Prince Charles ‘isn’t threatened’ by the renewed interest in Diana from ‘The Crown’

Charles and Diana Visit Canada

The way the Prince of Wales continues his Streisand-Effect campaign against The Crown, I have to laugh. Prince Charles has spent a good chunk of the past month organizing this bonkers hate campaign against Netflix’s The Crown. He’s gotten a lot of old-guard royal commentators involved, and somehow he roped in the British Culture Minister too. Don’t get me wrong, Charles has every right to be worried: a new generation is being introduced to his terrible treatment of Princess Diana, and for those of us who remember that era, well… we’re sitting back and sipping some tea, gleefully watching the bullsh-t unfold. Well, Charles still has royal commentators like Katie Nicoll and Sally Bedell Smith out here making some really stupid arguments. Behold!

The Prince of Wales is not threatened by renewed interest in Princess Diana but is frustrated that the past keeps being brought up when he is trying to move forward, according to a royal expert.

British author Katie Nicholl told 9Honey: ‘I’m absolutely sure he doesn’t see that sudden revived interest in her as a threat at all. I think more a frustration that the past keeps getting dredged up when he is trying to move forward.’

She added that she mostly felt sorry for the royal’s second wife, the Duchess of Cornwall, 73, after she faced a tirade of online hate after The Crown falsely suggested she had an affair with Charles throughout his marriage to Diana. The royal biographer suggested the series has ‘rekindled some of the ill feeling of the past’.

‘I think it’s not just Charles’s image that’s gone through a sort of 360 [since the 1980s], it’s Camilla’s too. Her reinvention has been a remarkable one and one that’s taken a lot of work on her part, on the part of her courtiers and I actually feel quite sorry for the Duchess of Cornwall.’

Author Sally Bedell Smith, who has written biographies of the Queen, Charles and Diana, said: ‘I am very sad to say that I have heard it over, over and over again that people take The Crown at face value and they believe everything they see in the series, and that includes Charles and Camilla. The notion in the programme that he entered into his marriage cynically with a view to continuing with Camilla and putting his new wife on the side is exceedingly dishonest and damaging. It is just simply not true.’

Meanwhile, Ms Nicholl claimed there is also frustration among royal aides that the new series of The Crown was released as the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall were in Germany on an official visit, which was overshadowed by the drama.

[From The Daily Mail]

The sticking point, in Nicholl’s mind and Bedell Smith’s mind, is that The Crown shows Charles and Camilla carrying on their affair throughout his marriage to Diana. Team Charles argues that Charles and Camilla didn’t rekindle their physical affair until 1986, five years into his marriage. As I keep saying though: Charles and Camilla were still carrying on throughout Charles and Diana’s courtship. Even if you believe Charles and Camilla hit pause on their physical affair for a few years, the truth is that they were still having an emotional affair and they still communicated constantly. That’s how Diana knew that her marriage was garbage from the word go. Besides, even in Team Charles’ version of events, he was STILL banging Camilla just five years into his marriage, when he had two young kids and a young wife at home.

Also – Nicholl saying “there is also frustration among royal aides that the new series of The Crown was released as the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall were in Germany,” that’s how you know Katie Nicholl got the Clarence House talking points. Obvious Charles is Obvious. He’s ALWAYS claiming that so-and-so “overshadowed” him. Whenever Meghan and Harry breathed, he would leak something about his sadness that they “overshadowed” him. Now a show on Netflix overshadowed him!! LMAO.

Prince Charles And Camilla visit Berlin To Attend National Mourning Day Events

TheCrown_403_Unit_00541

Photos courtesy of Backgrid, Avalon Red and Netflix.

Related stories

You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

132 Responses to “Prince Charles ‘isn’t threatened’ by the renewed interest in Diana from ‘The Crown’”

Comments are Closed

We close comments on older posts to fight comment spam.

  1. Sofia says:

    If he wasn’t worried, him and his friends wouldn’t have spent a month complaining. Plus Charles and Camilla need to realise that Diana will be brought up for the rest of their lives and beyond. That’s just how it is and how it’s going to remain

    • Kalana says:

      And knowing that the show would eventually focus on his marriage, how is Charles’ response so weak? What did he think would happen? He seems to believe his lies that *everything* was Diana’s fault and is shocked people outside of his sycophantic biographers and circle don’t agree.

      • Snuffles says:

        In the show Philip was giving Diana a lecture basically saying that no one matters except the Queen and she needs to remember that. I bet Charles and William have been fed that line 24/7 since birth as the heirs and it has totally fucked them up and created a lack of empathy in them. They can’t see it.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      The problem with Prince Charles is that he never quite captured the hearts and mind of the people of the UK right from when he was a youngster. He was seen as stuffy and grand and the press did not help matters. His treatment of Diana, affair with CPB and many leaks from his camp to the press just made things worse. He will never escape the stain of Diana’s memory. Her death elevated her to saint status, which is now engraved into the collective consciousness of almost every generation.

  2. Snuffles says:

    Everything and everyone in life apparently overshadows you, Charles. If you can’t hold people’s attention, that’s on you and not other people.

    • Seraphina says:

      @Snuffles, correct, at some point one must come to terms that he is the common denominator in all of this. Cams at times over shadows him but I think she knows how to blend into the background??? Help me out readers who know that dynamic better than I do.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        You’re right about Cam. She knows how to survive in this dynamic.
        Charles was raised as heirs get raised. They are the the most important by right of birth and everyone just has to understand that. It’s not their fault. It’s everyone else’s.

      • Becks1 says:

        Camilla definitely knows how to share the spotlight with Charles. When they are at joint events, Charles is in most of the released photos, and the ones with just Camilla aren’t usually anything special.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Does the BRF expect the the schedule of the world to revolve around their schedule?

        Charles does over two hundred engagements a year. Therefore, it makes no difference when Netflix released “The Crown” because Charles would have been doing something he considered important on any day Netflix dropped “The Crown”. Do the BRF and their courtiers not see the “smack you in the face” stupidity of their arguments?

      • Seraphina says:

        Thank you. I had a feeling, from everything I have seen, that she knows how to not over step. And maybe it’s really her personality or lack there of.

      • Tessa says:

        Camilla does seek out cameras and grins. She likes attention. I don’t think Diana did anything wrong. Charles was just petty and jealous and should have appreciated her. Camilla can overstep as much as she likes, since Charles created the Great Love Story spin plus he cant risk another divorce. She also does the minimum but even then surpasses Kate.

      • Becks1 says:

        I don’t think grinning at the camera is the same as stepping over Charles. Her behavior when she is at an event without him is different than when she is with him – OR (equally likely), the pictures Clarence House releases are very different.

      • Tessa says:

        later in the marriage there was a PR war between Charles and Diana. Early on,Diana did not try to “step over him.” Since because she was IMO a rather insecure woman barely out of her teens when she went with him on their first walkbouts and tours I do see William as stepping over Charles now, Charles seems to let him do as he pleases and make decisions and Charles does not do anything to stop it apparently. He does not make the “snide” comments about William that he did years ago with Diana.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Tessa – my opinion (with nothing to back it up really besides various gossip) is that there is a reason Charles lets William do as he pleases. I don’t think its guilt over Diana, because Charles really doesn’t seem to feel any guilt over that – but I wonder if William’s temper really is THAT bad that Charles doesn’t want to trigger it, or if William has threatened to walk away from his place in the line of succession*, or something. I think both Finding Freedom and Battle of the Brothers confirmed that William was the one who was so ticked at the Sandringham Summit – refused to even come for lunch – and I think BotB confirmed that he was the one who nixed the idea of being half in, half out.

        He seems to have a lot of power in the family considering he’s second in line, I wonder if Charles and the queen think he’s a lot more popular than he actually is?

        *he would never walk away IMO, he wants the power and money too much, but I can see him threatening it.

      • Kalana says:

        What is most important to Charles is his position and public perception.

        Privately, similar to Andrew, William has managed to ally himself with the Queen who herself has always been unhelpful towards Charles because she lives being the monarch and is dysfunctional towards Charles because he’s her heir.

        Publicly, William can use the memory of Diana against Charles. Charles also doesn’t want the bad press of not being a good father. Charles can’t use Harry to prop up his image because Harry was the scapegoat and a generally loyal person no matter how he was treated by William.

  3. Eleonor says:

    I talked about this with my mum, and the Dianalooney of the family said : With all he as done to Diana he should just STFU.
    My mum would be a better pr advisor.
    (my mum lives happily without internet)

  4. Sarah says:

    Err… Actions speak louder than words?

    And yes to everything about their affair, even if they stopped getting physical for a bit they were absolutely together and involved far beyond what any married man (or woman) could call acceptable in what is supposed to be a monogamous relationship.

    • Snuffles says:

      Charles is using the Clinton defense. In his mind it isn’t cheating unless the penis goes in.

      • Talia says:

        The Royals don’t admit to emotions so think an emotional affair doesn’t count. I’m not sure the Crown actually establishes he and Camilla were having sex throughout – it just shows that he spoke to her constantly and put her above Diana at every opportunity. The fact he apparently genuinely can’t see that in itself was incredibly problematic says everything we need to know about how Diana was treated.

        I’m not saying they weren’t having a full blown affair, just that what they admit they were doing was bad enough in itself.

      • Seraphina says:

        @snuffles, if we are going based on Clinton defense, we also need specify where the penis goes into to define sex.

    • Sunnee says:

      “The notion in the programme that he entered into his marriage cynically with a view to continuing with Camilla and putting his new wife on the side is exceedingly dishonest and damaging. It is just simply not true.’” How would she know whether or not it’s true. She’s not in his head. By Diana’s own words he gave his mistress a bracelet, kept calling her at important times, foisted Camilla on Diana etc. Seems like he married her and still kept an emotional attachment to C. If it walks like a duck etc, it’s a duck.
      This members of family are so mediocre; even with their history, titles, wealth, royal handlers and access to the best education they are so blah. Is it any wonder that Diana and Meghan can run circles around them? They think their bloodline is all they need. My god, they’re so clueless. I can’t stop thinking that Jackie Kennedy’s assessment of them in Season two is spot on, “they are unremarkable”.
      Charles was an a-hole to his very young wife. Nineteen, my daughter is 19 and I just can’t imagine her going through that. I am in awe of Diana. Is it any wonder she had bulimia etc., 19 and no one is in your corner. SMH

      • Ann says:

        I was in England in the summer of 1985, when I was 19, and I remember being amazed at how young she was. Married at that same age and with two young kids (at least it was two then?). It was hard for me to get my head around it.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Oh PLEASE, it’s on record he told Diana that he would NOT be the “first POW to not have a mistress”. He NEVER had any intention of being faithful to his marriage in any way, shape, or form. Diana was just there for the heir and the spare, and to fill the chair.

    • Va Va Kaboom says:

      Camilla organized a lunch with Diana, with Charles’s knowledge and blessing, at a restaurant called Ménage à trois for literal f*cks sake! There is quite simply no argument that he ever really intended to be true to his vows.

      • Georgie says:

        No. This is exactly what they mean. People see this on the Crown and take it for a fact. This was debunked. They did meet in a restaurant but it was not called Ménage a Trois. And Camilla and Diane actually got along well for a while.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Georgie – do you have a source for that, because that is something that the Crown specifically defended as being true.

      • Va Va Kaboom says:

        If it isn’t too much trouble could you please link to where that’s debunked? I’m fairly sure the name of the restaurant came from Princess Diana herself on the Morton Tapes. Of course that doesn’t “prove” anything, but I also searched and read several articles on the scene/rumor and none of them mention the name being wrong.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Georgie, please explain, with examples, why you believe Camilla and Diana got along well for a while.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Also, let’s not forget, Cam was not the ONLY ONE he was cheating with. There were two others as well. Poor Diana didn’t stand a chance with his cheating ass.

      • Tessa says:

        Janet Jenkins would pay visits to Charles from time to time so he could “cheat” on Camilla. There was also Lady Tryon who was besotted with Charles.

    • Size Does Matter says:

      I wonder if the sex had to stop while he was in the business of making valid heirs with his valid wife, so there wouldn’t be any possibility of a conflicting claim from an illegitimate child. But he fully intended that it would carry on as soon as the spare was born.

  5. equality says:

    How sorry did this reporter feel about Meghan receiving on-line hatred because of the media? It amuses me how things “overshadow” the royals’ efforts constantly. Do they think that everything in the world stops and there will be NO other news at any given time because a royal is doing something? Most people can follow more than one thing at a time.

    • Rebecca says:

      She gleefully participated in the hate campaign against Meghan.

    • MF1 says:

      Yeah, apparently she does think that. I think Charles does too. The RF really does think they’re that important. *eyeroll*

      • ArtHistorian says:

        This over-weening sense of entitlement is what happens when a person is raised believing that they are more important than other people because of who they are born to and the birth order. Add to that the bubble of intense royal privilege. This is why the Windsors repeatedly show that they don’t understand that the rest of the world doesn’t revolve around them (hell, the nation doesn’t revolve around them) and that public interest doesn’t follow royal rank. And that is why they saw Diana’s popularity as a threat and later Meghan and Harry’s popularity as a threat as well. They are so dysfunctional as a family that they crave public interest and they (Charles and William) cannot cope when lower ranking members are more popular than they.

      • Nic919 says:

        That one engagement when will and Kate were christening a boat and some of the crowd below cheered for Meghan but have really burned him. Kate sort of smiled it off but there’s no way he was fine with that.

    • NewKay says:

      Don’t call Katie Nichols a reporter. She’s someone who had a Dad who was a royal commentator and a mom who worked for an American news network (based in London) as her dad for older and retired- she was pushed forward to take this place. Complete nepotism. Nothing more. She was also a former 3AM girl (gossip columnist).

    • Mustlovedogs says:

      “I think it’s not just Charles’s image that’s gone through a sort of 360 [since the 1980s]…”
      Ummmm. Isn’t a 360 turning in a circle and continuing down exactly the same path/direction…?!

      • North of Boston says:

        Hah!

        Which in the case is kind of exactly what happened: Charles’ image got sunk after the debacle of his behavior toward Diana and his marriage, then improved somewhat as time has gone on and he’s had PR to reform/remake his public image, and now his public image has sank again as people have been reminded again what a jerk he is … not just The Crown depiction itself, but also Charles and his camp’s response to it, as well as the response to what went on with the Sussexes.

  6. hindulovegod says:

    The show whitewashes and underplays reality. If he wants a disclaimer, it should list all the affairs he had and how little time he spent with his children in their formative years. It should explain Tampongate in gruesome detail. The truth is much worse than The Crown.

    • Ginger says:

      I agree. I think they went easy on Charles. It could have been MUCH worse.

    • Redgrl says:

      @hindulovegod – this!

    • Snuffles says:

      You are correct! They totally went easy on him. I hope Netflix is pissed and doubles down on Season 5. They are already snarkily snapping back with receipts and encouraging viewers to watch Diana In Her Own words on Netflix (which they apparently just extended its streaming availability).

      The shows producers and researchers are doing Q and A on social media and providing receipts as well.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Snuffles – Would you please post the link? I thank you in advance for helping my lazy carcass.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        I watched “Diana: In Her Own Words” at the same time I was watching “The Crown”. I couldn’t get through it w/out tears. My heart just broke for her as a young girl, cheered her on as she found herself, and cried again at the “Paris” part/funeral. Can’t believe it still gets to me like this after all this time, but it does.

        That family is lucky W & H are still talking to them. How much they must’ve buried/sublimated to go on, as they grew up learning more and more about their family’s treatment of their mother.

  7. Amy Bee says:

    If he wasn’t threatened by the renewed interest in Diana, he would have kept quiet about the Crown. His complaining and explaining has put a bigger spotlight on the show and encouraged a lot of people to watch it and do their own research about Diana and their marriage. Furthermore, the claim that he stopped the affair before the wedding is not important. The point is he used and abused Diana throughout their marriage and after their divorce and Camilla was a willing participant.

  8. Kalana says:

    I thought The Crown was a leftist threat to the monarchy and that’s why Charles is upset? Just to add to the Streisand effect, there’s a response in the The Economist to that.

    Netflix isn’t playing.

    Anyway, the company making the show is British. It’s really creepy that the monarchy and the government is pressuring citizens for not propping up the monarchy. It reminds me of David Cameron attacking Hilary Mantel. I wonder if that guy pushing for a republic cares at all? I doubt it.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Well said Kalana. It is creepy how the culture minister got involved. They demand greater accountability from Netflix over a drama series then political manifestos& the press!

      Even if we believe Charles account of when him & Camilla got physical again, his own Dimbleby biography said he never loved Diana & was forced into marriage so the hesitancy over his first marriage shown in the Crown seems to reflect his own past reflections.

      It’s interesting to see royalists try to rewrite history like this. Imagine if we didn’t have Charles Tv affair confession what they would get away with.

      Also interesting that suddenly a royal social media account is respecting its community guidelines& restricting comments for Camilla. Never have that energy for the sexist, racist filth said about Meghan or even Archie. The double standards are glaring

      • Tessa says:

        Morton never referred to Camilla as the Mistress, just a friend. Still Charles’ friends indignantly denied they had an affair even though Morton did not spell it out. Whn Charles blabbed, all bets were off.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Yeah…I don’t know how many men want to be a tampon for *just* a “friend”. Or take a “friend”‘s picture on their honeymoon.

      • Dollycoa says:

        We are 9 months into a pandemic which has decimated the cultural sector in this country. Local theatres have closed, in some cases for good, tearing the cultural heart out of the towns and cities they were in. Oliver Dowden, Culture Secretary, not a peep out of him. Prince Charles gets his knickers in a twist and he falls over himself to do his bidding! It’s a disgrace.

    • Becks1 says:

      Completely agree with your last paragraph. Remember we had a similar story a week or so ago – about how anti-monarchy this show was because- gasp – it dared to walk back some of Charles’s carefully orchestrated PR over the past 20 years. Showing the royals as they are – flaws and all – should not be considered anti-monarchical, but even if it is, so what? The push to protect the monarchy, coming from the government, is really kind of creepy. It goes to what we were saying yesterday about a referendum for a republic – its never going to happen in the near future.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        IMPO, The only people who come out of the crown with a higher public opinion than they had going in are Anne, The Princess Royal and Princess Margaret.

      • Agree Becks1 and Kaiser….. Me Thinks He Doth Protest Too Much. Also, by his own words, actions, and staff and others on the record comments, Charles and Camilla never stopped their intense relationship. Maybe he stopped F***ing Camilla for several years (which I HIGHLY doubt), but they were intensely, emotionally involved with all their phone calls, hunt parties, and country weekends at friends homes. Obviously, the last month of intense anti-The Crown PR is not working for him, so to fight the backlash, his PR team is trying to change the optics to, “no bother here.”

    • Nic919 says:

      When the UK culture minister is trying to interfere with a Netflix drama, it is far closer to a dictatorship than anything else. It is only a few degrees away from the Thai law that punishes any insults about the king.

      This is the problem with placing a group of individuals on a pedestal. In countries where the head of state is not a family dynasty, they don’t have time to set up a media system that blindly praises them. There are generations of media establishment set up here to defend and protect Charles without him lifting a finger.

  9. Miranda says:

    Remember when he stepped up for Meghan and walked her down the aisle after her own dumpster fire dad let her down? That was lovely. What happened to THAT Prince Charles? Is he, like, panicking because he thinks he might die before his mother?

    • Amy Bee says:

      That wasn’t about Meghan, that was about Charles bolstering his public image. He used the situation to get good publicity. That’s as far as the support for Meghan went.

      • Miranda says:

        *sad nod*

        I think deep down, I knew that, and I have to wonder if Meghan did, too. She’s obviously smart, and doesn’t seem like she’d be duped into being just a prop. I hope she was “in” on the whole thing, because it’s too sad to think of her genuinely believing that she had that support, only to be let down by ANOTHER father figure.

      • molly says:

        Emily Andrews* said on the Heir Pod that when Charles, Prince of Wales offers to walk you down the aisle, it’s not something you turn down.

        *Yes, I know. But I believe she knows enough to make a fair read on Charles about something like this.

    • Lizzie says:

      While it was nice to see Charles be charming and generous the core of the family is selfish and self pitying. I assume he will one day be head of the Church of England, he could just make a statement that says something nice about Diana but a divorce was the right path for both of them. Someone needs to clean house of the courtiers.

    • Harper says:

      There was probably some emphasis on chivalry in Charles’ early training that stuck (and something that Willileaks blew off, to Kate’s dismay). I don’t think Charles’ current whining takes away from his wedding day behavior for Meghan and Doria, because those gestures also aided in making Meghan and Doria feel comfortable, which is the point of having manners in the first place. However, it’s about time for someone with sense (Camilla?) to tell him to shut his pie hole and concentrate on doing some other public goodwill gesture to raise his image post-Crown. Maybe a press release on what he’s sending baby Archie for Xmas?

  10. Chrissy (The Original) says:

    It’s telling that the reporter thinks that Charles and Camilla’s reputations have take a “360″ since the Nineties. She just stated that despite the PR push, they are still rightly seen as the cheating deceitful abusers that they were in the Eighties. So true! Karma is sweet.

    • Hannah says:

      Oh Chrissy, I too laughed at that “360″ quote – as you so rightly say, they’ve come full circle back to the “cheating deceitful abusers…” It should have read 180 degrees, but 360 is perfectly correct. Well spotted ;)

    • I caught that 360 line too and found it hysterical. These reporters are their own worst nemesis sometimes.

  11. HK9 says:

    Ok, so even if I believe he’s not threatened by the renewed interest in Diana, (which I don’t) he just won’t keep quiet about it, which leads me to believe he’s got issues. We have interviews, books articles that document all this shit, so the best thing he could do is just keep quiet and keep it moving. But no-petty to the end.

  12. Becks1 says:

    That damn Netflix, not checking with Clarence House and Charles’s schedule before releasing one of their biggest programs of the year. How dare they!!!! It must be Harry and Meghan’s fault.

    The CH line of defense that “he didn’t have an affair” for his whole marriage is so weak that they need to stop with it. Even if he wasn’t sleeping with Camilla (and maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t, the only people who would actually know are Charles and Camilla), he still gave her a bracelet at the time of his wedding, he still wore cufflinks she gave him on his honeymoon, they were still in frequent contact – you don’t have to be having sex to damage another relationship.

    and finally – I’ve said this before – but saying you didn’t start cheating until your youngest son was 2 is NOT a good look!!!!

    • JT says:

      Thank you becks1! Why do they they think this makes Charles look innocent? You were having sleeping with another woman when Harry was two isn’t a defense! It’s indefensible and pretty much proves he was having an affair, not to mention his own admission that he was cheating on Diana. Who thinks this makes him look good? Their PR approach is genuinely baffling. All those British pounds wasted on the most ludicrous PR campaign ever waged. This is silly. This is trump level ridiculous.

      • 809Matriarch says:

        I re-watched Diana In Her Own Words and was struck by the arrogance and immoral tone of the question Camilla asked Diana. She says, “You have everything you ever wanted. All the men fall in love you with and you have two beautiful children…”

        Excuse me? All the men fall in love with you? That’s okay I suppose if you are single or a high paid call girl who needs to keep track of such things. Diana was a MARRIED WOMAN and the mother of two young boys. She loved her husband and her children and wanted a happy STABLE family. As a matter of fact Camilla had children as well.

        Diana was so young and sweet and way too polite. Telling that woman, “I’m sorry I’m in the way…” She should have at least pulled Camilla’s hair!

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Also kind of belies him saying he didn’t “cheat” until FIVE YEARS after the marriage (1981). Di had William one yr. after the marriage (1982), Harry 3 yrs. after the wedding (1984).

        Pull the other one, Chuckie.

    • Belli says:

      The insistence on the 1986 date is key I think because that’s when Diana’s affair with James Hewitt started.

      So if Charles admits to having an affair with Camilla from 1986, well Diana was being unfaithful too so it wasn’t as bad and maybe her fault anyway!

      But if it was going on before 1986, the breakdown of the marriage is squarely on Charles’ shoulders.

      • Amy Bee says:

        Diana says the marriage was effectively over after Harry was born. He was born in 1984.

      • Ann says:

        Yes, exactly. In my mind, Charles and Camilla had wronged Diana all those years ago. But ok, he was definitely pushed into the marriage and supposedly they mended fences after the divorce, so if he and his then-mistress are now married and happy and doing some good things, then fine. No one is perfect. Diana wasn’t. I didn’t think he was a great guy or anything but I was OK enough with him. Now he’s just being a manipulative whiner who can’t own up to his mistakes.

      • Tessa says:

        Diana moved on after Charles did I would say he was always cheating and Camilla was always a presence. Witnesses saw them at the fox hunts together and disappearing together, pre the 1986 date that Charles mentioned. Another source believes Charles and Camilla renewed their intimacy after the 1983 Tour of Australia and before the Canadian tour. There was more tension in the Canadian tour with Charles making a very public snide comment about needing two wives and Diana visibly cringing. Charles knew the score and I will never believed he was forced into the marriage. It was for expediency’s sake so he could produce heirs and he thought Diana would make nice with Camilla and be civilized. Charles is self centered and did not think that Diana would not like the arrangement.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        The marriage was over before it began. But the intimacy ended between Charles and Diana after she produced the obligatory spare, Harry.

        Duty done. Relationship done.

    • Tessa says:

      Bedell Smith is pro Charles but could not quite totally whitewash C and C’s affair. She wrote Camilla while pregnant with Laura Parker Bowles called up Charles for ‘comfort’ over her being so unhappy.

  13. Liz version 700 says:

    Does anyone like this man enough to advise him to shut up? No? Didn’t think so. Have some more whine with your petulance sir.

    • My3cents says:

      I guess he’s the only one in the royal family that didn’t get the “never complain, never explain” memo.

    • 809Matriarch says:

      From his history, he doesn’t listen to anybody. If he had, he wouldn’t be in this pickle now.

    • Dollycoa says:

      Hes dug up his chief apologist hags Penny Junor and Ingrid Seward to do his bidding after they did such a brilliant job gaslighting a dead woman with 2 teenage surviving children. I cant believe these two love the Royals so much that they are still whining on about Diana being mad and unstable. She sounded completely sane in that documentary. Royal reporters as a rule really must have their dignity and self worth removed at the same time as they are given that job. The job no one wants!

  14. Margaret says:

    “there is also frustration among royal aides that the new series of The Crown was released as the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall were in Germany,”
    LMAO I can’t
    Now for me they’re the Dumb Royal Family

  15. GuestWho says:

    It is striking that those in power are insisting on a higher level of accuracy from a televised drama than they do for their “newspapers.”

    This man gave an interview and stated that he never loved his wife – who he married when she was barely out of her teens, while he was in his 30s and carrying on an “emotional” affair (they were banging the whole time) with a woman he let gaslight his young, vulnerable bride. None of this is not gross. He should be eternally grateful that they left his other mistresses out of the story. I cannot begin to imagine how f’ing exhausting these people must be to deal with.

    On another note: does anyone know what happened to Prof Kate Williams twitter account? It appears to be just gone. Odd.

  16. Keekey says:

    This story reminded me of the scene from The Crown where Charles yells at Diana for hugging a child with AIDS because Camilla will feel bad about how popular Diana is getting. *wah wah* Poor Camilla!! Charles looked beyond ridiculous in that scene and this latest story just demonstrates that The Crown got it pretty spot on.

  17. Hannah says:

    Rumour has it that that cheating pos Dominic West is being cast as PC in S5. Subtle shade or clever casting?

    https://tvline.com/2020/10/19/the-crown-prince-charles-cast-dominic-west-season-5/

    • Sofia says:

      I honest to god hope this isn’t true.

      • Ann says:

        It looks like it is happening, though nothing is set in stone yet. He’s a good actor but I think it’s an odd choice. Josh O’Connor looks so much like Charles and West doesn’t look like him at all.

  18. Wadsworth the Butler says:

    “They broke their marriage vows, and while they love each other deeply, they’ll always deeply regret the pain they caused to their families.” How hard is that to say, decades later? Even if it isn’t true, it’s basic PR. They’ve never accepted the fact that the public does not view them as victims. Perhaps the public would have had an easier time “forgiving” them if they had ever appeared remotely contrite about the pain they inflicted on others.

    • Tessa says:

      Charles and Camilla never accepted blame. Illustrated by their thinking it OK for them to go to the Memorial Service of 2007 for Diana. Charles supposedly went to support William and Harry but Camilla was also set to go and had to back out at the last minute until possibly the Queen finally intervened and also public opinion was very negative about her attending. She would have hijacked the memorial by showing up. Also in 2017 she gave an interview playing victim and her friend Penny Junor wrote this absurdly sycophantic story of Camilla with Camilla’s cooperation of course. And this included Diana bashing. It shows they are not the least bit sorry and blame Diana.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Well…according to C&C, Diana IS to blame…for not “going along” with everything they wanted, mouth shut, staying in the background, only coming out ceremonially, the going back into the palace “closet” until needed again.

  19. 809Matriarch says:

    It seems like the monarchy under the long long long long reign of Elizabeth II has turned more into a religion where she is the embodiment of the Spirit of Britannia. I listened to that speech in the Crown where Philip was talking about how they all revolve around the Queen and she is the essence of blah blah blah.

    There’s never this sort of ideation about Kings – probably because most don’t have such long reigns. In much of the invective against Meghan there was this constant accusation of “she disrespected the Queen” it was like they wanted to drag her to the city square and stone her or something.

    IMO Elizabeth held on to power far too long. The ridiculous adulation given to her as the grandmother of the nation and her near idol status will leave an impossible shadow for Charles and William. Hopefully that will be the end of the destructive institution.

    • Ann says:

      I agree.

    • Sid says:

      Yup. Ironically, her longevity on the throne might just be what leads to the whole thing eventually coming down.

    • Gina says:

      Me watching the documentary “Diana in her own words” had interesting effect on me. I suddenly realized that I can’t stand the Queen. She is a monster. She is not human. Maybe she was human in her twenties but that time is long gone. Her attitude to Diana was despicable. The situation with Charles and Camilla was pretty clear and we all know it. But the Queen, older woman with authority? So cold, so indifferent, so hostile… If the Queen is Britain’s Granma it’s not surprising that the country has such powerful and dirty yellow press.

  20. MaryContrary says:

    What happened to “never explain, never complain”?

  21. SNOWWHITE64 says:

    The Crown Season 4 premiere date was announced 3 months before the Germany trip was finalized… just saying!

    • MsIam says:

      They probably wanted to be out of the UK then anyway and are now whining about being “overshadowed “ lol.

  22. Amelie says:

    Even if they weren’t physical in the beginning of Charles and Diana’s marriage, Charles and Camilla absolutely were constantly talking and meeting up in general. Didn’t Camilla gift Charles cufflinks which he wore during his honeymoon to Diana? In what world would any wife be okay with her husband wearing a gift worn by their ex-girlfriend like that? (Unless she had died! Which I then could understand) It doesn’t matter if Charles and Camilla stopped sleeping together before Charles and Diana got married or if they were physical throughout Charles and Diana’s marriage. I don’t know why they’re nitpicking this, as if they get brownie points for “avoiding” the temptations of the flesh. What a stupid hill to die on.

    In slightly off topic stuff, I started watching The Windsors a few days ago, a satirical show very loosely inspired by the BRF. I realized the actor playing Charles had ridiculous red makeup on his cheeks and nose all of a sudden and was like why are they doing that, what’s it supposed to be? Then realized they were heavily caricaturing Charles’s rather pronounced rosacea on his cheeks and nose (which he’s had for decades at this point). I realized it in the pictures of him on this post!

    • Tessa says:

      Stephen Barry, Charles valet at the time of Charles marriage to Diana wrote how Charles would sneak phone calls to Camilla during his honeymoon with Diana.

      • 809Matriarch says:

        That is an absolute disgrace! He didn’t even try to be discreet! I’m still mad that Camilla left that “let’s lunch” letter on her BED! How dare she even be in there!

    • RoyalBlue says:

      i started watching that last night. hilarious. Of course they portray Harry as dim.
      Laugh’s on them now. But William as the air pilot is clearly satire. My favorite characters so far are Camilla and Charles.

      • Amelie says:

        My fave is the actress who plays Pippa. Also I don’t know if the actress who plays Fergie is over exaggerating how deep her voice is but every time she addresses Eugenie and Beatrice in that odd deep kind of raspy “Hello girls!” I laugh my head off every time. Also have you noticed how William over pronounces words as he talks? Is that supposed to be a caricature of a posh British accent? Because I giggle a lot with the ridiculous pronunciations.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        @Amelie yes to everything. hahaha. fergie with the deep voice and even the girls saying oh mummy crack me up. it’s wills and the york girls who have the exaggerated posh accents lol. i actually think the actor has got charles’ accent just right, and Ann and Andy are over the top hilarious. this is just like the medieval puppet shows that used to mock the royals.

  23. Mel says:

    Diana is dead and gone. Let it go ppl, let it go.

  24. Flying Fish says:

    So, why are his minions clucking about it, including Nicolls and Smith?

  25. Qtpi says:

    Gosh Charles. Diana is 6 ft under for 23 years and one son has fled the country with his family for good most likely. Bravo Chuck.

    Imagine if he had simply embraced Diana and acted like he was in love and happy to be with her. He would have been way more loved then he is today. Let this royal line die with Elizabeth. So dated.

  26. Pétulia says:

    Their incapacity to evolve to the real world will be their downfall. I think when Charles is king he should delay making prince William the prince of wales as much as possible.

  27. LRobb says:

    Charles and the palace are so embarrassing. No defence; no declaration of Charles’s being “above” it all will work. Diana was real. She was, without saying a word, iconic. She, at 19 -25 yrs old, needed him. He was incapable of supporting her. The Crown didn’t make that up. No need. “So, Charles, just be quiet about the TV show. The reality was worse and you know it. Don’t whine about wanting to move on. You did already. She died.”

  28. February-Pisces says:

    “Charles isn’t threatened by The Crown” that’s why he’s had every RR out trashing it for the past month. He is such an insecure baby. But what I find interesting is that Charles too seems to have a lot of influence on the British media as well if they are all out doing his dirty work. I just saw the headline in the DM once again trashing The Crown, saying that “Netflix are trolls” lol. It’s funny that he never seemed to use that influence to help his own son and grandchild from being bullied and abused for the past 4 years. He was a sh*t husband and a sh*t father. Diana tried to warn us about these people.

    Also I think this smear campaign to go after Netflix is probably their way to get them to drop harry and meghans £150 million deal. Not going to happen, because the more the RF shout about Netflix, the richer Netflix gets. They actually think Netflix are shaking in their boots, Lol. Nah, they are getting so much free promotion out of this.

    • Scorpion says:

      I said the same thing previously. He’s a ghastly man, in fact the whole family is rotten. He thinks people have forgotten all the shit they pulled. Netflix should send him champagne for the free promo, he is giving the Crown.

    • Kim says:

      Exactly that’s my thought . That narcissistic family is hell bent on damaging Harry & Megan’s Netflix deal . There are hundreds of hours of Diana content but this one is too much ? Their tactics are outdated and they think that either the public will turn on the Sussexes or Netflix will . The idiotic Windsors are just confirming what we thought .

    • February-Pisces says:

      Harry and meghans landmark Netflix deal well and truly disrupted the narrative that they are ‘broke losers’ who will come running back the the uk as failures. Even without that deal, harry and Meghan will still thrive.

      What’s mad is that they seem to think people will turn on Netflix just because of Prince Charles. Anyway most of Charles fanbase are baby boomers who only watch ITV, they don’t even know what Netflix is, so it’s hardly much of a threat. I think season 4 was still soft of Charles, I really hope Peter Morgan goes hard on him for season 5 as payback.

  29. lucylee says:

    BS!!!! If he is saying he is not worried that’s a sign that he is scared and the PR tactics of yesteryear won’t work this time.

  30. Kim says:

    Lol everything anyone does “overshadows Charles’ work” . Whenever Harry or Megan breathes they overshadow him . Diana’s presence used to overshadow him .The courtiers should work on new talking points .

  31. Justwastingtime says:

    Ok Charlie, whatever you say.