Prince Harry ‘wants to keep’ three military titles but the Queen will likely take them away

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One minor thing I like to keep my eye on is which British outlets are breaking which stories. This week, the Telegraph had the exclusive story about Archie Mountbatten-Windsor’s birth certificate mix-up, and how Meghan’s American staffers are likely to blame for either Meghan’s BC name change or the statement about the Palace “dictating” the name change to Meghan. Now the Telegraph has another (paywalled) exclusive about Prince Harry being desperate to keep his military titles/honors. My point? Buckingham Palace is leaking to the Telegraph, and this story is what those fussy, nasty old BP courtiers want to believe:

Despite stepping away from royal duties and relinquishing some of his honourary titles, there are a few that Prince Harry is eager to hang onto. The Telegraph is reporting that the Duke of Sussex is hoping to have three military titles reinstated that he was forced to relinquish, pending a one-year review.

Those three honourary titles — Captain General of the Royal Marines, Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Honington and Commodore-in-Chief, Small Ships and Diving, Royal Naval Command — are one of the few issues yet to be resolved following he and wife Meghan Markle stepping down from their royal duties.

“His military work is one of the most important things to him,” a friend told The Telegraph of why these particular titles are of such high importance to him. “Of course he wants to keep them.”

When the duke and duchess made their bombshell announcement last year, Harry reportedly expected to spend more time travelling back and forth between Britain and his new home in America; the pandemic, however, slammed the brakes on those plans. A palace source confirmed he’ll likely be forced to give up the titles, as the Queen made it crystal clear at last year’s Sandringham summit that a “one foot in, one foot out” approach to the couple’s royal duties was unacceptable. Despite all that, Harry reportedly believes that his 10 years of military service and his continuing affiliation with the Invictus Games Foundation aid his efforts to keep the titles.

[From The Telegraph via ET Canada]

Again, just punishment after punishment. The Windsors have narrowed in on what will hurt Harry the most, and the Queen has been holding this over his head for a year now. “Come back and I’ll let you keep your military titles” versus “stay with Meghan and we’ll continue to punish you.” Anyway, I tend to believe that Harry was prepared to leave all of this behind. Sure, he’s sad. Sure, he would love to continue to represent the British military, especially given that he’s a veteran who served overseas in war. But Harry also knows how petty and small his family can be, and he was prepared to make this bargain for freedom.

Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex at service to mark the centenary of the Royal Air Force on 10/07/2018

Britain's Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex attend the 91st Field of Remembrance at Westminster Abbey in London, Thursday, Nov. 7, 2019.

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  1. Becks1 says:

    He’s definitely going to lose those titles and its going to hurt him, but I think he knows its coming. I do think it will make the royals look that much worse, especially in light of the wreath at Remembrance Sunday – because it will continue to look like what it is, the Afghanistan veteran being snubbed in favor of his brother or uncle or whoever.

    When this topic comes up on twitter, the cambridge stans have a variety of excuses for why Harry “has” to lose the titles, but the military veterans that speak out are usually pretty clear that they still like and respect Harry. so I can see this being a real slap in the face for many of them.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Harry and Meghan need to play chess with all the titles, be prepared to sacrifice them and lose that battle. Then they should go to war. And win. They have non racist people on their side. They have for the most part independent US and world media on their side. They are also on the right side of history. The House of Windsor on the other hand is in self destruct mode. The BM will turn on them sooner or later and all their buried secrets will resurface. The perfect storm of their karma is forming.

      • Myra says:

        I feel like he has done that already and there is nothing more to do on his part. The Queen can do what her courtiers tell her to do and that will not change the course Harry’s on right now. He is carving a different life for himself and they want to be petty. All we need to remember is that the Prince of Kent(?) retained all his military titles, despite not being a working royal, had questionable financial dealings, represents the queen on occasion, retains his HRH and his wife used hers for commercial dealings. These are the details we should focus on.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        This is totally BACKWARDS. Harry should be allowed to keep his military titles, and give back all his non-military ones. The military ones were eared through his work and support for the military. The other ones are bestowed simply because of bloodline, and have no place in the modern world. Plus, holding the “HRH” title only identifies that person as belonging to a racist institution that protects rapists — why would anyone WANT to identify with a group like that?

      • Chica says:

        What exactly would Harry and Meghan going to war look like to you?

      • Chica says:

        What exactly would Harry and Meghan going to war look like to you?

    • Ginger says:

      It definitely makes the RF look awful. This is how they treat veterans. The RF doesn’t care about the military.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        On the plus side, maybe the Queen can take the titles she stripped from Harry, and give them to Kate? Surely Kate deserves more accolades, right? She’s the backbone holding the monarchy together, quietly leading the country behind the scenes, and, um . . . showing charities how much she cares about people by wearing fancy clothing. And, um, . . . you know . . .

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      I’ve never served in the military, but have many friends who have.
      A story told me once by a friend who served in Afghanistan: his CO, upon pinning a medal on him, said to him “A soldier’s medals are bookmarks on the pages of a life bravely lived”.

      It’s something that has stuck with me as I’ve followed Hazza’s journey to freedom this past year. I grew up in a house ruled by narcissists and emotional/psychological abuse. While mine didn’t happen in a public fishbowl, I have a sense of what Harry has gone through and the fine line he’s had to tread just to survive in that family. When you’re in that world, NOTHING has more value than being free of the abuse. Abusers will often hold things over their victims to keep them tethered to them so they can continue to abuse them – inheritance, prestige, paying for college, for example.

      I agree that Harry’s probably sad about some aspects of the split, but I suspect he’s more sad about the fact that his family showed their asses, and decided doubling down on the abuse was of more value than admitting that their behaviour is sadistic and immoral, and that they’d done Harry and Meghan a great wrong.

      I don’t think Messy Bessy of House Petty is willing to go farther than removing the honorary titles. I don’t think Charles is either, because he’s liminally self-aware enough to know that the blowback on himself would be worse than the satisfaction he’d get from taking say, the earned honours away. The damage that is already doing, I don’t think they see the full picture of, to be honest.

      But William, who knows the world knows the only reason he’s allowed to even put on a uniform is because of who his Daddy and Granny are, not on his own merit – his escapades, low flight hours, and failure to report for duty would have had any commoner in the RAF thrown out on a dishonourable – seethes every time he sees his brother Harry working with his FELLOW VETS. Harry has made lasting relationships in military service; William has not. Harry has earned medals that William has not.

      I predict that William will at some future point, when he has the reigns of power, seek to revoke Harry’s honours, because he can’t bear that Harry has achieved more and is better regarded. But like that old Army CO said, “a soldier’s medals are bookmarks on the pages of a life bravely lived”. William can take all the medals away he likes, but Harry will still be the BOOK. Honours were invented so that do-nothing monarchs could attach themselves to the valorous deeds of others; removing honours, be they titles or medals, only diminishes the monarch, never the soldier.

      So in removing honorary titles now, Messy Bessy diminishes the Crown, essentially. If Charles upholds the removal, he diminishes it further. And to what end? It’s not going to make Harry come crawling back, because freedom from abuse will always have a higher value than any hunk of brass or patronage.

      • Babz says:

        What an excellent comment! Thank you for laying it out so clearly and succinctly.

      • MyOpinion says:

        @ Where’sMyTiara, what a wonderful and deep sentiment that you shared. It uncovers the depth of the true meaning of the sacrifice and the duty upon receiving the medals. Though I think it’s true that abusers love to maintain some semblance of the opportunity to keep power over you so that they can and will continue to abuse you, at times you have to step away entirely so that they no longer have that power. And I agree that should Harry be able to keep these well deserved honous, the jealous and PWT will certainly make certain that he will be able to harm his brother at all costs.
        And @BayTampaBay, I absolutely adore your suggestion as this is certainly a representation of his admiration with all veterans worldwide!!!

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Very well said @wheresmytiara!

      • Chrissy says:

        Very well said, Where’sMyTiara. All this talk of taking Harry’s honours away is simply punitive at this point and has nothing to do with de-Royalizing Harry. It’s pathetic and unforgivable that Petty Betty’s, Charles’ and especially William’s actions are not coming from their royal selves but rather are very personal in nature. As a Grandmother, father and brother to do any of this to personally hurt their own grandson, son and brother, to me, is unconscionable and says far more about Betty, Chuck and PWT than anything else. Royalty always consider themselves better than everyone else but their actions show that they are seriously flawed and far from embracing family or showing any real human emotion. They deserve no respect. These people are monsters. Enough is enough. Burn down the Monarchy!

      • Tessa says:

        I remember how William commandeered a military copter to go to Peter Phillips bachelor party. For anyone else that could very much mean dismissal or being censured. William’s superior officer had to be the one to apologize. I wonder what would have happened if it had been Harry.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Would it mot be a great big kick in the teeth to the PwBT if the Royal Marines, the RAF Honington and the Small Ships and Diving, Royal Naval Command all decided to ask Harry to be a patron in his own right sans the “Royal” moniker?

      If this scenario would actually transpire, I would love to be a fly on the wall of KP when BwBT is informed.

  2. Case says:

    He’s a veteran who dedicated a good part of his life to serving. It’s shameful to take his military titles away.

  3. Snuffles says:

    Yup. Still tone deaf. They’ll do it to “punish” him and will live to regret the backlash. Especially if they try to hand those titles to William or, worse, Andrew. I think the military have made it crystal clear how happy they are with Harry.

    • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

      Harry will still be able to say that he’s kept the real military titles, the ones he earned. We all know that the medals on Charles, William and the rest of them are just self-aggrandising nonsense that they’ve awarded themselves.

  4. JT says:

    So Harry has to lose his honorary titles, but not Andrew who still has his and nobody dares to even mention his titles being taken away. Ok then. They are always showing their asses. All of the reasons for taking Harry’s falls flat when your consider the other members. What about Philip, who also stepped down due the retirement? He still had all of his honors as well.

    • Oy_Hey says:

      this – I actually don’t know that it will happen because this is going to be the first thing that comes up from anyone who isn’t a giant RF stan. I can almost see Virginia Roberts asking that question herself. It would bring so much heat on Andrew, but I guess in their rage to swipe at Harry they’ll just take that heat.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Have not all the organizations of which Andrew is a patron of basically said they want nothing further to do with him going forward? That would hurt me more than my mother or brother taking honorific patronages titles away from me

  5. Maria says:

    Neither him nor Archie nor Meghan should ever go back.
    Not for Philip almost dying, not for the Queen’s birthday, not even for that stupid statue unveiling that William will be an unconscionable brat about anyway.
    These people are disgusting and I hope they continue to feed off each other’s unhappiness.

    • Alexandria says:

      Phillip did not defend his grandson’s family, he can die being the racist asshole that he is. The world is not any lesser without him. As for the statue, William and family can keenly perform and milk the Diana love.

      Harry and Meghan honour Diana in their own way and the best way. Good King Harry.

      • Maria says:

        It has been said on here that we shouldn’t be glad if Kate looks haggard and unhappy. I for one am. She goes along with this and endorses it. She deserves her unhappiness and so do the rest of them.

      • MyOpinion says:

        @ Alexandria, the most striking difference is that Harry and Meghan honour Diana everyday, where as the other useless PWT and Unwilling Keen have not honoured in any sincere manner, nor will they do so unless they benefit greatly from it.

    • Babz says:

      @Maria, I agree. The simple statement, “I am my mother’s son,” and taking on the kind of philanthropic work Diana loved, honors her more than any statue ever will. The Cambridges can bask in the spotlight at the statue’s dedication, and people will stop to look at it and move on. The work that Harry and Meghan are doing, and will do, keeps the real memory of Diana front and center all the time, for all the right reasons. If they can’t or won’t travel to the UK for the dedication, it’s their choice. I certainly won’t criticize them either way, because in the long run, their work will make a difference in people’s lives, which is the best kind of remembrance.

      • GuestwithCat says:

        I wonder if Meghan and Harry introduced Archewell in the manner they did to not only rectify the matter of names of mothers being omitted from their children’s birth certificates but as a pre emptive move to establish Diana’s legacy is the work, not a statue. I am wondering if Harry will not be returning for the statue’s unveiling. As unpleasant as it would be for Meghan to return to Britain anytime soon, I can’t imagine it would be any better for Harry given that his family keeps attacking him and disrespecting him personally and directly.

  6. Golly Gee says:

    I don’t know. I think a lot of what the palace has done has been to try to force him to come back. Now that it’s becoming clear that those tactics have failed and he is perfectly happy where he is, they may relent if only to keep something over his head.

    • JT says:

      I would believe that if the wreath incident didn’t happen. The wreath was already made by fellow vets, they denied the laying, and then bragged about it. This family is only intent on punishing him for not putting up with their bullsh*t anymore. His happiness and success only makes the royals hate him even more.

      • Islandgirl says:

        I agree JT..the wreath incident has convinced me that he is not keeping those titles.

        However while I am sure that Harry will be disappointed, Tom Bradby said at the beginning that both Meghan and Harry were willing to give up everything so by now he has probably accepted this.

        If he hasn’t he should. The way that the firm (I refuse to use the word family) has operated since they left has shown most most people exactly what Harry and Meghan were dealing with behind the scenes – “The Markles with money and power”….certainly not the class.
        Sign…so so disappointed.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        The Wreath Incident, while meant to be a show of power by the BRF to Harry, was a spectacular own goal. The Queen, and her courtiers advising her, hurt the monarchy by doing that. They injured the Crown and diminished it by engaging in that rancorous, petty spectacle. It did no damage to Harry. Harry is a war vet, and his fellow veterans and families of vets, and the wider public do not think less of HIM because his family was too churlish to put a wreath down that was already set aside for him.

        Harry’s not destroying the monarchy; The Queen, the PoW, and Terribly Keen Bill and all their courtiers are destroying the monarchy. And the enmeshed tabloids are making bank on the clickbait.

  7. Alexandria says:

    It’s ok because that witch queen gets the family she deserves. I’m sure she will also take away HRH Prince Michael of Kent’s honorary military titles too? Oh wait he married a white person.

    #AbolishTheMonarchy

  8. What’s eating you says:

    I think he’s aware that the queen is going to snatch those back even though the precedent has already been set with a Royal not being a working royals and still holding honorary military titles like Prince Michael and Andrew despite him being a degenerate.

  9. Sofia says:

    While I’m sure Harry would love to keep them, he also is probably prepared for the fact that he’ll lose them but it doesn’t mean his commitment to the military and veterans is over or that he needs it to continue working with them.

  10. Cecilia says:

    The fact that prince micheal of kent is allowed to represent the queen, while making commercial deals and also have honorary military titles, yet they forbid harry all of the above actually makes my blood boil. It has been clear from day 1 that the sussexes are treated differently from not only william and kate but also royals who are way below them when it comes to hierarchy. Talk about double standards!

  11. Kalana says:

    Why is the Queen so angry about Harry leaving or marrying Meghan? We know what’s up with William and that Charles won’t intervene but all this harassment is only possible with the Queen’s approval.

    Is it Andrew? As in the Queen wanted more visual support of Andrew? Is it racism? Both? Meghan getting too much attention?

    The BRF want this marriage to end and are putting all the pressure they can behind this.

    I’m sure Harry anticipates losing these roles but will still go forward and do meaningful work. And who knows how things will change when William can no longer run to Granny to fight his battles for him.

    Charles should be focusing on breaking up William’s relationship with the Tories and right-wing press. William is out of control and needs his wings clipped.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Richard Palmer very helpfully had a thread where he pointed out that Prince Michael had military associations despite running a business & not being part of the working member of the RF. he was at the Cenotaph last year laying a wreath. But apparently the difference is he has been loyal and discreet lol. I wonder if the firm is using discretion eg around court cases etc as a bargaining chip for Harry.

      Also I think Duchess of Kent still has some military associations & has been with the family at Remembrance Day despite having retired from royal duties years ago.

      Palmer also said that the Sussexes ‘intervened’ in the US election & embarrassed the queen so that’s why Harry would likely lose his military associations. His thread was another example of it being clear that the U.K. establishment really wanted a Trump win

      Of course there’s largely radio silence on what’s happening with Andrew’s military associations. Most of Harry’s treatment& the blatant double standards is just because of who he married. But also the press & their trolls& no doubt some in the firm really want to see the Sussexes punished so this might be the way to do it.

      • Maria says:

        LOL, I love the “but he’s discreet!” excuse.
        IE, nobody gives a sh*t about him, lol!

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “His thread was another example of it being clear that the U.K. establishment really wanted a Trump win”

        The UK establishment needs a “free” trade deal with North America to help make up for economic loss due to BREXIT. The UK was probably more likely to get a trade deal quicker and sooner with Trump than with Biden for many reason to numerous to go into here.

        I think it would be unfair to say the “total UK Establishment” prefers Trump over Biden as a person/leader. I think it was a matter of who could give them what they need and want at the earliest possible date.

        On another note: I believe the Duchess of Kent and Princess Alexandria are considered semi-retired Royals not non-working Royals. However, I could be wrong on this matter.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        On another-another note: “Charles should be focusing on breaking up William’s relationship with the Tories” I

        I do not think the Tories really like William as much as it is that they dislike Charles. I think the Tories paid attention to William and PwBT ate it up with a spoon and continues to suck up the Tory attention with a straw.

        Do not forget that Baldy Mountbatten Glücksburg Trainbridge is really nothing more than a “wanna bee” in everything he has ever done or attempted to do. Politicians, of all nationalities, prey on “Wanna bees” as tool to serve their own best interest and to use to reach their own end goals. The Tories really do care about Baldy Mountbatten Glücksburg Trainbridge as a person because Baldy Mountbatten Glücksburg Trainbridge really does not stand for anything except his own selfishness.

      • Nic919 says:

        Biden will negotiate a treaty according to the rules and not through kickbacks, as dump would have done. Boris knows that the UK is in a weaker negotiating position post Brexit and wanted any possible advantage. They didn’t actually like dump but he’s easily bought and that’s what they liked.

        And to add to BTB’s point about William. Boris and the Tories like him because he is also easily manipulated through his insecurities and fragile ego. Charles may be weak with respect to his family, but he is more informed than William and as such not as easily fooled. Plus his environmental issues makes things difficult for a right wing government and he actually cares about them, whereas Billy would drop the pretence if given something in exchange.

      • ABritGuest says:

        @BTB didn’t say the total UK establishment. But Trump had ALOT of cheerleaders at the top from MPs who should be neutral but were cheering him on& using that sleepy Joe dig to even the Guardian doing a few sympathetic profiles on him.

        Apart from wanting to crash out of the EU without a deal & therefore wanting a quick US trade deal- I think UK trump fans wanted a partner in their ultra right wing project. So Biden’s win leaves UK slightly isolated.

        I also think much of the ruling class in the U.K. subscribe to some of Trump’s values- upholding white supremacy, anti immigration (a big factor in Brexit) etc but they just aren’t as openly crass as him.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @ABritGuest – I never realized that Trump had much pro-active support in the UK Parliament other than what was necessary for a trade deal. Thank you for the insight.

        From what I read in The Guardia, the Scottish Parliament (and most Scots) appear to me to dislike Trump as much as me and my fellow CBers. Are I correct in this thought?

      • Kalana says:

        The BRF prefers the Kents to the Sussexes.

        So what happens afterwards? Andrew still has all his roles. How do the BRF and rota keep attacking the Sussexes? It’s so strange to me that no one in the BRF is thinking of reconciliation, just continued fighting. Harry and Meghan are not going to split up.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      Because she is the monarch and has believed her whole life that the monarch is the only one/thing that matters. Everyone else must give up any and everything to sacrifice for the monarch and Harry was supposed to deny himself the woman he loves for the monarchy sake and dedicate his life to being a supporting player to her, his father and his brother. Of course when it comes to her favorite degenerate all of this goes out the window. In the end, she is doing this because she is just a jealous, petty, greedy woman who has enjoyed power for too long and believes she can’t be touched and for the most part she’s correct, they revere her over there. Not even the CW made up largely of black/brown people have the balls/ovaries to really go against her, though they know she looks down on them. Every time someone says when the queen dies this or that will be different, my thoughts are, but why wait?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Because they want to invited to the wake??? LOL! LOL!

        I can think of no other reason to wait.

  12. Vanessa says:

    So Meghan basically dunked on the palace and their band of carnival so called reporters this week . And now it’s time for some payback so Harry is the one the palace is trying to harass now messing with military which they know will hurt Harry .

    • Cecilia says:

      No they are trying to guilt trip harry into coming back. They never liked meghan but it’s harry they are upset with. They never wanted him gone because they were banking on his popularity and relatability to the UK public and especially the youth to carry them for decades until the cambridge kids were old enough. Why do you think the palace has been riding the kate pr train so hard lately. She was the most popular royal after harry and carrying the monarchy forward is now her task. Problem is, kates boring, out of touch, lazy, and simply doesn’t have the charisma. Nearly 10 years in the firm and all we get is is a whole bunch of nothing. The more PR is needed (and kate has been needing a lot as of late) the worse it is.

      • Tessa says:

        The comments by Cambridge stans that Harry was happier being with Kate and William than Meghan are so absurd they are laughable. Harry looked miserable trailing after them.

  13. L84Tea says:

    Go ahead and take them, but don’t cry and wring your white gloved hands when you get smacked up and down with backlash from the public. God, they really are the worst people ever. To do this to your own family. It makes me absolutely sick.

  14. lanne says:

    Why on earth did these people agree to let Harry marry Meghan? It is the ultimate in cowardice that they thought they could pretend to accept her, then work to push her out, rather than just say no and leave it to Harry to stay or go. They are racists. They might as well embrace it and own it and take the world condemnation. Every single thing they do comes back to race. They tried to destroy a woman’s integrity and good name to make her the “bad guy” so they could comfortably kick her out.

    How utterly disrespectful to Harry. How sad for him that his military service, all the times he’s towed the family line, has lead to this. They have no love for him. He is just a tool for them to use as they see fit. Kudos to Harry for having a bright, shiny spine, and building his own life on his own terms. Meghan has saved his life. No drafty castle, no title is worth the shit he has put up with.

    • Yoyo says:

      They knew they could not stop Harry from marrying Meghan, he loves her and would’ve walk away.
      The Courtiers resort to what they are best at, undermining the couple, it worked numerous times before, with the feeble men in family.

      • Ginger says:

        Agreed. The men in that family are cowards. Harry isn’t. Harry is a strong person who has integrity and morals. He would have walked away from it all to marry Meghan because he loves her. The other men in that family don’t love their spouse.

    • Over it says:

      You speak the absolute truth

    • Petra says:

      I think the whole shenanigan from toxic Tom before the wedding was to stop the wedding from taking place and buy the palace time to wreck the relationship. I’ll not be surprise if it’s discovered that toxic Tom came into some monies during this period.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        Oh, they paid that loser, which is why he made some of the incendiary statements he made about them being a cult and they owed him. He was paid quite handsomely to betray is daughter which was no trouble for him because his love for her was conditional just like his other children. Never forget that Markle doesn’t have a relationship with any of his children or grandchildren. His thing with Samantha was a temporary team up against a common enemy. The Markles and the Windsors are the same, only thing separating them is money and power.

      • SofiasSideEye says:

        I’ll never forget TT saying, “the queen owes me.” So I agree with you completely. I really hope an investigative reporter takes the time to look into the possible relationship between TT and the RF. I would love for them all to be exposed for colluding with each other.

  15. Yoyo says:

    The Queen can do whatever she want, the Military will always have respect for Harry.
    Other than the Queen, no one else in the Royal family can get the attention Harry gets, and there is nothing they can say or do to change it.
    Sure he is Diana’s son, so is baldy, no one raves about meeting baldy.
    The Queen is use to using money to manipulate her family, she never ran in to a black woman with a work ethic.
    When Harry and Meghan are this quiet, chances are they’re getting ready to make another work related announcement

  16. Bren says:

    Stripping Harry of his military titles won’t stop the work he does on behalf of the veterans. When all is said and done, the titles won’t matter. Harry’s devotion to supporting veteran causes will be his legacy and no amount of pettiness from the royal family will change that.

  17. Over it says:

    If racist grandpa , rapist uncle Andy can keep their made up titles, then does Harry a true man who choose his biracial family over his f-up blood relative really need those made up titles? Staying connected to them and who gave them to him would be like condoning all the bad that family stands for. He can still continue to honor and do good by the military without them. He has proven that many times over. Harry is better than a title. He is what the rest only wish they had a sprinkle of, completely legit and sincere in his beliefs and actions. I won’t return for anything they had, not that hobbit petty bitch birthday, not my dead man walking grandpa and certainly not to make my asshole of a brother look good. They all lost the right to expect anything from him when they decided to try to destroy the woman he fell in love with anti his son. And if that wasn’t bad enough to deny him the laying of a wreath on Remembrance Day, well you can’t get any more despicable than that. I Have always found it incredible how a country that claimed to have loved Harry and wanted the best for him could treat him and his love like this even after they could clearly see he was happy. These people don’t know what love is, it’s all about control and ownership for them. They think he is one of the monarchy artifacts and they have a right to decide his fate. They don’t and he isn’t . He is a free human being who fought for his country so that he could enjoy the freedom to love and be with whoever he wants .

  18. Murphy says:

    Not a good look for the Queen. Very petty, to do this to a blood relative.

  19. Maliksmama says:

    H&M still communicate with “The Telegraph”. Why do they use “a friend” or “a source” when they can go straight to the horse’s mouth?

    I don’t believe the military titles are an issue for Harry. He understood then that they were going away. I don’t believe he thought Elizabeth was holding them for him.

    I believe that he’s gone from that family in all ways that matter. Going by the birth certificate nonsense, it’s clear there’s no communication between them.

  20. Merricat says:

    It’s like the monarchy is trying to do itself in. Lol. The whole world is watching it come down.

  21. Izzy says:

    I hope Harry is invited to visit Walter Reed Medical Center the day after they announce they’re stripping his military titles.

  22. lanne says:

    Hey, here’s a new way to scare young kids. Be a good child, or we’re going to take you over to the royal Palace and leave you with the Queen and her family! (Kid screams NOOOOOO!!!)

    Or a new fairy tale: a long time ago, a prince pined away in a little house next to a palace, locked there by his miserable family for refusing to play the part of the Fool they assigned to him. Along came a woman who loved him and agreed to marry him, even though that meant becoming a princess. Through the strength of their love, they were able to break free from the palace and build a new life together in the warmth of a new land in a lovely house by the sea. They lived happily ever after.

  23. Cee says:

    If they think his military titles are more important to him than his wife’s and child’s emotional wellbeing and safety, they’re in for a surprise.

    Abuse won’t make him want to go back. Can’t they see that or are they that inbred?

  24. Amy Bee says:

    It can’t hurt to ask to retain his military titles but I think, knowing his family, he’s prepared to lose them.

  25. Liz version 700 says:

    He needs to never go back. Never complain and never explain why he isn’t going back. This family is so so abusive. I’m not sure half way around the world is far enough away.

  26. L4frimaire says:

    After that whole wreath debacle and how publicly nasty it was, I’d be surprised if he actually kept those honorary titles. It’s obvious that the main job right now of the royal family is to constantly attack Meghan and Harry. Why can’t they just give it a rest for once. It’s one thing after another. I heard some right wing royal guy on a podcast talking about when they left. He kept going on about M being an actress with independent ideas who wrongly thinks she can voice “ political opinions” , never acknowledged the press attacks and racism, just dismissed it as criticism all wives get, and then said that the problem with them leaving is the fact that they still are visible and speak about topics. They want them to completely go away, like Jimmy Hoffa level disappearance. He acknowledged how good Harry was in his job and that loss, but dismissively put them leaving down to just wanting money and a luxurious lifestyle over duty. They even brought up Frogmore costs as them taking advantage of their “ lifestyle”. They decided that, even before they left, from the engagement on, they were going to punish Meghan and Harry for their union, regardless of the personal toll it took on them. This is why the attacks actually escalated after her pregnancy instead of toning down. He described being in the royal family as a life sentence, which is very telling, almost like a punishment. Also telling was how, once again, they equate rank to popularity, so them getting this unprecedented amount of media attention is seen, through his establishment eyes, as the Sussexes stepping out of line, trying to change the monarchy, as though they can control social media. I found him very offensive but that’s how they truly see it. It’s why they have this unrelenting anger about them. It is why they will never stop attacking them.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Speaking of Frogmore Cottage; any further word on why Eugenie and Jack did not move in and stay?

      • Maria says:

        I’m sure there was some “incandescence” involved and since Andrew and the girls don’t want to be cut off from the purse strings they acquiesced.
        Not that William controls the purse strings more than Charles, but we know Charles bows to William. More than he should, anyway.

  27. Mia says:

    I just want to thank Kaiser for venturing into the lands beyond the paywall so that we don’t have to

  28. Prof Trelawney says:

    Harry has a warrior’s heart, and they can’t take that away from him, no matter how much they try. And they don’t, no matter how many sashes and medals they wear. And maybe that’s why they’re so enraged…

  29. Lizzie says:

    Are these the honorary titles the queen stripped from him last year? The same ones there have been trial balloons for Anne and William but nothing has stuck yet. If they don’t go to Harry then they are meaningless aren’t they? Give them to Anne or William but they aren’t really about the military then. These were Philip’s and he did serve so well deserved. They could have gone to Andrew except he is a know perv and cannot show his face and should be turned over to the FBI for questioning. Harry served for a decade and deserves the honors.
    Compare the standing ovation they gave Harry to the crickets when William attended Bafta’s.

  30. Greywacke says:

    I wonder if this story is to there to test the waters about what the public response would be if the RF did strip him of these titles.

  31. Abena Asantewaa says:

    The Queen can take the honourary titles, but she cannot take away his military credentialls and The Almighty Invictus! All hail Good King Harry with his beautiful Princess! For the queen, I say; The lights are On but Nobody is Home. The queen is not fully incharge

  32. Flying Fish says:

    If the idiots want to strip Harry of his honorary military titles, let them.
    Harry has earned military credentials.

  33. Feeshalori says:

    I hope Harry can continue his association with these military groups without any honorary titles. His roots go deep with them and he doesn’t need the queen’s so-called magnanimity to prove that.

  34. Lucylee says:

    They took the honorary titles last year. Betty just doesn’t know how to give them to other people without looking terrible. Not much left in the clickbait vaults about HMA. Carnival of
    so-called Experts (COSE) need to write more about PWT and his family.

  35. Who is PMorgan to dictate on the Queen to take military titles from her grandson PHarry? This man Piers is too big for his breeches. Scram !

  36. Sarah I says:

    You know, I have a personal credo that has helped me in many ways, many permutations. What I tell myself (figuratively) is that if I can’t get in the front door, try the back door. And if I can’t get in the back door, go through a window. So, I’ve dealt with some seriously nasty people (my family) in my life. And why should nasty people call all the shots and hold all the cards. I’ve really got it that the Royal Family holds some serious power, and are used to wielding it.

    But why cannot the British military pass out their own f…ing awards. Invent one if they need to. Choose who they want to represent them. Send Harry an invitation and ask him if he would do whatever. Why be dictated to like a little boy. He is a grown man who has served his country. Why should the not without power themselves British military make some choices for themselves and show some power instead of waiting around like little birds waiting to be fed by the Queen.

    And that brings up another issue with me. Harry has served his Queen and his country. Apparently there is no legality about rescinding an award for labor well done. The bitch wants to take it back, but she cannot erase or take back his record, his service, his sacrifices, his time spent.

    Anyway, why not go about this a different way. Why shouldn’t the Military, who clearly adore Harry, make their own choices, and if that can’t be done, make up some different awards, honors and honorary posts to be held? Why not? If you can’t go in the front door and get what you want, go in the back door or climb through a window.

    • Noor says:

      Agree. The military titles that he has held are honorary and largely ceremonial titles given to a prince whether he has served in the army or not. There were talks that these titles are to be given to Princess Anne .So be it. Why should Prince Harry fight to hold these types of titles.

      The military should be able to appoint him a more fitting role that he has earned by virtue of his past service in the army and his continued interest and willingness to serve the military veterans.

  37. Gail Hirst says:

    @Overit: When you say “he is one of the monarchy artifacts”…I heard ‘he is less than human as the second-born. He is a tool to use as we see fit.’ Which led me to think: so were slaves.
    They have not evolved