Bob Mackie: ‘Nobody else should be seen in’ Marilyn Monroe’s dress

Bob Mackie is a famous costume designer and fashion designer, arguably most famous for collaborations with Cher, Liza Minnelli and Carol Burnett. What I didn’t know before now is that one of Mackie’s first jobs was working with French couturier Jean Louis. Mackie was the one who sketched out the famous dress worn by Marilyn Monroe for the “happy birthday, Mr. President” moment. Add to all of that, Mackie has a history dissing the Kardashians! So of course he had some thoughts about Kim Kardashian wearing Marilyn’s famous Jean Louis dress (which Mackie had originally sketched).

Another person who didn’t love Kim Kardashian’s choices? Fashion designer Bob Mackie, who drew the sketch for the original gown in his early career working as an assistant to Jean Louis. “I thought it was a big mistake,” Mackie tells EW, while previewing the new Turner Classic Movies’ fashion on film series Follow the Thread. “[Marilyn] was a goddess. A crazy goddess, but a goddess. She was just fabulous. Nobody photographs like that. And it was done for her. It was designed for her. Nobody else should be seen in that dress.”

Mackie also echoes historians’ concerns that wearing the gown was undoubtably damaging to its preservation and structural integrity. He was only 23 when he did the sketch for the gown under the direction of Louis, not even knowing what the dress was for besides an original design for Marilyn Monroe to wear.

TCM host Alicia Malone, who spoke with Mackie as part of the network’s forthcoming Follow the Thread series and can be seen on CNN’s Reframed: Marilyn Monroe, also raises concerns for the impact on the gown. “There are all the issues with the actual preservation of the dress and things like oxygen can affect a dress,” she explains. “Usually, these outfits are kept very much in controlled environments and we see that with the Met. The Costume Institute is so careful about how they are handling these historic items. So, it was quite alarming that she was able to wear it. I personally wish she wore a replica instead of the real thing.”

Malone says there are striking similarities between Kardashian and Monroe, however. “You can draw many parallels between Marilyn Monroe and Kim Kardashian in the way that they’re both very publicity savvy,” she notes. “Of course, this was very much a publicity stunt that worked for Kim Kardashian. Marilyn Monroe was someone who also loved to create sensation, as she did with that naked dress. Also, they are women who have changed the ideal beauty of the moment. Marilyn Monroe, when she came in her curves became very popular during the 1950s. And we see a lot of young women vying to look like Kim Kardashian. For better or worse, she’s changed the ideal body shape for women.”

[From EW]

The thing is, Kim didn’t borrow the dress from The Costume Institute. One could argue that a piece of such cultural and fashion significance actually should be in the best kind of museum, under lock and key, where no one could put their grubby little hands on it. But the dress is homed at the Ripley’s Believe It or Not museum. Ripley’s purchased the dress at auction (for $4.8 million) and they’ve been exhibiting it for years. They were the ones who decided to lend it out to Kim. Mackie’s beef should be with them and their poor decision-making. And yes, Kim should have never worn it. She couldn’t fit in it, she couldn’t get it over her ass, it was all a huge mess. And she didn’t even pull it off!

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  1. TOM says:

    An hommage to the dress in a shade closer to Kim’s skin tone would have been smarter.

    • Nicole says:

      Co-sign.

    • Emma says:

      *in a shade closer to Kim’s orange full-body makeup

      • Selene says:

        Exactly Emma, that is not Kim’s natural skin tone. She either tanned or had body makeup on.

    • Colby says:

      THIS!! The reason the dress caused such a stir, aside from being tight, was that it was close to the color of MMs skin, making her look naked.

      Kim’s skin, even without fake tan, is too dark to match the dress.

  2. Nicole says:

    My beef has always been that she should have reached out to Mackie and done a solid replica. She is Armenian and with an olive complexion. Marilyn had very very fair skin. So the impact of the naked dress wasn’t there. The stunt casting worked in that we’re still talking about it, but it was so extremely selfish and poorly executed IMO.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Now that could have been interesting. I’m wondering if he would have though, if he’s spoken negatively about them before. But he’s absolutely right. And he’s as much a legend as Jean Louis. I had no idea he sketched the original! Jean Louis made a very similar dress for Marlene Dietrich (googled a bit to see Marilyn in the dress; KK is not fit to hold her purse).

    • Sumodo1 says:

      Well said. This dress was fragile from the night MM ripped it and had to be sewn in.

  3. Kaye says:

    I have no qualms about her wearing the dress. But I find it ironic that it didn’t fit (despite drastic weight loss) and she had to keep her butt covered with a coat!

  4. tmbg says:

    I didn’t realize that was Marilyn’s actual dress that she wore! I tend to tune out and glaze over when I hear the name Kardashian. This family cheapens everything. Kim even has Jackie Kennedy’s Cartier watch. 🙄

    • Lolaispretty says:

      Sad that they can turn one of the most iconic dresses as mundane as they are. Up next…Audrey Hepburn’s Sabrina dress.

      Gagh.

      • BeanieBean says:

        No!!! Not the Givenchy!

      • booboocita says:

        I saw “Sabrina” for the first time on TV when I was about six or seven, and I’ve been in love with that dress ever since. Hepburn twirling on the tennis court, making the skirt/train flare behind her, is a look I’ll never forget. If KK gets her hands on that dress, I will reach for pitchforks and torches.

      • SnoodleDumpling says:

        How in the flying ratburger hell is Kim Kardashian going to fit into literally ANYTHING that Audrey Hepburn wore. HOW.

  5. Dee says:

    Let’s state the obvious. Monroe had a naturally voluptuous body. Kim is a skinny girl who used cosmetic enhancements to engineer a curvy body. Being human, she far overdid it till her look is now outside of ordinary proportions for a skinny or even a white woman. When as Black people, we talk about the murky eugenics of “body-filling” plastic surgery, wealthy people of all color who have become dependent on it to feel good get upset. But there’s a darkness to changing oneself so drastically like that, especially to mimic a “perfect” Black woman’s form while jettisoning the “unwanted” parts of Blackness. There’s a moral cost involved.

  6. emmi says:

    I’ve read and watched a few fashion historians and people who work for museums etc. discuss this and I think most people can agree that this dress is so iconic that it should be off limits. Where do we draw the line though? Garments from which century are history and shouldn’t be touched? Should they be left alone if they are one-of-a-kind or pieces where only a few have survived or in general? What if they are purchased by private collectors? I keep thinking about Princess Dianas dressed that were auctioned off. Let’s pray nobody ever gets any ideas ….

    Kim didn’t even look all that great in the dress. She could have done an hommage but no, she loves the outrage.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Interesting point you bring up, about the Diana dresses. Had I bought one, I think I would have bought it because it’s pretty & would have worn it for special occasions. And as long as I’m fantasizing about having that kind of money, I probably would have had it altered to fit me; it would have had to go to the cleaners a few times (I do spill things on myself), so I don’t know. I’m of a mind that, if you personally own something special–say, gramma’s spongeware mixing bowl–use it! Gramma’s ballgown? Wear it! But if whatever it is is now in a museum? It’s there to be curated & preserved; but more importantly, it’s there to be shared with as many people as come to see whatever it is. In this case, Marilyn’s dress? Should never have left the building. And I would suggest if any of Diana’s dresses ended up in a museum, the same thing.

      • emmi says:

        I was thinking of Diana’s dresses because she just had so very many. And many went to private collectors. I also think the ice blue Versace she wore for a shoot with Demarchelier is probably the most beautiful gown she’s ever worn and she looks stunning in the pictures. It was auctioned off years ago and while I probably couldn’t fit my left leg into that gown, I would stare at it for hours if I owned it. Come to think of it, how do private collectors display these clothes if at all? I have so many questions.

      • C says:

        I don’t think most private collectors display these exhibits beyond in their homes. Which is a shame given that in most cases they won’t be properly preserved.

        It all boils down to what funding and resources you have, in museum work.

      • Susan says:

        BTW there is a great IG account that follows and tracks old clothes of Diana’s, from both the auction and just second hand/resale roundabouts. It’s always amazing to me how bland and dull and uninteresting the outfits look on the mannequin…Diana really did bring them to life.

      • windyriver says:

        Speaking of Diana‘s dresses, I don’t know who bought it originally, but at least one of the most famous, the navy velvet dress she wore dancing with John Travolta at the White House, is now in the collection (and being preserved by) Historic Royal Palaces. They bought it at an auction in 2019 for about $300,000.

      • TigerMcQueen says:

        @emmi, I now someone who bought one of the Golden Girl’s (Dorothy’s I think) house robes years ago at an auction. She had it displayed in her house on a mannequin. She was a HUGE GG fan and we’d tease her about wearing it, but she said other than once after she bought, she’d never put it back on.

  7. L4Frimaire says:

    The thing is Kardashian couldn’t go into the Mets vault and borrow one of the gowns from there. They’d fire their curator if anything like that happened. She had a replica anyway and the dress will be damaged due to this. I think people are focusing too much on Kim, but think this Ripley’s museum has no integrity and will probably do this again until the dress is seriously damaged.

  8. Rnot says:

    Surprised no one is talking about how bad her hair color looked. She had the time and money to do this look right but instead she just looked off.

    • Jennifer says:

      Seriously should have just gotten a wig. Her hair looks terrible and pulled back like that is even worse.

  9. Amyk says:

    Kim wore a copy of the dress after the ridiculous red carpet walk. She should have just worn the replica and called it an homage. But no one would be talking about her then, right?

  10. CQ says:

    Clearly you can’t buy yourself an image by wearing another woman’ s drawers. You either have the “it” factor or you spend time copying. I’m side eyeing you,Kim/Kate.

  11. Ana170 says:

    I really don’t understand why this continues to be an issue. I get the frustration with Kim’s comments about losing weight but otherwise, why does anyone care? And it’s not that she’s not pulling it off. The dress is drab and ugly and is only notable for who originally wore it and when.

  12. Rea says:

    Kim does not look good. She looks yuck. That dress is so beautiful and she looks so bad in it. She does not have the IT factor to pull it off. She should have commissioned a dress for herself instead. Man Kim hopefully you did not ruin the dress

  13. JOH says:

    On MM the fitting and construction and the crystals were magic.
    Even KK can’t erase that.
    On KK it resembled a bedazzled chicken skin.