On Thursday, the Duchess of Sussex took part in the “When We All Vote Couch Party.” I covered it on Friday and the post barely got any comments, because – just my opinion – Meghan wasn’t saying anything hyperpolitical or scandalous. As I wrote in my coverage, “She’s “endorsing” very general things here – it’s important to vote, we should acknowledge the history of voting rights, voter suppression is still happening, this is an important election.” I also made the point that because it was Meghan making those general observations, that’s what made it newsworthy, because everything she does now makes headlines, and it’s been that way for years. She’s sharing very basic, general thoughts about the importance of the 2020 American election and apparently, that was enough for a series of old, white British people (mostly men) to lose their collective minds. You would have thought that she ate an avocado whilst wearing jeans. Here are just *some* of the batsh-t reactions to Meghan encouraging Americans (specifically American women) to vote on the 100th anniversary on the 19th Amendment:
Extraordinary! Meghan now actively campaigning against Donald Trump.
Completely inappropriate and a massive diplomatic embarrassment for the Queen and British Royal Family, whose entire success and longevity is based on staying out of party politics. https://t.co/FfRm1Vlfn7— Dan Wootton (@danwootton) August 21, 2020
The Queen must strip the Sussexes of their titles. They can’t remain as royals & spout off about foreign elections in such a brazenly partisan way. https://t.co/6uZ3FTbjHW
— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) August 21, 2020
The Royal family can't get involved in politics. She knew that when she joined. It's irrelevant she's American. She still has her royal title. Still abuses that title. Still sticks two fingers up to the responsibilities that come with that title.
She does not deserve that title https://t.co/FxkUersIJZ
— Jay Beecher (@Jay_Beecher) August 21, 2020
You can’t be a royal and meddle in politics. It’s one or the other. The whole point of royals is that they’re above the political fray. It’s not cancel culture, it’s a breach of their employment contract as HRHs. PS. I’m a republican. https://t.co/MwWKFYGSkF
— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) August 22, 2020
I feel the same pit in my stomach which I used to feel last year when Meghan was constantly and degradingly attacked over picayune bullsh-t. In this particular case, it’s so far beyond anything resembling good-faith criticism or even a logical, factual argument. Meghan is an American woman who married a British prince, and was subsequently harassed and bullied out of the UK. Now that she’s back stateside, she’s participating in Get Out the Vote campaigns virtually and, honestly, what she’s saying is not controversial, scandalous or political in the f–king least. Voting rights are only a political issue to people who aim to marginalize and minimize women’s voices and black voices.
As for the argument that Meghan indicated (and barely that) that she favors Biden-Harris to the unhinged fascist nutjob, okay, then maybe she was edging up to “politics.” But it’s funny how white royals get to indicate all the time on political issues and it’s never this big of a deal. Remember how the Queen and Prince William supported Brexit? Remember how many times the Prince of Wales has entered the political fold?
*finds photos of Meg wearing Suffragette White*
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
American woman voices her opinion that it’s important to vote in an American election…oh the scandal!
Say the people who don’t bat an eyelid when the queen’s son is implicated in an international people trafficking case.
Their ability to put things in tiny boxes to feel right is freakish. “Well, we’ll put Prince Andrew in this small box and just let that blow over because what he was accused of isn’t political. But let’s make some real noise about Meghan urging people to vote because that’s POLITICAL.”
It is unbelievable. I hope she is able to laugh at the freakish rage people unleash for every act of existing that she does. These folks are borderline terrifying. Between the crap done to Meghan and our own Orange disaster I have learned a lot about the amount of racism that we still need to fight.
I hope so too because they are obsessed with her. It kind of reminds me of the obsession with AOC from white male republicans.
There have been protests outside Buckingham palace this weekend with people holding signs and shouting chants that Andrew is a paedophile. Not a single mainstream media outlet I’ve seen has reported on it, even the fail, (and you’d think they would report on it for the clicks). Videos on Instagram and twitter though.
I expect this Meghan is political nonsense is what the palace has instructed the papers to report on instead.
Some people are saying it is old news and happened last year. Having looked at the video no-one has a face mask. However, it wasn’t reported whenever it happened.
It has now been reported by the Daily Mirror and the Express. It isn’t old news. It was organised by ‘Freedom For The Children Global Walk London’ group on facebook. It is hugely significant when such a demonstration directly targets the royal family. Yet there was nothing about it on Saturday’s news reports and it is only surfacing now.
It really is a crazy made up scandal. They left their “employment contract” or whatever that woman said, as HRHs representing the royal family. They are now private citizens who can say and do whatever every other private citizen can. Sure, they can choose to be cautious- Harry may not speak on voting and Meghan may limit remarks to America. But their titles reflect their hereditary position, like all the other aristocrats out there- not royal family representatives. Plus the fact it’s now controversial to say that voting is good and racism is bad just looks terrible for the UK. Which is the genius behind Meghan’s move. Getting screamed at for taking the principles position just makes the screamers look worse, and it makes Meghan’s point for her. Unfair to have to endure that nevertheless though.
Prince Charles literally refused to show up to the China state dinner, but sure, all the other royals have NEVER expressed opinions on the politics of foreign countries. Meghan didn’t even say to vote for Biden! She said we need everyone to vote, period. That’s not a partisan statement.
You’d think it would not be a partisan issue but one side has done everything from trying to sabotage a federal service to suppress votes to politicizing mask wearing and Goya beans.
He was wrong to do that. It is for the government to decide who they invite and how they are received. If he doesn’t like it then he should give up his place in the succession and the money he receives for being a working royal. The same goes for any of them who make their political views public.
And yet he did not and nor did the British public and media demand he be stripped of his titles. People seem to be able to have a rational discussion when white royals make a political misstep, but they froth at the mouth when the biracial royal exercises her civic duty
I am not really that up on the press coverage of the Royal family, I do recall plenty of criticism of any Royal who engages in politics, but I cannot quantify it. All I can say is that I don’t like it, even when I share their political views.
I understood your point. I was comparing the general reaction against these two situations – one is a general statement on voting and the other an actual political stance against another country. While there may be some criticisms and debate on royal involvement in politics, only one of these got the press and the public demanding titles be stripped. Let’s not forget all the insults and hate that accompany the criticisms. All this shows, it is that it has less to do with scrutinising royals and more to do with racism
Voting in a democracy is not political, and the US and UK used to want to be as paragons of democracy in the world Jelly. How far have they fallen. She was extremely careful with her words, so much so that the change topic was also part of her speech in NZ when she was still a royal. This outrage is ridiculous, and I wonder of we will get more news on how many girls Andrew raped or how much the family knew.
why are they losing their minds and assuming she is trashing Trump? did she come outright and say that? Dan Wooten is singing for his supper as he is obviously on the Royals’ payroll.
Remember when the queen didn’t want Scotland to vote for independence and sticks her nose in it somehow. not to mention William’s former private secretary Dr Simon Case who worked on Brexit and is back with BoJo. look out for his investiture next after a job well done in exiling the Sussexes.
hypocrisy definition: Royal Reporters
This is another one of those times where what she actually did or said is disregarded and instead what they heard/interpreted her words as meaning is being pushed forward as absolute truth. It happened with all the Finding Freedom stuff too. The book would say something like “Meghan didn’t meet Kate until much later on into her relationship with Harry,” and the press somehow hears “Meghan is pissed that Kate is a cold ass bitch who refused to meet her. She expected to be the most bestest of BFFs and be personally mentored by Kate.”
The only vaguely political thing she said was “we all know what’s at stake with this election,” which is honestly something I’ve been hearing from both sides: from Biden and Trump. But because she’s black and a woman who thinks voting is important, she must be advocating specifically for Biden and against Trump when she says this is an important election. It’s so infuriating. They THINK she might have meant something, so they’re going to ignore her actual words.
And she’s not using her HRH. She has it because it would take an act of parliament to strip them of their HRHs, but she’s not using it. She’s not a working royal. You guys threw her out! You rejected her and refused to keep her in the fold. She wanted to stay in and keep helping and would’ve followed the rules, but you said no. So guess what, she can do and say what she wants now. She’s not a working member of the BRF. She’s not using her HRH. This is on you guys, British tabloids and RF.
They have changed the story. Now they all say H&M dumped them and abandoned the RF. Cause you know offering to work part-time and asking to split time was abandoning. They were shoved out and blasted as they went. Now there are tantrums because they are encouraging people to do their civic duty. William won’t be happy until he literally breaks them. I think they are tougher than he realized, however. So he is left with sending his minions to harass them.
Piers now likes Trump again. I notice he never called or Andrew to lose his titles.
Piers Morgan is losing his mind because he’s cronies with Trump and Trump’s corrupt crowd.
They open the pandora box now . If queen stripped the Sussex title which she cant , charlie boy will use that ab example and stripped everyone in that family like sweden. That’s why courtiers are not pushing hard. I love how the world is dragging their ass in twitter.
Of course she can strip the title….if she wants to but she hasn’t wanted to…..
Parliament would have to strip the title from Harry but they won’t because then Andrew needs to be in the mix and others too.
As Nic said, it would take an act of parliament and a strong reason for it to happen. And parliament has better things to worry about at this point.
As for strong reasons, if it’s “oh they’re being embarrassing”, people will bring up Andrew (as they did yesterday) and if it’s “oh they’re not working royals”, everyone else in the line of succession could get their titles taken away too or at least people would question it.
It’s a can of worms I don’t think the BRF wants to open
A dukedom, including a royal dukedom cannot be removed like the HRH. HRH status is entirely within the reigning monarch’s power. It is for the monarch to decide which of their family will have this status. Sarah Ferguson lost her HRH status on her divorce but she remains Duchess of York. Diana lost HRH but remained Princess of Wales. It’s the equivalent of ‘Mrs’ and many divorced women choose to keep the ‘Mrs’ title, especially if they have children.
The only recent cases of dukedoms being removed was during the first World War when a number of German and Austrian dukes who were also HRH and in the line of succession to the British throne were fighting against Britain. Their titles and dukedoms were removed by Parliament on the grounds of treason and the King issued Letters Patent in 1917 restricting HRH status.
Charles could make further reforms in line with other European monarchies and restrict HRH status to his children, and the children of his heir. The change would mean no HRH status for Louis’ children. Charlotte’s children would be in the same position as Princess Anne’s. It would also remove HRH status from Harry’s children.
There could be no retrospective change to the 1917 rules which give HRH to Andrew’s daughters and Edward’s children but it would have been better if the York sisters had voluntarily dropped the HRH. The assumption is that HRH status is for those who have a public role with official duties and this has never applied to Andrew’s daughters.
There’s quite a few people with peerages who are in jail for child molestation and other terrible charges. There are groups in the UK who want to make the process of stripping someone’s title easier so those people can have their titles revoked. If Parliment suddenly finds the time and energy to strip Harry of his Duke title while there are multiple convicted child predators sitting around still titled, there will be an implosion in the U.K.
Omg! I can’t believe there isn’t more momentum to that movement, given that the titles are what make them think they are above us peasants
SO many people, not just the Sussex Squad, slammed these idiots with receipts, posting image after image of past headlines about Petty Betty and Brexit, and firing the Aussie PM, about Prince Tampon’s forays into lobbying. And someone posted screenshots of Dan Rotten’s posts from when TMZ ran nude pics of Haary and of Rotten’s comments about Harry being hot even in cold weather… let’s just say Rotten’s true motive for his attacks on Meghan are more like he’s behaving like a jealous wannabe lover.
I will not be surprised if people start storming palaces and embassies. I think everyone has had enough of witnessing the vile abuse M gets if she as much breathes. The alleged paedo prince will never be off the hook no matter how much they try to throw M under the bus. More dastardly secrets are going to be revealed and even the Queen may not be left out. The best think the RF can do right now is to call the press to order and try to clean house. None of them are looking good right now and Tampon Prince might not get the crown at this rate.
There was a video out on twitter yesterday of people gathering at BP and chanting pedophile. It looked like a crowd of a few hundred but it’s hard to say when exactly this happened.
Most normal people are bringing up Andrew when these idiots attacks are made and the royalists and anti Meghan nuts are looking foolish trying to justify their position.
Apparently that was a Qanon protest.
The Qanon protest at the palace in the midst of this was especially hilarious, because those are Trumps people. Those are the people Dan and Piers were trying to rile up in the US.
Though I believe there was some questions s to if that was current, due to emblems.
I guess a broken clock is right twice a day when it comes to going after institutions for protecting pedophiles.
LOL. Pedophile protest, QAnon protest, Save the Children protest, is there a fourth option?
That was a QAnon protest??? Welp, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I didn’t know about QAnon. Maybe that’s why there was no major coverage of the demonstrations on Saturday. Somehow I don’t think the dailymail would be worried about publicising a far-right group.
These British gasbags further reveal that they prefer monarchy to democracy, and that the British royalist culture is racist to the core.
the pushback against those bigots was epic! These people have made Meghan into a very powerful person; they were afraid that Meghan would be bigger than Diana, in my opinion she is getting there or is already bigger than her!
So many people came to her defense yesterday; of course you always have the usual racists but people with huge followers told those two to fuck up and reminded them of the number of times, the others were involved in politics!
Meghan should continue to do what she is doing because her message was actually amplified by those idiots! There are still way more rational people in the world than those two would have imagined
Go Meg!!!
I have said it before on this forum. The over smearing of M will be the downfall of the BM and RF. They are simply acting from a tried and tested play book that no longer works in a digital age. It was glorious to see the blow back yesterday. I know many thought us Brits were not doing enough to defend M. However, I lived through the Diana times. I will not be surprised if people storm the palaces at this rate. We know the rest of the royals are next to useless, are racist and don’t bring anything to the table from the Dolittles to the alleged paedo. However, not only have they chosen to wash their dirty linen in public, their attack dogs are way out of control. Whoever is handling their PR should be sacked. The House of Windsor is on its last legs.
Hilarious scrolling through Twitter and seeing the new additions to the Sussex Squad. Yvette Nicole Brown! Nathalie Emmanuel!
Dan Wooten so badly wants a story so the rest of BRF needs to figure out how to keep him happy. He’s not Harry and Meghan’s problem.
I know this is going to sound very silly, but is the “sussex squad” just a hashtag or an “@”? I’ve tried both, and can’t seem to find much, just a podcast.
Thanks!
Try searching for this: https://twitter.com/hashtag/sussexsquad
Elizabeth Regina, you nailed it. As my younger cousins would say this is a case where the BRF and the BM should have sat there and ate their food. But instead they just kept picking and picking at Meghan until they finally overreached yesterday. The smart thing to do now would be for William and KP to call off Wooten. But they can’t do that, because then Wooten will turn around and start dropping dirt on William. So they will keep trying to throw Meghan and Harry under the bus. But the general public has reached a breaking point, because Meghan is being attacked for ridiculous things AND there are more important things that should be in the headlines. So going forward you will likely see this blowback from celebrities, legit journalists, politicians, and everyday people (yes, all those people were defending Meghan yesterday) every time the BM tries this nonsense. And every time that happens more and more of the BRF’s hypocrisy and sketchiness will be revealed to a large audience. The Queen and Charles really need to sort this mess out.
I wish I could understand the logic to the BM and BRF/courtiers motives. What is to be gained from this constant, obsessive, hate campaign aimed at the Sussexes? And Meghan in particular. They told them to leave if they didn’t like how things were being done, so the Sussexes left and put an ocean and 3,000 miles between them. And still. The BM/courtiers/RRs are seeking to rewrite what was said and done and try to paint a picture that it was all the Sussexes fault and doing for what happened. Why can’t they just leave them alone. Meghan is American and she is back home and can say and do as she pleases in the U.S. She doesn’t represent the BRF anymore…that’s what it means to be a non working Royal. With all the pressing things facing Britain right now, the news organizations there should be focusing on what’s happening in Britain and not what the irrelevant 6th in line and his bi-racial American wife are doing in the U.S.
The hilarious part about the Sussexes being “non working” is that both of them have done more charitable appearances in the last few weeks than the “working” royals, especially his brother and sister in law.
if Willileaks was working on Earthshot, Dan would have had something to report on but as expected Will-not is on one of his many 6 week breaks during the year, whilst the Sussexes continue with their work.
They completely overreached. I knew it would happen. In the age of the internet it is EASY to find receipts to debunk tired UK press propaganda. Here is a quote from the high and mighty Elizabeth II from 2003.
“I share your concerns that we must encourage all our people to exercise their right to vote. This is a real challenge now before us all.” – Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on the 2003 elections
So if the Queen is the standard bearer for all things royal, looks like Meghan is just following her example.
Meghan made a speech when she was still a senior royal supporting women’s suffrage and the importance of voting. Approved by the BRF.
Dan Wooten and Piers Morgan already know this. All the royal watcher Karens/ Emily Giffen types may not. But that’s never stopped their outrage before.
Lol. Bring it to Parliament and just try to get their titles removed. Watch the MPs drag the royals and discuss Andrew. I welcome it.
It’s not a twitter handle or a hashtag. It’s just a group of people who call themselves the squad informally. If you search twitter for Meghan Markle you will find them or search for @royalsuiter she’s one of the more prominent squad members
True. 72 female members of parliament FROM ALL PARTIES penned an open letter to Meghan in her support because they were appalled at the racism/colonialism and sexism in the unrelenting media attacks.
Is she a royal? Did she become a citizen of the UK? Does she give a flying f*** about her title? No, to all three. She’s happy to home in the land of the free, home of the brave, cannot and will not be stopped in leading her own life. (Reminder: Harry does not want to be called Prince Harry, just, “Harry,”)
It would be funny if they just came right out and said that they were styling themselves as Meghan and Harry Markle-Windsor.
It would be funny but not the Markle name; what about Ragland-Spencer instead? LOL
I so wish Meghan would drop that Markle last name, her father has sullied it! she can call herself Meghan Ragland…… no need for her to wear any name related to the windsor at all. H can do as he wishes
🙂 Looking forward to next baby born in the US, Harry applying for citizenship and all becoming, “Markles.” My mother and I had a running joke for a number of years on the man taking a woman’s last name. Why not? It’s nothing more than choice. 🙂
I’d rather they not all be Markles, my opinion which means nothing I know But that will just give Bad Dad and The Other Daughter more vomit to spew for Piers.
This outrage doesn’t make me as nervous for her now that she’s stateside, it just annoying now. They wanted her to leave! They told her to go back where she came from! Now she’s home, exercising her right as a citizen of that country and they’re mad. They need to get out of American business. KP and Boris are sharing Simon Case and no one has anything to say about that. The royals are NOT apolitical so they need to cut this shit out. I wonder what happened over there that needs a distraction…
What’s really disgusting is that they bullied her out of the country and are STILL trying to control her every move.
The pushback from the blue checks on Twitter was amazing. It wasn’t even the Sussex squad. David Simon was really getting into it. The monarchy is looking REALLY bad lately. Piers and Dan were getting owned and it was wonderful.
David Simon is still posting and killing it. Piers isn’t going to work in the US again.
The stupid part is that Americans fought an actual war to get rid of the British monarch so they are not going to give a fuck about made up royal etiquette that only seems to apply to Meghan, who is American living in the US.
This is absolutely about control— she’s no longer a working royal or in the UK, they pretty much have no control over her or her narrative. What we saw yesterday was a desperate attempt to create conflict around her (and clicks for their shitty news site) and regain some of that control back and it failed. Meghan did nothing wrong. Theres nothing wrong with telling people to exercise their rights as American citizens.
David Simon is my new hero lol
there’s a dozen scandals at any given time that need distractions. Andrew, rose, kates whole family and inlaws etc…
These racist sexist assholes have completely forgotten about the spider memos written by Charles where he is directly interfering with British politics and asking specific things from politicians. That is way worse than Meghan making general comments about going out to vote.
Meghan is American and getting a title does not mean she has to be silent. She’s not British and clearly never will be at this point. Telling people to vote is a fundamental principle of democracy but I guess royalists don’t believe in that.
4 years of xenophobia, othering her because of her Americanness and using it as a reason to deny her royalty status but NOW she’s a member of the BRF who needs to be quiet regarding affairs in America. These people make me sick. No crown, title or jewel is worth this bullshit.
Agreed and considering the complete drama Angela Kelley and William created over her wearing jewels and the fuss over her title (no HRH when working just cause) I doubt and of those things matter to her anymore. They were already used to be petty towards her. She is just doing her thing.
The spider memos turned out to be a brouhaha over nothing. The reporters thought they were going to be super embarrassing- but It turned out to be Charles talking about veterans housing and organic farming
I can see how this is really dividing people. On the one hand we have Piers ‘breach of ethics’ Morgan and Dan ‘also allegedly doing a bunch of unethical things’ Wootton. And on the other is literally everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together. This is one of those real tough moral quandaries that really test your principles for sure.
They were clearly trying to get Trump to engage& have repeat of time he said he didn’t know Meghan had been nasty before the trump state visit. And funny how after all the xenophobia and telling her to go back to US, suddenly she’s a ‘British royal’.
But push back that piers and dan wootton got on social media was pretty epic as people were like where are their calls to strip Andrew of his title. So he ended up trending and then people were bringing receipts of all the times Queen, Prince Charles& Prince William etc were political.
A lot of high profile Brits and Americans were defending too saying she didn’t mention who to vote for. Views& likes for the video have increased exponentially so more visibility for the organisation-result!
Yeah they were clearly trying to get Trump to respond to cause more headlines. It’s desperation at its finest because everyone knows Meghan’s political stance at this point. She had a life before Harry.
Trump’s got some more pressing issues with the leaked audio of his sister completely trashing him. Although I would not be surprised in the slightest if Thin-Skinned Trump responded to this.
One thing you don’t do is mess with Americans’ right to vote. What Meghan said was so benign even MAGAs and right wing Republicans didn’t care. The royalists and Sussex haters ended up looking truly deranged …outside of their bubble, no one thinks like this.
Adding to the pile to the point out the hypocrisy (not that it is even equivalent to encourage democratic participation in her own country) – Eugenie and Beatrice went to the Boris Johnson victory party? Kensington Palace keeps hiring brexit staffers. Somehow all those letters that the queen wrote to try and influence Australian politics seem to have been buried (at least no apologies or anything were made)…
The idea that the RF is apolitical is a polite fiction – they are not supposed to be partisan but especially the BRF have form for being overtly political in a way that I haven’t seen in fx Denmark.
Meghan no longer represent the Crown. She has a royal title but she doesn’t work for the BRF! She can do whatever she likes.
Also the mental gymnastics involved in reading political symbology into the royals’ jewel and clothing choices. Kate was criticized for not wearing black to support TimesUp but her sycophants insisted she was wearing emeralds in honor of feminists. But her sending a subversive message through her jewelry (lol) would be expressing a political opinion by that standard that her stans are somehow okay with. The reality is, she was choosing not to support Times Up. People were trying to read shade into what the Queen wore when meeting the Trumps and praising her for it too….which makes no sense. Either they get involved in politics or they don’t.
By their definition, the Queen should be stripped of her titles for telling Scottish people to “think very carefully about the future” in the lead up to the independence referendum. After all, she was equally as vague as Meghan but we can all infer how she felt about the vote, and that’s enough to make it political interference.
So just Elizabeth Windsor from here on out then, eh?
I agree.
The Queen interfered way more than Meghan. I like Meghan and Harry but the whole royal thing should be abolished on principle and most of their outrageous wealth / land taken from them (including the aristocracy) and redistributed.
I wonder how much of this outrage is real – there’s no such thing as neutrality in politics! The choice to engage, or not, whether you are the Queen or an American citizen, has an impact that is felt, it’s just that we don’t notice so much the actions that uphold the status quo.
As for Meghan, my sincere wish for her is that if she notices these criticisms at all, she has a brief moment of pity and embarrassment on behalf of these reporters in their obvious desperation, then goes about her day without giving any further f*cks.
Sidenote to my American friends: PLEASE vote!
I hope Meghan’s at the point where can can roll her eyes and laugh at them for actually helping her spread her message. The original video along is at a million views. So….thanks insane, deluded, obsessed royalists for getting out the vote in America!
curious has piers had a melt down about the pedo Prince? Or is that too close to home, Piers? Just asking… I bet a case could be made
There’s a photo floating around of Piers with Ghislane Maxwell.
Piers is a dick, but he actually has written numerous articles (and tweets) denouncing Andrew.
Nowhere near the number of articles, shows and tweets Piers has done about Meghan. And if he wants to go into royals being political/using status to influence in the US, why has he been silent about Andrew allegedly lobbying US authorities for a sweetheart deal for Epstein? The level of outrage they reserve for Meghan is way OTT& it’s obvious even to non royal watchers. I even saw people asking why hasn’t the royal family pushed back on any of it incl racist comments.
I also get the sense that British tabloids won’t like being outscooped by the US on royals (like the house purchase) whilst they still generate so much clicks so sure the demands on the other royals to perform/give info will be great.
The Firm has really played itself. The smears have made Meghan have a much bigger profile than she would if they had just let things die down naturally. now so much attention is still focused on the non working royals in US & harder to control them.
These people spent 4 years screaming “Go back to America! We don’t want you!” And now it’s “She’s a British Royal! She can’t say anything as she’s part of the BRITISH royal family?!?!?”
IKR? The hypocrisy is stunning. Have these people nothing else to write about? I saw several comments from Meg haters saying how they’re sick of reading and hearing about her. Well, then take that up with the British Media cause they’re obviously obsessed with M&H and don’t want to write/talk about anyone else. Meghan is an American citizen and has the right to speak and encourage others to vote in an American election.
That’s funny coming from them because their whole twitter account is Meghan. They make podcasts and merchandise on their “hatred” for her.
The palace could have kept strings attached to Meghan, but such was the uproar to see Meghan and Harry punished stoked by these very same idiots complaining now like Piers and Danny that the idiot courtiers created this situation by cutting all the strings themselevs including even allowing use of the Sussex Royal Instagram. Only the men in grey would think Meghan and Harry derived their influence from use of the word Royal. Harry’s legacy as Diana’s son is the influence that mattered most on the global stage, and particularly in America. And they just gave him greater credibility as Diana’s one true son by kicking him out and forever damaging William’s connection to Diana’s legacy in the process. And they also connected Meghan to Diana’s legacy in addition to her own influence, and greatly damaged any connection Kate had built by being tall, thin, and cosplaying as Diana.
These people are angry especially Piers and Dan because those two are the real social climbers, they’re angry because Harry and Meghan didn’t play the game and kiss their feet. They wanted to use Harry and Meghan to further their careers especially because of the American and international opportunities especially Piers. He clearly wanted to use the Meghan connection to help him advance his career in the states. This is peak desperation and it backfired. Meghan and Harry don’t care anymore and they’ve left the country. It’s like these people can’t accept the fact that they’re gone
Don’t know why they’d think they could export their malicious and hateful racism against H&M to the U.S. It might sell amongst the Maga right wing crowd, but that’s it. Hopefully the other RRs (looking at you Katie Nichols) will think better about talking that nonsense in American media.
My God, the hate here is so blinding to them.
They’re just screaming Instead of listening or applying any facts to their arguments.
And the BRF is neck deep in politics. They just rarely speak it publicly.
Everything “royal” megan still is is because the Queen wanted it and allowed it. Why don’t they criticize her for this.
I am not sure if many Brits realise that by going after Meghan in such a vitriolic way, they do more harm to their image as a country. That kind of behaviour discredits the reputation of their media and British royal “values”. That tourism that they claim the royal family brings will decline the more racist and xenophobic they appear to the rest of the world. At this point, people like Piers Morgan and Dan Wooton appear to be completely unhinged.
I certainly don’t want to go visit anymore and take the tours of Buckingham palace and I’ve read lots of similar comments on here from other Celebitchies. We’ve been turned off to England. We don’t want to buy Royal wedding souvenirs anymore or buy British hats and get up early to watch their weddings. Many of us have gone from BRF fans who have spent our lives desperately wanting to visit and immerse ourselves in all things royal to absolutely so disgusted by the behavior of the BRF and the British press that England has been bumped way down on our list of dream travel locations. I think the BRF really might see a drop in tourism and BRF souvenir type revenue due to their treatment of H and M. I also wonder if businesses with the “royal seal” may take a hit. “Her Majesty’s Official tea purveyor,” “Her Majesty’s Official china purveyor,” etc.
In hindsight, the behaviour of the royal family was very telling at the wedding. I have no idea what values they share in the modern world, but it is certainly not the values of harmony and unity. By the time King William ascends the throne, we will likely be living in a dystopian nightmare if the present is any sign of things to come
maybe you could go to Liverpool instead where they banned the sale of that vile rag, the Scum years ago. Their journalists are banned by both Liverpool and Everton football clubs
@Vera — that’s great to know! why does the RF continue to work with them? yeah I heard they know too much about where the bodies are buried, but if the RF asks those rags to go to hell, some people will believe them but some rational people (there are those as I could see yesterday with M) will not.
I think this system of abuse has to stop! TQ is useless, would Charles do something about it?
@VS because the Royal family is part of the ‘establishment’ and the Scum and the Daily Hate supports that. It’s not even about what they know. All the Royal family cares about it their own survival. The people who read them tend to be those who dont like their white privilege questioned and those are royalist who long for the empire when they could feel superior.
The Daily Mail has been a fascist paper since the 30s, supported HItler and the blackshirts. This is why it’s also called the Daily Heil.
There are many people who hate the Scum and the Hate- there is a reason they have these ‘nicknames’. They campaign against them and target their advertisers.
So they dont speak for the whole country as much as Fox news doesnt express the opinion of the whole of USA.
What is less logical is the Mirror’s negativity against Meghan, that tabloid is supposed to be a more left leaning alternative to the Scum.
I agree with you 100%. I know the Revolutionary War happened a long time ago, but many Americans are also descended from people who were more recently under the thumb of British colonialism and this kind of behavior is very off-putting for so many reasons, all linked to cultural genocide.
This. I used to think of myself as an Anglophile and daydreamed about going to Britain to tour the castles. Not anymore.
As a POC, I’ve been appalled to see how the monarchy treated Meghan, and the more I see how the courtiers behave and collude with the tabloids to scream their ugliness, the more I hope the monarchy implodes and destroys itself. Clearly the courtiers running it are despicably petty little xenophobes so eager for status that they’ll behave abominably to defend it; I hope people boycott the castles and show that it’s time for it to go.
Honestly, those tweets are just hysterical and ridiculous. They carry on like pantomime villains, shouting and stamping their little feet.
Such insanity. The British media comes off more and more as unhinged and out of control. They truly are doing great damage to Britain’s image. There are far more important things the British media should be focusing on (ahem Brexit) than two former royals who live an ocean and several time zones away. So many wonderful people live in Britain and I’m truly sorry you all have to endure this nonsense.
I just logged into my years neglected Twitter account so I could tell Dan Wootton: that it must really rankle to know that his entire legacy will be intertwined with Meghan Markle, that the first line of his obituary will mention her, and that it kind of implies something really unsavory about HIM that he thinks what Meghan is doing is BEYOND THE PALE but that Andrew being a rapist pedophile is not. I hope he reads the comments.
Oh he reads the comments. He was blocking people that didn’t even @ him yesterday. He clearly searches his name. He is so pathetic.
Omg I love it. Every word of that is absolutely true.
Until Andrew is gone and stripped of titles I think they all need to STFU.
They took away all the stuff that mattered to them anyways.
They don’t use the titles.
It’s her title. Even if she were to divorce Harry, it would still be her title. Much like Diana and Sarah retained the titles but lost the HRH preface.
If you dislike Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, I’d never comment on her or even read stories online. You’re just feeding the beast. It’s clear the royal family will have to bend over backwards to get these two back into the fold. Otherwise, they’ll be overshadowing everything the royal family does from now on.
Yep, but they will never go back. I can’t see them subjecting their child(ren) to Will’s tantrums again.
I know, why go back and have Will instructing on the christmas church walk “Archie must walk BEHIND Charlotte!”
The undercurrent that the British own Meghan because she married a British Royal is actually quite disturbing. Piers and Wootton think it’s okay to attack what she says, after official leaving as a working royal and confirming they aren’t getting any tax payer money. It’s grotesque.
Meghan is American and can say what she wants. Controlling what a woman says because of who she married is just a few steps away from the anti choice nuts who want to control women’s bodies.
The thing is, even if she were to be stripped of her title (meaning Harry was also stripped), they’d find something else to be mad at her about. As others have stated, it’s really about regaining their control over her, and doing everything possible to make her miserable. They’ll only be happy once she’s dead or destitute. They can’t stand that (largely because of their obsessive coverage of her), she’s bankable and newsworthy. And that despite their efforts, she refuses to back down. I love that about her, though I hate that she has to endure this.
On another note, where the heck are the “real” royals? On another extended staycation? That’s some deal they made with media. It is interesting that Meghan’s remarks were made on Thurs, yet people only had something (the same thing, at that) to say on Saturday. Almost as if it was a coordinated message.
The only good to come of their hatred is that I think they finally overplayed it. Meghan trended all weekend, with blue check tweets calling out the British presses hatred and bringing up Andrew. Multiple real journalists got into with Dan and Piers, Bette Midler told Peirs to fuck off, high profile women were sharing Meghans video, etc. It is the most support I’ve seen for Meghan from high profile people in the U.K. as well. I’m tentatively hopeful that the general public is over the smear campaign and realizes how ridiculous it is.
I find the term “strip them of their titles” so aggressive. Piers uses that language on purpose to incite aggression toward the couple. He really is so morally deficient, and his anger toward Meghan is so distorted–exactly what does he want from her, beyond never existing in the first place?
yes. he is intentionally riling up his followers by repeatedly painting her as a villain and in doing so skewing the public image of Meghan. too bad it’s failing.
It’s clearly personal for him. Voting is a civic duty not political. It doesn’t matter what she actually says, this gasbag has an irrational hate.
@Lizzie – According to Morgan, when Meghan came to the UK she ghosted him after sending each other DMs. He seems to be big mad that she seemingly rejected his advances and went (and accquired) a much bigger fish.
The personable vendetta he has for her “ghosting” him is so stupid, particularly since the Royal family absolutely would not have allowed her to have a personal friendship with a UK “journalist”. She was probably warned about him immediately from the same people he claims she disrespected.
it is personal. He was deeply hurt by not being invited to their wedding and he’s been on this vendetta ever since.
But of course, Harry told Meghan to cut off Morgan once they’d had their first couple of dates and Harry was feeling Meghan was going to be someone special in his life. What were her choices? Continue to be in touch with Morgan while secretly dating Harry? And, since she and Morgan had already met once, Morgan would have had an expectation that they meet again, which Harry would definitely have discouraged her from doing. As someone looking to build a brand, there was really no foul in Meghan connecting with Morgan. But as someone who was drawing closer to a member of the Royal Family, it would not be wise to increase Morgan’s access–she had to drop him. It’s too bad that her original drink meetup with Morgan happened at the same time she met Harry; it’s almost as if she was fated to incite this bully that would set the wheels in motion for her and Harry to break out and live this better version of their lives.
Piers should have been jailed for the phone hacking he did but the Leveson inquiry ended up being toothless and he along with many others still kept their jobs in the press. Anyone in the UK would be aware of his role in the hacking and so I am sure Harry did tell her to cut off ties because he was not trustworthy.
If Biden gets elected and there is a majority Democrat House and Senate, attacking Meghan may become a diplomatic problem. Not only Biden becoming POTUS he will most likely can AG Barr, SecState Pompeo and the current US ambassador to the UK would be sent packing. A changing of the guard in American government would amp up calls for Andrew to answer to the FBI. That US diplomat’s wife who killed the British teen would lose Cheeto’s protection and become a bargaining chip: Crown Prosecution doesn’t get her until DOJ gets Andrew.
I think that’s what the BM and the BRF are really afraid of: a Biden administration could call in question how a US citizen who is a royal duchess was mistreated by the British press and is not doing more through coverage on Andrew’s mess, which involved crimes against American girls. If there is a fallout of UK – UK relations and UK pols and voters blame the UK press for damaging the country’s image and reputation across the globe the salawags will throw the Windsors under the bus to save themselves. Glad to hear they are getting dragged. I also believe if Bad Dad is squeezed hard enough he rat out Morgan and company on colluding to trash Meghan and getting paid for it.
Fat Chance. None of this is going to happen. That’s not how diplomacy works.
That’s really a stretch. We have so many serious problems that (hopefully!) Biden will be addressing-this will not be one of them.
These Motherf***ers.
“Get lost! Go home! Go back to where you came from!”
Okay. Check, check and check.
I seem to remember that Meghan gave an *official speech in front of the Queen’s portrait* in – was it New Zealand? – where she congratulated and complimented them on their own suffrage, which was roughly 30 years before the United States had (white) women’s suffrage. (Sidenote: for the record, it was white women who mostly benefitted from the 19th Amendment. I’m native and none of my grandparents were even U.S. citizens until 1924, and the last state to be forced into Native suffrage was Utah, in 1957, after a battle that went all the way to the Supreme Court – and yet, even today, Utah still makes it as hard as they can for Native citizens to vote, including shutting down all polling stations forcing some Navajo to drive up to 9 hours to cast their vote. And then, obviously, African American women were still forced to take literacy tests and pay poll taxes and so forth, so let’s not break our arms patting ourselves on the back over suffrage, ladies. Until you’re out there for all of us – poor women and women of color, it’s kinda meaningless.)
Nobody said a word about Meghan’s speech at that time, so big deal.
But here we are.
but indirectly they did say something about it. they then announced the sussexes and cambridges would separate and gave simon case the go ahead for the full fledged smear campaign.
Yes, and let’s not forget the white, female anti-suffrage movement “National Association Opposed to Woman Suffrage”. Anti-suffragism was not just a matter of societal benevolence, of course. Women anti-suffragists understood their interests as women lay not in the ballot box, but in being white, wealthy and well-connected, as nearly all leading anti-suffrage women were. They knew what power they had relied on the existing social order and flowed from their position at the top of a hierarchy. Any form of democracy that widened voting rights threatened that hierarchy. Northern anti-suffragists worried about poor and immigrant women flooding the ballot box whereas southern anti-suffragists saw suffrage for women as a Trojan horse for the Black vote.
Thank you, Jaded, for adding to the discussion around just *who exactly benefitted* from suffrage.
Meghan did exactly NOTHING wrong. Telling people to register and vote is about as controversial as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. And yet, Dan Woolenblend would have his followers all in an uproar because it’s apparently still 1654 in England.
That is to say: When slavery still existed and only landed gentry men were allowed to vote in jolly old England, which tried *really hard* to be Rome – but never quite made the cut. Cruel and horrible to every country they colonized, they destroyed every indigenous culture they came across. Even the Spaniards – horrible and genocidal as they were – at least built missions. The Brits just wanted to kill the Indians to get them out of the way. True story.
And here they are. Stuck on that miserable island with no real colonies and nowhere to go. It really must be miserable to be Dan Woolery in 2020.
#AbolishTheMonarchy
Yep. Strip the titles. Nobody gives a shit about the royals anymore.
It would be comical if someone actually followed through and did strip her title – the backlash would be amazing to watch. But it won’t happen. As other people pointed out, it just opens up too much scrutiny on the BRF. And anyway, Meghan gets her title through her husband and as we’ve seen, they don’t want to strip anything from Harry – they think they can “save” Harry and get him back to the UK.
Oh I’m enjoying reading the pushback on those two idiots. I saw a clip of Gabriella union saying that when people try to push you down/silence black people, it ends up empowering them.
That is 100% what happened with Meghan. The fact that daily mail, sun and other tabloids are losing money despite their online presence shows that they are just the loudest ones.The Twitter accounts pushing back on PM & DW are proof. It only served to empower her and harry to seek a better life.
Reading the pushback is glorious. People see the reality. H&M are not perfect, but they never claimed to be. They are two people trying to do good work to help people. When was the last time Dan or Piers ever managed that? Drag them all
They’re so obsessed with her, it’s sick!
It’s funny how not re-electing a fascist dictator would benefit the United States’ relationship with the UK but never mind all that SHES BLACK AND A WOMAN OH NO
I think this attack on Meghan by bully-reporters Piers, Dan and co. is a failed attempt to counter the global success of Omid’s book Finding Freedom which has restored the Sussexes’ public reputation as they are successfully rooting in the USA within a short time. The bullies underestimated the support H&M would receive from the American elite and media.
They are desperate to take back control of their bully narrative. The public knows it’s a distraction from sex offender prince Andrew, the economic recession, the pandemic and also the massive sales slump of UK tabloids and even the pending lawsuits of H&M against the UK tabloids.
What’s interesting to see is that their attack not only backfired on the bully-reporters themselves but also on the royal family. This decline in influence of the royal rota will also drag the royal family down because they depend on public opinion.
The royal family must reconsider their agreement with the press carefully. The leaking from the palaces could get out the royals’ control and open Pandora’s box.
It’s funny that piers and desperate Dan would tweet this on the same day it was announced quietly that Prince Andrew is to be honoured on his birthday by the ringing of the bells. Apparently the bells ring for all royals including Kate, but not harry and Meghan. What a way to not look racist. Also yesterday there was a video on twitter of a protect outside Buckingham palace with everyone chanting ‘peadophile’ . That video was not picked up by any news outlet. It’s funny how piers and desperate Dan have nothing to say on that, but are outraged by Meghan.
I don’t want to defend the bells thing because it’s a stupid tradition, but apparently they ring for the monarch and spouse, the monarch’s children and their spouses, and then they extended the rule to include William and his family. Harry never got the bells as a grandchild of the monarch.
That said, it is utterly ridiculous to ring bells for adult children of the monarch. Do it for the monarch if you want but everyone else is irrelevant. And it is especially dumb to do it for the guy who victimized sex trafficked girls.
I heard it was for the monarch and her children, didn’t know it apparently extended to William and Kate. They whole aesthetic of it looks bad, considering the trashloids proudly said the bells wouldn’t ring for Meghan. They and the firm obviously know how it will be interpreted but don’t seem to care that it looks like the Sussex’s were segregated.
Any way you look at that, what you’re saying is “it’s bad for Donald Trump if more people vote”. That’s the way it’s political. In an actual democracy, there is nothing inherently bad about saying “hey everyone! Exercise your most fundamental democratic rights, please. Remember it wasn’t always like this!” You can’t force an American back to America by treating her so badly and then get upset that she’s reminding people voting is important on the 100th anniversary of the 19th amendment.
Someone who knows more about royals than me…what does she need with a title now, anyway? If their plan is “stay in America indefinitely”? Obviously it looks and sounds bad and would probably hurt feelings, but practically what does it mean to no longer be the Duke and Duchess?
@Emily they are still Duke and Duchess of Sussex, but supposedly they can’t use HRH or any form of “Royalty” associated with their names. But they still are titled. No longer Duke or Duchess it means that they can’t represent the Queen or the monarchy unilaterally (although they are still involved with the Commonwealth).
I don’t think they care either way, they seem to be living their best lives.
Yes, when the GOP has been pushing voter suppression for years, talking about the importance of voting or expanding voting has a political aspect. I’m also pretty sure Dan & Piers didn’t think that deeply on it, though. Just another way to stir up hatred against Meghan.
Re: titles, I think they harp on “stripping their titles” because royalists & courtiers are obsessed with status & hierarchy. I really think they believe everyone else cares about made up titles, honors from the Queen, etc. They can’t grasp that no one outside royal or aristo circles cares about those things. As an American, Meghan certainly doesn’t & Harry has said he wants to be just known as “Harry.” The RR, courtiers & the rest of the family will never understand that Harry & Meghan basically said, “you have nothing that we want.” And they meant it.
Harry and Meghan have continue to act as they always have. They do not leak or smear other royals, they still follow the rules. Encouraging civic duty is fine. Piers and Dan are more unhinged by the day and people are seeing it.
Well, which would you think Meghan Markle would rather do? Staple some puffed sleeves and a bedsheet remnant to a 60 year old dress and cosplay the queen (“royal”) or make a coherent video about how important it is to vote (not “royal”). Like I don’t think the woman spends much time dithering.
And now the Fail is pushing a fake narrative that Harry and Meghan demanded a private jet and only stayed for ten minutes of the Baby2Baby event in LA. I actually emailed the organization’s PR firm asking them to put something out that would counter this BS.
Yea, the more popular twitter accounts dedicated to hating Meghan have been pushing this. Which is hilarious because it was Kate who showed up to Baby Basics in a helicopter with her private photographer Chris Jackson. There’s actual pictures and evidence of this, while they decide to rewrite the story with Meghans name despite having zero proof.
Some are saying Murky is the one that made this story up and is trying to get the tabloids to post it lol
Baby2Baby already said they stayed the whole time.
They are also saying they’ve never been engaged with her before, but they posted this account for the global baby shower. Plus the charity itself said they were there until the last child was served.
Good for you!
Also, David Simon is currently my favorite person on Twitter. I know Meghan allegedly doesn’t want to act again, but I want them to do a project together. He is hilarious.
The monarchy is so outdated! I can’t even with these inane writers / TV hosts (all complete commoners btw) who suddenly think they’re the autocrats of the peerage. She’s a free woman in a free country, and that just burns them up.
England and these navel-gazing windbags can’t bear knowing they no longer rule an empire / code for no longer getting to kill and enslave people in the name of god and king.
People are sick of hatred and anger. The Commonwealth is watching. Britain needs to get over their past as a world power and face up to the fact that they’ve a new reputation as “most racist.”
You are correct Merricat. Meghan has exposed to the whole wide world that the British are too racist. Frighteningly racist that they were able to bully out their own blood prince out of the U.K. As per Piers Morgan, #be kind.
I often wonder how this plays in Commonwealth countries. Do the people there pay any attention to what’s been happening?
Most people don’t equate the British people to the British press. Any more than they equate the American people with Donald Trump.
Thing is the American press isn’t making assholes of themselves the way the British press seems to be doing. The BM is obsessed with H&M and it’s downright scary.
Tell me more about this HRH “employment contract”, I’m very interested. Esp when when the pre-Brexit election BS was going on and NPR/BBC kept talking about it’s all just customers, there aren’t any actual rules written down.
I thought it more poignant when Meghan said 35 year old Harry had never voted. Can you imagine being that old and not being allowed to have an opinion or say on how your country is run? I can see why you have this rule for Charles and William but Harry is 6th in line. Because if who he is he can’t even run for school board. Its ridiculous.
These cocky Brits (not the rest of you good Brits) really need to lay off trying to order an American what to do.
We had a whole thing about this already, you lost, and we don’t take kindly to this. Don’t make us get the crates of tea again.
One commenter said .. the last time you lot came to Baltimore we shot your general off his bourse and wrote a song about it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was David Simon. He’s been slaying it on Twitter.
That was David Simon, creator of the Wire, among other shows.
Piers called him out for his “Baltimore bragaddocio” and as a Baltimore native, I was cackling all day at that.
First of all Meghan never mentioned Trumps name, nor is she actively campaigning against anyone. But oh my god, Piers and greasy ball Wooten unleashed the Kraken on Twitter because they were getting the most glorious dragging and smack down yesterday. It was like the battle of Yorktown all over again. David Simon from the Wire was going after Piers with such gleeful vengeance. I just have to say that these two clowns exposed to everyone the calculated attacks and sheer vicious spite Meghan had to deal with. They not only look ridiculous but their stink is wafting onto the Royal family. These recent attacks have nothing to do with what she actually said. She said very similar words in her speech on women’s suffrage and voting while in New Zealand on the down under tour. This latest reaction was triggered by a few things. Omids book is debunking a lot of their lies and reshaping the narrative. Them buying the estate, a forever home, the talk of them doing some media deals, and the Baby2Baby event, which showed how great they are interacting with people, with Harry being goofy with kids. They finally realize they won’t have that in the UK, and that they are gone. They can’t control them and they can’t control Meghan. They don’t know anything about this election apart from Biden vs.Trump and they don’t care. This backfired so much on the British media and they deserved every bit of it.
The British tabloids spends years bullying harassing Meghan telling her public if she doesn’t like their treatment of her to go back to where she Came from . They spend years convincing the British public that she not one of us they made sure to other her at every turn and now she part of the British royal family. Now that she back home all of a suddenly she part of the royal family and can’t be political . It’s all about controlling her the British tabloids don’t have a insider anymore This Faux outrageous over a American woman in courage people to vote is ridiculous . And I can’t help but think this was a coordinated effort of attack her video was released on Thursday and all of suddenly on Saturday night all hell breaks loose and every major right wing British royal reporters started attacking Meghan at the same time with the same talking about stripping her of her titles . THE venomous in the way this royal reporters go after Meghan is very sickening to watch it’s seem to me like they wanted nothing more then to see harm befall on her it’s like if they can’t control her or control the narrative the more unhinged and crazy they get it’s over the top .
It is deeply disturbing. Their “ownership” vibe makes my skin crawl. Very colonial …
I don’t know what Wooten and Piers were trying to accomplish with this attack but it brought a lot of heat and disdain to the Royal family. Do they need this kind of blowback, especially when they’re all vacationing, not really working much? It gives the perception that the royals need to give into every demand the tabloid press make and dance to their tune. Since when do the likes of Piers Morgan and Dan Wooten decide who’s gets or keeps titles?
Just regarding something said in this piece, I don’t remember at any point Prince William supporting brexit. The queen may have, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t. That’s coming from someone living in the uk, and having to follow brexit news for 3 long years.
He may not have come out and pledged his support for Brexit outright (not sure if he ever ‘hinted’ at it in any speeches or not), but there is no denying that he has hired multiple high-ranking staff members to Kensington Palace who were previously (or currently!) known for supporting the tories and brexit, with some actively working in the government and on the campaign.
That indicates that, at the very least, their support of the xenophobic, racist, white nationalist Brexit campaign was not a dealbreaker for the 2nd in line to the throne. The optics were obvious, and he did not care enough to avoid them, period. If he cared at all, he or his existing staff would have instantly recognized that hiring these people would give the perception of support, whether or not that support actually existed. After all, like 95% of being a working royal is PR and optics – they knew how it would look, and decided that Yes, this was the message they wanted to send to their (white, racist) royalists.
That’s bad enough for me, and way worse than Meghan urging people to vote because “a lot is at stake.” But let’s be real: he hired them because he shares their views, and his goal is to, however subtly, support and encourage the growth of these political leanings through his work as a royal. This extends to everything coming out of KP – for example, Kate’s “Broken Britain” campaign was a dogwhistle to a speech given by a notorious conservative UK leader, clearly referencing the same anti-immigrant, racist rhetoric that the tories and the Brexit campaign champion.
This is not a coincidence. This is not an accident. This is the feature, not the bug, and quite frankly it adds another layer of “duh” as to why the progressive, biracial American was not welcomed with open arms by people whose entire existence is dedicated to eradicating people like her from their society.
I think a common goal between trump, brexit and the right wing media is to normalise racism and other bigotry. They are attempting to reverse the last 50 years of progression. I think William and Kate are definitely a tool to represent the ideal ‘white’ family. All the courtiers at KP have isolated the Cambridge’s, so only right wing racists and baby boomers like them. Liberals have abandoned the Cambridge’s for the Sussex’s, so now for the Cambridge’s to stay relevant they have to pander to their white supremacist supporters pushing them even further to the right. They are basically used by the right wing government to push their ideals, whether they know it or not.
@Chilicat, people are largely basing that off of what little we know of his personal politics, which is said to lean quite a lot towards the Tories (not just in a “they’re good for the monarchy” kind of way either).
I would like someone to explain the difference between peerage and royalty. I saw an interesting comment which made me wonder the following:
If Meghan and Harry are no longer senior working royals and cannot use their HRH do the various actual and made-up-just-for-them protocols actually apply now
Are all the Dukes and other peers in the UK prevented from being “political”
Does hiring immediately past members/associates of a political party show partisanship
I wonder if anyone is telling the royal family how they are being perceived by members of the commonwealth
@Islandgirl. I keep wondering about how people of color in the Commonwealth view this. I know not everyone cares or keeps up with this type of fake news, but for those that do pay attention, what’s the perception?
My Island is part of the Commonwealth and the strange thing is that most people see that Harry and Meghan were treated badly by the media and the BRF.
Even if they disagree with some of the decisions Harry and Meghan made.
But those are the older people…the young people are not interested in anything royal at all.
I think that Harry and Meghan were the BRF’s best chance to capture the attention of young people.
Island Girl, these people are acting like there isn’t a whole House of Lords in Parliament.
I hope Meghan and Harry continue to just keep on keeping and doing their thing because they do it better than just about any other royal right now. While all the others are on their continued staycation, these two are out there making a difference to the best of their abilities and the BM want to crush them, Meghan in particular for existing while Black and royal. It doesn’t matter about the HRH because no one calls her that here. Meghan and Harry, Harry and Meghan, M and H, H and M, Archies parents, Archies mummy and daddy. Diana’s second son and his American wife. Any and all of these identify these two more than their titles now. So take the titles, they don’t need them and the more they keep asking to strip them of their titles the more powerful they become without them and the further diminished the BRF becomes. Keep it up BM and BRF, you are creating legends in your attempts at destroy them.
I love that dress Meghan’s wearing, anyone has an id on that?
The black long-sleeved dress is Givenchy. The white sleeveless dress is by Australian designer Karen Gee.
Thanks. I already have the white dress, got it when she did the tour. I might have to treat myself to the Givenchy.
@BnLurkN4eva Nice–I’m jealous!
Remember the Yorks princess attending the parties for Boris Johnson and attending his celebration. But you know they are white blood princes and tha’s ok. sh*tty racist people….
Sorry. but 99.9% of the population of Britain are totally unaware that Meghan made this speech.
The DM is just one of the 4-5 gossip rags with subscriptions edging a million. The DM actually has more than 1 million daily readers paying to read that garbage. Approximately 10% of the citizens are loud and clear racists who heard about this speech. I greatly doubt most of them even listened to it.
Exactly because the speech has nothing to do with Britain, which is why it’s ridiculous for those two old trolls to be making a stink about it. They have absolutely no reason to even comment on what she does as an American citizen on her own time.
I wish that were true, but the Mail and the Sun are the most read papers in the UK for some reason. I’m not ready to go to war with England again, but we have to stop pretending that Piers Morgan and Dan Wooton are yelling at brick walls. They have an audience that eats this stuff up.
Just my opinion but if an American citizen who is currently residing in America and thus bound by American laws marries a British prince, she does not, by virtue of marriage, lose the FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN RIGHT to discuss her beliefs. If she were living in Britain or another commonwealth, I think they may push some kind of argument on the basis of the laws governing the country in which she resides, however this is not the case, and therefore, America wins. You can stop clutching your pearls now.
Nobody is clutching any pearls
Uh @Jolie maybe you missed the Dan W, and Piers show yesterday. They had their pearls clutched so tight I’m surprised they could still breathe.
There are no laws preventing members of the royal family from voting. It is simply a convention that the Queen does not vote. And therefore the no politics thing is a polite fiction ignored by most of the royals. As with other protocol “breaches” it is applied in one way for Meghan and not to the white members.
She’s American and has a right to vote. Marrying Harry didn’t change any of that. But they are trying to control her speech in another country. She’s not getting involved in UK politics by telling Americans to go vote.
Meghan has spoken:
https://twitter.com/janeygodley/status/1297264616444170240?s=21
(C/o Janey Godley)
Love it…LMAO. Thanks for posting.
You just know that Piss Organ has a very unhealthy crush on her.
Go Meghan go, infuriate the gammons until they implode!
And troll Meghan doesn’t care your titles. She and Harry have eclipsed their titles. And the royal family. That is why the racists in the population, the royals and the media can t shit the eff off about her and him. They left, you chased them out which is America’s gain now piss off into the daily heil arms.
Dear troll, you seemed bothered by the look of that chapter of pure crappy you just wrote. Meghan left the UK to the US, her own country and the woman was American before she married Harry and is still American today, she can encourage her own country men and women to go vote. Take your exit to the left to the daily heil to spout this rubbish. As a Brit I am the least offended by Meghan and Harry who haven’t been offensive not even once and most offended by the KKK level of racism in the UK. And the royal family and the Dorian press. Most offensive your defence of a nonce and the mother who protects him. Shame on you. Now go away.
Troll.
I was actually going to respond to your comment, but there was SO much about it that was inaccurate, I decided to not. But apparently I can’t help myself.
Meghan Markle came into her marriage – a marriage to a man, not an institution, with a life-long reputation as someone who gives back to her community and the people surrounding her. There are legions of stories of her good works from people from elementary school all the way through her acting career. Because a bunch of bitter old hags on twitter says she’s selfish doesn’t change her actual history. She arrived in the UK fully formed with millions of people who already admired her for good reasons. Andrew Morton spent two full years in LA trying to get people to spill any dirt on her – even offering cash rewards! – and got NOTHING.
She was hunted throughout her marriage and pregnancy. Othered – made to look less than human; her infant was depicted as a chimp when he was three days old. With the help of the RF, the media ripped her reputation to shreds and she’ll have to spend the rest of her life knowing that there are morons like you that believe a right-wing caricature. That you think somehow that a title, fame (which she already had) and fortune (which she had already earned) are the pinnacle of what people desire in life says more about your values than hers. Clearly what Meghan desires is a platform to use her voice for positive change – which she has been doing for the past 30 years – and respect. Those are the things she holds valuable.
She has treated the Queen with more respect than she deserves. She spoke out about the importance of voting – which is not political. She didn’t endorse anyone. It is nothing that Betty herself hasn’t done in the past. It is nothing that the Pow hasn’t done in the past. Certainly Andrew has thrown his “weight” around over the years in political moves with shady, shady characters. She is no longer using her HRH, she is no longer representing the queen, and she will no longer allow her voice to be stifled by idiots in thrall to avracist, right-wing narrative fed to them by Murdoch and his ilk. Nobody is going to steal this woman’s voice again.
Go back to the bitter old hags on twitter who have nothing else to do but ramp up and make money off your bitter, bigoted hatred. You’ll be more comfortable there because you don’t need to think beyond your obvious biases.
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I applaud the staff who moderate this site. The constant troll attacks are like the deatheaters trying to penetrate Hogwarts defenses.
lol, it’s great to come early in the post because you get to see all the replies as they appear, and after refreshing to read the new posts you notice some of them deleted.
@CrazyHeCallsMe, I cackled at that analogy, but it is so true.
It’s getting too tiresome the innuendos echoing the same hate and insults he did this, she said that, how dare her a never ending saga, This 56 Yr old Piers pitifully and badly in need of validation is in his 2nd marriage was really trying to get his buddy riled . His recent comments of him poorly handling of the pandemic in the US got in his feelings so he blocked him from his twitter.
This guy is reaching flexing his wannabe royal narcissistic muscles in his bully platform the same way he does in the UK. During his buddy’s last London visit in June he literally threw Meghan under the bus 2nd month after giving birth and on Maternity leave. Complains how she didn’t attend the banquet hosted by the queen but did the Trooping the Color. He had a sit down interview at day 5 of his visit again to smear Meghan the topic in a 2015 which she said POTUS was divisive and misogynistic and he replied he didn’t know she made such nasty comments but piers ran the twisted story saying she was nasty even when he denied saying such. This time around he wouldn’t get away with his smear and utter nonsense .
I’m so sick of hearing about the royal family, including Meghan but damn this made me happy. Girl left the family, she’s an American and she can say whatever she wants when she wants.
I’m sick of hearing about them but damn I’ve never been so glad they left that racist, toxic, inbred family.
I am going to predict a collaboration between David Simon and the future Sussex production company. For those who don’t know, Wendell Pierce has worked with Simon on both the Wire and Treme and of course he knows Meghan from playing her father on Suits.
It was like David Simon took over twitter for the day so the Sussex Squad could rest up. He was savage and marvelous.
I’m reading David Simon on Twitter and it is a thing of beauty to see how he’s blowing the haters out of the water. He’s eviscerating them and leaving the bodies in his wake. And pro-Twitter response is glorious.
Sorry if my comment repeats twice, I’m having some problems posting tonight.
He is still going! I am exhausted for him. But I imagine he feels energized by his draggings, lol
I’m reading David Simon on Twitter now and it is a thing of beauty to see how he’s blowing the haters out of the water.
I get it! Ronald Dump can make a statement calling her “nasty” without repercussions, but she is too Royal to be able to encourage voting and say that we need change here in the US. Yeah, makes total sense.
They should just give up the title now. Really…what is it worth anymore? The title itself is a connotation of everything they don’t stand for anyways: an archaic family that has built their legacy on colonizing and marginalizing all over the world and exploiting territories and people. The whole commonwealth tour is also just a way for them to flaunt their success in acquiring all of these “territories”, and in reality most of the time the monarchy has derived more benefit than done anything for the people of these territories. Honestly, their message would stand stronger if they disengaged from the royal family. What benefit do they get now…some popularity? fame? at a price that seems really high. Money probably is the biggest problem now…and even with Harry’s inheritance, the amount of work they want to do and the lifestyle they keep needs $$$. As for Meghan…she seems like she married for love despite all the obstacle. if Girlfriend thought this was a quick way to fame…she probably regrets it now. I think if Meghan has learned anything, it’s that there is racial disparity in the UK and throw classism and elitism on top of that and she will never be accepted.
What exactly is your point, besides being condescending? She didn’t marry for fame or money. She had a nice set up in life. The point of this current nasty attack is not for them to give up their titles, but for them to be stripped of their titles. They don’t want them to have any say in it. That is the point. That is why they are so angry. Its about wanting to control and humiliate them, so the likes of Piers and Wooten are angry they left, angry they refuse to deal with them, angry they have connections and prominent friends, angry they bought a house and are making plans, angry they are not invisible and don’t answer to the BRF or the tabloids. As for money, stay out of their wallet. Let them worry about their finances, and you worry about yours girlfriend.
Meghan wasn’t worried about being accepted by the toffs or she would have tried harder to fit in.
Kate is the one who wants to be accepted but never will. Not because her parents party tat business, or even the fact that her mother was from the council estates, but because she’s from coal miner stock.
There are working and middle class British people who are cash poor and work odd jobs but they have the ancestry they can pull out (my great great great was a lady/general/cousin of duke), kate doesn’t.
She can’t shake that.
It reminds me of the movie mean girls: “meghan left and they (aristocrats) still don’t want you! “
Harry is a blood born Prince and that is not going to change even when his father and brother become King. Meghan EARNED those flipping titles after being bullied over the last four years and why would she give them up, because some folks don’t want her with Harry?
One article stated earlier this week that because the Sussex-Harry and Meghan-would not play ball with the British press if you can call it that-they intend to make their lives miserable as possible-she is an american-she does have free speech-she is on american soil-and she made a statement to encourage voting to celebrate the suffrage movement-she did not tell anyone who to vote for-people can probably guest her preference-when bullies cannot control someone or something they become irrational that borders on insanity-SHITGIBBONS PIERS MORGAN AND DAN WOOTEN ARE DOING THE BIDDING OF LOYAL ROYALISTS TO KEEP THEIR NAMES IN THE HEADLINES AND TO KEEP WORKING ON BEING DISGUSTING AND VILE-MORE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT READ ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO MEGHAN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS WILL DEFINITELY READ ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO HER IN THE NAME OF WHITE SUPREMACY1
As a Brit living in Northern England the royal family have little to no impact on our daily lives. Most of us are far more concerned with Covid 19, huge job loses between Brexit and the virus. The British press going after Meghan is unjustifiable. There is widely confusion as to why Andrew is still not given interview to the police. It makes him look increasingly complicit at best, criminal at worst. But there again given his interview previously, who knows what he’d inadvertently let slip. No wonder his lawyers would want him nowhere near!
I had such high hopes that Meghan would bring some much needed fresh air and relevance. She speaks so eloquently compared to Kate! Meghan was choosing charities, going above and beyond the normal royals, like to cookbook and clothing range. Things that would actually have a real impact and raising diversity and women’s issues. My 17 year old daughter actually was interested in what she had to say.
Compared to Kate, who beyond producing the next heir and spare has been largely pointless. What can Kate actually point to that was hers? A questionnaire that a school kid could write in 5 mins? A garden seat to look at the stars? In all those years she’s been worse than lazy! Both her and William’s stats for royal engaments are dreadful for the future king and queen.
Okay. So do it. Take away the HRH, take away their title as Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Make them just plain old Mr. and Mrs. Henry (Wales) Mountbatten-Windsor. What does that do? Does it diminish them, to be commoners? That’s certainly what Piers Morgan thinks, doesn’t he? And Dan Wooten? That all people care about are titles, and status. As if by taking these away, they’d be bringing them down somehow.
Do it. I dare them.
Why cant they summon this degree of outrage for Andrew the pedophile