We didn’t even cover half of all of the Karen Eruptions over the past three months. Karens have really been feeling themselves this year, and honestly, I believe some of these cases are just sad, pathetic morons desperate for attention. So it is with this woman, Amber Lynn Gilles, aka one of the first Starbucks Karens. Different Karens were caught at Starbucks instigating sh-t, but Amber Lynn was a special case. She went to a San Diego Starbucks without a mask and a barista named Lenin Gutierrez refused to serve her. So she took his photo and put on Facebook to whine about him. What happened next is one of the reasons why the internet can stay: people felt bad for Lenin and someone started a GoFundMe as a “virtual tip jar” to raise $20,000 for Lenin. The page has now raised over $100K. And Amber Lynn wants half of it.
The San Diego woman who berated a Starbucks barista online last month after she refused to wear a mask inside is now saying she deserves over half the $100,000 raised for the employee, according to local news outlet KGTV. Lenin Gutierrez, a Starbucks barista, refused to serve Amber Lynn Gilles last month because Gilles did not have a face covering on, despite California law requiring people wear masks in public.
Gilles went on to shame Gutierrez on social media, posting a photo of him on Facebook and writing, “Meet lenen [sic] from Starbucks who refused to serve me cause I’m not wearing a mask. Next time I will wait for cops and bring a medical exemption.”
In response, Gutierrez received an outpour of support, and a GoFundMe campaign acting as a virtual tip jar for the barista has gone on to raise over $100,000.
However, Gilles is now demanding that half that money belongs to her for “discrimination.”
“It was discrimination and everybody is OK with it and enabling and rewarding that behavior,” she told KGTV on Tuesday. “I get shortness of breath, dizziness and it messes with the heartbeat,” she told the local news station. “And I do have asthma as well, and I do get mask-acne. So there’s several things going on and not only that but it doesn’t even work.”
KGTV reported that Gilles provided two documents to the outlet to prove her exemption. The first was a pelvic exam from 2015, with results that say “probable exophytic fibroid arising from the anterior wall of the uterus measuring 2.9 cm size,” and “simple 2.5 cm left ovarian cys.” The second document was a handwritten note on letterhead from a local chiropractor, who claimed that Gilles “has underlying breath conditions that prevent her from wearing a mask or any type of facial covering whatsoever.” The identity of Gilles’ chiropractor was not shared. Gilles defended using a note from a chiropractor for a breathing-related medical exemption, telling KGTV, “They are dedicated to providing non-invasive personalized care and treatment. They are real doctors.”
Gilles, who is reportedly looking to start her own GoFundMe to raise money for legal fees should she decide to sue, said that she has no remorse for the Starbucks incident. “No absolutely not. I feel like I need the apology,” she said. “I’ve been discriminated against, I’m the one who’s sick.”
THE DOCTORS’ NOTES!!!! LMAO. I mean, I was thinking this bitch was a crisis actor looking for attention, but then I watched the little clips of her in the video below, and now I think she’s A) a complete idiot and B) looking for attention. She’s not being used by MAGA operatives, she’s just really this f–king stupid. She took something really nice – people celebrating a barista for enforcing mask laws – and turned it into her narcissistic a–hole drama. I keep wondering… how do these Karens even *function* in life? They’re dangerously stupid.
Screencaps from video, Facebook.
eye roll….the Costco guy came out with a similar sob story yesterday.
Chiropractors diagnose “breath” issues? Gmafb
Right?! What’s next, some moron Karen getting a doctor’s note from a vet because THey’Re DocToRs??
Hold on. A vet is not a people dr but they get a 4 year bachelors degree in veterinary medicine. They can prescribe meds and do surgery. Chiropractors cannot.
Yeah, I’d trust a vet over a chiropractor any day. A vet is a medical doctor for animals.
Ok so she got proof from an “ass dr” and a “back dr.” That doesn’t prove anything.
Well… to be fair… maaaaaaybe it proves she should be going commando in a kilt?
(though I’m not a doctor so I may be wrong about this whole breathing thing, maybe I’ve been doing it wrong all these years…)
She clearly talks out of her ass maybe she breathes from there as well?
ass dr? did I miss where there info from her pelvic exam/fibroids came from a proctologist?
Getting into vet school is much harder than getting into med school, at least in the US, because there are so few of them.
Also, this woman is so stupid it is hard to imagine how she functions in the world. Her reasoning is like saying that white supremacists and neo-nazis deserve half the donations given to the Southern Poverty Law center or the Anti-Defamation League because they create the work for them.
sadly, some do even though they should not (those are the ones who think actual medical care can be handled w/manipulation). When I worked in a local hospital’s Pulmonary & Critical Care dept, we had a few patients admitted via the ER who had stopped using their asthma meds bc their chiropractor was managing their asthma
asthmatics are encouraged to wear face masks when going out as are patients w/COPD & CF
dying at the fibroids being a medical reason to be exempt from mask mandates
I am dying at the fibroids being a reason to not wear one as well! I have 12 fibroids and I still wear a mask in 110 degrees in AZ! Cry me a river lady! The day my doctor tells me that my 12 fibroids are going to cause me issues with breathing with a mask is the day Hell is freezing over!!!
Right? My chiropractor helps with a lot of my issues but she’s never tried to talk to me about my asthma. Speaking of, I have severe asthma and I have no issues wearing a mask. Also, my chiropractor wears a mask.
Some chiropractors can be dubious – this can include making claims that are both outside their scope of practice and untrue. One chiropractor told a patient of mine that her lack of flexibility was due to gluten binding up her insides. He advised a very restrictive diet, and sold her some supplements. I know of multiple chiropractors who sell their own supplement blends to their patients to help with medical and emotional issues.
It’s less the note from the chiropractor and more the unrelated PELVIC exam from 2015 that gets me. Like, was she just trying to prove her credentials as a white woman to make extra sure the news station would notice?
Honey, the issue is that you’re acting LIKE a baby, not that you could (theoretically) HAVE a baby.
Wow is that crazy! She doesn’t deserve any of the money!
This isn’t going to cost him any money fighting against her, is it?
Any lawyer who would take her case is sketchy because it will get tossed. She has no claim to that money.
I think she’s talking about suing the GoFundMe page creator for defamation, rather than the barista who benefits from the donations.
Let’s just say this, with the lawyer and court fees she’s going to end up with net zero even if she prevails. She’s a total idiot . Maybe she can be Kaylee Macaroni’s sidekick.
And if she doesn’t want to wear a mask she can go through the drive through. Or get whatever she needs delivered. Problem solved.
I even wear a mask going through the Bux drive-through, also gloves LOL, and I keep Clorox wipes in my car. I’m determined not to get exposed or expose anyone. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
@C-Shell me too, through any drive-through. But, not gloves and maybe I should? And @Snazzy, I hope not. Urgh. If ever there was a time for the “it’s not always about you” it’s this woman and too many others.
I also wear a mask in the drive through. This woman just wants attention.
Or she can make her own damn coffee at home!
The stubborn ego on this omg.
The government says you have to wear a mask, the stores say you have to wear a mask, science says it does not impact ability to breathe except on very rare and severe cases, an individual says you have to wear a mask, the public loudly and financially supports the individual Gilles tried to shame and yet she. Still. Thinks. She’s. Right.
Girl, the world has spoken and at every level you are wrong.
Also lolling at mask acne and ovarian cysts as a reason not to wear her mask. Thanks Gilles, I’d like to be at risk of dying because you’re so vain.
It really is unreal. Not just stubbornness and stupidity and selfishness but sheer greed.
My sweet 92 year old dad, who has congestive heart failure, 2 blood clots in one lung and residual fluid from a recent bout of pneumonia, and is ON OXYGEN, has NO PROBLEM wearing a mask to go out to his doctors’ appointments or to take a short walk in the corridor of our condo for a bit of exercise. But this…this… &^*%$ who has “probable cysts (?!! WTF does THAT have to do w/breathing???) and “mild asthma diagnosed by a CHIRO” and “mask acne” (!? again!) DOES have a problem???
I literally just can’t cope with the stupid.
YAY for your dad, what a trooper!
“the world has spoken and at every level you are wrong”
OMG this! So much this! Not only is this woman wrong and incredibly self-centered & entitled, but she’s also greedy AF for trying for this money grab. Add to that those asinine and laughable “doctor’’s” notes and she has achieved *peak* Karen level. smh
@detritus, that was my favorite excuse!! Mask acne! Maybe you should use a clean mask and maybe, just maybe, wash your f#cking face Karen!! What truly that has me upset about these Karen and Kens is that one Ken pulled a gun on a Florida man, that was a customer and asked him where his mask was since Walmart stipulates all customers wear one. Then months ago, a poor security guard at a dollar type store told a woman and her children that masks were required, a white woman BTW. She became so angry, the security guard was black, that she went home, grab her disgusting husband/baby dad, and they returned with a gun, shot him and killed him. A father working a security job with a wife and 4 children. So these thugs, and probably racists POS that killed a hard working family man because he asked why the wife and children were not wearing state sanctioned masks and refused them entry to shop. A death for the refusal over a mask. People are disgusting and I am beginning to hate some of these Americans for their behaviour.
@NatureLover this is the story that you’re remembering. All involved were of the same race. I have many relatives in Michigan so this was much-discussed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/coronavirus-masks-dollar-store-shooting-flint-Michigan.html
Her fibroids can’t breathe?
I’ve heard of pelvic breathing but I don’t think that’s what it meant.
Lol
LMFAO. That was the laugh I needed today.
I mean queefs are real but have no bearing on wearing a mask on your damn face lol!
Well one must have proper hole to hole airflow. I’m guessing the mask prevents proper queefage.
I have 12 fibroids and I breathe fine with a mask! LMFAO!
Same! I struggled with them longer than I should have before getting a proper diagnosis, but I don’t recall any related respiratory issues. Now, if a Starbucks employee tried to withhold my ibuprofen maybe we’d have an issue.
I’m don’t have any civil words for this person.
Please don’t think all chiropractors are as unprofessional as this one. I’m a chiro and I’d never give a note like this to anyone. That’s not our realm of practice and COVID is too dangerous to dismiss. This chick is crazy. Her sister in law posted about her and said she’s a grifter. She doesn’t deserve the money because Amber outed herself. She filmed Lenen and posted it on social media to make his life difficult.
Not sure her reasoning behind asking her chiropractor for a note about breathing. I certainly would not ask a chiropractor for that. I know many chiros and they are great people. Wonder if this one doesn’t believe in mask wearing and therefore was okay in giving her the note?
Probably because no one else would. There is a loud contingent of anti-mask chiros, who are willing to buck local ordinances because of their beliefs. We’ve been fighting for months in my FB group with anti-maskers.
I wondered if she swiped letterhead on a visit and forged it.
I wonder the same. Or if she’d received a letter from the chiropractor regarding something else (say for example non-payment on her account), it’s easy enough to scan it and cut & paste the letterhead into a new document.
There are lots of shady chiropractors, so I doubt it.
She probably stole a piece of letterhead or altered a real letter from the chiropractor’s office. She seems to think that she’s smarter than most and that no one will notice. If the name of the chiropractor gets released, you know the office will deny it, so she won’t release it.
@TheOriginalMia
I found this disturbing, too. My father was a chiropractor and would never diagnose “breath issues” especially using vague terms on a hand-written note. Very unprofessional.
All of this is assuming that some other person actually wrote those notes.
I feel that this woman is truly mentally ill.
A raging case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder if I ever saw one.
I think those statistics include people with depression and/or generalized anxiety disorder, which are mental health conditions but not sociopathic. What always gets me about that 1 in 5 is that 4 out of 5 people don’t suffer from either depression or anxiety which doesn’t correlate with my personal knowledge of people.
I read in the U.S. that between 1-4% of the population are psychopaths. I feel like all of them are out and about bemoaning the state of things. If Trump wins the next election I might become one too.
I don’t think she is. I think she is just completely self-centered and ignorant. She literally cannot fathom or entertain any opinion beyond her own. That’s not mental illness – that’s privilege, ignorance, selfishness, narcissism. Princess syndrome is not a mental illness.
But in all seriousness, there are too many actions being dismissed these days under the theory that someone is mentally ill. And it’s a theory that is almost exclusively provided to white, middle class or richer people. I know you’re no trying to excuse her behavior, but the fact remains that a mental illness is too often the excuse given to pardon the behavior of the middle-class and the wealthy, and usually only the white folks in that category.
Well, let’s get real here. Nobody donated any of this money to you. It was donated specifically to someone who stood up to you against what you were you doing. Entitled people need to go away.
All these “Karen’s” are clearly delusional. They need some serious help.
This one only smells money and wants half, lol. I’d have some choice words for her.
Mask acne? The f*ck? Wash your face and implement a 12-step skincare routine like the rest of us, boo.
“12-step skincare routine”
Oh, SNAP!!!
Soooo good!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLing
I burst out loud at that one. I just want to say I shouldn’t have to wear pants. It makes my big Ole butt sweat and I get bum zits where my underwear hits. So it’s official. I am fanny out in public. Honestly I laughed at this pathetic woman but also my gosh our country has fully gone down the sitter of stupidity.
Fanny in the UK means something else but I am dying and fully support fannies out for less buttne and general airing out purposes
@Terersa, I really needed a laugh today and you have given me a good chuckle!!
Gold!
Well I’m just glad it was my ovarian cyst making me short of breath and not the fact that I was using the pandemic as an excuse to sit on my ass all day. Thanks for affirming my bad habits, Amber! Can you get your fake doctor to write me a note, too?
I have seen enough chiropractor’s on Facebook lately feeding into Q-anon theories and conspiracies that makes me thing her Chiropractor did write that note… they should not be able to call themselves doctors. Sorry if that offends some chiropractors but I have only met one that didn’t try to sell me supplements or argue that essential oils are better than vaccines. Honestly. Done with them.
I’m with you there. I know there are a lot of good chiropractors who are looking only to help their patients, and as far as back spasms, deep tissue massage, etc, they’re probably fine. But when they try to treat everything under the sun with “manipulation” and “oils” I’m out. I actually got of out jury duty once because the only medical witness was a chiropractor and I said I saw skeptical. Multiply skeptical by 1,000 in this instance, “breath” problems, indeed!
Mine gave me a lecture on how sunscreen causes skin cancer and let me know she’s an anti-vaxxer at my visit on Wednesday so…I will not be returning.
Medical doctors too. I know one doctor, who happens to be the daughter of the founder of scientific American, who has been posting tons of conspiracy crap about masks and how vitamins and hyperbaric chambers can easily treat COVID.
mask-acne huh? ffs
I too have asthma and acne…I’m just exfoliating more often now. I’m so exhausted by people claiming that asthma prevents them from wearing a mask.
yeah, we know Pink has asthma…yet she posted herself wearing 3 (!!) layers of masks, saying “if I can, you can” kind of thing.
So ….right on, SusieQ
Asthmatic here too, though well-controlled. And yes, I can wear a mask just fine.
And even if the mask did give her a little panicky feeling (as an asthmatic, I do sometimes have to tell myself I can breathe just fine), she’s getting a flippin’ coffee. Not an essential outing, and not an outing that takes more than a couple minutes. She had so, so many other options.
Discrimination? Puh-leze. If you are so delicate you can’t wear a mask, you shouldn’t be leaving the house right now in the middle of a pandemic. End of story.
Asian cultures have been using masks for ages. Doctors use them for hours while performing delicate operations. Stop with the pseudoscience.
Bitch please. I have cancer and will be wearing my mask for 9 hours of chemo on Friday
You’re a savage. Keep it up and hope all goes well on Friday.
You go girl. You got this!
You’re a rock star Maplesbass – good luck with the chemo!
I have asthma and other medical issues. Yes, masks are uncomfortable, but they don’t hinder my breathing whatsoever.
A key thing she’s missing here (other than the ENTIRE POINT of why this young man received money to begin with) is that Starbucks and pretty much all major chains and stores make reasonable accommodations for people who genuinely cannot wear a mask indoors (which, mind you, is a TINY percentage). She could’ve gone to a drive-thru Starbucks, or ordered ahead and just ran in quickly to pick it up wearing a mask.
All of these people complaining it is their right to not wear a mask indoors — no, it’s not if it’s private property. Almost all stores offer curbside pickup right now for those who are vulnerable, as well as those unable or unwilling to wear a mask. Shut up.
@case. Agree. Have medical issues and at times a mask might be an issue….so I don’t go out unless it’s an emergency during that time. Didn’t realize coffee was an emergency. This woman is ridiculous. Thanks for the laughs everyone from the great comments. And virtual hugs to anyone struggling who might need one.
Exactly! At this point I think all these people are doing it for attention, hoping for that “viral” fame.
I enjoy two things about this story:
A) If she (or anyone) is too medically fragile to wear a mask, then she should DEFINITELY be skipping non-essential trips to places like Starbucks. We’re in a pandemic, dumpling, and apparently you’re an extremely delicate flower.
B) No one is the boss of her–not Starbucks, not scientists, not Californian law! But she clearly feels somebody (the cops? Judges?) should FORCE that barista to hand over half of the money he has been gifted by private donors. I mean… sure, lady! Makes sense!
Chiropractors are not medical physicians. I said it and I have no regrets. They don’t go to school as long as medical doctors do and they don’t perform similar clinical work as physicians. Her symptoms (“I get shortness of breath, dizziness and it messes with the heartbeat,”) are more similar to having a panic attack than actual symptoms of something else. Finally I’m beginning to think ALL Karens have a personality disorder and freaking out about masks makes diagnoses so much easier.
The Karens and Kevins are the short sighted idiots that prolong this entire ordeal. 4-6 weeks of 100% mask wearing and we could get to where Germany is. As someone in covid-recovery, sometimes I check the NextDoor App for a heads up what/where to avoid mask-less businesses as well as where traffic is backed up by construction. When someone reported that a local Dunkin Donuts was going mask-free, we had people go TIP Dunkin Donuts for NOT using masks.
Apparently, wearing masks worked so well that a few but very loud people started saying COVID-19 is a hoax because infection and death rates are so low. There are morons everywhere… Greetings from Germany!
She has a FB page but she stopped commenting/posting and deleted her shaming of the barista but if you scroll down – the girl is a conspiracy nut. There is a post about how you can be tracked via your phone in the Health app -in those comments someone said she uses a different FB page now because of all the hate. She linked to it and I spent some time scrolling. The woman believes a lot of crazy stuff. She is convinced the government is trying to track people to the point she bought a special bag for her phone.
She also lost custody of her two children. She posted a video of her son to prove he had tics and said it was because her ex-husband had the kids vaccinated against her wishes. The son is asking her to not post the video and stop recording him and she says “I have to show the doctor this because something is wrong “ all while this child begs her to stop.
Yeah I posted below as well about her FB pages. I’m glad someone else saw him. This woman is a special entitled sort of jack hole.
Well, she’s right that you can be tracked by your phone. It’s just hilarious that she thinks it can only be done through the HEALTH app. The thing is literally a GPS device with homing services on it. That’s what cracks me up about conspiracy theorists – even when they’re a little right about something, they’re usually still wrong.
I know you can’t use foul language in total so let’s just say:
pathetic
stupid
moron
attention seeking
whiney
deplorable
irritating
etc.
Love you Kaiser!
Mentally ill people are being weaponized by propaganda on Facebook and other platforms. Some reports say that over 60% of all people who joined extreme groups on FB did it because FB steered them there. Antivax mommy sites are the gateway drugs for this. Their outbursts are creating the kind of division Trump needs to steal the election.
“Facebook knew algorithms divided users but execs killed fixes”
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-knew-algorithms-divided-users-execs-killed-fixes-report-2020-5
I have fibroids and last time I checked they were located in the uterus- not the lungs.
In the ancient world, hysteria was thought to be caused by the uterus moving around the body. I guess that’s what happened here.
Brilliant!
Obviously this woman is Insane.
The story is even weirder. She came in, Lenin said he couldn’t serve her without a mask, she left. She then returned to the store a couple minutes later ranting and raving and took his picture. That’s why he looks kind of confused.
Also, Lenin didn’t start the GoFundMe page so I don’t understand the legal standing (which there isn’t) and wonder if any lawyer would go near this case. Personally, I’d like to see Lenin share some of the tips with whoever was on shift with him that day because it seems like any one of them could have been the target of this nonsense.
No lawyer with any sense or knowledge would take the case, every state in the US has statutes modeled on Federal Rule 11 which provides for sanctions against lawyers who file lawsuits which are frivolous/unwarranted under the law. Which this one clearly is.
Mask acne? Oh please.
I have heart problems and I wear the mask because I know that if covid gets me it’s going to be far worse than not wearing a mask. It could mean death. I had a tube down my throat once (for surgery) and I still remember the burning in my throat after it was taken out. Not something that is worth going through again.
A chiropractor is not a pulmonologist.
Can we stop calling them Karens and call them what they really are? Entitled white women. Their behavior is not cute and doesn’t deserve a cutesy name.
EWW sounds about right!
When this first happened, I went to her Facebook page. And her second Facebook page because she was in FB jail for the first for some reason. She was a jack hole before this. She continues to be a jack hole. She is absolutely this terrible person and she revels in it thinking she is entitled to so much while others are dirt.
Didn’t Adele’s ex from before she was famous sue her for royalties/money off the album she wrote from the pain he caused her. Since he was the cause of the pain those songs were written about, he was entitled to the profits.
Everyone in this woman’s life should be too embarrassed to leave their houses.
What an unbelievable asshole.
The Karens are everywhere these days. They are so loud about their “rights” to wear no masks. One said she couldn’t bc it fogs her glasses up. These people are truly a virus themselves #karenvirus
The temerity of this b!tch… It’s unbelievable!
Also, I’m deaf (genetic, progressive hearing loss, I’m about 25% in both ears and will eventually need bilateral cochlear implants). My hearing aids (which I save up for and use as many years as I can because they cost 7k and aren’t covered by insurance) have an over-the-ear component. That means most masks that go around your ears can’t be worn with these aids. I found a few masks with ties over the back of my head and wear those.
Because others wear masks, I can no longer lip read to supplement my hearing (the aids help but I’m still unable to function in conversations without lip reading). When I went to early vote last week, it was a tense situation (people in line 6′ apart outside in 105 degree heat, someone with a Breitbart mask refusing to either leave or change to a non political mask provided by the polling station because political speech is prohibited at polling locations).
I wanted to get in and out fast but couldn’t understand the instructions from the poll worker about where to walk, which machine to use, what information I was supposed to confirm. Y’all, it was hard. I tried not to cry. I explained that I have a severe hearing impairment. Luckily my husband (who was shepherded in a separate line) saw what was happening across the room and came over to translate for me.
Wearing a mask and functioning in a world where everyone else wears a mask is genuinely a hardship for deaf people like me. I still think it’s entirely necessary and I support mask mandates and it’s clear what the science says.
So when I read about people like this, with her mask acne and cysts and complete nonsense, it makes me so angry. Just…. So much rage.
Lindy, I always appreciate your thoughtful comments here. Sometimes I’m reading something and then look at the avatar and go, “oh, yep!” and other times I see your avatar and have something to look forward to. (Also, as a history nerd, I love your avatar!)
I really appreciate how you describe what you experience here and what it’s like to move through the world from your perspective. It’s educational and inspirational – I want to be more thoughtful as I move through the world, and you generously sharing your experience helps people do that.
I’m sorry you’re having to deal with all this at all, and with it going on longer because of petty selfishness. Take care of yourself – we need more thoughtful badass people like you!
What an incredibly kind thing to say, wow! That made my day. I love this website because I feel the same way–there are so many smart and thoughtful people who comment here and I almost always come away having laughed or having learned something new. Thanks for telling me that–I truly appreciate it! ❤️
I just read something about a deaf individual expressing the problems he is having with masks due to his inability now to read lips. IIRC, he came up with a mask with a clear panel at the mouth to deal with this. I am assuming the clear panel does not decrease the mask’s effectiveness (and can be easily cleaned).
If so, I will make it a point to get one if that will help out those with hearing loss. There is so much nuance to consider, we are all so different. Thank you for your post.
Maybe because my husband is a doctor, and I have a ton of health care providers in my family, but wha? What? Huh? I just read her reasoning for non mask wear to my husband and he’s like “I would throw that b–ch out of my office” He has asthma and wears a mask 12 hours a day. What she has is chronic “look-at-meitis” and maybe a touch of anxiety.
Why the hell would asthma stop you from wearing a mask? You would think that would make you *more* paranoid and aware of COVID19 danger because you’re part of an at-risk demographic. I can understand where it might be harder with the higher end filtering ones, like Vogmask or a true N95 mask, but uh…I travel for a living, and I still manage to wear a mask ten hours a day through airports, on site with customers, and traveling around. I don’t have asthma, but I do have a seriously deviated septum that can impair breathing when congested or in high humidity climates. I still wear the mask. Did it for ten years as an IV tech. Can handle it now. All I get out these people is that they’re basically spoiled children who never grew up.
Eff this lady. She has a GoFund me which I have reported.
I tried to find it but couldn’t – maybe it’s already been removed?
I love your user name!
If she thinks her ovarian cysts are relevant here, she may be wearing her mask in the wrong place.
Wait, you mean the straps on the side aren’t leg holes?
Complete nut.
She is an IDIOT.
Oh PLEASE Karen sue him, and watch the judge throw out the case and make you pay his legal fees for a frivolous lawsuit. Go for it gurl!
The Karens are the ones with pathetic lives who want to be the heroine in their story so they pull this shit to get the other wackos to give them the narcissistic attention they crave. I would never lump them in with people who have real mental illnesses. Karens use mental illness as an excuse when they get caught and cry their fake tears.
Best comment on this post.
Well said
Please explain to me why 1) wearing a mask is not mandatory, and 2) not wearing one is unlawful. I can’t even step foot on the street without a mask lest a police officer write me a fine, imagine entering an apothecary’s, a supermarket or a bleeping Starbucks!
It seems the most entitled Americans are coming out and just making everyone else look stupid and ignorant.
Oh no, not mask acne!! Get this hero a reward for continuing to function in life with such challenges!! xD
If she’s that sick, she shouldn’t be out during a pandemic, certainly not without a mask, and she sure as all heck doesn’t need that caffeine.
She needs to stay home and make her own darn coffee. This would never go anywhere. I want to believe anyway that she would be laughed out of court.
I normally don’t condone violence but this Karen needs to be slapped.
What a waste of perfectly good air and space.
This woman really is a fool and seems to want attention. That barista Lenen should just ignore her and go about his business. Just because you think you’re entitled to someone else’s money doesn’t mean they have to give you any of it, or even acknowledge your idiocy.
This lady needs to get over herself ! People like her make my world more challenging. I don’t want her and those who perceive they are better than other to get any money! For these people….a case of covid or two
Why even bother going inside? Just order through the drive thru window
I was reading about this on. . .reddit, I think. One comment was interesting. If she sues, she legally has no right to that money, because the barista didn’t set up the go fund me himself–someone else did. Technically, she wants to sue for half of a GIFT that was given to him by another person/people. That would be like being gifted a new car and your neighbor sues you for half the amount of the car because they liked it and wanted it too.
I don’t know if this is true–again, reddit comment–but I thought it was interesting to consider.
There’s also the fact that she’s the one who posted, so there isn’t even a defamation suit. She wasn’t being recorded or accused of anything, she posted her own dumbass actions.
This is the hill she’s willing to die on? Really? I don’t get the hate for wearing a mask in public. Yes, it can be a bit uncomfortable especially in the heat and humidity of summer, but suck it up buttercup. Order ahead, do curbside pickup, in and out quickly. I’ll save my sympathy for those who can’t leave their houses because of real health problems, those who literally risk their lives every day in hospitals, schools, grocery stores and, yes, Starbucks so idiots like this can throw temptantrums in public over trival matters. One of my cousins lives in Canada with her family; her parents and siblings in America haven’t seen her in months because the border is closed. My sympathy is with people like her who can’t celebrate birthdays, Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, and other events their friends and family because entitled brats don’t understand that wearing a mask in public can help slow the spread of this virus,which, surprise!, leads to more relaxing of restrictions and greater freedom.
How in the hell can a “pelvic” issue be considered a valid excuse for not wearing a mask?? Can you imagine walking around with an OBGYN report detailing your uterine cysts and shoving it in someone’s face when they try to enforce the mandatory mask rule? I can’t decide if it’s hilarious or completely pathetic. What’s next….the anal polyp excuse? Or…I’m constipated – a mask may cause me to explode!
Amber is just seething with jealous greed. Nice try dumbass.
This is fkng funny to me! She’s a complete moron and clearly mentally unstable. If I remember correctly there were pictures of her in a mask at one of the first protests about reopening and going back to work, lol.
I have endometriosis and I wear a mask. Also, maskne? Everyone is getting it, so suck it up Karen.
I have endo too. And COPD & asthma, allergies, and constant hot flashes and sweats from menopause-neverendess. When I wear a mask I sweat like crazy and struggle to breathe…when I take it off my face is all sweaty and red with deep lines from where it presses into my skin. But I wear the mask every single time I go out in public. And consider it a privilege to have one and a way to help keep myself and others safe. Maskne…lol, too funny 😀
“And I do have asthma as well”
Nope. Calling shenanigans on that BS right now.
Setting aside for a minute the fact that asthma is pretty much the grandaddy of all risk factors when it comes to COVID-19, it’s not an “oh, BTW…” afterthought and no true asthmatic would treat it as such.
Having asthma is exactly why you SHOULD wear a mask, dumb***.
When I saw this yesterday, I was hyperventilating so badly I had to take deep breaths just to calm down, that’s how angry I was. Foolish, stupid, loser. Oh, and I have asthma and allergies as well, and I always wear a mask when I’m in any kind of establishment. I truly hope that Starbucks holds its ground when and if she decides to sue and do NOT settle with this fruitloop sociopath.
As a physician I can attest that about 25% of hospitalized patients are this dumb. I ask myself every other day how some patient survives on the outside. What’s even funnier is most of them are married. There is someone out there for everyone. Lol.
We can all joke, but has anyone done any research into the mortality rate of mask acne? It might be ten times as deadly as Covid-19.
I’ve gotten some mask acne too…
But you know what… The mask covers it!
#wearthedamnmask
One of the funniest things about this is that her sister in law actually created a Go Fund Me too for legal expenses. To hire a lawyer to make her leave her mothers house because she has been living there and refuses to leave.
If you have the link, could you please post it? I would love to see this.
OMG, THAT’S HILARIOUS
I am so worried for the barista. He didn’t ask for any of this. He was doing his job in a terribly stressful time when he shouldn’t have had to be in proximity to other people but was and probably because he needed the money during the stress of this covid-quarantine time. And many of those on the front lines are BIPOC. Now this evil woman comes along and not only traumatized him and put his life and everyone else’s life at risk, then is putting him through stress of trying to take the money that is rightfully his. I hope he has good people dealing with this on his behalf and supporting him because that’s really a lot right now, and he is an innocent victim in all of this. 🙁
These comments give me hope for this country, lol. Thank you, everyone!
I’m so confused – I had so many fibroids that I had to have a myomectomy and it never affected by breathing…I’ve read it 5 times and I don’t understand what one has to do with the other??? It’s not a disability…idk
It’s because your fibroids weren’t complicated by the nightmare of “mask acne.”
It’s a wonder this poor woman was even able to walk into a Starbucks in the first place.
What a sad excuse of a human being. And when did going to Starbucks become a right for people!? Cry us a f*cking river!
I think I speak for everyone when I say, “You can fuck right off, Karen.”
I once got a note from a student from their “herbalist and naturopath” prescribing a few days off school. And, I mean… No, I don’t accept notes from your herbalist saying you can miss school.
Although I actually did let the student make up the work without penalty, because they were clearly someone who was was trying to feel better, even though I have …reservations… about their choice of expert in that journey.
Makes me wonder if she dug up these doctors by saying they’d get a kickback if she got half the money. She was a total jerk, and unless the Dr is an expert in infectious diseases and/or serious breathing issues that can be medically proven in which masks should not be worn… then F her! She’s just greedy b*tch and whiner, imo.
No one of this lifetime has ever experienced living through a deadly pandemic before so we haven’t got much personal history to go on, so I don’t get where all this ‘it’s my right to not wear a mask’ nonsense has come from. Before this did ‘Starbucks Karen’ and all the other Karen’s harbour deep resentment towards masks? Do they have Childhood traumas involving masks? Where did their hatred for masks come from? It seems to be a right wings thing and all these Karen’s are following their leader by being as irresponsible as possible. It’s funny because at the beginning of the lockdown for the first time in years people seemed more united and on the same page. Everyone was scared. But I feel like the tide changed when 1) trump wanted people to go out to work so he could stay rich and it didn’t matter if they died. And 2) when it was clear that ethnic minorities were more affected by the virus than white people. Trump supporters seemed even more eager to go out and breathe all over people all of a sudden.
People in Hades want ice water, or so I have been told. Come to think of it, I would like a winning lottery ticket. Neither is likely to happen.
Slink away Karen please and concentrate on looking less like the fool/lunatic you obviously are.
Excuse my language, but this b1tch can go eat a d**k. I can’t even believe what I’m reading these days! 🤦♀️
I’ve worked in coffee for over 10 years, so this is near and dear to my heart.
I deal with people all day who are tired, grumpy, impatient, and anticipating a long day ahead of them. At my shop, I try to make people feel comfortable, to give them a nice start to their day. I know I’m likely the first person they’re interacting with outside their house – or I’m a much needed break from the office.
As the owner of my shop, I’ve dealt with many Karens throughout my career. I make it a point a point to settle disputes/attitudes as diplomatically as possible, even when I know they’re just being awful.
Since the start of the Pandemic, I’ve had to furlough 90% of my staff. I’ve had to shut down the second location. For 3 months, it’s been myself and our 2 GMs. We’re at the point now where we have 75% of our staff back. We’ve implemented new processes to adapt to health guidelines (my baristas BITCH about how often they have to change out gloves!), product and volume. We’ve worked very hard to bring our employees back home, while keeping our community safe.
Since then, I’ve had to explain to multiple customers that it’s MY policy that everyone needs to wear a mask, and remind them that it is inappropriate to yell at my 20-something barista because they’re upset at CDC guidelines.
If you compromise the safety of my employees – my friends -MY FAMILY- I will refuse you service.
If you talk down to my family – I will refuse you service.
If you don’t wear a mask – I will refuse you service.
If you try to steal from my family – I will jump over my counter and come at you with a portafilter.
People take their anger and aggression out on the service industry routinely. If you can’t act like a fucking adult, you can’t get coffee.
I’m sure there is some bottom of the barrel lawyer out there that will take her case. It will undoubtedly get dismissed, but there will be no cost consequences to Karen. We live in a broken effing system where morons like this get to harass us. God, this woman is awful and incredibly stupid. I hate that we have to even hear about these morons and their stupid grievances. And of course she got a note from a chiropractor; they wouldn’t know how to stick to the scope of their practice if their lives depended on it.
I saw this story and actually got super super super angry!!!! Who the heck are these Karen’s?! GET OUTTTA HERE! I work in LTC and wear a mask 12 hrs a day. Ppl with asthma wear them. Like I’m so sick of stupid entitled ppl