As we discussed, additional charges have been added to the indictment against Ghislaine Maxwell. She still sits in a detention center in Brooklyn, awaiting a trial which is set for July of this year. The new charges involve Maxwell grooming and trafficking a 14-year-old girl for Epstein in a series of crimes from 2001-2004. Apparently, the dates are very important because of the cover story Prince Andrew gave Emily Matlis in late 2019 – he claimed that Maxwell only introduced him to Epstein in 1999. I’ll let Newsweek explain:
Ghislaine Maxwell faces grooming allegations from a new victim in her Jeffrey Epstein case, expanding the time frame to include the period when the pedophile was friends with Prince Andrew. Queen’s Elizabeth II’s second son is not accused of involvement in any of the charges on the indictment in the British socialite’s court case, due for trial in July.
He has been asked to give evidence to the FBI’s Epstein investigation but his legal team have been keen to stress the D.O.J. treated him as a witness not a target.
Previously Maxwell’s charges ran from 1994 to 1997 but the new victim’s allegations span from 2001 to 2004. The difference is significant because Prince Andrew said he met Jeffrey Epstein for the first time in 1999 in a 2019 interview with the BBC’s Emily Maitlis. Under the previous indictment, that meant the evidence all described a period in Maxwell’s life when Andrew claims she had not yet introduced him to Epstein.
Now she is due to stand trial on charges which include grooming a 14 year old girl to give Epstein sexual massages during the same era when the prince would sometimes stay overnight as a guest of the New York financier.
I can’t believe we’re trying to keep track of a timeline created by Maxwell and Andrew when there are literally photos of Andrew taking a walk with Epstein AFTER Epstein took a plea deal for trafficking and abuse. There are literally photos of Andrew answering the door of Epstein’s mansion and bringing in very young-looking girls. There are anecdotal stories from WITNESSES who saw Epstein, Andrew and Maxwell all hanging out together with various teenage victims. But sure, the new charges are absolutely bad for Andrew. Because of the timeline, and because of his claims that Ghislaine was his close friend, not Epstein.
In any case, here’s your periodic reminder that Andrew has still not met with the FBI. He played some semantic games during the Trump administration, perhaps knowing that the FBI would not seriously pursue questioning. But he’s been silent as the grave since Joe Biden came into the White House. Now, do I think that the Biden-era FBI will actually make Andrew’s lack of cooperation into a thing? Eh. But it’s interesting. Even the Daily Mail is saying that there are “renewed calls” for Andrew to sit down for questioning. Andrew was seen driving in Windsor yesterday too.
When Ghislaine Maxwell eventually names Prince Andrew I want everyone to remember that the UK was more concerned about Meghan touching her baby bump & denying the racism against her/Archie than they were about a potential pedo Prince which they still happily pay for pic.twitter.com/KDD5jGq77M
— Myra (@SussexPrincess) March 30, 2021
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I wonder if Prince Andrew comes out unscathed from this trial, whether Virginia Guiffre can sue andrew directly.
Even if she could she’d need tremendous resources to hire a lawyer to go against the firm’s legal team. I can’t imagine a normal person would have the funds to do so.
I expect there will be those who would be happy to fund this.
Merricat: Lol! Touché! I’d personally pay good money to see Andrew fry.
I would totally donate to a Go Fund Me for her just to see that disgusting POS get what he deserves.
I’m in. Let’s start a Go Fund Me.
Honest question- didn’t Guiffre settle out of court with both epstein & a few other unnamed accomplices?
& ps neither andrew nor ghislaine killed themself
There is a petition to have this debated in UK parliament actually- as it could be deemed a matter of state. fingers crossed!
I could see it framed as “a matter of state” – absolutely!
It should be a matter of state considering that Andrew committed an offense in the felony category in the US. Andrew should be brought to question to the FBI/DOJ for international and crimes committed on American soil.
After watching CBS This Morning, it seems that many commonwealth countries are having an “ah-ha” moment for the treatment of Meghan and conversations are being had to split from the commonwealth as a head of state. They should have thought about their future instead of bashing Meghan publicly, for a heavy period of four solid years, and not putting a stop to the personal attacks against her publicly and privately as opposed to protecting Andrew. We can all thank TQ, Baldimort and PC for protecting Andrew, not speaking up for Meghan and using Meghan as a scapegoat to protect their own and eliminate their above the law attitude.
Andrew is untouchable as long as mummy is alive. I have never seen the BM and press protect someone this much. Meghan on the other hand…..
Mummy is ride or die for him.
Talking about rides, I hope they bring that “wanted” bus out again for another ride round the block. It was epic.
Mummy is going to make all the bad people saying bad things about him go away.
This is so true and so telling of the “very much not racist” family. You have an actual pedo with a living victim and photo evidence but let’s go after the black girl and her baby instead. Gross.
This this this
The family has also never cared about girls or women the teeniest tiniest bit.
we were discussing Andrew’s security the other day – as an update, I didnt do a deep dive into this but did see a headline from…the Times I think? (so something more than DM etc) about how Andrew had been set to lose his taxpayer security until the Queen stepped in. So he is still getting security and not paying for it.
This is very bad for Andrew and the monarchy not just in terms of what could come out, but also in terms of direct contrast to the Sussexes. The Queen intervened to make sure HRH Prince Andrew still had protection. She did not intervene to make sure her grandson still had protection for an interim period as he figured out his next steps.
ETA, and, to me, this just highlights such a problem for the royal family. British law enforcement is NEVER going to investigate Andrew. What would be the point? So “the Crown” can prosecute him? We all know that would never happen. So you have a family who think they are above the law and can do whatever they want, and it turns out, they pretty much can.
I wonder if the security has been provided partly to keep a buffer around him and prevent any of the victims’ lawyers or journalists from approaching him and asking questions. We all know how he deals with those questions. Disaster! The Royals don’t need that kind of publicity right now, or ever. Understatement.
Same thoughts golly gee. The security is being paid so nobody can ask him questions…
Even the Prince Regent was once arrested by normal ol’ London guards. I believe it was for drunk driving (of a carriage.) They apologized after he’d spent a night in jail, and he said no you should be praised, what’s great about this nation is that no one is above the law.
Welp. Here we are. The modern Windsors are worse than the Regency.
Unfortunately, I’ve lost hope that any of these people will see justice. Trump, Andrew, I wouldn’t even be surprised if maxwell ended up walking. I’ve just got no more faith left in the justice system.
Back to watching the chauvin case.
Yeah, I’m thoroughly disgusted with the justice system, too. Mind you, my dad is a criminal defense attorney who always taught me a healthy skepticism, so I never had the highest opinion of the system to begin with, and yet it keeps sinking lower than even I could’ve imagined. They dug right through the bottom of the barrel and kept on going. I think they’ll be reaching the molten core of the Earth any time now.
We operate under a legal system, not a justice system. We are meant to follow through on the rule of law.
Justice almost never happens.
If there is any consolation, it is that Air Miles Andy is likely trapped in the UK for the rest of his life. He does not dare go anywhere that might be amenable to arresting and extraditing him; he is likely even leery about flying in international airspace. No more Switzerland for skiing. No more tropical island vacations. No collecting cash from dubious people abroad to fund his lifestyle. He made his bed, and now he will lie in it.
It’s nauseating the extent people are willing to go to cover up for such heinous crimes. I wish nothing but the worse for GM and I hope she drags Andrew down with her.
Oh, damn. This doesn’t look good. Quick, someone make another bullshit accusation against Meghan to deflect attention away from the pedophile prince!
I’m sure that is already in the pipeline. It’s disgusting that the BM, RF, and a portion of the British public have reserved more outrage over everything Meghan does over Andrew. Or the fact that Harry leaving could bring down the monarchy, but not the fact that they are protecting a pedo. Andrew’s completely shambolic interview, which only convinced more people that he was guilty, went down better than H&M’s Oprah special. It’s a crying shame.
It really is appalling. One of my Black friends has said that using lies about Meghan to distract the public from Andrew’s ACTUAL CRIMES might be even more painful for her than “just” the racism. Yes, of course the racism is terrible, but it’s also predictable. Just about every POC unfortunately has some experience in dealing with it. But Meghan had no way of knowing that they’d throw her under the bus for the sake of an arrogant, apparently invincible pedophile. How the hell could anyone prepare for that?
Anyone who knew the history of the royal family well would be prepared for that. But Americans generally don’t, and why should we? And I can understand Harry not being prepared for his own family to be so evil, especially because he spent so much time away from them. There’s a reason Will couldn’t get anyone English to marry him but someone trained into it by her parasitic stage mother.
Until Andrew himself is charged with something and mummy is still breathing, he’s going to remain untouchable.
I hope all the victims get justice. I really do.
Even if Maxwell rats him out to save her own ass he will never receive justice – Mummy will make sure of it. And yeah I really think she will in the end – she’ll give up some people to cut a deal.
She won’t rat out him or anyone else. She refused to answer pretty much every question authorities asked her, including the name of her husband. I doubt she will be convicted. She has the money to hire the best lawyers who will obscure the facts, destroy the witnesses, and foment enough reasonable doubt that she will walk.
I would not be surprised if Charles is biding his time regarding Andrew. When the outcry is too loud to ignore and the queen is gone, who knows what might happen?
I think people give Charles too much credit. If I remember correctly, Charles actually went to church with Andrew around Christmas after he’d stepped down. More support than what he gave H&M. It’ll be 5-6 years before he even gets on the throne and I doubt he’ll want to bring up Andrew again. Charles will let him slide as the queen has.
I suspect Charles doesn’t think Andrew did anything wrong.
if anything it might be the lack of discretion that bothers them, not the fact of exploiting others, after all, isn’t that the whole point of the BRF in one form or another, going back to the way they built up the whole slave trade, their colonies, their parasitic relationship with taxpayers, on an on.
Some people in the institution may be nice, but the institution itself is designed to abuse. And Charles — the way he can’t take responsibility for his own treatment of Diana, a teenager when he courted her while in his 30s and prob in love w Camilla at the time, and now H&M — is emblematic of that.
@Amy Bee, I believe that you have hit on the truth as far as Charles is concerned.
Question I have about security costs- when Charles becomes king, will he pay for Andrew’s security even if he is not a working royal? Even if it’s from Charles funds and not taxpayer funds? Not sure how that money part works. But doesn’t that mean he will pay his brothers security but not his sons even as they are both non working royals? Or is Andrew still considered a senior royal even though he is not working?
Exactly. Remember Charles’ friendship with Jimmy Savile. He molested literally hundreds of children. Charles had to have known.
this family has blurred lines about more than just what is work and not work. I feel sick. I hope to God that Canada leaves the commonwealth because the last thing I want is to pay for this grifters to leave their shit stains on our country. We already have enough shit stains to clean as it is.
Sexually exploiting teenage girls and very young women is not something the royal family is ever going to think is wrong. Charles did it himself, after all. There are relationships between 19 year olds and 32 year olds that are fine, but Charles’ manipulation of Diana is pretty much a textbook case of one that is not.
The rf happens to have a queen right now, but that’s obscuring a larger fact. To them, women are things.
Charles will NEVER do anything to let Pedo be prosecuted. It will set a dangerous precedent that the RF is NOT untouchable for laws they make break, intentional or otherwise. He may hate Pedo’s guts, and may try and exile him (on a “job” pretext or just help him vanish on an “allowance”), but he’ll never turn him over.
If Andrew goes down, that would put the monarchy at risk. Charles is not going to do anything more than he’s done – made Andrew step back from public duties.
Eh, I’m an optimist. When it all comes out, I think it would be more harmful to the monarchy to NOT do anything.
It absolutely would. Which is why the Monarchy will probably shoot themselves in the foot again and keep protecting Andrew.
I actually agree with you here, which is why I think @Cassandra is right – they are going to do whatever they have to do to keep it from getting out. I think if we knew the full extent of Andrew’s involvement with Epstein and Maxwell, things would be very bad for Charles, but I’m doubtful we’ll ever know that full extent.
Charles??? The guy who chose to marry a 19 year old girl when he was 32?
Yes, that guy. I personally find him emotionally cold enough to not think twice about torpedoing his little brother, especially if he thought it would save the monarchy. We just witnessed what William was willing to do to Harry; why should it be vastly different for Charles regarding his brother?
This whole thing with Andrew makes my blood boil. He is a predator, and should stand trial like anyone else. Maybe she will rat him out, but mummy is going to protect him by tossing Meghan under the bus. Look over there people, nothing to see here. DISCUSTING on many levels.
Let’s see what happens at trial. The new Attorney General, Merrick Garland, was the chief prosecutor for the Oklahoma City bombing. He and his team was able to get the death sentence on Timothy McVeigh. Right now prosecutions on the rioters at the U.S. Capitol (now standing at 400, maybe made) are at the top of the pile. But I have no doubt Garland is talking to SDNY to check in on progress. DOJ is independent from the White House as it always been (although Trump used the AG as his personal attorney). Garland is known to be methodical and given the players he will want to make sure it sticks. The BRF should worry.
I hope this is true, but I fear there are powerful men involved who can make this go away, including both Democratic and Republican politicians. Finally some cooperation across the aisle. /s
There are judges and lawyers who can be bribed, blackmailed or threatened – including their families. That was Epstein’s MO.
If they are able to convict her, there are men who will be named as sacrificial lambs. But I’ll bet there are also men who will be kept out of it. Just look at all the names that were redacted when Maxwell’s files were released.
I’m so relieved that an independent investigation is being called by the palace for Meghan’s “bullying ” while this vile abuser is facing abouslety no consequences.
Very much not a racist family. Thank you very much.
“Poor Andrew. Let’s keep talking about Harry’s awful wife. It’s worked so far.”
I wonder if andrew will end up less protected when his mom dies?
Will the “institution” keep him from ever having to answer questions.
I mean the questions can ONLY lead to embarrassment for the royals, but protecting a man who victimized sex trafficked girls is not a great look, even for dusty, archaic racists.
Let the entire international rape and trafficking cabal be brought to their knees.