Jemele Hill takes no pleasure in saying ‘I told you so’ about Donald Trump’s racism

Jemele Hill attends the 'Captain Marvel' premiere

I love Jemele Hill, the former ESPN anchor. In September 2017, she properly identified Donald Trump as a white supremacist who promotes an agenda of white supremacy. For this, the Trump White House demanded that ESPN fire Jemele. Truly, that really happened – the Trumpers tried to throw around their considerable weight and have a sports journalist fired from a private company because she tweeted a factual statement. ESPN didn’t fire her then, but she was basically put on notice for several months and then she was eventually let go in early 2018. She’s taken on more work post-ESPN: she writes for The Atlantic, she hosts two podcasts, she’s a producer and she’s got a new Vice TV talk show, which is what she’s promoting now. She chatted with the Daily Beast about Donald Trump, politics and sports. Some highlights:

On Black women: “We’re also talking about a very special time in America for Black women. Black women have become, from a political standpoint, essentially the backbone of the Democratic Party…Black women are also the most educated group in the country in terms of the number of advanced degrees they have. This is a time where you’re seeing a lot of Black women come into their own and seize their own power. We’re part of that movement and represent that.”

Her show is called ‘Stick to Sports’: “It’s not that people want people to “stick to sports,” it’s that they want them to “stick to sports” when it’s something they don’t agree with. There’s a long history and a pattern of Black athletes—and Black people, period—being told to shut up and accept whatever it is they’re given. Even though most of us have lived here our whole lives, we’re the ones who get told to “go back to Africa,” or “if you don’t like it, leave.”…Whenever you bring up those topics, it is uncomfortable for a lot of people. They have this false idea that sports and the real world happen in two different places, when sports is just a microcosm or a reflection of what’s happening in society… People do not mind being entertained by Black people but they don’t want to be reminded of the Black lives that bleed for their entertainment. It’s just that simple.

She was right: “It’s one of those things where I take no pleasure or joy in saying, “I told you so.” I don’t want to say “I told you so” because if there’s anything I really wish I was wrong about it was that. We don’t deserve to be led by a racist president and so I wish I wasn’t right about it. But all the signs were there and I think people were trying to apply regular norms to the White House, as if this was just another president in office that people disagreed with. It’s one thing to disagree on policy or guidelines or laws, but we’re talking about someone where the core of who they are is to reject marginalized people, make them feel as if they don’t belong in this country, they don’t need to be heard, and they don’t deserve to be treated equally. That’s not political—it’s right and wrong. There is no way that any of us should be OK with a president who speaks the way he does about people in this country—and not only speaks about them that way but puts policy behind his ignorant views.”

She recently tweeted “If you vote for Trump, you are a racist.”: “There are plenty of examples like that where this administration has done something not because it makes sense but purely out of cruelty—purely to make the point known about who matters and who doesn’t in this country. So when I made the statement, “If you vote for Trump, you are a racist,” I know it’s really harsh and I do know people that voted for Donald Trump that would never look at themselves as being a racist. I said not just because I believe it but also for effect, because I want people to take stock of what you’re actually voting for. In your mind, you might think: “Oh, I voted for a better tax law.” But if it comes with having kids in cages, repealing or attacking legal protections for LGBTQ people, if it comes with all these other things that send a message that these people don’t matter and shouldn’t be heard and therefore shouldn’t be protected, then you really need to have a gut-check moment and ask, “What am I voting for? Is that tax cut worth destroying other people’s lives? Is that worth it?”

[From The Daily Beast]

Jemele also (correctly) makes the point that in her conversations with Trump supporters, she’s seen that, for those people, there is always some gut-level appeal of Trump’s racism and bigotry, sometimes cloaked as “I like that Trump isn’t politically correct.” Her point is, yeah, you like that he calls Mexicans rapists and you like that he put brown children in cages. Anyway, this is just another reminder that the Trumpers want to destroy Jemele Hill’s life and career because she’s spent the past three years making completely factual statements about Donald Trump and his supporters. Jemele has been right about everything this whole time and racist Trumpers are still salty AF about it.

Jemele Hill is all smiles on Main Street during the 2019 Sundance Film Festival

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  1. VS says:

    She is 100% right. I know some people voted for trump because of taxes……but you cannot ignore how donald and his spawns have desecrated the presidency! I have benefited from the same relaxed tax laws but It is NOT worth it! I don’t mind higher taxes if Trump is voted out of office on Nov 3rd

    The weird thing is, not a lot of his maga fans benefited from those taxes they keep bragging about; the evangelicals are a lost cause but the rational conservatives (there are still some) should join the moment of voting donald out of the white house.

    • MF1 says:

      Also, tax law can be racist! When you’re voting for tax proposals that are going to disproportionally harm black and brown people, then you’re voting in favor of racism for your own benefit.

      • osito says:

        EXCELLENT POINT! We’re just now starting to have conversations about *economic* manifestations of white supremacy in this country, but the scope is still so limited that we end up mostly talking about pay disparities and real estate: redlining and housing discrimination. All of which are valid, but the scope of the problem is just so much larger than that and more intricate, and thus more difficult to pick apart and truly comprehend. Even within real estate, one of the first steps of the removal of marginalized peoples from valuable property is the assessment of property taxes — as those taxes go up, that land goes to market, and people are forced to sell at an unfair rate to the eventual valuation of the property. I’ve had people ask me, “Do you really think there’s some sort of slow-moving conspiracy between city governments and property developers to destroy black and brown communities?” To which I respond “No. it’s a conspiracy that moves faster than affected communities can act to combat it, and it also disproportionally affects the poor, regardless of race.” And that’s just one, relatively obvious, unfair tax manipulation — there are sooooo many others!

    • VS says:

      @MF1 — I think what you are trying to say is that tax laws can be regressive and therefore diproportionally affect those with lower incomes; let’s not confuse things here!

      if you wanted to talk about the further impact of that in terms of funding of public schools, public universities, libraries, etc. once again, it is a direct but also an indirect consequence of regressive tax laws but also of the people we elect to office!

      There is a good reason why people should vote and not just in the presidential elections but for all levels of our governments (President Obama has encouraged in his column published in the medium people to vote and he’s 100% right https://obama.medium.com/how-to-make-this-moment-the-turning-point-for-real-change-9fa209806067 … those local elections that are ignored by the population significantly affect lives and some people don’t even realize)

      @osito — you brought up a good point about property taxes; this is where Trump tried (deliberately or not) to hurt those in blue states. This is an important debate because the ramifications of these are pretty broad….once again, ignored by most

  2. Who ARE these people? says:

    Cute, smart, and right – so glad she found ways to expand her career after ESPN caved in cowardice.

    Trump voters are racist because voting for Trump is a vote for racism, it is a racist act.

    When will well-off White Americans stop pretending that their wealth isn’t derived from the oppression of Black people?

  3. Joanna says:

    No one is going to say they are a racist, not even David Duke. But we all have conscious and unconscious bias/stereotypes we’ve picked during our life that we have to recognize it and fight against it. Donald Trump appeals to the bad part, he says the quiet things people have whispered, out loud and imo, that’s what hooks them.

    • Betsy says:

      Which is just so disgusting. Yes, we all have those biases – hell, categorizing animals and humans into groups is built into the human brain! – but I think all good people make it a point to work past them. And some people like to pretend they don’t have them: “I don’t see color.” Like fun you “don’t see color.” Every damn person does.

      And then there are the bad people who, it turns out, always took secret pleasure in holding their weird racism close to their hearts and, as you say, really enjoy that someone is encouraging them to say it loud and proud.

      Those screaming at students integrating schools, the pouring food onto sit in participants, and attending lynchings like they were pleasant picnics weren’t so long ago. None of this was ancient history.

    • Athyrmose says:

      Great post.

      I think we’d progress and actually begin to heal from the disease of racism if people could just say something like, “I live in a society built on white supremacy, and am therefore racist,” instead of falling apart or gaslighting marginalized people about racism.

      Racist. Not just bias. Racist. Because white supremacy. Because indoctrination. Because we’re all involved. Because even the, ‘good people.’

      People act like their butt is going to fall off if they say the word, or let it be said of them.

      As Baldwin said, we cannot fix what we will not acknowledge.

  4. duchess of hazard says:

    Most black women, we been knew. When people say listen to black women, I wish pundits et al would just listen and ask re: our insights.. Because we know. Hill was speaking truth from the go.

    • Watson says:

      Pretty sure everyone knew. Just that a lot of white people didn’t care as long as the cruelty wasn’t directed at them. Then the coronavirus hit and it suddenly dawned on these white voters “oh…he really doesn’t give a shit about anyone!”.

  5. Edna says:

    Jemele is right on point. People are so selfish and refuse to look at the bigger picture. It shouldn’t be about what’s in it for me but how does this affect others as well. Obviously the Trump supporters care only about themselves and their pockets and no one else. America could be so much better if people could move past the racism and xenophobia.

  6. Kay Dozier says:

    I love everything she said, especially about people that vote for Trump convincing themselves they’re not rascist. I know people who honestly don’t consider themselves racist that love him because he’s “ not politically correct” or “he’s not a regular politician.” They are the ones constantly posting the memes “ we can agree to disagree and still be friends” etc. Bit when I try to tell them no we can’t, we’re talking about morality issues not policy issues, they just refuse to see it that way.

  7. Dazed and confused says:

    She is 100% correct. This was why I was so disappointed on November 8, 2016. I thought we’d made progress and it hurt my soul to realize how racist and sexist America still is. A vote for Trump say that voter is racist and sexist regardless of what they are telling themselves. There is no issue that overrides cruelty.

    • Betsy says:

      I firmly believe votes were changed and that he didn’t win.

      But the fact that he got as many votes as he did is stomach churning.

      • Dazed and Confused says:

        I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out votes were changed. I live in a bright red state and earlier this week, I saw a woman wearing a mask that said “Trump 2020” — I have seen just how many people around here support him. It’s scary.

  8. Teebee says:

    It’s good to put the spotlight back on Jemele. Even though it’s almost the end of Trump’s first (and please, only) term, we should be recognizing those voices that have been trying to cut through the din since day one.

    She’s pretty spot on with her understanding of Trump voters. There’s a spectrum of qualities, beliefs, attitudes and behaviours that make up a Trump supporter. None of them good or positive, or can/should be spun sympathetically.

    You voted, and will again, for Trump? Then you are one of the following, bar none:

    Racist
    Sexist
    Misogynistic
    Greedy
    Selfish
    Angry
    Ignorant
    Petty
    Spiteful
    Cruel
    Malicious
    Privileged
    Entitled
    Willful
    Obtuse
    Short-sighted
    Ultimately, an asshole.

    Feel free to add to the list.

    • osito says:

      Abusive
      Chaotic
      Gullible
      Intentionally delusional
      Jingoistic
      Oppositional defiance disordered
      Hypocritical
      Manipulative

      And that’s what I’ve observed in my Trump-voting family members.

    • Trillion says:

      divisive
      delusional
      duplicitous

    • Korra says:

      Insecure
      Suffering from illusory superiority complex
      Anti-intellectual
      Boorish
      Myopic
      Favorable to authoritarianism
      Lacking empathy and compassion

  9. Lizzie Bathory says:

    It’s not lost on me that the same people who whine about “cancel culture” went straight to the manager’s office to get Jemele fired. I’m glad she’s still doing well & still speaking out.

  10. osito says:

    I love Jemele. I’m glad that she spoke out and became larger than the ESPN platform could ever have allowed her to be. I don’t follow sports, have never willingly rested my eyes on any ESPN channel or article, and I would have never encountered her without her freeing herself from them.

  11. Liz version 700 says:

    I admire her so much! She has the courage to say the truth. I am starting to maybe dare to feel a little hopeful. I found out two Trumpers in my extended family have changed their minds and are voting for Biden this time. I am biting my tongue to not ask why they were ok with kids in cages, very good people on both sides, but now the economy sucks and they are jumping ship. We need the votes and I am good at not being available to hang out with them

  12. adastraperaspera says:

    My partner and I were trying to enjoy watching baseball the other night when commentator and former player Mark Grace made a disparaging comment about his ex-wife, calling her a “dingbat” on the air. He was forced to apologize, but he just issued hollow words to keep his job. That same week, former hockey player Mike Milbury claimed that NHL players could play better hockey because no women were in the bubble to distract them. He also apologized and then “stepped away” from doing broadcasting for now (not actually fired). It’s ridiculous that these men have been allowed to create hostile workplaces and everyone just cheers the games and goes along with it. Jemele Hill is one of the few voices out there bringing attention to the problem.

    The problem with Mark Grace and Sports Media
    https://deadspin.com/the-problem-with-mark-grace-and-sports-media-1844742710

  13. SomeChick says:

    Any former Deadspin readers here?

    After gawker media lost their court case (thanks, Peter Thiel) the new management told the Deadspin staff to “Stick to Sports” because they didn’t like them criticizing the current regime.

    Deadspin was their most widely read and profitable site – because they didn’t “stick to sports.” That was why I read it. I have little to no interest in sports, beyond how they affect culture at large. That was their strong point, and the writing was engaging and good.

    They were fiercely anti sexist and anti racist. They posted about BLM and Kaepernick (which, how is he not related to sports?) and food and parenting – all in relation to sports – and all manner of cultural things, and the writing was generally really engaging and good, which was why I read the site. It was why a lot of people read the site.

    It would be like telling CB to never post about sports. Sports do not exist in a vacuum. They are part of the larger culture and affect and reflect the times we live in.

    Ultimately they fired two editors in quick succession, and as a result, the entire masthead walked out over the course of a week, and they lost nearly all of their previous audience. I’m still kinda salty about it because I loved their perspective. As a regular reader, I learned a lot about sports and actually started caring about some aspects. I read it nearly daily. Because it was enjoyable and interesting. And because they didn’t “stick to sports” but rather reported on them in the broader cultural context.

    They went dark for a while and eventually hired new writers, and permanently disabled comments. The current site is a lifeless husk. I sadly bought a “Stick to Sports” tshirt and poured a little out.

    So the owners sandbagged their best property and lost nearly all of their regular readers.

    It’s hard for me to believe that Jemele chose this title by accident or coincidence. I’m glad to hear she’s not sticking to sports, and really looking forward to seeing what she does!

    • Vernie says:

      I also miss Deadspin. Thank you for this thoughtful reminder of why it was so important. Jemele Hill is a national treasure, and your entire comment was spot on.

  14. Jennifer says:

    Her podcast about The Wire is awesome! It’s really interesting to re-watch that show in light of current politics. I love hearing the perspectives of two black people. When I watched it the first time, most reviews and analysis I encountered were by white men like Alan Sepinwall. Sepinwall is insightful and amazing, but Jemele is, too, in a different way.

    PS Now I understand why she compares so many characters to atheletes. 😂