Lacey: The Cambridges ‘saw no point in talking to Harry’ after Philip’s funeral

Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh at Windsor

Whew, Robert Lacey is just going to allow the Times of London to publish all of the “new chapters” from Battle of Brothers, I guess. The book was published last year to a lot of hype because Lacey is one of the more respected royal-historian types. He’s not some royal commentator who gets paid to be in the Keens’ pocket. The original 2020 Battle of Brothers had some significant shade for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, although I think it was clear, even then, that Lacey relies heavily on skewed royal storylines from the Rota reporters. Still, you could tell that Lacey had pissed off Kensington Palace last year because after the first mega-hyped excerpts about the Sussexes, few outlets covered Lacey’s shady takes on William and Kate. I think the same thing will happen this week – people only want to pay attention to the “unhinged sociopath” sh-t coming from Camp Keen, and they won’t pay attention to the other stuff. Stuff like… the Windsors were incandescent with rage at Prince Harry when he attended Philip’s funeral. Some highlights:

No words for Harry: But family anger ran deep. It was not by accident that neither Anne nor Sophie exchanged a public word with Harry in the course of the afternoon. People felt incensed by what they saw as the calculated and focused cruelty of the TV interview and by the hypocrisy of Meghan — relating so brightly to Oprah how she had phoned the Queen to show her concern about Philip’s condition without even considering, apparently, the impact that their televised catalogue of grievance might have upon the invalid’s morale and health.

The mess with the Sussexes’ wreath. The Dean of Windsor was just addressing the final commendation to the congregation in the chapel when journalists’ phones started to “ping”. Timed at 15.39 BST (British Summer Time), just before the end of the funeral service, it was a tweet from Omid Scobie, the royal editor for Harper’s Bazaar and the co-author of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex biography Finding Freedom, passing on Harper’s Bazaar’s 15.35 report on the “sentimental tribute” from the Sussexes “to the late Prince Philip at his funeral today”. The Sussexes’ wreath could be seen at that moment leaning among the other eight simple white and green family tributes in St George’s Chapel propped against the stalls on either side of the duke’s coffin, and it had already attracted some attention on account of its unconventional and rather autumnal pinkish-brown flowers

The press release about the wreath was over-the-top: There had been no press release about any of the other family tributes. They were all “private”, explained Buckingham Palace aides, declining to provide any details. Only the Queen’s funeral wreath had been a matter of some restrained disclosure – “white blooms including lilies, roses, freesia and sweet peas”. These had all been chosen personally by the Queen to be placed on top of her husband’s coffin, together with a concealed handwritten card that was thought to bear the childhood name by which he fondly called her — “Lilibet”.

The post-funeral reconciliation that wasn’t: Harry, for his part, proudly showed around snaps of Archie on his mobile phone, then later let it be known via the ever helpful Scobie that he had seen the Queen twice before he got back on the plane to California on Monday. His grandmother liked to walk her dogs in the grounds of Frogmore House, so it seemed likely that he had joined her there.

The Cambridges leaked that they didn’t like Harry’s leaks: Meanwhile, William and Kate, after saying goodbye to Charles, who headed to Wales where he had been mourning at his Llandovery estate, went back to Kensington Palace together to put the children to bed. They told friends that they could see no point in talking to Harry, since any discussion of substance would go straight back to Meghan to be leaked out via Oprah or some other tentacle of the Sussex network that had not stopped spreading stories in the weeks since the interview that the couple’s friends had promised would be their final word.

[From The Times of London]

I can’t believe Lacey missed the fact that not only did Meghan send out a detailed statement about the wreath, she also had her spokesperson confirm to media outlets that Meghan was watching at home, with extra information about Harry’s military service and Philip’s military service. As I said at the time…I think Meghan was over-the-top and extra with those statements. I know why she did it and I know that if Meghan had not issued those statements, the storyline would have been “rude pregnant Meghan hated Philip!” But the timing was bad. It’s okay to admit that, Sussex-defenders. People shouldn’t send out press releases during a funeral.

As for William and Kate telling friends “that they could see no point in talking to Harry, since any discussion of substance would go straight back to Meghan to be leaked out via Oprah or some other tentacle of the Sussex network…” LMAO. Y’all remember how the Cambridges would not STFU about Kate being the keenest linchpin peacemaker that entire f–king week? But how dare Harry tell Omid Scobie that his family was rude to him, right?

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  1. Neners says:

    The bitterness at Omid being the only British reporter who maintains contact with the Sussexes has me howling. The envy is REAL. Literally all he does is report without spin. That’s it. It would be so easy for all of them to have access if they actually knew what proper journalism is.

  2. Seraphina says:

    I am going to defend Meghan on the press release – for the only reason that this family CLEARLY made it about themselves when reports were being made that Willy Wonka did not want to walk with his brother at the funeral – their own grandfather’s no less. Had they really wanted peace, quiet and respect for the dead for this occasion they would have made the FFK suck it up and do his duty as a grown man, a FFK, a grandson and a brother. So I give Meghan a pass.

    • taris says:

      it’s easy to criticise meghan about the timing of this or that, but are we really going to pretend that anything those two do – whatever the ‘timing’ – isn’t going to get them ripped to shreds anyway? when exactly would have been the right time to put out a statement? if the statement had come out before the funeral, the experts would have spent days and days mercilessly scrutinising it and her. and the week of that funeral there was sooo much misinformation coming at them from all sides, can they really be blamed for needing to get their story out via a fair, factual reporter?

      btw, omid has an even bigger target on his back now. poor guy. i actually trust him and his reporting a thousand times more than these other grifters.

      • Myra says:

        Plus, the media don’t have to read it during the funeral if they believe it is inappropriate. They can read it afterwards. Usually, press releases go out before the event so that it can be mentioned during the event. Did anyone even watch the funeral in any case?

      • Harper says:

        Harper’s Bazaar via Omid Scobie released the wreath information before the end of the funeral, not Meghan. Omid could have held off until the end of the service before tweeting and he did Meghan no favors with his rush to release the info. Since the wreath was most likely ordered days before the service, Harper’s most likely already had the details. We don’t know that Meghan didn’t ask that the details be held until after the service and Omid jumped the gun but this is not on her. Since Meghan couldn’t be there and the wreath contained flowers chosen for sentimental reasons, there was nothing over the top in sending out a release to describe it.

      • MsIam says:

        Y’all Omid has bosses that he has to work for. Harper’s Bazaar wanted to get the scoop. I’m not sure what Lacey’s point is here other than to say that Omid speaks to the Sussexes or their spokespeople. We know the other royals or their surrogates do too. And just because someone is pissed at what you did doesn’t mean you did something wrong. They could be pissed because they didn’t think to do it first.

  3. Lorelei says:

    Is Wreathgate going to be the new BullyingGate which was the new 16BathroomsGate which was the new MeghanMadeKateCryGate etc. etc.

    Robert Lacey needs a hobby

    • Miranda says:

      How could you neglect to mention Namegate? IT WAS THE ONE THING THE QUEEN HAD THAT WAS TRULY HER OWN.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Well…her and her HORSE (who is also named Lilibet).

        (Apparently, the name is fine for a thoroughbred horse, but NOT her biracial great-granddaughter).

      • Miranda says:

        Wow…I did not know that, but just…wow.

        Actually, I have a problem with that besides the obvious racist bullshit part: It’s an AWFUL name for a horse. It doesn’t fit at all! If you’re going to name your pet Lilibet, it should be a tiny dog or something. Lilibet would be a perfect name for like, a Yorkie. But not a damn horse!

      • Calibration says:

        I can imagine them saying, at least the horse was a thoroughbred. 🙄🙄

        It’s awful, I know, but they would.

      • Margaret says:

        So much folly, and nonsense, so little time.
        Strange that story, kate and William not speaking to harry, after the funeral. Well that made a lie of kate to the rescue and peace making. She was on harry like a cheap suit. Oh and the lip reader?. If there was no conversation, what and whos lips were she reading?. I am getting whip latch from all the twisting, and changing stories.

    • betsyh says:

      And why criticize the color of the flowers? (Pinkish brown flowers! How gauche!) How petty. Accept the tribute and move on.

  4. Miranda says:

    Yeahhh, turns out that “calculated and focused cruelty” kinda hurts, huh RF?

  5. Merricat says:

    The Cambridges become more Trumpian every day.

    • Chica71 says:

      Umm doesn’t this account blows up Kate’s role as diplomat to brothers. Her embiggening and importance in mending Harry and Wills relationship is crucial. There are too many competing and contradictory narratives from KP and Buckleburry.

      • Nina says:

        +1. Then what were the attempts to talk to him leaving the funeral. Why wait for him and walk with him. That confirms that it was again just a photo op. Do these people remember their crap? He made no attempt to talk to them or did their attempt to talk to him not go as they planned… hmmm curious minds want to know

      • JT says:

        @Nina I think it was the latter. Their attempts to talk to him didn’t go as planned. It’s just like how William made a big deal about calling Harry and Harry was like, “it was unproductive”. This new version is just spin because at the time the press made such a big deal about the peacemaking tomfoolery, now they didn’t even talk? They remember there was video right? Somebody said something.

      • Harper says:

        Prince Mad Again and Lynchpin of Peace are so right. Harry rushed back and told it all to his tentacle friends. Oprah’s hour-long special report: The Walk Up The Hill at Windsor: Words of Reconciliation and Remorse, was riveting. IIRC, it went something like, “Hey, Harry.” “Hey, Kate.” “Hey, Will.” “I guess we’re not taking the cars back.” “No, we’re walking up the hill.” “Okay.” “Yes.” “Poor Grandpop.” “Yes, he’s at peace now.” “He had a good run.” “Yes.” “Kate, go away.” “Yeah, beat it.” “Okay, I got my photo op in any way.” “Granny looks good.” “Yes, she’s so strong.” “She is.” “Bye.” “Later.”

      • Lucy says:

        This goes a step further than saying Kate wasn’t the bestest pacemaker ever. William’s “friend” (who I think is name Shwilliam Shamebridge) wants us to know Harry tried showing pictures of his stupid kid that no one wanted to see, the wreath was super weird and gauche, and no one ever like you anyway, HARRY.
        I mean, I think Lackeys (typo and it stays) got one source here that sounds unhinged.

      • Lemons says:

        I think the heirs really feel like we want to hear about their every move, but others aren’t allowed to contradict their narrative. It’s just a part of being a future king! Sorry guys, we won’t want to hear if you spoke with your little brother and his wife. So don’t leak it. This way, other parties won’t feel like they need to correct the account.

        They are always leaking first.

  6. Eurydice says:

    They see no point in talking to Harry because they don’t want him back. All the rest is just blah, blah, blah.

    And when was Harry proudly showing around snaps of Archie after the funeral?

    • taris says:

      ‘leaking’ to the press about *private* family conversations is apparently okay if your name’s not henry

      • Lady Digby says:

        Oh the irony of his disclosure via Will’s BF reporting at length Cambridge version of events to Mr Lacey that results in 12 additional chapters of his paperback. So its okay for Will never complain never explain to authorise an intermediary to dish the gossip but not for Harry to honestly own his truth?

  7. Oshin says:

    “ they could see no point in talking to Harry, since any discussion of substance would go straight back to Meghan to be leaked out via Oprah”. TOB outed himself that he was the one that was questioning Archie skin tone.

    • JT says:

      It just seems like they are mad that Harry has a wider reach than they do. If they mean something. It pretty much stays on that island with their unhinged reporters and the ridiculous rota. Harry has the American media, which has greater influence and is more credible. It’s the same with Omid; people take what he has to say seriously because he doesn’t sound like an obsessed psycho. The Keens have the likes of Piers Morgan and Wootton, who nobody really gives a damn about.

    • ABritGuest says:

      They can’t trust Harry not to leak so they decided to leak fact they didn’t speak to him to Robert Lacey? Make it make sense. The Sunday Times reported that there had been a call in the first place which obviously came from the palace & then Gayle reported the next day that it hadn’t been productive& nobody had spoken to Meghan. The royal family& the press do so much projection for their own actions as far as Harry & Meghan are concerned.

      Huffington post was the first to report on the wreath I believe so think it’s royal reporter just asked Meghan& Harry’s office. I do think the slander they have experienced causes them to over explain sometimes (eg I don’t think their office should answer about if they have sent sent well wishes to royal family members for their anniversaries especially since nobody asks when it comes to the Sussexes anniversary etc) but Meghan faced some really unfair criticism for not being able to attend Philip’s funeral so perhaps that’s why they gave out those details.

      So guess that whole Kate the peacemaker thing was just for the cameras? Imagine my surprise

      • BnlurNforever says:

        The thing that gets me are the people who read this and can’t or won’t consider, wait a minute the royals are briefing the press about personal family conversations, while complaining about the Sussexes briefing about personal family conversations. Anything to continue hating Meghan I guess.

  8. Cecilia says:

    Welp. There goes kate the peacemaker pr.

    • Eurydice says:

      It’s not her fault – it’s all those Sussex tentacles.

    • Merricat says:

      Lol

    • Ginger says:

      Seriously. What about the supposed text Harry sent Kate? What about Kate wanting to be a peacemaker and clearly hung back to wait for Harry? Kate was hyping to be THE peacemaker for a week.

      • Cecilia says:

        Its being hyped up again as reports float that kate is going to the statue unveiling (of course she is). And will act as an intermediary between harry and TOB

    • Jais says:

      Think this might be the case of the dueling PR between Kate and William. Kate has been putting out that she is the peacemaker through Tominey and Nichols but it seems that “William’s friend” is going to Lacey with a different version. William does not seem to be about promoting Kate as the peacemaker and this account does make her, or at least her PR, seem like a liar. So William is purposely undercutting his wife with this version which is interesting. It purposely spotlights the fake way in which Kate only spoke to Harry in front of the cameras but not in private.
      @cecilia- so if it’s being floated that Kate will be at the statue unveiling, is it coming from her camp? And if she does show up, would that indicate that she can override what William wants if he didn’t actually want her there.

    • Eating Popcorn says:

      So… if someone (Willi leaks) is leaking to the press that he did not speak to Harry & Kate did not act as embiggened Keen Peace Maker Kate… does this mean that Willi leaks is beginning to do away with Kate’s PR machine – is this divorce pr prep?

      • Cecilia says:

        @jais: the story that kate would be going came from russel meyers. The story that she wouldn’t show at the statue unveiling came from tominey. Tominey is clearly a middleton mouth piece so at the time i thought it weird that she was the one reporting on it.

        My guess: the “not going” version was to try and create some buzz around kate. The same way people always wonder if meghan is going to be in attendance. That didn’t work so now of course she’s going. And she’s going to play peacemaker between the brothers.

  9. Amy Bee says:

    It’s obvious Lacey went to KP for their side of the story so how come the press is not angry with William and Kate for working with him on the book? Although the aim of the book is to attack Harry and Meghan it exposed KP’s bullying and mistreatment of Meghan, exposed Sophie as a liar, and showed that Kate was not the peacemaker

    • equality says:

      I hadn’t thought about that but Sophie did claim to speak with Harry so somebody’s lying but not necessarily Sophie.

    • Becks1 says:

      Well, this article says that Sophie did not exchange a PUBLIC word with Harry, but I also did not see Sophie or Anne exchange a public word with William or Charles etc. It was a funeral procession.

  10. equality says:

    How does anybody know when H&M sent out a press release? This is only coming from a bunch of liars so it could have been sent out before the funeral and reporting was delayed to start a controversy. Same way nobody knows what was sent out about other family members sending wreaths. Maybe they did and nobody cared enough to report. I would think after the fact and the wreaths had all been seen there would have been at least speculation about other’s wreaths but that wouldn’t have gotten the clicks. This also shoots down Kate as “peacemaker” because you can’t make peace and discuss nothing. So why was she practically drooling to talk to Harry while being televised? As H&M said, nothing with these people is what it seems.

    • MsIam says:

      So what if journalists were notified during the funeral, why would that bother the family? I don’t get this faux outrage about when the press release went out and why that would upset the family? This whole thing sounds stupid and petty especially since there was a press release sent out about Kate’s necklace. I think the only ones upset were William and Kate.

  11. Sofia says:

    I think it’s beyond obvious that KP have gone to Lacey to put “their side of the story” out there. He’s a establishment historian and works on The Crown so if the show ever does go into the current era 10+ years later or so, KP are trying to make sure it’s “their” version of events that get out.

    And does no-one in the press notice the irony of William complaining about leaking… as he’s leaking?

    • Becks1 says:

      I can’t even with the complaining about leaking. First, Harry does not leak. Harry says it with his whole chest. Harry did not “leak” to Gayle King, Harry told Gayle King that he talked to his father and brother. That’s not leaking.

      Leaking is authorizing a friend to talk to a historian about how much you hated Meghan or how much Meghan hurt the poor little workers at KP. Leaking is letting a “palace source” run to BBC to talk about how much the queen hates that they used the name Lilibet. And so on.

      Team Sussex is not the one leaking here.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “And does no-one in the press notice the irony of William complaining about leaking… as he’s leaking?”

      What I find ironic is that Robert Lacey works on the crown for Netflix but yet KP goes to Robert Lacey to leak information and provide background briefings.

      Did not KP say something crazy or some twisted nonsense along the lines that the Sussexes should cancel their Netflix deal because of “The Crown” due to profits being made by Netflix from “The Crown” would be used by Netflix to pay the Sussexes? I took this twisted nonsense to mean that KP was accusing the Sussexes of directly profiting off “The Crown”.

      I know I read all this somewhere (Daily Fail????). I hope my mind is not playing tricks on me.

      Again, I must ask: If Robert Lacey works for “The Crown” and/or Netflix, why would KP go to him for anything?

  12. Eleonor says:

    Kate looked amazing in the car that day.
    That’s all I am going to say.

    • JT says:

      I still don’t get the hoopla around her look that day. I said I thought time she looked like a contemporary of Camilla and I still think that stands. She looked really dated to me and it’s wasn’t really any different from Kate’s typical coat dress look.

    • Nic919 says:

      Her posing during the entire process was classless. She made a funeral about her. No one else has posed photos like that either in the car or the procession.

    • Lara says:

      She looked like the white colonialist Karen that she is.

      • JT says:

        She didn’t look stylish to me and she certainly didn’t look modern and fresh. She looked old and stiff. But everyone here was like “oh she’s stunning”, and I’m like where? In contrast, I thought the York girls looked both chic and modern with their looks.

    • Merricat says:

      She looked like a character from “Clue.” At a family funeral. This is not a compliment.

      • Harper says:

        Yes. A villainess from a murder mystery determined to poison everyone’s tea and crumpets after the reading of the will.

      • Truthiness says:

        I thought she looked like a Bond villain, rocking an evil young dowager look. The type that is sent to seduce Bond and lead him to an ambush, or maybe even have a gang of criminal lovelies, like Pussy Galore.

    • notasugarhere says:

      You mean strategically posing for the friendly pap she had placed RightThere to catch that pic, then photoshop the hell out of it?

    • goofpuff says:

      The photos are heavily retouched and the pose intentional because she had a photographer of her own for that purpose. She doesn’t actually look like that.

    • Eurydice says:

      Her eye makeup is beautiful and the mask covers the rest of her face.

      • Jais says:

        Lol Eurydice! Literally thinking the same. For everyone saying she looked the best she ever has in that one car pic, a mask is literally covering half her face!!! That is not a great compliment. However, am also Kate’s age and would prefer most pics pics taken at a comfortable distance rather than a super close-up. I’d feel for her if she’d ever been publicly supportive of Meghan.

    • Lady D says:

      You know I have no use for Kate, but that is the best I’ve ever seen Kate look, hands down. I know it was a funeral, I know it was inappropriate, I know it was smoke and mirrors, I’ve seen the unphotoshopped pictures of her, I still think she looked stunning that day.

    • Margaret says:

      Well Eleanor, you do know it was all for harry. She will be dolled up for the unveiling, just watch. She wasn’t coming, until harry confirmed. Oh she will be there with Buttons galore. Notice she has been smiling like a jackal, recently.

      • booboocita says:

        But HAS Harry confirmed? I still haven’t seen anything from a Sussex spokesperson, a release from any of the palaces, or a statement Harry himself, saying that he’ll be there for sure. All I’ve seen is a lot of supposition and assumptions. Truth or wishful thinking?

    • Jaded says:

      A family funeral isn’t the time to show up looking like an overdone and over-bejeweled Morticia Addams. With a professional photog in tow.

    • Pinellas Pixie says:

      I think she looked beautiful in the car, too. I attribute it to the mask and the way it highlights her eyes. That’s about all I can say.

    • notasugarhere says:

      So classless to once again try to make an event, esp a solemn one, all about her, her looks, and her ugly fashion. Complete with her selected pap, specifically in that spot for her to pose. But that’s Kate for you.

  13. Jegede says:

    Shame on Lacey for propagating this narrative sans a critical eye.😡😡

    The same institution that happily leaked the most vile names about Meghan – Megain, Duchess Difficult, Degree Wife, Free Harry, are now fearing leaks from the Sussexes.

    • betsyh says:

      Exactly. Why didn’t he state the obvious—that the palace’s leaks from anonymous sources are just their form of a press release. Everyone knows this is what the palace does, so why not call them on it?

  14. Lauren says:

    I understood and still get why Meghan had a spokesperson confirm the bit about the wreath, but the timing of it was off, at least for me. What I truly find concerning is that Lacey in his book cites almost word for word what has been reported in some rags regarding the bullying investigations and those quotes seem to come directly from JK. If Meghan’s lawyers were to not only show that there was no bullying and that it was Meghan the one being undermined, harassed, and mistreated by her staff what would that mean for Lacey’s book? Could Meghan sue?

    • Jaded says:

      Under libel law she certainly could sue for defamation. She’s playing the long game though, she’ll wait until her lawyers have done a thorough investigation of the bullying charges, see what KP comes back with and drop her own receipts if necessary. Maybe she already shared them with her lawyers. Once it’s been proven that said bullying charges are fictitious, she can sic her legal team on Lacey because his book clearly, in the eyes of the law:

      - Exposed her to hatred, ridicule or contempt
      - Caused her to be shunned or avoided
      - Generally lowered her reputation in the eyes of society
      - Discredited her in her trade, business or profession

      • MsIam says:

        I think his defense will be that he is just repeating information that has already been printed. That’s why its just a rehash of what the tabloids say. He just put it in his book to spur sales. He’s an opportunist like the rest of the bullies with no thought to what Meghan and Harry have suffered.

  15. MadMangoMal says:

    “the impact that their televised catalogue of grievance might have upon the invalid’s morale and health.”

    I’m confused, is he calling the queen and invalid? WTF?

    • Lauren says:

      Not the Queen, but Philip. The Queen is instead old, hard of hearing, and easily confused according to Richard Kay who is a mouthpiece for Baldingham and occasionally Chuck.

      • The Hench says:

        And Lacey contradicts himself here because at the beginning of the full article he goes out of his way to say that Philip was unconcerned by anything Harry and Meghan could say. Or maybe he is casting shade at the ridiculousness of William trying to claim an interview “upset” the famously irascible and tough Philip?

      • MadMangoMal says:

        Thanks Lauren! That makes more sense. I had to googled the definition, I thought it was like a more polite way of saying a person was brain dead, but it’s not that severe “removed from active duty due to illness or injury”

      • The Hench says:

        The article is behind a paywall but the actual lines are:

        “commentators were urging CBS and ITV to postpone their screenings. The broadcasters and the Sussexes ignored the appeals and the programmes went ahead.

        Philip was unconcerned, according to his friend and biographer Gyles Brandreth. What did worry him, said Brandreth, was “the couple’s preoccupation with their own problems”. “I know from someone close to him,’’ revealed the author and broadcaster, “that he thought Meghan and Harry’s interview with Oprah Winfrey was ‘madness’ and ‘no good would come of it’.”

    • MsIam says:

      I thought it was reported that Phillip was not even going to watch? And the same with the Queen? They have told so many lies and put so much spin out there you would think they worked for the Trump Organization!

  16. Jan says:

    The lamebridges knew their lies would be exposed instantly, so the couple with more leaks than an unUsable toilet was worried about some one else cleaning up their shit.
    Regards to Anne who give a crap if she talks to Harry, her children turned out just like their parents, cheaters.
    I can still remember when Zara flew to Australia to pick up Mike who was having a blast with a woman that was not his wife.
    Sofiesta would sell her mother for money, she called her husband gay.

  17. Nina says:

    Whatever happened to never complain never explain. These so-called royals are becoming more and more like people living in the housing estates. Arguing, fighting, gossiping over silly things.

    They got what they wanted, Meghan has gone, no communication with her and Harry.
    They are not bothering the Salty Isle yet PWT, Waity and their minions can’t them alone. The bile and envy are making them incandescent with rage. Their one-sided feud is laughable.

    • Lady Digby says:

      No wonder after similar treatment meted out to his wife the Duke of Windsor returned to UK for family funerals on his own rather than allow Wallis to be subjected to the cold shoulder from his family. Nothing has changed in 80 years and I can see Harry only returning to UK when he absolutely has too as well because quite frankly who needs the grief?

      • Pinellas Pixie says:

        I think Harry will return for the Jubilee next year and his grandmother’s eventual funeral. I don’t think he will return after that for any reason. He has learned his family is just the Markles with money. He has no use for them.

  18. My3cents says:

    So the little lynchpin that couldn’t? I thought that now that she brought peace she’s moved on to help the children.

  19. Haylie says:

    They only wanted to be seen talking with him in camera, per the KP agreement with the tabloids.

    Windsors are trash.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      The Windsors absolutely are trash! Agree 1000%

    • BnlurNforever says:

      Trash is too tame a descriptor for them. In fact I can’t think of an appropriate descriptor for how vile these people are that will not be too tame. I truly hope I live to see this lot get their comeuppance, but it seems these kinds of people never really get the comeuppance I think they deserve, see Trump.

  20. MsIam says:

    So Meghan was terrible for releasing details about Phillip’s wreath but we got all the details about why Kate wore that gaudy necklace to the funeral? Looking like Lady Dracula in that crazy coat dress and mask. So Meghan is pushy and trying to claim attention but Kate is only making “A sweet tribute to Phillip and the Queen’s love”? Foh! And the bitterness towards Omid! He must be laughing his head off! The royals leak to a whole damn bus load of folks in the rota but the Sussexes have their spokespeople talk to one journalist and its ” oh dear!”. Again foh with these people.

  21. Midge says:

    So much of their rage, including William’s, is because they, too have suffered from being unable to defend themselves or even choose their partners and passion in life. They are so pissed that Harry said, “ f*ck that” and broke the toxic cycle. They resent Harry and they want him to fail because they never had the balls, support or wherewithal to pull it off, escape, and live freely.

    • MsIam says:

      Oh please! They have all done exactly what they wanted. And the only one that I can see that didn’t get to choose their own partner is Charles and that’s because he dithered around and she married someone else! But he ends up with her in the end. I think their rage is not so much about not getting what they want as it is about wanting what others have and not getting it. That combined with not being satisfied and grateful for what they already have.

    • MipMip says:

      This times a hundred

  22. betsyh says:

    Is Robert Lacey a respected royal historian? Because these excerpts seem like tabloid fodder.

    • MsIam says:

      That’s basically what this is. Its nothing new, just some coins thrown at KP to keep them happy and try and make the Sussexes look bad. Especially Meghan.

  23. Over it says:

    How could Harry be showing off picot Archie when these people made it a point to tell the world no one was talking to him.? Ffs I bet he showed Eugine and her husband and probably Beatrice pictures and that it. Get over yourselves jfc. And how is Kate the peace maker when once the cameras are away she becomes ice queen bitch again to Harry. Her neck must hurt with the many heads she wears.

  24. Catherine says:

    I’m going to defend H&M on the press release also. It wasn’t some exclusive given just to Omid. It was given to other outlets. Lacey talks about when Omid tweeted about it. It not their fault he wanted to make sure he was first and tweeted about it. The other reasons I’ll defend them is this the trolls were already claiming that H&M hadn’t sent a wreath. It seems the RR’s know what florists the royals typically use and had been checking around. The trolls who say they have inside sources were claiming they had heard no wreath had been ordered by H&M. I think that’s why it was made clear they had sent a wreath and what florist they ordered it from. As for making it clear Meghan was watching. Again they were responding to the avalanche of speculation that had gone on all week. Even some questioning whether she actually didn’t get medical clearance. Also, there had been stories about how family members who couldn’t attend were going to be given some special link. The press release emphasizes that she was going to watch the live broadcast. So they were addressing all narratives. And I think cutting off negative post funeral coverage.

    • Nina says:

      And why were their phones not off or on silent during a funeral? How disrespectful. When I go to a funeral I make sure my phone is off or on silent.

      • Ann says:

        Very good point. You turn off your phone during a play, you had best do it during a funeral! Who was looking at their phones?

    • Sunday says:

      Exactly! It’s not Meghan’s fault that these fools have notifications set up for Omid’s tweets! LOL but seriously, he’s insinuating that “journalists’ phones began pinging” during the funeral, but were there journalists actually inside the church? No, right? After all, attendance numbers were incredibly tight due to Covid restrictions. Therefore, he’s just sneakily conflating the two; he might be correct about the timing of the press release and/or tweets, but those journalists were not in the church and therefore their phones could ping til the cows came home but it wouldn’t have disturbed the funeral, which is the rude, narcissistic act he’s trying to imply.

      Overall, anyone who wants to blame Meghan should review the media frenzy surrounding the funeral and how viciously a heavily pregnant woman was being excoriated for not swimming across the Atlantic to pay her respects. It was abusive and sick and I refuse to blame the victim.

  25. Evie says:

    Sorry, I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I’m going to defend Kate here. Whatever her faults and flaws, I believe she and Harry genuinely like each other. I did watch a bit of Prince Phillip’s funeral. When Kate waited to talk to Harry, the two of them seemed relaxed, engaged and happy to see one another.

    Despite all the RF family drama and the spite that runs in through that family a mile wide, I don’t believe Kate dislikes Harry. That’s all.

    • MsIam says:

      Oh we know Kate “likes” Harry. But Harry’s wife? Not so much.

      • Evie says:

        Honestly, I don’t think Kate hates Meghan. She’s probably a bit jealous of Meghan’s popularity and natural ease with people. But woman to woman, if Kate and Meghan were not in the RF, they wouldn’t hang out because they have little in common, but they’d probably be fine with one another. So no BFFs but no blood feuds either…Now, Rose Hanbury is another story entirely, LOL!
        During the Oprah interview, Meghan seemed OK – as in not bothered by Kate – even going as far as to say, “She’s a good person.” And Meghan appeared sincere about that.

        Truthfully, I think BOTH Meghan and Kate are stronger and more intelligent than their husbands. IMO, both William and Harry — especially William – are big babies.

      • MsIam says:

        @Evie then why the snub at a church of all places? Why let her uncle go around calling Meghan and Harry names? Enough with this “oh I don’t think Kate hates Meghan ” nonsense and call it like it is. That woman and her mother are eaten up with jealousy, even though Kate will be the damn queen consort one day! How greedy and graspy do you have to be to have it all and still not be satisfied? Its not Meghans fault that she has a husband who loves her.

      • Becks1 says:

        We talked about this a bit the other day, but I think Meghan knows what is going on in the Cambridge marriage and as a result has an enormous amount of sympathy for Kate. Meghan is a good person and she did go out of her way to protect Kate in that interview. I think it had less to do with Kate personally and more to do with the idea that M has sympathy for Kate and that Kate was not the focus of the interview for Meghan.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Evie, Kate has no female friends not even her own sister whom she views as competition. Meghan made multiple attempts to befriend Kate, and Kate always slammed the door. Then Kate and her tacky family spent 2 years lying about Kate’s bullying behavior towards suicidal Meghan. I have no patience for the Poor Kate narrative.

      • Emmitt says:

        I am pretty sure Meghan has come across plenty of Kate-types in her lifetime. Kate is really a non-factor*. Would Meghan have liked to have been friends or at least civil with Kate? Yes. Is Meghan used to dealing with jealous b*tches? Yes.

        Then too, consider the fact even if Kate had wanted to be nice/pleasant/friends with Meghan, William would’ve put a stop to that. Kate isn’t trying to undergo the same smear machine Meghan is being churned up in for defying William. Kate has more to lose than Meghan, because at least Meghan had:

        a loving mother
        a home country that doesn’t hate her
        marketable skills
        a loving husband
        a network of influential friends

        Kate has none of that. But Kate doesn’t matter and Meghan knows that. The problem begins and ends with William, not Kate.

        *Sophie is a non-factor too.

    • Over it says:

      Well let’s ask Harry wife how she feels about the fact that Kate and william have a problem with Harry sharing things with gasp his own wife. Kate is a Karen. And no one can defend that, she shows it daily in her behavior and attitude to other people especially in the way she treated Meghan. Commonwealth service is prof enough

      • Alexandria says:

        That Commonwealth service and exploiting a dead woman shows me exactly who KKKate is. Even stories about her in college copying, flashing. Then bullying the York sisters. No heartwarming stories about her behaviour or testimonials about work ethic even before marriage.

    • Nina says:

      I don’t know about liking her. I know he comes across as a gentleman. And sometimes that can seem like the person being polite really likes you.
      Even if he liked her at one stage I think after the way she treated Meghan, that “like” has long since evaporated. Just look at the expression on his face when they snubbed Meghan at the commonwealth service.
      I know if someone treated my husband that way, they would be dead to me, family or no family.

    • Emineminaemin says:

      If Kate genuinely liked Harry, she would have embraced his wife from the beginning. Instead, she acted like a woman scorned.

    • Margaret says:

      The only way kate would like meghan, is for her to free harry, back to her. The way kate feels about harry is not healthy.
      Ignoring, the weight loss, since meghan appeared on the scene, and the ridiculous copying of meghan, speaks volumes.

    • Jaded says:

      Remember the Commonwealth service? Remember how the Cambridges completely iced out Meghan and Harry? Remember the look on Kate’s face? I’ll remind you of it — she looked like a viper. Her face was frozen into the most hateful sneers I’ve ever seen. She doesn’t deserve a pass on that — it was horrible, immature and spiteful behaviour. Meanwhile Meghan smiled sweetly through the entire service and kept Harry from exploding.

      • Over it says:

        Evie , Megs had to say Kate was a good woman in that interview. If she said anything else she would have been skinned alive because only white women get to shed white tears, black and colored women don’t get that option, we show emotion we are angry colored people. And no they won’t be friends because Kate has no friends. She is a jealous heartless harpy who doesn’t play nice with other women especially women who’s husbands she pines after

      • Jaded says:

        @Over it – exactly. Meghan was also aware that Kate was going through something serious at the time (probably the Wm and Rose stuff) so she cut Kate some slack. I wouldn’t have been so generous, but at this point the Cambridges have dug themselves into such a deep hole they’re unlikely to be able to dig themselves out of it once the real shit hits the fan.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Evie, we know that Kate likes Harry. Watch her when he’s around, and you’ll see that she REALLY likes Harry. Harry is always a gentleman, and that’s the only way he’s been around her. You need to look at it from her perspective for a minute. K’s husband walks away with the umbrella when it’s raining and it’s Harry that calls to W to remind him his wife is standing there without an umbrella. K’s husband usually ignores her–certainly its a real chore for him to even look at her in public. K’s husband looks like he wants to be anywhere but around her when she speaks at an engagement. Do I need to go on? Harry simply has afforded her the common courtesy that he does to anyone. K has completely miss construed the minimum of attention, because she doesn’t get even that from her husband. IMPO she would jump Harry’s bones in a second. Harry wouldn’t touch her with a 10 foot pole. Here’s what you need to do. Go back in time and read the DIRECT quotes from Harry regarding K, and you’ll find he didn’t know her before she married his brother. IIRC, he didn’t know she was pregnant until the RRs told him. His role in the firm was to accompanying W&K to engagements. That’s it. Now keep that in mind when you look at the pictures of K around Harry. It doesn’t matter how many times she and MaMiddlin’ put this in the press, she’s actually doing herself harm. Harry doesn’t want anything to do with her, and she just looks desperate and really inappropriate with her BIL. If she’s hoping Harry will leave Meghan and be her play toy, she’s living in a fantasy of her own making.

    • Elle says:

      Well, yes, she does. If you compare the look on her face, she was sadder at Harry’s wedding than she was at Philip’s funeral.

    • Calibration says:

      Evie, Harry is polite to Kate, that’s it. He’s never been Kate’s bestie as the stans have spun it. Kate liked his attention, as Harry is an actual gentleman unlike his brother. But would he really be fond of Kate given the way she and her family treated Meghan? I doubt that. I know it’s stan thing about Harry and Kate, but it’s fanfiction. It’s not real.

  26. Calibration says:

    He’s moaning about timing of the flower info, yet no mention that linchpin McButtons made the entire service about herself.

    Oh and I like the bit about Sophie and Anne not talking to him. It was a walk to and fro the church, not a freaking party. Who cares about Sophie, her morals went down the toilet decades ago. She sold them for 50 rooms and endless ferragamo pumps

  27. BnlurNforever says:

    Still hoping that Harry stay is butt at home with his family and recognize that he honors his mother every minute of everyday by being a great husband to his wife and a excellent father to his children. A statue unveiling is not needed to honor Diana in fact I still think putting a statue of her in a place she hated is morbid, imo.

    • Alexandria says:

      I know everyone has an ego but I really doubt Diana’s is big enough to want a statue of herself. She would definitely love what Harry and Meghan has been doing for others.

  28. Alexandria says:

    Can a Celebitchy please write a proper book on these and make sense? I’ll buy it.

  29. Jay says:

    If I’m reading the quote correctly, it sounds like there was a very coordinated effort among the “magnificent 7″ to freeze out Harry, with “neither Anne nor Sophie” saying a word to him, and our Keen peacemaker arranging her photo ops, but not going so far as speaking to Harry. Interesting. We’ve seen that everybody vs. the Sussexes dynamic already, of course, but I think it’s the first time it’s been explicitly confirmed this family used the occasion of a funeral to close ranks and try to hurt one of their own.

    So it gets more like something out of “Mean Girls”, and harder to pretend that the rift is Harry’s responsibility to mend. He came off well, I thought, calm and respectful, and seemingly unbothered by his family’s attempts to snub him.

    Also, I call BS on Harry showing everyone snaps of Archie. Maybe a few trusted people, but remember that at least one member of this family openly wondered what colour Archie’s skin would be – I can’t imagine wanting to share with them. Plus, you’d imagine that somebody would have leaked that they had seen a picture of Archie to deflect from not having seen his sister yet.

  30. ML says:

    Anyone else notice this: “ Meanwhile, William and Kate, after saying goodbye to Charles, who headed to Wales where he had been mourning at his Llandovery estate, went back to Kensington Palace together to put the children to bed.” They went back together? To where they live as a family? Why would you say “together”? I think that’s a shady innuendo.

  31. 2cents says:

    I don’t see Robert Lacey as a true, investigative royal historian. He’s too subjective and judgmental in his storytelling, rather a salesman of royal stories. His books and articles lack serious fact-checking. That is why I eventually didn’t buy his book Battle of Brothers.

    As a salesman he knows this story about the rift between the two brothers could make an interesting classical drama piece. Knowing Lacey is one of the advisors for the series The Crown on Netflix, I have no doubt that he is anticipating an extension of the series to cover the rift between the brothers and I assume he wants his book to be the essential source for the script.

    His recent overdramatized articles about the “bullying claims” against Meghan from William’s sources show Lacey’s eagerness to improve his Hollywood status as a royal storyteller and access to the big budgets.

    It was interesting to see how Lacey promoted the first edition of his book in the American versus the British market, cleverly selling each audience a different version of the same story to anticipate sentiments.

    We should take Lacey’s sycophantic storytelling with a huge grain of salt.

    • Noor says:

      Agree. As a historian, Lacey has the responsibility not to repeat gossips.

      He is commenting on their lives as they are living it. Is this what historians do?

      Since their lives are evolving, how many updates of the book is this historian going to publish?

  32. Terri J Neff says:

    Yes, shunning a family member at a funeral of a loved one is always a good look.

  33. SusanRagain says:

    What a complete bunch of ego driven tools!
    So, even at a family funeral they can not behave with a minimum of good manners?
    Awful.

  34. India says:

    The Cambridges are nothing but a pair of complete assholes.

  35. Shannon Brown says:

    With the BRF trashing HER so hard, I would imagine her PR encouraged her to send a statement. At the very least, she would have been damned if she didn’t say something. Since it was implied Meghan wasn’t wanted at the funeral, how else would she state her thoughts? I remember thinking at the time she said this just so people would KNOW she did have something to say about it all. Again, she would have been damned if she did or didn’t. Better her be able to control her own narrative via a statement, then someone else doing it for her.