Page Six continues to post some of the most random royal stories ever. I get the connection: Page Six is part of the New York Post, which is part of Rupert Murdoch’s media empire, which bashes the Duke and Duchess of Sussex constantly in the UK. But it does feel odd to get “royal updates” via Page Six. Still, here we are. Take this however you want. Their sources claim that Prince Charles and Prince Harry are in contact these days, even though Christopher Andersen recently claimed that Haz and Chuck haven’t spoken since Prince Philip’s funeral. Page Six’s sources also say that everyone in Sussex-ville and Charles-town are trying not to give any oxygen to Andersen’s book, which is full of “revelations” about Charles asking about what color Meghan and Harry’s babies would be.
Prince Charles has not seen his younger son, Prince Harry, in almost eight months — but they are back on speaking terms again, multiple sources tell Page Six. The pair last saw each other in person at Prince Philip’s funeral in April, and Charles — who has spent several days this week in Barbados as it becomes a republic — has yet to meet his granddaughter Lilibet, born in July.
“Charles was hugely hurt when Harry and Meghan just dumped it on the family they were giving up their roles and moving abroad,” a royal insider told Page Six, referring to Harry and wife Meghan Markle’s decision to “quit” the family. “I don’t think [Harry and Charles] talked for a good while, but now the channels of communication are open.” Still, the insider admitted, “I don’t think it’s all roses. It’s not like they are sitting down for a heart-to-heart on the phone once a week.”
A spokesperson for Charles called the account [in Christopher Andersen’s book] “fiction.” Harry and Meghan have not commented on it, but a highly placed source told The Post this week: “I think people, on both sides of the Atlantic, in the family are united in agreeing they don’t want to give this book any more oxygen.”
As Page Six has reported, the couple and their two children, Lilibet and Archie, will not be joining the royal family, including Queen Elizabeth, for Christmas in the UK. Another source familiar with the royals’ inner workings said of the decision: “I think the family accept the situation. They’re not annoyed. They’re accepting things for how they are.”
Majesty magazine deputy editor Joe Little told Page Six: “There had been some thought that there might be a memorial service for Prince Philip toward the end of this year, but that has not happened. This would have given Harry and Meghan a chance to come over. Clearly, though, a family Christmas would have been a good way of breaking the ice.”
Yeah… none of this is particularly groundbreaking. Even though Harry seemed angry with his father during the Oprah interview, it felt like he was willing to speak to Charles occasionally. While I think there’s substantial beef between father and son, Harry is – I believe – a lot angrier with his brother and with the institution as a whole. As for the Sussexes’ decision to not go to the UK for Christmas… I think they made that call because: A) not wanting to travel internationally with two young children during a pandemic and B) the family has spent the past two years trashing the Sussexes and they don’t get to dictate how and where they get to “play nice” for the holidays. I also think Charles and the Queen are in the “resigned acceptance” phase. Meanwhile, Will and Kate are still ass-deep in their “Keen Clownshow” phase.
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Lili was born in june.
That being said: is it weird that I actually might somewhat believe page six this time? I think charles might want to start salvaging the relationship with his youngest son now that he realized that his oldest won’t hesitate to throw him under the bus. I also think that both sides indeed don’t want to give this book any air. 1. Because it names charles as the royal racist (no matter how many excuses it contains)
2. Because it completely ignores what harry and meghan actually said.
When they can’t even get the easily verifiable details correct, it inspires very little confidence in the rest of the reporting.
I don’t believe this at all. The Sussexes don’t talk to any Murdoch press period, so no “sources” from them. And Charles is desperate to get away from that “royal racist” tag because he knows that is all people will remember. So he’s trying to put this out there that he and Harry are communicating because of course Harry wouldn’t talk to his dad if he were “racist” right? Funny how this story came out after what Christopher Anderson wrote and not before.
@msiam: oh obviously this story has Charles’ hands all over it. What i’m saying is that i believe that there might actually be some truth to it this time. That royal racist claim shook him to the core. So he wants everyone to know that he and harry are talking. Hence this leak. I also think that Charles is looking for an ally now that he realized william can throw him under the bus in the press.
As for harry, i don’t know where things stand now, but in the oprah interview he said very clearly he was open to salvaging the relationship with his father. So again, based of these things i can actually see that there might be some truth to this story
@MsIam My thoughts exactly.
Honestly, that’s where I’ve always been at. Harry was deeply hurt by Charles actions but always seemed open to rebuild. But, William, that’s irretrievably broken. Harry knows and now we know that he was behind the smear campaign and that is simply unforgivable.
I’d be interested to know how they “know” this. I discovered PageSix through CB, and was horrified to learn that they’re part of the NY Post, however: Generally, they usually seem to have a pretty good handle on gossip, and are generally fairly accurate. Or at least they were: I was shocked that Paul Rudd was the sexiest man of the year, because PageSix thought it was Chris Evans. The Sussexes were in NY recently, and if that’s where their sources are, this might be true. If Murdoch is sourcing this from the UK, I do not trust it at all.
Late last year Page Six hired a former Sun editor to come over and bring The Sun’s brand of tabloid journalism (and also royal reporting) to US. So no….Page Six is just an extension of the royal hating Sun. This one article does seem it could hold truth but everything else I’ve seen for at least a year is Meghan bashing trash.
It would be beyond hypocritical for Charles to suddenly want to salvage his relationship with William simply because William is willing to do to Charles what Charles did to him. I think it’s more likely that Charles still believes he should be forgiven for using the press against others because their reputations can be salvaged later. He’s likely saying “well yes, I did let them say awful things, but look how nice they are to you now. So, you can’t still be mad about it.” Which is what he has told his children, siblings, nieces and nephews all their lives. Charles will do anything for good press. Literally anything.
@Chloe: I don’t believe this story because Charles’ interest was always to get William on his side and he has that know. A relationship with Harry is not a priority right now and may never be.
Since when is William on Charles side? William is on his own side, forever and always. Everyone else is chum for the media sharks.
@Snuffles: Tom Bradby said as much as in January 2020. It’s clear that Charles took William’s side in his rift with Harry and acquiesced to William’s demands when Harry decided to leave.
@amybee
That was nearly 2 years ago and a whole lot of shit has gone down since. Including William throwing Daddy under the bus repeatedly. I think Charles might have changed his stance.
Charles is now being back stabbed by silly willy, who refuses to wait his turn in line. Charles desperately needs allies,, but will harry play?. I say the answer should be hell no. Charles played his part in the smearing, so deal with your creation Charlie, and good luck. Advice don’t play fair with silly willy as he will not play fair with you. Just saying.
Honestly, yes, because Charles in this case reminds me of my dad. They are about the same age. My father really tries on race. He is very active in anti-poverty and working with the homeless in our community. He fought hard to keep a local charity providing spots for many poor children in local daycares, rather than building a very expensive new one which would help far fewer kids and parents. But, man he does have some blind spots in terms of attitude. He’s come a long, long way from what he grew up with and is much, much better than almost all his peers, but he would totally ask about what a grand or great-grandchild’s skin color might be. He’d also hope a kid didn’t get a father-in-law’s nose and see these as equal. He’d be horrified to find out that the question was racist and would probably totally overcorrect.
So, yeah. I can totally see how Harry sees Charles as continually fucking up and being kinda racist, but also willing to see the new ways and possibilities.
It namechecks Charles as “a” royal racist.There’s no way there’s only one in that group. Part of what they’re trying to pull is to convince you of the “the”. Don’t fall for it.
You have to have a heart Chuck, to have a heart to heart.
I have no doubt Harry wants a relationship with Charles, the Dad. Unfortunately, Charles can only be Charles, the Heir. He can’t separate the two, Harry knows that Charles, the Heir will always come first.
I think Charles will treat his grandchildren the same way. Already, George seems to be getting the favored treatment. Charles photos one on one with Charlotte (if any of these pictures were even taken) have not been released to the public. Very telling in the family photo that Charlotte had to sit away from him on the other side and he held George in his lap and paid attention to baby Louis, the male children got his attention. But it will be more and more evident how George will be favored. And stories will come out about how
“stubborn” Charlotte is and how Louis is the “impish one.” It’s inevitable IMO. If he sees Archie and Lili at all, is subject to speculation.
How nice of the royals to be “accepting” of Meghan and Harry’s reaction to how horrible and unsupportive they’ve been.
Considering that Charles pulled security AND funding at a time when H&M needed it the most (esp. the security!), AND he has said that Harry’s kids will NOT get titled, if I was Harry, I’d let Charles rot in his own misery of his own creation. Why would I want to talk to him, let alone go back for a visit??
Why would I want to go help him, when he didn’t lift *one* finger*, or say *one*word* in support of his son and his son’s wife for YEARS, or when his grandson was compared to a CHIMP???
Archie and Lili have ONE good grandparent. She more than makes up for the other two miscreants.
I share your outrage. The security is something that cannot be forgotten.
You have to give it up to Charles though, immediately after the book dropped he immediately went on the defensive, if only he had acted like this when Meghan was trashed while pregnant with the grandkids he suddenly cares about. I don’t think Harry has any beef with his dad, they will never be close but In time I believe there will be less friction, the problem is with William and I’m of the opinion that outside official events Harry will never have anything to do with William / Kate and even their kids till he dies.
Even after he dies. I believe he’ll shun them in the afterlife as well.
Charles could have stopped William, he chose not too. His inaction was and is damaging. I think Harry would not help but resent how his father behaved. The Queen does not like to hear “unpleasantness” and she probably just ostriched.
MSN news is kind of friendly towards the Duchess of Çambridge; I’ve noticed that in recents months they have posted articles about her wardrobe, providing links to buy her shoes, coats, etc as if she was a fashion icon
The Kensington palace online bot and paid PR budget is off the roof.
Charles could have seen Harry more often if he hadn’t fled to the countryside when Harry was in town. And that “dumped it on the royals” story is soooo tiresome. How could it have been “dumped” when there were negotiations for months, when H&M offered to be part-time, when there was a 1-year trial period? And even before that, when there were ample opportunities for Charles to support his son and daughter-in-law? Murdoch must really think the royals are idiots.
Nah…just his paper buying/clicking base, who eat this sh!t pie up with a huge spoon!
@Eurydice: Even if we were to believe this story, as you point out, Harry and Meghan didn’t dump their plans to leave on Charles. He was talking to his father for months about it and the only time he put his thoughts on paper it was leaked to press. I have a hard time believing that Harry would be able to get over that betrayal so quickly furthermore Charles was briefing against him after he left the UK.
Charles was just in Barbados he could have asked to meet Harry or Harry and Meghan somewhere in the U.S. (Saint Pete Beach, Florida – the half way mark) for a truth and reconciliation meeting but I doubt that happened.
Argh! i had hoped that Charles would have taken a detour to California to have a private Chat with his son on his way back from Barbados,
I agree @ Lili!! If Chaz feels that he wants to mend his relationship with Harry and Meghan, he should take the initiative to visit them in CA. The fact that they are plugging this theory that Chaz was surprised by their plans is another effort to rewrite history it doesn’t change the truth. The fact that Chaz left them defenseless in Canada is inexcusable. Chaz certainly f___ed that up, therefore he should be groveling to Harry and Meghan. In addition to a sincere apology.
Chaz can’t seem to grow a pair when it comes to Baldimort and he created that monster and now he can live with that monster. Chaz had better sleep with one eye open though!!
I think it would be too hypocritical. Charles burned his bridges when he backed William. It would be too little too late.
This is a Chuck piece. He was deeply hurt? Sure.
Charles is a coward.
A coward indeed. Never stood up for his son, never really supported his son, let his mouth piece and people from the Prince’s trust trash his son and daughter-in-law on twitter. Snatched his security away and leaked his location.
Absolutely! Being a sniveling coward can be very painful. I just have limited sympathy for his cowardice and nastiness
For what it’s worth I always got the impression that Harry was always more hurt by Charles and his lack of support, and kinda just done with William. That’s the main reason Charles tends to get punched the hardest by Harry and he seems to have an almost political answer towards William ( it’s always some iteration of will always be brothers). It’s also why William is always pulling idiot stunts (switching keens Christmas special, leaking how he never leaks etc). While Charles is usually less obvious.
Yeah I think Charles is Harry’s only living parent so of course he’d expect some support from Charles & possibly be more open to repairing that relationship given Diana’s passing. Meghan has had to cut off Thomas but at least Meghan still has Doria.
Also Charles made Camilla non negotiable so Harry might have expected some empathy from him for why Meghan was equally as important to him – i think Harry’s comment on Oprah about Charles having been through similar was aimed at this. Also Harry really stood up for Camilla & helped her path to public acceptance so it must suck that none of them could do that for him & his family.
Harry supported C&C and also supported W&K. He was with W in putting out a statement about backing off of K. So they all have betrayed him.
I don’t think Harry is fond of Camilla but he is polite and courteous to her and he spoke up for her and a lot of it was for his father’s benefit. I don’t think all the public accepts Camilla, tolerate perhaps or not care, but I don’t see her as a figure beloved by the populace. Camilla was NEVER vilified like Meghan is now. Charles had a PR team helping her in the media. Too bad he could not put up some money to help Meghan. Charles still uses “methods” which are not so great to promote Camilla, like having someone like Junor speak ill of his late ex wife. Charles I think is watching his back and is more concerned with William working against him.
I know lm a bit of a sap but l would truly love to see a reunion between Charles and de Sussexs , l believe Megan likes Charles very much and l understand Harry is well pissed off with his Papa but those pictures above of them both are very warm, !!!!
Exactly when are they are supposed to be talking to each other? It’s obvious Harry didn’t tell Charles about Lili’s birth, they didn’t see each other when Harry came over in July and Charles lied about funding Harry and Meghan in his annual report. I don’t believe they are talking because the Times or the Telegraph would have reported it by now.
I am convinced that WIlliam is the one with these broadsides against his father – pushing the cash for access stories, the Camilla makes fart jokes stories, the Charles is a racist stories. We know William is one of those who wants power and control above all else.
Ding ding ding. It completely coincides with the “charles must be skipped” stories.
The more and more I read about this, the more and more Harry and Meghan were smart not to say much about Betty, Philip and to some extent Charles.
The Sussexes knew these idiots would tell on themselves and didn’t need their help in doing so.
There’s no way they were having weekly “heart to heart chats” even before Meg though! Like, do people honestly believe that Charles and Harry were sitting down over hot cocoa and having deep, emotional conversations…ever? It’s just not how the RF operates, esp the older generation. It’s absolutely laughable to think that Harry and Charles were ever talking about subjects heavier than the weather even when they were on speaking terms.
My thoughts exactly. I can’t imagine what constitutes a “heart to heart” talk in that family. I’m sure Diana did it, but none of the Windsors. I mean, after Diana died and Harry went back to school, people there were told NOT to talk to him about his mother. Repression is how they do it.
People have very fixed and naive thoughts on how families particularly , these kinds of families operate. How many times have we seen people clutching their pearls about the Queen being deprived of seeing Lilli and Archie, like a) she doesn’t have other grand/great grand kids b) like she’s some milk and cookies grandma who’s going have them all over and play with them and have fun activities. They can’t even get near her unless she summons you or you make an appointment.
Exactly. It’s been said over the years that the BRF generally only see each other at the handful of family events and they prefer it that way. Hell, even the couples from the monarch to the 2nd in line all basically lived/live separate lives. This isn’t a normal “family” by any means.
More obsession with Christmas. With a pandemic still going on which of them are likely to congregate all together. The Queen is in a high risk group and the grandchildren have children below vaccination age. Why should any of them risk their children’s health for a miserable Sandringham Christmas? Not to mention not getting to spend much time with their babies on their first Christmas.
Christmas with the Vipers! Yes, that’s exactly how I want to spend my holidays. Lol!
If Harry and Charles were talking the one thing I would lock down are the honorifics for the kids. If King Chuck doesn’t issue Letters Patent making Archie HRH the Earl of Dumbarton and Lili HRH the Princess Lilibet of Sussex it confirms you’re the royal racist. And throw in Lili’s christening in the mix. Send over that holy water from the river Jordan and the honiton christening gown. The christening is Zoomed because of the pandemic: the Sussexes, Doria, Archie and Lili. The queen, Chuck and Cam as the grandparents, Eugenie and Jack as godparents. It doesn’t fix the hurt but it helps with the optics.
I see no reason , even without the pandemic why any reasonable person would fly 7 hours to participate in a Christmas where your kids are separated from you most of the day and you have to change your clothes 7 times a day. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
This news tells me that Charles and the men in gray who work under Charles will not keep a secret like Elizabeth can and still does.
Yes!! Leave it to TQ, she certainly has tight lips!! I am certain that the men in grey are not fond of no being in the loop so that they can tattle on her!! My gosh, what a bunch of vipers!! No one can be trusted in that family!
I’m calling BS on this. This story came out because of the book labeling Charles the racist. Once again Charles is using Harry for cover. The fact that the story tries to claim that the Sussexes disapprove of the book is the giveaway. In the Oprah interview, Harry said Charles had started taking his calls and their relationships would need a lot of repairing he didn’t say that repair work was taking place. Since then Charles tried to paint Harry as a liar with the shady way he put out the budget info. And we’ve not had any indication that they have had any contact. Not when Lili was born. Not when Charles had his birthday. Nothing. There hasn’t been any indication of any repair in their relationship until this story which as I said had incredibly suspect timing.
I doubt they talk that much…if at all.
Harry’s not talking to any of them because they leak like old boats.
Hoping Harry doesn’t trust Charles because he’ll be in for more hurt and disappointment. Daddy-O would throw him under a bus again with no problem. Same goes for William, not ever again to be trusted by Harry.
Forgive, but never forget.
I refuse to click but if Sara Lathan wrote it she also invented the Middletons will be at prince Philip’s funeral to comfort William story. So.