Elon Musk tweets some incel crap about ‘taking the red pill’ & Ivanka Trump responds

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I’m actually not happy about the fact that Elon Musk is now a regular on gossip blogs. It started happening with more frequency when he dated Amber Heard, but this year it’s been next-level. There’s his relationship with Grimes, there’s his pot-smoking and the fact that he’s on Twitter a lot now. The story about his baby’s dumb name (X Æ A-12 Musk) was a week-long story. Dude also took about two days of paternity leave, and he threw a hissy fit about the coronavirus lockdown and how it was affecting production at a California Tesla plant. He defied governor’s orders and ordered his employees to work. He’s been showing for months – years, probably – that he’s definitely on the MAGA-lite side of things. And now this:

“Take the red pill” is from The Matrix, and it’s about opening up your eyes to the real story of what’s happening in the world. It’s been adopted by MAGAs, right-wing conspiracists and mostly toxic, violent incels as some kind of shorthand for “we hate the feminist/liberal/progressive world we live in.” As if to underline the disgusting, misogynist, MAGA point that Elon was making, this happened next:

Lilly Wachowski, who made the Matrix, tweeted a response: “F–k both of you.” It got double the likes as Ivanka’s tweet, which… lol. Not only that, but Grimes’ mom is apparently on Twitter and she’s not happy about Elon’s tweets either:


Grimes and Elon Musk at the Costume Institute Benefit at the Metropolitin Museum of Art at the opening of 'Heavenly Bodies: Fashion and the Catholic Imagination' in New York City

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  1. Eleonor says:

    I am sorry fo that baby.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      And its mother

    • holly hobby says:

      He was also once married to the actress who played Mary in Keira Knightly’s Pride and Prejudice version. What anyone sees in this jerk (other than $$) is my question.

      His brother ripped off his restaurant employees in NY too. What a great family – not!

      Complicity Barbie should STFU.

  2. Ruby_Woo says:

    If ‘red pill’ means opening up your eyes…

    “He defied governor’s orders and ordered his employees to work. ”

    This is the red pill right here.

  3. SarSte says:

    America, I am TIRED OF YOU.

    • Esmom says:

      No kidding. We have truly become a shi^thole. I wish I had somewhere else to go.

    • Prayer Warrior says:

      Hey, that’s the United States of America, please. I’m “American” as in, I live in North America, but am Canadian. There’s a whole lot of America unrelated to the United States. South America, Central America, etc. Please be specific.
      You’re welcome to use the “Untied States”, but please, please recognize we are not all “Americans”. We who share to continent would be grateful, eh ~ !!!

      • Lisbeth says:

        As a Central American, I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

      • SarSte says:

        Hoo boy, I’m Canadian but I’ve been living in the UK for so long that I now refer to the US as “America” like I’m Madonna or something (my thick accent remains, however, and still can’t quite remember to say “trousers” instead of “pants”, much to my embarrassment). So please TRUST and BELIEVE when I say I was referring to the United States. Also I don’t think I’ve ever met one of us who would have grouped themselves under the label of “America” until now but here we are! I will be more specific in the future. 😉

      • K-Peace says:

        The USA is the only country with “America” in the title. United States of AMERICA.—as in, the country is called “America”. “America”, when referred to a country, has always been used to refer to the USA and it is perfectly appropriate to do so. If you live in Canada, you are a “Canadian”, not an “American”. What the name of the continent is, is irrelevant. All countries on North America and South America, have a name that they are called, and none of them contain the word “America”.

      • TyrantDestroyed says:

        I’ve never felt comfortable with the demonym “American” so I use USA citizens.

      • Lolafalana says:

        I’m Canadian too and am with K-Peace on this. America is in the name of the country – and it is natural to shorten it and say “America” because we all (I thought) know what that means. It’s a nick-name….for the USA. How is it possible to be offended by calling the US America? It would never occur to me in a million years to say “Hey – please include me – I’m American too.” I’m not and I would correct someone who suggested I was. Should Donald Glover not have used it in his song “This is America.”? What about the TV show “The Americans”? Morrissey’s song “America is not the world”? Or Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s song “America” – meant to be the quintessentially (satirical) American theme song? When someone says “He’s American.” You don’t respond with “Oh – but hold up, where in the Americas?” What Chilean is calling themselves American? What Brazilian? Zero Canadians. Sorry, but that is a really weird position to take, and a really weird thing to get sensitive about. Don’t apologize SarSte and don’t trip over yourself to be more specific in future because one person has gone down a semantic rabbit hole. Everyone in the world knows what is meant when the word “America” is used FFS. I half feel like prayer warrior was just trolling.

      • Lolafalana says:

        Also – Prayer Warrior “You’re welcome to use”…………WTF?

    • Melisande says:

      I am tired of us too. But the reality is it’s a very, very loud minority of unreasonable people and most of us are reasonable. But that minority gets all the attention, and is also in charge :(

  4. lemonylips says:

    From all of the film references out there, these maga idiots using Matrix …. I can’t even form a sentence. Props to Lilly. Leave that film alone. Also the amount of hate in Lilly’s comment section is horrible.

    • Arpeggi says:

      It’s really interesting to see all those TERF, MRAs and MAGA morons try to mansplain the reference to Lilly. I’m sure she’s glad someone finally explained to her the meaning of something she wrote… Gosh I hate these people!

  5. CidyKitty(CidySmiley) says:

    This dude is so canceled.

    I’m honestly surprised that Grimes (honestly don’t know a lot about her) is with him. Although I get the feel that it won’t be like that for long. After this tweet yesterday there were like three articles immediately published about his downward spiral. This is some top rate INCEL crap. The liberal crowd is trying to inch away from him the bros of Reddit are there to stay.

    The worst part about him is his fans. Like that personal literally tried to tell the baby’s grandmother how old he was! And then the “He’s a genius…,” is he?? He sounds like he’s just an engineer.

    • Yuzu says:

      This just feels like the mayo version of Kanye and Kim, and I’m just over it all.

    • Marie says:

      Thanks to this, I am rediscovering Grimes. Her new album is seriously amazing. This interest caused me to look up her mother yesterday, completely independent from this. She had another now deleted tweet that went something like “I’m so happy I muted this person.”

      There are several gossip articles that Grimes’ and Musk’s relationship is very, very rocky at the moment. Since she liked her mother’s tweet and then deleted that…seems to be some truth to it.

      I really hope not, but I have a feeling Grimes got herself stuck in an abusive relationship. The fact that she has gone blonde and had this baby because Musk wanted it points to that.

      • CidyKitty(CidySmiley) says:

        Marie –


      • JulieCarr says:

        She’s always going blonde. That’s not about Musk, that’s just her. She spends months bleaching her hair, gets it super blonde, then dyes it some fun colour for a couple of months and then gets back to bleaching to start the process over. She even did Tumblr tutorials on bleaching back in the day, and like half her hairstyles over the years have come about because bleaching made big chunks of her hair break off.

  6. Lightpurple says:

    I was watching and screaming over this and the reactions to this all yesterday afternoon and evening.

    The majority of MAGATS use “red pill” all the time with no understanding of The Matrix connection. They think it means to “walk away” from liberalism and embrace Trump.

    Elon is pushing hard for a Department of Defense contract for his rockets.

    Nagini is soliciting donations to Daddy’s campaign, which has lost some major donors, AND she’s looking to move on from her starter husband. A fascist genius with billions would suit her portfolio nicely.

    Grimes’s mom need not worry about Thanksgiving; he’ll be gone. Probably at Mar a Lago if Nagini has her way.

    Lilly won Tweet of the Month, possibly of the year.

    Nagini is too ignorant to know she was slammed.

    • Esmom says:

      Did you see that at one point Junior tweeted “Welcome” to Musk? I wanted to scream, too.

      I thought the red rose emoji was a Bernie Bro thing, too, which made Musk’s tweet extra cryptic to me.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Yes, and he included his sister’s tweet with it. They really want his donations to supplant those they lost due to their Covid19 disaster so the whole family is going to recruit him. And they would be quite happy to give him Ivanka if that’s what it takes to get his money and name recognition. Jared won’t know what hit him.

      • Esmom says:

        LP, It’s pathetic and I hope Musk is flaky enough to walk away.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Esmon, he really wants that Defense contract and they’ll probably promise to make him leader of Space Force.

      • JulieCarr says:

        Musk has never been a big political donor. In previous election years he donated in the region of 100k, and that’s mostly small amounts to politicians in areas where his businesses operate.

        He donated to Hilary twice in 2016, and nothing to Trump. He endorsed Yang last year. He’s not a Trump supporter, but even if he was his usual donation for a Presidential candidate would be 5-10k, and maybe another 5k to one of their PAC’s if he’s feeling generous.

        Ivanka’s dumb, but she’s not dumb enough to think Musk will replace a Thiel or a Koch. The one thing the Trump children have a handle on is judging who can be parted from their cash, and Musk is a notoriously stingy political donor.

    • Rapunzel says:

      LP- spot on analysis. I just read an article yesterday that Peter Thiel has ghosted the Trump reelection campaign. They need those dollars … for their pockets. They know the end is coming and are milking everything they can.

      Nagini will dump Tom Riddle to rebrand. He’ll be blamed for all the worst doings so she and daddy can start a TV network, which was always the plan. But they better watch themselves… Riddle won’t go quietly.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Rapunzel, yes! They have lost Thiel and a few others and they never had the Kochs.

        You’re right. Tom Malevolo Riddle will not go quietly. He knows where actual human bodies are buried. He’ll try to pull in favors from Netanyahu and the Saudis. It will be interesting to see who stands by them. And it will just be to keep the worst of the dirt off him, not about the marriage. That marriage was nothing more than a business contract to both of them and a chance to pass on the genes with the help of medical science, not sex. They were both damaged goods as far as the New York Society both families wanted to cultivate and she had struck out with the entertainment/sports world her parents tried to force her into. Tom Brady wouldn’t even glance at her, no matter how hard Daddy tried to push that match. It’s just another real estate deal to all involved.

      • Esmom says:

        Sigh, LP, when you put it so starkly it makes me wish so badly that some baller, any baller, would have married Ivanka and we could have avoided all of this.

        It’s kinda like how supposedly W wanted to be baseball commissioner and somehow ended up as POTUS instead. Their thirst for recognition would be almost comical if we weren’t paying such a steep price.

      • anon says:

        Thiel is now munching on the British NHS via Palantir… The vulture has found a new carcasse to feed upon.

  7. Frida_K says:

    I made one fairly mild (coming from me, it was mild) about ole Musky on twitter and the crazies started coming out of the woodwork. I eventually took my tweet down because I didn’t care enough about the topic to fight for it. I’d just made a passing remark in response to a tweet that was moderately insulting to him.

    He is such trash.

  8. Veronica S. says:

    He’s such a f*cking idiot. Remember when all of his stans were still around, defending him? Would love to ask them how that feels now.

    • Seraphina says:

      I’m embarrassed to tell people I’m American. I used to travel abroad and proudly say I am but now, I apologetically tell them my citizenship. Never ever thought that would happen.

    • Nicole r says:

      I’m not a Stan but I am autistic and he reads as on the spectrum to me. But at this point he needs to just shut the hell up. Making inflammatory remarks on Twitter…just take care of your partner and child already and stay off the internet. What good do these vague tweets do anyway?

  9. JulieCarr says:

    He was very obviously just trolling, and everyone on Twitter seemed to get that before the Trump children taking it seriously set off a new round of reactions.

    The red rose emoji is a symbol for the Democratic Socialists of America, and a popular signifier of support for Bernie. Saying take the red pill and including that red rose emoji is blatant trolling, nothing more.

    • emmy says:

      But trolling can only be called that if it’s clear to your side that you’re not actually serious about this. At this point it’s entirely possible that he’s not actually trolling or that he’s trying to troll everyone, thinking he’s the smartest man alive and nobody is a match for his wit. If your baby’s grandma publicly shames you for being a douche and you’ve been a douche before …

    • Arpeggi says:

      Even if it was trolling, the guy has a 2wk old at home; is this really how he wants to spend his time?

    • Nicole r says:

      Yes he is trolling but why troll now? People are upset, people are dying, people are losing their livelihood and are scared. He just had a baby, how does he even have the (Mental and physical) energy to troll?

    • Valerie says:

      If that’s the case, he did a shite job of it. His tweets and personality are such that you don’t read this as a joke, because it isn’t an obvious departure from the norm.

    • Margles says:

      I’d believe his Socialist bonafides more, if he wasn’t constantly trying to crush unions. He’s vile.

    • anon says:

      Trolling with an alt-reich meme? No, he’s just a freking jerk and he’s been showing his true colours for a while now.

  10. Queen Meghan's Hand says:

    Can we just say it plain?
    Elon Musk is in an active mental breakdown triggered by the impending birth of his SEVENTH child. And now that the baby is here, he continues his public nonsensical rants which effect his company’s market value.
    Why would Grimes have a child with this incel? Has anyone read any profile on him? He has never been stable like “I worry for his sons being alone with him” unstable.

    • Arpeggi says:

      He seemed mentally unstable wayyyy before the conception of this poor baby. I wouldn’t say this was triggered by the birth, it’s unfair to lay such a responsibility on an innocent infant (or on the mother, even if I too question her judgment there). Elon is showing exactly who he is, it’d be good if everyone started to see it

      • Queen Meghan's Hand says:

        Oh, I’m sorry that my phrasing lays the responsibility on his young son.
        Yeah, it’s like every few months there’s something he says or writes that makes people ask, “Is Elon okay?” and somehow that doesn’t dominate the larger conversation around Musk or his companies. Or undermine his persona as a scientific expert (he is not).
        To me, with a newborn and a girlfriend not even a month post-partum, this set of rants seem especially…odd.

  11. SKF says:

    It’s weird though because he also says he wants to socialise the medical system in the US. Is he just trying to stir up drama? Is he currently unhinged or taking too many drugs (or both)? Is he both an environmentalist and partial socialist with some liberal leanings who’s also an MRA incel with some right wing leanings? Odd to say the least. Grimes’ mum seems AWESOME.

  12. Christa says:

    He’s very bipolar. I mean he cannot keep his mouth shut. His stunts cause his stock to take at least 1-2 times a year. I don’t think he can control it. The comparisons to Kanye are apt.

  13. Joan Callamezzo says:

    Time to unload my small amount of Tesla stocks. He’s cancelled.

  14. Frizzy says:

    I just wonder if what everything Justine Musk said about him being a controller partner and lacking empathy is happening to Grimes. It sounds like she had a rough time with the baby. When Justine lost the first Musk baby she said he was disparaging of her grief. He wants platinum blonde arm candy.

    • Marie says:

      I read Justine Musk’s essay and sadly, I see a lot of pointers here. Justine describes how Musk is a man who always gets what he wants and doesn’t take a no for an answer. A few weeks after he noticed Grimes because of that reference joke and looked her up, she dumped her boyfriend of five years to enter a relationship with a man representing everything she stands against.

      Then they are trying for and have a/his seventh child because he wants her to and by the time the baby is due, she is full on blonde.

      I just feel very uneasy about this.

      • Livvers says:

        Her mother seems to be very capable and has been proud and supportive of Grimes’ music. Hopefully if Grimes ever needs to, she will be able to pull off a “Katie Holmes” style departure with the support of her parents.

      • JulieCarr says:

        Grimes mom isn’t supportive at all. They were actually estranged for years because Grimes chose to pursue music, and Grimes says her parents are still really disappointed in her career choice, as well as her personal choices like tattoo’s, her political leanings, her hobbies etc. They aren’t very close.

        Talulah Riley and Amber Heard each broke up with Musk multiple times without issue. He has his issues but there’s no comparison to Cruise and his Scientology minions. If Grimes wants out she’ll just move back into her house.

      • Livvers says:

        Oh really? That’s too bad. I saw a 2018 tweet from her mother that seemed like she was proud that Grimes produces all her own music. Her mother does seem to be a very strong personality. Maybe they have had some ‘on’ periods occasionally, or maybe her mother is quite performative on social media.

        Edit to say: To clarify, I think it is “too bad” that Grimes doesn’t have supportive and reliable parents she could lean on if she needed to.

        But also, with respect, if I was unhappy and decided to end a relationship with a somewhat erratic billionaire that I had a child with, who had many means at his disposal, I might find it just as intimidating as going up against a Hollywood star with a well-funded religious group at his back. I mean a brigade of lawyers are a brigade of lawyers, no matter who pays for them.

  15. bettyrose says:

    Is Elon Musk okay in the mentals?

  16. Lamontagne says:

    Funny thing is, that red pill/blue pill thing is an allegory to transexuality and the Wachowski sisters’ journey. The red pill looks a lot like the oestrogen one that is prescribed for HRT treatment, while the blue pill is Prozac. “Open your eyes” to your true self or “close your eyes” and keep lying to yourself. It’s subtle but it’s there.

    It’s a real shame incels completely denatured the meaning.

  17. Jaded says:

    LOL…”basement-dwelling neckbeard incels” … that is perfect.

    @Bettyrose – I don’t think Musk is OK in the mentals at all and seems to be getting worse day by day.

  18. McMe says:

    Someone should explain to Ivanka what he is referring to when he says take the Red Pill. He’s referring to a documentary about men’s rights called the Red Pill. It details all of the ways women have destroyed men, and how in actuality we are treated better and have more rights, privileges, and opportunities than men. It has nothing to do with being a Republican. She is an idiot.

    • Korra says:

      Yup, and that Red Pill men would see someone like her as damaged goods — already married, 3 kids and over the age of 30. (Side note: these men are gross!) For a woman obsessed with an image of appearing savvy and informed, she can’t even keep up the facade.

  19. Pineapple says:

    Alright, so, Obama addressed Trump. Now, I would love for Keanu to address all the ar%$holes who are trying to corrupt the meaning of The Matrix.

    Come on Keanu!!!! We need all the classy, sensible, intelligent people to come on out and be honest and straighforward and shoot bullet holes through all of this racist, gun toting nonsense.

    This is a small minority and paid bots … that has to be addressed.

  20. Thea says:

    I’ve been sideyeing Elon musk since the Thai cave debacle. He makes me embarrassed to drive my Tesla.

    • ClaraBelle says:

      I had NO opinion on Musk one way or the other until he called that guy a pedophile…just because the guy had pointed out that Musk’s rigid submarine could never navigate the twists and turns of the Thai cave. He never even made an attempt to apologize after RUINING the man and had never any reason or evidence whatsoever that the label was true. So, I’m no longer ambivalent and he is worthy of my hatred.

      • Valerie says:

        Pedophilia is their go-to accusation because it’s the easiest moral high road to take. If you aren’t against that, then you’re a terrible person. But funnily enough, the people who claim to be against it are the ones talking the most about it. Go to most MAGA twitters and it’s all they do all day — They immerse themselves in the darkness that they claim to be at war with. There’s no light there, and they never actually accomplish anything apart from stirring up emotions.

        Another observation: Many of them advertise the fact that they’re ‘dad to 5 amazingly beautiful princesses.’ Like, if that isn’t hypocritical… lol.

      • Esmom says:

        Valerie, You make sure a good point. Pizzagate was a great example of the accuser’s minds just going to the darkest places way too easily. It’s like they can’t grasp how the normal world works anymore.

  21. Oliviajoy1995 says:

    Ivanka Trump is such a tool.

  22. L4frimaire says:

    I actually hate follow him on twitter. Dudes a loon but for us in NorCal, really disgusted how he reopened the Tesla plant, and using jobs and livelihoods to get his way and push around public officials. The whole situation was handled badly and public officials from the governor on down look bad in giving in to him without coming up with a good solution or plan to keep workers and general community safe. Most of the big tech billionaires are doing the right thing in this lockdown, then you get this attention whore with his shady bullshit stunting for attention and using his wealth to get his way, with no thought for the health consequences. Robert Reich called him out, and Musk blocked him. He’s definitely missing the empathy and impulse control chip.

    • Candikat says:

      This. He lost me forever when he nastily insulted public health officials and medical experts in CA, implying that he knows more about COVID and safety protocols than they do. I was disappointed that they gave in. I’m even more disappointed because Tesla is my aspirational car. I hoped to be able to own one someday. Not anymore, not if it deposits one penny into this jerk’s too-deep pockets.

  23. Valerie says:

    Lily Wachowski told them both to fuck off, lmao, and the incels came out of the woodwork to ask her if she had ever read the book or watched the movie. How embarrassing. It never occurred to me until that tweet that they, some of the biggest haters of trans people, have co-opted a story by a trans woman. Not only that, they’ve staked their entire lives upon it. Who’re the uneducated sheep now? ;)

  24. Stacy Dresden says:

    Grimes is just too good for this

  25. lili says:

    I’m sorry, I don’t blame Grimes, I don’t get if she’s truly that different or it’s played up (ala Gaga).
    She, a liberal indie artist chose to be in a relationship with a known abuser and possible psychopath Musk. She tweeted before meeting him that he was brilliant and she was a fan.
    Now she has a child with him. Isn’t it a bit hypocritical?

    • willa gulbransen says:

      Now that she’s given birth, she’s probably seeing the Forest for the Trees. I kind of feel bad for her, emotionally.
      By the way, I love the comments on here. So much intelligence and actual sense being made.

  26. Blueskies says:

    Add to all this bizarreness Gerald Butts weighing in! He’s Trudeau’s former political consultant.

  27. TyrantDestroyed says:

    Elon Musk is such a mess… Ugh.