Sarah Ferguson posted this ^ photo on her social media on Friday. She posted it with the message: “On International Family Day .. I am so proud of our united loving family #InternationalFamilyDay.” “United” huh. So united that she and Andrew bought a luxe Swiss chalet and then mysteriously skipped the 2019 payment when Jeffrey Epstein died. Almost as if the Swiss chalet was being paid for by a mystery benefactor who then pulled the funds as soon as Epstein was dead? That kind of “united.” Check out the comments under the tweet too – people were tagging the FBI and posting photos of Epstein. I do legitimately feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie though – they have to know AT LEAST that this makes them look bad, and that they should honestly avoid this kind of smarmy photo-op with both of their terrible parents.
Speaking of smarmy and Jeffrey Epstein, Netflix made a documentary called Filthy Rich. The trailer was released a few days ago:
It looks interesting. I’m not sure how much “new” information there will be in this documentary, but it looks like a good primer for those who haven’t followed the story. It also looks like the producers spent a lot of time interviewing Epstein’s survivors. I’m glad. Those women will likely never get their day in court. Unless the FBI raids the Royal Lodge (which is unlikely).
Meanwhile, I find it suspicious that the Mail keeps running some very negative stories about the Yorks. It feels like this is a new directive, somewhere, by someone – that it’s “open season” on Andrew at long last. The latest is a Mail on Sunday preview of a book called The Making of Prince Andrew. The book and article is about the psychology behind the “making of Andrew,” basically the psychology of entitled pervert and buffoon. You can read it here.
As for the Swiss chalet debacle, the British papers are running quotes from friends of the “glamorous French grandmother” who owns the chalet. She was friends with Fergie and Andrew and that’s why she made the unconventional payment plan situation for the purchase of the chalet. Now her friends say that she is no longer friends with the Yorks after they screwed her over on last year’s payment.
— cease and desist from LA (@Adios_yuckTeeth) May 15, 2020
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Interesting not heard much discussion about this book on Andrew or the Epstein documentary by British media types who have been rabidly debating Omid/Carolyn’s book even though they came out this month& that book isn’t out until August.
I’m disappointed but not surprised with Fergie’s constant support of Andrew. Putting aside the fact that he’s the father to her kids and that they probably still have feelings for each other, he’s probably also her piggy bank. Let’s her have the royal adjacent lifestyle she never really wanted to lose in the first place.
Without him, she looses the palaces and the privilege of still pretending she’s a royal duchess
Honestly we know she doesn’t have palaces and I don’t think she has much in the way of privilege either. I believe she just has zero common sense and she still has feelings for him.
I said a long, long time ago – just after the *ugh* toe-sucking thing – that these two both liked to play away, and that Andrew didn’t seem that bothered by her and that Johnny’s antics. He was just annoyed that they got sprung and the Royal Divorce Machine was turned on. He just couldn’t admit, or disappoint Mummy, by telling her it was all fine. I don’t believe he ever wanted a divorce, and that’s why they’ve always been tight. He’s a perv, which is fine by her, and she strikes me as liking a bit of rumpy-pumpy outside whatever they’ve got going on. It’s good they’ve all remained close. I guess.
Yes. I doubt they care about peasant morality.
@AnnaKist – I must agree with you. All along through the years, I have always thought and strongly believed that Andrew never wanted to divorce Sarah.
I also think the reason for not allowing the York Princesses to work as Senior Royals is because the BP courtiers cannot stand their parents. Nothing else makes sense to me..
I’ve not seen Emily Giffin mention this POS in her rants about “bad” members of the BRF. Hmmmmmmm
Well Andrew named his kids traditional royal names, so EG is fine with him.
hahahahaha!! very clever! I must admit I don’t know for SURE that she hasn’t, but I am fairly sure, and I do think that speaks volumes as to her motivation.
Most of them seem to support Andy more than Harry and Meghan.
Andrew is staunchly defended by the same people who trash Meghan and Harry.
Dear, Fergie is not a member of the British royal family. She likes to give the impression she still is. That’s how she keeps tricking royal groupy business people to finance her failing businesses.
oh, I was talking about Andrew specifically. And while Fergie is not a member any longer, she does seem to pop up all the time
I howled when I saw people were tagging the FBI. That’s exactly the kind of response the picture deserved.
That was amazing. Sometimes twitter can be fun and that was one of those times.
Same!! Just the laugh I needed today. A sign that people have had enough of him.
@Becks1
Lol agreed. They should also be tagging Eugenie’s Anti-Slavery Collective which apparently was about supporting people who have been trafficked. She co-founded it, and apparently she was set to start a podcast for the collective discussing sex-trafficking, but that all stopped after her father’s scandal. The collective still has an active page on Twitter. It might be petty, but I tagged them under this photo 💁🏽♀️
As a straight arrow, I loooove stupid criminal stories. Post on FakeBook” & get tagged by the FBI. YESSSSS.
I will be brutally honest and say I no longer feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie. They’re grown women who have made a choice to be seen actively supporting their father. They’re more than capable of saying “Mum, I don’t want you to release new pictures of me with him because the public are quite right to ask for him to speak to the FBI and it’s downright embarrassing for me that he hasn’t”, etc.
They’ve made their choice, now they should be viewed accordingly.
So true! They’re not minors with no choice in the matter. They are both in their thirties, aren’t they? So yeah, they are choosing to be a part of the “genteel family man” charade.
➕💯. Rae —- Totally agree. The York women have chosen sides and their ongoing public support says it all. I understand loving a parent and maintaining a private relationship in this case; however, by publicly showing support they are clearly sending a message that Andrew’s despicable, illegal, and immoral activities are fine with them. Eugenie’s support is especially disturbing as she wanted to engage public awareness of sexually trafficked females and was launching that support initiative right when Andrew’s self-imploding interview was televised. Boom, she folds up that tent and goes silent.
@Ja
Yeah whatever happened to Eugenie’s charity for trafficked girls?? I always side-eyed her involvement with that given her father’s crimes and how close that entire fam was with Epstein.
I think Eugenie is so incredibly calculating. I think she supported that cause to minimize negative attention for also supporting her father.
Would we have as much sympathy for the York sisters if they were men? Do we just shrug off their behavior because they’re women and we assume they must be naturally sympathetic to women and are just being peacemakers with their family?
Think about that ridiculous Christmas card. It’s getting harder to make excuses for the York sisters.
@hope that’s a very interesting question.
At this point they are as complicit as Sarah is providing cover for a person who has used sex trafficking services. They cannot actually believe he didn’t. And they must also believe the victims who are currently speaking out asked for it. Anyone who believed the victims could not in conscience pretend their father didn’t at minimum help facilitate things. Which makes Eugenie’s foray into the sex trafficking support group even more despicable.
This.
They aren’t two toddlers.
They are grown women, I understand it’s their father but publicly supporting him?
No.
No pity
Hard agree. I understand he’s their father but they’re making it clear that they will stick by him no matter what even in public, not just in private or only in private.
Eugenie even had a weapons dealer who brokered meetings between Andrew and Gaddafi. He probably was Andrew’s choice but Eugenie is a grown woman who can easily say “Look dad I don’t want this shitty person who is BFFs with dictators to be at my wedding.”
I’m going to go against the grain and say I do still have a lot of sympathy for them, even though they’re obviously making questionable choices. They might be grown women but I can’t imagine how it must feel to find out that your father, a man I assume they love very deeply, isn’t at all who they probably thought he was. Maybe they’re in denial, maybe they don’t know what to do but I don’t think it’s fair to be overly hard on them when we have no idea what it must be like to be in their shoes. I can imagine loads of guilt tripping is probably going on from Andrew and Fergie.
I agree that they probably really don’t believe it and I don’t think that’s so weird. I don’t know if I have sympathy for them – plenty of people, especially non-millionaires, have parents in jail who shouldn’t be in jail at all you know? If they think their dad is innocent, then this is merely an embarrassment.
But in terms of them being in denial – there are quite a few people in my life, who I love dearly and otherwise think highly of, who don’t believe in vaccines. People have a huge capacity to reject information that runs counter to their beliefs, you know? This is their dad, who they likely imagine they know better than anyone… Idk, in my experience people have a hard time believing a loved one is a rapist. But I guess that’s not really an excuse, since usually it’s the children who know the truth and the rest of the family who doesn’t believe them.
I will never feel sorry for the girls. They are famous for “needing” a couple months of vacation days every year from their jobs and that they fly more in a year than than the average Briton flies in a lifetime. They must be suffering terribly during covid 19 and a new austerity.
@nahema, it is possible to love someone without impliedly supporting their actions. How else are we to interpret this show of a united front?
I think Fergie knows it’s true, but she’s got all her horses in that race, so she’ll turn a blind eye until she’s in the grave. But I’m sure that Andrew lived a very compartmentalized life, and his daughters never directly saw anything suspicious. And it’s sounds like they have a pretty close relationship with him — so, yeah, I think they believe his BS.
If my father had been accused of that kind of behavior, I think I would have a hard time believing it was true because it would be so at odds with the person that I knew.
I feel bad for them, it has to be horrible to have a father like that, and to have all of it so public. We also don’t know what sort of gaslighting he (and Fergie) have done on their daughters over the years, but there’s so much information out there NOW, one would hope they’d at least be questioning things and not just blindly supporting him.
If people bash the queen for supporting and propping up Andrew then why should Beatrice, Eugenie and Fergie get a pass? Wasn’t it claimed that Beatrice advised him to do that stupid interview?
True but I doubt they can control what pictures she posts.
The tagging of the FBI did make me smile as social media is NOT letting this be forgotten even thou Mummy has the mainstream media paid off on the subject of her favourite son.
Whenever I see photo’s of Andrew and Fergie it makes me think of a pair of skeevy middle aged swingers.
They’re nuts for posting this photo, all of them. They think they have a following?! Eugenie and Beatrice might be less guilty because they have “jobs” and take ubers etc, but Andy and his consort have been on the grift all their lives. His Payola at the Palace scheme – if your venture made money you had to pay him a tribute forever.
Done with these people.
They are all disgusting grifters. The more I read about PedoAndy and his idiotic entitled trash wife the more my blood boils. As for the daughters, they have choices to make. And so far they’re not making the right ones…
Shout out to everyone who tagged the FBI! And ugh Fergie is just as bad & skeevy as Andrew. And always so tone-deaf. Part of me feels bad for the girls, as they can’t help who their parents are. But the other part of me is like read the room (!!) & stop being so public with him. Even if they believe he’s innocent, they have to understand how he’s perceived and how they look supporting him publicly.
I will definitely be watching the doc. I want these women to keep talking about what they went through in any forum they can.
I am gonna watch Filthy Rich just for the views so these survivors can still get attention and interviewed about what happened to them. That is what I can do as someone who believes them and wants some justice.
I hope this documentary hones in how Alex Azar made the sweetheart deal that protected countless rich pedophiles that utilized Epstein’s services, and they keep mentioning his name – not just referring to hims as the DA. People (Republicans) need to recognize his name and realize that Trump happily gave him a job in his administration (and in a position you, especially, don’t want a pedophile protector in)
Acosta, not Azar. Those are different Magats…
oh dear, after awhile they all start to run together **oops**
This attention seeking hangers on, freeloader and failed ‘business woman’ is annoying.
The thing with Fergie is that she is the only one who constantly hints about the ‘fantastic family union’. If they are still an union, if she is Andy’s woman again/still, why not say it openly? Why the constant hinting on social media? If Philips is the problem to do so… well, don’t think the old man is aware of the family matters any longer; he is almost in his grave.
Maybe it has something to do with money? Maybe they throw them cash if Fergie stays on the periphery? At any rate, this family is way over involved in each other’s lives. That would be enough to send me running for the hills.
Its loooong been said that Philip is the ONLY reason they haven’t gone public with their relationship – he reportedly cannot stand her and he might tolerate them together as long as its not public. Story is they are waiting for his passing to not only go public but to get re-married.
The York attempts at normalizing themselves and their rife-with-shady-activities lives really disgust me. Sarah and Andrew, who I think effectively function as a single unit, have been grifting for decade. It seems like maybe the tides are starting to turn on them and I hope that a solid investigative journalist is able to lift the veil on their shenanigans.
As for Eugenie and Beatrice, I’m not sure where I fall. I think it’s hard to realize that your parents aren’t the people you had hoped. That said, I agree with so many other commenters that they’re adults and continue to very publicly support their parents, despite the mounting evidence of their crimes. Clearly, if B&E are living with their parents during a pandemic, they have a very close relationship with A&F.
Is this photo new? I think this is from a few years ago. A&F look a good 5-10 years younger. And I can’t see Eugenie isolating with them- she has her own husband and home
Is this photo new? I think this is from a few years ago. A&F look a good 5-10 years younger. And I can’t see Eugenie isolating with them- she has her own husband and home
I read that isn’t is highly unusual in this price point in Switzerland to finance property. They agreed to the arrangement because “he was Prince Andrew… why would he default?”
Do you thing, Karma! We see you!
It is unusual in Switzerland for this to happen but the owner agreed to it as apparently she had know them for years and was a friend but not any more, the friendship ended over the fact that these 2 grifters tried to stiff her for the remaining monies they owed her for the sale.
There was another story in the Fail on Andrew being connected to another of Epstein’s trafficked girls. A few hours later, there appeared a story about Harry and Meghan, and how they’re “finally” paying back the public for Frogmore. Coincidence or Conspiracy? Even now, the RF is clearly leaking info on H&M to distract from PedoAndy’s crimes. And the media let’s them cause H&M get more clicks and comments.
The connection has been obvious for a while. The story about Sussex Royal being taken away was leaked around Andrew’s birthday when there was that bus with his face on it. If something negative is about to come out about a member of the BRF, Harry and Meghan are promptly thrown under the bus.
Even The Onion pointed it out and you know it’s bad when non-royal outlets can see it.
At some point, stories about the Sussexes will dry out and there won’t be anything the BRF will be able to use to distract. I live for that day.
I can’t judge the girls for standing by their father, they were probably raised to believe their family is above everything and everyone, people are out to get them and will lie constantly, the only people they can trust are fellow royals. In any case, they aren’t the problem. The problem is the family as a whole and Liz in particular. This is dumb, tone deaf, and bad PR. And I’m still wondering what Charles’ role is in all of this. He clearly has no control over anything in that family. That’s not a great look.
If this is a family picture where are Eugenie’s husband and Beatrice’s fiance? I bet the guys didn’t count on being tied to a scandal that won’t go away. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are strains on those relationships.
I’m thinking it’s an old picture?
Am waiting on the announcement that Bea and whatshisname have broke up.
why aren’t those two married again? oh, Petty betty ordered them to divorce as they were bringing the family into disrepute. and yet, with all the scandals these two have amassed since; defaulting on loans, cheating scandals, shady business deals and association with criminals. just goes to show how the so called upper class are truly classless.
These people have no sense of shame AT ALL. How clueless and entitled are they?? At this stage, they should be staying off social media and should be trying to attract as little attention as possible. But nope, they can’t do it and refuse to do it because they think the rest of us are stupid enough to buy what they are ‘schilling’. Despicable and gross. All of them including their adult children.
Did he get work done?? ANyway this family is worse than the average yet put on a pedestal. It seems like when this news came about the royals got even more supporters and Meghan got hurled at harder, interesting priorities, dump the brf!
No sympathy for B&E, both adults, two more hangers on. Aren’t they all. 🙂 Harry had the dignity to ditch the title and exit. Looking forward to the Netflix video on Epstein. I’m currently watching OJ episodes. Excellent.
I always find it weird how postings from the Yorks seem to emphasize how “united” and “friendly” they still are. Maybe they are clumsily trying to draw a contrast with Charles?
Last year there was a smattering of stories about how the Yorks girls had such a “stable” upbringing compared to William and Harry, which seems like an odd thing to be smug about given the circumstances.
Well, closeness cuts both ways, especially if the person you are close to ever gets investigated by the FBI.
Disgusting. A total PR attempt to portray him as a loving and doting father and family man. They are all equally complicit for posing in this staged shoot. The royal family will do whatever it takes to keep up their fake public personas, their way of life depends on it.
I won’t hold his daughters accountable for his behavior. I try to be understanding when individuals want to deny sexual abuse allegations against immediate family members. Seeing family for who they truly are is a journey that can take time.
That said, I understand when others are upset with his grown daughters for arguably being complicit.
People cover up for their criminal family members all the time. Among regular-degular folks, sometimes they end up in jail. Probably won’t happen with this bunch.
Fergi has to do this because she is linked with Andrew in all of this! She took a “loan” from Epstein which we still dont know if she paid back+was photographed with gillaene several times. She’s in the hole with andy so ofcourse she’s defending him🙄
I used to feel bad for the girls because you cant choose your parents nor were they part of their actions but I dont know how I feel about these smily tone deaf pictures. One of the girls is patron of a anti sex trafficking campaign and yet she chooses to ignore her father’s scandal+continue associating with the charity!!!
Speaking from a US-centric POV Andrew is widely derided and condemned on both sides of the isle over here–he is actually a pretty universal flashpoint, which highlights the sinister ability of the RF to protect its own crimes despite widespread public outcry… why is the British public in particular not outraged at funding the lavish lifestyle of a child rapist and the family members which have enabled his crimes for decades–why do we allow ourselves to be distracted by the topic of Harry and Meghan when the reality is that public funds have been sponsoring a legacy of despicable crimes, crimes against humanity, most of which have been laid bare for public scrutiny over a course of decades with little to no result?!
He has the most punchable face in the history of all punchable faces.
Yikes! I googled their xmas card from last year. Was that supposed to be cute? Very tone deaf.
The world is completely off balance.
We, the working class people, who spend our lives following the law, being responsible, raising families, caring for our elderly, etc. are in relation to the BRF, “commoners”.
Most people are horrified and sickened by Epstein and his followers.
PA has been caught out in his awful, criminal behavior. Openly befriending Epstein, lying that he was at Epsteins NY townhouse to “end their friendship face to face” while many, young females came and went, PA smiling and opening the front door, etc. (I bet that is the only time in his entire life he got up off his “royal” ass and opened a door too) And still he simply refuses to man up and take responsibility for his behavior.
The minimum he should have done immediately was to give over to authorities every bit of info he had. Cut a deal and hand them over! Next, go off into some part of the earth his Mother still owns and stay out of the public eye forever.
PA is a vile, entitled, useless PoS, IMO. Also = tone deaf. The York daughters and Fergie are also idiots if they think the “common people” do not see right thru them all.
F Right off!
So the payments mysteriously stop. Was Andrew blackmailing Epstein? No wonder he killed himself. His life was becoming a nightmare for some time before his final arrest.