatever how many more white woman do you need to put on a pedestal to be satisfied?? Can’t you let ONE woman of colour up to bat for once?? Can’t you let biracial little girl have one woman to look to?? Why do you have to poopoo on that too??

    • Izzy says:

      You must be lost. Go back to the Daily Fail where you belong.

  76. Lola_Lola says:

    There are a few things that can be lifted from this is that MM is a grown woman. She didn’t come into this like others very young with a childhood crush seeking a title. She married PH knowing what she was getting into but with different motivations.
    Also, MM knows how to walk away from a toxic situation. She left her first husband and the only thing she took is the blender. This is not her first time holding up deuces and bouncing. This is however, PH first time having the strength to say this is enough and that is solely due to MM and even more so to Archie.
    MM has an inner fortitude that comes from a self worth knowing what she will and will not tolerate. How many of us would just take being spoken down to or being blatantly disrespected and not saying anything. So here they roll out the MM is a b-tch trope that doesn’t wash with the core of who she is.

  77. MerryGirl says:

    I wish these bitter Brit reporters/writers and Aristocratic snobs would let it go – your cruel and vicious behavior has led to the Sussexes leaving and they are not coming back. Writing and bitching about them every single day despite considering them irrelevant is more than tiresome.

    Three things I will always remember…1) When Meghan first came to KP, the reports were she always asked what was the proper protocol of doing things before she did it so doesn’t square with the always breaking protocol stories. 2) Further reports were about her hugging the staff, buying ice-cream machines for the office staff – again does not square with ill-treating staff. And 3) In all the years of seeing pics of the Royals driving to the Queen’s Buckingham Palace Christmas lunch, I have never seen a pic of them on the ‘inside’ once they get past the gates…..low and behold there was a pic of Harry & Meghan walking in the Courtyard – that was my first indication that people were spying on them/taking pics to sell and make up stories. Added to the names they called her, I am 100% sure she was up against a hostile group of people who never respected her and therfore would refuse to take orders from her even if they were simple, basic requests so I believe they looked down on her and made her life a living hell. That is why they had to leave KP and subsequently for their peace of mind, the UK all together. They ain’t coming back Brits.

  78. RoyalBlue says:

    any first year lawyer could cross examine those palace insiders and expose the fabrications and exaggerations. no details on anything just vague hints and whispers. what a disgusting institution to encourage it.

  79. Florence says:

    I’m horrified at Kate’s dress sense/rictus grinning/lack of work but there we go.

  80. Abena Asantewaa says:

    I feel so sad for Meghan and Harry, especially Meghan, with the relentless smear! There must be an objective to this. Is the press intimidating her with these stories to force her to drop her law suit? No, Meghan don’t drop it. Victory is ahead. If the courtiers in KP are the ones giving the author, all these unsavoury tidbits, then W&K have given them the nod. Also why would Meghan wish she were married to a future king, when everyones position has been fixed. Also KP appt only became vacant around November 2019, because The Gloucesters were still occupying that appartment, and it has 20 rooms, so why would H&M choose a 5 bedroom house, if she was complaining that her appt is small. Don’t forget they left all behind to live in LA. The contradictions from the book is baffling, the lies are so many, the press and the author are tripping themselves into knots. Bring on ‘Finding Freedom’!

  81. kellebelle says:

    All these comments on something that I’m sure is complete BS. It’s not like Meghan to yell at anyone. She wouldn’t need to do that. This story is as silly as “Meghan and Kate had a fight before the wedding in the washroom and Meghan bruised Charlotte’s arm.” Come off it.