Crisis managers Prince William & Charles have thoughts about the Duke of York

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Prince William is, historically, not a proactive person. He’s lazy, contemptuous, secretive and full of rage. He rarely makes an effort to do anything about whatever he’s engorged with rage about at the time though – he merely stews in his own toxicity and hatches hateful, half-assed plans for other people to carry out. William also loves to bandwagon and take credit for other people’s work. Which is why in 2019, we heard that William was suddenly super-involved in pushing out Prince Andrew, when William really had nothing to do with it. Getting Andrew to resign from public life was ALL Charles, and Chuck had to convince his mother to go along with it. William then took credit for being keen for his father’s plan.

This time around, I will admit, it does seem like William is trying to be a bit more proactive with the Andrew situation. William ran straight to Dan Wootton and let him know that Andrew needs to go… from Royal Lodge, because William wants to live there. But did you also know that Charles and William are united in the belief that the lawsuit against Andrew could – gasp – ruin next year’s Platinum Jubilee? And that they hate Andrew’s lawyers? From The Daily Mail:

William & Charles hate Andrew’s lawyers: Senior royals have privately expressed concern over the handling of Prince Andrew’s latest legal crisis as it emerged it could overshadow the Queen’s historic Platinum Jubilee. The Daily Mail understands that both Prince Charles and Prince William have doubts about the way such serious allegations have been dealt with by Andrew and his legal team. More than 48 hours after Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s attorney in the US began civil proceedings accusing the 61-year-old royal of ‘rape in the first degree’, sexual battery and sexual abuse, there has been no reaction from Andrew’s camp.

Andrew will damage the monarchy: Prince Charles, 72, and William, 39, also both fear the scandal could irrevocably damage the reputation of the monarchy, insiders say. Both men were instrumental in forcing Andrew to step back from royal duties in November 2019 in the wake of the disastrous BBC interview he gave in an attempt to clear his name.

They can’t really take much else away from Andrew: A royal insider told the Mail yesterday: ‘The family find themselves in an extraordinarily difficult and sensitive situation given the nature of the allegations. They are limited in what they can say publicly and now that the Duke of York is no longer a working royal they are actually rather limited in what control they can exert over the situation privately.’

No one likes Andrew’s lawyers: The duke is said to have personally instructed criminal defence solicitor Gary Bloxsome, of City firm Blackfords, to help mastermind his response to Miss Roberts’ allegations. Mr Bloxsome, a 40-year veteran of the company, has defended British troops against war crimes allegations, as well as footballers in assault cases. However, a source close to Andrew’s family told the Mail yesterday: ‘We are beginning to question the tactics of Blackfords. Not to put out a statement reiterating or expanding on his denial may work in a restricted, legal sense, but in the court of public opinion his reputation is being shredded.’

The timing: Miss Roberts’ attorney, David Boies, revealed that he anticipates the case could be heard in New York as early as the ‘middle of next year’. The Queen, 95, is due to celebrate her historic Platinum Jubilee with a series of major public celebrations in June. Asked if he felt the lawsuit would be enough to get the ninth in line to the throne to answer questions about the allegations, Mr Boies told Sky News: ‘Prince Andrew is going to have to now. He can’t ignore the process.’

[From The Daily Mail]

It’s interesting that the DM is getting this info straight from Charles and William, Clarence House and Kensington Palace. Because having read some coverage in other outlets, it seems like the Buckingham Palace strategy is to take credit for the fact that Andrew hasn’t issued any statements, like the Queen and her crisis managers ordered him to stay silent and listen to what his lawyers had to say. If William and Charles are arguing that Andrew needs to be issuing statements and being more proactive in his defense… well, it will blow up in everyone’s faces yet again.

As we saw from the messy, clownish way the palaces have dealt with the Sussexes, these people are not the best and brightest of Britain. This is not the crack team of qualified, responsible, mature communications and legal professionals one would want in a crisis. Which makes it enjoyable, honestly. Enjoyable to watch the clownshow, I mean. The fact that all of this is happening because Virginia Giuffre justifiably wants her abuser held accountable is laudable.

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  1. Scorpion says:

    Tweedledee and Tweedledum, Dumb and Dumber, Heir Force 1 and Heir Force 2….

  2. Tessa says:

    These two cannot even straighten out their own lives. Pathetic.

  3. Tessa says:

    “Brilliant” LOL William maybe can go for another commercial jet stunt. He tried it out on Harry.

  4. Eurydice says:

    William is lazy unless there is something in it for him personally – like Royal Lodge or getting rid of his sister-in-law. You won’t find him doing anything because it’s the right thing to do.

    I kind of feel sorry for Andrew’s lawyers – they’ve been presented with a great steaming pile of horse manure and told to make a birthday cake out of it. But, the enormous legal fees should make up for that.

    • Rnot says:

      I don’t sympathize with his lawyers but Andrew is their client not the monarchy. Of course they’re going to do what’s best for Andrew and not what’s best for Charles and William. That’s their professional duty.

      • Eurydice says:

        Technically, that’s how it’s supposed to work. But Andrew hasn’t been in charge of his own life since his disastrous interview and I can’t imagine that Charles and William aren’t closely involved in this case. At the end of the day, everything is about the monarchy and individuals within it are moved here and there depending on what’s considered best for the monarchy.

    • Kiddy says:

      The monarchy is Andrew’s employer and protector. 😉 If he attacks them I think he would be “over” either because his money supply will be cut short or because there might be some concrete pillar somewhere next to his smashed up car kind of thing. The latter was just wishful thinking.

      When Edward VIII (husband of Wallis Simpson) threatened the monarchy by sympathising with A.H. … he was offered some kind of ambassador’s post in the carribean. Bahamas, actually. See his wikipedia page “Second world war”.
      So I suppose they will try to get rid of Randy Andy by sending him somewhere where he can’t cause trouble. Personally I would like to see him serve a lenghty jail time and pay a hefty fine which would hopefully bancrupt him and his family.

  5. Tessa says:

    I guess Charles still has to cater to William, he has to have him along to “make decisions.” He did the same thing regarding Harry and apparently let William take over.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      Let William take over, or be sly enough to manipulate William into position to take the public flack? Charles plays the long game I think and is smart/devious enough to make someone think he’s loyal and onside while using them for his own ends.

      • Carmen-JamRock says:

        I think its more likely that Bullyiam’s puppet-meisters in the british sh*tmedia are inserting him into storylines to make it appear that he’s “doing important stuff” and not just hanging around waiting for his father and grandmother to die.

        Afterall, why should charles need him to ‘help with decision-making’ about anything? Do we have 2 prime ministers at a time? Do we have 2 presidents at a time? During betty’s heyday, did we hear stories from the sh*tmedia about her consulting with charles before she made decisions?

        Charles has his own coterie of advisors/courtiers/fixers etc. What does he need WillNot for?

      • Tessa says:

        He still did not take Harry’s phone calls. I think he is out for himself totally, and went along with Harry leaving perhaps to suit William’s disapproval.

  6. Woke says:

    It’s so insensitive to center this story about poor old queen will be overshadowed on her jubilee. That’s what I wish for them the jubilee being effectively overshadowed by this case and by other things. They don’t deserve to have their image rehabilitate by that jubilee.

    • Anners says:

      That struck me, too. I feel like recently every other year is some sort of celebration of how long she’s been on the throne, which feels less and less like something to celebrate as you look around at all the carnage that firm has wrought globally and personally. It feels very close in spirit to “let them eat cake”.

    • Couch potato says:

      Covid’s still a huge problem and long-covid cases are rising each day. A lot of people are unemployd and have to turn to charities to get food because they can’t afford to feed themselves and their family. Brexit is a mess, the PM is a mess and PA has raped trafficked girls, but THE MOST IMPORTANT THING for the courtiers and the RF are the queens jubilee. I’m so glad H&M are out of there and doing their own things, not having to answer for this shitshow.

      @Anners are really on point with the “let them eat cake”, they are sooo far from normal people’s lives, they can’t comprehend the world doesn’t revolve around the jubilee.

  7. Midge says:

    Chuck and Bill look like Nazis in that last photo. That’s all I’ve got.

    • Fifee says:

      Please don’t denigrate the uniform of the R.A.F. Just because these two fools get to wear it doesn’t make it remotely Nazi-ish. Them on the other hand, probably but they don’t need a uniform for that.

  8. equality says:

    How would putting out another statement denying charges help anything? His attorneys likely told him to lay low and keep it shut.

    • Couch potato says:

      But, but, but, they surely know better than an experienced solicitor. They’re the FK and FFK after all… /s

  9. Becks1 says:

    HA, they were so worried about Harry’s book ruining the Jubilee they completely forgot about Andrew.

  10. TIFFANY says:

    I hope everything goes Virginia’s way. Money, knowing the some type of consequences are coming Pedo’s way. Anything just so she ans other victims get some semblance of peace.

    • Kiddy says:

      I hope she gets interest. She had to wait so long for any kind of compensation. Not quite the same case nevertheless: Monica Lewinsky never got any compensation nor any help except from her family.

  11. Merricat says:

    The absolute hubris the royals enjoy has been their fatal flaw from the beginning. When you are not so bright but are royal!, you can either surround yourself with wise advisers, or surround yourself with sycophants who will tell you you’re brilliant. We know which way the Windsor tree has grown.

    • Anners says:

      Yes, it’s become increasingly obvious that there is not one person in their retinue who can either read the room or has any sway over the royals. They are increasingly tone-deaf, selfish, and arrogant. I actually think (and hope) that they will eventually implode from within. What a sorry lot of losers. I can’t wait to get their faces off our money and stamps (Canada).

      • Laura-Lee MacDonald says:

        Here! Here! *boisterous clapping*

      • KW says:

        @anners, moi aussi

      • Carmen-JamRock says:

        Heres whats happening to the BRF: you must recall that its only since the 1960s (and in some cases as recent as the 1980s) that former (british) colonized nations around the world won their political independence. Since then, social, political and economic changes in these former colonies have rendered the british royals and their adherents, toothless and ‘surplus to requirements.’

        But its like losing a limb… still feel it and frequently forget that its no longer there: the sycophants/advisors (who are often more puffed up with their own importance than even the royals) are having a hard time coping with the fact that former ‘subjects’ now see themselves as equals with their former ‘betters.’

        The advisors are stuck in a time warp & their advice to the royals is equally stagnant, out of touch, and will be the cause of their eventual downfall.

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  12. (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

    It really is mind boggling. We are in the midst of a pandemic that is showing NO signs of slowing down, people are losing livelihoods, their homes, children are now DYING from this… the world is either flooding or heating up and on fire, literally, from climate change that we may not be able to reverse… and ALL they are worried about is throwing a parade for an old woman whose biggest accomplishment is that she’s managed to pocket away her country’s riches, most amazing stolen jewels, and masterpieces of art, and still be alive at 95 to swill gin and play with her dogs and horsies.


  13. Amy Bee says:

    I haven’t read the post yet but this story was also reported in the Times. So this is a deliberate effort by KP and CH to get William and Charles’ side of the story into the press.

    • Amy Bee says:

      It’s clear that Charles and William are working together on this and that their main concerns are the Platinum Jubilee and their future reigns as King. Throughout this whole ordeal, there has been no concern for the victims from Palace or the press.

      • Persephone says:

        Well…if they acknowledged the victims, then they would be seen as acknowledging that Paedo was guilty. They can’t have that, dont you know 🙄

      • Over it says:

        Amy. I actually think the only thing Baldimort and Chucky are interested in is that they is still a monarchy for them to inherit. Not the victim and not the Elizabeth coleone

      • Kyliegirl says:

        The reporters are not doing the Queen any favors by saying this will upstage the Jubilee. Highlights what the royal PR has been trying to hide, that they are just selfish people who care nothing of their subjects. They just want to be revered. No empathy for the victims. I agree it is a tight rope they are walking in terms of Andrew’s “innocence” but you could say something. Also, we are still in the middle of a freaking pandemic!?! This but the Queen… is getting tiresome.

      • Tessa says:

        I think that George is being pushed in “dynastic” photos and wearing suits at sports events so Charles and William could show that the future of the family is Assured.

      • Carmen-JamRock says:

        @Amy Bee
        I disagree with the notion that its “Charles and William” working together on this matter of PedoAndy. As I said in another post, Willnot’s handlers in the media are attaching him (as theyve done with many RF storylines in the recent past) to these important discussions & decisions to puff him up and to give the impression that he’s of any value in the here-and-now, when the truth is, Bullyiam’s role in life at this point in time is to wait for the death of his grandma and father. That Is. All.

      • Tessa says:

        The thing is the Queen could have put a halt to Charles and William taking on the decision making. She didn’t. And Charles could have called a halt to William taking over. He didn’t. william’s media people can say it all they want, but if Charles did not want it to happen he would have nipped it in the bud early on.

  14. Monette says:

    The Queen is the symbol of the British Empire. The golden era that all(most) british peeps long for. When they ruled half the world, stole what they wanted and enslaved everybody.
    Who are the Brits without their empire? They are in an identity crisis and they cling to this 95 year old woman and her crumbling house of clowns and lazy asholes so they don’t have to answer that question.
    After all, it’s a tough question. They will celebrate her and be in denile until the whole thing comes down on them. Because it’s a damn tough question and because humans don’t like to change.

    • SarahCS says:

      I also think that some of this media push is about the harsh realities of Brexit kicking in and more directly affecting people – there are empty shelves in supermarkets because of a lack of lorry drivers (EU nationals who went home during the pandemic and haven’t come back), two of our mobile phone providers have now said that from January we’ll once again be charged roaming fees to use our phones in Europe, etc.

      This is no longer arguing about hypothetical events, it’s real and visible to everyone (that Brexit was a mistake) and the powers that be are worried. they need to prop up the institution of ‘Britishness’ and the Queen/jubilee, etc. is the perfect way to do that. They do NOT want anything to get in the way.

      • Lady D says:

        Isn’t the Jubilee around the same time the results of the ‘Meghan the bully’ investigation will be announced too? I would die laughing if news of TOB’s dalliance came to light at the same time. This Jubilee is fraught with potential PR damage. Maybe they should just cancel, although I’m curious to see if Andrew makes an appearance.

      • Tessa says:

        The senior members of the the Royal family should cancel the investigation of the bullying. Like the Queen stopped the Burrell trial which did not make the royals look good.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The courtiers are trying to damage Meghan’s global reputation. She’s not going to stand for that. I think Meghan’s lawyers have demanded proof or a full retraction. They cannot just stop the investigation, they have to publicly admit it was all lies made up by W&K’s PR team, headed up by #PoorJasonTheExiled.

  15. Laura-Lee MacDonald says:

    Stories like this remind me if a tidbit in an article from one of my grandmas old pro-RF magazines years ago. It was a throw away bit about how little Prince Will (he was probably around 6 based on my recollection of the publication date) was SO FUNNY one day, ordering other kids around on a play structure and hollering that he got to go first or he’d have them beheaded when he was king. It was framed as a cute thing, but I was just a kid myself and I could sure tell that was not cool. Guess the writing was on the wall.

    • Well Wisher says:

      This story seems oddly familiar. It was a harbinger to come. It also plays into a particular theory concerning NPD.

  16. Cessily says:

    The fact that they are concerned with the jubilee and getting the bigger home are glaringly shallow and petty issues compared to the lawsuit and pending investigation. They need to hire outside their bubble because it truly is a Royal farce that has lost all humor.
    I just hope VRG and all the victims gets justice.

    ( also for any rag to point out “timing” is just so condescending this is a legal matter not a protocol snafu.. and if timing was so important maybe PA could have dealt with it after he had to step down from Royal duties.)

  17. Over it says:

    I guess Harry book won’t be the thing that ruins Betty jubilee after all

  18. Water Bearer 💧 says:

    What I’ve read is that the Queen has told Andrew to hold off a statement until his lawyers know what they are dealing with and to give them the chance to read the indictment which make sense. The evidence against him is compelling and I’m looking forward to his legal team giving a detailed account of all his actions and dealings with his dead paedophile friend, as well as his previous sexual history.

  19. Keri says:

    I always thought that Willie resembled his mother more, but yikes. That pic of Heir force 1 and heir force 2 and their matching jowls proves that the Windsor genes have officially taken over.

    Andrew is getting his comeuppance either way and i am here for it, but i would tread carefully if I were Charles or Will. Charles, whose best buddies Jimmy Savile and Peter Ball were also pedophiles. He also has the same Saudi dictator friends as Andrew, and he once choked one of his servants and would have been sued or charged with attempted murder if he was anyone else, except he’s the crown Prince and got away with it.

    Then there’s Willie boy and his rage and extra-curricular activities. The way he sold out his brother and Meghan makes me suspect that he’s hiding much more than just affairs. Coke, booze, uncle Gary’s trafficked girls at Maison bang bang are just the tip of the iceberg for Willie.

    I hope they destroy each other. Could not happen to a more deserving bunch of parasites.

    • Tessa says:

      He lost the resemblance to his mother some years ago, except he has the oval shaped face of the Spencers, the rest is Windsor. Charles and William have secrets I agree and can’t afford to severely punish Andrew. Fergie is going to the media like mad also and she is a loose cannon herself.

    • Couch potato says:

      Speaking of what’s being hid; what happened to the woman who was found dead in Kensington Gardens?

      • notasugarhere says:

        She was found in a pond in the public park, not in any private royal areas. Highly doubtful it was related to any royal.

  20. Melly says:

    Epstein, Seville, Peter Ball, Ghislaine Maxell, Laurence van der Post, Earl Mountbatten. The Windsors love surrounding themselves with pedophiles. Well we know what they say about birds of a feather!!!

    I wish someone like Ronan Farrow would do a deep dive not just on Fat Andy but all of them and their links to child abusers.

    • Tessa says:

      And Charles had the nerve to bring Van Der Post to Diana to “help her” with her bulimia and “cure” it. Diana found the right doctor for her, Van Der Post was useless and had no qualifications.

  21. Athena says:

    Charles and William need to zip it. They’re on vacation they don’t need to comment. This running to the press with they’re every thought is not a good look. Everyday it becomes more and more obvious of how ill prepare William is for his role as future future king. This is what comes of not having any real work to do.

  22. Jay says:

    This seems to clash with what we heard yesterday about the Queen “forbidding” Andrew to issue a statement or attempt to refute. Seeing as she is the one with the bubble of sovereign immunity, that’s the strategy for now.

    However, it does speak to a larger divide within the Windsor family about how to handle the “embarrassment” (read: crimes) of Andrew. The dismay over how he will distract from the queen’s jubilee is a cover for how he might denigrate their authority in the long run. Can’t have the peasants start asking questions, or it all falls apart.

  23. Lizzie says:

    The pic of Charles and William in top hats makes me snort every time. You can just see they think they are quite dashing. Smug, entitled and elitist is what I see.
    Charles is all William has in the family now. Once Charles is gone and his siblings are either too old or no longer working royals, who will William have to do the bread and butter jobs that are beneath him and Kate? Will the kids all step up or will they also be too good to do any work or will they follow uncle Harry’s path? Maybe they’ll have to send out the Middleton’s.

  24. Well Wisher says:

    Andrew was part of Buckingham Palace and as such, they should handle his particular situation. So far BP has shown prudence by staying silent. One cannot quote silence. Most importantly, this is a new untested law, the solicitors cannot reveal their response to the lawsuit in the media.
    It seems like Charles may have had private conversation about the situation and the Other brother briefed the press. He spoke to Rothmere’s and Murdoch’s entities. The only question is – ‘Did he offered this information or was he ordered to?’ He is such an unwise and petty person.
    Society in its present form is based on the twolegged stool of power and money. He has access to both and consequently will not be held accountable for his constant fcukedup actions. There is no karma (based on Hinduism) in his present life maybe in reincarnation.
    If his actions are serious enough and do not affect immediate family members, then and only then it will have a negative effect on the RF as a whole. In the meantime, more of the nonsense and drama. Disruption without a destination in sight.
    This has bigger implications than Andrew and am fascinated to see how this unfolds in court. It bodes no one any good to have this tried in public opinion. It should be sorted out in the courts and reported by the press.

  25. nina says:

    He has a British criminal lawyer to fight a civil case in the US. O Jeez.

    Why don’t PWT and Dumbo allow the attorneys to handle the matter. I’m sure any lawyer worth his salt would’ve instructed counsel in the US already.

    I am rooting for Virginia Guiffre to get everything and more. Justice for Virginia!

    If not, sucks to be Andrew. He needs new attorneys and pronto. He is going to find out soon enough that the US is not going to show him the same differential treatment the British do.

    That being said I am ordering the good popcorn out of Chicago. So looking forward to this.

  26. Bert Mccoy says:

    I hope the London Police have the ba!1s to do a honest investigation

  27. Lizzie says:

    I’m betting the lawyers are trying to settle this behind closed doors.

  28. The Recluse says:

    Looks like 2022 is going to be another annus horribilus.

  29. Detnow359 says:

    I’m always amazed by all the jubilee talk which is a year away for a 95 yo woman. Yes she’s pampered and her mother lived to be 500 years old but man, don’t these people have anything else to do than worry about an event in the middle of next year?