Duchess Kate & William moved their charity Christmas special from the BBC to ITV

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Did anyone know that the Duchess of Cambridge was/is supposed to host a Christmas carol concert next month? I can’t find anything about that even being announced in advance, but now the event is apparently the centerpiece of Prince William and Kate’s grudge with the BBC. Obviously, neither William nor Kate want anyone looking too closely at when and why they were briefing against the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. So they’ve very angry that the BBC is airing The Princes and the Press, which details exactly how the palaces were briefing against Meghan and Harry. The BBC didn’t fold, nor did the BBC give William an advanced look at the documentary, even though William stomped his feet and threw a giant tantrum. So now William and Kate have pulled their big “Christmas carol” special from the BBC and given it to ITV:

William and Kate have banned the BBC from screening their Christmas carol concert amid fury over a royal documentary. Instead the charity fund-raiser, hosted by the Duchess at Westminster Abbey, will be shown on ITV.

The Sun understands the Westminster Abbey showpiece will be hosted by the Duchess, with Wills expected to be watching proudly from the audience. Children Prince George, eight, Princess Charlotte, six, and three-year-old Prince Louis, could even attend — making it perfect festive viewing.

But the couple decided to shun Auntie after it pressed ahead with a two-part documentary claiming Wills had briefed against brother Harry and his wife Meghan. Last night a TV source said of the royal snub to the Beeb: “This is a real coup for ITV. It is a brand new format — the royals have never hosted a televised TV concert before. And to have the Duchess leading on it is a big deal. Naturally most royal programming goes automatically to the BBC as the national broadcaster. Now it looks like they will work more with ITV in the future.”

The source added: “ITV were very surprised but delighted to get the late call offering them this incredible exclusive. It will be a fantastic Christmas carol concert that will be TV gold for viewers at home. It was all arranged to be on BBC1 but it was switched in the last few days because of the terrible row over the documentary. And things are likely to get a lot worse between the Royal Family and the BBC before they get better as the second part of the documentary threatens to go further.”

[From The Sun]

LMAO, William is so salty. I shouldn’t blame William solely – I’ve long believed Kate and her mother orchestrated huge chunks of the smears against Meghan, especially the bridesmaids’ dress fitting story and all of the sh-t about Kate telling off Meghan for asking staff to do some g–damn work. As for this Christmas carol special… like, you know it’s going to be a mess, especially if they expect Kate to actually “host” any part of it. She’s, um, not capable of speaking off-the-cuff or speaking naturally. When they say “host,” they probably mean that she shows up once on stage, awkwardly reads a prepared speech, tosses her hair and shows everyone her Christmas Jazz Hands. Good luck to ITV.

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154 Responses to “Duchess Kate & William moved their charity Christmas special from the BBC to ITV”

  1. Noki says:

    What a tyrant ! People get mad when i say William was born in the wrong century and would have been right at home with the likes of King Louis.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Didn’t William recently lose the BBC over 2m viewers? I bet the BBC is relieved. Anything associated with that pair is a liability. I say good riddance. But then again they might give us another pigeon flinch moment…………

      • lulu brown says:

        A spokesperson just came out hours ago rebuking KP claims saying they didn’t have room from Duchess of Cambridge’s Christmas carols. So, in other words, KP lied. The BBC never agreed to the Christmas program. Even Chris Shipman said it’s the first time last week they heard of this. William is trying to save face. The BBC produced it for ITV. Why would the BBC want to air this after Williams Earthflop?

    • Liz version 700 says:

      You are spot on. I say all the time thank God he can behead people anymore.

      • Seraphina says:

        Or King Henry VIII. Yes, I am so glad times have changed. Imagine being held hostage – an entire nation – to a man who has psychological issues. And Willy does. Absolute power is a dangerous thing.

      • SarahLee says:

        I bet Kate is happy about that too! lOL!

      • Deering24 says:

        He’s straight-up crazy. And the men in gray expected Harry to do his work and cover his sins?!?!? No wonder they and the BM are so desperate to get Harry back.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I think as a child William used to literally say exactly that, and that he was going to lock whoever he wants in a tower.

        William definitely has narcissistic personality disorder. He has all the traits, over inflated ego, lack of empathy, extreme self importance, obsessed with success, envy etc. I’ve heard he’s been like this since childhood so he can’t blame his mother dying on his behaviour, Diana knew what he was like and was apparently the only person to tell him off. Add all that and the fact he is future king and is able to get away with literally anything and you are left with someone who is potentially very dangerous.

        He’s a tyrant, if he could put the country under his dictatorship he would.

    • Mokiki (Monique Heywood) says:

      Is it wrong for me to wish that the Sussexes are out in public doing something (boring or meaningful – at this level of petty, does it even matter?) on the same day?

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I think this level of petty invites a fair level of equal and defensive petty from us! For real Will has the grace of Fonzie jumping that shark

      • Mina_Esq says:

        Or if they did something for BBC at the same time lol

  2. Jessie Quinton says:

    Oh no, our TV license fee wont go towards airing a sycophantic boring ass special, whatever will we do? 🙄

    Just throw “Love Actually” on again, we’ll survive….

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Depending on the choir group for this Christmas carol concert this may get decent ratings but no one is tuning in to see Baldy & Wiglet.

      I cannot imagine the Cambridge kids attending this event which will probably run 2-3 hours in real time.

      • lanne says:

        This could be the start of them forcing the kids to be visible, meaning they learn to behave in public or else. With their parents they face a lifetime of being used as human shields and attention getters for their parents. It’s the Windsor Way. It’s how William and Charles were both raised.

      • Becks1 says:

        @bay – I was going to say, the draw for many is going to be a Christmas concert in Westminster Abbey, I bet it will be beautiful, and that has nothing to do with the Cambridges, so it may get okay ratings, but it’s not going to be the huge draw they seem to expect.

      • abritdebbie says:

        The BBC normally have Kings College Choir on for the Christmas carols (festival of 9 lessons) that has been broadcast since 1928. One of the best Choirs in very beautiful chapel.

        I’d be interested in who the ITV one is supposed to appeal to. If they are sensible they will avoid the conflict with the BBC.

      • Tessa says:

        They had little George dressed in a suit, at the World Cup up late. So it would not be out of the realm of possibility to trot out the children again. IMO.

      • Jan90067 says:

        You KNOW the kids will be trotted out, shown in the audience a few times at the beginning, then Nanny Maria and helpers will take them home.

        Kate will be theme dressed like a Christmas Tree, bauble earrings dangling, wavy hair over one shoulder, fumbling through the single sentence (ok, maybe TWO sentences) she’d have to read off a prompter between songs.

        Bitter Brother will look sour and scowling; the few times a smile is expected, he’ll bare his teeth at everyone in that pinched grimace expected to pass as one.

        After a painful couple of hours they’ll be chauffeured off to different homes.

      • BeanieBean says:

        abritdebbie: Kings College Cambridge? I had the good fortune to listen to them once, can’t remember the occasion (grad school was decades ago). Those boys sounded so angelic I got goose bumps.

      • abritdebbie says:

        @BeanieBean Yep, Kings College Cambridge. Every year there are three of four bbc vans parked outside Kings College chapel to record them. I was super lucky and got to commute/cycle past that college for four years.

    • PrincessK says:

      So, it seems as though the Cambridge kids will be pushed out for this one. The only thing that could push the ratings up a bit.

  3. Lurker8 says:

    It sounds more like BBC didn’t want it and they passed it on to ITV who don’t want it either.
    William and Kate are a broadcaster ratings liability as seen before by earthshot.

    • Sarah says:

      This is what I was thinking. BBC passed.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Yes!!!! As soon as I read this all I could think is that ITV must be thrilled at the rating bonanza Kate’s jazz hands will bring. If William shows up there has to be a Downton Abby rerun somewhere….

    • lulu brown says:

      @lurker* and @sarah you are both right it was confirmed hours ago BBC passed on this weeks ago. KP trying to act like the control the narrative. The vIdeo of this denial is on twitter and Lsa.

    • Mw says:

      Isn’t ITV own by Rupert Murdoch? Is this reward for negative HM coverage inNYPOST and Pier’s stateside job?

      • Jaded says:

        Murdoch owns LWT which is part of ITV’s 15 regional services so he does have his filthy fingers in it but ITV is no longer the monolith it once was. Sky TV has bought a stake in ITV but they’re trying to prevent someone like Murdoch taking over the whole company.

    • equality says:

      I wondered about that because surely schedules for things that will air are decided more than just last minute.

      • BeanieBean says:

        I would imagine Christmas specials are planned in advance starting the previous year, so this would be typical Kate half-assery.

    • Jaded says:

      It’s being made for ITV by a production arm of BBC Studios – not unusual in broadcasting.

  4. CherHorowitz says:

    Haaaaahahaha ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahaha

    God I just love thinking of the tantrums going down at will and kates house. Go on guys, keep throwing your toys out of the pram because it is just making more people pay attention to what you’ve been up to

    And of COURSE it’s ITV. Same channel that have had piers morgan, samantha and thomas markle etc etc appearing on their shows to rip on the Sussexes.

  5. M says:

    These people are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Can’t wait until all the BS is exposed.

    Also, didn’t ITV air the Oprah interview? So why aren’t the palaces mad at them? Maybe they have no one willing to cape for them anymore at the BBC?

  6. Harla says:

    So ITV will get to have the Christmas joy of low ratings? Lucky them 😕

  7. rawiya says:

    Westminster Abbey told Good Morning Britain’s correspondent that the BBC decided against airing it since they already had something similar taped, and that’s why it was given to ITV. So BBC had the chance to air the future queen’s thingy and passed on it. HAAA. The shade. The shame.

    • Elvie says:

      HAHAHAHAHA.

    • mariahlee says:

      Sheesh. That’s embarrassing, if true, but tracks with the complete lack of originality within KP. I guess this Sun spin is them trying to save face, while also attempting to flex on the BBC? If so, they’re doing a bang-up job, bc this makes them look petty and tyrannical.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Hahahahaha. It’s a tantrum within an PR disaster wrapped in a soap opera. This is the PR equivalent of a Turducken

    • Becks1 says:

      Omg, that’s embarrassing for the Cambridges. Like……it’s embarrassing either way. Embarrassing that they threw a hissy fit and refused to let it go to the BBC, and even more embarrassing that BBC didn’t want it anyway and that Westminster Abbey wanted to make that clear lol

      • JT says:

        It’s embarrassing but it’s on brand. The royals look ridiculous right now and they cannot deliver on the ratings. From the commonwealth special, to the five-part Keenshot documentary and subsequent awards show, the royals can’t get people to tune in. It’s funny because ITV doesn’t have as nearly as wide a reach as BBC, so it will most likely be local fanfare, which is fine, but it doesn’t fit in with their “take America” plan.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Embarrassing for them, amazing entertainment for us. I hope they keep it up. 🤣

      • Lizzie says:

        JT, why do they keep trying when the ratings are consistently embarrassing low? I would say try something else instead of failing when compared to Sussex ratings, which we all know is the bar for the Keenbridges.

      • Lemons says:

        @swirlmamad I agree! Royals, please don’t stop.

      • The Hench says:

        It’s more than embarrassing. It’s a downright lie. Again.

        These people are unbelievable. Literally

      • Demi says:

        lol even more embarrassing now ITV are saying they haven’t decided yet if they will show it because it’s last minute and they haven’t signed a contract yet and not sure how much will pay for it (felt like they are saying we are not sure if it’s worth that we pay for it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUzOi0Ki7cQ

    • Myra says:

      They should not have made a lot of noise about this because that’s just embarrassing.

    • ThatsNotOkay says:

      BWAHAHAHAHA! Please stop! I can’t breathe!

      • JT says:

        @Lizzie I have no idea why the BM even bothers with the royal family’s Tom foolery. It never pays off for them. Even the queen’s Christmas message doesn’t pull in the average number of viewers for the network.

      • heygingersnaps says:

        @JT, I refused to watch her Christmas message, started several years ago and will continue to do so. My son’s gran forces us to watch it when we spend Christmas at theirs but I’ve held my ground.

    • GRUEY says:

      Honestly this would make more sense. Aren’t tv shows hashed out and under contract far in advance? Maybe it’s different for the RF, but would something like this even be the RF’s property to yank once it’s in the BBC schedule?

    • Deering24 says:

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Xmas is really coming early this year. Payback richly deserved…

  8. Elvie says:

    Oh boy, it will be a trainwreck…

    Also, William’s temper is going to get the best of him one day. Did he forget that ITV aired the Oprah interview and the Tom Bradby interview? He was all praise for the BBC and hatred for ITV then.

    He’s going to burn a lot of bridges and networks will stop caring that he doesn’t want to work with him because they get terrible ratings anyway.

    • Keri says:

      Exactly. I keep saying, this unhinged man will do something one of these fine days that the UK will never ever be able to recover from. He will embarass them worse than they think he has so far, because of his anger and petulance

      • Lady D says:

        A couple more stunts like the one he pulled with the Italian Prime Minister at the soccer game, should about cement his reputation globally.

    • Bex says:

      ITV edited the Oprah interview after tabloid complaints.

      • BabsORIG says:

        Does editing it change the fact that ITV DID actually air the interview after being the highest bidders?

  9. mariahlee says:

    Ah, this must be why they’ve barely worked this season. Kate needs a couple months prep time for her hosting gig. So royal! Can’t wait to see the viewing numbers. They’re sure to rival H&M’s Oprah interview, which also aired on ITV (bc the BBC withdrew their bid out of loyalty to the crown, if I’m remembering the spin correctly — that def paid off).

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The BBC did withdrawal their bid out of “loyalty to the crown” but the BBC statement was PR exercise that all networks play as I read somewhere (Daily Fail????) that ITV bid at least twice what the BBC bid.

  10. Kkim says:

    Didn’t itv air the Oprah interview? His rage has a short memory.

  11. Plums says:

    I get it now. It’s all a batman gambit by the BBC to get out of having to air all the ratings tanking royal specials.

    • Osty says:

      This !!
      BBC knows it will flop so the distanced themselves from it, I bet they even regretted broadcasting earth flop😀😀😀

    • Aengus says:

      I wonder if W blamed the BBC for the poor ratings of his Earthshot show, and BBC was like, nope lad, it was you. Toddle off to ITV and see that it’s true.

  12. Lizzie says:

    I cannot wait. It will be HIGHLY edited where Khate is concerned. They should consider subtitles. Maybe BBC will rerun The Princes and the Press while ITV runs this train wreck followed by Prince Charles interview where he admitted to adulatory.

  13. Osty says:

    They are lying as usual, cos I really doubt they can just stop them from showing if it’s TRUE they signed any contract. It doesn’t work like that
    But I bet the real reason is BBC realised that programme isnt worth their space and didn’t even go to bid for it , like they did with eugenie’s wedding. They saw how earth shit flopped and said adios and those pathetic liars are just saying this to save face

  14. OriginalLala says:

    The big question is, will Kate throw bugs at everyone and laugh hysterically???

  15. Amy Bee says:

    Yeah, Kate’s not the actual host. They’ll get Holly Willoughby or some other ITV employee to host the concert. According to Chris Ship, KP is still in negotiations with ITV to air the programme which is being produced by BBC studios for ITV. Yes the BBC has a production company that does shows for other channels so William and Kate are not exactly boycotting the BBC. I’ve seen another story saying that BBC had no space on its schedule for the Cambridges’ concert.

  16. Jay says:

    Petty and small move by the Other Brother, brilliant move by the BBC to stick the other network with a program hosted by the Duchess of Mumbles. The execs were probably covering the phone mouthpiece to hide their delight in getting to put something better on the airwaves. Maybe they can re-air this documentary😈.

    After Earthshot, perhaps people are beginning to put it together that royal does not necessarily mean ratings. The BBC will be fine – notice that the Queen’s not cancelling her Christmas message.

  17. Brit says:

    Those two are ratings disasters, lol. I’m sure no one is going to care whether it was on BBC or ITV. Those two don’t have the clout or audience despite all the fake polls and glowing coverage.

  18. Jan says:

    BBC lost 2 million viewers showing Earthshit, they were not willing to lose another million.

  19. NCDancer says:

    Gawking at other people’s kids sitting in the audience is perfect festive viewing? Sure.

  20. Commonwealthy seemed witty at first says:

    Soooo… the BBC documentary is a trap, to allow this brand new thing which has never happened before to be publicized. But why would ITV benefit… maybe they’re all in on the conspiracy. If William and Kate come out smelling like roses, BBC’s commitment to air Earthshot etc can maybe break-even… I DUNNO but I don’t like this. Spidey senses activated.

  21. Edith says:

    I had that the BBC refused to host them. William,Kate and their palace are lairs.

  22. Crowned Huntress says:

    When I think about the amazing show Harry & Meghan would’ve hosted, just imagine them bringing back the Kingdom Choir, gifts for the audience from local shops and businesses in the area, food prepared by the women of Hubb Kitchen & all the proceeds going to local food kitchens or to shelter those in need this season.
    The UK media really shot themselves in both feet by chasing those golden geese away.

  23. Jan says:

    ITV outbid the BBC for the Oprah interview, CBS was looking for the most money, just business, none of that bootlicking stuff.
    If the BBC could get out of airing Betty’s Xmas message, they would.

  24. MattyLove says:

    Christmas carol or Christmas Carole (Middleton)? 😂

  25. Layla says:

    Expect some sort of similarities between this and Meghan’s appearance at the Invictus closing ceremony.

  26. Catherine says:

    This supposed banning is being revealed as a KP lie. As an above commenter stated Westminster Abbey ( likely not wanting to be involved in a controversy ) has already denied the story. Tominey was on television saying well the change could be due to many things. Chris Ship article says nothing has actually been finalizad . The concert is being produced by BBC studios which produces programs that air on other networks. They produced Charles Duchy doc for ITV. If they were truly so aggrieved why continue to work with the BBC at all. KP overstepped with this boycotting claim and this morning they clearly realize it’s a bad look. And most of the media dogs that usually do their bidding don’t want to support a story that is about boycotting media. The Sun and the Mail are driving the story because Murdoch and Associated News hate the BBC. What has become clear is that this holiday concert was a last minute KP idea because both networks already had their holiday lineups set.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Nailed it Catherine. BBC are apparently producing this special but already have a carols show so itv may broadcast it. The Sun alleging this is as a result of a royal BBC ban is just playing to the anti BBC crowd & because Sun owner Murdoch wants to take the BBC down.

      This is theatre also to promote this project as who had heard of it until this story. Similar to comments about Bezos & Musk before earthshot – KP seem to be using controversy to get hype for their projects.

      I think Kate hosting a charity carol service is a lovely idea and bet the kids will there doing
      something cute. I’m reminded of those ridiculous stories claiming Meghan & Kate were going to collaborate on a Netflix show about Kate’s work. Maybe this was the TV project KP was actually shopping around.

      • Eurydice says:

        If they want to promote the concert, they might want to say what charity it’s for, who will be performing, if there will be any celebrities there, what day and time it will be aired – you know, little petty details. So far, all they’re promoting is themselves.

  27. HeatherC says:

    These poor poppets wouldn’t last two seconds in Meghan’s shoes. But tantrum away, Cambridges. Keep showing us the real you that we long firmly suspected was there.

  28. TabithaD says:

    The BBC already shows a Christmas carol concert, from the chapel at King’s College, Cambridge – this has been broadcast every year since the mid 1950’s and is very popular with people who like that kind of thing.
    So I can’t see why they’d want whatever half-baked effort the Cambridges are planning to come up with.

  29. girl_ninja says:

    It’s all performative faux outrage by the Keen Willnot’s to and throw folks off their foul, racist, lying scent.

  30. Bibi says:

    Gosh, this meltdown from Bulliam and Mumbles is the gift that keeps giving. 🤣🤣🤣
    BBC probably dodged a boring 3hr program that would have seen decreased viewing for that timeslot. Just look at Earth💩

  31. MY3CENTS says:

    Well at least we’ll get who wore it better- Kate or the Christmas ornamate?

  32. Lizzie says:

    Waity hosting anything where it is not tightly controlled and edited is a questionable decision. Is she being set up perhaps? This might be a 2 for 1 deal, pretend to shun the BBC and let Waity get the bad reviews while TOB is ‘proud and supportive’.

  33. Jill says:

    “Christmas Jazz Hands” for the win!

    • Over it says:

      Kaiser is on a role this week, we have had Lo, moose knuckle. Dumb as hair in a box and now Christmas jazz hands. Kaiser your the best Christmas gift. You just keep on giving and I am here for it all.

  34. Beach Drreams says:

    Wait, so they lied and the BBC didn’t even want/have time for this Christmas carol? How very Trumpian of these two jokers 🤣

    • lulu brown says:

      @Beach Dreams, Yes, they lied. Do you know how bad these two must be for ratings? The same BBC did a live play-by-play of Duchess Meghan’s Ellen show appearance but passed on Kate’s Christmas Carol special.

    • WithTheAmerican says:

      Exactly what I was thinking. All Bill needs to do now is grow some of that hair by his ear and whip it over.

  35. Over it says:

    Do you think william and Kate’s ass hurts when they sit? I imagine all this salt must cause soreness

  36. Kyliegirl says:

    Why are the Cambridge’s so focused on TV? Me thinks the Sussex Netflix and Spotify deals really got them. This is another example of their half assed work ethic and self centered focus. Do they not realize how much planning goes into producing a show and how far out networks have to plan/budget for this? For them to think they can just pull something out of the air at the last minute is just plain rude. Especially for the venue and the performers. They really don’t think of anyone but themselves. Especially at the holidays when people are stretched already. But we must celebrate the FFK and FFQ.

    • GRUEY says:

      And this is why I don’t believe their version of events. This shit is done with lawyers involved far in advance. Lawyers tend to be remarkably clear eyed about how to protect money. No. I highly doubt that Kate and wills have the ownership rights to just pull this.

  37. Izzy says:

    I guess ITV can kiss its ratings goodbye.

  38. Queen Anne says:

    Kate will be on stage for a moment or two mumbling something..who knows what..Willnot will be in the audience surrounded by his loving family..the entire Middleton clan acting like royalty..it will be quite the royal act I’m sure. Good for bbc for knowing what won’t sell.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Thinking about this further, I would be suprised if there was an audience. One, they’ll never fill Westminster Abbey. Two? Given COVID in the UK, 40,000+ new cases daily for a week? Is this is a superspreader event waiting to happen?

      Plus, if they do this pre-recorded and without an audience? Gives them a change to edit Kate’s mumbles down to 5 second soundbites and edit them in.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Maybe she’ll sing “Woudn’t it be Loverly” again!

  39. Tessa says:

    I wonder if they will trot out the children again.

  40. Sofia says:

    ITV does not have the viewership numbers the BBC has. My parents sometimes put the BBC on as background noise so if there’s something on there, it’ll be played on their TV even though they’re not actively watching it. They don’t watch ITV. What I’m saying is that I bet there’s more people like that and unless they go on ITV when it happens/use ITV as background noise or actively seek to watch it, this won’t get the same numbers as the BBC

  41. Lady Digby says:

    Perhaps they could perform a Nativity as past of the service and Big Willy could be King Herod’, Kate could be the Innkeeper turning away a red haired Joseph and a heavily pregnant biracial Meghan, sorry Mary. Then Jason can leak all over the stage just like Noah’s flood!

  42. Monica says:

    Oh, I cannot wait to see clips of this when it airs. If she were smart and not lazy as hell she’d be working with communication coaches from now until taping. Instead there will be LOTS of editing.

  43. swirlmamad says:

    All I can think about after hearing this was Kate and William’s Mary Berry Xmas special with the infamous shrug seen round the world. Maybe she’ll throw some bows this time to step it up and really get that ratings spike.

  44. Marivic says:

    BBC couldn’t care less if William’s show was pulled out. Just like his Earthshot it will just be another gaping yawn of a program and a big flop in the ratings.

  45. Missy says:

    Seems like a very Trump thing to do, “punish” a company for speaking anything other than sychophantic propaganda

  46. Lacie says:

    I love this mess and appreciate Kaiser keeping us informed ❤️

  47. Betsy says:

    I feel bad for the musicians and artists involved in this concert that won’t get much attention. They can’t help that Kate and William are attached and it’s not their fault that no one will see it.

  48. HeatherC says:

    Thinking about it, I think this is a copy cat move from Willnot and RepliKate. The Sussexes will not work with the rota and other outlets and announced it. Now the BBC is “mean” to the Lamebridges so they figure it’s the *exact same thing* as racist dog whistles, unverified attacks and all around grossness (it is NOT Bill and Cathy). The Sussexes did it so why shouldn’t we? (Except of course you still need all of them and they still own you)

  49. RoyalBlue says:

    would be wonderful is BBC were holding a grudge against the bully for throwing them under the bus with the bashir interview.

  50. Jaded says:

    Maybe Kate will come out dressed as Elf on a Shelf — art imitating life.

  51. JanetDR says:

    “Christmas jazz hands” 😂😂😂

  52. equality says:

    Nothing like being petty about a Christmas event related to charity. William will make a fine leader of the C of E. Interesting that no boycott of BBC despite being angry about Di being exploited but when they do something unflattering to himself, he wants to go all out.

  53. Amy says:

    “This is a real coup for ITV. It is a brand new format — the royals have never hosted a televised TV concert before.”

    Except the Concert for Diana. And all of the Invictus closing ceremonies. And Harry’s Sentebale concert in 2016. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. The f-cking embiggening never ends.

  54. Polo says:

    It pleases me greatly that no matter what these 2 try to do to “become relevant” they will never match the levels of Harry and Meghan. It the one thing they really seem to want but just can’t get. So they do little stunts like this but all they can get is a spot on itv. Meanwhile meghan was on Ellen and my local news station reported on it and a week later her appearance on Ellen is still featured the local news station page lol.
    So they’ll get a couple million in the UK for their special because of trotting the kids out which I expect them to do while Harry and Meghan just have to breathe and they are reported on by every newspaper/station near and far. Their kids get to live in peace and they get to live free.
    Meanwhile the others are trapped in a cycle of mental poverty..desperate for attention.

    • CQ says:

      You can’t compete where you don’t compare. They’re on different levels and there is no there there with the cambridges. All smoke and bs.

  55. Jay says:

    Can I suggest instead of reading from a teleprompter they put on a British Panto show with Kate and William stuck inside a donkey costume? It’ll be the closest they’ve been in years! The FFK and Q would NEVER.

  56. Lala84 says:

    “This is a real coup for ITV. It is a brand new format — the royals have never hosted a televised TV concert before. And to have the Duchess leading on it is a big deal. Naturally, most royal programming goes automatically to the BBC as the national broadcaster. Now it looks like they will work more with ITV in the future.”

    This has already been done, with Vax Live by Harry and Meghan. They co-chaired a concert with Global Citizen.

    “Prince Harry appeared alongside dozens of celebrities at the Vax Live event, a charity performance in aid of the international Covid vaccination effort.

    Hosted by the singer Selena Gomez, the concert – to be aired on Saturday – featured performances from artists Jennifer Lopez and Foo Fighters.

    US President Joe Biden also spoke.

    Addressing thousands of fully vaccinated guests at the SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, Prince Harry praised the efforts of front-line workers during the pandemic.

    “Tonight is a celebration of each of you here, the vaccinated frontline workers in the audience and the millions of frontline heroes around the world,” he said.

  57. Carolind says:

    The Carols from Kings on the BBC every Christmas Eve is lovely. ITV is the “people’s” TV channel. A lot of people keep away from it for snobby reasons.

    I like some of the royals, primarily Charles and Camilla, despite all the faults. I think William and Kate are a disgrace. The Queeñ is more or less out of it now so W and K should be doing bread and butter engagements the length and breadth of Britain the way Charles, and Camilla, do. W and K are too old and too senior for all this niche stuff. They should have special causes though they really work for, like Charles and his Prince’s Trust which neither William or Harry would take over, environment etc which Charles was interested in long before it became fashionable. Also Camilla with osteoarthritis, literacy, the forces etc. W and K only do popular or short lived projects, or the glam and important sports stuff.

    • swirlmamad says:

      The Prince’s Trust would have made most sense for William to take over, no? I feel as though no one would allow Harry the spare to take over such a prestigious cause which has been Charles’ pride and joy all these years. I feel like these fools were probably like, William takes it or nothing.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It is the Prince (of Wales) Trust complete with POW feathers as the logo.

      It is not now, nor was it EVER, Harry’s responsibility to take over something related to the POW role. W&K stans (AKA Meghan haters) need to stop insisting Harry should have done so. Only W&K stans think Harry should have remained, doing all William’s work, and being the whipping boy.

      It was always William’s job to take it over, William’s and William’s alone, but he refused. Charles then put his major charities under a new umbrella and put his nephew in charge.

      • aftershocks says:

        ^^ David, The 2nd Earl Snowden is Prince Charles’ cousin, not his nephew. Earl Snowden will be taking over the Prince’s Trust, recently renamed the Prince’s Foundation. A big reason why Harry wasn’t interested in getting involved (when he was still a senior royal) is most likely because he wasn’t asked.

        Also, as we know, Harry was already involved with numerous charitable endeavours, and with the organizations he founded himself (Sentebale, Invictus Games, The Walking Wounded, The Endeavour Fund, etc). Allowing Margaret’s son, David, to take over the Prince’s Foundation responsibilities for Charles once the Queen passes, is the best decision for everyone.

  58. A says:

    I mean, no one gives a sh-t, least of all the BBC, which has never had to rely on viewership or adverts for funding. They make a killing off of the TV license money. Chances are, if someone’s watching ITV, they’re paying for their TV license, which means the BBC is making a buck anyway.

    I imagine this must be infuriating for William. He’s trying really hard to go up against giants like Netflix and the BBC, but he doesn’t have the power or the authority to really strong arm them. They’re not the press, as such, so they don’t need to rely on fostering a good relationship with him in order to have good content. They can afford to really do what they want without worrying on what it will impact. It must be hard for William to swallow the idea of him being a small fish after all.

    • anotherlily says:

      Have a look at the Daily Mail’s new story on William. I don’t want to hijack the next thread but I’m looking forward to it.

      • Sid says:

        Anotherlily, someone just posted about it on another forum I read and I cackled when I saw the accompanying photo. Oh boy. Oh boy oh boy.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Hmmm, no Kate with him? Seems like the kind of thing you’d attend with your wife. Curious indeed. Looking forward to the post about it tomorrow as well!

      • Original Penguin says:

        The article has disappeared now!

        But definitely there is pushback against William

  59. tamsin says:

    I’m wondering why there are no details about this mysterious concert other than Kate is hosting. Is it going to be a carol concert? Are there famous guests? What choirs are being featured? Why is there no promotion and news of this concert only came out when William expressed his displeasure with the BBC. BTW, in my mind the BBC has been losing integrity for quite a few years now. It’s not the sterling news organization I grew up thinking that it was. From faking news stories to quoting the tabloids as news, the BBC is no longer a cut above.

    • anotherlily says:

      There is a Christmas Carol Concert but it isn’t in Westminster Abbey, it’s in the smaller church of St Margaret’s near the Abbey. The concert is in aid of a homelessness charity. People will pay for a ticket. Details are on Westminster Abbey’s website. This carol service is on 9th December . There is nothing in the publicity about it being hosted by a royal.

    • anotherlily says:

      Further to above, if you google The Passage Westminster it has information about services and events at St Margaret’s including a charity carol concert. This church is the church for Parliament.

      There are several events at Westminster Abbey including a carol concert on 14th December.

      There is no mention of any royals being involved in any of the events at the Abbey or at the church.

      I suspect the Cambridge PR has got involved only recently and has been negotiating with the BBC to film the concert. If this had been a planned royal event the websites would have the information. Simon Case, a former Cambridge press advisor who worked with Jason Knauf now works as a parliamentary advisor and will be a contact for Knauf.

  60. anotherlily says:

    Yet more info: William is Patron of the charity so it is definitely the concert in the church and not in Westminster Abbey. He became patron in 2019. This charity operates a homeless refuge and it is the place Diana made regular visits to with Harry and William. It would make more sense for William to be the host. He could talk about how his mother involved him in this charity.

  61. anotherlily says:

    It gets worse. The Passage Candlelit Carol Service is an annual event in aid of the The Passage charity. The service is led by a member of the clergy and the readings are given by ‘celebrity’ guests. Past services have included actors, singers,newsreaders and political figures giving the readings. AFAIK no royal has ever taken part in delivering the service and it has never been broadcast on TV. There has never been a ‘host’ other than the leading priest.

    The BBC published their Christmas schedule a few days ago. There is no reference to The Passage service. There was never any plan to broadcast the service. Whatever has been arranged with regard to filming seems to be a hastily put together plan which amounts to using The Passage charity for Cambridge PR purposes. Prince William has abused his position as Patron.

    The tabloids notably the Mail and the Sun produced misleading stories claiming this event as ‘ Kate’s Carol Concert ‘ and using it to add fuel to William’s dispute with the BBC. The tabloids have confirmed everything Prince Harry said about them.

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