The Duchess of Sussex name-checked Gloria Steinem as someone she knows in that voting-rights video last week. I thought it was just a general statement, like they had met years ago or something like that. But Meghan had a secret: she had already met Steinem and recorded a video and a Q&A session with Steinem for MAKERS. It was described by the group as a “historic backyard chat.” Whose backyard though?? Is that Gloria’s backyard? And did Gloria tell Meghan to bring her dogs? Pula is so big (and so hot) and Guy is just doing beagle things.
Anyway, the clip which has been released isn’t some huge groundbreaking thing. Meghan isn’t saying “vote Biden-Harris” but obviously she’s not NOT saying that either. Gloria Steinem has long been a feminist icon and women’s rights icon and the conversation is just about how important it is for women, especially younger women, to vote. Gloria does say “I’m so glad that you’re home.” Meghan’s response: “Thank you. Me too, for some many reasons.”
I can’t wait for all of the renewed hysteria from Piers Morgan and the like. The more they make Meghan’s words into a huge “controversy,” the more people are paying attention to how badly she was treated and how badly she’s still being treated.
Photos courtesy of MAKERS and WENN.
Can’t wait to watch the full talk!
The residents of certain palaces will be frothing at the mouth. Cue hit pieces from the attack dogs – FattyPissy, Fattyootoon, The KayOne, CamelToe and the ratty haired royat. That they badly underestimated the capabilities and reach of the biracial one looks so bad on the men in grey suits and their charges. I look forward to what M will do next.
Didn’t one of the palace aids snark that “perhaps Meghan could start her own beauty line” after the Sussexes left? Lol…bet they’re all “incandescent with rage now”.
The beauty line quip is prescient. I will be the first in the queue to buy her products. It will be amazing to see what people meant for evil turn into a runaway success.
First since Charles sells organic food I don’t see much of a difference in Meghan selling beauty aids. But, I am sure it was meant as a snide insult from the grey goblins. But also, I would buy anything from her skincare line!
If she ever did, you know that it would benefit their patronages and favorite charities.
What’s funny is that the courtiers are upset because they just don’t have the connections nor brains to set this kind of thing up. They also know that their charges aren’t capable of having these types of serious conversations without index cards.
Also, I love Meghan’s hat. Cool girl chic.
Yes, that’s what happens if you lock yourself in your own world. What is right and wrong is determined by a small group and all the sycophants (or people just wanting to do their job without getting bullied) will re-affirm what you say.
I’ve seen this in a Big Brother competition too. Everyone ganged up on two participants. They thought they were the popular ones. However, the general public loathed their behavior, while they clearly thought they were the cool ones. They only got their reality check after they were voted out one by one.
Get the popcorn for the massive courtiers and “sources” tantrums.
I mean it’s amazing. This is the most expert level trolling I have ever seen. She knows what the response is going to be and dgaf. It’s just superb in that by just doing work and being a decent human she is able to bring an entire news core to drink.
Right?!?! She came to play and they don’t even know the name of the game
I love meghan, but seriously there is too much hair, i hope the hairdresser tones it down. But I love the setting and she definitely looks happy and we kinda know why she’s happy to be back lol
My only quibble, way too much hair.
I really have to admire that her response is to keep leveling up, knowing that it’s going to continually drive the trolls out of their tiny minds. A very elegant FU to them all.
Piers and Dan got MAJOR pushback from their ridiculous comments. People are really starting to see the hate and racism Meghan had to put up with in the U.K.
I can’t wait to see the rest of this conversation. I loved seeing the dogs!
It was delicious to see the push back. One of the few times social media has been a force for good.
Both of them are idiots. You can’t keep attacking someone while blatantly ignoring the closets and closets full of skeletons that is the BRF and think people will be stupid enough to keep falling for it or are not aware of the BS. They’ve made it to a point that not even the outrage is working anymore and is only building her more support.
Can you share more details? I didn’t know this and would love to hear more!
Piers is just mad that he couldn’t use Meghan to his benefit. He’s obsessed with her because she was supposed to be his connect to get into America again, which is his ultimate dream. He looked at her and saw the money. That’s why the rest of them are angry because Meghan was the new Diana to them. The editor of Tatler even admitted he was obsessed with her. To the rota and media, Meghan was the money train that got away from them and they’re pissed.
Exactly. I read Morgan had harassed Diana in his paper until she finally invited him to KP. Most of these people are just mad that their tactic of bad press until they got access they wanted didn’t result in a Frogmore cottage invite this time. Ingrid Seward talked about that& how Diana would invite reporters for tea when press was bumpy.
But William noted in that Diana anniversary that you couldn’t let press in too near. So can’t blame Harry for not wanting to play that access game when it would probably would have diminishing returns because of his spare status.
Morgan was on their Instagram when exit was announced saying they were ex royals and recently said they were irrelevant so why would Meghan urging her fellow Americans to vote (and she discussed women’s suffrage& importance of women getting the vote as a working royal in New Zealand) have any impact on the royal family?
But I t’s their own fault. They dehumanized her and drove her away. Why’d they expect her to stay there and take all the crap they were hurling at her? It’s mind boggling the disconnect.
For years they’ve gotten what that they wanted out of celebrities and royals with this method of hounding. They never had anyone stand up to them and take them head on like Meghan and Harry has.
When you simply look at Piers ‘ghosting’ claims from a logical point its so ridiculous. So they communicated for a bit,met up shared a drink and then she decided she didnt want to pursue a serious friendship. Is that a CRIME??? Or maybe her new boyfriend Harry told her ‘becareful of that one or I dont feel comfortable with this friendship’ and she took her mans advice. How many new people do we meet in life and after a short time you gather this persons energy is not for me?
She was there ON BUSINESS FOR SUITS, meeting media/journalists is getting some publicity for her job. Not *her* fault that dog wanted things to be more personal. I believe once Harry filled her in on Pissed Morgan and his ‘Journalistic history” Meghan gave him a WIDE berth. And naturally, the wounded beast’s ego took it as personal rejection on a sexual level.
He is just upset he wasn’t invited to the wedding. He was praising her when she first got engaged. He said she was classy and was a wonderful fit for the family, etc.. Only when she didn’t invite him did he do a complete 180. Apparently, if you meet someone only once, you can be invited to a wedding. He was delusional to think he would get an invite.
Exactly (TheOG) Jan90067. She was doing as instructed by the producers – get foreign press interested in Suits by sending them recordings, agreeing to interviews. That’s all it was. Piers desperately wanted it to be personal, but it was always business on Meghan’s part.
I suppose this video is the equivalent of the middle finger in Duchess expressions. On a serious note, hopefully everyone will go out and vote like you’re on the cusp of 1933. The global pendulum needs to swing away from the right for the sake of democracies and rights around the world.
Great comment, both regardIng Meghan, and the danger we are facing if we don’t vote. Too many people think that fascism and Nazi Germany only happened from around 1939 until the end of the war in 1945. The lead-up was just as perilous then as the situation we find ourselves in now.
The rise of fascism and the Nazi party is an interesting time in history. A well orchestrated campaign was masterminded to transform Germany into a fascist state. It did not happen overnight.
For anyone familiar with these events, no doubt they can recognise many similarities in today’s political climate. There were also many opportunities at the time to stop Hitler and turn things around. This is why it is important for everyone to vote this year. There is no superhero or super candidate coming to save you. You have to save yourself and vote fascism out – this is what’s at stake.
I’m no expert but I’ve read a few books about this and you are so right. The lead-up to the Second World War started in many ways at the end of World War One and there are some historians who say they are really one war. Hitler came along and through some luck and some skill was able to really sense the mood of the German people and feed off it – just like Trump is able to do.
I just finished listening to a book just about the 12 month lead up to the war, and it was amazing to read that Hitler was assessing the whole time whether the German people would support him in a war. I guess the upshot for me is that the war didn’t just happen – democracy had to be eroded and people had to be made comfortable with the idea before it could really happen. And that is what is so scary about Fox News, Trump, etc.
Wow! Very much looking forward to her conversation with Gloria Steinem!! She looks so relaxed and overall refreshed. Freedom looks great on her. Also happy to see she used a videographer of color! I’m really happy they’ve left. I don’t think these types of conversations, these type of settings would’ve been possible otherwise.
It was sweet of Gloria to say “I’m so glad that you’re home,” it’s like she was letting Meghan know she acknowledged and understood the bs Meghan endured in the UK.
and loved meghan’s classic response. she is giving them the royal middle finger for sure.
Mtec, I also think that’s exactly what Gloria meant, without actually using the words. Ironically, the more the royal family and the UK press try to make Meghan ‘irrelevant’ and ‘without the royal title she is nothing’, they have made Meghan one of the most powerful women in the world at the moment. I can’t think of any other woman who has so much influence and gets so much press. Good for her!
Well would you look at that, the ‘totally irrelevant’ Sussexes who ‘need the BRF more than the BRF needs them’ seem to actually be quite popular. Gasp. Oh this is killing me, I love it so much and she’s putting her voice to wonderful causes too. Keep it up.
There was a troll comment on Gloria Steinem’s Instagram today bashing her for being seen with Meghan, and saying that the only reason Meghan has been interacting with all the heavy hitters and the charities is that she invited herself in, that she wasn’t contacted, and that the only reason she’s included is because she married Prince Harry. Do these idiots not realize that everyone of these people and charities could have said no to her? They weren’t obligated to see her, and yet they have. I guess it’s going to be the new line of attack, claiming Meghan pushed her way in. 🙄
The thing is Meghan has no objection to “ pushing herself in”, demanding a seat at the table or making your own table . Why are they even making this a thing?
Meghan can actually keep up with the conversation unlike most royals and she doesn’t need to propped up because she has something to offer in terms of ideas. The conversation doesn’t need to be dumbed down when she’s at the table. And many are jealous of that.
Who is the intended audience of this? Im inclined to believe anyone interested in tuning in already understands the importance voting. Idk, these conversations tend to condescend to us ordinarily folk, erase disenfranchised people, and ignore the nuances behind why many people who don’t vote view non-voting as a preferred/viable option. I personally prefer more active advocacy and for rich people to leverage their resources to actually help people. See: LeBron’s campaign to combat voter suppression.
This comment is obviously based on presumption, so I’m happy to eat my words if this leads to something impactful. Also, this is not to negate any of the work either of them has done in this space, just genuinely curious about the purpose of this particular convo.
Voter apathy is very common among youth so if this video is able to inspire one person to vote who was not going to, then it did its job. We also need to stop this practice of discouraging people (and in this case women) from using their voice because of their wealth or fame. Everyone should be able to participate in civic and other political discourses. Moreover, this is an important election year, don’t be fooled into thinking you already have this in the bag.
All of those are have been aimed at people who are newly eligible to vote this election. That’s also why they had Cardi B with Biden. So many young adults really don’t believe their vote counts, or will decide to sit the election out because Bernie or Elizabeth aren’t on the ballot. That’s what messed us up last time. I think Meghans choice to focus on suffrage is smart because this is a very Human Rights-Protest Driven generation. The reminder that people actively don’t want them to vote and to remind them that so many people fought so hard against the government to allow it is a motivating factor to those who are feeling jaded about politics. They may not believe in politicians or trust the government, but they do believe in Human Rights.
I’m baffled that people didn’t learn their lesson from 2016.
That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the strong anti-intellectualism in the US is partly aimed at keeping young people away from politics.
I think the intended audience are young woman who look up to & identify with Meghan. Young adults tend not to vote. The importance of voting is the theme of this election, the DNC convention highlighted it every night.. The more influential people who use their platform to get the message out the better. This alone isn’t going to fix it but it a cumulative effect.
Same reason Cardi B sat down with Joe Biden; why do think was the reason behind this? every single audience people like Cardi B or Meghan can reach out to, is important!
What King James is doing is extraordinary…….people need to vote. Joe Biden being president is not going to make things better right away but it will be better than the hole we currently found ourselves in
of course, the purpose of this convo is to spread Black Girl Magic all over the world. Literal magic. Because of course, if black women aren’t showing their magical powers, than what is the point of them talking at all? So have yourself a nice word sandwich because after Meghan and Gloria solve climate change and create world peace, they will single-handedly turn the Rocky Mountains into candy and plant money trees all over California.
Oh. Oops. I’m sorry I misunderstood you. Meghan and Gloria were supposed to speak directly to YOU Taylor. Because of course, YOU are the abitrator of all, and YOU get to determine what nuances of voting get ignored. I suggest you submit your list of instructions for how they can leverage their resources more effectively.
It’s funny that you mention that this might be presumption, because that’s exactly what you’re doing here. Erasing the voices of women by holding them to a standard of achievement so narrow it’s impossible to fulfil without, you know, magic. Unlike Lebron, who of course, will be driving every voter to the polls in his limo like Santa Claus, all at once at the same time.
These conversations are advocacy.
They are a way to connect to disenfranchised women who feel hopeless, who feel as if they lack agency in many areas of their lives. They stress the importance of voting for women, and that we all must be engaged, and we must all participate. It’s just 1 facet of the enormous fight we have ahead of us to make sure this election is fair. Maybe you forgot this, but Meghan is a member of the British royal family. That she’s doing this important work is really courageous, because many people would say she shouldn’t be speaking about elections at all. She is still limited by what she can do, but she’s still willing to do her part, which is to use her platform to encourage Americans to participate in our democratic process.
Taylor you have clearly annoyed me, because you’re pulling that same old same old “sure, I’d support a woman–so long as she behaves EXACTLY according to my completely impossible to meet standards that I would never apply to a man. Oops, she didn’t make it, so bye bye little lady!” This absolves you of any need to investigate your own biases (and I doubt you’d feel the same about Lebron hosting a similar conversation with, say, Chris Cuomo). I don’t know if you’re a dude (my suspicion) or a “cool girl who’s not like other girls b/c you don’t do drama”, but if you are genuinely curious and not semi-trolling, then take a moment to be a little more self-aware. If you can do that without centering yourself and succumbing to your petty little outrage, then buy yourself a cookie. Maybe you learned something today.
Okay… Any maybe you should consider why you’re the only person thus far to take my comment personally (i.e. centering yourself and succumbing to your petty little outrage). For what it’s worth, I’m a black woman, ardent womanist, and genuine supporter of Meghan, so to make these sweeping assumptions about me and my character for being even a little critical (mostly curious, but not at all outraged) about this approach to voter outreach, is bizarre. I’ve in no way attempted to restrict the autonomy of these women, to silence them, or even shame them — I simply asked what the political goal was. Thanks to the commenters who replied in good faith — fair enough.
Also, just because I’m less convinced that using celebrities as influencers is an effective way to address voter apathy (see: 2016), doesn’t mean I think I’m the arbitrator of all political agency. I just recognize resources are scarce, and those with plenty tend to be most effective when bringing them to the table.
@Taylor I agree with you that using celebrities is not necessarily the most effective way to address voter apathy. Where I see things differently perhaps is that I see it as one among many other ways to conduct voter outreach. The video was filmed in a backyard and released on social media which means that both women created their own spaces to have this discussion. They did not take it away from someone else.
If you are a black woman, than this surely isn’t the first time you’ve heard such a “I like her, but” response. We hear those over. and. over. again. And nope, I’m not the only one who takes exception to your comment, dude (no gender implied). You set yourself up as the arbitrator of political agency when you said these conversations arent necessary because “you’re inclined to believe that anyone tuning in is already understands the importance of voting.” In other words, I say there’s no need to have these conversations, so why have them? Your words, bro. (again, no gender implied). We’re in the fight of our lives this November. Surely you know that large movements are made up of the confluence of small efforts. What I took exception to was your implication that Meghan and Gloria might as well shut up because their conversation won’t help. That’s a pretty logical conclusion to draw from your literal words. And if you really are a black woman who’s a fan of Meghan, surely you would know that there’s been a large effort to silence her whenever she speaks up at all. So it’s in that context that you annoyed me. You sounded like another one of those on the surface woke-seeming white dudes who give lip service to supporting women but who, in truth, prefer the status quo.
Not voting is not a viable option, It takes such ridiculous privilege to say something like that, that I question everything in your post. And @taylor sounds like a classic dudebro.
This is very well articulated. Are you a lawyer or journalist. I respect people who communicate as well as you do here
@Taylor, This is just one voice in a much bigger conversation and the stakes are very high. Find the person who appeals to you and will combat your apathy. Check out Stacy Abrams. She’s is very on point with issues of voter suppression and access to the polls, a total policy wonk. She participated in the same 19Th summit Meghan was at. Raising awareness goes hand in hand with action.
@Taylor
Obama himself said the central strategy to voter suppression is discouraging people from voting. He and Michelle have been out there giving speeches and interviews about the importance of voting and how powerful the youth and “minorities” votes can prove to be. Do you find them saying that “condescending” as well?
No, not everyone that’s their target audience for this interview knows the importance of voting, otherwise they wouldn’t be having that conversation, specially because the Republicans have been working to make it harder and harder to hold fair elections—it’s very discouraging to see that, and many people will have to try and go the extra mile (in some cases literally) in order to vote and they might feel too discouraged to do so. It’s also important to see intersectionality between two feminists working, because that’s been lacking as well.
Also, it’s not just their target audience that will watch this interview. Many eyes are on Meghan and everything she does gets reported by various different outlets, even the ones operated by her detractors, but that doesn’t matter as long as the message is being shared. It may even motivate others who see how much anger this conversation spurs from ignorant and racist/sexist groups, to really do something after seeing how much they’re scared of two powerful women talking about voting.
There are many reasons why conversations like these are are important and necessary. This actually is one way to practice “active advocacy.”
@ Mtec, I agree with you wholeheartedly. If we can use people that have a greater audience, like the Obamas, the celebrities or artists that have a much larger audience to encourage people to get out and VOTE, I am all for it! It’s critical that everyone that is able to vote, to do so as we have had too many people sit out of elections depending on others to vote to make the changes that the country needs! It’s a critical time and there are NO excuses for people not to vote. I am bedridden, but I vote in every election. This year though, I am opting to vote by mail due to my health. We must also address the fact the fact that the GOP has made a concerted effort to defy the disenfranchised, the gerrymandering and the current administration plans to police all polling stations which reads as the disenfranchised movement in the ‘60’s that whites used to physically pressure POC from voting. If there was ever a time in our lifetimes how critical the power to vote is, it is NOW!
I’m not sure what your word salad is supposed to be saying @taylor but to paraphrase Common “If our vote didn’t mean anything, they would not being trying so hard to take it away from us”. Us meaning anyone who is opposed to the current regime. Whether it’s through apathy to downright voter suppression and voter roll purging the other side is actively working hard to steal this election for Trump. We need the Meghan’s, Glorias and all the regular-degular folk to work harder than ever.
I think this message is intended for the Sussexstans, who worship the ground M & H walk on. And since Americans are so influenced by celebrities I think this video is likely to do more good than harm in encouraging reluctant Sussexstans to vote. My question is why is a video encouraging people to vote centered on Meg and Gloria Steinem. One woman fought for the ERA and the other married a prince who lives off the ill gotten gains his family stole from Brits and Black and Brown people. It just seems like a weird pairing.
Meghan is more than just her husband’s wife. She only married her husband in 2018 but has a past record of activism, starting from the age of 10. Though her platform became bigger as a result of marriage, her message has not changed. She is an advocate for women empowerment. She is an outspoken feminist. She has advocated for the political participation of women, which included a high-level speech at the United Nations. No one can take that away from her regardless of who she marries or who she sleeps with.
@Gig. Taylor was more subtle while you express the same bs as her far more openly.
If open hate and faux outrage doesn’t work, minimize and dismiss. Taylor’s post was like a template.
Her marrying a prince erased the previous 36 years of her life? A life spent getting a degree in international studies, doing women-focused humanities work, speaking about voting as an ambassador for the UN, campaigning for equal pay, etc? And then she carried the same focus over to her work as a Duchess. Is she supposed to drop something she’s spent the majority of her life on just because you, Gig, think she doesn’t deserve to speak on such topics?
Here’s an idea, maybe research MM’s life BEFORE she met Harry.
Because Gig, every voice counts. There was some RNC speaker last night saying that she believes in head of household voting, i.e. women should defer to their husbands and let him vote on their behalf, basically stripping millions of women of ballot access. So while you are trying to shame and criticize a woman for daring to speak because of who she is married to, to basically erase and belittle her life before him, how is that any different than saying women should give up their vote for a man? That’s what it sounds like you’re saying. You are letting your personal animus and racial resentment get in your own way.
I mean, if we’re really going to nitpick in this fashion, it’s worth mentioning that Gloria Steinem collaborated with the CIA in the 50s and 60s, an organization that is built for the explicit purpose of legitimizing American theft of resources in the developing world. She admitted it in her book, going so far as to defend her association with them, stating, “In my experience [the CIA] was completely different from its image; it was liberal, nonviolent and honorable.”
But then again, it makes sense that you don’t know about this, and don’t care, and don’t want to bring it up, because your purpose is to be disingenuous, and slander a biracial black woman for no reason.
Gig, because every vote counts the same in America. So someone who fought for the ERA and someone who merely married her way into royalty (which isn’t true, but even if that WAS her one and only accomplishment or claim to fame), each have the same amount of say in this election. They each get one vote and we need the ERA-advocating Glorias and her politically savvy, intelligently activist fans and followers just as much as we need the supposedly talentless, infamous by way of tabloid, mere wife of an overly privileged Prince of the UK and all of her fashion-obsessed, entertainment news reading fans and followers (Again, not my actual opinion, but even if it WAS true). You yourself say that you think that this video is meant for Sussex stans and will likely reach them. So….. what’s the problem? Sussex Stan votes count the same as Steinem follower votes. Meghan’s vote counts the same as Gloria’a vote.
meghan is not only harry’s wife and archie’s mother. she has always given back to her community so that comment is unfair and untrue. no one forced gloria steinhem to come by and chat with meghan. she did it anyway so whats the problem with that? the fact you say sussexstans like that shows your own personal bias.
Your jealousy and bitterness is so palpable lmao.
We have a lunatic in the White House. This election is an “all hands on deck” situation. I am happy to see any celebrity who is intelligent and measured using their platform to encourage people to vote.
I read that the program was responsible for registering over 300,000 people to vote. Clearly someone was listening to them.
Not to discount the very valid point made about disenfranchisement, but the issue of voter apathy is real, and can turn an election. They’re trying to reach the folks who are threatening to sit this one out because “Trump, Biden… they’re all the same!” Which is absolute bollocks, but whatever.
@Taylor & Gig – neither Meghan nor Gloria are “celebrities” per se. Gloria is and has always been a strong, dedicated advocate for women’s empowerment for over 50 years – FIFTY YEARS – and you’ve reduced her to a mere “celebrity”. Meghan has been a powerful advocate, in her spare time no less, speaking for women’s rights. Yes she’s a celebrity by virtue of being on a successful TV show, but that’s not all she does. You seem to be ignoring all the meaningful things she’s done and issues she’s highlighted pre-Harry when she wasn’t nearly as well known.
To paint both these amazing women as mere celebrities, or to brush off Meghan as nothing without Harry, diminishes the power they have to encourage everyone to speak up, vote, make their disenfranchisement known, and to give them some much needed encouragement and confidence to try to make a difference in their lives and others’.
To belittle Harry for the sins of his forebears is a cheap shot when it’s apparent he was more than willing to step out of the BRF and pursue dreams other than playing polo, hanging out with the aristos and marrying some dreary toff-ette with a pedigree.
@Gloria, I agree with as far as the movements combating voter apathy are concerned. However, wrt your question about how the audience for this discussion is, I think it’s to gain attention and focus for the cause, in an effort to hopefully push people towards the sort of active advocacy that you speak of. You can’t get to that point, if you don’t know that the problem itself exists, or that it needs to be addressed. That, I think, is what most of the celeb endorsements for these sorts of things are about. Getting attention, making headlines, etc.
Maybe, as you say, the people who would tune into this are already the people planning to vote, so this conversation isn’t persuading those who watch it to do something they didn’t already intend to do, but maybe it helps to get them way more excited about voting. Maybe it’s gets those people to share the message of how super excited they are to carry on the work of our foremothers who fought for the right to vote. They might post about voting on social media, talk to friends about it, throw a registration or voting party, take their little girl children to go vote with them, whatever. Maybe these people remember the inspiring words and the encouragement they heard from Meghan and Gloria and they decide to actually wait a little longer in line at the precinct to make sure they cast their vote when they otherwise might have seen the line and decided not to wait this time. Maybe it encourages them to vote for all the down ballot races when they normally only vote for president. Maybe it encourages them to vote in off year, local elections that they might not have before. Maybe they donate to organizations that help other people get registered or get to the polls or fight gerrymandering and voter suppression.
Also, maybe the intention isn’t JUST to get people to vote. Maybe it’s to introduce Meghan fans to Gloria and the work she does, or Gloria’s fans to Meghan and her work. Maybe it’s meant to normalize public conversations around voting. To encourage and normalize women talking to each other about voting. To encourage and normalize black women and white women, younger women and older women, to talk together or work together. Maybe its meant to make talking about voting and the history of suffrage look like less of a big, brave, outspoken, feminist, liberal, partisan THING by including someone like Meghan, who needs to be more careful about not being partisan, talking about voting, thus reminding us that advocating for voting is not actually partisan.
All of this is an effect the conversation could have if it was truly only heard by people who were already planning on voting.
But do you really believe it was only watched by people who were already going to vote? I don’t. Because it’s Meghan, more people will watch this video than they would have if it was two other, less internationally famous women talking.
Audience can range from first time voters to lapsed voters.
The audience is anyone who wants to find a way to be more civic minded.
Every message, campaign, advocacy effort is not meant to resonate with your preferences.
I hope you find that possible, Taylor.
At every malicious attempt to kill her happiness and love of being home they will fail. It’s the end game. Whatever will these gossipers do when the BRF is kaput.
Small thing but why is everyone quoting her as saying “some many reasons” when she said “so many reasons”?
Love this
Could the difference between Meghan & vapid Kate be more clear?
Can anyone imagine Kate having a substantive conversation about anything?
The 2 women are not from the same planets; I don’t think we should compare them now
M by leaving will be compared to women like Michelle, Amal, Serena W, etc…. I like M a lot, she has a lot work to do; challenges are much higher now; much much much higher!
before she was compared to mediocrity so she could easily stand out, now the women she will be compared to are extraordinary…..
When they did their famous fab four panel discussion it was quite evident how different they are in terms of substance,intelligence and over all confidence. You could even see Wills embarrassment when Meghan was speaking confidently and owning the room. He always looks constipated when Kate opens her mouth in his presence. However i guess it is not faie to compare two completely different life experiences.
Noki, yes, I’ve seen it, too. Will definitely looks ‘uncomfortable’ when Kate speaks, or maybe that’s just his face?
The difference is shocking. I would feel sorry for Kate, except for the fact I don’t. Meghan is someone who had to strive for everything she has working 10 times harder. Kate literally got it all handed onto a plate. The biggest compliment Kate gets is ‘she’s so classy and elegant’. That praise is based on her standing, smiling, waving and looking nice. Kate has never had to do anything in her life other than exist.
Kate keeps running to Katie nicholl and camilla T to write about how wonderful she is, and yet these embiggening articles never mention any actual work she’s done or any of her ‘achievements’, cos there aren’t any.
The more I read those KN and CT type stories, the more it feels like Kate and Carole flailing against William. They (Kate and Carole) are trying to get Kate good press, while William and the Windsors are plotting to set her aside.
@nota you can tell when the story is from Middleton PR LTD, cos the only mention Kate, and William is an after thought. I think the Tatler article was from Kate’s own mouth, cos she even threw shade at William, harry, Meghan, and even her own sister. She wasn’t expecting them to write the article with a massive eye roll. I think kate loves the sugary pieces about her, but she has now idea how ridiculous they make her look.
@Notasugarhere, William and the Windsors plotting against Kate is something that has been sticking in my mind recently. I am a broken record on this, but I just keep coming back to those “doting single daddy” pictures this year for William’s birthday/ Fathers’ Day and for the food delivery. Then someone reminded me that just last Christmas, they released only a picture of William and the kids, again with the doting single daddy theme. The excuse is always that Kate took the pictures so she couldn’t be in them. Okay, but I am not seeing them post many photos where Kate gets that doting single mommy spotlight. Something does not seem right.
@sid yes William cut Kate out of the picture, LITERALLY! I don’t even believe she took them, she most likely wasn’t there. Are you telling me they have dozens of household staff and not one of them could have pressed click on the camera, so she could get in the pic? Nah. Symbolically her absence spoke volumes, William didn’t want her in them. Maybe he didn’t want to share attention with her, maybe her didn’t want her to get any praise, maybe it was his way of saying he doesn’t want her part of his family.
The biggest compliment Kate gets is ‘she’s so classy and elegant’.
Honestly, the first thing I think of every time I read that description of Kate is her with the hem of her skirts up around her waste in public. One time is an unfortunate mistake. Several times is a kink.
@February, exactly. It feels like there is a reason behind it. I’ve been reading your readings and putting it all together it seems to point to something.
@GuestWho, that whole time period where it seemed like she was flashing every other month or so was just odd. After the first time it happened I would have been using the hem weights or given up on those floaty skirts until I sorted it out.
Meghan looks so happy and comfortable in this video clip. Casual and relaxed and dressed in summer attire. I love it. Let the usual squawking from the peanut gallery begin.😂😂
There was an actual British tabloid defending her right to use the title, which I never expected. The constitutional expert Iain Macmarthanne that they bring out to give random facts about Archies birthrights and what-not came out and said that she wasn’t breaking any laws and that they can’t just strip her of titles even if she was, as that’s not how her titles work. He even pointed out that using royal titles wouldn’t be illegal, just breaking convention, and with them being so far down in the line of succession, they have more freedom to do that.
Now this should have gotten more notice in the British Media instead of the crap the tabloids were dishing out.
Okay, but why would they print anything sober or sane, when frothing at the mouth rage sells so much better.
It’s always nice to see her and I’ve been happy on a selfish level to see her so many times in a week long period
She looks so happy and relaxed. Every lit bit that people do, famous or not, to try and get folks out to vote counts. This moment is critical. Literally life or death. I appreciate how tough she is. Knowing what the headlines will be and doing her part as an American citizen with a platform (it should be noted that this is what she was doing pre-Harry) to try and reach as many people as possible. The petty part of me is chuckling knowing that this conversation will send the men in suits and women who thought Harry would pick them (lol) into histrionics for the next 48 hours.
And I look forward to David Simon dragging them on Twitter like he has since this past weekend!
the cartel is gonna freak. can’t wait to see the meltdown.
Right?!?! She came to play and they don’t even know the name of the game
Good for Meghan! I really hope that this helps shave a few more margins in favor of Biden and the Democrats. We need every vote we can get.
I’m sure a certain palace is currently incandescent with rage. Expect a interview soon that’s also in black and white. The only different is ghat Kant and won’t have a stick so far up that they won’t be able to appear to be relaxed, if won’t is too relaxed he’ll just put his foot in his mouth and I don’t think that kants current software comes in with human emotion capabilities, maybe carol will give her an update.
I was actually really moved when she replied “me too for so many reasons” or whatever the exact quote was. My God she had a brutal time and is so obviously relieved to be away from England/the RF. if I was them I’d be mortified.
Interesting that we can see it but the BM cannot, the more they talk about her the more her value rises. They want to trash her because it brings in the $ but they’re not breaking her down they’re building her up. It’s hilarious to witness such a self own
Expect an interview by Kate with a woman of color as the interviewee!
I am happy to see Meghan looking so relaxed and happy, good for her.
Why would any woman of substance, regardless of her color, want to interview Katherine Kant Keen?
Then again Ru Paul, in full drag, interviewing Katherine Kant Keen about Rose Bush gardening, buttons and pussy bows could be very entertaining.
Not to sound snarky…well ok it is snarky… but does Kate know any women of color? This family is so racist I can’t imagine too many diverse women want to hang with her for an interview?
This is great. When she mentioned Gloria in her previous voting video I suspected they would do something together. I think this is great and I hope to see more things like this from her going forward.
I can’t believe how well they are doing without their own social media page. I never would have imagined they could remain so visible and connect so well without having their own platform, but they are proving that they can be just as effective without their own platform. What I would like for them to create is a website when they launch Archewell. Websites were/are effective ways to reach your audience and remains just as good as other social platforms and you have more control.
My first thought when watching this video is that this feels like The Tig Meghan. She looks so at ease and like she is finally free to be herself again. I know her previous UN role was dealing with women’s civic engagement so this seems to be a subject that she really loves to dig in on and I think her being back home away from the vipers and able to do the work she loves again has been good for her. Piss Morgan can whine all he wants but she is back home doing the work she loves around people who support her and there is nothing he can do about it.
I like the fact that H&M are working with various media outlets to get the word out on their projects and not having to deal solely with “Royal Rota” type folks.
While having their own social media accounts were nice, I’m liking this new way of getting their information out. Work with an existing organization and allow that organization to post the info on its social media accounts. Brings more eyes and awareness directly to the organization. Maybe they shouldn’t have a social media account for Archwell.
I think it’s a great idea too. Keep it clean and sleek. Wipes out the whole problem of managing and moderating organised hate in one go. People are glad to work with them, and their c a use or message is amplified by the Sussexes participation. Everyones a winner. There may be some pushback against the poster, but that is clearly outweighed by the benefits.
Wow omg, this IS a big deal.Meghan right on track to surpassing Diana’s popularity! Yes she is not endorsing a candidate but she is cleverly using her platform to encourage political engagement. And as omid showed, lizzy has done so too and so haters are out of excuses to attack Meghan with.
Omg I can see her being a symbol of female empowerment in years to come. She was already committed since she sent that letter to change the advert. I hope she pushes for governments to stop taxing female hygiene products and I’d love to see a similar situation as Scotland free tampon bill. This is especially needed in schools/colleges everywhere.
No specific to Edna, but can we please stop referring to the “peanut gallery”. The racist history of the phrase makes it something we should remove from common vocab.
@Sarah. Can you please explain the racist history behind the phrase? I’m one of the clueless so I’d appreciate being enlightened. Thanks.
@Sarah and Crazy HeCallsMe – the term “peanut gallery” actually meant the cheap seats in vaudeville theaters. The cheapest snack served was peanuts and the rowdier folks in the cheap seats would heckle the performers by throwing peanuts. It was never a racist expression.
What a moment. I admire both women. I’ve been following this whole back and forth nonsense on whether Meghan is interfering in politics, how it’s not royal, she’s courting publicity, so much for privacy, etc. etc. My first thoughts is stfu to all the naysayers. For one thing, this woman’s life has been a complete roller coaster for the past 4 years. She’s had some major uprooting and reinvention. She married into the royal family, was prepared to do the work and put a lot of her former self on lock. What she went through from within the palace and front the U.K. press is truly unprecedented. Everything that could be weaponized against her was used and the goal was obviously to get her out. Read any random post on her, the racism and the vitriol is off the charts. Many wish her serious harm because she married the 6th in line to the throne. This woman has been an achiever and striver her entire life, and approaches her work with purpose and integrity. She’s not going to fade away. I don’t think she will ever publicly bring up her royal experience directly anytime soon because it’s a raw spot and is so complicated. They both have to reset their life, their life plans,while under constant scrutiny. So if she wants to be vocal about women’s rights, voting, carbon emissions or private jets whatever, she has every right to, we don’t get to decide or write the script. They trashed her name and her character, so she has earned every right to use that title and work how she sees fit to help provide for her family and for them to live on their terms. BTW, everyone should watch Mrs.America, which features Steinem’s character. So good.
I don’t know if I’m allowed to link to an article but Insider has a great piece entitled “The Palace’s treatment of Prince Andrew, Meghan Markle, and Prince Harry’s royal exits reveals a big double standard.” It really lays out the unfair treatment and shows how more press is exposing such disparity.
I read the article but like all such articles it still left something wanting. Saying their worse crime was use of private jet doesn’t really absolve them without adding, even though all other members of the family use private jets regularly. I just don’t understand why no one will not just say what needs to be said outright. Even when they speak about the double standard, they use the weakest language possible to describe the matter. The BRF must have some pull to pretty much gag the world media into soft balling every story about them.
I could be wrong but I don’t think the other members of the royal family have made reducing carbon footprints their platform, so when Meghan and Harry campaign on that and then turn around and use private jets, it seems hypocritical. I think that’s the basis of the criticism rightly or wrongly.
@Lorna both Charles and William speak on environmental issues and both have used private planes. And by your logic even the President of the United States whoever he/she is should not speak on the environment because Air Force One is the ultimate private plane.
Thanks MsIam for saying me the trouble. It’s like people are blind to everything the others do, or don’t do. They see everything H/M does and pick apart everything those two do, but the other members of the royal family can literally cut someone in public, in church while the whole world is watching with almost no mention of it by the media.
I think any article that comes out and lays bare the unfairness and disparity of how this couple, and Meghan in particular, is treated is good in my book. Could they have been more broad and specific with other family members? Sure. All the other members of the royal family should’ve been dragged as well for using private jets in this article. But I think it was just focusing more between the couple and Prince Andrew though. But I’d like to think this is a good start. I really want to see more articles delve into the nitty gritty like the Buzzfeed? article that had the double standards of how Meghan was treated doing the same things as Kate did and getting lambasted for it. Call it out for what it is.
I’m so sick of pedo prince Andrew being mentioned with the Sussexes. They did nothing to merit being compared to that slug.
I’m glad that Meghan is continually to speak out about the importance of voting and not letting those snobby racist reporters stop her. The fact some people wanted to tried dismiss Meghan as just a celebrity is ridiculously and are just looking for any reason to talk trash about Meghan you know who only know for their husband Kate is has no identity outside of being William wife and being a mother of three . What you can say about Meghan is activism she championed woman rights she speaks out about racism she has been a activism since she a 11 years old writing a letter to a soap company to change their sexist campaign . Meghan has done more to help the world they the future queen who can’t string two property sentences together. Who after a decade in the royal family her one project that her and her courtiers hype so much was nothing more than a 5 worded survey thats bomb and failed .
@lornm
Charles has and he got criticized fairly for it in February. He flew in a helicopter to go make a speech decreasing the emissions from aircraft.
His spokeswoman explained this was done for security reasons and he offsets his carbon footprint every year.
One article and it was over. Harry and Meghan do something similar sights security reasons and it is blown up. It was a total double standard! And it always will be because Harry and Meghan refuse to play the game among loads of other reasons.
Royals and celebrities are privileged and yet they use that privilege to advocate for many things. Yet Harry and Meghan do that and they are sited that they must give up everything in order to do this. You don’t hear them asking other royals to give up the nice houses, cars, semblance of privacy they maintain due to their power with the BM.
I assume Charles was traveling in an official capacity and not private trips? I’m not saying advocates give up everything for their cause but at least acknowledge it and be transparent about it e.g. ‘hey, sometimes we have to fly private for x, y, z reasons and here’s how we offset it’ – at least get in front of the message so people understand and don’t have an opportunity to get outraged about it.
Prince Charley never flies commercial for anything. The man has his shoe laces ironed .Do you really think he’s hopping on some commercial flight, waiting in the business class lounge and queuing up with the rest of us to board? Sure.
Meghan looks fabulous but I am here for the dogs!! Love how happy the dogs look and like they know they are stealing the spotlight.
So what do you think? Did she bring the dogs along for the interview with Gloria or was this on her Montecito property?
In article I read last night(Cosmo?), stated that it was her house in Montecito.
Thats a good point, the more they take what she says out if context and make assumptions and jump to conclusions they re just showing how eager they are to hate on her and how irrational they are
William has an environmental prize and he doesn’t get harassed about his carbon footprint when he takes private trips.
The point is they are doing nothing that other royals have not done who also speak about the environment. Even if they got in front of it they would t be treated the same.
They are not perfect and people can get after them about that when they get after the other royals who speak about the environment and any other issue in the same manner.
Another Example-Meghan being political and the outrage it causes versus when other royals are political.
Well I agree with you about the “political” activism nonsense both because she’s not representing the british royal family anymore and getting out the vote efforts are not political.
A couple of things from this interview: Linked not Ranked bracelets and Harry walked in the door and said to Gloria, ‘You know that I’m a feminist too, right Gloria?! It’s really important to me that you know that.’
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~lets see what the royal rats have to say about these two things.
Gotta say i was hoping she was pregnant, unthinking after this and their charity event last week that shes not yet
She is so amazing
@MEG
“Gotta say i was hoping she was pregnant, unthinking after this and their charity event last week that shes not yet”
The MAKERS article states that this was recorded last month and the baby2bay pictures(which she’s wearing loose clothes)too were done in July.
Meghan’s posture during this Q&A… if you zoom in on one picture of her lounging with one foot against the table…🤫😬 I doubt we’ll hear a confirmation this time. I’m happy she’s away from the vultures and racist UK tabloids