Tina Brown: Prince Harry ‘still has a big role to play,’ he could be half-in!

Tina Brown’s The Palace Papers got some renewed interest following Queen Elizabeth II’s passing. People were turning on The Crown on Netflix, and people were buying The Palace Papers, so much so that Brown was called in to make some additional TV appearances to support her book and provide commentary for the royal drama. As we discussed when The Palace Papers came out, that book is a total mess and Brown has sources deep with Camp Middleton, and she often parrots the Middleton party line. Brown also curiously pulled her punches on some subjects, and refused to underline some of the deeper points she was making, especially about the Harry-William dynamic. Well, Brown had more sh-t to say this week. She appeared on Lorraine and said some curious sh-t.

Harry is magnificent: “The country loved that feeling of unity. They loved seeing the brothers back together and marching, and it really was a beautiful sight to see them all together and, let’s face it, Harry is a magnificent man, he looked wonderful I thought.”

Harry needs to cancel his memoir: “Unless he does give up his book and these tell-all documentaries and stops doing the interviews, then there can be no trust.” On Kelly’s suggestion that the elimination of the contentious memoir would turn a “fresh page” for the royal’s relationship with his family, Brown added: “If Harry doesn’t want to bin the book, then I don’t see a way forward.”

The royal family needs the Sussexes: “But I think if he does that, I think there’s very much a way [of a royal reunion] and I do actually think that the royal family now needs [Harry and Meghan]. There’s a lot of work to be done and Kate does not want to be spending her time traveling the world, she’s a mother of three children, as the Sussexes are, so they have to somehow divvy this stuff up.”

Harry has a role to play: “Harry has a big role to play, if he wants to now come in and do it,” Brown added about the potential for the Sussexes during the reign of Charles, “and the question is of course whether Meghan wants to, because she absolutely hated every bit of it. There should be a compromise where they spend four or five months of the year in California if they wish but actually [Harry] has got a role and I think that they should definitely make that compromise. The question is whether they both have the give to do it because as we know family rancour can go very deep.”

[From Newsweek]

Brown actually said some of this stuff when she promoted her book earlier this year, that despite all of the sh-tty things she said about “emotional, fragile, immature” Harry, the Windsors desperately needed him and his star power. Again, the family has a terrible way of showing it. They always had a sh-tty way of showing it, even when the Sussexes were in the UK. They were so clearly there for window-dressing, to be used as the young stars of the Firm, but then everyone got jealous of them and that’s when all of the palaces began to attack them.

This made me LMAO: “There’s a lot of work to be done and Kate does not want to be spending her time traveling the world…” Kate does not want to spend her time WORKING. Neither does William. They are so stupid and lazy, my god.

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  1. Tessa says:

    Kate cannot be bothered to do much work in her own country and the children are in school now Kate did not work much before she had the children

    • MakeEverydayCount says:

      There is always an excuse for Kate. The fact that these people believe that Harry puts Kate ahead of Meghan and his children is just plain bizarre and CRAZY. Let’s be clear: Harry doesn’t give a DAM about Kate!

      • MsIam says:

        Well clearly Harry’s children are not on the same level as Kate’s, which is why they probably will be stripped of any titles. So of course its perfectly fine for Harry to forget about them in order to make sure the pure white children have their parents available as much as possible. Because Kate is a mother! We see you Tina, we see exactly who you are.

      • L4Frimaire says:

        Seeing the way Harry wouldn’t even look at Kate in St. George Chapel, and she was trying hard to catch his eye, it’s obvious Harry is done with Kate. He was done with her since 2019.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      The fact that kHate was singled out for this comments tell me Ma has been drunk texting Brown.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Wiglet Wales will never work as she should work as a working royal.

      • Becks1 says:

        I agree its Ma Middleton, but I also think that this is a foreshadowing of a possible separation or divorce. Kate doesn’t want to travel the world, she needs to be there for her kids, she can’t work…..it makes for an easy divorce explanation.

    • Duchcheese says:

      Khate doesn’t want to be travelling all around the world, she’s got 3 children. Therefore, Harry and Meghan who are childless need to come crawling back and do the Whales’s job, gag me right now.🤢🤢
      Also, can these fools pick a lane and stay in it? We have been told ALL of Harry’s life that Harry is dim, William is bright. Harry is thick like 2 short plunks, William is the very smartest of them all. Harry failed to go to uni, William graduated in first class and the top of his class. Harry is the party animal, Wiliam is the levelheaded one with a moral compass. Harry is an alcoholic and a druggie, William is the best thing that ever happened to the Brits since the invention of electricity.
      Okay, now I say, why do the bright, smart, levelheaded, uni graduates, and everything good ones need the thick guy to succeed on anything? Shouldn’t it be the other way round? Just this year, that Tina Brown told us how Harry is fragile and immature; so now, what does the very finest mature people want from the fragile immature Harry? Oh, they can’t survive without the thick guy? I guess they aren’t all that and a bag of chips then, huh!! Meanwhile, the dim one is flying sky high with so many projects under his belt and still counting, a successful NGO organization, a smart, kind beautiful black woman, cutest kids to boot and living his best life, not showing any signs that he needs the ones he left back in the UK and can survive and succeed on his own, LOL. Yeah, dear ole Tina needs help if she thinks the dim guy is coming back to the UK. Seems like he is pretty happy with his life right now so, I guess the smart ones will just have to figure out how to move on without the dim one, LOL.

      • Gabby says:

        KKKate doesn’t mind travelling the world if it’s for her own recreation.
        She loves a trip to scuba dive, shop, suntan, and drink Crack Babies by the pool.

    • Lizzie says:

      KKKate leached onto Will for a decade for this position. Acting like she’s too good to do the work now is revolting.

    • Geegee says:

      Her waity years were a massive red flag the queen saw….that girl is lazy.

  2. ThatsNotOkay says:

    The Royal Rota does not want to become obsolete. That’s why they’re demanding Harry cancel his book and cease all documentaries. They’re so transparent it’s laughable.

    But half in, half outers have to be able to make money of their own. And this is the Sussexes doing that. Don’t like it? Tough! Plus, neither parent is going to spend 6/7 months of the year in England away from his/her kids and spouse just ’cause William the Wandering Willy wants to get pegged by some rando in a posh back alley.

    • Boxy Lady says:

      “We, who have written many, many books about the royal family, are telling a member of the royal family not to publish *his* book about the royal family.”


      • Amy T says:



      • jazzbaby1 says:

        @BOXY LADY


      • BothSidesNow says:

        Brava @ Boxy Lady!!!!

      • B says:

        Exactly @ Boxy Lady! For some reason the rota rats think only they can make money off the Sussexes story and lives but the Sussexes can’t tell their own story and profit.

        Its obvious its the rota that wants them back because of the income they generate. Just as its obvious the senior royals of that family don’t want them back because then they’d have to share the spotlight.

      • kirk says:

        🤩 Boxy Lady!
        Keep pushing that rope Tina. Maybe it will do what you want.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        Exactly! And also, the royals cannot trust Harry if he is going to talk about them . . . but *I* will talk about how the royals feel, with my inside knowledge that *I* am allowed to talk about, not him.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      This assessment is probably right. The Queen is now buried, they basically have Charles/Camilla and William and Kate. The others don’t really factor in. The writings on the wall. Some of these people are gonna lose their jobs and the public interest will wane. They’re worried about a slimmed down Rota more than a slimmed down monarchy. Who wants to listen to a podcast about Will and Kate playing rugby once again or visiting a rec center in Wolverhampton or some boring film premier. Rinse,repeat. The whole royal Rota industry really ramped up when Meghan joined the Firm. Now they’re back in California, probably withdrawing for a while, and the royal industry is still bloated. They’re holding on to this cash cow in the Sussexes for dear life, hence the frenzy and hate fest during this drawn out funeral and cries of half in. They can’t leave Harry and Meghan alone.

    • PrincessK says:

      Tina Brown has a nerve suggesting Harry cancels his book. So she can write about Harry but he cannot write about himself.

  3. SnoodleDumpling says:

    Uuuugh, of COURSE these people were going to take Harry participating in his Grandmothers’ funeral as a sign that they can drag him back into his little cage again.

  4. Tessa says:

    Meghan liked to work as a royal she did not hate it as Brown claims

    • Izzy says:

      Exactly! She hated the racism, the scapegoating… she rolled in there EAGER to work. Foreign concept to many in the BRF, I know, but there we have it…

      • Becks1 says:

        I think she hated the Firm, but loved meeting people and the philanthropic work. I think the part of the Firm that caught her off guard( besides the racism…) was realizing that the Firm is not actually an institution devoted to service and philanthropy.

      • Becks1 says:

        She was pregnant and had a child during that period.

        AND she did not (or was told she could not) put a lot of her engagements on the calendar. Kate can count a phone call with Jason Knauf as a royal engagement, but Meghan had nothing related to the Hubb cookbook as an event until the actual launch, nothing related to the Smart Set until the actual launch, nothing related to the Vogue issue until the actual launch, etc.

        Kate can barely break 150-200 WITH her fake counting. Kate went to the Caribbean for a week long tour and had to take an entire day off to go scuba diving.

        Trust me, Kate loses this one every time.

      • Green girl says:

        Agreed! The BRF were unprepared for Meghan and didn’t bother to make any changes, probably in the hopes she would just break up with/divorce Harry. And the BRF is absolutely a step down for someone who wants to make meaningful changes in the world.

      • Sunday says:

        @Twix, what an astute point, and this is another reason why Meghan just couldn’t understand how the firm operates. You see, her royal work – as Beck’s has pointed out, the Hubb cookbook, guest editing Vogue, the Smart Set collection – were actual, tangible initiatives that took time, effort, and skill to coordinate and which resulted in real-world, quantitative positive impacts for their respective organizations and audiences.

        Poor Meghan! She just didn’t understand that the Firm doesn’t exist to *do* philanthropy, it exists to *give the appearance* of philanthropy. If you succeed in raising funds for one charity, they’ll expect you to do it for all of them, and we can’t have that! No, she should’ve just showed up, smiled and posed for some photos like Kate, instead of putting actual effort into what turned out to be the fastest selling issue of British Vogue in history.

        Maybe if she had cowered to Jason Knauf and the hostile KP staffers who were making her life as difficult as possible while doing as little work for her as possible and actively leaking against her to the press all the while, they would’ve agreed to record her figures using the same creative accounting they apply to Kate… except if they had done that and counted all her meetings and phone calls, her numbers would’ve blown Kate’s out of the water and we can’t have that!

    • Louise177 says:

      Meghan not likely to work stuck out to me too. It’s actually been criticized that she was doing too much. Working was her only bright spot. Meghan was clear about hating the media and courtiers. It’s really bizarre how the media was no to half in/out. Now they are all on board and acting like Meghan and Harry never asked.

      • Midnight@theOasis says:

        The BM does everything they can to absolve themselves of their role in Sussexit. the BM wasn’t relentless in their assault and attacks on H&M.

    • Over it says:

      Yes, I believe she hated the daily smear abusive campaign. Let them try surviving when an entire powerful firm and a country entire media with lots of help from the Australian and some American media are coming at you all the time and most of these people have never met you

  5. Merricat says:

    The Sussexes are not coming back to work for William and Waity, lol. And Harry is not going to “cancel” his book.

    • Over it says:

      I am convinced these people live in an alternate universe. Where water is dry and oil is a solid. Only the British royals and their media would think they can abuse and racially destroy a man, hos wife and his children and yet expect him , especially after the last two weeks of abuse to walk out on his wife and children and come back to them for more abuse. Harry already gave sentabale a huge chunk of the money from his book, so nope he isn’t canceling it . And even if he ever considered doing it before and nope he never did . After the way they have been behaving recently, they should be counting their lucky stars that the book is already finished. If I were them I wouldn’t spend so much time worrying about this book, I would be sweating thinking about what he could put into the next one if he decides to write it because these clowns have given him more than enough material.

  6. Etha says:

    Katie really let herself go with those big jewels. Look at that big brooch!

  7. Eurydice says:

    Lol, how did the Sussexes acquire a third child? And, Tina, you who have published several books, tell us how Harry can cancel his book at this stage of the process.

    • MsIam says:

      And not just the book should be cancelled, also Netflix and Spotify too apparently. Not sure why the Sussexes would need to spend anytime in California then, since they would not be allowed to do any work. Unless of course the palace approves. Lets see, maybe a documentary on the wonders of Waity and Willy might get the green light?

    • Tan says:

      Lying Tina like all the rota rats needs Harry not talking like during the Funeral and for all those tens of days the world was good. Till he and Meghan go back and make their own headlines

  8. SH says:

    Everyone in the media keeps talking about wanting Harry’s book to go away because it would make their own books irrelevant and Harry would define his own narrative, but I suspect they also know that Harry would be far more interested and willing to expose the media in his book than he would the Royal family.

    • TangerineTree says:

      That’s exactly right. The lying media are threat-begging H to cancel his book to save themselves.

  9. Naomi says:

    British media is such trash. At least Brown begrudgingly acknowledges the importance of H&M. (Although that said American media isn’t 100% pro-Sussex: Tom and Lorenzo are big “Cathy Cambridge” stans, and while they recently admitted Meghan was stunning and impeccable at the funeral, they still had to dig at her about “breaking protocol” when she told the courtier at the walkabout that she wanted to personally hand over the flowers.)

    • Becks1 says:

      Tom and Lorenzo blocked me on Twitter years ago, which baffled me bc I don’t know if I’ve ever responded to one of their tweets and I have like 100 twitter followers, but someone said apparently they blocked everyone who was retweeting a rose emoji a few years back hahahahaha.

      • Wendy says:

        Tom and Lorenzo blocked me on Twitter last year for suggesting that saying all Ted Lasso fans are psychotic might be a wee bit over the top. I wear the block with honor — I loved their analysis of Mad Men through a style/design lens back in the day but have found little value in anything else they’ve had to offer since then. The world has enough catty bitches.

    • Amy Bee says:

      What’s going with Tom and Lorenzo is a bit more than them just being Kate stans.

      • Naomi says:

        do tell? I don’t follow them much on twitter because their views of the BRF irritate me too much, so maybe I’m missing out on something?

        Also @becks1, crazy that they blocked you!! says a lot…

      • Jais says:

        What do you mean it’s a bit more? I’ve read them once or twice and they usually say Kate looks impeccable and Meghan looks sloppy or ill-fitted. I’m honestly just baffled by their takes so don’t really follow them.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I listen to the Tom & Lorenzo podcasts. I do not think they are Kate “Stans” nor do I think they are Meghan “haters”. They really do not understand as much about the British Monarchy as we at CB do.

        The majority of their commentary is about clothes and fashion. Also, Tom and Lorenzo hold differing opinions on Sussexit and what it entails.

        If Tom & Lorenzo are “anti” anything towards the British Royal Family, it is anti-monarchy in general.

      • Becks1 says:

        Nah Tom and Lorenzo are definitely Kate stans. they try to hide it by criticizing her outfits once in a while but the website is definitely a pro-Kate website (its not only focused on Kate, just that their royal coverage is pro Kate.)

      • Naomi says:

        Yes, this makes total sense about gay white men– obviously not to make generalizations about the diverse demographic, but it’s a real thing (I also have been on the receiving end of misogyny from a few gay white men I know.)

        I think they overall peddle what the British media is pushing — generally that Kate is “queen to be” and so it’s fine if she drapes herself in pearls and cosplays the military with her button jackets, etc. Meanwhile they are always nitpicking Meghan and definitely push the racist narrative that she’s pushy, narcissistic, doesn’t know her place, etc.

      • lanne says:

        They disappoint me on this, too. I love their fashion takes, but they don’t seem to understand the dynamics of misogynoir at all. My guess is that they don’t really see Meghan as black because she is so white-presenting. I think that’s the willful blindnesss a lot of well-meaning white people. They think that proximity to whiteness is somehow a shield against racism (soimetimes it is, and even Meghan herself admitted this as her lived experience). So they discount the racism experienced by biracial or light-skinned black people, thinking it’s somehow less “authentic.”

        Here’s where Meghan occupies an awkward space. If she looked like Lupita Nyongo, the racism she experienced could not be discounted at all. Because she does not, there’s more “plausible deniability.”

      • sparrow says:

        I don’t know who Tom & Lorenzo are but I tell you dumped on Meghan big time. Enninful, editor of British Vogue. She edited the fastest selling UK Vogue of all time and then he waited before slagging her off and letting his views get printed in that Revenge book. I have cancelled my sub to UK Vogue, and I have subscribed for years.

      • Mary says:

        @sparrow, what views are these? In Bower’s book? Not a fan of Enninful after his prior comments about Meghan and the “rules” but I did not realize that there were further comments out there of his about Meghan. Please do tell!

      • Flowerlake says:

        I’m from a country where gay rights are not much of a political issue and haven’t been for decades*

        It’s very interesting to see how quick many of them started voting right of center once it was accomplished.

        (* not saying there are no social issues, just that gay marriage etc is generally accepted even by the moderate Christian party. Only some fringe political parties don’t agree. It’s not an election topic).

        They’re still men with all the privilige that comes with it.

    • sparrow says:

      Hi Mary. I have no idea how to reply to you directly, so hope you see this! I didn’t buy Revenge; I wasn’t going to give any extra £s to Bower. However, I did read reviews of his book. I believe there is a segment about Meghan’s editorship of Vogue and how Enninful had had enough of her and her demands, such as wanting to delay the release to do with the US market, and her decision to let other people be on the cover. Something like this. It was just stuff I’d never heard before – probably my ignorance and no doubt others know already. I couldn’t believe it. I don’t know whether these comments were given in an interview to Bower, direct from Enninful, or whether they were just being repeated. It all sounded really bitter and spiteful, and was seemingly printed without any objection from Enninful. Apparently, the whole Bower book is a repeat of everything out there already. The Guardian did a brilliant review.

      • Jais says:

        So many lies have found in bowers book that I just wouldn’t rely on anybody that as truth. Enniful has said on the record things but anything else suggested by bower just can’t be taken as real.

      • L4Frimaire says:

        @Sparriw, Enninful directly refuted Bowers claim about this in a recent interview. He said nothing was delayed and they launched the magazine as they wanted. He has his own book to sell and he said he loved working with Meghan on the issue and he hasn’t deviated from that. Also, considering how early the September issues launch and with digital editions, I seriously doubt that waiting for the US market is even a thing.

      • PrincessK says:

        Please don’t read anything written by that old goat Bower. He twists everything people tell him. He approached lots of people who refused to be interviewed for the book. Heaven knows why Enniful agreed to give him the time of day.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      I can’t stand them. They’re very dismissive of Meghan and speak about her with barely veiled contempt. They begrudgingly admitted she conducted herself perfectly during this whole funeral period. They do actually like how Kate presents herself, thinks she brings the glamour to the role and knows what she’s doing. That’s how they see it. I think the monarchists actually do like how Kate does things and refuse to see her shortcomings and pettiness. It’s the rest of society and the bored press who want more, which is not her nature at all, and would upset the monarchists. Anyway, not into those two bitchy guys, but they occasionally make astute observations.

      • QuiteContrary says:

        I didn’t know all this about T&L. I just was struck by their one comment saying it wasn’t Meghan’s fault that she looked better than the rest at the funeral.

        And I always assumed their references to Cathy Cambridge were dismissive because I am so dismissive of her LOL.

    • Bren says:

      I stopped following T&L on Twitter and reading their site when they had a hissy fit about Meghan fans calling them out for not covering her NAACP Image Awards. Their excuse was that there were no high-definition pictures available for them to create a post. I thought it was a lame excuse but it was their choice.

    • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

      That was the end of Tom and Lorenzo for me. Rolled my eyes, unfollowed. Zero tolerance for anybody pushing racist false narratives and passive-aggressive bullshit.

  10. Noor says:

    Queen Elizabeth never said she needed Princess Margaret in order to rule . She also never asked her to help because she did not like travelling.

    Tina Brown tying herself up in knots trying to justify why royals needs Prince Harry. Is she implying that Prince William and Kate on their own are not adequate support to the monarchy

    • Naomi says:

      good point! QEII — for all her flaws — worked hard, traveled, and had FOUR kids.

      and yet somehow this doesn’t come up when discussing how Princess White Woman Hothouse Flower can’t *possibly* lift a finger when she’s got 3 kids to raise.

      (just to be clear, the reality is that just bc QEII did her job she was not a feminist; she upheld/uphold institutional sexism & racism, which is straight up the job of being a monarch. Kate may not be a #girlboss like her grandmother in law, but the right-wing media love her because she is a model of retrograde womanhood: seen not heard, devoted only to the child-rearing and keeping house, ie she ‘knows her place’)

    • Nina says:

      Lol the rf blew it, if Charles abs William and Kate could have regulated their envy and vanity and accepted that they didn’t have to be the exciting royals and had been happy just with eventually being kings and queens, they would have let Harry and Meghan shine and work hard for them.

      Instead they got jealous, drove them away, exposed their idiocy and racism, and now the world thinks they’re useless. And now they want them to come back “cause there’s work to do and Kate’s a mom?” Lollll karma

      • Amy Too says:

        What bugs me is that this woman seems to begrudgingly remember that Harry and Meghan also have children when she’s mid-“Kate can’t work, she has CHILDREN” tirade, but Kate’s kids are all older than Harry and Meghan’s. Kate’s kids are all in full time school. Megan had a literal infant at home and a 3 year old. She has 2 kids who could very well still be in diapers/pull ups. She has a child who is technically young enough to still be nursing. Neither of her kids are probably in full time school. And yet she and Harry need to come back so they can “split” the job with poor maternal, homebody Kate because *she* has kids!? Meghan and Harry have babies still.

    • Flowerlake says:

      Good point.

      W&K are nearing the age that many royals become the monarch in other countries. This because in many other countries, the monarchs abdicate before they get very old.

      They just became crown prince snd princess, not even monarch yet

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes , she is . I think Tina Brown is more favourable to the Sussexes but has to be careful not to appear too anti Kate and William for fear her sources will shut the door.
      Tina Brown is a monarchist and she knows who the stars of the family are and the dull ones who will not make any impact.
      This explains how Tina Brown keeps flip flopping…very disappointing.

  11. truthSF says:

    “and the question is of course whether Meghan wants to, because she absolutely hated every bit of it.”

    What a bunch of crock from Tina. Meghan loved every bit of the work she’s done. She just hated every bit of the attack because of its success! And let’s bee real, every single project Meghan worked on (while a working royal) was a massive success…massive!! And it was the firm (especially the gruesome foursome) that hated it!!

    It’s about to get really bad for both the firm and the rota as reality sets in. Without the queen, the nostalgic era is officially over! And without Harry & Meghan, what the firm has left will not satisfy the public at all!!

    • Jais says:

      Okay that line about her hating every bit of it jumped out at me. You know why? The only other person I’ve heard say it is the one and only Angela Levin in that viral video of her being taken down. So, Tina Brown literally just repeated a talking point from Angela Levin. Now, did Angela come up with that or did she get it from hate accounts. Either way, it suggests TB is rolling in the mud.

      • Becks1 says:

        I don’t know where that line came from, but I think its going to be one of the new talking points as to why HARRY can come back but not Meghan (I’m sure the line came from BP or KP.) Meghan doesnt want to come back, she hated every moment of it, but harry wants to!

        And yes, Meghan hated every minute of the racist press, the toxicity, the scapegoating, the attacks, the false bullying allegations, etc. She didn’t hate the work.

      • Jais says:

        Yeah I don’t where it originated from? It’s just that TB touts herself as something more than a regular RR, which to her credit, she’s done a lot more with vanity fair and the New Yorker. But now she’s out here repeating the same lines as Angela Levin. Like that’s embarrassing. And yeah, the people from the Hubb, smartworks and mayhew would disagree with the idea that she hated everything.

    • Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

      Imho, Meghan loved being able to really help people what she didn’t care for was the nonsensical aspects like showing up for 45 minutes, waving, accepting flowers and then leaving. I believe that Meghan and Harry really thought that they could actually be of service to the people of the UK and the commonwealth but didn’t realize that the royal version of service doesn’t really mean being of service, just appearing to be.

      • Lucy says:

        Yes! That’s why I’ve always thought! They really planned on making real changes and providing real assistance. And part of the palace issues were the men in gray saying, no no no, you’re just supposed to smile for photo ops, that is the work. And then the people who were supposed to be working for them were resentful that they were expected to do more than coordinate photo ops, and that they were supposed to do what this uppity black American woman was asking them to, and boom, bullying.

        Anyway, they wanted to work, not play, and no one could handle that. Also I’m petty, so if I were the Sussexes I’d mention that half in, half out has already been offered and rejected in my next public statement. Also I’d write a book so scorching hot that the men in gray wouldn’t be able to go out in public.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    It’s too late to turn back now. The family had the chance to keep Harry in the fold and they rejected it. All the family had done was convince Harry that he made the right decision to leave and with grandmother gone there’s no reason for him to return to the fold.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Amy Bee, well said!! These past two weeks have cemented their trust that they made the right decision and they are both better for it.

      QEII has passed now and any loyalty that Harry and Meghan had for the Monarchy died with her.

  13. Moderatelywealthy says:

    “There’s a lot of work to be done and Kate does not want to be spending her time traveling the world”

    Translation: after Caribbean flop, Kate does not want to travel the world to see brown people ever again. If Meghan could be their Uncle Tom, they would reward her with Kate´s scraps.

    • The Duchess says:

      Kate doesn’t want to work full stop. She’s tired of having to pretend to tolerate black and brown people and she’s tired of having to fake it with her husband. All she wants are the jewels, titles and the luxury getaways.

      • Mimi says:

        They are not benign observers. They are on record with some very “deranged” takes, such as stating that Harry was always jealous of William and wanted to be king; that Harry was angry that William got better patronages; that Meghan trashed Kate in the Oprah interview; and that the Oprah interview was the biggest betrayal on the part of Harry & Meghan. They are far from anti-monarchy.

      • Mimi says:

        Sorry, this belonged under the thread about Tom & Lorenzo.

  14. ELX says:

    It’s never going to happen. The golden goose has flown away and he’s not leaving his wife and children and coming back. They should be worried about riots this winter.

    Tina et al will have to drum up another money-maker. I doubt W&K will do anything—he’s got his hands on the duchy, they have their own revenue stream, and will be permanently on vacation from here on.

  15. Becks1 says:

    Sooo…harry (not necessarily Meghan, but def harry) needs to come back in a part-time capacity because A) it makes the Windsors look better and B) Kate is lazy and does not want to “travel the world”?

    the first one we all know at this point…the Windsors need harry back, desperately. the second one is just starting to say the quiet part out loud (again) – Kate is lazy and does not want to work. She does not want to travel the world, she does not want to travel in the UK, she does not want to work in London.

    Its kind of like a Dr. Seuss book. She will not work in a boat, she will not work with a goat.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      And the world doesn’t want Kate traveling it either. Who can forget the disastrous Caribbean tour? Tina Brown can!

    • kirk says:

      “She will not work in a boat, she will not work with a goat.”
      Hear that Osbourne woman also thinks Harry needs to be in England. Forget what her claim to fame is, augmented reality?

  16. Jay says:

    Whoa, looks like our comment section weren’t the only ones noticing how “magnificent” Harry looked in his uniform!

    But this is a preposterous and disingenuous offer – they won’t “accept” Harry back into the fold if he somehow cancels his lucrative book that’s already done, they’d find something else to whinge about.

    • QuiteContrary says:

      That’s the only thing Tina B got right: Harry is a magnificent man. Who’s married to a magnificent woman. And he knows it, so he’s not going to do anything that will place his wife in harm’s way again.

  17. Elizabeth says:

    Ever since the Queen passed, I’ve seen articles about what Harry needs to do: he needs to cancel his memoir, he needs to leave Meghan in CA and come back to support William & Charles, and he needs to apologize to William. And the entire two weeks he was in the UK, Charles and William spent their time humiliating and briefing against him, while Kate and Camilla acted like Mean Girls toward Meghan. Why would Harry & Meghan come back to support the monarchy after that? Tina Brown is ridiculous.

  18. Geegee says:

    So basically come back and do our work for us while we abuse you. This is the problem with william and Charles. They both clearly suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. They have been raised their entire lives to believe they are the most important person in any room they walk into and the only one that matters. Harry is not a person to them and he does not matter. They should be able to treat him as badly as they like and he should just quietly take it, because he doesn’t matter. Only they matter. The thing is narcissists don’t change. They can’t change. This is how they see the world. This is what the monarchy will be for the next two generations and there it is like George will turn out the same way because it is the system that made will and Charles like this. The monarchy is broken time to abolish it.

  19. The Duchess says:

    Something tells me that either Charles or William have made a big promise to the media that they are going to make sure that Harry’s book is cancelled. If that promise isn’t fulfilled, all hell will break loose. It’s clear that the media have been briefed with these pathetic lines of trying to get Harry back into the fold. Didn’t him travelling straight home with Meghan to finally see THEIR kids put all that nonsense to bed? The media can see the writing on the wall and they know that Will & Keen are simply too lazy and boring to bring in interest. Now all of a sudden a ‘half-in, half-out’ model is attainable? Pull the other leg, TB.

    The Windsor’s are truly a trapped bunch and it’s what they all deserve. Harry & Meghan are free and you’re just going to have to cope.

    • Amy Bee says:

      The fact Harry left the UK the first chance he got should tell people that he has no interest in returning to fold. I don’t know what it would take for them to realise that there’s no chance of him returning.

      • Molly says:

        What’s the upside to Harry and Meghan if they return? Everything royal they’ve done since 2022 was out of respect and affection for the queen. With her gone, it’s nothing. The press can wail all they want about the sussexes “needing” proximity to royalty to remain relevant, but they all know that’s a joke.

        The downsides to returning, as Harry and Meghan have both painfully spelled out, are legitimately life threatening for a variety of reasons. Stay mad, y’all, your boy ain’t coming back.

    • Flower says:

      @The Duchess – I don’t see how that is in the interest of the press.

      Tina Brown is a client journalist for the BRF, so this reads more to me like she is reaching out on behalf of Chuck.

      It’s actually in the press interest for Harry to print the book as it ups the ante and provides them with even more material to generate clicks and content from.

      The whole UK press pack logically should be living in anticipation of this book for the cottage industry of made up think pieces and outrage it will generate.

      The trepidation seems to be coming from Charles and Kate in particular. Everyone seems to think William made the comment about Archie but more and more I think it was actually Kate.

      I say this because of (1) Kates physically threatening behavior to Meg we witnessed on the walkabout and (2) years ago KP were up in arms about a particular line in the first H&M film that was spoken by Kate’s character, something about whether Meg could adapt to this way of life. That sounded exactly like something Kate would say and very much like the comments made about Archie.

      I think the biggest losers from this book could be Kate then Charles. Harry knows he can snipe her and still have an in later down the line and in that respect that leaves Kate woefully exposed and vulnerable. This could also explains Kate’s venom towards Meghan as she lacks the self awareness to see that she was the architect of her own downfall in treating Meghan so disdainfully.

      Somewhere along the line Kate began to believe in her own embiggening press and lost perspective. Cue the poor treatment of Meghan, which she though that Harry would tolerate (bc the same had been done to her and William had tolerated it). Instead Harry stood up for his wife, William again did not defend Kate and now here we are.

      • Merricat says:

        No, the same wasn’t done to Kate as was done to Meghan. Were any of Kate’s children likened to a different species? Racist and rude are not the same, as Meghan pointed out.

      • Flower says:

        @Merricat – is that a response to my comment ?

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Merricat, agreed!!

        @ Flower, KHate had the red carpet rolled out for her within the BRF, RR’s as well as the The Firm since her days at University. KHate has been given every exception and never the scrutiny.

        Meghan suffered greatly from daily vilifying attacks from multiple platforms within and outside of the Monarchy. They treated Meghan abhorrently and yet neither Charles, nor QEII, lifted a finger for Meghan, but they have always gone out of their way to protect KHate.

        The BRF were graciously offered the chance for Harry and Meghan to an still serve to the benefit of The Monarchy half in/out, but they ALL refused.

        Yet, still to this day, the attacks against Meghan have NEVER ceased.

        And here we are again with TB creating the “necessary demands” that Harry MUST perform in order to serve KCIII but not ONE mention of sincere apologies from Charles, W and /or K for their campaign to destroy Meghan??? No truth regarding how hard and brilliantly Meghan worked for the Firm, with her brilliant and successful projects that she fulfilled???

        But it’s up to Harry to cast aside his magnificent life, sever his book release as well as his other endeavors and abandon his wife and children to “come back” and serve HIS duty??

        They ALL have an enormous amount of audacity to regurgitate this absolute nonsense………

      • aftershocks says:

        @Flower: “Everyone seems to think William made the comment about Archie but more and more I think it was actually Kate.”

        The conversations regarding H&M’s offspring that took place with Harry when Meghan was pregnant with Archie would have involved William, Charles, and their top courtiers. Kate had NO direct involvement in these conversations. Kate was NOT and is NOT in any position of authority or leverage over Harry regarding his offspring’s potential skin color being connected to titles and security!

        Khate might think whatever and act mean-girly toward Meghan, but she did not speak to Harry about what his offspring potentially might look like. Such conversations would only have occurred between Harry, his father, his brother, and the men-in-grey. Meghan even said that Harry told her about the conversations, so nothing was said directly to Meghan by any of the royal family perpetrators in this regard.

  20. girl_ninja says:

    Harry and Meghan tried to work part-time as royals and quite honestly it would still have been more than what both Will and KKKate do. H & Megs are STILL doing more than those two do! All of her accolades for Harry and none for Meghan are so transparent. This notion that Tina Brown has is mute, empty, simple & RACIST. It’s time for Tina to either reevaluate her existence or retire all together.

  21. MK says:

    Honest question- is it possible Kate does so little because when they married she got so much attention? I’ve always wondered how much William hated that, like, is this what he wants? Her out if the way and him in all the spotlight?

    Not giving her a pass I just wonder how much autonomy she really has.

    • C says:

      Well, she never worked before marriage either. And other royal reporters confirmed that they can make whatever schedules they want. I honestly think William wouldn’t care if she worked more because it would reflect well on him and then he wouldn’t have to as much.

    • Becks1 says:

      She has plenty of autonomy. One of the reasons her visits get so much attention (relatively) is bc there are so few of them. If she was working like Anne, then her visits would blend together. Like in the other post Kaiser linked to a time Kate wore that some coat before, my guess it took Kaiser 5 minutes to find those pictures bc she makes so few appearances its easy to remember what she wore and when.

      but even if William said “you can’t outwork me” – okay, but she could still work MORE. I think William averages around 200-250 events a year (excluding 2020). As Nic919 pointed out yesterday, Kate has broken 200 engagements ONCE in 11 years of marriage. So she could still do 50 more events a year and William would still be ahead of her.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ MK, TOB has zero care if his wife worked, though his only concern would be her working would expose his equally lazy ass as well!

    • Christine says:

      The short answer is she’s never done a thing, for anyone, other than birth 3 kids.

  22. Brassy Rebel says:

    People who write books about Harry but insist Harry cannot write or speak about himself are tiresome. And, no, I don’t think Harry wants to be a part time royal and a part time husband and father. What is wrong with this wretched woman? The only thing she got 💯 is, “Harry is a magnificent man.” He will continue to be magnificent away from his toxic relatives.

  23. Alexandria says:

    I would say the media needs Harry more but they’re trying to say it’s the family. The royal family can be slimmed down and exist based on lack of inertia. Let’s face it the BM can’t say much about WK for some weird reason and need Harry and by extension Meghan and the children to write their fantasy stories. If they’re half in it lends their stories some legitimacy instead of the current situation where they have explicitly stated they will not speak to these outlets. So before WK kids grow up and go through their awkward years in front of the press, the BM needs Harry to be half in half out.

    Too bad so sad. FAFO.

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, I was going to post the same thing. The RF can figure it out – they can cut back on the patronages, boost the W&K appearances and then coast along. I don’t think the public is clamoring to see much more than that. It’s the royal reporting industry that needs more.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Yup!! They have lost their golden geese with H&M and they desperately want the &&&&&& that came with it!! It’s purely financially incentive for them and deadly for Harry and Meghan.

  24. Flower says:

    The irony of the press pushing for the 50:50 model now and even begging for less given that it was the Press that vilified H&M.

    I want team Montecito to sip their wine as it dwindles to sh!t in the UK.

    At least the journos are now being honest about how lazy and lacking in charisma the Wails are.

  25. Selene says:

    I love how all of the royal rota have been forced to admit how fabulous and spectacular H & M are!

    • sparrow says:

      I agree. I think they were blown away by Meghan’s strength and dignity during these past days. The way she handled everything including the funeral was textbook grace. Wasn’t there someone who worked with all of the “fab four” who said she was the most intelligent one in the room and people underestimated her ability at their peril. They threw away such potential.

      • lanne says:

        Meghan was never the evil person they claimed she was. Every appearance she makes proves that. He intelligence and her beauty are undeniable, and it’s their fault that they couldn’t see a way to take advantage of her talents to benefit the firm. In a sense, it’s too bad that she isn’t married to the heir. (except that i wouldn’t wish William on her and she would never be acceptable with her “mixed” blood)

    • L4Frimaire says:

      I think while many of us noticed how nervous Meghan was on that walkabout, with Kate’s death stares,I still think she was very dynamic, gracious and made a connection with the crowd. Felt very proud of how she conducted herself because there were people there who wouldn’t shake her hand, but it seemed like some ice broke toward the end and people were happy to see them, calling her and Harry’s name. There is no disputing the Sussexes charisma, even during the most stressful of situations.

      • aftershocks says:

        The walkabout happened last minute. Thus Meghan had little time to prepare herself emotionally in dealing with suddenly being in close proximity to W&K. Plus, Meg may have been a bit nervous at first regarding the crowd reception, which ultimately turned out okay.

  26. Jais says:

    The whole they need to divvy up the work bc it’s not fair to Catherine is something else. Thank god Meghan is not there. Her children would not be treated well and nor would her time as a mother be respected in the way that Kate’s is.

  27. Snuffles says:

    I just love seeing these mutha fuckas beg and lose their minds. It’s a competition to see who is more freaked out about that memoir, the press, the royal courtiers or the royal family. I keep imagining hearing the JAWS theme song as Harry’s manuscript lurks in the murky depths of the sea before jumping out of the water and swallowing them whole.

    I am PRAYING the book drops in November the same time Season 5 of The Crown premiere because the breakdowns will be EPIC!


  28. C says:

    No. That ship has sailed. They offered to do this in 2020 and were refused. It had to be all or nothing, so Harry has confirmed it is nothing. And if Kate doesn’t want to work more in exchange, too bad.

    • TeamMeg says:

      Exactly. This is what Harry asked for — he never “quit” the Royal Family (not that one can) or turned his back on the work. He just wanted to go part time. The Queen’s answer was no. Maybe newly-minted King Charles is thinking yes…but is that offer still on the table?

    • MF says:

      “And if Kate doesn’t want to work more in exchange, too bad.”

      Yup. Kate probably should’ve thought of this before she engineered a racist media campaign against Meghan.

  29. Mess says:

    Now why would Harry wants to go back to this shamble of an institution after working with professionals on Archewell/ Better Up/ Invictus/ Sentebale etc? Seeing the many fumbles and leaks over the mournathon highlighted why the royal staffers couldn’t stand Meghan. Her expectations on her team then are what she’s getting from the Archewell team now – work just goes along behind an impenetrable fortress until the time for their planned execution i.e. professionalism.

  30. L84Tea says:

    I hate to put it this way, but I am so relieved that the bandaid of the queen’s death & funeral has been ripped off and is done because it seems as if every time Harry sets foot on European soil of any kind, the Rota gets its hopes up sooo badly that Harry could return. This article comes off so unbelievably desperate and sadly hopeful, like a girl who got dumped ages ago and just knows in her heart of hearts that he WILL come back one day! Now that there are no grandparents left to dangle over Harry’s head, I am hoping H&M will stay away from the UK for a good long while. I think time is the only thing that might help these fools accept that he’s not coming back.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ L84Tea, I am not as optimistic as you are. I believe that they will be beating this dead horse until Harry passes away.

      Yet, I am an extremely optimistic person, I do not believe that the likes of Brown nor the deranged RR’s will ever let this go.

  31. ML says:

    Um, I think the past 2 or so weeks have driven home how cruel GB has been to Meghan (especially) and Harry. Internationally, this was one of the main themes, often in actual news (as opposed to gossip): like holy *bleep* what they said in the Oprah special was right…at a time where the focus should have been on QE and KC. Tina Brown needs to take a good long look in the mirror at herself.

  32. Nevia says:

    “There’s a lot of work to be done, and Kate does not want to be spending her time traveling the world, she’s a mother of three children.”

    Well, tough luck. She is also the new Princess of Wales, courtesy of her father-in-law. Big shoes to fill, big responsibilities, et cetera, et cetera. So she’d better get to work.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Yup! It was all that she ever wanted, and more with the direct access to cash now, that she signed up for ALL of this!! IF KHate was willing to work she would have within the first five years of marrying-in. KHate does NOT want to work, will not work.

      Maybe they should have not given her free reign to sit on her lazy arse for the last 10+ years.

  33. Flower says:

    I don’t think they want the Sussexs back. I think this is just Chucks way of communicating that he is willing to give Harry what he wants if he cancels the book.

    That ship has sailed – they just don’t want certain facts out there.

    These articles have got ‘carrot’ , ‘stick’ and ‘call us’ written all over them.

    I don’t see Harry going back, too much has happened.

    • Well Wisher says:

      The king is unfamiliar with the word ‘No’.
      He had never been required to listen to his agreeable son.
      Hence the anger, shaming and demands.

  34. sparrow says:

    I hate this. I hate that they got Meghan to do the flower walk just so she was seen early enough to dampen interest in her on the day of the funeral. After which they then returned to full on demeaning of Harry – he couldn’t wear his uniform; he was denied the use of ER on his shoulders; they put out that his children won’t be titled properly. I thought Charles’ broadcast, where he talked of sending his love to Meghan and Harry while they build their lives overseas, was taken as his passive aggressive way of telling them to stay away. Hmm. Perhaps the idiots now realise how much warmth there is for this couple, particularly amongst younger people.

    • Well Wisher says:

      The flower walk was to quell the leak about them not wanting Meghan at Balmoral.
      It was met with suspicion, which explained the 45 minute story, but doing it exposed a lot.
      The Wales unquenchable thirst for attention, Kate’s rudeness and antisocial behaviour and William coming to terms that the Sussexes are a solid team.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Well Wisher, the flower walk was simply an impetus with regards to the fact that Charles became aware that H&M intended to do so solely. Which prompted Charles to immediately instruct both parties to walk, otherwise H&M would have been seen as the ones sympathetic and caring that H&M have with regards to the thousands that came out. KCIII could not possibly allow H&M to show up not only him but the Wails as well.

      • ChillinginDC says:

        Bothsides that’s not true. There’s no way Harry was doing a solo walk with Meghan. If so, they would not have had the whole 45 minute wait.

      • Laura D says:

        Sorry to disagree but, I firmly believe the flower walk was intended as a walk of shame. I think “they” thought people would be disappointed with W&K being on the other side and would be vocal with their discontent (a bit like Charles and Di’s walkabout). Instead, there was the odd Karen but, on the whole people were genuinely pleased to see H&M. This was cemented with the young girl asking for (and getting) a hug. The palace must have been gutted when the hug went viral and made news headlines all around the world.

  35. anna says:

    insane – you expect them to show up just to be punching bags???

    also someone has to push back on her lie – Meghan didn’t hate the work – she did a ton of charity work and multiple tours (morocco, the pacific) while pregnant. she couldn’t live with how the family and the press hated her. the press constantly said harry and the country would be better without her – for no reason other than jealousy and racism

    • QuiteContrary says:

      It’s clear that Meghan loves actual work and is tenacious about being prepared. Unlike Kate, who can’t be bothered to prep for any appearance.

      Meghan is a woman of substance. Kate is vaporous.

  36. Beach Dreams says:

    1) All these articles begging Harry to come back have a complete disregard of his and Meghan’s children and it’s disgusting. Obviously Meghan is hardly a second thought either, but the way they ignore Archie and Lili (besides speculating about titles) is extremely telling.

    2) What’s also quite telling is that line about Kate. I’m of the increasing suspicion that perhaps she’s not as excited to have the Wails title as we all expected she would be. This is at least the second time she’s been portrayed as being reluctant to step up to the plate (in nicer words of course). I wonder if it’s fully dawning on her that she can’t get away with resting on her laurels as easily now that she’s in a more prominent role.

    • Lady D says:

      I don’t think she has any laurels. She has done literally nothing to earn any, other than the pretty ribbon she got for keeping her mouth shut about wandering Willy.

    • Well Wisher says:

      These are demands by people who feel that they do not have to account for their behaviour.
      Harry’s line in the sand was the vile unconscionable, horrible media which was briefed by KP while Jason Knauf was in their employ.
      St James and/or BP did not to stop the hostile press.
      Today all the conditions and people remain with the fail as the new public relations arm for the new king and his wife.
      None of the Harry’s are addressed only underlying threats.
      It seems like the newly minted titles have embolden the Fab Four to drop the mask.
      Their inappropriate behaviour was on display for all to see, and the public was informed that it was “an olive branch ” (if olive trees can talk) and “unity”.
      It was microagression.

  37. Over it says:

    Lol. If Kate has to spend all her time traveling the world and working, how will she have time for her button collecting?
    How will Willy find time pegging?

    • Well Wisher says:

      Most of the realms will change their head of state, repatriate their constitution, create their own charter of rights, whilst remaining in the Commonwealth.
      Visibility and status for senior female member of the European Monarchy will most likely go to Queen Mary, which explained the snub.
      Where will she go except Australia, Canada and how often?
      The US for trade talks??
      It is not that people around the world are clamouring for her visits.
      She cannot outshine her husband, and is not terribly interesting, just like England under the Tories.
      It is a rush to the bottom in practical terms.

  38. NCWoman says:

    The sadists are stumped that their victims aren’t masochists who accept and enjoy the abuse. There’s no half-in now lol.

  39. Lana Fox says:

    Hilarious. These royal pundits are so deeply delusional. The world just witnessed the royal family treating H & M like trash for multiple days and the problem is STILL on H to get back on track and M to shape up or ship out. While would they possibly go back?

    Harry was there to honor his grandmother, that’s it. And the institution still took every petty pound of flesh and threw it in his face whenever they could. Meanwhile, the tabloids resumed a feeding frenzy on M with THE SAME OLD GARBAGE the minute they touched down. And its worse this time because the whole world now knows the toll those attacks had on M last time and the family STILL did nothing – they didn’t call their trash friends at the Daily Mail, they didn’t even stage one kind picture to show some solidarity or support for her.

    Of course, the royal family needs them. The UK is about to lose the Commonwealth and probably the UK too. But those asshats would still rather see Meghan die than grow up, so frankly I’m fine with the monarchy crumbling into the sea.

  40. TL says:

    They really don’t want Harry to publish his book

    • Flower says:

      Possibly bc it destroys the previously laid out narrative of Harry being a drunken idiot who lived in the shadow of his brother.

      It pierces the veil and potentially destroys the fictional mystique that the BRF have of their special selves.

  41. aquarius64 says:

    If Kate didn’t want to work she shouldn’t have married the future head of state and head of nation. As PssOW and FQC travel and meet & greet come with job/marriage.

  42. thaisajs says:

    I find it fascinating that the BRF seems to keep thinking that this book will be all about them and all of their petty dramas. What if — and I’m just spitballing here — Harry’s book is about HARRY and his life experiences? Growing up with his brother and remembrances of his mom, his military service, being an idiot in Vegas, establishing Invictus and meeting his wife? Harry has had a perfectly interesting life on his own, he doesn’t need to spend his time rehashing stuff about Camilla and Charles. I’m sure he’ll come at the press and the “grey men” in the castles but honestly, he’s pulled his punches so many times since leaving. I don’t expect the book to be any different.

    • Aidevee says:

      I’ve wondered this too and I hope his book is exactly this.

      I reckon the RF would hate that even more though, because people would read it and warm to Harry again. All of their carefully constructed narratives about him being thick/controlled/rude/ungrateful etc would disintegrate.

  43. JCallas says:

    I don’t think Charles or William want the Sussexes back. They were there for ten days. Charles could have asked them to come back. Instead he snubbed and briefed against them the whole time and is changing the law to remove the kids titles/ remove Harry as a Counsellor of State.

    The Press wants them back because they’re losing money. Kate doesn’t work so there are no engagements to cover. They need the Sussexes back so they can create drama.

    • Renae says:

      “Charles could have asked them…..”
      That’s it in a nutshell.
      Charles doesn’t particularly want them….yet! (He will)
      I agree with @thais. Harry’s book will be about Harry. There might be an aside or two but it will be 90% about Harry. That’s THIS book. But, keep pecking and him and Meghan and dissing their children and Harry will write book #2 and it will be on FIRE.

  44. HeyKay says:

    I think H&M and children will be fine in CA.

    Charles and William need to get their acts together if they want their jobs.
    It’s on them.

    It would be nice and can see this happening, Bea, Eugenie, Zara all getting together with H&M for vacations, not in the UK.

    Yeah, the press and RR are bent outta shape that they can’t control Harry. They will go on forever with their “inside info” and BS books because that is how they make their money.
    Not a dime of my money on any of it.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Remember who controls the cash as part of the Duchy of Lancaster? Most of the king’s siblings are subsidised by that duchy.
      Their personal feelings aside, they would’ve to be careful as to how they express their solidarity.
      The man had no qualms in trying to embarrass his son at his grandmother’s funeral, while the world looked on. Not to mention the son’s wife.

  45. Merricat says:

    The irony of getting what you wished for, but oh, no! now you have to work! is deliciously hilarious.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Merricat, you took the words right out of my mouth.

      I think it’s long past due for the RR’s, the royal “experts” and the likes of TB to let it go!! There will be no demands placed on Harry, no apologies, no scrapping of his much anticipated book nor for him to return to the Island of Petty, racist, abhorrent and equally vile members that would prompt him to abandon his wife and children. They are simply not willing to allow the continued abuse of Meghan, as well as his children.

      They can all FO and shut up!!

  46. Steph says:

    Does anyone know or have a link (from this site hopefully) that shows the TL of when W & K got married until they became full time royals?
    I’m asking bc I feel like that grace period was never extended to H&M. They literally should have been half in, half out automatically.

    • Becks1 says:

      HAHAHAHA. Have they ever been FT royals?

      I don’t have a link but I can tell you. Here’s a rough TL, others can fill it in better. so they got married in 2011, and lived in Wales for the first two years and were “part time royals” during that period. (“lived in” wales is kind of a generous term since Kate was at her parents a lot or in London.) In 2013, when Kate was pregnant with George, KP 1A was renovated for them and was going to be their full time royal residence because they were going to be FT royals.

      haha fooled you! At some point after that (this is what I don’t remember) they got Anmer and basically decamped to there. that’s where George started nursery school, etc.

      In 2017 it was said they were going to be full time royals, they were moving back FT to KP, etc.

      September 2017 Kate announced her third pregnancy. I think if you can find that post on this site, you would probably see that most of the responses were “oh wow, so she’s never working FT is she.” And that was kind of all they wrote. She took off for a large portion of her pregnancy, she went on maternity leave for months, she spent months smearing her SIL, she disappeared in 2019 when the affair rumors broke, and then the pandemic hit.

      As we discussed yesterday Kate has only broken 200 engagements in a year ONCE. And since she includes phone calls with Jason Knauf and the like as engagements, and there are multiple engagements in a day sometimes, and they count things like the christmas walk….it really shows you how she was probably working less than 100 days a year.

    • Becks1 says:

      I found the story from when she was pregnant! The comments are actually more of a mixed bag than I remember, everything from “they make cute babies” to “William is going to abdicate so there will be a hunger games to determine the next monarch” LOL. But you can see in Kaiser’s post….Kate’s never gonna work FT if she can help it.


  47. sparrow says:

    I’ve been thinking a bit more about this while doing the tumble drying! There is no way Kate would want them back. Yes, Harry, so she can pretend he loves her on the sly. But not Meghan. Meghan’s ability with people and projects, her public speaking, her charisma and looks. Kate would go mad. I suspect if talks are really going on, Kate is saying a big no. Perhaps a lot of tension around this for her. No wonder William is fake touching her back today.

    • Lady Digby says:

      Is Kate really upset to be in the presence of Harry and Meg because their genuine love and happy partnership under lines the empty shell of her own marriage? When we are truly happy and content in our own lives, we don’t rubbish or begrudge others happiness? Kate got the big ass title and loot and endless fawning press but still looks like someone pissed on her crown because her own husband barely tolerates her. It is eating her up that H is so loyal and protective of his wife. Who made Kate cry and continues to do so? Well that will be Will and his wandering ways!

    • A says:

      The best press and PR that the royal family has ever gotten has been in the last few years after the Sussexes have left. The sheer goldmine of opportunities the RF has to focus attention on a common enemy who is now an outsider, thereby providing a suitable distraction from them, is just too good to pass up.

      People like Tina Brown and other commentators are upset because they have been cut off and remain in the dark with the Sussexes. They are so used to the royal family leaking to them that they are not able to deal with the fact that they don’t have that with the Sussexes. They desperately need sources to be able to do their jobs. They can’t comment on anything when people don’t give them anything to comment on.

  48. susan says:

    Tina Brown to Harry: erase yourself. cancel your book. give up your family, your friends, and your work. come back here and we’ll let you cut a few ribbons now and then, and parade you out on state occasions, but no uniform and no state honors for you. you’re the spare and it’s your job to be subservient. AND we will allow the press to continue to bash your wife.

    Somebody should ask Brown this: “why in the world would anyone, much less Harry, want to do that?” what does he possibly stand to gain?

    she doesn’t understand that Harry figured this all out years ago. HE IS NOT COMING BACK.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Tina is speaking whom? really?
      The establishment? newly minted? Tory right wing media?

      Most importantly,why is she setting the terms of agreement? She is simply the help?

      • Eurydice says:

        Tina is just talking. She doesn’t give a rat’s ass whether or not Harry returns. This is just about keeping herself in the spotlight until Harry’s book is published and then she can do more rounds of talk shows about how she was Diana’s friend and what would Diana have thought about Harry’s life and blah, blah, blah.

  49. Jaded says:

    The Queen managed to travel the world Tina, and she had 4 kids. Say what we will about Petty Betty, she DID have a work ethic, something Khate will never have. Meghan has it in spades and ran circles around the Dolittles. She showed them — not out of spite but by simply being her hard-working, intelligent, wonderful self — that she and Harry could do so much more. And they got shat on and chased out of the country for their efforts. Well done BRF — keep it up while we watch the monarchy go down.

  50. JP says:

    Completely off topic, but did William do something to his cheeks or his jawline recently?

  51. Lizzie says:

    Boy this old cow really tells on herself. ‘Harry is a magnificent man’, ‘Meghan always hated it’.
    Another hag who dreamed Harry would look her way.

  52. A says:

    “Kate does not want to be spending her time traveling the world, she’s a mother of three children, as the Sussexes are, so they have to somehow divvy this stuff up”

    Lmao @ Tina Brown hastily tacking on the fact that the Sussexes are also parents at the end of that sentence. She tried to avoid coming off as a fool for implying that Baldy and Weasel alone are the only ones to ever have kids and to be parents in the history of the universe, but she couldn’t quite manage it.

    But nice job Tina Brown for parroting that racist, dogwhistle of a PR line fed to you by the Midds on how Kate the poor, dumb sausage is just trying SO hard but what she really prioritizes in her life is being a MOTHER, and how dare that nasty Meghan get in the way of that.

    The sheer knots these people continue to twist themselves into to avoid associating Meghan and motherhood is just a classic example of how white supremacy dehumanizes black women by gatekeeping motherhood (and womanhood at large) in order to avoid portraying them as human beings worthy of compassion. It’s a perfect example of how racist white women get away with their racist behaviour, and how much protection they’re offered by presenting them as these incredibly fragile, endangered species who need to be protected. The implication of who they need to be protected from, while left unsaid, is abundantly clear.

    So thank you, Tina Brown + the Middletons, for offering us yet more proof on exactly how sh-tty and racist ya’ll are, but also for making it clear that for all the degrees and accolades people like Tina Brown might have, possessing a real education on the things that actually matter is just incredibly rare these days.

  53. Pumpkin (Was Sofia) says:

    “Kate does not want to be spending her time traveling the world, she’s a mother of three children”

    It’s not like the BRF are constantly travelling. They do tours abroad what? Once every 2 months? Maybe 3 months? And that’s your 5 day or less tours. The “big” 10 day and more tours only happen around twice a year. 3 times max. So it’s not like every month where there’s entire weeks where the kids won’t see Kate. I think the kids will be fine if mummy and daddy aren’t around for 10 days or so twice a year.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      Sometimes they have years in between these tours. Now that Britain is out of the EU and the UK government is in such transition, what exactly do they need these tours for? Is it just royal PR? Everyone already knows who they are. Surely they should coordinate them with the foreign office to further the countries foreign policy goals. I just don’t know why the royal family needs to just randomly visit these countries now. Based on the lat Caribbean tour, it didn’t really serve any purpose and their diplomatic skills are really rusty and cultural tone deaf. Maybe they need to focus more on the UK itself.

    • Lizzie says:

      Tough cookies Waity, this is the job you plotted, stalked and waited for. KKKate is the youngest senior royal, she should be working MORE than any of them. But no, she wants H&M to come crawling back and do her work. I would be mortified to have people in their 70’s and beyond outwork me. She thinks she is too good to work and that’s the plain truth.

  54. AppleCart says:

    But isn’t this what Harry and Meghan asked for in the beginning. To be able to earn their own income and contribute as Royals. Now the white people want half in and out all of a sudden KC amenable to it? OMFG this family is nuts.

  55. Athena says:

    Charles and Camilla, in their 70s, may not be too keen on doing a lot of traveling, especially Camilla, so international travel would be relegated to the P&PoW. Charles and Diana in that role did a lot of international travel and so did Charles and Camilla. W&K simply do not want to do it. They have no interest in other places, other cultures, people who do not look like them. So now they want Harry back to do the heavy lifting. All this emphasizes how short sighted they were, how caught up in their jealousy, hatred and pettiness that they failed to think ahead.

    Also, how exactly is Harry to stop the publication of the book? Some of the money has been pledged to charity, and those charities are in much need of those funds. Harry would have to give back whatever amount has already being paid to him. The publishing company can and would sue for breach of contract and lost revenue. All those reporters beating the cancel the book drum are past looking like a bunch of idiots.

  56. TheOriginalMia says:

    There is no role for Harry. They all made that perfectly clear when they wouldn’t approve the half in/half out proposal. It’s too late (thankfully) now for Harry to come back. And why should he return. The attacks on him and Meghan have never stopped. The “family” wouldn’t stop briefing to the press nor trying to punish and humiliate him during the mourning period. Why in the world would Harry want to subject himself to their brand of family unity? Oh, and let’s not forget, the privilege of being half in now would mean leaving his wife behind in the US. GTFOHWTM!

  57. Well Wisher says:

    It is insulting that the Sussexes should agree to the arrangement denied to them which led to their subsequent departure.
    The same deal that the the Cambridges enjoyed as newly weds in Wales now presented with conditions, after constant braying of a slimmed down monarchy.

    Here is an opportunity to enact the slimmed down version, just do it.

    Why would anyone after the actual behaviour display at the funeral, respond to her tone-deaf assertions and demands positively?
    Demands and ultimatums have a shelf life especially if one inured oneself to the likely conditions, in this case psychological and financial.
    Let them run out their course.

    Another observation if one chooses to pull rank, would any thing a mere messenger has to say matter??

    Just asking for a friend.

  58. Mel says:

    This entire thing is dumb. If you NEED someone who isn’t interested in doing you any favors, to do you a favor, this is NOT the way you do it. There is no reason for him to cancel his book, he owes them no loyalty, there is no reason he should blow up his life to go back there, he owes them no loyalty and is financially independent of them. They don’t know how to act, they will have to find someone else to kick.

  59. Carolind says:

    I don’t know why people are surprised Kate Middleton won’t do tours abroad when she does not do engagements throughout the UK. She barely leaves the S.E. Apparently a spread in one of the British tabloids that Harry missed flight to Deeside with the other royals because he wanted to take Meghan and then refused to go to dinner with father, brother etc. Now this could be rubbish but don’t think it was appropriate for Meghan to be there. When my father-in-law died earlier this year only the sons were at the hospital. When someone is dying only those very close get access and none of the other grandchildren had spouses there and indeed apart from William and Harry no other grandchildren there at that point.

  60. Christine says:

    “let’s face it, Harry is a magnificent man, he looked wonderful I thought.”

    This is the beginning and the end of this conversation, for me.

    Yes, he is a magnificent man, Meghan’s husband, that an entire country of royals and reporters chased away by infantilizing him, and flat out terrorizing his wife, to the point of a miscarriage, and the abuse has clearly ramped up over the last two weeks.

    You terrorists think that Meghan was treated kindly, because a text was sent that Harry and Meghan could roam among you, with zero kindness offered to either of them? You stripped Harry bare of all of the things that he has EARNED, while wearing medals none of you earned.

    And then you scoffed when they cried. The fucking end.

  61. L4Frimaire says:

    I’m struck by how she acknowledged magnificent Harry looked this week. He looked handsome and dignified both in and out of uniform. Meghan was amazing as well and was so elegant but of course that doesn’t suit Brown’s narrative. I really don’t know what these rancid people are hoping to do by publicly trying to embarrass the Sussexes, verbally abuse and shunMeghan, then plead that they need Harry’s charisma to help William. This is witnessing abuse and it’s feels like they’re trying to force the public to participate in it. It’s disgusting.

  62. AnneL says:

    “Magnificent!!” Is she openly thirsting for Harry? She has at least one kid who is not much younger than he is. How awkward, and hilarious. But she’s not wrong.

    As far as the book goes, this woman is in publishing, for God’s sake. She knows how this works. She had a contract to write her most recent book and the ones before it. Harry couldn’t cancel the freaking book even if he wanted to. It’s out of his hands.

    And I can’t imagine any amount of $$$ from the Windsors would make the publisher withhold it. First off, the interest in it will spike after the Queen’s death and all the surrounding drama with Harry and his family. And they would lose all credibility as publishers if they let some Royal wankers bribe them to shelve a big memoir. No famous person would give them rights to a memoir again if they did that.

    The book is going to come out. Maybe they’ll delay it, though I doubt it. But it’s coming and no one, including Harry, can stop it.

  63. Robin Samuels says:

    Charles and William created this fiasco. They abused Harry years before Meghan’s arrival. If anyone watched “The Me You Can’t See,” Harry’s already told the worse part of his life. He was doing all the work while William and Kate enjoyed the amenities.
    I don’t think Harry ever imagined meeting someone like Meghan. Having someone to sleep with is not the same as having someone to love. Yes, Harry does look magnificent since he became a married man and the father of two small children who I’m sure adores him. Meghan loves to cook and maintain a cozy living space. He no longer has holes in the sole of his shoes and wears designer clothes. Henry Charles Albert David is a global citizen. Returning to that fishbowl is non-negotiable. Many men hold him in high esteem for making the sacrifice to protect his wife and son. He can’t afford to lose that respect and admiration for the sake of an unloving father and jealous brother.
    The book will be released as scheduled. Harry and Meghan, most likely in need of a few therapy sessions, will return to their service work soon. As for Charles, Camilla, William, and Kate, Karma has just begun. And Tina Brown can kick rocks!

  64. Bisynaptic says:

    Kate has small children… and Harry doesn’t?

  65. Tina Brown the carabao is crazy and thick.