One of the best and funniest things about The Crown is that the show has sent the royal family into a complete and utter tailspin. For three seasons, the Windsors loooved The Crown. The Queen was likely delighted that a lovely actress like Claire Foy was playing her, and the show absolutely contributed to a renewed interest in the monarchy. Prince Charles was very pleased that he came across as so sympathetic too, especially when it came to his time in Gordonstoun, his relationship with his father and his general sensitivity. But all of that went to hell in Season 4, when Diana was introduced and people could see a dramatization of real events. It’s still so crazy to me that Peter Morgan pulled his punches on some of the Diana-Charles stuff and Charles is STILL so mad about it. So obviously, they all know that Season 5 is going to be a disaster for them. So… lol… certain “royal friends” have contacted lawyers and inquired about possibly suing Netflix over The Crown. FOR REAL!!!!
The Royal Family have been told they can sue Netflix over The Crown. Friends shown in the new series consulted the Queen’s lawyers who said they and the royals had grounds for legal action. Close friends of the Firm, worried about their own portrayals in the upcoming fifth series, recently sought advice from top solicitors. They included experts from the Queen’s favoured law firms Farrer & Co and Harbottle & Lewis. The friends close to the monarchy were told that they are entitled to sue the show’s makers. And crucially the pals have shared the advice with the Royal Family — paving the way for them to take historic action.
A source said: “Friends of the Royal Family sought legal advice. The advice they received would also apply to the Royal Family. Although this is not direct legal advice given to the Queen and her family — they have been made aware of this advice.”
A source said: “This [fifth] series will be the most controversial ever. It deals with events that are still incredibly raw for many.”
Last year Harry and Meghan agreed to an estimated £110million deal with Netflix for programmes. Another source told The Sun on Sunday: “The Queen’s lawyers have been keeping a close eye on everything. Given Harry’s money-spinning deal, The Crown has become even more of a talking point. Worryingly, a lot of people, especially Americans, seem to think it is effectively a documentary — and much of the drama hasn’t exactly been flattering from a royal perspective. But these are real people and many are still alive. The next series could potentially be very damaging.”
The absolute COMPLEX these people have about Americans, my God. The Windsors are terrified of Americans, desirous of American money, media exposure and tourism support, and they all hate Americans and think we’re too stupid to understand that The Crown is a soap opera taking dramatic license on events which really happened. All of that has led to this: what amounts to a legal threat against Peter Morgan. They know they can’t stop The Crown’s season 5, but they think if they badger him, perhaps they’ll scare Netflix and somehow Morgan will be convinced to make some changes to Season 5. Plus, I also assume that this is just the Windsors – and Prince Charles specifically – genuinely believing that they can smear The Crown for months before the season airs and somehow preemptively delegitimize it. What they’re actually doing is making the new season sound juicy and dangerous and like must-see programming. Whoops!
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Their own actions make them look bad. It’s that simple.
The RF, their friends, advisors and hangers-on are all deluded. I want them to sue so they can make a hash of it as they always do. The Crown will then use discovery to open that vault of horrors. When they thought The Crown made them look good, they were handing out OBEs and CBEs to the makers. I hope Peter Morgan got good info out of Jemima Khan before he dumped her. The attempts to prevent Diana’s story being told will not stand.
Exactly. I love how Harry is supposed to give up the Netflix deal out of respect for his mother. If that’s the case, shouldn’t Willy give up the toxic and abusive institution that killed his mother as well? Or is the respect mom rule only for Harry?
William would KILL for a Netflix deal. Closest he came was an association with Attenbourough (whose docs are on the channel).
And yes, if we’re going to “kill” all media association with media that trashes royalty, what are they doing with the Rota Rats?
If Will had a Netflix deal he’d be praised, when Harry does it, the bots call him a “bad son.” Really ridiculous since Netflix is a streaming service and Harry had nothing to do with the Crown’s production.
They are all scared of their own shadow. May it forever haunt them.
Diana will forever haunt them. They should have treated her better.
OK. Let’s play a mini sliding doors for fun. Blame all this on the Duke of Edinburgh. QE left parenting to the Duke as she felt there was no real role for him in the firm. He did not approve of Camilla cos she was not an “innocent virgin” when Charlie was dating her! And he encouraged & pressured Charlie into choosing the “young innocent” Diana. [be careful what you wish for]
IF Charlie had been allowed to marry Camilla….what would have happened? Here are my thoughts: 1) plain, boring children, 2) popularity of RF would have sunk into the quagmire, 3) Not an iota of charisma within the RF, 4) Charlie would be the last monarch in England.
He might still be in the real world.
Charles did not want to marry Camilla when he first met her. He told this to Dimbleby. . Charles could have married Camilla Shand if he had wanted to. I think CHarles himself did not want to marry her and it had nothing to do with what Philip said or did. Charles also had other relationships and at least two other women turned him down. He was dating a beautiful young woman, Davina Sheffield but Charles dropped her when her ex showed up and talked of their relationship. Ironic, considering Charles eventually married a divorced woman and he was divorced himself.
@Tessa, I remember a documentary claiming that as a single man, Charles only wanted to have affairs with married women so they wouldn’t have any expectations of him marrying them. This is the heart and morals of a blood-lined, future-King Royal. So of course Camilla was perfect for him, and not in the wifely sense. To “sliding-doors” her into his wife is something that just wouldn’t pass the unspoken “Royal protocol.”
@DC, let’s sliding-doors Kate Middleton into all the Royal wife roles because she is truly what Diana should’ve been, the benchmark by which every married-in should be measured.
Catherine, the Model Royal Stepford Wife, Future Queen Consort (FQC) edition. Dim, dull, and determined to see her way through it all despite public humiliation, excoriation, disrespect, and dismissal. In this event, it is Kate who will be the last one standing. She will take in the ashes of the Monarchy — Charle’s dentures here, William’s scull there — with lips stretched into the discomfort of that hyena smile, and mumble, through gritted teeth, that “it was all worth it, every minute, every second.” Throwing back that famed mane of burnt sausage curls, she would yelp and keenly proclaim, “Yes! I would do it all again in a heartbeat.”
@Tessa Not only did Charles not want to marry Camilla, she didn’t want to marry him. She married exactly who she wanted to – old Tom was the highly sought after “catch.” This whole true-love-torn-apart crap is a disingenuous rewriting of history. I don’t think she really wanted a divorce from Tom either, but once Chuck outed their affair, TPB took his shot and got out. I still don’t believe she wanted to marry charles – but she was caught between a rock and a hard place once he made things public – very much like Wallis Simpson.
The casting executives deserve knighthoods/damehoods because they did a really great job, especially with a-hole Dominic West who’s going to play another a-hole.
The casting executives already did Charles a big favor by casting Dominic West to play him. West’s an a-hole for sure, but he’s loads more handsome than Charles. Quit while you’re ahead, Chucky Boy.
Heck even with Josh O’Connor they did him a big favor – he was a lot more sympathetic than another actor might have been, AND he looked a lot closer in age to diana than Charles actually was, so it was easy to overlook the power differential there,.
The Windsors think. Stop. You’re killin me, Smalls.
most ridiculous thing. if they actually wanted to sue, they would threaten peter morgan who writes and runs the thing! and has been honored by the queen! but of course, they only want to yell about this in a bs fake way. they are dumb.
Peter knows where all the bodies are buried. The lengths the RF are going to prevent Diana’s story from being told tell us what we need to know. They are making things worse for themselves.
All that anyone has to do si read Andrew Morton’s book about Prince Diana wherein she provided Morton with all of the information.
I think this article is just poking at the royals because they are powerless to stop the crown and they know it.
Personally I’d like to know what happened to “never complain, never explain”. Was that just for the biracial married-ins who were being hounded to the point of suicidal ideation? Cuz they’ve now come swinging for hair extensions and soapy TV dramas…
Sure they can sue, it’s not like they are public figures. Oh wait….
They did not mind the Crown until it got to be about Diana.
😂🤭🤣
Please let them sue, I could do with the entertainment.
Go ahead. Streisand yourself into the Funny Pages and right out of your lifelong “job” “ordained by God.” The Firm doth protest too much.
I spit my coffee on this one. And yes – if they hadn’t been such insipid, mean-spirited fools, then they wouldn’t be portrayed as such. Prince Charles should also be down on his knees thanking God that someone thought Dominic West looked enough like him to play the role. Charles wishes….
Totally the Streisand Effect.
Wow, talk about Bad Legal Takes. And these people REALLY need to do a deep dive into the meaning of the Streisand Effect, because they just keep tripping over it.
Apparently, I read minds: I wrote yesterday how Charle is losing his grip by obsessing about The Crown and not paying attention or, worst, indulging Williamßs worst impulses.
Sue your little heart away, Chaz, you still do not get to be Camila´s tampon,
Netflix executives are LOVING this!
Haha you know they just sat down with the accounting department and said they could take away most of the promotional budget for the season cause it’s all about to free!
Lol. Absolutely. Meanwhile Harry calls Peter up and says , sorry to interrupt but you forgot to include this………. Now carry on as you were.
A girl can dream and I have big dreams about the crown burning it to the ground.
Right?? Way to promote Netflix’s show Royal Family. You just saved them a lot of money, maybe they can up Harry’s contract lol..
Can I volunteer to write the Discovery Questions for Netflix to the Royals pretty please. “Turn over all written, verbal, electronic or other communications between the royals and the RR for all years covered by the show” hahahahha
Royal Family: please do not waste money on these lawyers! Americans already have a solid opinion and it’s that you’re dumb, haughty a-holes. We like the ones that moved here so they could be glamorous and charitable all over the place, try that maybe
Not just Americans.
Chucky should be thrilled he’s being played by decent looking actor and shut up. I cannot wait for this new season. The RF’s continues to fkup with their public attitudes about Americans, ya know the uncouth commoners lol.
Anybody can sue over anything. The question is will the court let it move forward? They don’t realize that all this commotion ups the attention level and makes it seem like secret truths are being revealed.
And also, what they need to be learning from this is that adult George, Charlotte, and Louis will be dealing with the fallout from William’s treatment of Harry and Meghan. But they won’t. Because whatever they can sweep under the rug will stay there. Right?
I don’t really understand people’s desire to sue over everything. People can’t seem to let things go and move on. Surely by suing, even though you might be motivated by money and revenge, you’re also dragging yourself through further stress?
I guess it depends on the situation. Maybe if you’ve had some injury or lost your job, it feels like the pain is worth the potential outcome. Especially when you have a sting case. In this situation, they already have plenty of money, and they haven’t really lost anything. Even if people look negatively at the Royals due to Diana, they still have plenty of interest, and people are able to be objective.
The impression I get is that people are interested in the Royals, due to their long history. There’s so much bad, as well as good.
Probably more bad in fact. Yet they’re still there, and when I walk to work, I still see huge queues of tourists waiting to get into Royal attractions. If anything, Netflix is giving them a huge boost, even if some of it is negative storylines.
Where would they even sue? In the US or UK? On what grounds? A fictional portrayal of real events gets a lot of license. This show has a legal team and honestly is pretty tame. After the Dave Chappelle mess, and how they made no changes based on the real controversy that generated, I doubt Netflix is even going to care. Hello First Amendment.
Do it Charles! Netflix doesn’t need the free advertising, but I’m sure they’ll appreciate more people tuning in to see what all the fuss is about.
And anyway, wouldn’t he then risk having to show proof that the show’s characterizations are a. Untrue b. Unfair or c. Actually damaging to his image as a public figure? Who in their right mind would want to open up that can of worms?
This could get messy real fast 🍿.
Keep it up Windsors. Add this to the treatment of Meghan and Andrew’s mess as reasons for a low opinion of the monarchy.
I wonder if they ever sit around and reminisce about the good old days when the royal family had ultimate power and could behead people and start wars if someone pissed them off. Sucks to suck, Windsors!
Their actions are very Putin-esque; just like he holds an iron grip on Russian journalists, the RF wants absolute control over how they’re portrayed by the media. Free speech and democracy are anathema to them.
If Charles, let’s face it, it’s Charles who made enquiries, wants to sue the Crown, does this mean that Meghan can sue the Royal Family for smearing her?
Please please please Santa. I’ll be good.
If the royals truly gave a shit about Americans, they would have embraced Meghan. Meghan was a great ambassador for America: biracial (but still white-looking), hard-working, intelligent, well-spoken. They could have bought themselves an extra hundred years as a monarchy with Meghan and Harry as their best foreign ambassadors. Meghan and Harry could have done the heavy lifting for the family–the foreign tours that William and Kate aren’t good at and don’t show interest in anyway. The royals would have had the American market locked down with Meghan. I think petty jealousy on the part of William was the main instigator against Meghan, but that it laid out the latent racism bubbling under the surface for the rest of the royals. His pettiness allowed that racism to rise to the surface, and now that genie is out of the bottle for the world to see.
The royals have the MAGAts falling all over themselves to bow and scape at their feet, but that’s not what the royals want. I don’t think they fully understand how badly they fucked up with their all-important (apparently) American audience. This American is going to watch the hell out of season 5 of the Crown, and I probably wouldn’t have otherwise.
They don’t like Americans. Wallis Simpson was blamed for the abdication of King Edward when in fact the real story is that he was a Nazi sympathizer and was in cahoots with them:
The Marburg Files
Marburg Files – Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Marburg_Files
Andrew Morton’s book: “17 Carnations”
The story of the love affair between Wallis Simpson and King Edward VIII, and his abdication in order to marry the divorcée, has provoked fascination and discussion for decades. However, the full story of the couple’s links with the German aristocracy and Hitler has until now remained untold.
I have Andrew Lownie’s new book “Traitor King” about Edward VIII on my To Read List. I’ve listened to a couple of interviews with him – and he really judges the former king very harshly. He’s also written a book about Lord Mountbatten where he revealed Mountbatten as pedophile predator.
This topic amuses me given the furtive Nazi ties the rest of the family had. There’s a lot of hush-hush over George Duke of Kent having peace talks with his Nazi cousin and possibly was a collaborator; also how the family continued to embrace their cousin “Charlie” Coburg at family gatherings while he was a close friend and spy of Hitler.
Agree with the comments above that the idea of suing is ridiculous. I’m not an expert in British defamation law, but I assume that’s the legal claim they are referring to. They are obviously just trying to poison the well and distract, but of course it won’t work. They’ll never take forward a legal claim, which as others have said, would require them air far too much dirty laundry and focus even more attention on these matters. And they act as if Peter Morgan and Netflix legal dept. didn’t contemplate all of these angles before broadcasting! They’ve always framed it as a fictional drama, albeit one Morgan clearly researched the hell out of. Am sure his notes are meticulous too.
What venue is the RF contemplating to bring their suit? Presumably not the US because first amendment would have judges laughing the RF out of court. So.. they’re going to sue in the UK?
It doesn’t matter if the audience thinks it’s a “documentary,” so long as the production makes it clear that it is a dramatization. I don’t understand how the RF’s lawyers believe they have a legitimate claim. And what exactly does H&M’s deal have to do with any of this???
Agreed that the venue would have to be British courts given the First Amendment and the broad UK anti-defamation laws. But really can’t see how there’s a viable case. The RF probably just paid some UK lawyers to tell them what was happening to them is a travesty. They can pay all the lawyers they want to lend a sympathetic ear, but the advice would have to be the same — there’s no case. Any lawyer who brought the case in British court would be showing questionable ethics given the case would inevitably fail. I suppose the RF thinks it’s a pressure tactic on Morgan and Netflix, which is laughable. They’re laughing all the way to the bank!
That’s of course after Netflix have completed their discovery.
Please do sue Chaz. You will be providing Netflix with material for shows that will be made when George’s great-grandchild is on the throne, if the monarchy lasts that long
Oh this can’t be true. Never complain, never explain. Right? The RF would never be so hypocritical. (massive eye roll)
Wait. What? Oh. Nevermind.
They won’t because in order to prove/disprove EVERYTHING would have to be shared and that would mean 24/7 press about things they clearly wish no one remembered. (Also in 10 years we would get a tv serialisation like the people vs oj and this would continue to haunt them forever hahaha)
Also, the mention of Harry’s Netflix deal is just sour grapes. The only time I ever remember they have a deal is when the press brings it up. There’s no way him having a deal is making people pay more attention to Netflix and the crown lol
Yeah, it’s The Crown’s fault they look bad. Not the fact that they treated Diana so cruelly, not the fact that they floated a shot of racism on that cruelty cocktail and garnished it with anti-Americanism when Meghan came along, not the fact that Bill stabbed his brother in the back, not the fact that Charles is too self-absorbed to give a shit, not the fact that they’re harboring a child rapist. Nope, it’s definitely The Crown. Alllll The Crown.
Ever word of this is precisely right! Every word
If you don’t want history to remember you poorly don’t do bad things. Simple.
Someone’s going to tell the story of Harry and Meghan. It won’t be this year, or next. It might not be for 10 years. But that story is coming. You know that NO ONE over there has given that a moment of thought.
This is just going to gin up more interest in S5. Americans can’t wait for more Diana. At least, I can’t. S5 is going to be a must watch.
And I also think it’s funny that we live rent-free in their heads. There are a lot of Royal fans here, and that’s what they see among the tourists who flock to their tourist traps. But that’s just one rather small slice of the American populace. Most of us just don’t care about them unless they’re being naughty or glamorous. Now they’re neither, just petty people with power.
I like the British people very much. It’s the class system, the Aristos and especially the Royals that don’t sit well with me.
I’ve never watched the crown… on account of the fact I’m not interested in the details of these privileged people lives and I just wanna watch a drama about a different royal family! Give me Nubian royals or Cleopatra or the Aztecs. What about an Indian sultan or a Japanese dynasty? Just anything besides another retelling of the BRF.
I will watch Spencer though. Because Diana actually used her privilege for good like how she advocated for land mine victims and hugged people with AIDS. Also I adore Kirsten Stewart, she’s talented and she only ever smiles on the red carpet when she wants to.
But the Windsor’s reaction to the Crown is peak Streisand effect. It won’t change anyone’s mind but it will cause more people to watch the show out of curiosity.
Lol that they liked it for 4 years but now it’s horrible.
All the fuss over the crown since the introduction of Diana, including government ministers wanting a fiction warning, tells me the establishment is getting ready for King Charles & Queen Camilla and are worried about their image. Of course being able to point to better treatment of Diana’s son Harry & his daughter in law Meghan might have helped show Charles (& the firm) had developed & changed. But oh well.
I also think the tabloids make a fuss of the crown now because they want to be only ones in charge of shaping the royals’ image including bringing them down a peg or two if needed & Netflix has greater reach.
It’s just funny to see this turnaround as we heard the royal family loved the crown for the first few seasons.
Lol forever. The Windsors are idiots. I guess that’s no surprise.
Cool. They do realize that if they sue and the lawsuit goes forward, Netflix attorneys would be able to get a court order for depositions of the ENTIRE royal family and senior aides? And they’d have to testify under oath?
I swear, I’m not sure everyone does realize it. Certainly the numpties who are putting this asinine story out there have not thought this through.
Let them. Wisdom is not something that’s found in abundance in the RF, so if they’re stupid enough to do it, I’m going to grab some popcorn, pour some Crown Apple & coke and watch them unravel. I must say, the fact that they haven’t learned anything from the past is absolutely staggering though.
Just because the truth was there for all to see doesn’t make it less palatable. The royals need to swallow the medicine and stop pretending they’re a healthy ,functioning family. The Crown shows a deeply flawed business model with stunted relatives. The Diana years in the news already revealed the toxic themes. The royals going after Netflix is about Harry and Meghan’s success.
Everybody on the planet already knows the Diana story – the details have been out there for 30 years. And the H&M story has been unfolding in real time to a world-wide audience for 5 years, with the RF actively trying to control the narrative up to this very minute. Nobody needs The Crown to tell them what happened.
theyre only doing this bc of the Netflix deal that H&M have and this is their excuse to go after them. its utter nonsense and is further proof that this family is so GOD-AWFUL it deserves all caps. Abolish the Monarchy!
Good luck with that Tampon king
this is about finding out exactly how much Netflix is paying H&M. They want to sue so they can take depositions and ask that question. Remember when the MP asked the person from Spotify about H&M’s deal during a hearing? How embarrassing that they are so obsessed.
I don’t think anyone is actually going to sue over The Crown, but I think someone at the Firm thinks it makes them look “tough” to talk about it, when it really just makes them look like idiots.
To tell the truth, I’ve always found these stories perplexing. I mean, the RF have things to do, don’t they? They’ve got a bazillion homes and a bazillion patronages and meetings and appearances here and there. Even if they’re doing nothing more than eating 3 meals a day, reading the news, changing into 10 different outfits, traveling from one home to the other or frolicking in the rose bushes, that still fills up a day. So, when do they have the time to obsess about The Crown or how much is H&M’s contract with Netflix? I know they have minions, but they’re also supposed to be scheduling and traveling and choosing outfits and covering up what happening in the rose bushes.
Even though I’m perplexed, I’m still immensely entertained – I just feel like I’m watching a soap opera in a language foreign to me without subtitles.
H&M’s contract has nothing to do with the Crown, no more than Ryann Murphy’s or Shonda Rimes. No one even knows what Peter Morgan’s deal is. They have no grounds to sue, Just have one of their press minions write a few bad reviews or have Julian Felowes do some production that glorifies them.
All this free publicity for the Crown Season 5. Dumbasses.
God, the Windsors are dumb. But they’re the most insanely privileged, highest social-status dumb. Whomever told them this is probably sucking up. And they should sue, because they can invalidate any high prestige perception if they do. These people are so freakishly stupid.
Also, I hope Diana is laughing wherever she is. The mere prospect of her still makes these people so stupid and defensive.
I wish no Americans had ever given them an ounce of attention pre-Meg. I remember when the Will & Kate Royal Wedding was aired and people my age (I’m late 20s) were having tea parties and crumpets and having watch parties! I can’t act like I’m oblivious now because I became invested in Meghan, a poised, dedicated, hard-working American woman being trashed for no reason other than her race and country of origin.
But back then I couldn’t have cared less. They held no appeal to me, as I was too young to have any awareness of what happened to Princess Diana. I wish as a country we had never given these boring assholes any attention.
Ever since Americans have shone the spotlight on them, they’ve proven themselves to be racist, dull, and grating.
Suing is about as good of an idea as having the Pedo Prince sit down for a nice sweaty interview.
I say go for it.
If anyone watches ‘Succession,’ this makes about as much sense as a character in last night’s episode wanting to sue Greenpeace.
I hate these people. In some ways I can respect the American Mafia more than I can respect these people.
I haven’t seen the Crown, but it isn’t purporting to be a Documentary on the RF, correct LOL? Just like American Crime Story, OJ Simpson or the latest installment about the Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton scandal aren’t claiming to be documentaries?? They are dramatizations of events that happened.
I didn’t see OJ Simpson or the Clintons etc., suing over defamation LOL. These people are idiots, and the more they do, the worse they look. So happy that Harry and Megan found a way out.
Excellent point. They’re public figures with scandals, people are gonna write about and make tv dramas about them. Honestly it’s all they have going for them right now.
When the Q is beautiful and intelligent, Margaret is an irrational alcoholic, and the uncle a Nazi sympathizer, you don’t hear a sound. Pull back the curtain, and the spectacle appears. The moaning and groaning are deafening. It’s the so-called friends who wrote books and granted countless interviews that fuel the plot. They’re not suing Peter Morgan, but Netflix. Those who don’t know already will see the treatment of Meghan similar to the treatment of Diana. William attacked BBC about the Bashir interview, but what network did he use to present Earthsshot? They can’t put the genie back in the bottle. I love every minute of the Royal meltdown.
Wow they really do live in delusion.
Charles looks like he’s saying, “Fuck” in the header photo.
They’re not really suing. But if they do that should be a barrel of laughs. Would love to see it. Look at all the royal parodies and shows out there like that Prince George cartoon or the Windsor show or all the Lifetime movies. These people are ridiculous and quite frankly, desperate attention whores
Damn, I don’t have Netflix. I’m missing all the fun.
Lol this whole story is made up. This sounds like a drunk person at a party that makes sh!t up, like they know a “friend of the Royals “ that is going to sue Netflix.
-a “friend” of the BRF has access to Netflix’s scripts for the upcoming season and brought them to legal counsel?
-Netflix isn’t Frontline. It isn’t going to reveal any real person’s deep dark secret (resulting in recoverable damages) on S5, Eps. 04
-some rich person spent $ on legal fees to bring a fairy tale to a real live attorney about a TV show that hasn’t come out yet and that atty said that they are entitled to bring a case? I’m, anyone is entitled to file a claim – it might get dismissed but you can file it. That’ll be €1,200 ha