Kayleigh McEnany on school reopening: ‘The science should not stand in the way of this’

Kayleigh McEnany Press Briefing

Like so much of the coronavirus crisis in America, school reopenings will likely be a lopsided and state-by-state issue. The White House decided that “schools need to reopen,” like if they just say it enough times, maybe it will happen and maybe it won’t be an enormous public health crisis on top of another public health crisis. Parents are scared to send their kids back to school, kids are scared to go to school and teachers are prepared to quit their jobs en masse if they’re forced to go back. And then yesterday, in the White House press briefing, this happened when a reporter asked press secretary Kayleigh McEnany about school reopenings.

“The science should not stand in the way of this.” That’s the quote making everyone scream. This is where we are: the Trump White House arguing that science is standing in the way of ordering children back to school in the middle of a deadly pandemic. Children are going to die because Donald Trump and his people think “science” is the enemy. I also find the second half of her answer curious: “Everyone else in the Western world, our peer nations, are doing it.” Yeah but our peer nations actually took the pandemic seriously and now those countries are reporting dozens of new cases a day, not tens of thousands.

Vanity Fair had a good piece about how crazy it is that how we’re four months into the American response to the pandemic we still don’t have a f–king national response. Here’s an excerpt:

“We need a g-ddamn federal response,” Jeremy Konyndyk, a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development who ran USAID’s Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance in the Obama administration, told me on Wednesday. As countries around the world that have managed COVID-19 have cautiously begun to shift back toward normalcy, the United States continues to break records of new reported cases. Among public health officials and pandemic experts that I spoke to, the blame rests squarely with the White House. “We need them to f–king do something. It really remains the biggest weakness and it is why we’re seeing this kind of a second spike when no other comparable peer country is,” Konyndyk added.

With Donald Trump unwilling to take responsibility early in the pandemic, the response was left to governors and local officials, creating incoherency and inconsistency across the country. Konyndyk likened the novel coronavirus to burning embers left out after a fire. When states moved too quickly to reopen, it was “giving the fire a ton more oxygen.” The surge in cases in states like Florida, Georgia, Texas, Arizona, and California was sadly predictable. A spike in one state leaves every other susceptible. “We’re seeing right now the effect of having a 50-state approach to this pandemic and not a United States approach to this pandemic,” said Beth Cameron, a former civil servant who ran the White House’s National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense under Obama. “We tried a patchwork approach. It failed. Now we need a unified approach.”

“This is horrifying, the situation we’re in right now, and is a direct result of a White House failing to take ownership of [its] role as the lead in a national disaster, a 50-state disaster, and to provide strong, clear policies that would guide an entire nation,” Juliette Kayyem, a former Department of Homeland Security official in the Obama administration who played a critical role in the H1N1 crisis, told me. “Instead you had a president who was fighting the science, questioning the scientists, undermining what we knew would stop the virus, pushing for early openings and seeming untouched by the impact that this was having on the American public. Just seems impervious.” In recent days, Trump has appeared more focused on beans than the coronavirus crisis.

[From Vanity Fair]

VF’s sources point out that the White House has spent much of the past week trying to discredit and malign Dr. Anthony Fauci, which we discussed. It’s true, and it’s part of the larger problem with the “federal response” – from the start, they treated the pandemic like a PR war they could win by mocking Democrats and doctors. And that’s it. That was their only plan. It’s so asinine.

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  1. Jerusha says:

    Ignorant twunt.

    • CariBean says:

      😂😂💀

      And I’m stealing that.

      • Jerusha says:

        Use it freely for all the women French kissing trump’s flaccid butt.

      • bettyrose says:

        Jerusha:

        I actually just vomited quite a bit in my mouth reading that. It’s true but OMFG!

    • SomeChick says:

      I always cringe at words like “twunt” and the two words it derives from.

      She’s despicable and she should absolutely be ashamed of herself. But it’s not because she’s a woman, which is what that insult implies. Reducing a woman to a body part is what her overlords do. I wish we could do better without resorting to that.

  2. Solace says:

    Her level of confidence and self assuredness in all these pressers is staggering.

    • Emily says:

      A fellow CNN commenter of hers said that she’s very smart and very prepared, which is why she’s gotten so far at such a young age.

      And that’s precisely why she’s so dangerous.

      I also read. Washington Post article recently about the role of the press secretary. Apparently she’s paid for by taxpayers and works for us — I’d never have guessed that because she acts as if her job is as the President’s personal propagandist.

      • 10KTurtle says:

        Have you seen the press picture of the tabs on her binder? She is TERRIFYINGLY prepared. She literally has a tab labeled “LIES.”

      • Jerusha says:

        Don’t give her that much credit. She’s dangerous because we have a staggeringly high number of stupid and/or gullible citizens. Anyone with a speck of discernment dismisses her arrogant lies.

      • Murphy says:

        Working hard is different from being smart.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I see no positives in the ‘qualities’ of the latest Trump Barbie Snake Oil SalesWoman

      • hunter says:

        No lies. She is very pretty and VERY good at her job. Perfect casting and she will likely go far.

      • Chelle says:

        What I find particularly sad is that she is the peer or former peer of many who are in the national press pack and they know, watch and see that she’s on some BS. But, more importantly, they know they are watching her ascent as she positions herself for Wingnut Welfare.

        Wingnut welfare is an important, underrated feature of the modern U.S. political scene. I don’t know who came up with the term, but anyone who follows right-wing careers knows whereof I speak: the lavishly-funded ecosystem of billionaire-financed think tanks, media outlets, and so on provides a comfortable cushion for politicians and pundits who tell such people what they want to hear. Lose an election, make economic forecasts that turn out laughably wrong, whatever — no matter, there’s always a fallback job available (Paul Krugman, NY Times, 4/2015).

      • Eugh says:

        She had no business being on CNN at that time. She was a second year law student who was also a Trump bootlicker from the jump. I really don’t like that they amplified her opinions because look where she is now.

      • Elizabeth says:

        Simply reading off mendacious notes prepared by interns doesn’t make her intelligent. Read the tabs, they’re cretinous. How low is the bar for white blonde women?

      • GreenTurtle says:

        Yes, working hard and being smart aren’t the same thing. Working hard is a better predictor of becoming successful.
        Cavalierly dismissing our opponents for not being intellectual enough has gotten us nowhere. She may well be very intelligent. In which case, we need to pay close attention, because intelligence plus a lack of moral compass can do a lot of damage.

    • Esmom says:

      It is staggering. I feel like her crossing the line into a place where truth and integrity don’t matter, she’s able to just flourish. That’s the vibe I get from her. Aggressively dishonest with zero shame or guilt about the very real considerable damage she is complicit in inflicting.

      The way she just slow blinks and then fires off her audacious responses seems predatory to me. Like when she casually just tossed out the remark about Lt. Col. Vindman being a junior staffer. She’s just ice cold.

    • Veronica S. says:

      She’s getting paid a lot of money to use her attractive, blonde, white femininity to deliver destructive fascism in bite-sized chunks for the population as a whole. Plenty sleep easy at night with pillows stuffed with dollar bills.

    • Snappyfish says:

      I have a friend who was down the hall from her at St. Teddy’s (Oxford) He said she was vapid and left at Christmas Break and never returned. She went to Harvard Law after doing her first two years at Miami. Daddy, (who received a PPP $2 million payout even thought he has more employees that the cut off by far) got her into Miami by way of being a huge donor and then she transferred to Harvard 3 year (which is usually not possible) the Kushner way. Just because you have the “right” diploma’s doesn’t mean a thing. She is proving on a daily basis that she is ignorant. Being prepared to lie? This is what she spends my taxpayer money doing? Please vote Trump out of office so this trash is returned to the bin from whence she came. BTW, she also voted by mail illegally using an address she didn’t live in so she could vote for a representative that wasn’t her own.

      Such liars…

      • holly hobby says:

        Oh you mean Kaylee Maccaroni got into Harvard the Lori Loughlin way? She cheated? Why am I not surprised. Hey Macaroni, when you send your child to school, we will follow 4 weeks after that.

  3. Izzy says:

    I’m in South Florida and I won’t even end my quarantine-style lockdown until the experts I work with tell me they think it’s safe to do so. Some of those experts work in Dr. Fauci’s lab. I’ll stick with the science on this one, blondie.

    • Salted Watermelon says:

      I’m in Massachusetts and work at a biotech research company. One of our labs is actually processing covid tests for the state. I have never been more grateful to work where I do, because I know I’m getting scientifically accurate information about the pandemic.

    • MrsRobinson says:

      I’m from Northern California and have been quarantined since March. Almost everyone wears masks outdoors, no indoor dining, etc. I finally drove to Southern California (Orange County) to help my parents. It’s frankly terrifying—no one in masks, big groups of kids roaming around together. Actually that’s not quite true—construction workers are wearing masks. But they’re the only ones, so it feels like a strange class divide.

      • Noodle says:

        @mrsrobinson, I live in Orange a county and can confirm. We have a really troubling undercurrent of Trumpists and white supremacists who have politicized their mask debate and don’t care who they infect, as long as it doesn’t force its way into their freedoms. It’s sickening. Many of us in OC wear masks, are home, and go out only for essentials and work, but we are invisible compared to the future-ventilated big mouths screaming on every corner.

      • liz says:

        Construction workers have long worn masks to protect themselves from inhaling dust. That’s why the first place we went to look for N95 masks was the hardware store. Our building super had a box in the basement from doing scraping/sanding/painting jobs around the building.

      • Esmom says:

        Orange County was featured on NPR the other day for their plan to open schools with no masks and no distancing! The interviewer was way too soft on the school board rep she was trying to press. I was gobsmacked.

  4. Becks1 says:

    Trump and his cohorts decided that coronavirus was the enemy and they were going to fight it, but not in a “lets beat the virus” kind of way, but rather, a “lets fight the BAD PRESS about the virus.” They literally did not care about the science. This could actually have been a huge PR win for Trump. If he had let others make science-based decisions, if people in his administration had looked at other countries where the virus was contained, and acted accordingly – we could be in a very different place right now, and Trump’s poll numbers would reflect that. Instead he has spent the past months fighting the science and losing touch with reality and people are dying as a result.

    Did you all see that one reporter got a picture of Kayleigh’s press briefing binder? Some of the tabs on that…..”wins” was actually a tab. My guess is there was nothing in that section. And there was a tab for “Hogan,” who is my governor, and is Republican, and has been taking this whole thing very seriously (minus the stupid move to open indoor dining at 50% in the height of tourist season, and now is surprised that numbers are up among young people….) – and has aimed a few well-timed barbs directly at Trump (without saying his name.) If you’re ticking Trump off, you must be doing something right.

    • NoWords says:

      When she said “we are the outliers [in terms of not opening schools,” I had to pause the video because the ridiculousness and gaslighting were so OTT.

      Yes, we ARE the outliers. We are outliers because along with Brazil and Russia (great company we’re in 🙄) *we are the only country that has not only NOT contained the virus, but is also seeing a surge in cases.*

      F*$% almighty, the American people are in an abusive relationship with this admin.

      • Becks1 says:

        Right??? the reason we cant open schools and other countries can is because they have done a much better job at controlling this virus. I’m laughing (in a sad way) at all the people who are like “BUT EUROPE IS SENDING KIDS BACK!!!!” – oh, now we want to be like Europe? Sure, lets follow Europe, but let’s start with their healthcare systems and their maternity policies.

      • Mel M says:

        ^^^YES TO ALL OF THIS!! It’s absolutely infuriating and makes me blind with rage that this WH along with the MAGAts are screaming about Europe opening schools but not acknowledging in any way that they took the freakin common sense steps to make this an actual possibility and most people adhered to them and they are also implementing measures at school. We’ve done none of it as a whole and it shows in our numbers. We are the children who didn’t do any of their chores but are throwing a tantrum about not getting their allowance. No one in this admin or their supporters want to do the hard work to get to where they want to be, they just want to ignore it and pretend we can still do all the things without worry and skip to the finish line. Fall is going to be a disaster and I’m scared for so many teachers, students and their families.

        Our school district put out a re opening plan that has levels depending on the severity of infection in the district and there is a choice to be able to keep your child home for remote learning for all but one of the levels and there are protocols that will be in place for in person learning. We have chosen to move my son to an online school so we won’t be faced with the possibility of that one level of not having a choice because we have an immunocompromised child and we are very lucky to be able to do that, it will be tough but he’s young and it will hopefully only be one year. The catholic school though that my friend sent her daughter to last year in the same district as our public school is doing literally the least. They are not doing any kind of remote learning, they will still have students moving from class to class, they are only recommending masks. There is no plan for shutting down if someone tests positive. It’s startling really.

      • Oc says:

        I’n laughing because as a brazilian I never expected to be put at the group as USA. Our stupid, ignorant and horrible president at least is not pressuring schools to reopen, just spoke about it and was quickly shut up. By the way, he loooves Trump and imitates him a lot. That said, at least we have free health care, that despite far from being on its best shape and suffering pressure because of the lavk of responsibility of people and politicians, it’s still saving lives without putting people in debt.

  5. Nanea says:

    Right.

    Do these unqualified people, led by a failed reality TV host, know how to deal with a deadly pandemic yet? They still have no clue.

    Unlike people like me, who actually work in bio-medical research, and who couldn’t stop screaming when my country’s health minister didn’t want to listen to us initially and dithered about social distancing, lockdown light, wearing masks… and finally decided on all of the above about 2-3 weeks too late.

    Our schools will be re-opening in the fall, but probably still not full-time, and with all the necessary precautions like soap dispensers etc in all classrooms.

    • Esmom says:

      No they definitely have no clue. I remember reading a something about John Kelly having to *instruct* staffers to take notes during meetings early on, that’s how freewheelingly clueless and incompetent they were. And clearly still are.

      • ATLMathMom says:

        Just to give you an idea of how stunningly superficial and stupid the political appointees are…my husband is a federal civil servant in a Cabinet level dept. Pre-pandemic, he was told to organize a field trip for a political appointee at a company here. The company was/is involved in litigation with the federal government, so they flew all of their top executives to GA to meet with the appointee thinking that it had to do with the litigation…only to find out that he just wanted a photo op.

      • Esmom says:

        ATLMathMom, that doesn’t surprise me a bit. I mean this whole Trump presidency has been about nothing but the proverbial photo op, with zero substance to back anything up. Your husband must have felt so frustrated and demoralized, thinking his work actually mattered. I hope he keeps up the good fight!

  6. Mia4s says:

    You know I’m starting to make a list of a few people who should jump from the top of a very tall building and try to fly. It’s would be so exhilarating and an amazing view!

    I mean sure, gravity, but the science shouldn’t stand in the way! Uhhh…freedom and stuff!

    • Betsy says:

      I think you’re right. We have no way of knowing if the “science” is “correct” about “gravity.” Flying sounds cool and I think some of these people should try it. Prove science all the way wrong!

    • Salted Watermelon says:

      I’ve heard that the Trump Tower is now the tallest building in NYC since the Twin Towers fell. I bet they know a guy who could get them up to the roof.

    • NoWords says:

      I waitress (I know, right? I’m also “at risk”) to make some money for grad school. My coworker sent me this hysterical twitter thread:

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1277245399795982337.html

      It’s such a great analogy and I laugh every single time I read it.

      • Mia4s says:

        Oh that is GOOD. And sadly close to not just being parody anymore.

      • Sarah says:

        Thanks for sharing that thread, those tweets are brilliant!

      • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

        That IS brilliant! It should be sent to ANY/EVERYONE you know who is bleating about “MAH FREEDUMBS!!!” being “encroached” upon.

        Covidiots! SMDH

  7. Jerusha says:

    Here in Mobile, in the deep red South, our school superintendent announced yesterday that, rather than starting 8/12 as planned, school will start 9/1, remote only, and not even thinking about going in the buildings until at least nine weeks later.
    BTW, our super is a graduate of MY high school, one of my former library student assistants, and the first Black superintendent of the largest school system in Alabama. He was always a top student.

    • TeamAwesome says:

      I am so glad that my President made the call for an online semester weeks ago. We’re in the NE corner of the state and our county and all the surrounding ones are “very high risk”. I am so much happier figuring out virtual choir than the prospect of 18 and 19 year olds aiming their singing at me 5 days a week.

    • Dee says:

      We’re starting out online in the biggest school district in Kentucky, and re-evaluating every 6 weeks. Meanwhile, my friend in Iowa is looking at a return to in-person school with no masks, no dividers, nothing to keep her from getting sick. She’s polishing up her resume as we speak.

    • 10KTurtle says:

      @Jerusha- with that and the new Alabama statewide mask mandate, I think things must be getting a little chilly in hell…

  8. Betsy says:

    Her voice kind of reminds me of Nasim Pedrad doing Kim Kardashian’s voice for SNL.

    In all of this, something that bothers me greatly is the fact that people largely attribute this failing of the government and society to the traitorous loser rapist Donald Trump. And it’s not his fault, not by a long shot. This entire cck up is the fault of the GOP entire – the elected officials, the un-elected officials, and every rank and file goon voter who selected “personal wealth,” or the giddy and ridiculous hope of, every single election. We aren’t in this mess because of one moron, we’re in the mess because of millions of morons.

    Morons who actively work to end legal abortion (no matter how many times they’re told this will result in an larger amount of abortions and more maternal injuries and deaths) but say that the government can’t tell them to cover their face for the the express purpose of preventing death. Morons who think black people are inherently less good. Morons who think women truly shouldn’t work outside the home in any meaningful capacity. Morons who claim to like law and order, but have no problem with any of the corruption or crime committed by the GOP. And I’m done with letting these people have a pass. GOP voters are killing America.

  9. NoWords says:

    What the actual #$@%?

    How do you just decide science…isn’t real? What next? Gravity doesn’t exist? 2+2=5? Who starts a war against *science*?!

    I know two people that needlessly died horrid deaths because of our Psychopath Of The United States, Trump’s, negligence. My brain hurts from this MAGA hell that has become America’s current reality. I don’t know how much longer I can handle this.

  10. Scal says:

    Comparing schools in Europe to here is apples to bananas. Not just because their lockdowns were different (and restarting), but also because they had a solid plan for schools reopening. And they have a safety net for parents that don’t want to send their kids back so you don’t have this panic of send your kids back or lose your job.

    Also from what I’ve read most schools in Europe aren’t even back full time yet.

  11. NoWords says:

    What the actual #$@%?

    How do you just decide science…isn’t real? What next? Gravity doesn’t exist? 2+2=5? Who starts a war against *science*?!

    I know two people that needlessly died horrid deaths because of our Psychopath Of The United States negligence. My brain hurts from this MAGA hell that has become America’s current reality. I don’t know how much longer I can handle this.

  12. Sharonk says:

    All I can say is vote in nov. This is insanity . BIDEN 2020.

  13. el Annoy says:

    I just hope every teacher, every health care worker, social worker, librarian, researcher remembers the fear we’re forced to live with as we make decisions about work and child care and elder care.

    Remember in November, of course and vote the motherforkers out. But remember the importance of good government. We have to fight to rebuild a functioning government that can respond wisely to threats, we need to fight for a safety net that was deliberately unraveled starting under Reagan. The greed of many in the Me Generation (the other name for Boomers) made them open to the idea that their taxes shouldn’t be used to care for the vulnerable in society and now we see very clearly where that leaves us.

    Don’t ever forget this.

    • Maida says:

      100 percent this. The silver lining is that Trump and the GOP are shedding more and more voters as people realize how insane the administration’s “plans” are. Pretty much every teacher I know — whatever their political leanings before — is disgusted by this nonsense.

  14. teehee says:

    I mean she IS the living example of why we DO need to put people to SCHOOL. She obviously missed out on too much of it herself.
    Cos any moron doesn’t just say something as stupid as that.

    But, lady, putting other peopel’s kids to school isn’t gonna make up for your lack of it, ok?

    • ATLMathMom says:

      Actually I don’t think she’s as much dumb as she is calculatingly evil. She reminds me of Glinda in Wicked.

  15. Also Ali says:

    We currently but this may change) have the option of online only or combo online/in class instruction and I’m picking full online for my kids.

    I’m the only one in my parent friend group that’s choosing all online including families I’d consider educated and science believing. And none of the families NEED to send their kids, it’s just more convenient.

    Local governments have to step in. Too many people just won’t make choices against their own interests.

    • EMc says:

      I made the same choice yesterday. Hybrid model (in school mixed with remote learning based on virus spread) vs full virtual for at least 1 semester- chose full virtual. My 2nd grader wanted to do the hybrid at first, because he said he wanted to meet his new friends (we recently moved to SC, giant SIGH right now) but said he didn’t want to wear the mask all day. One of my friends chose hybrid, “obviously”, she said. I dont think we see where we need to be yet, especially here in SC.

      I’ll add this is only an option for our family because I quit my full time job. We are fortunate and privileged enough to get by on 1 salary. I don’t know how single parents or parents in households where both parents have to work are going to do this.

      • Also Ali says:

        I work from home full time and have for years. It will be challenging but doable to have them learn from home – we learned a lot the first shut down.

        Because the district is saying some in class instruction for certain ages is going to be based on availability of space and how many families choose full online, I also wanted to free up space for families that really need in class if it is available.

    • liz says:

      My Kiddo’s school has also said that at most, there will be a hybrid schedule, and all families will have the option to choose a remote-only option. I am almost certain that we will be taking that option. I have no interest in putting my child on a subway to get to school and the prospect of spending four hours a day driving my kid to & from school is not appealing (a 35 minute one way subway commute will take about an hour each way driving in rush hour).

      I have a high school student, so I don’t need to do much in the way of supervision. They also don’t “need” to be in a classroom to focus. The only real concern is with their AP Chemistry class – I don’t think I replicate a real chemistry lab in my kitchen.

      This whole “wont let the science dictate” nonsense is beyond infuriating. My head exploded when I saw that one. There was industrial-level cursing of the Administration coming out of my mouth. Yes, please, let them also deny the science of gravity as they check out the views from the top of a skyscraper.

  16. SomeChick says:

    If science doesn’t matter, then why bother with school at all?

  17. Ai says:

    Insanity.

  18. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    Maybe she needs a can of Goya beans.

  19. Tammy says:

    All I know is we are homeschooling our kids next year. November can’t come soon enough.

  20. Sharonk says:

    Harvard should take back her diploma.

    • el Annoy says:

      She has a degree from Harvard? Mannnn…. forget those so-called fancy schools. What a bunch of malarkey. I’m more proud of my Alma mater state school thinking about it.

      • (TheOG) jan90067 says:

        Let’s NEVER forget how many of these people get in because a relative made a YUUUUGE “donation” to the school, or built a bldg. on campus. Those idiots could NEVER get in on merit. Said relative literally “buys” the degree. It has always happened; the latest “Varsity Blues” scandal is just the one we heard about out in the open.

      • Imogene says:

        Meh, I went to Yale and you’d be surprised. Money can buy a lot is what I will say.

    • NoWords says:

      Wait, she has a diploma from Harvard?! That has to be a joke, right? I mean, she works for *Trump* and Fox news. Trump doesn’t hire smart people and Fox news is a propaganda machine. Lmao.

      Edit: I looked it up. Harvard AND Georgetown law. I guess this proves that having an ivy league degree doesn’t necessarily mean you’re intelligent.

      • Giddy says:

        She is obviously book smart and can regurgitate facts and figures. However, I don’t consider her intelligent because she is such a Trump true believer. Actually, I don’t consider anyone working in the Trump WH to be intelligent. At her first press conference she promised to never lie from that podium. Bullsh*t!.

      • Esmom says:

        I don’t know if I buy that she is a real Trump believer. I think she thought she could do the better than anyone else at this job and once she made the decision not to let truth get in her way she was free to excel.

        Sarah Sanders, I thought, was a good example of someone who is a true Trump believer. Because at times you could see how Trumpism conflicted with her own worldview and it pained her. Kayley has no conflicting emotions, she’s just amoral to the core.

      • Chelle says:

        @Esmom – Agree. Kayleigh is just an opportunist. Speaking of law degrees, Laura Ingraham has a law degree too. Use to clerk for Justice Thomas.

      • Nic919 says:

        I would double check if she actually has anything from Harvard since she only attended one year. Most schools don’t give you anything for that.

        Also keep in mind that she comes from money and Ivy League schools make exception for rich kids. She is a cold blooded liar, but she doesn’t really do much but stonewall, lie and speak fast. If you asked her to analyze something without her written notes her mind would explode.

  21. TiredMomof2 says:

    Our school district just announced we are going back 5 days a week, full time. We are in a state that started out well, but after enough covidiots harassed our state health director (Dr. Acton), it seems like our governor caved and opened up a lot and failed to mandate statewide masks. I know a lot of what I consider well-educated parents who are sending their kids back. Not me. My kid’s HS has 2400 students and they also dropped the physical distancing rule from 6 feet to 3 feet. We are doing online for the first semester.

    • EMc says:

      Wow, I don’t blame you! Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Why on earth would they change the social distancing requirement?! I don’t think our schools have the support to institute any type of successful social distancing or plan of action at all, truthfully. It might start out that way for the first few weeks but let’s be real. Our teachers are buying their own tissues and supplies as it is, do we really think they’ll get the supplies and time and support to clean their classrooms? I dont know about everyone else’s but I know my 7 year old isnt going to remember to social distance. He’s going to see friends and immediately want to wrestle and carry on.

    • Lady D says:

      There are 2400 in your son’s school? My high school grad class had 52 of us. Three didn’t graduate.

  22. KellyRyan says:

    Easy bet on how soon she’ll be removed. Drumpf will hire anyone he believes will bring results. She isn’t, and no one else can within his administration of lackey’s.

  23. 10KTurtle says:

    A lawyer here in the Tampa area is providing free assistance to teachers who want to prepare a living will, and I want to say good on him but [LOUD SOB] whyyyyy are we here?!?
    Allow me to predict the future: Florida schools reopen fully because DeSantis will force it, and then close within a month. Cheeto Mussolini acts like he can just will this into happening, but school children do not exist in a vacuum. How many substitute teachers are available for when all the teachers are out sick the second week of reopening? Do schools even have substitute cooks, janitors, maintenance staff, bus drivers, etc.? There won’t be enough healthy adults to keep things going.

  24. Sean says:

    I recently listened to an interview with Bill Schultz, who used to host the late night show “Red Eye” on Fox. He dated Kayleigh when they both worked at the network. According to Bill, Kayleigh was “very Christian” and always prided herself on being “honest and truthful”. He claimed she was also a “Never Trumper” and absolutely despised Trump. He’s flabbergasted she’s now working in his administration.

    By the way, despite being “very Christian”, she and Schultz had a sexual relationship because Jesus “never outright condemned premarital sex”. She also wore enough bronzer that her bedsheets looked like the shroud of turin. Very honest and truthful indeed.

  25. Dazed and confused says:

    I teach science and I am disgusted by every bit of her statement.

    Ball players are in a bubble to keep them safe but head on back to school kiddos.

  26. Case says:

    The whole situation is beyond words at this point, isn’t it? States abandoning enforcing rules meant to protect citizens, reopening businesses and schools when cases are far worse than they were in March/April, etc. I don’t even know what to say. It’s horrifying and heartbreaking and infuriating and I’m so sorry for all the parents who need to figure out what to do this school year.

  27. Marigold says:

    She is an opportunist. She used to be against Trump until it was pointed out to her that he would win and it could be good for her.

    • Christina says:

      Yes, Marigold. And her ability to organize Trump’s brain in a binder and spout his garbage on cue will make her a lot of money and secure her place in the New Republican Party ecosystem. She understands how to say what Trump’s supporters want to hear, and she will work efficiently to keep white supremacy in power.

  28. Teebee says:

    The crisis-deniers are high-larious!

    Of course the catchy headline is controversial. But the naysayers they say NO! Give the rest of the quote, media-biasers-hoax-promoters! So angry and indignant this lot. She said, science shouldn’t stand in the way of us. Science is on our side! Follow the science! Open the schools! But use the science! The science knows! The science knows allllll!

    Which taken at face value, the whole of her statement; she be saying Trump want schools open, the science supports that kids won’t suffer as much if they get it, we don’t really give a shit, as we’ve always demonstrated, we’re going to interpret the science in a way that serves the administration, we’re going to blame all y’all reporters for media bias anyways, we always do things first and ask forgiveness later, so suck it.

    Or at least that’s the gist of it.

    Just wait. Some kids will be forced back. Kids will get or bring it into the schools and spread it around. Some kids will get really sick. Some people who the kids spread it to will get sick. They will spread it. Some will die. Some will go to the media and say they shouldn’t have opened the schools. They’ll close the schools. The pandemic will last twice as long as it should have. No one will take responsibility. Wash rinse repeat.

  29. HK9 says:

    I’ve been reading on IG that the White House has ordered the reporting the hospitals have been sending to the CDC now go straight to the White House. Is that true and if so, can they really do that? If it is true, this is going to be a huge deal because this will be an official cover up of everything and they will manipulate the numbers to pretend everything is ok when it’s not.

    • Giddy says:

      It is true that they have ordered the hospitals to report directly to the WH. My hope is that the hospitals will comply, but send to the CDC also. Somehow there needs to be a check on the lies that Trump will spin if no other entity gets those reports.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And that they release their data daily, publicly, to all the press.

      • liz says:

        My understanding is that the CDC is still getting the data, but has been ordered not to release it to the public. The public data that will be available will be at the state level – a lot of States also require daily/weekly bed counts to be reported to the State Department of Health. So Cuomo will continue to report the number of positive tests, hospitalizations and deaths, but DeSantis will cover up those numbers.

    • Jaded says:

      A ton of information has also been wiped from the CDC website. This is beyond scary and I’m thankful every damn day that I live in Canada and the border continues to be closed.

  30. shanaynay says:

    I’ve said it like a million times. DUMP is trying to kill all of us! DUMP doesn’t give a S*^T about anybody besides himself and his family. And all his a** kissing minions are too busy sucking up to DUMP, and following his every word. They are all a disgrace, and should be ashamed of themselves. They have clearly sold their souls to the DEVIL himself!!!!

    I personally believe that any one who votes for this madman lunatic clearly needs to have their heads examined. !!!

  31. Leah says:

    So tired of that bubblehead. Go work for Fox News instead.

  32. adastraperaspera says:

    Mitch McConnell is in Kentucky this week, undoubtedly to hand out bags of cash to local toadies who will insure his election. He could stop Trump right now, but he won’t. The fact that he shut down the Senate has broken our government. Blood is on his hands. If you can, please give a donation to his opponent today.

    Amy McGrath
    https://amymcgrath.com/

  33. Ariel says:

    You know how in Silence of the Lambs the warden punishes Lecter by playing a televangelist show in his cell?
    The blond spokesmodel should be sent to prison, and have to listen to herself spout ridiculous, insane statements until the day she dies.

  34. Veronica S. says:

    She knows exactly what she’s doing. This isn’t true ignorance, it’s cultivated ignorance. It’s an intentional, methodical destruction of truth and confidence in the reality people see around them. Principles have nothing to do with it – people like her don’t believe in anything. They see something like as an opportunity to climb the ranks, assure their place in the coming anarchy, and make lots of money doing it. She, like Miller, knows it’s better to be helping the butcher hold others down than be the one at the end of his knife. They are some of the most dangerous people you will ever encounter.

  35. TeamMeg says:

    I just watched the clip and it seems like she made a Freudian slip—anyone else get that impression? To me, based on her follow up comments, it sounds like she meant to say “The science *does* not stand in the way of this.” Either way, she sure blew it on this one.

    • sa says:

      I agree. In context it’s clear that she’s saying that the science supports opening schools. We can pick that apart all day, but it’s disingenuous to act like she’s saying that we should ignore the science (which is what they’re doing, but it’s not what she’s *saying* here).

  36. Kim says:

    I’m a first grade teacher. Next year will be a sh$t show of opening and closing of schools. My district (biggest in Idaho) plans to make the final decision of how to open ONE week before school starts. We still don’t know how we are expected to work with half of the class on alternate days and yet provide instruction for students at home simultaneously. Society relies and banks on teachers using their own time and working for free to pull this off. With budget cuts.

    • Dazed and Confused says:

      That is scary and frustrating. My governor just pushed school openings from mid-Aug to after Labor day and we were so relieved. We have 3 options districts can go with — on-site, remote or hybrid. On site is the one that scares me the most, because they are saying fewer than 45 people in a room is fine.

      Good luck to you!!

  37. goofpuff says:

    McEnany = Queen of the Karens

  38. Meg says:

    No surprise science is the enemy, its how they talk about climate change

  39. Lola says:

    Does anyone else find it alarming that she mentions children being abused at home as a factor in sending them to school? Depression etc? I understand absolutely that these are factors and there has been an increase in domestic violence etc (some “facts” this administration is willing to believe or rely on, as it suits them). I find that appalling. Address societal factors that contribute to that! But to use it as a justification to open schools?

  40. MsIam says:

    I thought Huckabuck was a terrible press secretary but this one? Man, she’s a true embarrassment. But she seems like the type Trump wants to have around, another yes-Barbie doll.

  41. Valerie says:

    “We can’t let science get in the way of this. Just look at the science!”

  42. BillyPilgrim says:

    Upon reading the headline I assumed this Kayleigh trick, because of the way she spells her name, was a Bravo housewife of somewheres.
    When it comes down to it Mmkayleigh is a just a Bravo Whitehouse trick.

  43. Jen says:

    What’s the point of sending them to school if you’re undermining that education anyway?

  44. MaryContrary says:

    We live in CA-Newsom just announced no in person school if your county is on the watchlist -which ours is. Thank God. I was starting to panic about having to potentially send my kids back. Hopefully the online will be better than the spring-that was pretty terrible.

  45. Sue M says:

    Science should be the ONLY reason schools are re-opened or remain closed, depending on the scientific evidence. Right now the evidence is strongly on the stay closed side. And no, all the western countries are not re-opening their schools. Here in British Columbia, Canada, schools were closed completely from March 13th until June 1st. There was online learning from mid-April. Then on June 1st in my city, high school continued with online learning plus they had one hour per day approximately in school. And in-school attendance was optional. Some families just didn’t want their kids going into school at all. All online and in-school classes ended June 19th. There is summer school and I think it is online this year but we don’t do summer school so I am not certain. Regular school starts in September. We do not know yet what form that will take. But I can assure you there will not be regular attendance with all kids going back and school being like it was in the ‘before times’. Likely for high schoolers something like 1 day per week so 1/5th of the kids are in school at a time, with the rest online. Or half the school attends one week, and half the next week, and again online learning. Either way or another way it is going to mean a need for more teachers. We already have teacher shortage so don’t know where the extra teachers will come from. Maybe previously retired teachers will step up. And, BC is the best managed jurisdiction in North America, and up there with the best (but not the very best) in the world. If we can’t open schools safely, there is definitely not a single state the US that would be able to. I bet even if US schools reopen, many parents won’t risk the health of their kids and people at home, and will not send them. C19 is now a fact of life. It is our new normal and we will need to adapt to that however difficult it is. And is it difficult and sad.

  46. bettyrose says:

    The U.S. is soooo FKed! Schools should NOT reopen until this is under control, but let’s be clear that schools staying closed limits the productivity of SIP workers with children and hurts our economy. So every idiot who says “open us back up” is actually fighting to tank our economy along with their blood lust for killing Americans. GAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!

  47. Likeyoucare says:

    Schools in Asia are gradually opening for students base on level of students age and we treated the situation like we are in a pandemic like any normal sane country would. Teachers took students temperature before they enter the school gate, they wore mask, wash their hands after entering the gate, their desk are separated with 1 metre gap from others, the teachers need to sanitize the classroom everyday. It is a new norm.
    If the goverment couldnt make their people to wear mask and what the use for opening school?

  48. O says:

    I am in Canada and hear daily from people who call mask wearers sheeple and call the pandemic a hoax. There is a daily fight for science and facts and it’s exhausting, I can’t imagine life in the states. I’m in a city where 200 cases is making everyone start to squirm and worry about school opening. As a teacher and my mom my vote is for 2 days a week

  49. Kkat says:

    I’m very thankful I’m in California and have a governor who isn’t a moron.
    Our lovely governor mandated all counties that all private and public schools in counties that are on the watchlist must do distance learning only for the fall
    The counties have to be off the monitoring list for 14 days. So it may end up being for the whole year

  50. Keessie says:

    I’m sorry but then it comes to Corona, the US has no peer nations in Western society. And even here schools opening is disputed and is only happening under pressure of the same stupid reasoning.