It feels like it happened years ago, but Prince Andrew’s catastrophic BBC Newsnight interview was only eleven months ago. Post-interview, his first instinct was to simply weather the storm. That was the Queen’s first instinct too, to circle the wagons and protect Andrew at all costs. Then Prince Charles put his foot down and told his mother that she had to fire her favorite child. So Andrew was allowed to voluntarily “step down” from royal duties. Within a month, Andrew and the Queen were already plotting his big return to public life though. If it hadn’t been for the pandemic, I’m sure Princess Beatrice’s wedding would have been his big re-introduction to royal life and royal work. He is, after all, his mummy’s favorite and that tone-deaf petty B will do anything for him. So, big surprise, it sounds like Andrew is once again trying to convince people that he should “come back.”
Prince Andrew, he of the less-than masterful judgment and not-so astute reading of the public mood, has a splendid new idea: his big comeback! According to reports in The Sunday Times, the disgraced prince who argued in his disastrous television interview that he couldn’t have been having sex with alleged Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking victim Virginia Giuffre because he was eating pizza, intends to return to public duties and “serve his country” again, and thinks he has the queen’s backing.
The Royalist humbly suggests that even in the unlikely event that the 94-year old monarch has not brutally and explicitly shut down her son’s fantasy, the real power at Buckingham Palace these days, Prince Charles, would allow the return of Prince Andrew in only one circumstance—over his dead body.
Yet The Sunday Times reports that friends of Andrew, 60, are briefing that he is determined to “support the monarchy” and resume a “public role,” via some tactical “reframing” and say that he has the support of the palace in that quest (the palace denied any such thing, just FYI.)
The unnamed friend told The Sunday Times: “The duke is spending time working out how he can serve his country and support the monarchy in the future, and what else he might want to do with his life. He’s locked down at Royal Lodge [his home on the queen’s Windsor estate], thinking about his future service and public role. He has some clear thoughts. He’s very sensitive to the public mood and acutely conscious that the public are the most important stakeholder. He feels he has support from the family, very much so, including all his siblings and his parents.”
Given that in July, Andrew wasn’t even included in his own daughter Princess Beatrice’s official wedding photographs and that this month, it was reported that the Balmoral gift shop has stopped selling postcards bearing his image, one can almost hear the hollow laughter ringing down the halls of Buckingham Palace at that last claim.
“The toxicity of his reputation is that he is indelibly associated with Epstein, and he cannot shed that reputation,” a palace source, crashing back to earth, told The Sunday Times. “The queen has a soft spot for Andrew, but the Prince of Wales and Prince William will have a bigger say and I can’t see the royal family allowing him a return to any kind of public role.
“No charity, brand or business would touch him and the military want him out. What public role can there be? He must come to terms with being a private member of the royal family, though that will crush him. His best bet would be to go and manage one of the royal estates, while quietly doing some volunteering.”
The fact that the original piece appeared in the Times says, to me, that this is coming from official channels. It also says that there are warring factions in the House of Windsor about this, and the fight is not between Andrew and the Queen. Petty Betty and the Pervert Prince are on the same side, and she wants him to “come back.” It’s Prince Charles putting up the fight and shutting it down. This is Liz and Andy’s way of “softening” the public to what they believe will be Andrew’s eventual re-emergence into public life. If Charles had his way, he would put his brother on an ice floe and set him out on the North Atlantic. Also: William, I’m sure, is incandescent with rage, but would the Petulant Prince actually scream and stomp his feet at his rapist uncle? Hm.
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The BRF are beyond tone deaf at this rate.
Even if Andy believes he deserves his place, has he considered what that means for any future patronages who will feel that they have been forced to work with a paedophile.
Their public profiles will be ruined as will their fund raising efforts.
This family is so trashy.
At this point I hope they do bring him back. He is exactly what they and the British public deserve. Let them show the world yet again how they drive out the good to support the bad. Let them use their precious tax money to pay for who they want.
This was the family who thought his disastrous BBC interview went well. Heaven knows they need good PR and handlers ASAP. They keep bumbling from one disaster to another with Andrew being the biggest disaster of all. In case one of them read this, let me spell this out. The allegations against your son, your majesty are not going away anytime soon. This is not a good look for you. I know you will try to distract by continuously throwing Meghan or Harry at the baying hordes but Andrew I’m afraid will always be persona non grata.
“ This was the family who thought his disastrous BBC interview went well. Heaven knows they need good PR and handlers ASAP.”
EXACTLY!!! His handlers were practically high-fiving themselves and were shocked, SHOCKED at the public’s response. They are so insulted in their little Tory, aristocratic world they don’t have the foggiest clue about the rest of the world outside of that system. That’s why they keep fumbling every thing. They just keep surrounding themselves with ass kissers and yes men. They need to hire people with a foot in the real world to give them a daily reality check.
But Mummy said I can come back!! Why can’t I come back!! 🙄
“He’s very sensitive to the public mood and acutely conscious that the public are the most important stakeholder.”
But, “He feels he has support from the family, very much so, including all his siblings and his parents.” So, to hell with the public? Have I got that right?
You have.
No bloody thank you.
-Signed, a UK citizen
Seconded. While trying very hard not to vomit.
Oh, how the house of cards all fall down. I’m going to enjoy watching this.
Me too! This is better than a badly written and outlandish soap opera you can’t quit.
So… let me get this straight.
“I love my wife and support her” is wrong but “I want to have sex with teenagers” is okay according to the BRF.
Do I have that right or am I missing something?
That should be printed on a t shirt
Condemning hate speech also wrong..
But posing in hotel rooms with teenage girls? A-Okay.
Every time I think I can’t hate this family more..
This is actually fun to watch. Go ahead royals! Bring back Andrew! And keep crapping on the Sussexes while you’re at it. Get your just rewards. At least, this will give those royal rota rats, who have lost the source of all of their profits, something to do. Now, what project shall they give the Duke of York first? He could become the patron of the Royal Pedophile Society, “Ye Olde Human Traffickers are Us” and the “Society for the Prevention of Discontent Among the Upper Classes” (Gotta credit Oscar Wilde for that one). I would propose these ideas directly to His Royal Highness, but alas, I fear he would think this was a great idea!
But you royal reporters keep criticizing those terrible, terrible Sussexes, and calling Harry a (race) traitor for refusing to abandon the family he created to serve the so-family he was born into!
He could take up a non-exec role (in the background) within Uge’s anti-human-slavery/ trafficking charity….
I wonder if she would let him do that–it would give her a wee bit of an image problem. But then again they’re “royal” so maybe it’s not a problem/s
LOL! They are not just royals but BLOOD royals don’t you know. I am astounded at how tone deaf this family actually is. Oi Andrew, go back to hiding under your mam’s petticoats. Your privilege is showing.
Only his mama + Fergie & the girls would want him back on stage. He’s was a bit tainted before the Epstein scandal broke. Now he has major, indelible stink that no one wants to associate with publicly.
Is he only 60? He has not aged well – bloated & jowly.
Truly. Other than Fergie, his mummy and daughters (I’m not too sure how “enthused” his sons-in-law are about him returning but they might be), I truly don’t think there’s anyone in the country that wants him back – other than maybe the extreme hardcore royalists (and even that I doubt)
I’m sorry but I will laugh my butt off if Andrew is able to just resume public life as usual and live off the taxpayers with no pushback. What great representation of the BRF!
They truly are Welfare Kings and Queens. Even trashier. Welfare Kings and Queens are just hustlers trying to dupe the system for a few dollars. These Welfare Kings and Queens take public money that could be put to use elsewhere (like your NHS) to support layabouts and pedophiles
Andrew’s lavish lifestyle hasn’t changed, he hasn’t lost his toys and comforts. Someone is paying for it, what makes people think he isn’t being funded by the taxpayers? I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s still being compensated financially through the taxpayers money. They have been busy throwing the Sussex under each and every rock to make sure the spotlight and All questions concerning Andrew stay in the dark. The lies they spin wouldn’t be called into question, royalist love eating every word and every lie.
Ugh! Just repulsive, to the Nth degree! This is the ONLY thing I agree with PWBT about: keep the Pedo OUT!
This guy is the most moronic idiot of the royal family. Does he have no advisors or friends that are able to tell him that he is completely out of touch? The only life in service to the public that he has on his horizon is from his old pal, Uncle Sam, as a guest and employee at one of the federal penitentiaries. Enough. Haul this guy in and prosecute him. Let true justice be served.
Quite frankly, at this point, I think he will come back. Yes, there will be a bit of a kerfuffle, but then it will all die down. The public will be mad for a moment and then forget. They don’t seem to have a very long memory unfortunately.
Let’s remember Caroline Flack.
I don’t know CC. Very different times we are living in where abusers are called out and some (gasp!!) are actually being held accountable. Madame G has not gone to trial yet. The disposition which was, thankfully, just released was pretty clear to me – redacted though it was. He’s up to his neck in the Epstein case. And here’s the thing, I get the funny feeling that his brother Charles wants zero to do with him. If this was 10 or 20 years ago, I would have completely agreed with you. But now, it’s different times and different players in charge (i.e Charles vs TQ). I really don’t see a return for him. Now, how he is going to continue to afford his grifting lifestyle is another question entirely. Again, Charles, if he’s smart, will block him from any role with foreign heads of state. Someone upthread mentioned the possibility of him being given some duchy or the like to manage (drain funds from). That’s his best bet now while Mummy is still alive and can action. He doesn’t have a hope when Charles comes to power.
Charles has always disliked Andrew, much to his credit.
I’m still surprised they didn’t wrangle the funding to keep that Swiss chalet. Then again, residing in a non-extradition country did seem unusually foresighted, so it was probably just a coincidence.
The Queen was clearly floating Andrew to come back when she did a church walk with him right after Sussexes’ step back statement. Remember he passed on Queen’s message to the Chinese ambassador for U.K. They have been floating idea of his return to get public feel. I can see it happening with more events like that. SMH
I am confused by QEII with regard to the level she is willing to sink to in order to protect this clown. And I don’t buy any of those “a mother’s love” or “you would support your kid too” excuses. There are plenty of examples of her putting the Crown before her family when she felt or was told there was a threat. So why in the world is she sticking her neck out to this extent to protect a whole sex offender? He is not the heir. He is not popular with the public. He is not any sort of asset. No one will care if he is ever seen again. This is the craziest sort of favoritism for someone in her position.
We’ll find out after she passes away. There is more here.
I think it’s as simple as the idea that he needs her- and that he was always her favorite.
This is legit crazy. Who is advising them because they all need to be fired.
I don’t know why they just don’t formalize Charles’ regency and be done with it. I have long believed he was the one calling the shots and hence my great dislike with how he has not shown more support for the Sussexes and has tempered his wrath regarding Androo.
I don’t think he is calling the shots–if he was, then the regency thing would be more widely discussed as a serious option.
I think he is outvoted by the Queen’s supporters, who still see him as an unpopular option with the public. She is likely refusing to step down because she doesn’t want to give Charles the throne voluntarily, even if that might be what’s best for everyone involved.
I think he is shouldering most of the work involved with the monarchy, but he’s not calling the shots. I think the Queen is still the final word on a lot of things, and that’s the problem.
Thanks for this perspective. The way it was implied that only after Charles intervened was Andrew made to step back from royal duties, gave me cause to believe Charles plays a bigger role that we are told.
This make me wonder now who are the Queen’s supporters or advisers. E.g. Who sits on the panel to interview and select her private secretary for the job, or the equerry or other staff. There must be some kind of royal Human Resourse board right.
So basically, Queen Elizabeth is another Queen Victoria, refusing to step aside or give power to their sons, because they are Petty Bettys and Vickys. And it’s too bad because it seems both Princes have a better understanding of modernizing the monarchy than either of these two Queens (understanding as much as a colonizing monarchy can, of course). Elizabeth seems to have her head stuck in the Victorian era, believing we should all turn our heads to the silly shenanigans Princes Andrew gets up to, they are above all law but God’s. So gross.
@RoyalBlue, if Charles were calling the shots, Andrew would have been out. Completely. Charles has been gunning for Andrew to go for years, but Andrew held on largely due to support from the Queen. The only reason he got kicked out now was because the situation was absolutely untenable, and I think Charles had some support from the Queen’s staffers as well, which helped her see reason. If Andrew hadn’t done that interview, he’d still be mulling about, I guarantee it.
The way it works for private secretaries is that, when the current private secretary retires, or leaves his job, his deputy (and it’s always a he) is promoted to the job. That gets rid of the necessity of conducting interviews and scouting for new people for the role. The Queen’s present private secretary is Edward Young, and he has been bad for her all around. Her previous private secretary, Christopher Geidt, was ironically enough forced out by Charles who wanted a greater role for himself, and by Andrew who didn’t like that Geidt was angling for his role to take a back seat. Both of them thought they’d get something out of promoting Edward Young, but all it’s done is result in disaster for both Charles and Andrew. Charles bc Edward Young is far more insular in terms of permitting access to the Queen it seems, and Andrew bc Chris Geidt would have never allowed that interview to happen in the first place.
I don’t think Charles is calling the shots. I think that he would have done more on Harry’s behalf if he was. But Charles has to watch his back because there are a lot of people whispering in Mumsy’s ear, including his beloved brother, the sexual offender. So Charles is looking out for himself. To be so cowardly that you won’t stand up for your own son, daughter in law and grandson is NOT a good look but that’s how it goes in that family of vultures.
I think that if once Prince Phillip is dead, Andrew WILL make a comeback. His mummy will say that she NEEDS his support and who is going to deny a 90+ year old woman who also happens to be Queen. Andrew is just preparing the public with articles like this. And I will bet folding money that there WON’T be much protest when Andrew makes his comeback. The British public didn’t mind when a pregnant woman was hounded and abused, so why should they mind a sex offender cutting a few ribbons? He wouldn’t be the first.
Andrew has a pretty narrow window in all this. Once Philip is gone, he has a chance to worm his way back in, but once the queen is gone, it’s very much shut. Charles wants NO part of Andrew.
The smart move, that’s he’ll never take because he’s too selfish and entitled, is to position the girls for royal life. If Harry and Meghan are truly gone, Charles is eventually going to need bodies. Eugenie and Beatrice are the most likely candidates to pick up the slack, but the need to be as free of the Andrew stench as possible.
@Molly: Andrew has been doing that since the girls were born. However, the York girls weren’t super popular anyways before the whole Epstein thing blew up. It’s of no fault of their own but it’s the image that they’ve got, unfortunately and I don’t see it changing massively.
Plus I don’t think Charles is too keen on the idea of the York girls. He’d rather keep the Wessexes on than have the York girls come on.
It’s so clear now that you’ve pointed it out. It would be quite the coup- and it’s worked once already when Philip retired. Still, since this piece was written so dismissively, let’s hope enough of the courtiers are against the idea that it never gains an audience.
I think it’s more the Tory politicians and Tory newspaper owners that Charles fears. And I think he is right to do so.
If Charles were regent would he not be able to rein William in and not cater to Andrew like the Queen does.
The problem is that they believe it’s blown over. It hasn’t. It hasn’t even really started. They may have redacted the names in Ghislaine’s deposition, but it was fully indexed and they didn’t redact that. So, you can’t keyword search it, but you can connect every single dot if you want to take the time. So, it’s all just starting because they aren’t 100% protecting these men anymore. This is not blowing over any time soon. It hasn’t even really started.
I can’t believe that this joker thinks he can just come back into his fancy life when he is wanted for questioning by the FBI. Can nothing pop his privilege bubble?
The Queen is destroying the monarchy. Ironic.
This is the price the BRF will pay for insisting to live so out of touch in today’s world…..
Merricat- I wish I could upvote this comment- in seven short words you captured what will likely be the judgment of history.
Given Petty Betty’s intransigence and willful blindness when it comes to her favorite son, it’s going to take some sort of humiliation of Andrew, like getting boo’ed at a public appearance or dignitaries refusing to shake his hand or acknowledge him at some event, to persuade her that he’s finished. And I’m not sure even that would do it. But it might persuade Andrew.
I do think that Andrew and his mom are hoping he can return to public duties but there is no way this is coming from pro-Andrew official channels. The fact that the timing is so bad, with the recent unsealing of Ghislaine Maxwell’s court documents, makes me think Charles leaked it to shut the MFkr down for good.
Yep. It feels like every 3-4 months, Andrew & the Queen try to float the idea that he should return with her support. Then the pro-Charles camp quash the idea. It feels like Charles is flexing more in the press lately. Andrew’s getting increasingly desperate knowing his chances at returning to public life are dwindling as Charles gets closer to the throne.
People Magazine had a article back in January or February of this year and it was about Andrew returning to some duties quietly. He actually had some involvement with China’s ambassadors visit. They mentioned that Andrew attended the special event for the ambassador. It made it sound like he was representing the crown in hosting the event. It was just like recent hosting the Cambridge’s had for a foreign host. The royals are a sneaky lot
“If Charles had his way, he would put his brother on an ice floe and set him out on the North Atlantic.”
I Say, Go Charles!
The article is very very very clear that the best he can hope for is to be a private member of the family and manage some estate, i.e. “Andy, stop bothering Mummy, stop plotting your comeback and we’ll keep you in in England, keep you in the fold and give you money”
If Andrew’s camp answers with a piece saying something like “the country wants his prince back” then Charles camp will escalate and leak something along the lines of “courtiers think prince A should collaborate with the FBI / Duke of Windsor and the reich analogy”, i.e. “stop it or we’ll drop you”.
I’m sure Charles will carry this one.
Sure, bring back HRH Prince Andrew the Duke of York, give him sovereign grant money, let him keep his military honors – while the prince who chose his family over the Firm is treated as a pariah. That will be a good look for you BRF.
I’m glad that Meghan and Archie are out of there. Let William walk beside his beloved Uncle Andy at the family functions
This is a trial balloon being floated to test the public mood. The BRF is trash with a publicity arm to promote their vile behavior as normal.
The jokes made about poor people who live in rectangular dwellings on wheels apply to this “blue blood” family as well.
On second thoughts please please please …..
– Bring back Andy and force him to work with a charity that is forced to offload him on “safeguarding” grounds (this is the danger of the game Betty and Andy are playing btw)
– Make Willy the head of the Marines
– Continue to make BLM a political issue
– Continue to encourage Kate to cosplay Meghan
– Continue to get the Beard of Wessex to push a half-baked feminist stance
Just continue with the overall shit show so that this family can finally relegate themselves to the history books, so that future gens can laugh about how the UK once subscribed to the idea that a group of in-breds were ordained by God.
Wowwwwww. I am so glad Harry and Meghan got out.
Lmao at the over Charles’s dead body remark actually in the press! It’s so obvious how much he detests Andrew.
I hope he tries to come back into public service. I really do. And I hope the public throws rotten cabbages at his head. I hope Britons show this criminal abuser what they think of him in a very very public way that cannot be misinterpreted.
If the British people don’t mind this criminal representing them, so be it. If they mind, they will make it known in some fashion same way people here who have problems with certain individuals make it known that they don’t support them. I guess we will wait and see if a) they go through with returning him to being an active royal and b) he is accepted by the public at large as an active royal. Myself personally with all I’ve seen the last few years, I couldn’t begin to call what’s going to happen since people keeping shocking the heck out of me.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they put him out there again, and the Royal reporters will fall in line and say how he put duty above self, and pretend this is normal. I bet the Sussexes were both disgusted and horrified by how they were treated in comparison to this oily frog.
We have a saying in the UK that I think is perfect for this occasion;
‘The absolute brass neck…’
What are these people thinking. This man needs to fuk off somewhere very far away from small children and vulnerable people and just play golf on his mothers purse,
Let him. Let the world see the Cambridges sit next to Andrew and make small talk with him. Let him benefit from tax payer money. Let the public read the constant hateful headlines about the Sussexes. Give them what they ask for.
Preach!
I don’t believe QE will ever relinquish her throne. She’s in it till she dies. It’s part of her “duty to my country” mindset. She’s coddled & insulated by her bf the dresser & other unctuous staff.
I’ve read that she regularly has wine with lunch, a pre-dinner cocktail, wine with dinner & either an after dinner drink or a nightcap. 4 drinks a day for decades is perhaps enough to let her float blissfully above the concerns of mere mortals to whom she believes she’s superior. Her mother lived to be 101 and was known to like her daily gins. Her sister Margaret was probably an alcoholic.
Can we please talk about how much the perv looks like Porchey? Just digging into the crown and OMG…is that why he’s the queens favorite?
There are side by side pics of Andy and Lord Porchey and the case is quite compelling.
Let him return….and watch the RF become completely obsolete…at last. They have outlasted their usefulness, which is now thankfully OBVIOUS.
If he goes back into Public life and an official role it will only last while the Queen is alive. Neither Charles or William will permit it under their rule.