Page Six: Brad Pitt’s argument is that Angelina Jolie was fine with the judge in 2014

Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio back in their car on the set of 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood'

I’ll preface this: I got my law degree from Dick Wolf University, and clearly I do not know the ins and outs of California family law. But I feel like Angelina Jolie’s legal argument is pretty simple: the private judge working on her divorce case has lied and misrepresented his dealings with Brad Pitt’s legal team, and Judge Ouderkirk needs to be off the case. It’s that simple. Jolie’s lawyer (Samantha DeJean) has detailed her concerns in a legal filing this week – Judge Ouderkirk has been involved in lengthy “private divorce” cases involving Brad Pitt’s lawyers for years now, and those cases constitute an ongoing business arrangement. Not only that, but Judge Ouderkirk misrepresented and lied about the business he was getting from Pitt’s lawyers. It’s cut-and-dry. The judge should have recused himself.

Team Pitt’s argument doesn’t make any sense: they claimed that Angelina just wanted the judge off the case because Pitt is winning, and he’s winning because his lawyers are in league with the judge. Team Pitt also claims that Angelina is trying to drag this out, when it’s Pitt who has slow-walked financial disclosures and repeatedly asked for extensions. Anyway, Page Six has another suspicious story from the Pitt camp:

Brad Pitt says that Angelina Jolie should have no issue with the private judge who’s presiding over their divorce battle — because he married them. The Oscar winner hit back after Jolie made a legal bid to get Judge John W. Ouderkirk removed due to his prior relationship with Pitt’s attorney, Anne C. Kiley. Jolie, 45, and Pitt, 56, hired the private judge to manage the case to keep many of its filings sealed.

However, in papers filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on Monday, Jolie asked for Judge Ouderkirk to be replaced, claiming that he was insufficiently forthcoming about cases he’d worked on with Kiley. But this has enraged Pitt’s legal camp, who filed their own papers Thursday, stating it is nothing but a “thinly veiled attempt by Jolie to delay the adjudication of long-pending custody issues in this case.”

The filing said the only losers are the couple’s six children, who are “the individuals hurt most by Jolie’s transparently tactical gambit,” as “they continue to be deprived over a resolution to these custody issues. Therefore Jolie’s motion should be denied.” The papers added: “Judge Ouderkirk has had a well-documented history with the parties to this proceeding their counsel, including, without limitation, being hand-selected by Jolie to preside over the couple’s nuptials in 2014 and serving as a neutral in several matters involving attorneys on both sides of this case.

“Judge Ouderkirk has also accepted additional new engagements involving opposing counsel during the pendency of this action — a fact fully disclosed to Jolie, and still she has never objected to his continued involvement in this proceeding until now. On the contrary, Jolie has stipulated three times to extend Judge Ouderkirk’s appointment.”

In harsh words for Jolie, who has been in a four-year divorce battle with Pitt, the papers said it was “an abrupt cry of judicial bias [that] reeks of bad faith and desperation.”

[From Page Six]

A friend on Twitter claimed that as of last night, Brad’s attorneys hadn’t actually filed anything, so where did this Page Six statement come from? Did Team Pitt just release their “legal filing” to Page Six and not submit it to the court? I have no idea if that’s true or whether it would show up in the court docket, but I 100% believe that this Page Six story came entirely from Brad’s team. The argument of “well the judge was fine with her when we got married” literally has nothing to do with this. It’s a moronic legal argument – “Why aren’t you okay with the judge lying to you and misrepresenting his business interests, you were fine with it six years ago before any of it happened!”

As for the larger argument… there doesn’t seem to be one? Pitt’s lawyer says that the judge did a full disclosure to Jolie’s team and clearly, Samantha DeJean says differently.

Angelina Jolie arrives at the EE British Academy Film Awards, Bafta Awards, at the Royal Albert Hall in London, England, Great Britain, on 18 February 2018.  - NO WIRE SERVICE - Photo: Hubert Boesl/Hubert Boesl/

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  1. Chica1971 says:

    What happened since 2014? What did the judge do or haven’t disclosed since then?

    • Yvette says:

      @Chica1971 … What happened is that Angie changed lawyers. Angie’s first divorce lawyer when she filed in 2016 was Laura Wesser, who was replaced by Samatha Bley Dejean (a child custody specialist) in 2018. I think it’s entirely possible that Judge Ouderkirk ‘did’ submit full disclosure to Angie’s first divorce lawyer, Laura Wesser. And if so, is this a legal technical issue? Could the lawyers here wade in on this?

      • Zut alors says:

        But wouldn’t all the files have been transferred to the new lawyer? Why would Wasser have held on to the disclosures?

      • Yvette says:

        I don’t know … when a lawyer is fired, do they leave their files for the new lawyer or does the new lawyer start from scratch? That’s a question one of the lawyers who frequents this Blog will have to answer.

      • HEMP says:

        Other than attorney work product (like your own handwritten notes), the file belongs to the client and must be turned over at the end of the representation. Even if full payment is still an issue, most states require the file be turned over to the client prior to resolution of a fee dispute.

  2. STRIPE says:

    I saw another article with a bit of (possible) explanation and also explains why she may have agreed to the judge initially:

    Private judges in LA are few and far between, fewer still work in family law, and then there is an even smaller pool of private family law judges who work with famous/high net worth families.

    So it was inevitable that high price family law lawyers in LA work with the same few judges over and over. Had Angelina hired an LA firm, her lawyers would have worked with the judge over and over again as well.

    To me, that explains why she didn’t have an issue at the beginning. So did something happen in the meantime?

    • Sierra says:

      Samantha’s filing clearly points out that the judge had new deals with Brad’s team after 2016 and he didn’t disclose them.

      The judge, Brad & his lawyers didn’t tell anything to Angelina & Samantha until they got caught.

      This is corruption and I am glad it is all coming out.

      • STRIPE says:

        Oh I see – so the issue isn’t that he has the other cases, it’s that he didn’t disclose them? Or both?

      • Sierra says:

        I think both.

      • holly hobby says:

        I don’t really understand her attorney’s reasoning. Those are all separate cases are they not? And if there is a small private family law pool in LA how do they think attorneys can mix up their business?

        I hate to say this but the legal community is small and incestuous. I work in a smaller legal specialty and let me tell you the judges and attorneys all gather and mingle at professional gatherings. They are on first name basis too. That doesn’t stop the judges from ruling against the attorneys though.

        She should have stuck with Wasser.

      • Lady D says:

        Wasser was selling her out. Would you have stayed with a lawyer that was smearing you behind your back and trying to sink your case, while you paid her an exorbitant salary to boot?

  3. Sierra says:

    Thank god Angelina fired Wasser and got Samantha instead.

    Samantha is kicking ass and she is doing it legally with evidence.

    Brad’s team is in deep trouble and they know it. So they are as usual, trying to smear Angelina in the media. Slimy papers like page 6, DailyMail and Sun are working on their behalf. Thankfully this is 2020 where women are fighting back and winning.

  4. Izzy says:

    Thos is the point of nondisclosure and subsequent fact finding. Angelina didn’t KNOW about the judge’s conflicts of interest in 2014 because the judge did not disclose them like he was supposed to. Her new lawyer had to do some serious digging to get at the truth. Why is this so hard to understand? Brad’s argument belongs on Bad Legal Takes.

    • holly hobby says:

      I think the attorney was arguing that they didn’t know about subsequent conflicts thereafter. Not what was disclosed at the time. There are procedural rules and up to that point everything was disclosed. What happened thereafter….

  5. Michelle says:

    Pitt’s ego has been running this since the split & the audacity to say it’s hurting the children? I would say a father traumatizing his kids & emotionally abusing their mother is hurting the children. It’s all about Pitt’s needs not his childrens. He makes me sick.

    • Meg says:

      Right? He has zero self awareness

    • Booie says:

      It is sick but the kids seem to be healthy and happy otherwise thanks to their mom. Of course that’s probably because 4/6 of them are old enough to make their own decisions per CA law and it’s clear they’ve all chosen against seeing him, but nonetheless these kids are slowing cutting out all toxic parentage. I wish them well. Hopefully the twins are given a fair resolution to this mess that their a**hole of a dad is over soon with a judge that he isn’t paying to rule in his favor against his kids’ needs and extend the case for years.

  6. Chickaletta says:

    You don’t “win” in a divorce, especially when there are children involved. You divide assets and compromise and yes, you might get what you want on some issues abd you might not get what you want on others, but you don’t “win”. It’s the separation of two lives and the creation of co-parenting guidelines, not Hungry, Hungry Hippos.

    • Booie says:

      Very true but when dealing with a narcissist man child, that’s what you get. His thinking is “I must win even if my kids are hurting and I have to trash talk my kids mom 24/7 to make myself look good.” She is sadly the only adult parent these kids have.

  7. Sarah says:

    A total aside, I had to click on the ‘Dick Wolf University’ link just to see and I LOVE it. That’s pretty much where I did my law studies too, Thanks for making me laugh today.

  8. Hmm says:

    The file isn’t yet on the court docket so he leaked this to page 666 first or he really didn’t file a damn thing. Creepy and unhinged.

  9. Noki says:

    What a complete waste of time and money, I bet Angelina regrets it big time that they even bothered to finally get married in the first place.

  10. Greta says:

    I’ll keep repeating myself, I posted this yesterday. It’s simple.

    “Angelina knew when she agreed to this judge that he had a professional relationship with Pitts counsel from previous years. The same way he may have had an ongoing or previous business relationship with her lawyer at the time Wasser (though it seems he did not). It was agreed that he would then disclose any future professional and financial relationships on an ongoing basis as per California court rules. The issue is that when he took on this case he didn’t have any matters with these particular lawyers, and should he do so again in the future, it was agreed that he would then disclose any financial and professional relationships, and it would be ongoing disclosure as long as proceedings lasted.

    He failed to do so repeatedly while increasing his business relationship with Pitts counsel where they became a steady customer. The issue is he did not disclose, and it wasn’t just one other case or two, but quite a few and the number seemed to be increasing steadily. It’s basic ethics, and as per their agreement. It’s a bad look. Any lawyer worth their salt would look into it and ask questions, it’s quite simple he had a duty to disclose, he failed in this duty and you have to wonder why, Bley conducted her own query after she realised there were missing disclosures, found this out and is acting as she should, it’s that simple. It’s that he failed to meet minimal ethical standards per court rules, and as per their agreement.”

    Pitts team via page 6 didn’t actually address the substance of her claims and legal arguments, why not engage with her memorandum and file their rebuttal in court. They haven’t filed anything, or at least anything that appears yet, which is strange because Angelina filed papers yesterday and they appear. So I guess page 6 first then court.

    • Mina says:

      Angelina ‘s lawyer files in court and AFTER that she sends a comment , to AP , and correct some who don’t report correctly as they should in journalism “ethic”.
      Spieg and co law firm , all basked in LA club corruption, sends a comment to tabloid Page Sux first , and hopefully will file his motion to deny the disqualification in the court docket .
      No arguments whatsoever , he married them and Jolie was ok !! What this thing has to do with the ethical juridiction of disclosures in californan law ?
      Seriously . He must think the public is stupid and don’t read nor search the news outside Page Sux.

    • Hmm says:

      The court of public opinion is what he wants to “win” 😂 I thought he already won that? He has his precious gold medals so what’s with him still attacking her. I think it’s creepy. He should agree to the new judge if he truly wants this stuff over with.

      What’s even funnier to me is all the paparazzi photos of him trying to get into Angelina’s community gate – highly doubt he was visiting her and the children with all the anger he’s displaying in page 666. I believe he has other friends who live in that area, but it’s again another creepy thing he’s doing – calling the paparazzi on his attention seeking motorcycle so the press can say he’s at Angelina’s. Smh.

      • Meg says:

        Yes winning to brad is PR related not his kids well being, which shows how big of a narcissist he is. he came out even more popular after cheating on jennifer Aniston, he won an oscar after being investigated by the state of California due to a physical altercation with his child, had supervisors monitoring his visits with his kids for years and went to rehab -he always comes out on top so thats all he cares about is PR.
        Apparently PR makes him hapoier than his relationships bith romantic and parental. This isnt needing a break all parents do, this instead is brads team leaking stories about what hes doing with all his free time while angie is a single parent. Gross. What about the well being of your kids

  11. DS9 says:

    Yeah totally unreasonable to believe that you’d give the judge you have a relationship the benefit of the doubt for a few years until you realized he wasn’t shit…

    I’m so tired of Pitt.

  12. Mina says:

    Susan Bassi@SusanBassi
    #SamanthaBleyDejean rocks! Rattling the private judge world. May it all come down! Hard! So corrupt ! #PrivateJudge #AngelinaJolie #BradPitt What you gonna do
    @GavinNewsom ?

  13. Tia says:

    So basically the argument is that she didn’t have an issue in 2014 about things that the Judge did from 2016 onward?

    Does that make sense to anyone? Really?

  14. Mina says:

    Because he married them , she should accept an unethical behavior that even the judge admitted? And SDJ said she had to investigate by herself because they were hiding the deals , she found out recently.
    It took an outside lawyer to shake their corrupt world in LA. A bunch of greedy lawyers and judges sucking dry the citizens .

  15. Jodi says:

    Brad Pitt has shown his true colors from the day he went after his family (allegedly) on that plane. it’s disappointing. he’s a bully and a sneak and he clearly cares more about his financial assets and badmouthing the mother of his children than having a relationship with his kids and coparenting.

  16. Ariel says:

    I would like to just post my appreciation that y’all always use that photo of him, the one where he looks like a sociopath.
    Because the underhanded nastiness and smears of his “team” since he got drunk and “made contact” with a kid trying to protect his mother from drunken abuse really show you who he is.
    And it seems to never stop.
    The money he has spent smearing her- is it more than the money she wants?
    I mean, his “team” must cost a fortune (legal and pr combined)
    Which therefore makes the whole thing about punishment and control?
    Creepy. Horrifying.

    • Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

      I was going to comment on the same. The crazy eye via plastic surgery!

      He is showing his true colors. Controlling, and maybe abusive. His legal team’s tactic is to run Jolie into the ground but she is much stronger than him.

      • ad says:

        Agree, Jolie’s strength, resilience is unimaginable. I don’t know how she copes in looking after her kids & all the negative attacks that she is getting!

      • Elena says:

        It scares the hell out of me just by looking at Brad photo- projects controlling, abusive, vindictive, scary behavior. That movie Malik’s Tree of Life where he was mad as hell to one of his children (at their dinnertime) is an epitome of abusiveness. It is just a movie but I suspect he was like that if he gets mad at home. His kids must be so scared if this is the case. Liz says, that photo is a window to a real man (and I agree).

    • Meg says:

      ‘The money he has spent smearing her- is it more than the money she wants?
      I mean, his “team” must cost a fortune (legal and pr combined)
      Which therefore makes the whole thing about punishment and control?
      Creepy. Horrifying.’
      Great points

    • Liz version 700 says:

      That photo is everything. Like a window to the real man

  17. Truth hurts says:

    I believe you all are missing the point. He doesn’t care what people think. He knows he will skate right on by and all the little girls will still swirl and swoon and dream of being his girl! Lol
    I detest Aniston also, but she told you all he was missing a sensitivity chip. Hell, HE told you in GQ in 2017 he was a spiteful, arrogant azzhole, literally his words and we act surprised.
    Angelina has to do handstands just to make u believe she loves her kids.
    He has girl hopped or got canned for years. JA is the only one slobbering after the farce. Only because she loved the attention it bought and she got dumped for Jolie whom
    People believed was more beautiful. She was miserable also because of him.
    Angelina got entangled in a mess and spent years in it until she said God my kids! You will not ruin their lives!
    No custody case will take four whole years unless something is terribly wrong. There is a reason she wants full custody. It’s not her trying to smear his image, cause truthfully she ain’t said sh*t about him that would hurt him.
    But his team literally have tried to burn her down.
    She talked a bit last year about how she has to stand strong. No matter why people dislike as a person, no one deserves the slander and hatred because of one dumb idiot. Let’s not forget drunk and drugged idiot.
    Just listen to his drug fried brain and alcohol and cig filled tongue speak in his interviews. His arrogance and air of supremacy blended with rehearsed elevated vocabulary is confusing as fk.
    He is weakling, he runs and hides whenever he fks something up. Leaves it for his money and PR to clean up and never looks back.
    But this time he met up with a fighter.
    The people in HW are messed up. Angelina is a rare gem. They know it.
    I keep saying he was sliding the judge extra cash for biasness, counsel having secret meetings and getting the judge extra paying gigs. Behind her back. Wasser was in the fold and was really not doing her job, reason she got fired then she took her nobly knees to TMZ and lied. Does anyone tell the truth in LA?
    If you have followed this, it has been one for the books and trending on epic. A knock down fight via lawyers. Expensive but I guess worth it to the two people involved. Pitt says kids but it’s for his image. Lawyers say kids but its the paychecks. Angie says kids but it’s half justice.

  18. Meg says:

    Ugh ive been around toxic people like that before, ‘Well this didn’t bother you before!’
    Yeah because i wasnt aware of what you were doing without my knowledge before! how is that even a valid argument? Maybe he needs new PR people, theyre scraping the bottom of the barrel

  19. Mireille says:

    See??!! What’d I tell ya!!?? Less than 24 hours later and Page 6 is back to Angie-bashing. 🙄

  20. ad says:

    Pitt’s PR machine has started their smear campaign. It seems like a straight forward issue which has nothing to do with both Jolie & Pitt. What is in question is the nondisclosure of the business relationship of Pitt’s attorney & the judge. To be fair for all parties Pitt should not collude with his attorneys & the judge unethical behaviour, Pitt should not be endorsing their bad practice & fire all of them! Or is he hiding something? Wait & see to be continued & more dramas to come I see!

  21. TheNoper says:

    Isnt’t this the same judge that married them? Don’t attorney and judges work together all the time on all types of cases? She makes it seem like they are colluding, but she has known him as well for ages.

    • SaraR. says:

      What does it matter if he married them and knows both Brad and Angelina for a while? He was hired to make judgements in their case and be impartial. If he is getting jobs from Brad’s attorney and is not disclosing that to Angelina’s side, it leaves room for doubt about his impartiality. It’s very simple.

    • ad says:

      Yes the judge officiated their marriage but that is another story. I don’t understand why Pitt is outraged at Angelina requesting for the judge to be disqualified for a good reason. If he knows already that he is going to win their custody battle why is he upset? Anger management comes to mind! Just look for another judge who is honest, transparent, handles the case with no doubts of impartiality! Gosh just imagine all his money thrown away paying PR instead of giving it to his kids, mind you he has loads of money but mean to his family?

    • lucy2 says:

      These judges make a lot of money doing these private cases. I think it was fine when he was hired in the beginning, but if one party is continuing to bring him more and more business, while this case is going on, that does seem like it has the potential to influence the judge.

  22. ad says:

    Rights for the kids to proceed! Get rid of the corrupt judge, Jolie & Pitt to be quiet & stand on one side & let the kids speak to the judge. Surely they can end this quickly without nastiness, smearing etc by allowing legal representation for the kids!

    • Lady D says:

      The one showing nastiness is the bully who will win at any cost. Grinding Angelina under his foot is his goal and he will destroy everything and everyone in his path, including his children to get to her. He is fixated on her not winning against him. I think it all goes back to the fact that she left him. He will never forgive her for that, and he intends to make her pay for it forever. It’s like he thinks he owns her. (jmo)

    • crogirl says:

      “Surely they can end this quickly without nastiness, smearing etc by allowing legal representation for the kids!”

      Angie wanted the kids to get a minor counsel but Pitt refused. It’s all in those e-mails between Wasser and Spiegel

  23. Linda says:

    That first photo of him creeps me out. My ex’s eyes used to turn that glassy bright blue when he was drunk and high.