Kay: The Sussexes’ popularity is ‘corrosive to the well-being of the monarchy’

Roya Nikkah and Camila Tominey weren’t the only ones getting openly briefed by Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace throughout the past week. Mail columnist Richard Kay has also been doing the most to present the unhinged mindset of the Windsors to Mail readers. It’s remarkable how BP and KP have leaked the same fundamentally flawed argument to every friendly royal reporter and royal columnist. That flawed argument: how dare Prince Harry tell people about how we’ve abused him and denigrated his wife. That’s it. That’s the sum total of the Windsors’ beef with Harry, that he’s dared to speak about how poorly he’s been treated and how poorly Meghan has been treated. Abusers thrive in silence, and the Windsors are abusive. From Kay’s latest Mail column:

Vanity: For a moment the squabbles over uniform seemed unworthy, the saga over insignia an irrelevance. In Westminster Abbey, which has borne witness to truly momentous chapters in Britain’s history, the vanity of Prince Andrew and Prince Harry was reduced to mere petty detail.

King Charles understands the Sussexes’ fame? But he understands, too, that the synthetic fame represented by California-based Prince Harry and Meghan, with their huge social media following, is corrosive to the long-term well-being of the monarchy. It seems to be built on a misplaced sense of victimhood. Charles’s hope is that, having been so much part of the spectacular events of the past week and a half, his son finally realises that the qualities of duty and service celebrated in the national outpouring of heartfelt affection for the Queen are the true measure of popularity. It may be a forlorn hope.

Charles is mad that Harry was deeply hurt by the removal of his ER insignia: Allowing it to be made known that having the Queen’s initials removed from his Army uniform when he stood vigil on Saturday night over his grandmother’s coffin has left him devastated, suggests that Harry has not learnt this lesson. It would seem he has still not grasped the consequences of quitting royal life. His decision to abandon it is why, at the funeral and other key events, he was not permitted to wear the military attire that means so much to him.

Phone calls to QEII: Harry yesterday was not just mourning the loss of a grandmother — she was also the figure to whom in his anguish he turned as his royal life unravelled. There is no doubt that grandson and monarch had a close bond. The Queen’s staff have told me how, in the early days of Harry’s exile in America, the Queen would excitedly take his phone calls. Over time this changed and she later became perplexed by Harry’s complaints.

Written out: For Harry the breathtaking events of the Queen’s obsequies can have left him in no doubt that unless he is prepared to accept the olive branch extended so generously by his father, he is in danger of being written out of the royal story. He must surely be reflecting, too, on how his brother William has offered reconciliation, standing or marching at his side for all the important events, from the lying-in-state to the funeral. He could so easily be restored to the heart of the family.

[From The Daily Mail]

The absolute pretzel logic of that insane insignia debacle. Harry was “allowed” to wear a uniform at the grandchildren’s vigil on Saturday night. Hours after the vigil, it was reported in the Murdoch press that Harry was upset because the “ER” insignia had been removed from the uniform, one more attempt to humiliate him. I have my doubts that Harry even leaked that information – I think it was William and Charles briefing against Harry to shame him and embarrass him. And Kay assumes that Harry leaked it and since Harry leaked it, Charles is mad because he was trying to humiliate his son quietly, with no leaks? These people are disgusting, my god.

Anyway, the more Charles and William brief against Harry, the more everyone realizes that the Sussexes are the whole show now. There have even been quiet admissions over the past week, that the monarchy needs Harry a lot more than he needs the monarchy. Also: “with their huge social media following, is corrosive to the long-term well-being of the monarchy.” The family is mad that social media users and mainstream international media are supportive of H&M. The family is mad that the Sussexes are popular and that H&M aren’t going to come crawling back. All of this sh-t that’s gone down over the past two weeks has been so poorly played by the Windsors because they made the fundamental miscalculation that Harry & Meghan need them. The Sussexes don’t need them. And the Windsors are losing their f–king minds about it.

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  1. K says:

    This reporter is frothy with insanity and rage. Wtf is “synthetic fame ” aside from a great name for a punk band? Sorry BRF, H and M are over your shit. They have a family they enjoy, worthwhile projects and good friends. The best revenge is living well don’t ya know.

    • MakeEverydayCount says:

      The Queen provided a buffer between sanity and the unhinged and determined need to bring Harry to heel by Charles and William. Now that The Queen has passed thus the buffer, all is laid to bare. New titles, money and power will not change the simple fact: Two men trapped by birth determine to destroy the one that got away.

      • Josephine says:

        I don’t think Charles feels trapped by birth. There was a good article recently about how he has used his position to quietly amass a fortune in land and other assets.

      • Christine says:

        Seriously, MakeEverydayCount, it’s clear that now that the queen is gone, the briefings are going nuclear. Turns out she was protecting Harry, at least somewhat. Now, it’s open season for the nuts.

      • MakeEverydayCount says:

        @Josephine: Not my words but Harry’s. So respectfully I think Harry knows more about the situation than you and me.
        @Christine: 100% Agree

    • dee(2) says:

      That’s such a bizarre line. Why is their fame synthetic? Is it their vocal supporters who use their actual names and faces on social media, and raise tons of money for charity? The celebrities who defend them, the organizations who gush about working with them? Is their fame synthetic in contrast to the “organic” fame of the BRF? This seems to boil down to they thought everyone would either point and laugh at Meghan and Harry while they were there, or that everyone would be clamoring for them to return. Since neither happened and their limited playbook which is essentially, you should want to be in my presence and I’ll deign to allow it, landed like a lead balloon they are stuck.

      • The Duchess says:

        They wanted the public to boo Harry & Meghan at the Jubilee. They wanted the public to boo Harry & Meghan during the funeral processions. Neither happened and they simply can’t cope with it all.

      • Angela says:

        I their warped mind, the only “real” fame has to come from the family. Harry & Meghan have proven those folks on salt island need them, not the other way around.

      • B says:

        Guess what they’re going to do next?
        They’re going to prove they can’t learn from their past eff ups and I’m gonna have my popcorn ready.

      • Tan says:

        I think it’s the same as it was during 2018 – the Sussexes were suppose to fail, Meghan was suppose to do direct to dvd movies and Harry was supposed to be sitting on his thumbs missing his royal life while his family and the royal rota and the Sussex uk haters were going to laugh and scorn them and use them as an example for falling out of the White supremacy life. The fact they came out becoming much more popular with another child and the much coveted wealth, fame from sources that the British monarchy can only dream of (excluding Charles and the new prince of wales riches wise cause private billionaire status hard to argue with) is unfathomable. And it’s so clear now after a mass destruction amount of lies, racism and vitriol during the funeral makes its super hard to look away. Like high key a shit friend who looks at your successes with such scorn and jealousy but says that you just pulled some basic bitch stuff and you should give up while the getting is good. Like some deep insecurity and ugly racism and classics manifesting as some sort of evil

      • Kari says:

        They were expecting Harry and Meghan to be the Duke and Duchess of Windsor 2.0 – they thought that H&M would be languishing in CA, sad that they were no longer being sir’d and madam’d and curtsied to by everyone. But Harry has said multiple times that he doesn’t care about all that – he even wants people to call him just Harry, and not Prince Harry. And Meghan, while American like Wallis Simpson, is a totally different person. Both Harry and Meghan are not interested in what the BRF is selling. They don’t want any of it. I think the BRF was really banking on them not being able to support themselves and needing funds (like the Duke of Windsor, who bothered his niece for funds until the end of his life) so that they would still have that to hold over them to control them. But H&M have and are making their own money, so the BRF doesn’t have any leverage.

    • UNCDancer says:

      It just speaks to how insular the thinking is. For these people, the only thing that matters is royalty. They cannot comprehend that people may be well regarded in a way that has absolutely nothing to do with birthright. Or maybe they do and it scares them silly. Because the house of cards that is the UK right now relies on everyone believing the people at the very top deserve to be there.

      • Soapboxpudding says:

        You nailed it! This is ultimately about preserving the class system. Harry is such a threat because he chose to walk away from what everyone is supposed to want.

      • Christine says:


      • Nicki says:

        @uncdancer: Yes, exactly. And that mindset made them expect H&M to fail while on their own. As the Wailses surely would have, in the same situation. Instead the Sussexes are a charismatic and thriving couple who people are fascinated by, and the royal family they left behind are completely overshadowed. It’s a situation of their own and ongoing making. Such fools.

      • Ann says:

        “They cannot comprehend that people may be well regarded in a way that has absolutely nothing to do with birthright.” EXACTLY.

    • ShazBot says:

      These people are psychotic and poisoned on their own kool-aid.

      But how insidious is it that they leak about how Harry feels and then use it against him saying he leaked?? Harry would never leak to Murdoch press, it was a play by BP for sure and it’s disgusting. Charles probably thought he was so smart with that one. Asshole.

      • AnnaKist says:

        As far as the insignia was concerned, what was there too leak? I had people over the night of the grand children’s vigil. We had the Telly on and one of my friends were scrolling through her phone looking at all the latest news about this funeral. There was a live stream and her husband immediately jumped up and said, “ He doesn’t have the insignia!” He was in the Royal Australian Engineers Corps, and is a military buff. Once he pointed it oit was impossible to unsee. Even if no one leaked it before the vigil, The world would have become aware of it in seconds. Either way this was just another power play to deliberately upset Harry.

        They are too dense to see that the solution is so very simple: treat Harry, Meghan and the children with love,respect and support.

    • Moxylady says:

      It’s genuinely crazy making just watching it happen to them. The media and Charles rabidly attacked everything about them. Leaked their petty behind the scenes humiliations. And still act as though they need to grovel and beg for forgiveness for living and for forcing the royal family to abuse them. I hate it so much.

      • Ceej says:

        It’s also very “cut your nose to spite your face” to be briefing against them if you really believe their fan base is built on a “misplaced sense of victimhood”. Surely… if you stopped briefing, they couldn’t be victims and their fans would go. I mean what are they teaching royals at boarding school instead of common sense? How to hide money and deny commoners the right to buy the land they… oh no yes no I see. Yes that is what they’re teaching over common sense.

      • Surly Gale says:

        @Moxylady so well said. “forcing the royal family to abuse them”. I think that’s EXACXTLY how they look at things.

    • usavgjoe says:

      LOLOLOLOL I’m loving it!

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ K, that stuck in my crawl as well. There is no “synthetic fame”, it all genuine and growing by the day.

      KCIII had a golden opportunity to show the world that Harry, as well as Meghan, are still loved, opposed to KCIII’s hollow words. But KCIII and his jealousy, petty and deplorable son are absolutely aghast that Harry and Meghan, though no longer working royals, are cheered, loved, admired and cherished all the world over.

      An admiration that neither Charles nor TOB will ever experience in their lifetimes no matter how much they do for people as they do not have the “IT” factor and never will.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        The popularity of the Sussexes will go down in history the way Diana did — how a king’s son created a global brand that outshone a (sooner or later defunct) monarchy. What will Charles and William’s legacy be? Probably one of them will be the final monarch, so that would automatically cement them in history. But other than that, their legacy and their reputation — if the are remembered by history at all — will be how they bullied a decorated family member and his biracial wife, and as a result lost their own standing on the world stage.

    • JRo says:

      Also, the use of ‘California-based’ as an insult LOL

  2. nutella toast says:

    If social media followers mean nothing, why are you idiots buying bots? The classic, “Well, I didn’t want it anyway” of every 8 year old.

    • Becks1 says:

      Also, H&M don’t have social media. I mean they did with IG and they broke records lol, but they don’t at this point. it must just really bother the palaces that H&M have a huge number of fans on social media without accounts.

      • Laura D says:

        Let’s also remember that real accounts on social media call out the crape Kay and his cronies spew out on H&M. I’ve lost count of the number of times the Fail and/or their reporters have trended negatively because of their lies and misinformation. It must be killing them that their smear campaigns can no longer go unquestioned.

    • KFG says:

      Exactly. All of the kp and ch bots came out with the same 5 talking points in every mention on Twitter. Like it was obvious what the truth was by which posts the bots swarmed, #kkkate being a jealous mean girl and she and willy divorcing, Chuck being unpopular, racist, and being dismissed by the world leaders, and any story saying that Harry did not want any part of royal life. Chuck and Co are shortsighted and ignorant.

      • SAS says:

        Yes @KFG the repeated buzzwords! I think I’ve read “victimhood” in relation to M&H more in the last week than in the last two years! So transparent.

      • Dee says:

        The thing is, what the royal family now presents itself as are two wicked old ghouls and a second generation consisting of haggard and bald. Not to mention lazy af. In today’s celebrity culture, that is a very hard sell. Schadenfreude, everyone!

    • Ginger says:

      Exactly. All of W&K “fans”’are bots. I don’t think they have many actual fans.

      It’s clear the RF is terrified of Harry and Meghan’s popularity on social media. They kept trending during the funeral. Harry trended twice in one week for being hot. They have gained so many more supporters since the funeral. The RF and British press are very dumb for thinking that they are shaming Harry when the world is seeing their racism and are calling it out. These articles make Charles and the RF look horrible and they are too stupid to see it.

      • SomeChick says:

        you’re right, they don’t have many acttual human fans. someone did some analysis showing that a tiny number of accounts are responsible for like 90% of the smearing. they just get repeated and repeated and repeated. it’s essentially astroturfing.

      • Green girl says:

        There are a few people (and I am sad I know some of them) who recognize that H&M were mistreated during the funeral and other events in the last two weeks. However these individuals seem to think it serves H&M right because….I’m not sure exactly. Like they saw the crappy behavior (ex the missing insignia) and saw it as payback. It’s gross!

    • ML says:

      I can see Richard Kay, the senior citizen editor-in-chief of the Daily Fail, feeling somewhat threatened by that new-fangled social media thing they call the internet. Terrible when people have multiple ways to venture their opinions—how synthetic!

    • ShazBot says:

      SussexSquad scares the shit out of them because they are a) real, b) have a ton of receipts, and c) retweet defences and drop receipts in the threads of people spreading lies

      SussexSquad is giving them a run for their money on keeping their narrative, and on Twitter and TikTok, I think it’s working.

  3. Brit says:

    The monarchy is stupid. They should’ve used it to their benefit and not got jealous because the more they attack her and Harry, the more people sympathize and call them out. I’ve never seen idiots continuing to shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly and then expect a different result. Harry and Meghan are popular because they became too obsessed with humbling them that it backfired. Tell your press sycophants to back off but they won’t because even they know who the real stars are.
    Stop living in this world of delusion that the Sussexes are unpopular and that the Wales’ are a god and goddess walking the earth. It’s cringe and not based in reality. It’s almost like they’re trying to manifest it.

    • Emily says:

      Charles and William just can’t see how they are wrong. They were raised from birth to believe they are perfect, so of course they are narcissists.

      Everyone reading these articles can see the obvious gaslighting and pettiness. But C & W cannot see how bad it looks because of their fragile self image. So they’ll continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

      • SussexWatcher says:

        I agree, Emily. And not only can’t they not understand they’re in the wrong, they (and the establishment and RRs and many Brits) just cannot fathom that Harry and Meghan DO NOT WANT TO RETURN and really can’t have made that more clear.

        To all of them, being royal is the pinnacle of life, it’s what (they believe) everyone would want to be so they just can’t understand that Harry and Meghan have said hell to the no to that life. That’s why they continue to believe that Harry is waiting for “an olive branch” and that he’d be willing to throw his own children away to “be welcomed back into the royal fold” and spend his life as his brother’s helpmate or the third wheel to the Wailses, cheering up the poor neglected wife of the heir. And why they continue to believe that Meghan – like Kkkate – should be willing to put up with any indignity, racist attack, humiliation, cheating, etc just to get back in.

        IMO, they really do not/can not believe that Harry (and Meghan) don’t want back in because it’s what they all aspire to or have been brainwashed to believe is the goal of life. So no matter how many times Harry says it (even in videos of him from his teens and 20s) they don’t believe him when he says he hated it and couldn’t wait to leave England.

      • Tursitops says:

        How interesting all this chatter is about what is causing the downfall of the monarchy. Such short memories that these people have. If Cammy had been a little more patient, Chuckles had exercised some autonomy and the queen herself a little more open-minded 50 years ago then all of this could’ve been avoided.

    • Misa says:

      There’s another article on the DM, prominently placed, that instead is quite critical of Charles, very explicitly so. The author berates him and the RF for having humiliated Harry and for mistreating him to make him a class B son. She also heavily criticizes Harry’s treatment being worse than what Andrew got. The tide is indeed turning. Even the disparaging comments about Meghan are kept to a minimum and the word love is used (albeit in terms of Harry having erred for love, but still: no mention of brainwashing or manipulation). The tide is turning, good luck to Charlie and Willie.

      • Brit says:

        @Misa: I don’t think the tide is turning. It’s desperation and fear. I think these people are beginning to realize just how fragile the monarchy is and the press are tired of losing money and want their golden geese back. This is motivated by lack of control, anger, money and desperation. The reason they can’t stand Meghan is because in supporting Harry, they became a team and are living their lives for themselves and no one else. They can’t manipulate and abuse him anymore. They hate what she represents. The problem now is that they have radicalized these haters in the press and social media to the point that they can’t stop. It’s turned into an obsession and too much has been said and done. Harry and Meghan are done and they all know it.

      • Kels says:

        @msiam hate to be a Debbie downer but unless DM sustains that for more than 1 article then the tide is not turning. They’ve done this before and gone right back to their nasty selves as soon as Meghan releases something.
        I think what might be different now is maybe less people believing the lies.
        It’s too soon to tell.

      • SussexWatcher says:

        For me though, I don’t believe any articles like that in the Fail. It’s a trap and they’ll be back to spouting off their usual racist bullsh- any minute. IMO they are only putting out those articles because they’ve seen the international response to how Harry and Meghan were treated and are on the bandwagon. The Fail is a racist POS tabloid so the tide will never turn with them IMO.

      • sparrow says:

        Misa. I am with you slightly. I think the overall feeling towards H&M, constantly being whipped up by the tabloids, is still negative, and that the drip feed of nasty is essentially from the palaces as always. But there have been some think pieces reflecting people’s surprise, and it shouldn’t be surprise, that H&M returned with such dignity and togetherness, and that they have remained uncowed. Articles said Meghan was boo’d at the Windsor walkabout. People there said she wasn’t. I think there was one person who turned away or something. I believe the girl who gave Meghan a hug symbolised for many how much they have been missed. Some writers are picking up on it – they can see the disconnect between H&M’s grace and the palaces’ hate. Although, I agree with others also, sometimes the DM posts these stories to get the knee jerk haters clicking away.

      • Debbie says:

        So, no comparable articles about Charles being heckled or greeted with signs saying “Not my king” though, right? What about someone getting arrested because they were protesting Charles, in the mildest way, by holding up a blank sign of protest to him — nothing in the BM about that though, I see. By choosing to ignore negative stories about Charles and the gang, but elevating negative stories about Meghan and Harry, the BM is tacitly contributing to the abuse and hostility against them. I know I’m preaching to the choir somewhat but it does bear repeating because it also protects Charles’ bubble and ensures he’ll continue to think everyone loves him.

    • Eurydice says:

      And what does “true measure of popularity” even mean? There can be degrees of popularity, but it’s just what people like.

    • Eleonor says:

      I mean these are the same people who are gaslighting Diana even in her grave. They are not the brightest bulbs.

  4. Seaflower says:

    If there is any vanity, its on Chuckles, Willnot and the rests’ part (including Prince Pedo). Harry is beyond that.

    • SarahCS says:

      That’s what really gets me in all of this (well, other than the outright cruelty to the Sussexes), all these things they attribute to H&M are what matter to THEM. Enjoy California and your lovely family Harry and Meghan, leave these clowns far behind.

  5. Genevieve says:

    “But he understands, too, that the synthetic fame represented by California-based Prince Harry and Meghan, with their huge social media following, is corrosive to the long-term well-being of the monarchy. It seems to be built on a misplaced sense of victimhood.”

    Sure, Charles. Let’s interpret the present through smeared lenses and ignore the past. As if their popularity only sprang into existence the moment they left. As if they weren’t hugely popular before, and as if that popularity didn’t inspire teeth-gnashing envy amongst the rest of the Firm.

    How’d you like that ‘non-synthetic’ fame, then, huh?

    • SAS says:

      If “synthetic fame” can corrode the monarchy then its not very strong is it?

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      THIS. They were famous and popular BEFORE walking away from that toxic family. And the other royals hated them for it and were jealous. But that puts the royals in a bind, doesn’t it? They need Harry and Meghan to return because they need their star power (yes, the Sussexes have star power, there’s nothing wrong with that). The rest of the family are dullards. But if the Sussexes do return, they will continue to out-shine Charles and William, and we can’t have THAT. So the royals are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The best they can do is try to tear down Harry’s and Meghan’s popularity so the others don’t look so unpopular by comparison.

      • Mary S says:

        I’m no PR professional. But, it seems to me the best path forward for the RF would be to sincerely wish H&M well, to celebrate their successes, work collaboratively when the opportunity presents itself and emulate their sincere concern for others. Oh, never mind. We’re talking about the RF.


      By constantly referencing Willie and KKKate’s threatened visit to the US, it’s clear that they are on the hunt for some of that “synthetic fame” for themselves.

  6. Lolo86lf says:

    Prince Harry realized years ago that his happiness lies with his beautiful American bi-racial wife and their two children. He chose to move out of England thousands of miles away from the caustic, toxic BM, tabloids and royal family. Much like his mother Diana he chose freedom and love. He said screw royal titles, money and pomp. Harry does not need those things to be happy.

  7. Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

    If your 1000 yr old monarchy can be brought down by 2 people living in another country, then it really can’t be much of a monarchy, can it?

    • Startup Spouse says:

      Charles is the frog in the pot that is beginning to boil. He refuses to believe the temperature is rising. It will be the end of the monarchy, and he won’t know why.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      Harla – This is what is so utterly crazy – the weakness of the monarchy, by their own admission (and they don’t even consciously see what they’re doing). If Chuck the Turd had any sense whatsoever (and was not such an insecure, petty, small man) or if his courtiers had any sense, they would completely ignore the Sussexes and stop talking about them and leaking about them. Because all their leaking (and gnashing of teeth and complaints and olive branches) does is show how powerful and popular the Sussexes are! If they were – as the royals and courtiers say – desperate to come back, failing, bankrupt, then just let them get on with it and you (Chuck) would have the upper hand. All they are doing is giving the Sussexes more power and (with their deranged behavior) hastening the demise of the monarchy.

      It’s wild to me that no one can get this through to anyone in charge over there. That sycophantic echo chamber over there must be deafening.

      • 2cents says:

        The weakness of the monarchy is the outcome of the “quid pro quo” devil’s pact they have made with the tabloids. They are trapped by the invisible contract. The royals don’t have enough royal content to satisfy the hungry media beast and become increasingly desperate.

        The “Bad Four” (instead of the fab four) CC and WK can leak all they want to smear H&M but they cannot fill the huge PR gap that QEII has left behind. They have to start from scratch in their new roles.

        Their anti Sussex narrative is old and repetitive. People are sick of it, measuring by the massive positive response for H&M on social media during the mourning period, the declining sales of tabloids and Piers M’s disastrous downfall.
        Changing titles alone will not cut it for the Windsors. This is a new era where people will question the need for a monarchy given the cost.

        It will take years to build a new brand for themselves post EQII and gain support from the public. KC3 has integrity issues; he made his bed and has to lie in it. Diana’s shadow is long.

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  8. tour malinn says:

    It is just heartbreaking. That is all that I can say now.

    • Lady D says:

      Yes and no. I can tell you my heart is a lot happier knowing they are (relatively) safe and successful in California. They are probably doing better than even they dreamed. Harry’s heart will probably always give him some pain over toxic familial connections, but he has some incredible successes in the plus column.

      • tour malinn says:

        Thank you for this comment @Lady D 🙂 I like the idea that he is safe and happy with his beautiful and talented wife and adorable children now, but I do know – as you do – that the pain will never leave him on some level. As a friend put it when her husband died, “I will have to just accept to live with this pain and not expecting it to go away, forever.”

  9. Miranda says:

    Somehow, I still find it remarkable that the Windsors make such a breathtaking overestimate of their own value. The Commonwealth has been disintegrating before their eyes, to the point that multiple royals have been told TO THEIR FACES that they are racist relics of a shameful past, and that it was QEII for whom they still had some small measure of respect (more of an obligatory “respect your elders” sentiment than any real fondness) that was in any case absolutely NOT transferrable to Charles or William. But sure, HARRY is the oblivious one, Harry needs THEM. 😂😂😂

    • Liz Version 700k says:

      Miranda you made me think of Kaiser’s point in such a broader picture. The Windsors are abusive as Has been well documented – especially by the Celebitchy crew and social media fans refusing to be silenced. But your point is excellent. The Windsors are relics of racism, colonialism and greed. They literally had an abusive relationship with the world. They colonized entire countries and abused them for centuries. They killed anyone telling them to stop being “abusive.” They were thrown out of country after country until eventually they lost power to a government that still embraces the traditions of this abusive relationship with their Commonwealth countries. And now at the end of it all (I think this is the beginning of the end of this Monarchy) the only ones they can abuse are each other. These people are the relics of petty racists tyrants who destroy their own children because they have been stopped from destroying other people’s children. I realize I am simplifying 1000’s of years of history, but if you would kill thousands of people to rule over land, why wouldn’t you try to destroy one son (and his family that you are too racist to even acknowledge as people) to stop him from leaving? Abusive is the Windsors “birthright.” Good for Harry for rejecting it.

  10. Becks1 says:

    I think you nailed it Kaiser. This outrage is bc the Windsors may have finally realized that the Sussexes don’t need them, but they need the Sussexes. Will they act accordingly? If this article is any indication, they will not.

    I do “love” how they keep acting like Harry is desperate to come back and to be welcomed into the heart of the family again etc. Um, did these people forget when harry said “bye?” Did these people forget when, a year after he said “bye,” he said “nope, we’re good, we’re out here in California living our best lives, see ya at some point”? He’s not desperate to come back, but the Windsors are desperate to have him back (or rather, desperate for him to want to come back, you know?)

    As for this line – “he understands, too, that the synthetic fame represented by California-based Prince Harry and Meghan, with their huge social media following, is corrosive to the long-term well-being of the monarchy.”

    What is synthetic fame? Is that telling people they must love you because of your bloodline, and telling people they aren’t allowed to criticize you while the government spends millions on your funeral, making the country shut down for 10 days so everyone can properly mourn the 96 year old who died of natural causes? Is that synthetic?

    Because the reason Harry and Meghan have the level of fame they have now, at this level, is because people actually love them. they love what they do, they love how they use their fame, they love how they are as a couple. Nothing synthetic about it.

    But this article is right about one thing….H&M’s popularity IS corrosive to the long term popularity of the monarchy. It shows the toxic and petty Windsors for who they are, it shows the pointlessness of their “lives of service,” it shows how unnecessary the monarchy is, how worthless all its trappings are.

    And that’s a problem for KCIII.

    • Merricat says:

      Well said, Becks!

    • Chloe says:

      I think the synthetic part is supposed to be synonymous for fake or manufactured. As in he’s implying that harry and meghan are inly popular on social media and it’s not organic.

      • Becks1 says:

        So…..you mean he’s saying they’re buying bots on social media?? LOLOL

      • MsIam says:

        @Chloe, I guess Richard Kay missed the genuine love and support the Sussexes got at the walkabout. That didn’t seem synthetic at all. And because no one knew the Sussexes were coming, not even the press, how could it have been “manufactured”? Once again the BM keep aiming their arrows at Harry and Meghan and missing by a mile.

    • Brit says:

      Support for Harry and Meghan went through the roof over these last few weeks. Starting with Meghan’s podcast becoming a mega hit, the Germany crowd loved them and welcomed them with open arms and then the one world speech and their reaction there. I noticed even before the Queen died, there was a slight shift in tone. Then the family got even more backlash with the Sussex bashing when the Queen died. Not only that, you had the BM attacking Americans and peoples around the world because they weren’t celebrating the Queen. I think many got a glimpse of the hubris and egotistical delusional of Brexit Britain and it wasn’t a pretty sight. That media is going to be the downfall of many.

      • Miranda says:

        Whoa, the BM were seriously attacking other countries for not “celebrating” the Queen enough? I totally missed that! Can you give an example?

      • Liz Version 700k says:

        One example I saw is “outrage” at the New York Times for 3 stories criticizing the funeral circus. They noted in at least one story that the expense of the international funeral marathon vs. the reality of the problems in England and internationally was not sensible and the British Press lost their minds. Oh haha the link I found is the Daily Fail ..of course it is


      • Laura D says:

        @Miranda – You should seek out some of Trevor’s Noah’s clips on Youtube. He was respectful but, he let it be known the countries of Africa wouldn’t be mourning TQ’s loss. He also does a very funny clip about KCIII and the pens. But, the serious clip is the one about the monarchy and the colonialism of Africa.

      • WiththeAmerican says:

        They chose to isolate themselves with conservative led and Russian supported brexit. Now they are isolated.

        They seem to think they can have it all. Isolation and world domination. Lol.

      • AnneL says:

        LizVersion, I saw the whinging about the New York Times’ coverage. It was so pathetic. The NYT is an American freaking newspaper, not a Royalist rag. The Queen’s death was big news and they needed to cover it, which they did. But her reign and her very existence, along with that of her family, is a complex issue and needs to be covered from all angles.

        They did their job, and the Brits were salty that they didn’t spend ten days blowing smoke up the Windsor’s asses. I don’t even really like the Times any more (good reporting but poor management and editorial work), and I was in their corner yelling BS.

    • Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

      Right on, Becks1.
      The Windsors have interpreted Harry’s attempts at reconciliation (the mediator suggestion, allowing The Turd and The Rottweiler to see Archie and Lili) as a desperate desire to come back to The Firm. Now, I think before the funeral Harry was definitely open to that possibility with conditions, but never desperate.
      The “synthetic fame” line is amazing! Imagine a monarchy obsessed with fame?! How pathetic. How much use to the people they must be if FAME is their measure of success. The Windsors and the English truly believe that that waste, those millions in pounds spent and in wages lost on that ridiculous tone deaf pageant mislabeled as a funeral is service.

  11. Lucy says:

    Well of course it’s “corrosive”…sunlight has a way of coming in through all the cracks, doesn’t it Chuck?

  12. Moderatelywealthy says:

    The Sussexes do not have an official sociak media presence. There is Archewell and that is it. Meghan is off Twitter, Harry certainly is not on Instagram.
    The popularity they have is built upon not victimhood, but their hard work and fame, Harry is, has always been and always will be a member of that family. That they behave as a Firm and demand Harry to see them as his immediate managers is their own hubris. Meghan is his wife and partner and pretending she does not exist or does not matter only tells of themselves.

    The Royal Family is an institution based on self importance and on centuries of self serving propaganda that sustains a lazy Elite used at being ” empire” and this level of gaslitghing only reaches their core audience, which is the old folks that still buy tabloids to pass the time and the alt right idiots.

    Young generations online regularly roasting the Royals and appreaciating Meghan and Harrys struggles with their family are not a group of deranged followers like Kay wants us to believe. Chaz and William live on a house of cards and while it will be decades for all come crumbling down THEY KNOW IT WILL.

    They screwed so badly their only chance is to CONVINCE Harry to leave on his own accord, as in their head would excuse them of all wrongdoing and convince the uncovinced that the whole thing had been ” blown out of proportion” and ride the storm. GOOD LUCK ON THAT, FOOLS!

  13. Merricat says:

    The rota should draw a line under this and move on, but they won’t until they’ve exhausted the funeral photos. Lol, they’re screwed, and they know it–it’s nothing but Charles and Cam and William and Kate from here on out.

    • Becks1 says:

      you forgot Sophie 🤣🤣🤣

    • Brit says:

      And the rota and tabloids don’t have the Queen and Philip to use anymore to blackmail them into coming over for some made up foolishness. Apart of the reason the media were acting up these the few days is because it’s going to be years before they see the Sussexes again unless it’s a funeral or emergency and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to pressure the Wales’ in their invisible contract to either extend a invite for earth shot in Boston to the Sussexes or they pressure them to go to California.


        They are banking on the coronation of Charles the Turd to lure the Sussexes back. They have moved the coronation date up to March 2023 instead of the usual year. That’s as long as they can go without having the Sussexes in their clutches.
        Another occasion they can use is the investitures of William and Katie as the Prince and Princess of Wales. They can’t wait for Harry to bow and Meghan to curtsy to them. Stay away Meghan!

  14. Amy Bee says:

    Apparently what Charles and William did this week was extend an olive branch to Harry and Meghan and that the funeral proceedings were so grand that it should make Harry long to return to the fold. These people live in a different world. All I saw was abuse and attempts to humiliate Harry and Meghan. Coming to think about it I think the invitation to do the walkabout was another attempt to humiliate Harry and Meghan. I think William thought that the crowd would attack Harry and Meghan when they came out but that didn’t happen.

    • Merricat says:

      Instead, we all saw Waity go Medusa with her venomous look and attitude, and people immediately responded to Meghan’s vulnerability.

    • Becks1 says:

      You may be right. W&K might have thought there would be boo-ing, or that more people would ignore H&M like that one Karen did, but instead they were received warmly and Meghan gave someone a hug that went viral.

      Maybe that was what afterwards we saw the scrambling about taking credit for it, because the whole thing was meant to be spun as “Harry and Meghan CRASH W&K’s walkabout and got the reception they deserved!!”

    • MsIam says:

      Well, I think that photo of Harry and Meghan in the car as they leave the funeral, shows just how they feel about all of that “grandness”. I think that was more than just the grief of losing a loved one on their faces. I think it was a good bit of trauma too.

    • Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

      IF The Turd did not order Wails to invite Harry and Meghan, then this is the only reasoning that makes sense to me.
      I still don’t understand why Harry accepted and put Meghan in that situation, and I’m kind of pissed about that. He could have released a statement saying his brother sent an 11th hour invite and out of respect to the current POW and King, they chose not to go. I can’t help but think that Harry agreed because he still wants to assert his position within The Firm and line of succession.
      This is not a threadjack!

      • MsIam says:

        That’s why I think Charles orchestrated the whole walkabout, all William did was drive the car. If it was William who called to arrange things, I doubt Harry would have answered. Now though, I think Harry will have both of their phone numbers blocked.

      • Carrot says:

        Meghan is her own person. She has a say. M&H each have their own intelligence and agency. They take care of each other and they each get to decide for themselves and their collective.

        Why do they even engage at all? Even when there are real dangers, physical, emotional, long-term, sometimes when we have a strong sense of duty (that isn’t merely nostalgia) we try our best to do what we think is right and what we think is how we can best live with ourselves.

        I think Harry and Meghan figure it out while being very, very honest with themselves and each other

      • Pinkosaurus says:

        Harry and Meghan may have genuinely wanted to thank the mourners and crowds in honor of his grandma, and he was willing to put up with all the Keen shenanigans to do it.

  15. LUCKSTER 🍀 says:

    Charles, William and the Men in Grey are all playing with fire and expecting not to get burned.

    For a family that is supposed to “think in terms of centuries, not years” they are breath-takingly short-sighted.

  16. Chloe says:

    Excluding meghan AGAIN in all this. When will these people learn. Harry offered to remain part of all this pomp, albeit on his own dime. He got rejected. The windsors made their bed, now they can lie in it.

  17. ELX says:

    This is classic DARVO abuser behavior. The best thing H&M can do is stay away and go no contact. That won’t suit the tabloids’ financial strategy, but since England seems hell-bent on riding the bullet train to third-world status, I don’t think it will matter for much longer.

  18. ThatsNotOkay says:

    The British press might even be the bigger evil in all this. It’s the devil on the shoulder, encouraging everyone’s worst instincts and feeding their fury with lies. As soon as people start calling out every reporter whose livelihood depends on inventing scandals, the more defensive and irrelevant they’ll become. They’re monsters.

    • Brit says:

      The British media will be the downfall of that family. Getting in bed with them was the worst mistake of all because they know all their secrets and will turn on them in a heartbeat. Both the BM and RF have a reputation for being racist and hateful. They should’ve stopped this smear campaign years ago. They’ve been called out repeatedly this last few weeks and it’s only backfiring on them. Not the Sussexes.

  19. The Hench says:

    This has to stop. I mean, really, this constant barrage of negativity and jibes and outright lies from the British Media against Harry and Meghan on every level has to stop. Because, if it doesn’t, then the only way out of the reporting cul-de-sac, as Meghan hinted, is for the Sussexes to blow the whole thing wide open. The racism, the palace briefing wars, the shady finances, the lazy and incompetent staff, William’s affairs, using Jason against Meghan in the Mail lawsuit, the real state of the Wails’ marriage. Just go full scorched earth and tell the truth about why they really left and how hard they tried to make it work before they were forced out. Then let the cards fall where they will.

    Maybe the press know this and that’s why they keep attacking – hoping to goad the Sussexes into revealing all? The Rota know what’s going on behind the scenes. A proper expose would sell papers for years – but it could also spell the end of the Monarchy.

    • nutella toast says:

      I work in the world of sexual violence direct services – the consequences of which are horrific. It’s absolutely emotional and mental violence to compare a rapist and trafficker of minors to someone who decided to create healthy boundaries and leave an incredibly toxic family. For the last time, Harry is not Andrew, and their choices are nothing the same. That alone would make me leave.

    • Becks1 says:

      I absolutely think the press is goading them into revealing everything they know. I also think that’s why the press is so interested in Harry’s memoir and talks about it all the time. They are dying for Harry to spill something, anything, so they can talk about that something under the guise of “omg do you believe Harry said that William’s affairs were covered up in the press? Why would he say that? What can he possibly MEAN….affairs affairs affairs affairs….”

      (please note I dont think Harry is going to talk about W’s affairs, just using that as an easy example.)

      I think the same thing is going on here with the general tone of articles. They WANT H&M to push back. they WANT either Meghan and Harry to drop some receipts, or for there to be another lawsuit where they can get Meghan or Harry on the stand, etc. The press wants to be able to talk about what they know and this is one way they can do it.

      • Brit says:

        @Becks: I could see them doing that because we have seen hints and clues that the media is getting really fed up. They picked the wrong team and they know it. William and Kate actually muzzled the press. They’re protected and play the game but the press can’t talk about their secrets, so they project onto Harry and Meghan and hyper focus on them. That leak about William preferred bedroom activities didn’t come out of nowhere. Someone leaked that to Deuxmoi and wanted it out there. I imagine the rota were cackling behind the scenes.

      • Nuks says:

        I think H&M won’t need to drop the bombs. The press will do it for them because they’ll have to. Once the halo of QE fades after the funeral, the absolute vacuum of star power will force the press to turn on Charles and the vanilla twins. They’ll have to.

    • Harper says:

      @The Hench I wouldn’t blame Harry for blowing it all up very soon now after enduring what went down over the past two weeks. So far Harry has held back out of respect for his grandmother and the institution. But what is left worthy of Harry’s respect?

      This is a family and an institution that used the circumstances of his grandmother’s death against him. In the very hours that she left the world, the family and the media used Meghan for negative headlines. Harry now knows that there is no circumstance sacred enough for Charles and William to lay down their arms.

      The media keeps crowing about all the olive branches the family extended yet ignoring the fact that Harry marched around looking furious every day. Charles and William, Camilla and Kate should all be very very very very scared.

      • one of the marys says:

        I too have wondered if Harry is ready to blow the lid off the family. But what I saw this week was mostly stress and exhaustion. Imagine the relief when they got out of there. It’s a tough choice because he and Meghan are building such a great life and reputation and in my opinion really do want to move forward. But these people will not stop attacking them!

      • kirk says:

        I’m sick of all this olive branchery BS. Brit media have so convoluted the meaning of “peacemaker” and “olive branches” as peace symbols that they are now either devoid of meaning or stand in opposition to what they were. There’s video of “peacemaker” Kitty making a threatening hostile advance on Meghan at Windsor. I’d guess that’s what you’d call an “olive branch.”

    • Carrot says:

      There should be an end to this monarchy, and any monarchy that claims to be other than we all shit the same.

      Time now for pretenders, royal, not royal, to accept as fundamental: no one is superior to another by accident of birth

  20. Elizabeth says:

    So the Queen was bewildered by Harry’s complaints? But not by her pedophile son spending all his time trying to get back into public life? And does anyone think that Prince Harry spent all his time talking to his grandmother, complaining about Charles and William? Instead of talking about the success of the most recent Invictus Games, Lilibet, Archie, his work with Better Up, the projects he and Meghan are working on, and their charity work. I also find it hard to believe that Prince Harry would run to a Murdoch paper to complain about the insignia, given that he’s suing various Murdoch papers.

  21. The Duchess says:

    The Windsor’s have brought on their own downfall and they seriously can’t handle the shame of it all. That shame was suppose to be reserved for Harry & Meghan ‘crawling’ back, but that didn’t happen and now they are seething about it. Maybe if they treated Meghan with an ounce of decency and humanity in the first place… none of this would be happening! Kaiser is spot on, the Windsor’s can’t handle the fact that Harry & Meghan have continuously proved that they really don’t need the firm to survive in the real world. The whole funeral debacle was a mess from start to finish and Harry & Meghan came out of it looking like the stars they are.

  22. Pumpkin (Was Sofia) says:

    And an issue the palace has with H&M’s popularity isn’t H&M themselves but them showing people that you don’t need to be a “working royal” to do charity work/philanthropy that makes an impact. If people look at H&M’s success and go “well if they can do it without the monarchy, surely the rest of them can work without public funds like the Sussexes?” and that could start widespread discussions on whether the UK should have a monarchy. Which they obviously don’t want.

  23. K. Tate says:

    This article is batshit. I seriously can NOT believe that people, no matter who or where, can manufacture this type of false narrative. “We can’t believe that you dared say you are hurt by our evil pettiness!” I hope the whole monarchy crashes from the top down.

  24. MsIam says:

    This article is crazy crackers. Its hard to know where to start. Charles was getting booed all over the place so I question any outpouring of national support, other than for the dead queen. Kay knows things will likely get worse for Charles. But the most puzzling thing is all these articles say or imply that Harry is vain, stupid, selfish , etc BUT he must come back. Well if he’s so terrible then you have to ask “Why?” Why do they need him if he’s so useless? Anyway, I think a lot of people outside of the royalists were really turned off by the way the UK Royals behaved this whole week.

    • Merricat says:

      Yes, the world saw the pettiness and cruelty of the royal family happening in real time.

      • Lady D says:

        I really wonder what the visiting royals thought of H&M’s treatment at the hands of the pinnacle of royal society? They had front row seats for the action.

    • dee(2) says:

      The why would you want him back is what puzzles me as well, and the question even casual observers should be asking. I’m in senior managment at my company, and I could not fathom asking an employee who was let go of or who left on their own to return, if they were lazy, incompetent, and selfish. And if I said they were an HR risk to boot?!! Why on earth would I want them to return? I may as well start writing out settlements as I spoke. They want it both ways, to be a family and a business but its terrible behavior for a family, and incomprehensible behavior for a business.

    • Over it says:

      For an institution And society so hell bent on always trying to prove they are at the top of society and have so much class , they certainly act like trailer park trash.
      They put so much into putting on this show for Betty funeral, yet when people look back at this , all they will remember is how cruel and heartless and downright disgusting and hateful Charles, Camilla, William,Kate and sophie were to the biracial American woman and her husband, their own flesh and blood. If this is how they treat people who are related to them, where does that leave the rest of us common regular folks?

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Over it, and what will be remembered is that H&M showed what class and grace really are. They outclassed and out dignified all of them.

      • Mary S says:

        Don’t put the folks that pulled off this QEII funeral debacle in the same category as residents of trailer parks. Trailer park dwellers are often upstanding people who just have a need to live frugally. They are head and shoulders above the QEII funeral crew.

      • Mary S says:

        Don’t put the folks that pulled off this QEII funeral debacle in the same category as residents of trailer parks. Trailer park dwellers are often upstanding people who just have a need to live frugally. They are head and shoulders above the QEII funeral crew.

  25. Snuffles says:

    Aside from the fact that these people’s heads are so far up their own asses they can’t see common sense, they’re are stuck in a time warp.

    Social media has been around for almost 20 years and they clearly don’t grasp how it works. They seem perpetually flummoxed on why they can’t control the narrative. I mean, they certainly are trying with their bots, but they can’t control or influence the opinions and actions of billions of users across multiple platforms. And calling them “synthetic” as compared to your crusty ass institution isn’t going to change anything.

    The monarchy simply doesn’t know how to operate within this new paradigm. And even if they hired someone who explained it to them, they wouldn’t listen to them because they believe it’s beneath them to operate like an influencer.

    As for them being continuously baffled by Harry, honestly, if they don’t get it by now, they never will. At this point, them refusing to see Harry’s point of view is self preservation. Because once they do and publicly acknowledge it, the whole institution comes crumbling down. They can never admit that being a royal isn’t the top tier of existence.

  26. Eurydice says:

    I see the story’s changed from “Harry broke Granny’s heart by ignoring her” to “Harry and Granny talked all the time until she got sick of his whining.” We really are in the age of Charles the Petty.

    • Tessa says:

      Charles is the new sun king and i do not mean this in a good way

    • L84Tea says:

      Now that the queen is gone, it won’t surprise me one bit if we suddenly start hearing about how much “the queen really was ashamed of Harry and despised Meghan”. She was shielded before, but now that she really is no longer here to speak for herself in any capacity, expect to see them suddenly speaking for Liz and stating outrageous lies.

      • 2cents says:

        I don’t think QEII was ashamed of H&M. The Queen met the Sussexes secretly this year before the Invictus Games, invited them to her Jubilee party and probably decided beforehand that she wanted them at her funeral. She respected H&M.

      • Eurydice says:

        @2cents – I think L84Tea was saying that the media would change the narrative to “TQ was ashamed of H&M,” not that it is actually true.

  27. sunny says:

    The Whiny Windsors come off so pathetic here. Like, Harry in the poles was the 2nd most popular royal figure in Britain BEFORE he met and married Meghan. Way to try to downgrade his fame to a post-leaving phenomenon. And to imply anything about his victimization is wild! Like, I know he is a rich white, powerful man, but he has been victimized by his terrible family and the world sees it. His popularity has increased the more his family seeks to diminish him because it elicits anger at the racism and cruelty his family is facing. God, this people are so so dumb.

    I also really doubt that little story about the Queen but now that she is dead they will try to re-write/attribute things to her like they do with dear old Phil. *shrug*

    • Tessa says:

      What is gross is lady c puts out probable fake news that philip said to Harry one does not marry an actress this spin is obnoxious

    • sunny says:

      correction *polls*

    • Yolanda says:

      Come on, he’s been with Meghan for a long time now. Bringing up his popularity of 10 years ago makes no sense. It’s like I said Paris Hilton is still relevant because everyone was talking about her in 2004. A lot has changed since then.

      • C says:

        What? He was consistently popular ever since he started as a working royal which is why he himself admitted he was exhausted because they sent him out to do everything, it’s down to his personality which hasn’t changed.

      • Becks1 says:

        he hasn’t been with Meghan for 10 years. But @Sunny’s point is that Kay is trying to act like Harry’s current global popularity is something manufactured or fake or bought or whatever…..

        but the truth is that Harry has long been one of the most popular royals, not just 10 years ago – even after marrying Meghan his popularity remained pretty high. When he left it took a hit from the royalists and monarchists and racists, but globally he’s remained pretty popular, there’s nothing manufactured about it.

      • sunny says:

        Thanks @Becks1 that was exactly my point. Sorry if I was unclear @ Yolanda, Charles & co are acting as if Harry’s popularity is recent and entirely social media driven, when it isn’t at all. I was trying to communicate how bs the “synthetic” fame claims are. because again the palace is trying to rewrite history for its own ends when it is easily disproved.

  28. Tessa says:

    Charles and company,camilla,Will and Kate are now playing victims when they cause the trouble Andrew is excused for his behavior by some in media

  29. EA says:

    They called Harry crazy for talking about generational trauma. Are these the lessons that Phillip taught him to toughen him up so that he could be King? Goodness! William better hope something is left for him after Charles is done with his “reign”

  30. C says:

    When I was a kid I watched this PBS special on Nostradamus which was filmed years earlier, and it said something about how he predicted the last King of England would be around this time (of course it showed a pic of Charles with Diana, that’s how old it was, but yeah.)

    Obviously I’m not taking that as any kind of scientific confirmation (because what prediction was it and how and all that) but it amuses me how much this tiny little tidbit pops up in my mind from childhood every time I see Charles make a ridiculous decision.

    • Jazz Hands says:

      Ack! I just Googled and apparently a Nostradamus expert wrote a book in 2005 which stated, based on Nostradamus’ writings, that the Queen would die in 2022, around age 96. He also interpreted the writings to say that KC3 will abdicate. I am not ready for a world with a Kkkween Kkkate.

      • booboocita says:

        For the life of me, I can’t see KC3 abdicating, EVER. He’s waited too long for his battered gilt wooden chair and his sparkly-shiny special hat and his “pomp and circumstance” to give it all up, willingly or otherwise. That man will cling to the throne for grim death. And if he thinks that PwBT threatens his reign in any real, effective way, the knives will come out. There’s no end to KC3’s spite, from the looks of it.

  31. SnoodleDumpling says:

    Claiming that somebody in a disagreement has a “misplaced sense of victimhood”, and that disagreement includes Charles, but Charles is not the one being accused of such…utter nonsense.

  32. Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

    “ He could so easily be restored to the heart of the family.”
    Yeah, that’s a going to be a tough one. If The Windsors weren’t such vapid, incompetent idiots, Harry would have never, ever, ever left. Harry was absolutely clueless about the insidious dynamics of The Windsor clan until they began attacking Meghan in the press. Their treatment of Harry is not new, it’s just on 11 instead of 4 or 5.

    If The Turd and Wails played their hands more softly in weaponizing their emotional abuse, Harry would have kept Meghan and their kids right there on the Windsor estate. Turd and Wails would still have their whipping boy. One would think that since these people are descendants from royals whose only pastime was backstabbing they would have had a handle on how to deploy manipulation, but nope!

    • sunny says:

      This is an amazing and accurate comment. Truly, you hit the nail on the head. How are they so bad at this historic pastime of their ancestors? I guess their stupidity and lack of emotional regulation made it much harder to become good at court politics. I mean, a lot of royals were terrible at this crap before but they were usually culled in political in fighting.

      Really interested to see what happens when Charles and TOB start in-fighting in more than an occasional squirmish. Should be very interesting.

  33. ML says:

    The BRF need to win a personality contest of sorts. The argument to have a royal family in the first place is that they are good for society, they earn the society money and prestige, and they help in ways that regular citizens or elected politicians cannot. (There is some truth to this.) However, a monarchy is also very expensive, inherently unequal, and prone to corruption. To convince people that a king/ queen and family, people who come by their livelihood by birth rather than ability, are necessary they need to be personable or somehow compelling figures, otherwise people begin to question their worth. The queen’s 10 Days of Death have now brought home the BRF’s weaknesses and H&M’s strengths. The Commonwealth is set to lose some members, and the BRF is less popular than it was a month ago. Richard Kay is feeling that right now.

    • windyriver says:

      If Will and Kate had been willing to work, I think the RF would be in a very different place. Yes, Harry and Meghan have special qualities, but W&K had youth and attractiveness (and cute kids) they could have parlayed into their own celebrity if they were out there doing the numbers Anne or even Sophie does. personally meeting and interacting with people. (Maybe Kate would have even developed some skills.) The market was there. Their main chance was shortly after their marriage. But there was a second opportunity during the pandemic, when the Sussexes were essentially MIA from the public sphere, planning their next chapter and building the connections they’d need going forward.

      But, W&K don’t want to work. They did nothing, or the least they thought they could get away with every time. Well, not nothing; they did throw continual tantrums via the media about Harry’s lack of consideration in walking away from the brother that needed him (and about the woman that helped him), etc. etc. And have now created what they feared – a global focus on H&M – who actually do the job. W&K should have shut up and done the work; there was room for both couples. But jealousy got the better of them, as it always does with the RF.

      At this point, even if W&K were willing to work it’s probably too late. They’re older, any freshness is gone, and their essential nastiness has been revealed. Sadly, to get some of that youth and excitement back, it’s likely what will happen is, the children will be dragged out more and more, well before they need to be. I hope I’m wrong.

      • COS says:

        I think George and Charlotte attending the funeral is a clear sign that these two will be rolled out as human shields and an attraction going forward. Louis will be rolled out to take advantage of his cute years while he is still young.
        After all, W&K have nothing else to offer so they are down to pawning their kids.

  34. Over it says:

    So Chucky and Peggy are big mad and jealous that despite them being number one and two in the royal pecking order that the ones they declared irrelevant and did everything in their power to destroy are still more influential and popular than them? Okay I get it . So let me offer some free advice. Shut the f up about Harry and Meghan. Stop abusing, smearing, racially attacking them with all your media hound dogs and maybe just maybe The rest of the world who isn’t as racist and stupid as you two are, might somehow think something good about the two of you. I am so over Chucky and William whinny cry baby shit.

  35. Brassy Rebel says:

    Do any of these unhinged columns not whine that Harry hasn’t “learned his lesson”? He seems to have learned a very important lesson quite well. His family is a hot mess and he should give them as much space as possible. When will they ask why Andrew hasn’t learned his lesson?

  36. Emmlo says:

    The irony is that if Charles and William just did what they claim they want H&M to do – shut the fuck up and stop leaking re: family issues – they might be able to get some positive attention as the Sussexes enjoyed quiet lulls between projects. But because they never cease bitching, H&M continue to be a globally sympathetic story. It’s the Streisand Effect amplified even further by the unhinged racism of the British tabloid press.

  37. Athena says:

    “Written out of royal history” that’s my favorite line. These from the same clan still talking about Edward and Wallis as if the abdication happened yesterday. H&M will change royal history not written out of it. If Harry had stayed he would have been just another spare but leaving, he has made history.

  38. W says:

    Incredibly funny for Kay to claim Harry “leaked” that story about him being mad about not having the ER on his uniform when Harry HIMSELF came out and said he doesn’t care about the uniforms, he’s just there for his granny. Kay should be the last one speculating on “leaks”. Especially when he has Willieleaks briefing him every second of the day.

    Also, didn’t they just declare Keen the most popular royal in the US? What happened to that poll from a few weeks ago? Why haven’t Keen’s photos gone viral? Isn’t Keen supposed to be the victim of Meghan’s terrible bullying? Isn’t that why her “fans” love her so much? Wouldn’t that count as “sympathetic fame”?

  39. aquarius64 says:

    The Windsors are trash in the social media Court of Public Opinion. #kkkate is trending for the third day in a row; 10K + tweets this morning. You know it’s bad when Kate supporters are crying foul on the trending. There’s a hilarious Tick Tok describing the BRF dynamics as if they are a trailer park trash family. Kay’s baying in the Fail has no reach, and deploying Nicholl to a US outlet shows Chaz and company fears the BRF is a damaged brand in America. You mistreat an American that married into the family what did you expect?

  40. Beach Dreams says:

    Kay has been churning out articles like a madman this past week. The desperation and rage at the outpouring of Sussex support are quite a sight to behold.

  41. Cara says:

    Allowed it to be revealed? You mean by being at the vigil where anyone with eyes or access to the photos could see it?

  42. sparrow says:

    That takes the biscuit. Your treatment of your son’s decision to marry someone with more intelligence and work ethic than any other marry-ins was corrosive. One minute the RF supposedly want to exploit this couple’s charisma by inviting them back in; the next they want to undermine them by saying how dangerous they are to the future of the entire institution. Did anyone see the DM article about how beloved Carole Middleton is, and how she is the backbone of her daughter’s and the royal family’s strength. At one time she was considered someone to laugh at – a back biting, calculating groomer of her daughters. They really are rewriting recent history and readers are falling for it.

  43. Mimsy says:

    Others have made this point on other posts , the way the Windsors kept singling out Harry, and his stoic demeanor in the face of it all, was watched in real time by a lot of people. Yes, abusers thrive in the dark, but all those things happened in broad daylight. The attempts to crush him had the opposite effect , I think because he’s a different person than they thought.

  44. sparrow says:

    I think they are really, really nervous about that book, more so than ever. The funeral brought H&M back into clear focus and people were astonished by their magnetism. That book will fly.

  45. esline mills says:

    The Windsor family worship money but still crave the type of fame and adoration the Sussexes have. the only thing synthetic is the so-called olive branch they keep talking about. as to William once he got the Sussex photo-op he promised his friends in the media, he was done.

  46. L4Frimaire says:

    Kaiser is right in the money with this one. So much wrong with this article. How is Harry not making a fuss about the uniforms about his vanity. I think the Royals were shocked how disgusted people were over the uniform debacle, especially after Harry issued a statement saying he didn’t mind not wearing it. Agree that they are really resentful of both the Sussexes popularity but also the global support they were getting, while Meghan especially was being attacked in their press. Look at how the photos from that funeral and who got the most focus. The royals want a piece of the Sussexes without having to be accountable for the harm they caused them.

  47. Georgevna says:

    I’m guessing “Synthetic Fame” is the kind that is earned through your actions and how you treat people; whereas this is championing the “organic fame” of being born into enormous hereditary wealth and power? It’s such a profoundly classist argument. Looking down on the very idea of “earning” anything.

  48. Margaret says:

    Those Windsors take themselves far, far too seriously.

  49. Jaded says:

    “Corrosive to the long-term well-being of the monarchy…” Dafuq? The monarchy is corrosive to the long-term wellbeing of the monarchy, period. Such drivel….

  50. MissM says:

    I saw a conspiracy theory that a lot of these leaks are actually coming from the Queens ex private secretary and Harry’s nemesis, Edward Young. It can’t be a coincidence that these leaks came out at the same time Edward would have found out that he is out of a job. The leaks are obviously coming from the palace but I don’t think they are coming from Charles because they make Charles look awful. Who would want to make Charles look bad as well as Harry? The guy who was just fired.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      They’re so out of touch and living in their right wing echo chamber that they don’t think it does make them look awful. Which is why gaffes like inviting and disinviting them, thinking it was punishment, or the universal bad reaction to denying Harry the uniform. They’re so shocked the world saw this as bad, churlish behavior and now they’re big mad. This is a distraction from the reality of Charles sinking in as the new monarch.

    • ChillinginDC says:

      I think it was Young too. There’s now way Harry cared about that uniform. There’s no way he went and complained to anyone. And there’s no way the Queen said he’s whining. No way.

    • Jaded says:

      I agree. Young is an evil man with Machiavellian tendencies. It was Two-Buck Chuck who hired him after firing Geidt, and Young who didn’t forward Harry’s request to pay for his RPO security to Ravec and Home Office. Young was the one who told Meghan to “dim her light” and he has made his distaste for the Sussexes very obvious.

  51. Lizzie says:

    “… is corrosive to the long-term well-being of the monarchy. ” Did it have to be? If the rf had embraced H&M’s move they could have piggy-backed off of their popularity. Face it, the ‘(fools) gold standard’ courtiers gave the worlds worst advice and the deaf, dumb and blind rf followed it.

  52. COS says:

    “Charles’s hope is that, having been so much part of the spectacular events of the past week and a half, his son finally realises that the qualities of duty and service celebrated in the national outpouring of heartfelt affection for the Queen are the true measure of popularity. It may be a forlorn hope.”

    hahahaha….maybe Charles should put his energy and focus on his own (lack of) popularity and the (uncertain) survival of the monarchy. After all, he has gigantic shoes to fill. Has anyone heard any updates on the coronation? Probably not, because no one cares. No one will show up for it. They are doomed. The harder they are on H&M, the faster they sink.

  53. LeslieC says:

    I don’t believe for a moment that William and Kate and Charles and Camilla are jealous of Harry and Meghan because they are popular and attractive, although they are, or because they ooze charisma, which they absolutely do. I think they are jealous because Harry and Meghan know what “IN LOVE” means. It’s not the “tampon” kind of love nor is it the kind of love that says I really don’t want to be seen with you so I’ll walk so far ahead you can’t keep up with me, and by all means forget me ever holding your hand. Harry and Meghan are spouses, lovers, best friends and partners. When one hurts, so does the other. You can see it in their eyes.

  54. Flowerlake says:

    I thought everyone hated them?

    The racists are finally realizing they misscalculated, it seems.

  55. Flowerlake says:

    If only they had treated Meghan better.

    They showed who they really are.

  56. Well Wisher says:

    There is an old adage, ‘you get what you always wanted, now what?’
    The funeral exposed so much more than the pageantry, the underlying fear and uncertainty which was dealt with the attempted shaming of the Sussexes, the stupid demands, invisible olive branches
    What would indicate a successful King Charles 111 era?
    Whose vision for Harry’s role in Monarchy will prevail the late Queen or Charles and William’s?
    Would he rightfully follow his grandfather’s? or be subservient to the king and his heir fragile egos?
    Let’s look at the last, an observant social media wisely found a copy of the Forces where Prince Harry’s retirement was discussed.
    It is clear that the Queen wanted Harry to continue to pursue his own passion in public service.
    It explained why he was stripped of those particular patronages when he denied the same arrangement that William and Kate had at the beginning of their marriage.
    The only missing factor was the passion for real work.
    This was to farther drive home his inferior status, which was further lower by his choice of a smart competent wife.
    The Queen was accused to coddling him, and immediately after her death, he was to be publicly flogged for his insubordination.
    How dare him have an opinionated need for agency or good mental health?? (being a proper husband is out of the question, he needs to beg and grovel for the scraps.)
    That was done by fiat, will he or wouldn’t he be allowed to wear the uniform or even participate in the funeral rituals to his beloved grandmother?
    The leaks to indicate how that was determined in terms of removal of insignia, the pr walkabout, the refusal to participate in reception as being uninvited.
    This is to metaphorically beat the influence of the Queen and Prince Philip out of Harry and Meghan.
    Taking back the titles, Frogmore Cottage and influence their security does not stand a chance.
    The grandparents love have a stronghold in the Sussexes, the only reason they endured the public abuse.

    • Well Wisher says:

      The other factor is the maintaince of the Queen’s elevated status in Europe and the world at large?
      Who has earned the gravitas and respect to immediately fill those shoes?
      Certainly not the Wales.
      The new king needs enough time to grow into the role.
      Meanwhile the stature of the UK is diminishing due to Brexit, the removal of environmental protection, unending tax breaks for rich and further taxation.
      While the Sussexes were a poor substitute as distraction, their obvious mistreatment attracted a whole new audience.
      Their success since they left, cannot be attributed to titles, that opens the door, but one has to produce.
      Notice how the rota rarely mentioned the growth of Betterup applications and stubbornly set his wealth at £20m?
      The discussion of the memoir, a direct relation especially if it shifts the discussion of his life to one of agency and maintenance of proper mental health.
      There will be no need for heroes, no fairy tale and no myths.
      The information provided will help and move them being used as distraction, and most importantly dry up book sales, remove the tool of intimidation in the form of the tabloid media and shine a positive light on the Sussexes.
      Now imagine if they are a part of the institution, this is good for a healthy outlook, but right now it is toxic.
      Such an environment will produce the underlying conditions that caused them to leave.
      They can go out and purchase some charisma for the Wales and continue their mythology.

  57. lanne says:

    I wrote a long comment this morning that likely got removed because I suggested a quite dark route the royals might be tempted to take.

    The Royal family and the British media both are panicking. They have done their absolute worst to Harry and Meghan, and they have only seen the Sussex’s popularity rise. Charles and even William I believe know deep down that they need Harry in the way that Margaret, Andrew, and Anne were never needed. They needed Harry not only as their scapegoat, but as someone who could be the head of the charm offensive they desperately need. Underestimating Harry and taking him for granted is their biggest mistake. They imagined he’d always be there to use as they saw fit, and they have no idea how the monarchy will function without him. Like the mediocre, unimaginative, selfish and cowardly men they are, they believed Meghan was the problem. They likely still believe that: get rid of Meghan and Harry comes back. They thought they could bully Meghan out and Harry would fall in line as he was supposed to. But that hasn’t worked. Meghan isn’t the problem. Harry is.

    Harry is a man who wants to live his life on his own terms. I’ve never seen an entire media, an entire institution put forward the belief that a grown man doesn’t have the right to make his own choices in life. That the royals are deficient and mediocre doesn’t surprise me. Royals aren’t supposed to be exceptional. But they should have astute, intelligent advisors who work to maintain a carefully crafted image and status quo. I’ve been continually surprised at just how bad their advisors are at their jobs. Many of us Celebitches, I believe, are more knowledgable about the history of the royal family than their advisors are, even more than the principals themselves are. After all, those of us who have read about, studied the royal family over time can recognize patterns, see the actions of the royals within a broader historical context.

    My guess is that deep down, what Charles and William resent the most is that neither of them would have had the fortitude to stand up for their loved one the way Harry has stood up for Meghan. Neither could survive outside the coddling of the royal family. Harry is a better man than they are, and they both know it and resent it. Also, William can’t stand that Harry has a love relationship the likes of which William has never had. Maybe he expected that he and Harry would suffer together, and that they would cheat together.

    They have thrown everything they could at the Sussexes, and nothing has worked. These people are used to getting everything they want, and the fact that they can’t control Harry is a bitter, bitter pill for them. What will they do? The monarchy is a runaway train right now. As a poster said earlier, if the monarchy can be derailed by the absence of 5th in line to the throne and his wife, then how tenuous is the royal family?

    • HamsterJam says:

      Yes, and the way they insisted that Meghan be “less” than herself so as not to outshine them. Did you see that trailer trash vid on twitter? OMG, he nailed them. “And so then Conner met Stacey and they did get out of the trailer park, so everyone is mad at her because they figure she had something to do with it”

  58. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    They prevented Harry from wearing the uniform and insignias he EARNED as a way to spite him, and now they have the gall to say wearing a uniform is “VANITY” on Harry’s part? Yet those who never earned the right — like Charles or Anne — can play dress up and pretend, and THEY are not the vain ones? Once again, these people live in opposite world. Sadly, there are people who will believe the backwards reporting because they WANT to believe it. The royal family are truly playing to the unhinged racists and royalists now. That is pathetic.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      This shows they were completely not prepared for a global backlash regarding banning Harry wearing the uniform. Also they did not like that photo of Harry in civilian dress standing out among the uniformed royals. So they try to make it seem like this is something Harry caused, or his vanity, when he specifically said he was fine to wear the morning suit for the entire funeral. It was such h a weird thing to throw in, especially when the palace was the one leaking all this stuff about the uniform, and canceling invitations, to try to embarrass the Sussexes. They are so mad the Sussexes didn’t break and that a lot of people are finally getting why they left.

    • QuiteContrary says:

      Couldn’t agree more, Mrs. K. The cosplaying last week and the blatantly stolen valor were driving me crazy …
      Charles and his minions will never understand Harry and Meghan, because they lack H&M’s inherent sense of decency and deep-rooted desire to do real good in the world. It’s not play-acting for H&M and it’s not about fame.
      And I totally agree that the rest of the royals don’t understand H&M’s relationship. The other royals, Charles and William especially, are too selfish to understand real love.

  59. AnneL says:

    So “synthetic popularity” means earned interest and good will, while “real popularity” means something conferred primarily by random circumstances of birth. Got it.

    This makes me think of the episode of “The Crown” where Philip is on his last nerve with being jerked around by The Firm. They made the family move out of their home to Buckingham Palace, something neither of them wanted for either their marriage or their young children. They made them change the kids’ last name from Mountbatten to Windsor. And this after he had signed away a chunk of his personal legacy before he married her. I know he was coming at it from a sexist POV but still, for a man of his time and background, that had to sting.

    Finally he made then give him the title Prince Philip, because as he put it, that’s “the only thing they understand.” It really is.

  60. DeluxeDuckling says:

    Impressed with Kaiser for keeping us informed on all this crazy coverage.

  61. Therese says:

    It’s just gotten to the point that it’s hard for me to read some things. It upsets me because it’s so untrue and mean, and it really makes me mad. And I can’t do anything about it. And it never stops. But what I really wanted to say is that the uniform business with Harry makes me rageful, and I read yesterday that Harry couldn’t salute his grandmother because he wasn’t in uniform because he wasn’t a working royal, and I remember him saying how much it meant to him to be able in the past to salute his grandmother – his commander in chief. I didn’t think I could hate them or despise them any more, but I do. That was horrid. I am rageful at whoever did that, and I am laying it at the feet of the King. I’m so angry. He wants us to forget things he’s done in the past, but all it did was remind me that but for him, Diana would still be alive. He not only indulged himself and his wants at the cost of what was best for his country, he pulled her security. I guess it is triggering some of my own issues with my abusive family from the past. My sister used to tell me, everything would be ok if you would just shut up. And my family said that as well. The problem wasn’t with the horrid abuse the family handed out, it was the fact that I didn’t take it laying down, and just go along with it. I just wouldn’t shut up. I feel for what Harry is going through, but bringing all this to light may be doing the world more good than he is aware of.

    • lanne says:

      That was such a selfish and petty move, to take that last opportunity away from him. And what do they get in return for it? What’s the benefit to thim? Their spite should, and hopefully will, be their undoing.

  62. Renae says:

    “Misplaced sense of victimhood…” You have hot to be kidding! One of the worlds biggest whiners has always been Charles. When it was reported that he spoke to his plants, I thought he perhaps had an onion garden. Charles has not done anything in his life without whining and complaining. Just look at how he complained about a damn leaky pen. He may be in his 70’s but he’s never grown up. Let king tampon weep on the rotwillers knickers.

  63. Isabella says:

    The story never says who ordered the insignia ripped off and why that was necessary. No attempt to justify that. If it was no big thing, then why do it?

    Now that this final funeral stunt backfired, Charles and Wills are blaming Harry for his own abuse.

    Anger, spite, pettiness. A bad look for the new king and heir. They keep confusing cruelty with strengthen. The public doesn’t like it.

  64. Beech says:

    “Synthetic celebrity” he writes? I remember Princess Margaret and her husband, Anthony Snowdon being a part of the swinging 60s in London, hanging with Peter Sellers and Mick Jaggar. The BRF are celebrities through and through. End of.

  65. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    Although the royals have massive jewels, they have no glamour. So they love to rub elbows with Hollywood celebrities and others who do.

  66. Mary says:

    “Harry’s decision to abandon (royal life) is why, at the funeral and other key events, he was not permitted to wear the military attire that means so much to him (or the EIIR insignia).”

    Okay, from the beginning Andrew was allowed to wear his military uniform at the vigil and Harry was initially disallowed from doing so. Then when they changed course and allowed Harry to wear his uniform during the vigil, they removed the EIIR insignia. Andrew was allowed to wear his.

    Per Kay these petty moves were made because Harry turned his back on Royal life. As opposed to Andrew who was kicked out of royal life. One was voluntary and one was involuntary. Is that all this comes down to? Having nothing to do with whether or not one is a working Royal but rather the mode in which they left?

    Now, I am sure most of us here on this forum are aware of this motivation for the Royals’ vindictive behaviour but I’m always surprised when any of these Rota reporters say one of the quiet parts out loud.

  67. murt says:

    I don’t really get the military uniform stuff………. Harry is no longer serving in the military right? I’m assuming he isn’t given he is no longer living in the UK. Do retired military members still get to wear their old uniforms?

    • murt says:

      Replying to myself to say that in the UK, it looks like they can, but only in certain circumstances (citing from Quora so who knows if this is accurate) — https://www.quora.com/Can-retired-military-officers-wear-uniforms-in-the-UK

      I’d be curious about the answer to this… because for me, the qn is – did the Royal Family strip Harry of a right he’s entitled to (to wear his uniform post service in the military) – or is it just a “privilege” of Royal Family members that they alone are entitled to continue wearing their uniforms even after service?

    • L4Frimaire says:

      The uniform wasn’t an issue Harry brought up. The fact that they let Andrew wear it but not Harry really bothered a lot of people. I think Maria Shriver summed it up, in that these are ceremonial uniforms. The funeral is a ceremony and frankly the royals can do whatever they want. Harry attitude was “I’ve served my country, I’ll wear whatever you decide”. It was the negative public reaction to how the royals were trying to use the uniform to shame Harry that caused the outrage. Now the royals are mad that they removed all doubt of their pettiness with their flip flopping and stripping away the ERII off the uniform.

    • Mrs.Kabapple says:

      Technically, former military should not wear uniforms after they stopped serving, with a few exceptions, although they *can* wear their medals. What is wrong about the royal family is, they want to be able to play dress-up even if they have left the military or (like Anne and Edward) never served. So to allow THAT (the cos-play), the monarch will bestow honorary titles on them, which allows them to dress up in uniforms. Yes, you read that correctly: the royal family values “honorary” military titles over the ones that were actually *earned.* So technically, Harry was the only one who should not have been allowed to wear a uniform because he was the only one who had his honorary titles taken away (Andrew still had his honorary military titles for some reason — because the queen wanted him to keep them, I guess?). But the public outcry was genuine, because of how stupid it was to say someone who served in combat cannot wear a uniform, but someone who never served at all can. That’s the royal family for you.

      • murt says:

        Ya I agree with that – always thought it was weird / inappropriate for any of the royals to wear uniforms, esp those who never served at all. Maybe an exception for the monarch as head of state , but that’s it. It looks ridiculous.

  68. jferber says:

    I don’t see how people who were never in the military or nominally in the military, the royal men, get to wear pretend uniforms and pretend medals. We don’t do that in the U.S. We call people who do that frauds. I believe (not knowing anyone in the military so I’m not sure) all U.S. veterans can wear their uniforms and medals– usually for special occasions such as parades, Veterans’ Day, ceremonials, etc. I just don’t get how Harry served for TEN years and is prohibited from wearing it. I understand it’s because his military patronages were taken away as punishment for leaving England. Is that it? He wanted those patronages and I know did a damn good job with them– as he does with everything. It’s literally the UK’s loss to have driven Harry, Meghan and the children out. Their hate fests might bond them (we have them here, too, in the Republican party and the Trump idolators), but it is a dangerous bonding and bad for mental health (and sometimes physical health as in life itself).

  69. NotSoSocialB says:

    Knee jerk response-

    The monarchy is well aware of their awful public approval globally. What is corrosive is how they scapegoat their *biggest stars* in the family and how they refuse to be even the tiniest bit humble about it. They could be in a very different (less narcissistically damaged) position had they let the true current incarnation of Diana’s ideology shine. Fk their narcissistic, monstrous egos. I truly feel the ” slimming” and eventual devolution of the monarchy is about 20 years out. Maybe less, but I feel it is an eventuality… at least to this rational yank. Commonwealth UK Celebitches’ responses are gratefully accepted.

  70. Silent Star says:

    If only they had publicly and enthusiastically supported H&M, the whole royal family would have looked so progressive and compassionate, and maybe even won over a few anti-monarchists too. Not to mention they could have avoided a lot of bad publicity, damaged relationships, and emotional trauma. Why do they always make the worst decisions. Why is kindness so hard for these people.

  71. blunt talker says:

    KIng Charlie thinks that anyone who doesnot want to be royal or in their positions in life is just unthinkable-did being royal help Princess Margaret-Prince Andrew-Princess Diana-that life cause pain and destruction to these people-he can’t seem to grasp-some people prefer living very comfortable lives without all the pomp and circumstance-I truly adore the Sussex family just the way they are-their charity work -their interaction with other people-their kindess towards each other and the love for their children is their top concern-I admire all those qualities about them and whether they are royal or not I just don’t give a damn-I like the Sussex family for being and acting themselves-the rest of the drama in the Uk media can suck bricks.

  72. Bisynaptic says:

    The auto-fellation on display here is really quite something.

  73. Paulkid says:

    The monarchy is corrosive to the well being of the monarchy, Mr. Kay.
    Every vain, greedy, cruel, lying, unapologetic day, they dig themselves deeper into a pit of international disdain. I think Chawlz will be gobsmacked by the lack of respect and goodwill for his reign. He is jealous and desperate, but unwilling and unable to change. Now he will see the results of his selfish decisions.