Ken Wharfe: Prince William ‘often played second fiddle’ to ‘popular’ Harry


Ken Wharfe was a royal protection officer back in the days of “the war of the Wales.” He was especially close to Princess Diana, and he spent years protecting her, Harry and William. He retired from protection services long ago and he’s now a writer. Some times, he’ll chime in on the comings and goings of the Windsors, and he’s definitely profited from his association with Diana. That being said, he’s not really a regular royal commentator. I suspect that he would love that work – it’s an easy gig – but he has no poker face and he tends to tell the truth about the Windsors.

Back in 2015, Wharfe said that Prince William “was always a sly little boy, and now he’s become arrogant and spoilt. I hear from people who work for William that he can be very difficult.” Again, that was 2015. Wharfe also said, in the same breath, “I liked Harry better and I feel sorry for him because he was never really able to engage in his military career. But I think he’s the answer to the family’s longevity, and I bet if there was a vote on who should accede to the throne; the people would go for Harry.” Wharfe has also said repeatedly that the Windsors need to downsize and that they’re becoming increasingly irrelevant. So… that’s why Wharfe isn’t quoted all that often in the British press. He tells the truth. Speaking of:

Prince William always played “second fiddle” to his brother because Harry was “very popular”, Princess Diana’s former bodyguard has claimed. In an interview with OK! Magazine, Ken Wharfe, who was Princess Diana’s protection officer between 1988 and 1993, recollected memories from when William and Harry where boys.

He said the Duke of Cambridge, 38, who is second-in-line to the throne, was “better than Harry at certain things”, but the Duke of Sussex was a “natural listener and a fun person”.

Harry, 36 and who now lives in the US with his wife Meghan Markle and their two-year-old son Archie and newborn daughter Lilibet, wasn’t “embarrassed or shy”.

William, however, was “more reserved” and due to his character, rather than because he knew he could one day be king, the author of Guarding Diana said.

“William was helpful to his little brother to an extent, but if he saw him getting more attention, he didn’t like it,” Mr Wharfe said. “I think William often played second fiddle to his brother, simply because Harry was very popular and that was very difficult for him.”

[From The Daily Mirror]

It makes me think about how much of our character is already formed even in childhood. William was sly, jealous and lacking in Harry’s natural charisma. So instead of developing his own interests and personality, William seethed throughout his life, watching his younger brother win people over just be being himself. The now-adult brothers were always heading towards what eventually unfolded: Harry marries someone with an equal amount of charisma and they are hailed as the bright young things, the saviors of the monarchy, a new, bold era. And jealous William couldn’t have that. He couldn’t play second fiddle to his younger brother yet again.


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  1. LaraW” says:

    No wonder he’s called the Other Brother.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      It must kill him to know that even though he has been exalted his whole life as a future king, always protected, defended and showered with special treatment, it is only because of the order of birth and that alone, meanwhile his brother is favoured simply for being who he is, and no amount of being thrown under the bus to shield William could put a dent in his popularity. No wonder His Elegance seized the opportunity to destroy Harry’s reputation when he started dating Meghan. It was finally his chance to undo years of humiliation of being a future king in the shadow of a spare, so he used the racist, xenophobic, classist, misogynistic jealousy that he knew the palace, the family and certain sections of the public would feel against Meghan to turn them off her and Harry and support him and his keen wife by default.

      • Pinellas Pixie says:

        This. Everything you said here is so true. Will must be so frustrated that Harry and Meghan are succeeding in a way that he never could. Unlike Harry, Will does not have the inner resources to build his own life outside of the monarchy and we’ve seen how that angers him. We’ve read it in the smears against the Sussexes for years now. Meanwhile, Meghan is number 1 on the NYTimes Childrens Best
        Seller list and Harry continues to work for mental health improvement in a very real and visible way. While William sulks and lashes out, Harry and Meghan work toward improving, not just their lives, but the world.

      • The Hench says:

        There is a wonderful and justified irony in the fact that Will’s persecution has led to Harry getting exactly what William really, really wanted – the freedom to do what he wants and the riches to do it with. Harry is right, William is trapped like a fly in amber – to the throne, to the engagements, to all the duties of the monarch, to the taxpayers’ money, to the media and last but not least, in a marriage he grudgingly settled for. No wonder his fists and his jaw are always clenched.

    • DuchessL says:

      Having people regard you inly because you were born first and seeing people live your brother for the charismatic, fun, etc etc person he is, is a hard sting. William did well in marrying vanilla Kate, can you imagine the bat-sht that would go on if she was really keen, charismatic, and really cared? OMG.

      • swirlmamad says:

        It’d be The War of the Wales’ 2.0, of that we can be certain.

      • JT says:

        William is going to really explode if Harry wins and Emmy. The Me You Can’t See was submitted to the Emmys, along with Oprah’s special with H&M.

      • MJM says:

        Yet in the same breath Kate embarrasses him in the public arena whenever she speaks and that pisses him off. He doesn’t want her to be a superstar but is well aware of how her incompetence is a liability to him.

      • booboocita says:

        @JT — Oh, YES, please! Even if “The Me You Can’t See” is only nominated, with any luck we’ll get H & M on the red carpet at the Emmys, looking like a billion bucks!

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        JT…can you IMAGINE what TOBB would do if Harry is nominated/wins a BAFTA for it?? You just KNOW he’d make some excuse not to show up for *any* of the award season duties! lol

    • ShazzA says:

      Don’t forget how much attention Wills used to get because of his looks. Girls swooned over him back in the day and I think that plays a part in his behavior too. Much like the head cheerleader or prettiest girl in school, not to mention being future King, he never developed much of a personality.

      • JT says:

        @Boboocita I’m hoping it’s the farewell tour on steroids. I hope Meghan shows up covered in diamonds and unicorn tears.

      • JT says:

        @TheOG William wold have an aneurysm is TMYCS was nominated for a BAFTA. He would straight up combust if Harry won. I don’t even think he’d show up it that we’re the case. He couldn’t even handle all of the jokes they were making about Harry leaving.

    • what's inside says:

      Diana said that Harry had more from her personality-wise. I would guess that William takes after his father in all of the worst ways.

  2. Enny says:

    William can’t even play in the same orchestra as Harry.

    • Killfanora says:

      John Cleese, actor, was reported in the newspaper y’day as saying “What’s duller then ditchwater? Duller than Prince William.”

      • notasugarhere says:

        Worm turning? A few years ago, he was praising Carole Middleton’s ‘small and discreet’ 61st birthday party on Mustique. Different from the year before, where stories got out about W&K fighting, William being the one who went to Carole’s party while Kate stayed in the villa.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      In the early days there were attempts to paint TOB as a reserved intellectual. But watching him throw Harry under the bus to deflect from his laziness and lack of achievement revealed his petulant, no legacy, jealous incandescence in all its glory.

      • Nivz says:

        Urgh. If he were so intellectual, he wouldn’t have gone to St Andrews, given who he is. Had he possessed the slightest inclination or ability, Oxbridge would have snapped him up. I certainly don’t believe degrees are everything, but in this case, it’s informative.

        Prince Charles scraped his way into Cambridge, and passed with a 2:1. Regardless of his performance, he has long been seen as a well read man, who has followed through on his many long term interests and projects. He may not be an academic authority in any field, but I believe he can understand concepts and hold his own.

        Willnot can make bawdy jokes that nobody really wants to laugh at, talk about football, and pretend to be into the environment and conservation. There’s a difference between intellectual and plain boring.

      • swirlmamad says:

        It’s become so clear that William is anything BUT intellectual. We have not heard him speak authoritatively on ANY subject ever. There are no background sources speaking on his love of learning and reading. They tried to paint Harry as the family idiot but he has run circles around William when it comes to being engaged and wanting to educate himself.

  3. Noki says:

    It must be exhausting as a child being surrounded by sycophants drilling into you that you are some Supreme being. You can tell the same of how Charles barely acknowledges his own siblings. Moving forward W & K should change this narrative otherwise they will be doing a huge disservice to all three of their children.

    • Cecilia says:

      That was the plan before harry & meghan moved away. Elevate the Cambridges and their kids while the sussexes and their kids were the scapegoats.

      But harry threw that plan away when he decided to quit as a senior royal. Now im afraid louis and particularly Charlotte will be thrown under the bus just to keep george clean.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Well that’s already started. We have the Kate cuties calendar and poor Charlotte is already being called feisty. I hope to God those kids are protected.

      • Tessa says:

        And George is shown as the only grandchild in a dynasty photo next to Charles when he gives speeches. Already the spares are treated as such even as small children. I notice also that Kate and Will say George likes science, CHarlotte likes Ballet, and Louis is ‘mischievous.”

      • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

        They’ll warp George into a spoiled petulant monster like generations of direct line heirs before him.

    • Snuffles says:

      Yes, William has sycophants kissing his ass 24/7 but he also sees how the people like Harry more. It must drive him insane. His whole life what he’s being told never matched his actual reality.

      I’ve seen numerous clips and documentaries on William and Harry growing up and they all said William was jealous of Harry. Harry was more easy going, gregarious, more athletic, etc.

      There is this clip going around on Twitter of Diana with Harry chilling in her arms trying to get William to come inside from the garden and him refusing. Then Diana says “Alright, Harry will have all the fun.” Suddenly William starts screaming “Noooooo! No! No! No!” and finally runs inside. That scene sums him up perfectly.

      • Amy Too says:

        I think the fact that William wouldn’t be King for decades also adds to the frustration. You’re supposedly super special and everyone will respect and revere you because you’re the king, but you won’t actually be the King until you’re 50 or 60 years old. You’re just in this holding pattern where you know you’re special and hand picked by God or whatever, but you can’t really force anyone to actually like and respect you until you’re King. So in the meantime, you have to come up with other reasons or ways to force people into respecting you and revering you and acknowledging your greatness. You could do it with hard work and making a difference, or with your winning personality and sense of humor, or your intelligence and education but you don’t have any of those things BECAUSE you’re going to be king one day so you never were made to cultivate any of those things: you don’t need to work and you can’t really get stuck into anything outside of royal work because you’re going to be King one day, like you can’t join the military or become a banker or actor; you don’t have a winning personality or sense of humor because you’ve been spoiled your whole life and surrounded by serious grey men who hammer into you that your role is very serious and you must be very stoic and mature; and you never had to work for anything in school because you’re going to be King and that job doesn’t require an education, but even if you chose to get one anyways, people just pass you and give you good grades because they fear your family. So if you can’t make people like you, you cut down those that the people actually do like. You smear your brother, or wife, or sister in law, you tell lies about them and make those horribly deprecating “jokes” about them when you’re being interviewed. You insist that you get the best of everything and the most press coverage, and that everyone else has to do less and be less and get less.

        I think Charles deals with this issue a lot as well. He knows he’s special because he will be King but people don’t really acknowledge that specialness and respond to it with love, adoration, devotion, and reverence because he’s not King yet. And he’s been waiting his entire life. 70+ years now he’s been in this holding pattern or knowing he will be Great but not yet actually being Great yet.

      • Tessa says:

        I remember that Diana was delighted when William was to have parents day at Eton and made a picnic lunch for them. Then all of a sudden William got on his high horse and told them he did not want his parents there, just Tiggy. (Charles and Diana should have put a stop to it but catered to his whims). So Harry got the benefit of the picnic lunch while William was at Eton with Tiggy.

      • Nyro says:

        There’s also a clip of little Harry trying to pick up a dog and all the camera people were sort of giggling because it was cute. And then William comes over and snatches the dog out of Harry’s arms and yells at him to stop.

      • Sid says:

        Snuffles, that video of Diana with toddler Harry and young William really is like a little microcosm of the whole thing. As someone who grew up with younger siblings I know it’s perfectly normal for kids to get a little upset at seeing their siblings get something they aren’t getting, but William’s tantrum just seemed rather telling when taken into the larger context of everything we’ve seen over the years.

      • Ann says:

        Yes, I’ve seen that. To be fair to William, he is very young there, maybe four, and being stubborn and/or envious of your little brother isn’t unusual or abnormal at that age. The two-year age difference and the fact that they are the same sex compounds that dynamic, often.

        William and his relationship with Harry were not destined to end up this way. But he was given too much positive reinforcement and not enough consequences, so here we are.

      • Tursitops says:

        The bad instinct in George has already been fostered. Remember when he slugged the other baby at playtime?

      • Christine says:

        To be fair, Tursitops, you can’t ever tell what a little kid is going to do in any situation, because they are learning all of the situations for the first time. My brother and sister in law ended up with a daughter who was really chompy when she was 4, and thankfully she outgrew it. My son had a really bad day where he broke a tiny little preschool chair in anger, and I was certain I had given birth to a sociopath. He’s 11 now, and not remotely a danger to society. Kids get to have all the big emotions, it’s only concerning when they haven’t outgrown it by adulthood.

    • MA says:

      You’re assuming they disagree with that narrative of superiority. Clearly their PR and who they choose to surround themselves with reveal how they view themselves

    • swirlmamad says:

      That would require William to have the self-awareness of seeing the toxicity that was infused into the relationship between him and Harry. Unfortunately, he is not aware of a damn thing and sadly, the Cambridge kids are headed for the same fate. The fact that Uncle Harry, Aunt Meghan, and their influence have been driven out of their lives solidifies this.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Yes, TOB has no interest in looking within himself as to his issues and will always resent Harry for Harry being the one that everyone loves due to his natural ability to connect with people and has always been a royal that takes his work seriously. TOB could also take his work seriously, but he refuses to do so. Charles has been waiting to be king for decades but even Charles was able to cultivate a program and to work towards the global issues that are at hand right now. TOB refuses to do any actual work, that’s the bottom line and in regards to not wanting to work, Keen fits nicely into that marriage.

        As yes, I would love to hear more of what this guy is telling us!!

  4. JenBanana says:

    Wow. Makes so much sense.

    • Size Does Matter says:

      Right? Shocking people would prefer charismatic genuine Harry over robotic petulant work-shy cheating William.

      I’m sure William resents it and the brothers’ current relationship is a result. Not to mention him setting Harry up when they were younger.

      • Yvette says:

        Not only was Harry more charismatic and popular, but then he married a woman who was more charismatic than Keen Kate. I think both Cambridges seethed over the attention the Sussexes got.

      • Nan says:

        The Cambridges were visibly petulant about “the Harry & Meghan Show” when that was happening because Meghan actually increased Harry’s already-there charisma and star power instead of overshadowing it. They couldn’t compete with such a dynamic and generous pairing and they knew it so Kate passive-aggressively created a hurtful scene during wedding preparations with her future sister-in-law and the Cambridges sent out (and continue to keep alive) a story that it was Meghan who was the evil aggressor, the one who went after saintly Kate. Their whole tactic is to undermine/destroy Harry’s wife along with his very evident happiness with her, and they STILL haven’t stopped these evil maneuvers or begun to apologize to Meghan in any way. Then, the Queen and their father do nothing to call off the dogs, either. The Sussexes are very right to stay in CA and I hope Meghan snubs them forever.

  5. SarahCS says:

    More from this guy please.

    On a related but tangential note, my dad hates his older brother (two years older) and you can look at all sorts of rationale, eldest of the family, first son expected to follow into the business, bias from the parents, so dad was left out, blah blah blah. But a few years ago my grandmother told me that one day Rob was kneeling on a chair and dad toddled up behind him and bit him really hard on the leg. So whatever it was that caused this hate it started super early and they are very different characters too. Dad is a total narcissist and now estranged from all of us apart from my aunt who maintains tenuous contact.

    • Saartjie says:

      Only tangentially related – I never got along particularly well with my grandmother, and years ago my mother hinted that I once bit her when she was babysitting, and that may have been when things got frosty, lol

    • Anners says:

      These are some great stories! I kinda feel a bit of sympathy for William (!)… I was the shy older sister of a very charming and adorable little brother that the whole world adored. Sometimes it was hard as a kid to understand why people didn’t feel the same about me. It would’ve been easy to resent him, but I adored him too. Also my parents loved us both and weren’t (too) emotionally stunted, so I outgrew that competitive feeling fairly quickly. I do wonder if William would’ve managed to outgrow it, too, if Diana had been with him just a bit longer. But it’s ridiculous to carry that burden of hate and competition well into adulthood. Figure yourself out and make the best of what *you* have.

      • LaraK says:

        My kids are a little like that – my daughter is a little more reserved, super smart and a little snarky (my pride and joy – she’s coming along nicely).
        My son is super charismatic, very adorable, and just naturally outgoing. Everyone in the school yard seems to know him.
        So I’m trying deliberately to balance things out.
        So far so good, my kids love each other, and my daughter is very confident. But I think the possibility was definitely there to have them be jealous and resentful because they are so different.

        I think William really would have benefited from someone supporting him to find what he is good at, instead of just propping him up for being future king. He has no personality outside this place in line for the throne. It’s kinda sad.

      • swirlmamad says:

        We will never know, but I can only imagine that William’s outlook and life would’ve veered onto more of a positive track had Diana lived and been able to help shape and influence him a bit longer. She died smack in the beginning/middle of his formative years, and it’s not a coincidence that a lot of his tendencies are immature, as if he froze at the age when he lost his mother in some ways. I don’t really feel sorry for him though because Harry lost his mom the same exact way he did, but his temperament helped push him in a different direction. Will could TRY to be better, but he’s got it solidly in his head that he’s the heir and perfect, so he refuses to do any introspection. Some things just can’t be helped and are preordained, but having Diana in his life would’ve been the constant push he needed to at least try to be better. He never had a chance once Charles was the only “nurturing” parent left.

      • JT says:

        Diana passed when William was 15. How much longer could he have outgrown his destructive jealousy? Because that’s what it is, destructive. This man waged a nationwide smear campaign against his own brother. He, along with Knauf, bought bots in order to further a very racist and violent agenda. And going by his completely awful statement gaslighting the very real campaign against his own mother, I doubt he would’ve changed had she lived. He was very mean to her when she was alive and shoving your mother is not your normal teenaged angst and rebellion.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Sorry for William? He was raised being praised by everyone, while it has been shown even some of the nannies were abusing Harry because he was ‘the spare’. That Harry turned out charismatic and likeable is somewhat amazing, given how awfully he was treated by many around him – esp his older brother.

      • Anners says:

        Ya, I can feel some sympathy for a bully. I think he lost his mum at a really difficult age and, because of his future role, I’m not sure he got the course correction and guidance that would’ve helped him overcome his personality weaknesses. I can feel sorry for someone and think they may have had a chance to be better if the circumstances were different and in no way excuse their current behaviour. I’m complicated like that ;)

      • Emmitt says:

        Prince Philip also lost his parents at a young age and even though he was problematic, he wasn’t running smear campaigns on his siblings either.

    • Finny says:

      I somewhat can relate to that. I’m the oldest of 5 kids. I was always reserved and not very outgoing compare to my 2year younger sister. She was the pretty, charming and fun one. It’s hard when you hear constantly from family members and others (not from my parents I have to point out) why can’t you be like your sister. She was doted and fawned on by everybody. Of course that made me even more withdrawn knowing I could never live up to her. Growing up there was a time when I disliked, I never hated her, my sister very much. Especially in the teenage years when you struggle with self image anyway. When I was 18 I moved away from my hometown, started my own live and I got a different perspective about all this. It really wasn’t her fault. She is not to blame for the words and reactions/actions of others. I outgrew my resentment and jealousy and we became very close. I also have to point out that my parents and sister were always very supportive of me and that helped a lot. She never rubbed my nose in it that she was more popular than me. I live in the states for 23 years (my whole family is in Germany) and I’m very close with all my siblings but especially with this sister. We call and facetime each other on a regular basis. I love her to bits. :)

      • waitwhat says:

        what a lovely post. your sister is lucky to have you in her life.

      • Christine says:

        Agreed! After years of this nonsense with Wills, I am so happy to see kids grow into fully formed and lovely adults who actually LIKE each other, as well as love each other.

  6. Abena Asantewaa says:

    There! As clear as rain! We knew it. Ken Wharfe also wrote in his book, that William often hid things, and when Diana could not find them, he would blame Harry for taking them. According to Ken Wharfe, William was not frendily to staff, but Harry would come into his room and say; right Ken let’s fight; for some rough and tumble. The Nannies liked Harry better. No wonder they all want Harry back!

  7. DellT says:

    Typical Cain v Abel. Its clear William really fed into the whole “GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE” thing, and Harry saw THROUGH it, as his mother did, realizing an organic, happy life would be better. It must tear at William every single day that Harry wakes up in sunny California (a brit’s dream) free of the constraints of the monarchy.

  8. Merricat says:

    It’s tantamount to abuse, what the rf does to their children.
    Just in terms of birth order, the firstborn seems to be more serious and carries more responsibility, with the second or middle child being more of an entertainer. Being royal turns up the whole thing to eleven, I think.
    Weirdly, I am starting to feel kind of sorry for William. Doesn’t excuse his adult behavior, though.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Seems to me it is the BRF that has the most problems with heirs and spares. The other European Royal Families do not seem to have this problem or if they do it is not as bad as the problem is better managed.

      • Merricat says:


      • ennie says:

        They are so much up their *sses, they were the empire where the sun never sets. They fancy themselves better than other monarchies. The only worse ones are those not in Europe, like Japan or some South Asian-Middle East countries that seem to treat women worse while giving males a lot of freedom. Japan’s might be the worse for both genders because it looks so constrictive, but at the same time in all of those the press seems to leave the royal families alone.
        I think press is good, scrutiny is not bad in anything government related, but in the UK the situation is absolutely ridiculous and unhealthy. It has gone beyond anything.
        The press is either lifting them up or tearing them down according to their own interests, and these are living people, children, even. It should not be allowed, no wonder they wanted out.

        Harry and Meghan (Harry especially) were willing to take the bet of living outside the bubble he was born in, with all the perks it might have had, and all because it got so bad for them.
        All other members of the royal family love it there, all of them are “in” in one way or the other, sucking at the royal teat. Some of them have had it better, but Harry was really too popular for that crab family.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Martha-Louise of Norway has been an issue for years, esp since her divorce from the late Ari Behn. And Spain has had to deal with the headaches of criminal Cristina and her sister Elena jumping the vaccination queue to visit their criminal dad in the UAE.

      • booboocita says:

        @ennie — Japan’s Imperial Household Agency is the BRF’s Men in Gray dialed all the way up to 16. They’re far more constrictive, and in my opinion more monstrous, than BP’s courtiers.

        The Japanese Empress, Masako, is a Harvard and Oxford-educated economist and diplomat who gave up a thriving career to marry Prince Naruhito (now Emperor). They have one child, a daughter, Aiko. Masako’s inability to produce a son and heir, and the astoundingly negative pressures of the Imperial Household Agency, has seen her hospitalized and out of the public eye for years at a time. If H & M had been members of the Japanese royal family, H probably never would have married M, and if he had, she’d have committed suicide a long time ago.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Eh, not always. My firstborn is absolutely the family extrovert — can and will talk to a brick wall, and definitely the entertainer. My younger one is more reserved and shy, but actually has a wicked sense of humor…but unless you know her well and she’s comfortable with you you don’t get to see it. But at the heart of their relationship, my older girl is protective of her younger sis as well as helps to pull her out of her shell which is a really nice dynamic.

      William and Harry never had that close sibling relationship as far as William helping and guiding Harry because from the get-go William was indoctrinated into thinking he was superior to Harry, and so the jealousy and resentment was allowed to flourish and run rampant. Diana could only do so much as one person trying to shape their dynamic — she was being undermined by all sides to pit the brothers as heir and spare.

      • Snuffles says:

        I’m one of 3 siblings. The youngest and the only girl. The oldest is pure extrovert. Always wanted to be outside playing as a kid and be out and about socializing and partying as an adult. The middle child was more serious and reserved with an oddball personality and oddball friends. I would say he’s an ambivert because he was just as comfortable doing solitary activities as he was hanging out with his oddball group of friends and clubbing. I’m pure introvert, usually with a smaller group of friends you could count on one hand and a VERY rich inner world.

        So, I don’t think birth order defines personality.

      • Ginger says:

        William and Harry were not as close as the media made them out to be. Even Harry said that when he started at Eton, he thought William would be there for him but William acted like he didn’t even know him. Left Harry to himself. Harry really didn’t have anyone after Diana died. His father and brother both ignored him.

        No amount of propping up by the UK media will make William more popular. Everyone just likes Harry better. He is kind, intelligent, charming, compassionate and way better looking. I have seen SO many stories on twitter regarding how kind Harry is by people that have served with him in the military and by people who have worked with him. I have not seen any on William.

  9. My3cents says:

    He really needs to get a job.
    Maybe if he actually worked he wouldn’t have time to be so obsessed with his brother and his family.

    • Eurydice says:

      Sadly, his only real job is to be king…someday…

    • MF1 says:

      Seriously. Most of us don’t have time to think about the negative feelings we have towards our siblings. We’re too busy working, caring for family, having responsibilities and living life. The only reason Elegant Bill is stewing over Harry’s popularity is because he’s got nothing better to do. To quote our worst president: Sad!

  10. Amy Bee says:

    William probably was incandescent with rage after engagements with Harry.

  11. swaz says:

    I really don’t think the brothers were as close as the public thinks. There is so much tension in all the above photos, no kindness or tenderness.

    • February-Pisces says:

      If royals are shipped off to boarding school at 11 then technically Willie and harry haven’t properly lived together since 1993. That was a very Very long time ago. The press used to make out that Willie, keen and harry all happily lived in each other’s pockets.

      • Ginger says:

        Harry said in the docu series that he was most depressed from ages 28-32. So it started in 2012 and that was when he first had to do his engagements with W&K. And it lasted until 2016, when he met Meghan. He clearly hated being a third wheel to those two.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They’re shipped off at 8.

      • Jais says:

        Cannot imagine shipping kids to boarding school at 8 years old. Don’t think i understand boarding schools.

      • February-Pisces says:

        Shipping them off at 8 years old is even worse. That would mean William and Harry haven’t technically lived together since 1990. But of course they were ‘joined at the hip’ before ‘meanie meghan’ broke them up,

      • notasugarhere says:

        We’ve discussed before the idea that maybe they wouldn’t send their kids away to boarding school. Not out of care of the kids, but as an excuse to keep their very low work schedules.

  12. ennie says:

    I hadn’t really paid attention to Harry in that last pic. I knew he noticed what happened, but he really looks line he’s holding back his anger. Good for them for leaving. If they had been left alone in a better way, and not set their dogs on Meghan, things between them would be so much better, but this is a firm, not a family.

  13. lanne says:

    What can be expected when a person is raised to believe that he is more important than anyone, is coddled, his mistakes covered up, is never allowed to fail, is never given opportunity to do anything on his own, never has to learn how to manage his own emotions? You get an entitled, selfish, self absorbed monster. I wouldn’t be surprised if William and Charles cannot fully comprehend why Harry left. In their world, everything revolves around their wishes and desires. Queen Victoria was known to be a nasty, selfish, petty woman. Queen Elizabeth is likely the same. Why would Charles or William be otherwise? Why should George? The difference now is that the royals bad habits cannot be completely hidden anymore. Before Elizabeth, royals were rarely seen by the public. Even Elizabeth was only seen in small bites on television. But Williams lack of charisma, nasty “jokes”, and petulance can’t be completely hidden in the days of camera phones. His current popularity with the public comes from a carefully managed media campaign that hides his bad behavior as much as possible. His appearances are carefully managed as well. But the ratchets and the grey men can’t hide Williams unpleasant qualities forever. What happens when William shows that incandescent anger in public? The media will try to cover it up, but in the era of smartphones, it will make the rounds on social media. What’s to stop someone from asking William about Meghan during a press conference?

  14. Margaret says:

    I don’t feel sorry for TOB, he is almost 40 years old, and still incandescent with rage, hateful as all get out.
    He is still actively, along with daddio, to destroy the Sussexes and demean their children. He needs to let go the hate and worry about his own family.
    Until they stop the attacks through insider anonymous sources leaks, and the carnival of so called royal experts. I personally have nothing for him. He needs to get over it.

    • Thirtynine says:

      I don’t blame the BRF. It’s clear from the earliest eyewitness stories that William has always been like this. This is who he is. He just has the media of a whole nation covering for him.

  15. Lizzie says:

    Sly little boy sums it up nicely. Prince Elegant is a jealous person and they are always on the look out for anyone who possesses something that they do not. What a miserable life that must be, to spend your life always scanning for someone with something better and how you can take it for yourself. Actually sounds a lot like trump.

    • Lady D says:

      He sounds like Queen Mary (I think), a queen who if she saw something in your home that she liked, had to have it by any means. She would beg, hound, constantly request and even flat out steal some items. Willie sounds like more of the same.

      • notasugarhere says:

        To me he’s the Duke of Windsor reborn. 88 years and 2 days apart. Feckless, jealous, lazy, pinchpenny, selfish.

      • Nic919 says:

        I also see the similarities to the Duke of Windsor. They were born too close to the line of succession but far enough that they didn’t need to learn how to do anything. And they both married women who brought out their worst qualities and who wanted the position to climb higher into society.

  16. Ariel says:

    This seems to be part of the Windsor’s generational trauma that they pass down.
    I can only go by the Crown, but Elizabeth seemed constantly irritated Margaret was more charismatic and fun, and people liked her more.
    And she seemed to not particularly like her first two children, knowing that charles would one day replace her.
    Perhaps that is why she preferred the second set, and pervy Andrew is her favorite.

    Elizabeth and Charles and William hate for anyone to outshine them, and believe that their birthright (of the monarchy) also entitles them to be the center of attention, and for people to adore them and hang on their every word to the detriment of all others.
    And when that doesn’t happen, they are really upset, disgruntled- because to them, they are the center of the universe and that is how it should and ought to be.
    What a family.

    • Deering24 says:

      They’ve been taught that The Firm (and maintaining it) is all there is to life. Harry was smart and lucky enough to discover otherwise. The Family Empire As Everything is a major reason so many rich families are screwed up.

    • Truthiness says:

      I hate to defend her but I have never seen QEll bothered about other people in the spotlight. Charles and William yes, x 1,000,000. She did not know her eventual destiny until her uncle abdicated and that may have made a big difference. Charles, Diana and Andrew (in the 80s only) all stole the spotlight in their prime and Charles’ 2 sons steal it now.

  17. Harper says:

    Those polls that listed Harry as most popular, right under the Queen, have to have made Prince Elegant incandescent, and those were all taken and publicized well before Meghan came along. Once Meghan arrived, TOB must have felt outnumbered. Now there were two charismatic, popular Royals making a splash. I really think after the Oceania tour William set out to secretly have a little fun at their expense by releasing negative stories about Meghan, and then he couldn’t stop. The scheming that TOB must have engaged in while deciding what tidbit of negativity about Meghan he would release next, and when he would time it, must have satisfied him immensely in a twisted, warped, evil way. Maybe he laughed about it at the table with the Middletons and CarolE wanted to help and she went off to Tominey with the Meghan made Kate cry story. Whatever went on behind the scenes was organized and there had to be a certain, addictive, enjoyable energy to it on Willbert’s end. I mean, he hired an entire empty plane to stick it to Harry. It’s really sad how out of control he was in taking down his brother’s wife.

    • MsIam says:

      Pity for him it didn’t work. He drove Harry and Meghan out of the UK and into the world. Stupid William, Charles and Kate should have found a way to work together with The Sussexes.

    • Betsy says:

      I agree with you. Hiring an empty plane is next level crazy, but leaking stories (invented ones, to boot!) is just unforgivable.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Very much the behavior of a sly, spoilt and arrogant boy who hasn’t grown up or recognized the need to change.

  18. Digital Unicorn says:

    The sibling jealousy that William has for Harry has always been known. You can also say the same about Kate and Pippa – Pippa was always the more popular and outgoing to the 2 sisters. She was more accepted by the aristo’s than Kate who was seen as cold – Pippa certainly found it easier to make friends with those types of people than Kate was. They are also quite competitive with each other as well.

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  20. Noor says:

    William basically had an extended adolescence years well into his thirties. It was not until 2018 with the emergence of Meghan that push William and Kate to become more hardworking royals. Remember William was a part-time flying ambulance helicopter and doing as few royal engagements as possible just to get by.

  21. Myra says:

    The only way he could get people to like him better was through waging a four-year disinformation and smear campaign against his younger brother.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He’s run a 2+ decade disinformation and smear campaign against his younger brother, while he’s also run a four year campaign against the love of his brother’s life.

      • Nan says:

        notasugarhere: YES – thank you – it’s particularly abusive that he goes after what Harry cherishes the most, which is his own wife and family.

  22. jferber says:

    Ah, so the jealousy is long-standing. Makes sense. Sibling rivalry. Now that he is a full-grown man, wouldn’t it be better to be the best HE can be instead of embiggening himself by grinding down his brother? A real king would choose the better path. Do that, William. It’s not too late.

    • MsIam says:

      He’s too lazy to make the effort. It’s easier to sic his minions in the press and the palace on Harry and Meghan. And the Middletons, who I believe are a quasi crime family, help enable him too.

  23. Ihatestupidpeople says:

    It’s ok to be reserved and shy. We need to be careful not to attach negative connotation to people who are like this naturally. It’s hard to be the quiet kid who struggles socially and to have a brother who naturally excels in such situations. Unfortunately these boys had no one to help guide them and nurture them and help with these feelings. Now as adults you can see how it all turned out. Harry was able to overcome his childhood trauma and William has not. I’m not excusing his behavior just analyzing it really.

    • notasugarhere says:

      William isn’t reserved and shy, just as Kate isn’t reserved or shy. He’s selfish, boorish, jockular, racist, and loves to be the centre of attention.

      • SnoodleDumpling says:

        True, the real issue for them seems to be that they want the attention to be entirely on their own terms and only when they say so.

        So, basically, once again they accuse the Sussexes of precisely what they themselves are guilty of. It’s like they are seriously trying to steal Harry and Meghan’s personalities and lives and shove the dud ones they got into Harry and Meghan’s hands.

      • Cisne says:

        nail on the head!!!

      • akdash47 says:

        “It’s like they are seriously trying to steal Harry and Meghan’s personalities and lives and shove the dud ones they got into Harry and Meghan’s hands.”

        Yup. Just like… wait for it…


    • Sofia says:

      A terrible childhood is not justification for being a terrible adult. It explains your behaviour but again, doesn’t justify it.

      And William isn’t shy or reserved. He’s just a dick.

    • Lady D says:

      LOL at your username. It would make a great T-shirt.

    • Lizzie says:

      The comment was prince elegant was sly, not shy. Nice sermon though.
      Prince William “was always a sly little boy, and now he’s become arrogant and spoilt. I hear from people who work for William that he can be very difficult.”

  24. Robin says:

    If someone ever asked me for a visual interpretation of self righteous bitterness, I’d point them in the direction of that photo of Kate at the commonwealth service.

  25. Over it says:

    Being jealous and angry and incandescent with rage all the time has really sucked Baldemort of whatever looks he might have had . Let it go willy, let it go

  26. Well Wisher says:

    There is an old saying that indicate thought lead to action, action to habit, habit to destiny. Many of us have been warned to be mindful of our thoughts, because it will be revealed on your face.
    He has become the product of his thoughts, in this case, the relentless comparison to his brother. Harry was more self aware and in touch with his innate abilities that Bill was, all he needed to do is find out all his natural abilities, find his joy while preparing for his future role. It is sheer stupidity to compare oneself to another person who did work in his personal growth and development. Whilst Harry being human, had his difficulties, he never stop thriving to be a better version of himself.
    Consequently, he knew what he wanted and was prepared to do the work in his personal life and public life. Unfortunately for spoilt Bill, he was chosen, had he been accepted by any of the women he loved, he would have had an impetus to do the necessary work to keep the relationship.
    He seemed to be stunted developmentally and he lacks any empathy and boundaries.

    This latest feud is about being able to control his brother and has dark implications as he tried to control him via his choice of wife, access to titles/names for his brother’s children, etc., in other words his brother’s happiness.
    Bill lost me when he unsuccessfully tried to bully his brother to accept the RR despite their odious effect on Meghan because he needed to ‘win’ even if it meant briefing via intermediaries in the mode of extended family and staff. All the while expecting Harry to bear it all silently. Harry has to strip himself of his autonomy and loose his voice so he can feel good about himself.
    It is telling that Harry chose the only possible option that of self love – love of his family. That explains his lack of bitterness and ongoing healing.
    It would not be surprising that the rest of the RF is acutely aware of the situation and seem unable to find a remedy.
    Every religion warns against envy for a good reason.

    • Nic919 says:

      This is a good lead up to the Lacey excerpt which I am sure will be discussed on Monday. William is a pretty despicable character in both excerpts. Really scary that he’s in line to be monarch because there were never stories of Charles acting like this or the Queen.

      • Tessa says:

        And Kate comes out looking bad since according to the Lacey update, claimed Meghan had an “agenda” and expressed her concern to William. Odd coming from someone who had an agenda since she left the University of her choice to enroll at St. Andrew’s.

      • Nic919 says:

        Well we all know Kate was threatened by Meghan from day one, even being a snot when she refused to give her a ride to the mall. Kate’s one talent is assessing women who can threaten her position and make her look like the lazy air head she is.

  27. Likeyoucare says:

    If this is remade to be an american movie, willie will be gunning and kill innocent people in 5minutes after the movie started.

  28. Nina says:

    When you look at pictures of Meghan at the commonwealth service, the term “grace under fire” comes to mind. Harry was showing his fury and emotions but Meghan acted with dignity and class.
    It really must have pissed them off. They had thrown everything and the kitchen sink at her and here she was still standing. And worse, she has managed to take away their scapegoat and whipping boy.

    • Curious says:

      at that event. Meghan was all smiles and she looks happy.cause she was leaving these fools. nothing they did was going to take away her joy of leaving.. they all looked like they was sucking on lemons. while Meghan was all smiles, she kept her smile all through it . they meant nothing to her. After what she been through not a chance in hell she would allowed them to kill her personality. she got her power back by staying in canada .

  29. Well Wisher says:

    I suspect that Bill was given a demotion. It explains Uncle Gary’s interviews, the new book, and the push by the Times to make him a ‘statesman’ by inserting him in the discussion in and about Scotland. That backfired when the Times announced that the Cambridges intention to spend more time there to save it. There were immediate calls for a referendum. The response was to tell the press that Harry did not ask for permission to use the Queens name for his daughter whereas an oral agreement would have sufficed.
    The rope has ended until further notice.

    • Curious says:

      William/ Catherine are being pushed to do things and none of them have the brain to do anything. the aides write them speeches and such , people dress them, and they still fail. can’t even see William doing the queen job. how will William meet with the PM in person once a week or a month . the guy does not have a clue of anything. but reading written speeches by those that are more smart than him. and he still fails. maybe he lost his brain cells when he was hit by a golf club on the head and it cracked his skull. he had a 72 mins operation and Diana was with him. Charles visited him late, but left cause he had an event to attend. these 2 have nothing they have done to their name. so they soon 40 yrs old and the courtiers want something to be attached to their name.other than that they are useless .

      • LMR says:

        I’m sorry I must be misunderstanding you. It almost sounds like you said that when Wills was young, he had a skull fracture from being hit with a golf ball but Charles did not stay for the entire surgery because he had an event. Are you f-ing kidding me?

    • swirlmamad says:

      @LMR, I found and posted this awhile back on a different post regarding this subject. Really eye-opening read:

      • LMR says:

        Oh. My. God. Thank you for posting that link, Swirlmamad. Simply horrifying.

        It should be re-published (worldwide) every Fathers Day.

  30. Shannon says:

    Wow…I guess that “diversity czar” decided continual conflict is best to resolving problems. Or, just trash them until the bin is emptied, either way it’s a win.

    These ppl are amateurs.