Jason Sudeikis and Olivia Wilde announced their split in mid-November. Almost immediately, a certain narrative was pushed in some of the American tabloids, and all of it sounded like it came from Olivia’s camp. The narrative was: Olivia and Jason had issues for about a year, they basically were in a trial separation for much of 2020, they grew apart and he was jealous of how much she worked and how much she had going on in her career. Suspiciously, Olivia used a lot of that same narrative when she split with her first husband, and I always felt like that guy (Tao Ruspoli) got sort of a raw deal from Olivia and her publicist. But since neither Tao nor Jason really pushed back on Olivia’s narrative, I thought maybe it was close enough to the truth and maybe they didn’t want to call her out publicly for being an a–hole (which she is, IMO).
Anyway, the pro-Olivia narrative was set and less than two months later, Olivia shows up at a wedding as Harry Styles’ plus-one. We learned that they fell for each other on the set of Don’t Worry Darling and they’ve been dating for maybe a month, maybe less, according to “sources.” But… what if we were right to be a little bit suspicious of the timeline? What if Jason Sudeikis is ready to push back on Olivia’s little storyline? From two separate People Magazine stories:
Jason Sudeikis hasn’t had an easy time with the split: Two months after PEOPLE confirmed the two stars had split earlier in 2020, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PEOPLE the actor, 45, “is absolutely heartbroken about the split. There is still a lot of love there, and he would like to have hope that maybe there’s a way for them to repair things. But what happens next remains to be seen.”
Sudeikis believes Harry Styles is the reason why Olivia broke it off: Jason Sudeikis believes Olivia Wilde’s new relationship with Harry Styles led to the end of their engagement, a source tells PEOPLE.
Olivia’s timeline might have been false! While an insider told PEOPLE in November that the two had split “at the beginning of the year” after seven years together, another source with knowledge of the situation refutes the claim, saying “she and Jason were very much together as recently as this fall. Jason feels that the timeline that Olivia and Harry would like people to believe—that she and Jason split ages ago, long before she became involved with Harry—is simply not accurate. She began filming [Don’t Worry Darling] in September, and by October, he began to get the impression that she wanted out. By November, they’d announced their split. But that’s how quickly it happened, and none of it happened until she began filming with Harry.”
Another insider – a pro-Olivia insider – refutes that though: Another insider, however, contests that timeline, telling PEOPLE, “Olivia and Jason were broken up as of early 2020. The recent news that she has moved on is no surprise. Olivia and Jason’s relationship continues to be focused on their children and co-parenting them.”
Again, this is People Magazine, not Us Weekly, not some random British tabloid. People Mag got the nod from someone in Jason’s camp. Suddenly Jason isn’t too pleased with Olivia’s self-centered little game. Jason must have had his suspicions last fall, but he decided to see how it would play out, and I bet he was pretty hurt when Olivia and Harry stepped out together. So, Harry Styles is a homewrecker! And Olivia is kind of an a–hole.
Jason’s camp went to Page Six as well, and again questioned Olivia’s timeline, saying that they were very much together throughout 2020, up until she began filming Don’t Worry Darling with Harry. A source tells the outlet: “Olivia and Jason were having issues, like any other couple, but Jason loves Olivia — he completely adores her, and that’s what makes this so sad. He’s always been committed to making their family work.” More proof that they were still together before October/November: they bought a house together in the UK, where Jason has been filming Ted Lasso. A source close Sudeikis also told Page Six: “People have tried to make out that Harry and Olivia have only been dating for the past few weeks, but that’s not right… Jason found out about Harry and pushed the conversation. Olivia then asked for a separation and news of the split was made public.” Man, this got messy in a hurry.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid.
Oh man, my heart hurts for him. I’m glad he’s pushing back. Imagine the insult to injury seeing the narrative she put out there. Literally just dismissing him and erasing months of their history to justify her jumpoff.
I hope he’s able to let go of the idea of getting back together with her. I could see her, post split from Harry, trying to run back to him. Sigh.
She should not get a pass for this !!!
Yes, I feel for him too. Sounds like he still loves her and adores her. I really liked them together. Sad.
There were also lots of pap pics of Olivia and Jason from the past month or so embracing. It appeared that they were still close and possibly working things out..looks manipulative now.
Recent pap photos of them were all taken on the street during child handoff. That is not “working things out”.
Well, I don’t feel for him and don’t care either if I’m crucified for stating this: he married above his league and she married below her station. Jason should feel grateful she agreed to this union and to start a family with him in the first place. I wish Olivia the best in her new relationship. It was about time this woman learned to care for her true interests.
People are not things. There are no leagues. Stop this incelish rhetoric.
Hi Madelaine, I take it you are extremely childish?
woahhh when they first got together he was the major player in the relationship. Olivia was coming off House and I honestly haven’t found her memorable in anything else. Her IMDB pretty much confirms that for me. I’m glad she’s doing well as a director now, but let’s not pretend like she was a big catch. She was another run of the mill actress.
And this talking of marrying in your league is completely ludicrous. You have no clue who people are in relationships, what they are bringing to the table (good and bad) until you are with them.
They never married.
Omg what an awful thing to say. I am lost for words here.
This is gross, classist, and insulting to both of them.
As much as people aren’t things, there is something to be said about this business of “stations” and it’s impact on the success of a relationship. While the way Madeleine phrased it was uncouth let’s not pretend our society isn’t classist and those issues don’t come to play.
The reason why marriages and other relationships fail is because of these very issues. Call it what you want—“station”, “class”, etc. Ideally we’d like to just fall in love with whomever with no regard to class but it is an issue of contention. How many couples end up experiencing tension due to one partner having or coming from more wealth or being far more physically attractive, etc.
Not saying it’s impossible for people to overcome odds considering different backgrounds but it would be naive to act differences don’t present a challenge for longterm success.
You are not the arbiter of who people should marry, and we don’t live in a medieval caste system. Consider yourself crucified.
“Below her station?” How regressive and garbage. Why are you trying to emulate an Austen villain???
UM. Jason is a major hottie but that’s besides the point. This comment sucks.
Lol Olivia was a B-list actress, at best, before her much more successful turn as a director happened. She’s beautiful, but not anymore the majority of actresses. I don’t know much about Jason, but I wouldn’t say she has so much on him that she is better then him.
I think some one just got done watching Bridgerton.
@Delilah: Though you don’t share my views, I’m grateful you actually did take the time to understand, then rephrase extensively and elaborate intelligently on the idea I wasn’t able to express with as much clarity and insight as you do. As for the other comments, I consider them as incentives to reflect more on my approach on such delicate matters.
Obviously her best interests is herself and if stations is what you believe in then her first marriage would not have happened as she married an aristocrat and she is a lowly American,
Lol, Olivia was perfectly within Jason’s station. She may be very pretty, but until recently with switch to directing, her career otherwise was flailing. The last time Hollywood wanted to give her a big push was 10 years ago. Jason, on the other hand, has had a much more successful television and movie career compared to Olivia.
If we are falling into this myopic mindset of stations, Olivia will find out the hard way that she isn’t within Harry’s station.
Madeline – Olivia and her 16-head need to stfu! She’s not above him.
@ Madelaine—people shouldn’t just shut ppl down because they disagree. It’s part of why we are in the social-political mess we’re in: ppl’s inability to have a successful dialogue b/c they are too close-minded, PC and/or overly sensitive.
You could have gotten hung up on my accidental misspelling of your name—for which I apologize—but instead you took the high road and focused on the message, for example, which means you yourself aren’t too fragile. Lol.
Ppl should just develop thicker skins and not allow semantics to overshadow messages. There is much diversity in how we express ourselves. Thanks for the props and thank you making this conversation more well-rounded and interesting.
Huh? Jason Sudeikis is a successful actor and comedian, he’s nice-looking, he adores/adored her, and she chose him! I mean he’s no Adonis, but so what? It’s not all about looks nor should it be. And they have a family. I understand relationships change and people fall out of love, but it does sound like she manipulated the timeline and quite possible betrayed his trust. That’s not cool, especially when there are kids involved.
On a petty note (yes I am petty too), I don’t care for her as a blonde. Her natural dark hair looks much better IMO.
I’m confused by that entirely — so it’s ok to screw around on your partner as long as you are the better looking or more wealthy partner?
So if you believe that AND you expect fidelity in a relationship — do you only date people less attractive with less money than yourself?
@ Wendy. Absolutely never okay to cheat. I firmly believe once you make a commitment to a partner be s/he better or worse, to honor that commitment.
What you’re missing is how external factors matter. The opportunities to stray will be more replete for the more attractive partner—in looks or status.
That is a reality. Like it or not. Especially in Hollyweird.
@ Madeleine, it’s striking that you knew what you were going to say was offensive, but you said it anyway? Rightly so you should be blasted for this as positioning this relationship in a caste type system.
Personally, I have always liked him. He seems to be a decent fellow with a quick wit on screen. As for her, I cannot recall anything she has been in.
Yeah, she’s so above his league huh? He’s disposable and deserves to be trampled over according to you? Bless your heart.
I remember when they started dating, she talked about how she didn’t think she was beautiful enough, good enough for him, etc. So it seems from her perspective, he was out of her league.
Olivia and Jason never married. They had a very long engagement. Why didn’t they get married? They have two gorgeous children together.
I wonder if Jason refused to marry Olivia and sweet Harry is her f*ck you revenge.
I had a long engagement (7 years) and finally I jumped off too. Then I married my childhood sweetheart after a short engagement. He Wanted to marry me during a pandemic, and arranged everything. It was just the 2 of us, a witness and a minister, at the minister’s log cabin home.
If a man truly wants to marry you, he will. Go Olivia!
My feeling is Madeleine is a close connection to Olivia, Olivia herself. Why would someone say something like this.
@Bibi: Your assumption is laughable. Madeleine might be a close connection to that celebrity. The fact is I am Madelaine, a Celebitchy reader from France. So please, don’t be such a conspirationist.
@Madelaine ah you are french, so makes sense, most of you are snobs. You also support guys like Trump, right? I’m glad I don’t have people like you in my life.
@Eva: I speak for myself only, not on behalf on the entire French nation against whom you seem to foster quite a number of baseless stereotypical preconceptions. If you’re so knowledgeable, then all the power to you. Anyways I am glad I’ve been able to read comments here that focus on developing critical thinking and go beyond simplistic bigoted characterizations of others.
I loved her in ‘Butter’. That’s it, all I’ve got.
@ Delilah, is see what you are saying that in some circumstances, outside influences can play into the success/failure of a marriage, but it is not the main reason marriages fail. Most failures comes from lack of communication, addiction, parenting styles, abuse, adultery, growing apart or finances. Most successes are keeping an attitude of staying together, working things through, seeking therapy if needed and truly being in love to the point that you couldn’t imagine your life without that person. So it possible in some very small percentages of marriage but that is not the majority.
So are you guys gonna give Harry Styles the Lily James treatment ?
They only things I said about Lily is that she needs to stop this attraction to men who look like feet…and that as a young woman she needs to be aware of what will happen if she becomes known as a homewrecker. Neither of these apply to Harry. Chris Evans homewrecked Jenny Slate’s marriage and skated. That’s the way it is. I don’t judge them because I know for a fact that if I were a famous actor, and married to Chris Evans I would still be cheating with Alexander Skarsgard LOL. But I would be smart enough to at least attempt to avoid the gender-based backlash by being, you know, discreet.
A woman should behave in such a way that she avoids encountering misogyny? Good luck with that.
Lmao @ men who look like feet!!
Lily flaunted hers. And then shut right down and was left in the cold when it was exposed while he went back to his wife.
Harry didn’t flaunt, but for whatever reason did go along with Olivia to keep everything private before scheduling loved up pap shots.
The press have lily a raw deal also and Harry is skating by. But yeah, Harry probably knew she was still engaged as she still wore her ring in not so long ago pap shots and was acting like a couple with Jason. He deserves half blame. Just as I said with lily.
But harry and Olivia are definitely flaunting their relationship now. They are papped everyday. It disguting people aren’t going at him the way they went after Lily Jamas.
The ring wouldn’t come off until the separation was announced publicly if they were still sorting out the separation and weren’t ready to announce.
Harry and Olivia weren’t out in public until after her separation was announced. Dominic West and his wife have not separated. Totally different situations.
Angel
Which is why the press should also not give them a pass. It’s good Jason is pushing back or else this would be fine to people.
The separation was announced in mid November. The pap photos of Olivia and Harry are from early January, not even close to the same thing.
I don’t care for the “home wrecker” story the press was pushing about Lily either, but her behavior was careless and thoughtless. Certainly not as bad as the guys who were cheating on their spouses (rather openly, in West’s case), but getting involved with a man who is married with young children is potentially messing with their emotional well-being and is just uncool in general. She’s young, she’s been flying high in her career and is a press darling, and she flew too close to the sun and got burned. I imagine she has learned her lesson.
He still a home wrecker. And Dominic West and his wife are still together unlike Olivia and Jason.
I’m not buying Jason’s timeline so to my mind this wasn’t home wrecking. By his own account they were having a hard time but he *thinks* they were still together. I think this is a case of exes who kept hooking up for abit and then she found her rebound dude. There’s something to be said about people engaged for that long and never married, doesn’t sound like there was much of a home to wreck.
You know whose fault this really is, right? Shia Labeouf.
😂😂😂
I swear I laughed out loud, thank you
I love Ted Lasso, and have been watching a whole bunch of interviews with Jason filmed around the time of the premiere, which was August 14th. The way he spoke about her in them, I am 1000% convinced they were together then. I don’t buy what Olivia’s team is trying to sell.
Unless she had initiated a quiet breakup and he was trying to get her back. Then all the public love makes sense. Also, uxoriousness is good for business if you are in his position.
This is her M.O.
I mean…..I stopped liking her after what she was saying about her 1st husband.
She was horrible to that guy! Remember when they were living on the bus and she kept saying he was royalty (I think a duke) and that she was a duchess of countess or whatever? I still remember that break up being really sketchy and her leaving him for Jason, right?
She and Jason met at an SNL wrap party in May 2011. she filed for divorce earlier that year.
Thank you Cava for the clarification!
Tao is an Italian prince.
No, she and Jason werent linked until a year after her divorce. She was however linked to a few other guys like JT and Bradley Cooper in the months after her divorce. She got married at 18 so it always just came off to me as her wanting to date around like she didnt do properly in her teen years/early 20s and then she met Jason.
Olivia and husband claim he is an Italian “prince.” However, those titles no longer exist in Italy and have no legal status — YOU could call yourself an Italian prince and it would have the exact same effect: none whatsoever.
Also, even when Italy did recognize titles, illegitimate children did not inherit titles. So her husband would have NEVER been a prince, even if those titles still exist, which they don’t.
The only thing worse that actual aristocrats giving themselves airs is fake aristos trying to do the same.
Just literlly was writing a post about it. she was awful to her 1st husband post divorce and since then I really always thought something is off with her. Never got the hype
I agree. This is her M.O. which is the sign of a narcissist that can’t deal with their own behavior so lashes out on their former partners. She humiliated her former partner by saying how her vagina was so sad until she met Jason and they would have marathon sex. Now she can have a 5k run with a boy instead of a man.
I’m firmly not in olivia’s camp. She seems to need jump offs and to justify her poor way of ending relationships by lies and belittling her partner in some way.
All those little public acts leading up to this after the break up article came out made it seem like either Jason was cool With the separation or he was still in the dark and in love. I guess we know now.
Something nice… great start to her career in directing.
I actually think she probably started a “conscious uncoupling” with Sudeikis way before DWD started filming but didn’t try to split assets and domiciles for a while because of the pandemic and Sudeikis is capitalizing on the fact that there were no public actions that made the split obvious. Because in “conscious uncoupling” you do all the public stuff last. I think she is way too smart and Harry is way too risk averse for the timeline Sudeikis is putting out there. And she has said repeatedly they split up before that. Sudeikis probably thought that as long as nothing was public, they might get back together (especially if they had been having problems for awhile) and the photos of her and Styles finally made it clear to him she wasn’t coming back. His whole “ I still want her back” stance is a ploy. The photo of her in a tee shirt that says “The future is female ejaculation” that is on her IG from 10 days after the announcement of the split should have clued him in though.
Also, it isn’t clear what Harry would/would not know about their split- Sudeikis is not in the film (he was in Booksmart) and wouldn’t have been on set and he’s relying entirely on her.
Well it is true you should never take the jilted person’s version of events as fact. Good points. Men have definitely lied about me.
Ditto🙋🏻♀️!!
This. Men are messy. And especially in a case where the woman is moving on with someone younger and hotter and with a higher profile.
No, but you shouldn’t take the jilter’s version as fact either. She know she would look bad if she handled it poorly. I aim not saying she did, I have no idea, but I wouldn’t put it past her to put out a bogus version of events any more than I would put it past him.
That’s one interpretation, but there’s so much documented behavior from interviews and photos that her timeline doesn’t hold up.
And how her or camp let out that 1st break up article was definitely promoting her and not being very kind to him.
If she just wanted a split it could have been done with some decency. This just feels too much like her last break up.
I know people can change and blah blah but at the end of the day her past behaviour is so sketchy that I cannot even be surprised by this. Like there is no way Sudeikis didn’t know her past messy break up AND most importantly the way she talked about him after that. He should have seen this coming.
This is what people like Olivia do. They discard you without a care for your feelings when they see someone new. I have no doubt same is gonna happen with Harry.
Interviews don’t count if they haven’t publicly announced a breakup – especially if they are with the party who does not want said breakup. There is all of one photo of him on her IG with him, on Father’s Day. It says they got to make a set visit for a Star Wars project and “Dad’s Rule!”; not “I love you”, not “you’re the best dad!”. He doesn’t have an IG account.
Harry has been the reason for multiple break ups, including one marriage that was a huge story in the UK. So I’m not going to pretend this is somehow outside of Harry’s playbook.
From that story (he was 17, the woman was 31)
“But they are said to have encountered difficulties and were leading separate lives at the time of the affair.”
I’d go one further and say that there were some fundamental flaws that were always showstoppers–Jason and Olivia were engaged for years, very specifically engaged as opposed to settled non-married life partners, and that wedding didn’t materialize, after years, two kids etc. Something was not right. I don’t regard this new relash as a home wrecking but that sad thing when a secretly limping partnership is publicly over by one the of parties taking up with someone else. I too think that they were split for a while but Jason was reading it differently.
The only real revelation here for me is that it seems like Jason was more into things and he’s now really hurting. There is appreciable space between realizing that you and your partner aren’t going to work out long term and then the shock of seeing them out and attached to someone else.
+1
I agree, they were engaged for three years and had two children. If you can’t bother to get married in all that time then something is holding you back. Maybe she wanted to get married and he always pushed back and she was sick of it and finally left? No one will ever really know but I remember when the story came out about them splitting and no one seemed surprised precisely because of the stupid long engagement and a lot of people were claiming they thought she was more into him then he was. So all of this poor Jason narrative is confusing to me.
I came to say the same thing. A forever engagement with no marriage plans is usually a sign that one or both parties aren’t interested in the long term commitment.
I think this is a bit like the Ross/Rachel WE WERE ON A BREAK!!!! Olivia emotionally checked out and thought she’d communicated it. They work apart so in her mind they’re not really together and can date other people. Jason thinks they’re taking time apart — but are monogamous and it’s nothing as serious as a true separation.
Smart take!
Oh please. I have been engaged for over 8 years (and together for over 13) and still don’t have any wedding plans. I am fully committed to my fiance and he is committed to me. He was married before and I haven’t been. We will get married eventually but are obviously, in no rush as we are as good as married, seeing as we have a house, two dogs and two cats that we love. Sometimes, people just aren’t into rushing into marriage. Different strokes for different folks.
That’s how this sounds to me too.
I’m sick of Olivia and Harry already. It’s been what, a week?
Is this the new Benarmas?? (the necklace swapping is so cringe, I mean Harry Styles’ wardrobe is great, but how old are we, 15?)
Wow.
Pretty sure she left once she realized that wedding was never happening. It seems super convenient to blame the next dude months after you announce your breakup.
Prior to the Harry thing breaking everyone was like well yeah Hollywood guys tend to get antsy when the woman starts directing and has the potential to be more powerful and successful. Also, again ten years two kids no vows but Olivia is a total cheater and it’s all her fault. Right….sure Jan.
I totally agree. I’ve witnessed situations where one partner (usually a man) implies he’ll be ready for marriage/ and or kids in the nearby future. Then he always has a reason why it’s not yet time to marry. Yet he never takes action to resolve the issue ie saving up for a venue, agreeing to adjust his standards on a specific expensive topic like private school etc…
Somehow he’s totally flabbergasted when the years of waiting has exhausted her patience. And he plays the martyr/victim when she seeks what she always said she wanted.
How do we know it was Jason that didn’t want to walk down the aisle?
Commenters definitely seem to have a very traditional outlook on marriage for a so-called feminist site.
@baela @wtf maybe Olivia didn’t want to get married. I’m just disinclined to take Jason’s narrative at face value because we live in a patriarchy. Straight men often decide to slut shame former lovers with public accusations of cheating. And they do so without providing actual evidence of the cheating. It’s a form of a petty revenge because it damages a womxn’s reputation. And there’s very few channels for her to completely restore her reputation.
I kinda don’t even care if she cheated. Because if she did then he can process that in therapy. Instead of weaponising it to salvage his reputation. There’s countless other ways to push back against Olivia Wilde’s media narrative that don’t feed into the virgin/ whore dichotomy.
@MarcelMarcel
In what way is this related to the virgin/whore dichotomy? That is a point of view where women cease to have any value when they engage in sexual behavior outside of marriage. She had two kids with Jason before marriage and certainly had sex before then. A man can be hurt that they were lied to and cheated on and want to get their side of the story out without it being some dark patriarchal conspiracy to slut shame. Would you tell a female celebrity to shut up and “process it in therapy” if they said they were cheated on?
@evenstar I don’t think it’s some conspiracy. And I do hold the same perspective when it comes to womxn. There are so many cases where white womxn abuse their (relative) power & privilege to gain better PR in contentious situations ie. the way Miley proved Nicki Minaji’s point about her unchecked privilege by publicly attacking Nicki; instead of reflecting on her acts of cultural approbation. I also know people contain multitudes. I don’t need to completely understand of all their life choices to connect with their art.
I find it strange that Jason is slut shaming the mother of his children by insinuating she’s a cheater without providing actual evidence. And it feels like power play given that Olivia is now with another celebrity. Would have he done this smearing if she took up with the milkman or a dull lawyer?
@MarcelMarcel
I mean, what evidence does someone need to give to prove they were cheated on? Leaked messaging history? This is the same woman who said her first husband made her vagina “die” and a bunch of other unnecessary, cruel things. I’m not shedding any tears for her being badmouthed by her ex.
I don’t think we can know who didn’t want to put a ring on it. Maybe neither of them did? But they were a couple. They had children. Just because they didn’t make it official doesn’t mean they were not very much partners in life.
Yeah they were one of those forever engaged couples. I can’t blame her for wanting to leave a relationship that was stalled and going no where. It kinda sounds like it was a slow breakup, probably because they had kids and that makes everything more emotionally complex. I don’t know why we are coming down hard on her.
I agree with you. There had been talk for a while about how their relationship seemed to be treading water, and a lot of speculation that her higher profile and respect for her directorial career had created tension–a scenario that happens all the freaking time with insecure men, so seems plenty plausible to me.
As to why we’re coming down hard on her, I assume that’s just plain old misogyny.
This is where I’m at. He thought he could slow walk through the engagement without ever having to marry, and once she had kids that she wasn’t going to leave and even if she did, who would want a mother of two?
Men are always blindsided by the discontent they’ve chosen to ignore for their own convenience.
+1
Also slow-walked the separation.
How do you know he was the one who didn’t want to get married? Your last sentence in particular seems very bitter and that you’re projecting a bit.
Winner winner chicken dinner!
Don’t know about that – read somewhere that they decided together that they did not want to get married due to previous messy divorces/break-ups. I don’t think a nine-year engagement has anything to do with slow-walking the wedding, cold feet, or lack of commitment on either partner’s side (though why it’s the man getting the blame here, I don’t know) – it’s quite possible that they both felt, at one point, that the engagement signified that they were committed to each other and that, with kids in the mix as well, that was enough to show each other that they were in it for the long haul.
Thank you! As I stated earlier, I have been engaged for over 8 years and neither of us is in a rush to get married. And I would say that I am the one that is in less of a rush to get married than him. I am not opposed to it by any means. It’s just not a priority for me (or him) and I am in my very late 40s and have never been married.
Look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. They have been together for decades and no wedding ring.
I don’t know. Why didn’t they marry is there was so much love? He seems so smarmy to me. They were only engaged. Not married. It didn’t work out for her. She left. Sounds typical. So much angst over this.
What a weird take. How do you know it’s Jason’s fault they weren’t married? He was the one who proposed a year in. Olivia has also said she believe relationships are like chapters and really should only last 7 years.
This is not the first time Harry has broken up a relationship. He’s done this three other times, one in which was a huge media story back in the UK. Harry and Olivia clearly knew what they were doing was wrong, which is why we received those weird pap pics to get ahead of the narrative.
From that story (he was 17, the woman was 31)
“But they are said to have encountered difficulties and were leading separate lives at the time of the affair.”
I’m not sure why you keep repeating the same thing to me. Yes, he was 17 but he has since done two more times not counting Olivia. The husband of that DJ blasted Harry, rightfully so. All I’m saying is that he’s clearly not an innocent sunflower that his fans are trying to portray. Olivia is shady as hell, and has said some ridiculous stuff about past relationships.
Ps I’m Reddish -I couldn’t remember what my name was on this site and I had deleted it (sorry about that) I knew it had something to do with Red!
@Redder
Sorry, but how was the husband “rightfully so” blasting a 17 year old boy and blaming him for the breakup of his failing marriage? She was a 31 year old adult women and obviously they had a history of troubles, but sure, publicly blame and shame a minor in the British tabloids about this. I wouldn’t even be surprised if how it all played out back then fucked him up for the future.
Would you say the same if the genders were reversed? If a 31 year old men stepped out of his marriage with a 17 year old girl and then everyone would blame the girl?
Reddish, maybe she keeps posting that reply to you because you keep posting the identical comment in different places on this thread? Just a guess.
Anyway, it’s clear you’ve got an axe to grind about Harry Styles, but trying to blame him as a 17yo for “home wrecking” a 31yo who began a romantic relationship with him despite him being underage is simply gross. Let’s stick to their adult lives here.
As someone who married and divorced young, like Olivia, the last thing I wanted to do was marry again. My now husband waited 20 years for me to say yes, marriage just wasn’t a “goal” for me.
You never know why a couple doesn’t marry, and assuming it’s always the man’s fault is pretty ridiculous.
A little OT, but Jill Biden had a marriage under her belt when she met Joe, then a widower with two sons. She married very young, to a high school sweetheart I think (he was a football hero), and it just didn’t work out. So he proposed to her five times before she finally said yes. It’s not always the man who doesn’t want to marry. And apparently the kids had nothing to do with her hesitance. She has four younger sisters and took to the role of quasi stepmother very easily and happily. I imagine it was more reluctance to commit again, at least until she was completely sure.
Talking about ending an engagement as if it’s the same as ending a marriage … This may be at the heart of it, they’re just not the same, kids or no kids, house or no house. Unfortunately the kids themselves won’t know or understand the difference.
Welllll….I agree but only when there are no kids. Once children are in the mix, yeah, it’s the same. Sorry.
That’s why I said the kids won’t know the difference.
If you have children and a household together, you are married for all practical purposes. Whether or not Olivia and Jason bothered to get the piece of paper will be irrelevant to their kids.
That’s how I see it. I got married at 26 and had my first of two kids at 28. My husband and I say that in some ways you’re not really married until you have kids. Of course you ARE, but the level of commitment and partnership can really kick into overdrive once the strength of your relationship has such a strong impact on little beings for whom you are responsible.
I think these are really hard generalizations to make and are almost entirely dependent on the personalities involved. My level of commitment and partnership pretty much evaporated once we had kids, and I ended up divorced with a 3 and 1 year old, and I often look back on the pre kids married years as our ideal of partnership. We just couldn’t sustain it through the change of starting a family. I actually know a lot of people where having kids just changes the course of things. It’s sad yes, but I’d be careful making the assertion that introducing children solidifies the commitment.
And if we’re going to bring up their exes, don’t forget Jason’s first wife Kay Cannon, who he cheated on and left as soon as the famous pretty women started recognizing him from SNL. Allegedly Kay’s fellow writers on 30 Rock , which included several of Jason’s friends and former co-workers such as Tina Fey, all took Kay’s side.
I think Kay Cannon has a quote about watching Sudeikis read a book about picking up women, in front of her, while they were married, “for research” and how she should have realized that was a sign. Am trying to find it.
Here’s the tweet:
https://twitter.com/kaykaycannon/status/1059202633531977733?s=21
Someone replied that maybe he was just trying to keep up with pop culture and she responded “(we were married)”. Jason is the only person she used to be married to because she’s still with her second husband.
I’m surprised to see so many people taking his side. I thought it was common knowledge that he’s a prick.
Oh I didn’t know that. Well, there are no angels in Hollywood right? It’s probably a mistake to ever judge them from the outside.
Maybe they’re both jerks…..
This. There are some folks ready to cut Olivia up on this site for comments made about her ex husband somehow relating to her definitely being the cheater in this circumstance – totally forgetting that Sudekis is a known cheating gross mess. Talking shit about an ex is not the same as hooking up with women in front of your wife and gaslighting her about it.
Per usually I’m team no one but the kids but is seems highly likely that they slow walked a breakup b/c COVID, he though it was temporary and he could get her back, she never wanted that and now he’s but hurt.
I haven’t heard any of that, he’s been serially cheating?
That puts a different spin on things for sure
Yeah Jason is not exactly an angel. I always thought he and Olivia seemed like such different people also.
I kinda feel how I felt about Megan Fox here. If a woman wants to leave a relationship, she gets to! Men don’t own women. Regardless of whether or not they were married, or had kids, or the man didn’t want her to go. She gets to go and live her own life and be responsible for herself. I don’t like this idea that she had some moral obligation to stay with a man she didn’t want to be with.
I agree that she has the right to move on, but I also wouldn’t blame Jason for calling her out for lying about when they broke up *If that is indeed what happened*. It’s the lie, not the fact that she wanted to leave the relationship, that is problematic.
I don’t think anyone on here is saying that Olivia should have stayed with Jason if she didn’t want to. What a weird leap. Jason’s side of the story isn’t that hey! She dumped me and I’m pissed, its that hey! I thought we were still together but she was hooking up with Harry on set. You don’t get a free pass to cheat, especially if you have kids. You may not believe Jason’s side, but the evidence is backing him. She was still posting intimate photos of them in bed together over the summer. She was wearing her engagement ring until November. There are pap pictures of her kissing his neck from November.
Kay Cannon such a beautiful smart woman. Also i thought Olivia was physically reminding her. The man has his type he
Maybe I’m remembering this differently: but i dont recall the narrative of Olivia’s first divorce being about her husband being jealous. It seemed to mostly be about her getting married too young at only 18 to a man a decade older and then growing up and growing apart and then it sort of morphed into this weird “Olivia wants to sow her wild oats” narrative where she was linked to like every A-list dude near her age range until she met Jason who liberated her vagina. (The last part is not even hyperbole; for like the first year they were together they couldn’t stop talking about how great their sex was. It was weird)
As someone said above Harry is pretty risk averse. He used to have a reputation as a womanizer when he was in 1D but that has pretty much died since he went solo to the point i can only think of 2 other women he’s been credibly linked to: Kendall and Camille and he was never this public with them. So i have a hard time believing he would finally choose to go public with a woman only to have been a homewrecker of her marriage. It would really damage his kind sunflower child image he’s built up over the last few years and the wedding they went to was his manager’s, who i doubt would egg him on to hurt his image like that.
My best guess here is that given the fact that theyve been engaged for half a decade and still never maaried Olivia and Jason’s relationship was on life support at the beginning of 2020 and that he might’ve held out some hope it would work but she was checked out and she chose to announce the separation in November because she had started seeing Harry and wanted to save their reputations by having it out there that she and Jason were over before the public found out they were dating. Because think about it: if Jason knew she cheated 2 minths ago why did it take him so long to push back on the original narrative? Also
Harry is not risk adverse though. Camille was dating someone when he started hooking up with her. It just wasn’t all over the news because she’s not a big celebrity, but she had a bf at the time. He hooked up with a married DJ. That husband went on radio shows blasting Harry on the UK. The fact that he hired paparazzi should show you they were trying to get ahead of the cheating narrative. Why else would we have pictures? If Olivia was innocent, they could have easily kept this under wrap for awhile, until at least the movie was done filming. There are multiple interviews, quotes, and instagram pictures from both Jason and Olivia that suggest the breakup was not earlier this year. Olivia was wearing her engagement ring until November. I feel like people like Harry a lot, so they refuse to believe he could do this, but this is not something he hasn’t done before.
You are talking about Camille and Devandra Barnhart? What makes you think there was overlap? People break up all the time because they meet someone else. Women are not property of their romantic partners and former romantic partners.
Re pap pictures – literally anyone can sell photos to Backgrid and paps are up in Santa Barbara and Montecito to get Ellen DeGeneres photos. All it takes is one person to tweet they saw Olivia and Harry somewhere for the paps to go looking for them.
Why should they hide? Her separation was announced six weeks before that. Maybe they chose how and when the information would get out knowing that Sudeikis was not accepting the situation?
ETA- if she was trying to do “conscious uncoupling” from Sudeikis, she would have left her ring on until they announced the split.
“ People break up all the time because they meet someone else. Women are not property of their romantic partners and former romantic partners.”
What? It’s called cheating when you’re still with someone and you hook up with someone else.
And the wedding photos and the ones from his house were all in private property, meaning there’s no way paparazzi or fans could get in to take pictures unless invited.
They should have hid it because her separation was six weeks ago, and they’ve clearly been dating/hooking up for a bit. So if Jason’s story is to be believed, there is some overlap. Harry has always said he values privacy especially in the beginning stages of a relationship, so yes this looks odd. Especially since I can look at evidence that Olivias story of timing does not add up.
Same situation with Georgia Fowler. She broke up with her boyfriend one week before she went to romantic weekend with Styles. There is no way they haven’t been already hooking up while she was still in relationship.
Ugh you know nothing about paps then. Paps can 95% of the time get wherever the need to be. Also check out the zoom function on their cameras.
Leaving someone for someone else, is not cheating.
It’s funny how people are so convinced that there was cheating involved, as if they’d been right there when the alleged hooking up happened. People meet new people all the time and sometimes they fall for them and break things off cleanly before anything happens, without cheating.
And sometimes they even break things off, before they meet a new person, but then things happen quickly. Those are models and celebrities, they probably have 5 new suitors the second they are single. It’s not like they have to scroll through online dating websites for weeks in order to find someone, who’s interested in them, like normal people.
She strikes me as a person who get bored easily, but instead of dealing with that she’s externalized it.
So her prince made her vagina die, Sudeikis and her had problems so she exited and she’s now dating a decade younger man who she directed.
I’d also suspect that almost all her relationships have overlap, emotionally or otherwise.
Like her, am slightly jealous of her Harry situation even, but damn this is messy and not good.
Men do this all the time and nobody discusses “their narrative”….. stop criticizing a woman for stuff that men are never ever held accountable for.
I mean, I would pick Harry Styles over Jason Sudeikis too if I got to select between them. Call me a monster if you must! 😂
OMG. I was not aware all three of them cheated in their past relationships. That’s f’d up. I’m really disappointed to hear Jason cheated on his first wife. That must have been really hard for her.
So, Harry Styles is straight? Bisexual? To be honest, I always thought he was gay- long before the Vogue cover. He’s very beautiful.
Weird that you mention the vogue cover like it’s an example of ‘gayness’. Quite the stereotype! He doesn’t label his sexuality.
I don’t have a clue about his sexuality, but I did assume that this is a “showmance” to drum up interest in their upcoming project. I would’ve never guessed there would be so much drama around it!
He never labelled his sexuality and once said in an interview “who cares”, but publicly he has only dated women so far, often of a similar type and in general seems to go for ladies, who are a few years older than him.
I think the notion of his sexual ambiguity is mostly rooted in his flamboyant fashion.
I think I am the only one here who doesn’t get Harry Styles appeal. I find him asexual and so unappealing.
you’re not the only one.
@Nikki(49) thanks for keeping me company! We should create some club 🤣
Yeah, I don’t get it either. Like Timothee Chalamet. Boys, not men.
I don’t see it either but then he’s way too young for me.
Same!!
I think he was pretty sexy when he still had his long hair (in 2015 or 2016-ish). But he lost a bit of his spark since then for me. Maybe it’s all the Gucci stuff he always wears that I’m not into. Still find him handsome and charming (so maybe he’s still sexy in person), but I agree about his more asexual vibe these days.
seriously, but imo it boils down to marriage. they weren’t married so it’s not really cheating..
That’s not how it works. Cheating is stepping out on a partner you made a commitment/promise to stay exclusive with. Marriage has nothing to do with it. Besides, they were together many years and had two children. In many ways they were married.
Sounds like olivia assumed jason would be quiet about her massaging the truth regarding the timeline of their breakup just like her ex-husband was but she forgot she and Jason seemed to be two peas in a pod: extra with quotes to the press, his ex wife catching him reading the game while they were married.
Thought Jason Sudekis had been stepping out on her. Also don’t buy a serious romantic relationship between Olivia and Harry. Fling, maybe. Friendship, definitely. As far as being a bearding thing, possibly, but who really cares – or should care – about anybody’s gender or sexuality nowadays? That said, I hate seeing little kids involved in any of it.
Damn give the bearding thing a rest. Harry legit dates women.
I just don’t find Jason attractive at all. It’s a sad situation and he’s right to be hurt. That said, you’re allowed to leave a relationship anytime you want.
Sure, but cheating’s not okay.
People can be good, admirable people in some respects and absolutely shitty partners to their significant others. Her being a cheater, or him being a cheater, doesn’t make either of them garbage people. Just garbage partners.
There shouldn’t be a cancel culture over it, infidelity isn’t the same as being a sexual predator or abuser.
This isn’t the first relationship Styles wrecked. His previous girlfriend Camille Rowe left her boyfriend of two years for him. He is all about that ‘Treat people with kindness’ bullshit, but he’s probably one of those self-obsessed guys who had to get every woman they desire at any cost. I’m not defending Olivia, but I can imagine that after a 7 years long relationship, a passion kind of fizzled out and her and Jason’s relationship struggled a bit. Perfect opportunity for Styles and his macho ways.
“Styles and his macho ways??” LOL. Okay.
Seems like running to the press and trying to paint your ex, the mother of the young children you’re co-parenting together, as a cheater is pretty sh!tty. Maybe Olivia was attracted to Harry, and it’s what spurred her to finally pull the plug on her relationship. But if so, Harry was just the spark to get out of something she already wanted out of. And what is Jason’s goal with these pieces in the press. To get revenge while painting himself as a victim . . . and then what?
Holy crap, some of y’alls mental gymnastics to defend cheating is unreal.
Seriously. This is messy and unnecessary and gross. And everyone is just taking his word as gospel. No thank you.
So is Harry Styles going to be called out as a home wrecker or is that title just for women and not men?
Hate to be that person but he comes across as a whiny sad sack who just realized what he lost. I can’t tell the difference between her and Olivia Munn, but did she really just decide to throw it all away because of Harry Styles, not that I’d blame her if she did? Seriously doubt that. So they were engaged for over 5 years, have two children together, yet didn’t seem any closer to getting to that altar or city hall, and didn’t seem like they were that interested in it. Obviously if you have all that and can’t complete the deal, you’re not THEE ONE. It’s sad. Whatever, seems like they’d run their course and Harry is a chew toy, or consolation prize. Mr. Right Now, not Mr. Right. What Jason is doing is misogynistic and petty.
I agree.
ITA. Harry is just a jumping off. I just know these types of men. They disappoint you year after year, you tell them a million times what to change, give them a hundred chances, and then when you finally leave it’s “out of nowhere” and you’re painted as a “whore.”
There’s no problem if they didn’t want to get married but I personally don’t see the point of getting engaged in that case either. Just live together and do you.
All three of them are incredibly boring tbh.
The mental gymnastics of people trying to justify slating Olivia Wilde the same way they slated Lily James are predictable.
Of course, cheating is wrong and facilitating cheating is almost as wrong but Lily James received a lot more flak than even the reptilian Dominic West.
Switch the genders and now we have Olivia Wilde, who allegedly cheated on her fiancé (based on his word alone) receiving much more flak than Harry Styles, “the other man”.
So predictable.
The benchmark for men is set so low for that the mediocrity continues to get praised. Women on the other hand have to be Angel Saints of the Highest Order.
Also this is literally a gender reverse of the Brangelina triangle and as per the woman/women are getting way more flack than the men. Thus proving its not about what you do but about whether or not you’re mediocre white man.
West received a lot of flak for cheating. Lily just garnered more attention because in many ways she more famous. He is a successful actor, but she is a movie starlet. She was in a couple of blockbusters, Cinderella and Mama Mia II (neither of which I liked, but I digress), and is on a lot of magazine covers. She’s younger and shinier. I think that was why people were flapping their jaws about her more. Also, the UK Press just sucks in general. They are always thrilled to go after people in a nasty, undeserved way. It sells.
I just don’t think it’s been established that Olivia and Harry had an affair.
There’s no way to deem this an affair. It’s just a messy ending to a relationship that sounds like it was going nowhere. There’s no attempt at an affair, she’d been working with Harry for a handful of weeks when the break up was announced. No one’s in the wrong and no one’s a honewrecker, sometimes things just don’t work out. Besides you can’t ‘homewreck’ a happy home that’s functioning as it should. It’s a stupid concept.
I agree. Think ppl want to jump on Olivia partly because of the rude things she said about her marriage to the Italian guy.
I agree – they are working together and probably get along really well and like to spend time together. Harry can’t be seen with anyone, men or women, and not be romantically linked to them. It’s because he never talks about it – so people feel the need to make something up. Can’t a man and woman just be friends?
I think Jason is doing these leaks simply because he is hurt and thought there was a chance of reconciliation. All relationships have grey areas and to me it seems like they were in a rut anyway and perhaps meeting Harry Styles gave her the extra push she needed to end something that was just drifting.
Lily James got so much attention because she and DW were so brazen and those Rome pap shots. Not to mention she kind of went into hiding while he did a bizarre press conference, so people were even more curious about her. And there were rumours apparently from Elizabeth Hammer’s camp about Armie & Lily on the set of Rebecca.
Yes, Olivia said some rude things about her first marriage. But that wasn’t a cheating thing so why is it being linked to the possibility of overlap in this Jason-Harry timeline? She’s not like Brad Pitt, who tried to dispell rumours of cheating (apparently everyone in the Burbank Hotel area knew they were hooking up on set) by playing up the I-wanted-babies and Jen-was-boring. She was just expressing how stagnant her marriage was, not trying to deflect attention from cheating rumours.
Usually, when I choose to read comments on this site, it is 99% fun, cordial, sometimes insightful, occasionally delightful.
This set of comments- is everyone just really stressed or (understandably) at the end of their rope this morning?
Thank you! That’s exactly how it feels to me too. Usually I find posts and commenters here to be savvy and thoughtful, but this…a lot of these comments are just gross and sad.
I don’t know very much about these people, but purely based on body language, Jason is not into Olivia, and has not been for some time.
I agree and has no one ever heard of those rumors that he was cheating on her for years?
He somehow looks either extremely insecure or lost in all their photos, save one. She looks beaming and confident. Oh well she found a young hottie. Men do it allll the time and women are just supposed to pick up their stuff and go. Gimme a break. Go Olivia.
Look, they were not married, so it wasn’t really cheating. He should have put a ring on it. Well, not like that matters very much in this day and age.
Wow. This post, and these comments…I started coming to this site to read about the Sussexes but maybe it’s time for a rethink. There’s a lot of toxicity on display here.
The Royal post comments are just as bad as these. I can’t read them anymore.
I’m going to keep with my theory that having our democracy hanging in the balance, our economy in shambles, and to varying degrees having our lives made worse by the pandemic (i still have a job, but my mother died of covid; but i know it could be so much worse)
people are just snappy and snarky, especially after last week.
I haven’t read comments on the monday morning posts, but i am hoping they/we are being less nasty to one another.
And when someone does say something – like in the Olivia Wilde post- someone spoke about him marrying out of his league- people took that really personally and argued about classism.
I saw it as a joke, and as a thing we say to our friends, when we think they are too good for the mediocre guy they are dating. A passing comment, not meant to incite deep discussion on class warfare.
Hopefully everyone takes a deep breath and uses this site for what it is, a delightful, smart, fun escape.
Hope everyone has a good week.
Ariel, I’m so sorry for your loss. And I agree, I’m noticing more and more frequently that innocuous comments are getting a pile-on of responses looking way too deeply into comments that are typically taken in jest on here, or at least not with so much hostility.
OMG, I’m so sorry about your mother. Please take as much care of yourself as you can, physically AND emotionally; this is the time to be kind and gentle with yourself. Hope this year gets easier soon…
@ Ariel, sorry for your loss. I concur with your assessment. Don’t worry 😉, gossiping can be great again ( and no, that is no nod to MAGA. Feel I need to tack on that disclaimer, considering. I’ll just leave it at that). Happy New Year Everyone.
Team Nobody at the moment. I can’t help but question why these “sources” didn’t push back on the timeline when their split was first announced? Why only after she was seen out with Harry weeks later? Jason’s camp had plenty of time to get ahead of this and didn’t…why, unless there’s some sort of retaliation against her? I don’t think it’s early enough to say if one person is in the right over the other. Maybe she cheated on him, maybe not. But I don’t think one article from Jason’s camp holds the truth to anything more so than Olivia’s. *shrugs*
+1
Watermelon sugar high!!!
Ok I’ll see myself out now…
The heart wants what the heart wants, but sometimes it’s better to squash a crush by using one’s head! I got a crush on someone while I was married with young kids, and am SO GLAD I squashed it; sometimes it’s more about feeling trapped at a certain point in life. (The guy aged really badly, BTW, and the thought of him now creeps me out!) I think Jason’s a better bet in the long run, he seems like a likable guy, and the fact they have kids together should weigh in too.
I still think the whole thing is fake. She’s pretty desperate for attention, for someone who’s a self-proclaimed feminist trying to challenge Hollywood. Through Harry, he gets the cover he needs (he’s just as greedy for attention), and she gets a whole younger demographic paying attention to her. Oh and as a bonus, it also promotes the film. This is the sort of thing women her age do in Hollywood when they’re not getting media attention anymore. Sad.
Honestly, Olivia Wilde sounds like a huge whore