Hilaria Baldwin knew about Spanish brand Zara ‘before I was in this country’ (lmao)

Alec and Hilaria Baldwin attend the East Hampton Library's Authors Night in Amagansett

Honestly, the Hilaria Baldwin/Hillary Thomas story is the perfect post-Christmas story. Hillary has been in the public eye for the past decade, which means that there are tons of years-old and months-old interviews to go through and that’s just what media outlets have started doing. It’s almost as if (kind, gullible) people think that maybe there’s an honest reason why Hillary’s fake Spanish accent comes and goes. There’s the theory that Hillary perhaps had an authentic Spanish accent at one point (lol) but after years of living in America, it disappeared. But no, she’s a liar and the accent was always phony. She was still all-in on her “I’m totally Spanish!!” lie as of NOVEMBER.

The Spanish act was wearing thin last month. Hilaria Baldwin peddled the fashion brand Zara to her podcast listeners in November — proclaiming with an intermittent Spanish accent that she has loved the label since “before I was in this country.’’

“One of the things that I’m obsessed with right now are Zara knits. Their knit clothes, so cute,” the Boston native gushed during her interview with actress Lisa Edelstein of Netflix’s “The Kominsky Method’’ on Nov. 25. “And I’ve always been a Zara fan,’’ said Baldwin, adding a Spanish lilt to her last two words. “It’s, you know, it is a Spanish brand, and so I’ve known about it since, for very, very, very long time before I was in this country. And I’ve always been obsessed with it.”

[From Page Six]

I’m laughing. Yes, Hillary is crazy, but it’s a dumb kind of crazy, not a scary kind of crazy. She really thought she could pull off the big con and what’s insane is that… she actually did pull it off for so long. I think it’s because she and Alec are already so extra, people wanted to avoid paying attention to them anyway, so no one was really in the mood to do some in-depth analysis of just how many lies Hillary told.

Meanwhile, People Mag has taken a decidedly anti-Hilaria stance – they published this essay by Ale Russian, an immigrant journalist who rightly castigates Hillary Thomas for “appropriating a different culture,” saying that her actions are a “slap in the face” to immigrants who have to anglicize their names and try to lose their accents to work in this country. After People published that, Alec Baldwin just couldn’t help himself (again):

He was also active on his Instagram – he posted a Mark Twain quote – “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes” – and one person commented “Like your wife being Spanish when she lived in Massachusetts her entire life. I take it her accent is fake as well? FRAUDS!” Alec’s reply? “Go f–k yourself.” Alec is going to end up punching the Spanish UN Ambassador before this is all over.


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  1. Nev says:

    Seriously does anyone think some trauma may have happened to her for her to develop a whole new persona? I was talking about this with someone yesterday and that was suggested?

    • Celebitchy says:

      Some people are just assholes and grifters? There’s no need to search for reasons to give her a pass.

      • Nev says:

        Ok WORD.
        That’s what I thought.
        Definitely not me trying to give her a pass. Haha

      • Seraphina says:

        I think Nev does have a point and Hilaria’s actions maybe do warrant some type of psychological analysis. I’m not sure if I would say there is trauma there. Usually trauma manifests itself differently than what we see here. I do recall reading the book, the Sociopath Next Door – people who have no conscious – which can run from taking advantage of others with no remorse to the very extreme (which is what we typically associate a sociopath). And I am by no means educated in the field. And maybe she is just an ass. Which speaks volumes about her and Alex. Lord help those children.

      • Snappyfish says:

        Celebitchy is right. She decided she would become exotic & mysterious. Since day one as Mrs. Baldwin she has been extremely thirsty. I’m just surprised she wasn’t outed earlier. The girls I went to HS with (boarding school) would have scorched her hide. She is fortunate she got by this long. I can only imagine what Alec is like behind closed doors about this. I mean she even pulled the “& what do you do?” When they met & he was foolish enough to fall for it

    • Amy Bee says:

      No, she thought being Spanish would help her career.

      • Golly Gee says:

        And the easiest way to fame? Marry someone famous. Apparently Alec had an unrequited crush on Penelope Cruz, so maybe that’s why her Spanish persona was born.

    • Myra says:

      CB is right, there doesn’t have to be a big mystery/diagnosis behind this. What could have started as a small fib on her part, eventually got way out of control and she just didn’t know when or how to stop. We are all flawed human beings after all and adopting a whole persona and fictitious background is hers :). She could still, deep down, be a good person (I don’t know enough about her). All I know is this is the funniest thing I’ve read all year. I’ve spent the past few days on twitter watching/reading people react to this on twitter. I cried watching Sheridan Pierce’s video 🙂

    • Cee says:

      Some people just hate themselves and their reality so they create a new one and, at some point, lose sight of what is real and what is not.

      • Kalana says:

        Right. She probably has serious issues with insecurity and entitlement and felt more confident being able to con people with a lie than risk being judged for her real personality.

      • Ella says:

        She doesn’t “hate herself and her reality.” She loves herself.

    • Jules says:

      She may have some kind of psychological issue, but don’t use the poor victim excuse, that hand gets overplayed.

    • Alibeebee says:

      I love how some people will try to rationalize and explain and reason some peoples blatant poopy behavior. She knew what she did. she was predatory and methodical in her fakery. I love how people always try to rationalize and find an explanation to rationalize away a certain hue of people’s crap behaviour! I wish they’d afford the same for BIPOC folks . when this happens no one cares about their proven devastating lives . Hillary does not get a pass with me. This is culture vulturism at it’s finest . She’s cancelled. she occupied a space and potentially took away opportunities from Real people from Spain or People who are the products of Spanish colonialsm.. so yeah no need to find a reason or some trauma . GROSS

    • MM2 says:

      Underneath histrionic personality disorder & narcissism is usually some childhood trauma, but their trauma can be that they were told they weren’t the most important person in the world, so….. it’s relative.

    • LilyAdam says:


    • kelly says:

      Yes, I do think this stems from youth/family trauma. She bugs the crap out of me, but I have always thought something didn‘t go right in her upbringing to make her constantly humble brag about her body, family and lifestyle. You don‘t marry someone like Alex Baldwin if you felt love growing up. Plus there‘s references to a chosen family, lots of crazy lies, and too many kids with an insolent carmudgeon. Something happened along the path. This could be the time to come clean, but it seems like she‘s just going to keep the facade. Even how she‘s clinging to the obvious lies; it‘s sad.

    • Otaku fairy says:

      She probably thought it made made her more interesting or appealing. That it would somehow further her career (and depending on exactly when the ruse started, make her more appealing to Alec.) Maybe gaslighting her kids about it too was just another way of upholding the lie, in case anyone ever asked them about their heritage.

  2. Rae says:

    I still can’t grasp this story. The sheer level of WTF still makes me shake my head. How on Earth, in this day and age, did she think the receipts wouldn’t ever be shown?

    I wonder if Alec was genuinely in on the ruse?

    • Tom says:

      Forget “30 Rock”. How is this not a recurring storyline on “ Curb Your Enthusiasm”.

      For all its sitcom-style comedy gold, Hillary and Alec need a crisis manager for this mess.

      • Lorelei says:

        LMAO I hope that somehow Larry finds a way to make this “ripped from the headlines” story into an episode of Curb’s next season. Like he finds out a friend’s wife is pulling a Hilaria and sets out to expose her. Please let this happen 🙏🏻

  3. Mindy_Dopple says:

    As others have beautifully said on this site. She took the spot of a legitimate Spanish person on the cover of fashion magazines, on cooking segments and more. She should be talked about and it’s unfortunate for her it’s a slow gossip news cycle. This is the story that keeps on giving. It also appears that Alec is now simply stating that she lives in both places growing up and has changed his tune from “she was born there” or she is Spanish. Wonder what they’re household looks like right now. Eeek!

    • Chicken Tetrazzini! says:

      But he’s met her family right? Her parents, brother? did they all pretend to be from Spain too? I genuinely do not understand how he wouldn’t have some sense that all was not right in her backstory

      • Mindy_Dopple says:

        I don’t think he was that interested in it honestly. He just liked having a hot “spanish” wife and didn’t think too deeply beyond that. People see what they want to see? I AM very curious on how their family went along with this or were they just quietly in the background cringing?

  4. Darla says:

    OMG. Can no one tell Alec to shut up?

    • Esmom says:

      No, because he fired his” team” because they raised red flags about Hillary early on. LMAO. And Hillary probably thinks his comments are helpful. I read that a big part of her schtick has been employing people to clean up on her social media and only post supportive comments. I’m guessing it’s still happening right now.

    • lucy2 says:

      He’s making it worse. Definitely time to go radio silent and let it die out.

      I get wanting to defend someone you love, but…it’s very clear she lied all along, and he’s either still believing the lies (you don’t start speaking English with an accent as an adult just because you spent time in Spain as a child) or he’s too embarrassed and trying to make up stuff to justify it. But it all just looks bad.

  5. Noki says:

    Lol i know a lot has been said about this,i think the main outrage or just confusion is why would a seemingly already privelledged and advantaged woman even so this? There are even legit celebs who scrubbed their heritage even with familiy connections (Charlie Sheen,Jennifer Aniston,Cam Diaz(not her name but her whole cali persona) . She really thought this was endearing without knowing how real people suffer.

    • Boxy Lady says:

      Charlie Sheen and Jennifer Aniston followed the lead of their actor fathers; both men anglicized their names before becoming famous. I’m confused, though, about why you think Cameron Diaz has a “[C]ali persona” since she was actually born and raised in California. That’s just who she is.

      • Genessee says:

        @Noki – I don’t think Cameron Diaz has scrubbed anything from her Cuban/Cali background. She just doesn’t speak Spanish.

        She has herself said: “My father is Cuban. Spanish via Cuba to Tampa, Florida, where my family came many generations ago back in the turn of the century Spanish American War…I grew up with the Cuban heritage, the Cuban culture, the food, the language, although I don’t speak Spanish… well I can barely speak English. And that’s where I am from.”

        And in another interview she said ” I guess… you know, I know the feeling, being Hispanic myself and not looking Hispanic. And I wish that I was able to speak Spanish when I was a kid because I always thought that would just show people.” https://www.dinnerpartydownload.org/cameron-diaz/

      • lucy2 says:

        I just looked up John Aniston – his father (Jennifer’s grandfather) shortened their name when they came to the US when John was 2, in the 1930s, in an era when many immigrants did that. I think Jennifer’s legal name has always been Aniston.
        The Sheen name was changed for ease in getting roles, I don’t know if they changed it legally or it’s just a stage name.

    • Seraphina says:

      Yes actors have sterilized their names but we also have examples of immigrants who have tried to scrub their name clean from ties to the homeland. Whether trying to “fit in” to their adopted homeland (that’s the romanticized version) or because they may be ostracized for where they are from. And in Hollywood, to be able to make yourself employable you had to be scrubbed clean and “American”. There is a hilarious interview where Zach Galifianakis grills Anniston for denying her Greek roots with her name change – unlike him who did not. But as Boxy Lady stated, she followed that due to her father’s stage name.

      • Ann says:

        Interesting, I didn’t know Aniston was part Greek. I always thought she looked a little like Tom Hanks’ wife, Rita Wilson, who is Greek. Similar eyes, features.

  6. Peanut says:

    Bess Kalb does the most fantastic impression of Hillary’s Instagram monologue on her own Instagram. Go watch it now, I promise you won’t be disappointed. She also does Ivanka trying to get a reservation, a seat at fashion week…absolutely perfect.

    • Jordana says:

      @peanut, thank you! I hadn’t heard of bess kalb before so I had to check out her insta. That was fantastic!

    • emma33 says:

      ha ha…I’m Australian so that was doubly amusing. Heather McDonald also has a great take on her insta where she does a take off as a fake Irishwoman.

      It’s a slow news cycle in a pandemic….Hilaria must be going mental that we all have about 20 hours a day to spend reading bonkers stories like hers.

      I have always given a huge side-eye to her popping out kids every 5 minutes. Some people have a lot of kids because it’s really what they are great at and they just love it, but something just seemed off with Hilaria. She seems to have too many narcissitic traits to be someone who is a great mum. Also, why is she having a tonne of kids with someone who openly admits to not parenting much? It is weird AF.

  7. lola says:

    I’m dying to know how aware Alec was/is about the whole thing.
    Did he only find out about it last week? Has he been in denial about it for years? Allegedly he fired people who questioned his wife’s spanishness.

    • Golly Gee says:

      Yes! Inquiring minds want to know!

    • TQ says:

      Yes @Lola! I bet he didn’t know and is in denial he fell in love with a phoney. Guess he saw what he wanted to see.

      • Esmom says:

        People seem to think he is still in denial. His rage at any unflattering light being shined on them is preventing him from a full reckoning right now, maybe.

      • Lillyfromlilooet says:

        I think he didn’t know, maybe lived in some twilight cloud of hmmm at breakfast with their growing number of children when she slipped a couple of details to get him habituated to the idea that her story has some aspects he hadn’t heard of before she clapped on the handcuffs I mean wedding ring.

        I loved him on 30 Rock, I loved him as Trump on SNL; but outside work, I get unstable angry boozehound who does not like being lied to (who does?) and that could lead him to eventually sour on Hillary. I am sure she has taken over managing his life and assuring he is treated like a king so I don’t see him leaving her; I do see her going into his study at pre-dinner cocktail hour and having him rage at her fakery in that scary way he has, only to behave like it never happened the next day.

        What will change is her public life. I don’t see Lisa Edelstein ever sitting down with her again, I don’t know if she has endorsements but bye bye to those and magazines won’t/shouldn’t be writing adorable lifestyle puff pieces.

      • MM2 says:

        @lillyfromlilooet Alec seems like a man who has serious issues with rage, but he’s not a boozehound. He’s been open about his over 30 years of sobriety.

        I wonder if we will give Alec the same compassion that we give women who have been duped, enjoyed denial & even covered for their narcissistic men. This kind of relationship isn’t new, it’s just the opposite gender roles than we are used to seeing. I’m going to go out on a limb & say Alec is actually the biggest victim in this story.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      I think he knew and is denial about it – this makes him look like the a sad old man who is living out some sort of fantasy with a Spanish women (others have said he’s long had a crush/obsession over Penelope Cruz) and Hillary fits that fantasy. She’s clearly mentally unwell and had this persona before she met him.

      They have 5 young kids – if he dumps her the divorce and public fall out from it is going to make his divorce from Kim Basinger pale in comparison.

      • LaurenMichelle says:

        Kim was/is naturally gorgeous, reclusive, articulate, intelligent, a very successful model, and an Oscar winning actress.

        Hilaria is a non-stop attention seeking, grifting, gold-digger . Alec is a hot-tempered egomaniac who has embarrassed his family with his antics. I do think he is very talented, but his personality is mostly offensive.

        I remember there were reports that Alec verbally abused Kim, and I think he was jealous that she won an Oscar in 1997 for LA Confidential. Their marriage rapidly disintegrated after Kim’s Oscar win.

        Alec now looks like an old fool who met his match with Hilaria. He probably thought that he married a young woman who worshipped him. Instead, Alec has acquired a disturbed “baby collector” (his words), whom is amazingly more offensive than he is. Good riddance.

      • Lorelei says:

        @DU: if Alec divorces her, that will be the sh!tshow to end all sh!tshows. Just imagine the stories in 2021 if these two turn against each other and start warring in the press.

        If there weren’t children involved I would look forward to this, but I feel so sorry for those poor kids.

    • Golly Gee says:

      According to another commentor on the Celebitchy blog about the New York Times article , he knew. The comment from MaeMm reads:

      “First time commenter here, long time reader. He definitely knew. I lived with her cousin after college, the whole family mocked her “Hilaria” persona. Also, their grandmother hated Alec and disapproved of Hillary marrying an old man (the grandmother was born and raised in MA -btw).”

      So if this is true, mystery solved!


  8. Amy Bee says:

    I’m starting to think Alec Baldwin was in on the con, maybe not from the start but at some point he decided to go along with this act.

    • Bettyrose says:

      That’s my thinking. He had to have figured it out around the wedding but just went with it because it suited him too.

  9. JaneDoesWerk says:

    SO cringey. Anyone else getting the impression that he still hasn’t heard the whole truth because he’s ONLY listening to her? I think hes in denial big time. Again, they have 5 very young kids together, maybe the truth is too hard to accept?

    • Granger says:

      I do get that impression–but here’s what I don’t understand… was her entire family in on this? Her parents and siblings? Did they never say to her or Alec over the years, “ummm, you do realize you’re giving everyone the impression you were born and raised in Spain”? What on earth are they thinking now???

      • lola says:

        DailyMail reported about her wedding and she said that her family didn’t know how to pronounce Baldwin. So did she just lie or did her family actually mispronounced Baldwin in front of Alec?!

      • Christina says:

        I think that he didn’t want to know because he loves her and she makes him happy, and his privilege has shielded him until now.

        On the Reddit thread, there is a discussion started by someone in Spain who used to buy from her brother Jeremy’s nutrition business. The diet he sells was endorsed by a doctor who claimed it cured diabetes. Hilaria and Alec endorsed the diet at the bottom of the website.

        The doctor? Jeremy and Hilaria’s mother. Jeremy, mom, and the Baldwins have different last names, so it looks impressive that Alec B is endorsing a business based on how it works, not because his MIL and brother in law needed publicity for the business. Did Alec understand how bad that looks, how it would look like they were using him? He’s a volatile person, but did he know that this was happening? I wondered why her mom wasn’t defending her. She can’t. Mom may have taught at Harvard, but she is providing a medical endorsement for her son’s business without disclosing she’s his mom. Perhaps not illegal, but absolutely a bad look.

      • Dollycoa says:

        The Ave Maria thing really tickled me because I can sing the whole thing through in Latin due to many years of Catholic church/ school. Maybe I’m Italian? Or the Pope? Its as if shes tried to find everything stereotypically Spanish to shore up.the lie and has got confused, as tourists do, with stuff that isnt even Spanish! I wonder how many real Spanish people have flamenco fans at their weddings or even wear the mantilla veil or say ‘Si’ when the entire ceremony is in English? Alec Baldwin needs to stfu. His wife is a fake and he was either too stupid to know, too disinterested in his trophy wife to care or was complicit. I bet hes more upset that she shaved 9 years off her age because it means he didnt bag a 20 something yoga teacher but a late 30’s yoga teacher!

    • Miss Margo says:

      Omg and the kids have spanish names too. LMFAO

    • LaUnicaAngelina says:

      So cringey is right! Whew! The hot mess of a story is the gift that keeps on giving.

      My accent goes all over the place depending on who I’m around. Mine can be pretty neutral a majority of the time but when I’m around my family, it’ll switch to a mild Mexican accent. If I’m around those with strong Texas accents, mine gets twangy. It’s unconscious code switching.

      The thing with Hillary is that she is not Spanish, or based on what’s been reported, didn’t grow up in a Spanish speaking home. She’s just a grifting asshole. I do feel sorry for the kids though and kinda feel sorry for Alec if he was originally conned by her.

      • Mindy_Dopple says:

        Yes LaUnica! I was going to mention code switching. Around my Mexican family I jump in and out of English/Spanish and some things just need extra emphasis when saying in Spanish. We tend to get louder too but that’s just how we naturally are. She has no excuse. When I’m around my friends I speak a little looser – more slang and silly, it just happens because of the environment and people.

      • LaUnicaAngelina says:

        @Mindy_Dopple, yes! I get really slangy too and often switch between English/Spanish even mid-sentence.

      • Christina says:

        I hear you. I have code switched most of my life. Growing up in South Central LA in a majority Black community in a Spanish and English speaking household, I code switched between Spanglish and the southern accent my friends spoke to me with depending on who I was with. I spoke “Brady Bunch” neutral English for jobs and around white people.

        Our family is very mixed with Mexican, Black American, and white people from various European/American cultures (Germany, England). It is code switching for survival because of the history of racism in this country, and I still do it. I work NOT to do it because most people see me as white. My sister is dark skinned, so she isn’t called out for the code switching like I sometimes am. Me being me makes makes people uncomfortable in the Black and Brown communities because I look white.

        I love Halsey’s respect for Black people. She knows that people view her as white, but she identifies and IS racially and cultural Black. I identify with her a lot. Black and brown people who don’t know me don’t know, and there is so much racism that I can’t be upset when people don’t understand how culturally mixed I am, but I don’t tell people I’m Black because I’m not. I do say that I am Mexican American because my bio dad is Mexican born and my moms parents are first and second generation from Mexico.

      • Mindy_Dopple says:

        @Christina I feel you about the going ‘brady bunch’ to survive. When we used to be around people in an office setting my coworkers would apologize to ME if they cursed or got too rowdy because of the appearance of being super professional that I projected. If they ONLY KNEW how I spoke around my friends and family. But we do it because we know we’re ALREADY perceived differently and we felt we needed to be more than average to succeed.

      • Christina says:

        Precisely, Mindy_Dopple.

        During the last several years, I have started to bleed my real self into work. Now that I am over 50, I still code switch, but what I know about racism at work and in society is more “out”. I have a little more financial security now. It is still terrifying.

        Like you said, if they only knew.

      • MrsClincy says:

        I was born in Wisconsin but spent a lot of my teenage years in Alabama so I acquired a southern accent. I have been back in Wisconsin for years now and despite a few words that sound ‘country’ you don’t hear my southern accent. Now if I’m around people with southern accents mine kicks in with full force and not on purpose it just does but even then I let people know its because I spent a good chunk of my teenage years in Alabama but I was born up here and have been living back up here for years and it only kicks in when I’m talking to my family that is still down south our I’m around other Southerners.

    • Trytokeepup says:

      I think Alec is like a lot of men who settle for a woman who pursued them without realizing what they are getting into. They mistake the craziness for being loved intensely and they crave that and feel it validates them. As time goes on, at some level they realize they married someone batshit and maybe even dangerous, but by that point they are enmeshed financially and maybe have kids, and admitting their wife is crazy would have consequences, not the least of which is that it would mean admitting they made a poor choice and all that “adoration” was actually big crazy stink lines that everyone but them could smell a mile away. His friends will cut ties or avoid the wife, his family will try to warn him, and little revelations will continue to flow in (she will have lied about things that eventually become clear, and her mental health issues/addiction/various disorders etc will eventually become hard to ignore), but especially if he has trouble admitting when he is wrong, he will refuse to admit that deep down he knows what she is, because admitting that would mean admitting he was conned and that she isn’t as valuable as he thought she was. He may even cut off people who try to warn him. And the kids will suffer … So very sad.

  10. SarahCS says:

    I am enjoying this on many levels, starting with her rightly being called out for her faking and privilege and right down to the way he’s screaming at everyone because of course that will fix everything. He and the orange one truly are birds of a feather.

    • Julie says:

      DTS/Orange Man Bad is rampant on this page it seems, but you have no worry of the corrupt, grifter Biden & China in control of our country? Very odd.

    • Julie says:

      DTS/Orange Man Bad is rampant on this page it seems, but you have no worry of the corrupt, grifter Biden & China in control of our country? Very odd.

  11. Seraphina says:

    I am on the floor laughing: “Alec is going to end up punching the Spanish UN Ambassador before this is all over.” and that she stated Ave Maria was her favorite Spanish song as a child. HILARIOUS.

  12. Case says:

    This story is just batshit crazy to me. I vacationed in South Carolina most summers when I was little. That doesn’t mean I have a southern accent and say I’m from there. LOL.

  13. Angel says:

    Señor Alejandro Baldwin is looking so dam stupid trying to defend his esposa del scandalo. Now they both look ridiculous. They should leave social media for a while.

    • Seraphina says:

      Alejandro! LMAO. You took me 20 years back to Spanish I in high school. You are correct, that is his Spanish name. Good one.

  14. Elizabeth Kerri Mahon says:

    I can’t believe he didn’t know. He’s met her parents, correct they’re both American. And Hilaria’s excuse is that her accent is because she’s bilingual. I know plenty of people who were born here, who are bilingual, who speak English with an American accent, so that doesn’t wash. I think he liked the idea of having a Spanish wife, otherwise my go on Letterman and tell the audience his wife is Spanish?

    • ican'tanymore says:

      Two thoughts: One, in her grandfather’s obituary, it specifically stated that when he travelled with his children to Argentina (because of work), they decided they wanted to learn another language and took on Spanish because they liked it. No heritage whatsoever. Inspired by travel. Maybe moved to Spain because they liked the idea of going there are expats, but not because they were FROM Spain and returning to their “homeland”.

      Second thought: My mother was a Brasilian. Born and raised there and 100% of her family remains there. Thick accent until the day she passed away (she came to the U.S. when she married my Dad). I have dual citizenship but I look very white (not untypical for Brasilians where 49% of people choose “white” as their racial identity – not ethnic identity…Brasil has as much a melting pot history as the U.S. for reasons including refugees, colonialists, first nations, slavery, immigration, etc). I don’t speak with an accent because I was born here and even though Portuguese was my first language because my Mom didn’t speak English yet, I grew up in an English-speaking community. I also lived in Miami for the last 20 years and yes, people often switch between English and Spanish mid-sentence (Spanglish) because it’s as natural a part of Miami as loud music and dancing…but unless they were born overseas, none of my friends have Spanish accents when speaking English because merely being bilingual doesn’t give you an accent. It just doesn’t. They have beautiful Spanish accents when they speak Spanish and no accent when speaking English. It’s just not a thing unless they weren’t around English speakers AT ALL in childhood and didn’t attend school – which isn’t true of Hilaria.

  15. CMS says:

    I think she just got caught up. She had some connection to Spain. She just sort of got caught up in her own lie and started believing it. It just went on for so long. It is wild. I can’t figure out how her friends and classmates from BOSTON didn’t out her before this.

    • MA says:

      Apparently there were rumors going back years. I saw screenshots of Celebitchy comments discussing this in 2016. La familia Baldwin responding to the rumors blew it wide open.

      • Lorelei says:

        @MA when this all broke a few days ago, I texted my friend saying “didn’t we already know about this years ago? Back when he first got together with her?” and I felt like I was going insane. So this makes me feel better! It was definitely not a complete secret until now, at least not the name change.

  16. Mrs. Peel says:

    Will Scarlett Johansson be playing her in the film adaptation?

  17. Emily says:

    I wonder if this whole grift started to appear more interesting to Alec and to claim she didn’t get celebrity culture (I’m so different and exotic and not an American social climber)? Or she felt pressure to be interesting now that she was a celebrity wife.

    Whatever the reason, it’s so weird and wrong. I understand feeling an affinity for Spanish culture if she spent a lot of time there as a child — but that does not make you from Spain.

    This story is really great.

  18. CMS says:

    I also want to say, that I feel bad for Ireland and the small kids. Ireland has been dragged through so much of her dad’s drama and public embarrassment already. I mean I still cringe, when I think of that voice mail. How awful was that. I think people should leave her alone. She can be supportive of her family and not have to explain herself.

    • Seraphina says:

      CMS thank you for that statement. I too feel sorry for these kids. They are the ones being hurt by these antics and while children are resilient, it must suck to have two unhinged parents to deal with.

    • Mindy_Dopple says:

      I HATE that Ireland felt the need to post something or make a statement on social media in defense of her father’s new wife. I wouldn’t call her a stepmother because Ireland is a grown woman and doesn’t spend that much time with them. Ireland – leave your dad’s mess – to your dad. It has nothing to do with you.

      • Lorelei says:

        Same. Hillary’s children are going to be caught up in this no matter what, but I wish poor Ireland could have just stayed away from it completely.

        Re: the voicemail— if it’s true that Kim Basinger is the one who leaked it to the media in order to make Alec look bad, I think that almost makes her seem worse than Alec. He NEVER should have called his daughter a pig, but if Kim was in fact preventing him from having contact with his daughter, I understand his frustration and that maybe he just snapped. And now Ireland is forever associated with that voicemail in the eyes of the public.

        Obviously Alec has a well-documented temper and some serious anger issues so I’m really not defending him, but for Ireland’s sake, the whole world never should have heard that voicemail and been dragged into her private life. IMO

  19. Roma says:

    There’s a New York Times interview with her that came out this morning. She’s still blaming the media and others for construing that she was from Spain. She’s had time to meet with crisis managers, and is instead choosing to double down on it all – including the accent.

    • Esmom says:

      Then how does she explain her bios, which say she was born in Spain? That would have been an easy thing to correct if it had been someone else’s mistake. Smh

      Ironic that they seem to be trying to use Trump’s playbook.

      • Roma says:

        This is what’s wild to me; she claims she didn’t read anything about herself so she had no clue they were falsely claiming she was born is Spain. She called CAA’s bio a “disappointment” which I think implies they’ve cut ties, or they will shortly.

      • Sarah says:

        This is the part that gets me. Bios are written by PR people or the person themselves and they are fact checked – especially when it’s your own damn representation publishing it, not to mention major publications. Sure, things are embellished like a resume, but facts are facts. Hell, I gave a five minute interview on an English-language radio station in Montreal last week and the producer double checked my intro days in advance. Does this make me from Quebec now? LOL.

    • whateveryousay says:

      I love that she’s blaming the media. Girl. Stop. No one made you have an “accent” and talk to your kids about the color of your damn skin. Ugh.

    • Jules says:

      Wow, almost as if she’s been lying for so long, she doesn’t even know what’s true anymore.

  20. tempest prognosticator says:

    Alec’s stalker tried to tell everyone, which just cracks me up even more. This whole thing is gossip gold.

  21. Suki64 says:

    This reminds me of the movie The Imposter. A missing boy turns up in Spain. At one point in the movie, they interview an expert..maybe someone from the FBI who explains that someone who was raised until a certain age speaking a language, won’t have an accent even if they spent years away.

  22. Digital Unicorn says:

    Someone ought to take the spade away from both of them as the hole they are digging for themselves is just getting deeper.

    Also, anyone who has been in most European countries will have heard of Zara. It’s a high street brand that has been around for a LOOOOONG time. Can’t remember exactly when it popped up on the UK high street but its been here as long I have lived in London and thats about 20 yrs.

    Her cosplaying of a Spanish/Latin American person is down right offensive and it is right that she is being called out on it, shame that it took this long. It IS cultural appropriation regardless of what she or her tw@tty husband say – she is NOT Spanish, she’s an American who visited Spain a lot as a tourist.

  23. Marie says:

    NYT just published an article this morning, and she is doubling down, stating that some how the media got it wrong, the public got it wrong, and that she never claimed to be Spanish. The reason she didn’t talk about certain details in her life was out of respect to the privacy of her family. She is literally trying to gaslight everyone! Yes, Hilary, WE ARE ALL crazy!

    • whatWHAT? says:

      jeez, did her agent/agency get it wrong, too? because her bio on their page allegedly says she was born in Spain.

      doubt they’d do that unless SHE gave them that info.

    • Jules says:

      There’s so much content here, this story is gonna take us right into 2021, with leftovers.

  24. Sarah says:

    For all the folks still making excuses for her and saying what’s the big deal…she used her spray tanned hand to explain racism to her child with MLK playing in the background. This insane facade is indeed harmful.

    • Stacy Dresden says:

      The MLK video is not funny at all. It turns my stomach that someone would do this and speaking to their own child, no less. What an egregious lie.

    • BearcatLawyer says:

      THIS. Her ethnocultural cos play can end at any time, and she will be JUST FINE. Immigrants and POC are not as lucky.

      She has always been a thirsty famewhore. She needs to take all the seats and shut up.

    • ME says:

      Thanks for the link of that video. Holy sh*t this woman is insane ! She’s even lying to her own children ! B*tch you are not a woman of color, you are a white woman that spray tans !!!!!!!

      • Lorelei says:

        The sad thing is, she’s actually teaching her daughter the correct thing in that video, but the message gets lost in all of her lies and gaslighting.

  25. Seraphina says:

    I heard the clips and I can’t quite pick up her Spanish accent. Maybe it’s because my ear is trained to thicker accents since my family all have emigrated and speak English with very thick accents and roll their Rs heavily.

    • Dilettante says:

      That’s because it’s barely there, and sporadically.

      As Jules said above, there’s so much content here it’ll take us into 2021. And I’m here for it!

  26. Mina_Esq says:

    This would mean before she was 19? Everyone knows that Spanish girls in their teens and women in early 20’s prefer Mango to Zara. More lies! lol 🙂

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      OMG I forgot Mango was another Spanish store. I loved Mango in my early 20s but as i got older I preferred Zara.

      • Cee says:

        I still prefer MNG to Zara, and I’m 33. Their quality is better IMO Their jeans are perfect for my body. I believe half my closet is MNG+Zara

    • Ashley says:

      Eh I’m 34 and I prefer Mango. The clothes are usually lighter, more feminine and a little more classic. Whereas Zara is uber trendy. Their windows in my Paris neighborhood always had runway type pieces that you could maybe wear once and only for a certain season. They were not classic staples by any means. The clothes are also more heavily black and look slightly clubby. I would say Zara is more Paris though. Lots of blacks, greys, leathers, statement pieces that French women don’t wear but what people believe they do. Mango in comparison seems lighter, more desert tones, less heavy. I guess you’d have to walk down Rivoli and see the Mango and Zara stores opposite each other to see what I mean. Mango is all golden and medium brown wood, and Zara is all black, silver and marble floors. If a Spanish woman was going to Ibiza she might wear Zara. If she was going to Tabernas she’d wear Mango. They’re very different styles. Despite both being Spanish.

  27. Nadeni says:

    Her dark hair and eyebrows always looked so fake to me and didn’t really go with the rest of her coloring. Like she isn’t naturally supposed to be that dark especially with all the super blonde kids! That was suspicious to me and I’ve never heard her speak.

    • Esmom says:

      In the videos I saw of her mom, she is fair with light hair. It does seem she maybe darkened her hair and skin.

    • Miss Margo says:

      Yes! I remember seeing how blond all five kids were and thought how odd it was. Like, at least one of the kids should have looked spanish. What a loser. And the kids names are super spanish. Omg, those kids are going to be tormented in school.

  28. Blondems says:

    My two cents! I lived all over the world up to age 10 and learned Spanish at age 4 at an immersive bilingual school. Depending on who I’m speaking to, my accent aligns more with theirs. When speaking to Americans a twang comes out, English people, my English accent, Kiwis and Australians the same. My typical accent is a mix of all of these places. However, I’ve lived in Mexico full time for around 13 years now, and while the above points on my accent stand, I never sound like a non-native English speaker. That is the point. There’s a HUGE difference between your accent reflecting where you are and who you’re speaking to to speaking like a non-native English speaker. If anything, I will mix up forms of speech for instance, instead of saying ‘I’m going to my parents’ house’ in English I’ll say ‘I’m going to the house of my parents” which is a direct translation from Spanish. I’ll also occasionally use ‘ehhh’ instead of ‘umm’ but take it from me – your accent doesn’t change from non-native speaker to native speaker depending on how long you’ve been speaking one language or the other on any given day!

    • Bettyrose says:

      Blondems.. your post reminds me of when I was living in Japan. I wasn’t bilingual. I only spoke very basic Japanese (for shopping and asking directions etc). I certainly didn’t change my accent when speaking English but I would slip into Japanese grammatical structures sometimes when speaking English. That happens because you’re focusing so much on learning the grammatical structure of the language you’re immersed in. I remember thinking sometimes “okay even I don’t understand what I just said.” LOL.

      • Blondems says:

        Exactly! If it was sentence structure that got confused on occasion I’d let it slide, but a whole different identity?

  29. Mrs. Peel says:

    Muy desesperada. She craved attention, now she’s got it.

  30. Peanut says:

    Bess Kalb does the most fantastic impression of her monologue in her own Instagram as well as Ivanka trying and failing to get a reservation, seat at fashion week, etc. You won’t be disappointed.

  31. Cat says:

    Maybe her family saw she was a whackadoodle for carrying on the charade and they’re estranged? Or more likely she knew they’d bust her out…

  32. Jane Doe says:

    This is about white women and white privilege, period. Every year there are multiple white women exposed who have engaged in race-shifting or faking their ethnicity for financial gain. They either occupy lucrative influential positions, preventing minority women from gaining access or lean into stereotypes that are harmful to others who actually are of that race or ethnicity. The difference this time was she appropriated another white ethnicity. This year other white women claimed to be Indigenous to get arts grants and production roles on a new tv series and a white woman fraud claimed to be Afro-Latina to get a tenured academic role. This fraud has real financial and equity consequences for other people who are discriminated against.

  33. Nancy says:

    This is all a funny distraction I suppose, but TBH I never knew she claimed to have any Spanish heritage at all. All I knew about her is that she was a yoga instructor and that she married Alec Baldwin young – and that she kept in pretty good shape while having babies. And I think I heard recently she’s had a miscarriage? I always assumed she was American despite her name, and I never had any reason to hear her talk. I have little to no opinion about her at all, but I think the funny distraction is going perhaps a little too far into the “let’s destroy women who’ve gotten too big for their britches” territory, IMHO.

    • Cee says:

      She has said multiple times, on record, that she was born in Mallorca to at least one Spanish parent, has Spanish heritage, Spanish is her native language, she was schooled there and first came to the US to attend uni at NYU.

      She did more than pretend.

    • kif says:

      @Nancy – operative words being “never knew” but now that you do, fairly easy enough to search online her faking a spanish accent to speak english (how absurd is that – an american who was born, studied, works and lives in the US, because she takes vacations in Spain, now speaks english with a spanish accent? for her to speak spanish with a spanish accent is acceptable and even expected since she learned it while she was there and she heard how the words were spoken. but english is her primary language and her default accent); alec telling david letterman, jimmy fallon his wife is from spain and mimicking her accent for humor; her magazine interviews; egregious of all – her comparing her “brown skin” to her fairer daughter during MLK day and narrating her experience of being mistaken as the nanny of her blonde children because she spoke spanish – do you still think this is just about “let’s destroy women who’ve gotten too big for their britches”?

      this is a privileged white woman, daughter to a doctor & lawyer and educated in private schools and she thinks nothing of hijacking the narratives of immigrants to appear more interesting and exotic. women like her need to be destroyed – not her person but her celebrity, her platform. her kind of toxicity will not be missed publicly.

  34. Cee says:

    Someone please tell Hillary that Zara has been a global brand for decades.
    I doubt she even knows MNG or Desigual.

    Alec Baldwin comes across as deluded and stubborn – he really doesn’t want to admit his wife conned everyone around her. Still peddles the lie she lived in Spain for years. Vacationing sporadically does not make you a citizen of a country nor part of its culture. If that were the case I would be American on top of being Argentinian and Italian.

    • Lorelei says:

      Alec is NOT helping her right now— the best thing he could do is STFU. He can let his team do the best that they can with this mess, but once he finds himself telling random people to “F-ck off!” on Twitter or wherever, it’s time for sometime to take his phone away. He’s making it so much worse.

      It would be nice if ONE PERSON in this mess would think about what the best way to handle this for the children would be…instead of their egos refusing to let them admit any lying or even “getting carried away” and allowing this story to fade away more quickly, they’re dragging it out and putting more fodder out there that these kids will eventually see.

  35. Wendybird says:

    The likelihood that she even lived in Spain for extended periods of time during her childhood feels really slim. Her mother was practicing at Mass Gen from the early 90’s until around’02.

    I also love that in the Page Six montage the wedding photo is clearly supposed to look like the bride and mother of the bride with Hilaria standing next to a woman of color and that’s totally not her mother.

  36. Deanne says:

    She claimed that her parents couldn’t pronounce Baldwin when she told them his name. She’s about as full of sh#t as you can get. I feel so sorry for those kids. The skin colour comparison with Carmen is enough to see exactly how deranged she is. Alec can rage all that he wants. He looks like an idiot every which way you slice it. He’s either been duped by a total fantasist, or he’s been playing along with the con himself. Didn’t he have a stalker from Canada who claimed that Hillary was a complete fraud?

    • shasha says:

      Please elaborate on the stalker, I’m rolling on the floor here, that has the be the funniest part of the whole thing.

      • Tinnie says:

        Her first name is Genevieve and the New York Daily News did a story on it. It was in one of the tweet threads but I can’t recall where now. Maybe the story in the Daily Beast?

  37. Brailler says:

    Exactly!! Just today, Alec Baldwin tweeted she “lived in Spain for many years as a child”, which is literally impossible. Both parents worked full-time in Boston and she and her brother were in elementary, middle, and high school full time in Massachusetts, so there is no way they lived in Spain for “many years”. Visited, yes, that is possible. But only for short bursts of time. I doubt her parents even had enough vacation time to spend full summers there! And her on-the-record claim that her 4th generation American parents were unable to pronounce her new last name, Baldwin??? Impossible.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Is Alec Baldwin not known in Spain? Someone in the Baldwin clan is always in the media spotlight for something. Spain has tv and Internet yes? American media is fking hard to escape even if you wanted to. I guess I could buy that her elderly Spanish parents hadn’t heard of him but not that the name Baldwin was completely unknown throughout her extended family and community. It’s not even a plausible deception.

      • Lorelei says:

        I’m pretty sure he’s known internationally? He’s had such a long career and some pretty high-profile roles.

        In any case, the “Baldwin” thing is so, so funny. It might be believable if it was, for example, Zach Galifianakis, but everyone knows how to pronounce Baldwin ffs.

      • Lula says:

        I am also confused as to why this would be hard to pronounce by a native Spanish speaker. #2 Does she think that no speaks English in Spain? That Spanish citizens have zero exposure to ennglish vocabulary?

      • Dollycoa says:

        Well they are huddled around the one working TV in the village when they manage to pump up the windmill enough to get electricity. Even then would rather do Flamenco dancing or sing songs on the veranda with granny and their 17 children than watch Hollywood movies. Thats why they cant pronounce simple English names!

  38. ME says:

    This just gets more and more insane. Did she forget she was BORN in America and didn’t “come to this country” ??? Also, even if she spent a few summers in Spain, she wouldn’t have picked up a Spanish accent. She spent way more time in America, went to school here too. She would have a Boston accent if anything. This woman is crazy and so is her dumbf*ck husband for thinking he can talk us in to believing his wife is some poor victim.

  39. Lady Keller says:

    Quick. Get pregnant before this story gains anymore traction. Then we can go back to talking about what a weird baby hoarder you are.

    • Lorelei says:

      That’s exactly what’s going to happen. You called it.

      Never mind the fact that she already has god knows how many small children plus a three-month-old and seems to spend the majority of her time on Instagram.

  40. Mignionette says:

    This marriage is DONE. Alec will not go down or for this ship.

    They will have a period of quiet and Lawyers negotiations behind the scenes then announce an amicable divorce, then Alec will get his PR people to push all the blame on “Hilaria”.

    • StormsMama says:

      That’s what I think too

      On the surface he’s defending her. OF COURSE HE IS. that’s his personality and also he got swindled bc of his own desires and his genuine lack of interest in truly knowing her. See she claims they met when he said I must know you. And yet.

      So I agree. I think now that the cracks are there in the facade, there will be a lull while he gets his ducks in a row and his lawyers get it all figured out. Then he will distance himself from her. He doesn’t wasn’t to fail bc of the trauma of his failed marriage to Kim. And she took advantage of that. She used his vulnerability and now with all the babies it’s so late for him to claim ignorance. But honestly he’s so wrapped in his own celebrity and I think he got off on her being so fit and exotic or whatever and into him. And I think he never bothered early on to doubt her. He seems to still be holding on to the lie. I think he never really knew her. Just desserts for just desserts.

  41. Bettyrose says:

    Who is Sheridan Pierce? That was friggin’ perfect.

  42. Lunasf17 says:

    Alec has to know he has been manipulated but maybe he is still in denial ? They met in 2011, engaged in 2012 and married three months later. That’s not very long to really know someone. Maybe he had some doubts but he got his hot young trophy wife and she got her wealthy husband and kids so they let it slide. So bizarre! I feel like they live pretty separate lives. She pushes out babies and does the mommy influencer thing that wealthy women who don’t need to work do and he probably does whatever he wants and the transaction works for both of these idiots. They deserve each other!

  43. Jaded says:

    Mentirosa mentirosa pantalones en llamas!!!

  44. lowercaselois says:

    I thought this might be over by now , and it clearly is the gift that keeps on giving.

  45. Allison says:

    Oh my gosh, this story is just WILD! I an definitely noticing how Penelope Cruz-like she is clearly trying to be in a lot of these photos. And her fake accent?! It blows my mind that someone would commit to such a bizarre lie in order to appear more “exotic” (yikes)

  46. B n A fn says:

    One thing I remember about HB is, she had said when she met AB she did not know who he was or that he was famous. For her to keep this going for such a long time she must not be right in the head. I cannot believe she kept this from AB all this time, if so she needs to be in therapy.

  47. Villern says:

    I read that People magazine article and frankly, people need to stop taking offense about every single stupid thing others do and make it about themselves. As a fellow first generation Venezuelan immigrant, if having Hilaria fake a Spanish background devastates you – when there is so much suffering and pain in the world, especially in our country of origin, I have no sympathy for you

    • Redder says:

      No one is devastated by this story. But please don’t tell others how to feel. Just because you don’t care, does not mean you speak for every immigrant. People can be upset about this, and still focus on the other things as well. We all can care about multiple things at once. I hate comments like this.

  48. Annetommy says:

    I’ve got a theory Melania Trump is from Hoboken and her accent is a fake.

    • bettyrose says:

      The *only* reason I can’t buy into that theory is that no way would she have stayed with him this long if she had options.

  49. Lorelei says:

    I’m actually surprised that pretending to have no idea who he was even worked on Alec because he seems like the type to have such an enormous ego that he’d be offended if someone didn’t know exactly who he was.

    You know he’s the type that screams “Don’t you know who I am?!!” whenever he’s even slightly inconvenienced.

  50. Share e says:

    Since when have Spanish people been people of colour

    • Dollycoa says:

      Its not so much shes claiming to be a POC but she is claiming to be an immigrant. White immigrants with accents also get grief. For their accents, their ‘ otherness’ and for their names, which often have to be anglicised because people dont make an effort to pronounce properly. She also pretended to be a poor immigrant who didnt have a TV in Spain and pretended she was mistaken for her childrens nanny. Well if that was so offensive to her, she could have just spoken with her Bostonian accent and stopped fake tanning. This happens to mothers of mixed race children, but they dont have that option. She has fetishised other peoples experiences because she has never had to live with them.

  51. Donna Martin says:

    Spanish speaker here (though not from Spain) I don’t hear the accent people are claiming about her but I remember thinking she was USA born with Spanish ancestry because I couldn’t tell she was from Spain in any way. Anyhow this whole thing is hilarious and I’m glad I’m finally getting a chuckle in 2020

  52. Mel says:

    The audacity of caucasity strikes again. Putting on fake accents, lowering your voice batting your eyelashes while scamming people seems to be a thing and no questions you because you’re WHITE! Then when you’re caught all the excuse making comes out. Please, she married a famous , rich guy and took on the vegan, yoga princess , exotic earth mother persona to force herself into the culture and make her own fame away from the person she used to get her there. She’s a scheming culture vulture. Period!

  53. The Voice says:

    What a load of BS. I’m bilingual, born and raised in California, spoke Mandarin exclusively at home with my parents. I speak English with no Chinese accent and never have even if I speak Chinglish.

    She’s a thirsty one. She fast-tracked her way to fame by landing someone famous (is he the best she could do?). She thought she would appear more exotic to Alec and probably didn’t correct him when he assumed she was Spanish. She had to lean in hard to this lie. She probably lived it so long that she’s still sticking to the speech patterns she developed to pull it off. She’ll never acknowledge she messed up and will go to the grave defending herself. I hope her Insta followers leave in droves.

  54. Linda says:

    The whole thing is strange and she’s a fuckin’ weirdo.

  55. AGreat2021 says:

    Saw a red-carpet pic of her; those are definitely implants. The outline of them ‘plants was so obvious in that pic and it looked painful.

    • bettyrose says:

      I mean, maybe they are. She’s always either pregnant or breastfeeding, so it’s hard to say for certain, but there’s no scandal to implants, hair dye, fake tans . . . dime a dozen those things, but using them to build a false persona that co-opts another culture?

  56. Jannie says:

    My boyfriend who is native Spanish couldn’t tell she was faking it. She does speak perfect Spanish from Spain, not even from Latin America

  57. JRenee says:

    This just keeps getting weirder.
    Alec wasn’t aware probably and by the time he caught on, he didn’t care.
    She seems beyond thirsty and attention seeking. If this continues, Alec will probably divorce her. I’m guessing there’s a prenup.

  58. w says:

    Someone asked about Reddit. I saw this since I was curious to hear the “darker skin” video & the “Zara” video. Some people say they live in her building (see below).

    And to whomever disapproved of the article by Ale in People, I think it is really valuable how she wrote about what it is really like for immigrants & ethnic minorities, especially ethnic minority females. You don’t know what other people went through. You don’t know how family almost &/or did lose lives, or how they had hard times at their jobs & were discriminated against based on untrue stereotypes, including similar to those perpetuated by her. Also, you don’t know how it is that some are still so ignorant about international events that they don’t even know the situation then start more stereotypes about these situations.

    You don’t know either about the timing of when some of these things happened &, since it’s the holidays, how we are thinking about family that is no longer with us we will never have time to spend with, & how very little time we had with them ever. You don’t know how tragic situations under colonialism then everyday discrimination affected families.

    Also, it is a great article that brings up some though not nearly all of why stereotypes & appropriation are serious & harmful.

    Especially how it is even more so when they negate true immigrants’ & their children’s ability to speak & say what their & our experiences have actually been & use their connections to write this in the Hollywood Reporter & their untruth in the New York Times.


    PS The article I already posted about how people in Mallorca that know her family have never heard of her say her parents still are foreigners that have to register as foreigners in Spain so they are still apparently full U.S. citizens & did not ever become Spanish citizens.

    I hardly ever read celebrity info like this though I think it is wrong for them to gaslight everyone, including immigrants’ families to continue their lies.

  59. w says:

    From the same reddit thread, this is her dad’s statement. He spent three months in Spain as a senior in college & really liked it. Before that, he traveled there briefly for vacation. Then after retirement he moved there. It sounds like her brother went on a school trip in Mallorca then moved there after university age maybe around 22.