One of my least favorite things about the American media is that they tend to believe that they need to “bring in” British commentators to whitesplain the Windsors. It feels less icky when, say, the Today Show does a link-up interview with Roya Nikkhah. But when the New York Times is quoting someone like Tom Bower in their coverage? It’s insane. Bower is a disgrace. Bower is on the record, telling the world that he’s “after Meghan” and he literally called her a “brazen hussy” for the crime of “smiling” and “waving.” He’s a decrepit misogynist and racist. So why did the Times quote him? From this NY Times piece about the “royal feud” between Prince Harry and Prince William:
“The question is, who is challenging who?” said Tom Bower, author of several books on the royal family. “Whether it’s going on Oprah Winfrey, or the interviews with Variety or The Cut, or a speech accepting the Kennedy Award coinciding with the Earthshot Awards in Boston, the initiative for rivalry is always coming from the Sussexes. They’re the ones on the attack.”
“Harry said that he would help William when he became king, and that he was willing to help him through his mental and emotional problems,” Mr. Bower added, alluding to the transparency with which Prince Harry has discussed mental health struggles, including his own. In 2016, Harry, William and Kate started Heads Together, an initiative that encouraged people to have conversations about psychological well-being.
“He had his own life and was very happy for William and Kate,” Mr. Bower said. “As a trio they got on terribly well. Meghan has been the agent of destruction in the brothers’ relationship.”
“Battlelines are drawn,” Mr. Bower said. “And it will only get worse unless William steps in and gives an interview to rebut the allegations made by Meghan and Harry.”
I hope William does give an interview. It’s not unheard of, even though the pearl-clutchers will lie and say it’s never happened before. William’s parents would regularly do sit-down interviews with friendly journalists. Prince Philip regularly spoke to journalists on the record, including sitting for press conferences. It does feel like the Sussexes have been almost hoping that someone in the family would go on the record and say sh-t so that the Sussexes can then drop receipts. Anyway, Bower is a f–king tool – the sheer pathetic foolery of “Harry said that he would help William when he became king” is cracking me up – oh noes, Harry PROMISED! Why is William so mentally and emotionally deficient that he needed his brother to be a wingman forever? Not just a wingman – Harry wasn’t supposed to get married or have a family or leave William, ever.
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Do it Willyboy.
Yasss…I hope Will thePegger does so he and the RF can be royally sued… because believe me HM have THE RECEIPTS!
I would love to see it….
But if it remains a crumb of sense in Kensington palace pr, he shouldn’t.
Charles and Andrew interviews had them recognize some of their faults and had catastrophic results.
And William isn’t even able to admit a single thing, can’t depend on his lost good looks, dreamt charisma, hasn’t any work to show in 10 years, and there are all these receipts all around sm about his briefing and harassment of his bro and sil…
That would be suicide
Yes please, that’s going to go about as good as Uncle Pedo’s sweaty interview.
Came here to say this! Maybe Wills can get interview coaching by the genius that “helped” Andrew.
I would pay actual money to watch a Prince Pursed Lips interview,
If they thought Andrew’s interview was a trainwreck wait till Willie tries. They will soft ball the questions of course but then H&M have the right to respond.
Like I said before the RR’s are LOVING this fallout.
Everyone knows they’re vultures without morals, but the Royals got into bed with them and now have to do THEIR bidding – LMAO
The Rota Rats are like divorce lawyers stirring the pot to drag things out for bigger fees – they always win – even when they’re outed.
Agree. The tabloids and Royal reporters are beside themselves with glee pitting the Royal family against the Sussexes. All they see is how much💰💵 they can make off their stories. As long as they can keep the focus off their role in the Royal Industrial Complex all is well. I think Harry is more interested in exposing and tearing down the invisible contract between the courtiers and media. That’s what has them shook and fighting back to save themselves.
I hope Harry doesn’t name names. Why do the Rota rats work for them, if they want to drop their secrets on William and Kate then let them do it on their own.
Bless.
The NYT’s as well as the WaPost have deteriorated year after year. They have not problem talking to racist misogynists to court more racist misogynists. I liken this to after every election cycle them going to MAGA country and talking to them about why they voted the way they did. It’s click bait and disgusting.
As for Bower, that man is absolutely unhinged. He really expected Harry to stay single or marry some mute, say nothing, do nothing so that he could wife Willy’s ass. What a pathetic unstable man.
The NYT is also very hard on Biden. Everything is bad for him, even the stunning midterms wins. The feeling I get is the people on the top are wealthy, white, went to the same closed circle of private schools, and think their mission in life is to educate the peasants–those who couldn’t afford a junior year abroad, speak fluent French or an obscure language nobody cares about. Of course they love the Royal Family. They feel like royalty themselves.
All bought by right wing ( by their very nature as Billionaires) Billionaires.
The NYT is so problematic now, I ended up canceling my subscription last year. It’s been just one bad take after another on many different issues.
To quote Kaiser –
DON’T THREATEN ME WITH A GOOD TIME!!!!
Do it William. I DARE YOU. lol.
Double-dog dare ya, Sir Pegs a lot!
But…it would be stage-managed and comfortable with a friendly reporter for sure. A smarter, more savvy person would use it to advantage, but I have a feeling that William would pull a Prince Andrew and think he gave a great interview for it to bite him in the ass.
It would have to be done by a real journalist, not some royal stooge. That any question could be asked of him along with follow up questions are the only preconditions. Then it would be a very valuable exercise. Watching him lie and sweat in real time would be very entertaining.
@Brassy Rebel: Which means, of course, that an interview with any kind of real journalist would never happen.
The BRF would have so many conditions: their pick of the sycophant, I mean interviewer. Full list of questions before hand. Total edit control during the interview. “I don’t like how I answered the question, I need to do it again.” Total edit control AFTER the interview: “Oh, that profile shot wasn’t good, you have to delete that. I don’t care that it’s being aired in 30 minutes, you need to redo it!”
Oh, and total ownership of the interview footage so that no other news agency could ever use it without permission.
That would be a speech, not an interview. Yeah, they’d have no problem agreeing to that.
Uh Tom Bower, the BRF needs to modernize and confront its colonial history. I believe that H&M is therefore very helpful to William and highly suggest he watch it.
DOOO IIIIIIIIT! A Willy interview would be a disaster of epic proportions. It would leave Andrew’s sweaty, Pizza Express interview in the dust.
It would be an explosive pile of poo disaster. He would be putting himself in the position of having to either lie on the spot about Harry and Meghan–which would come back and bite him, or he would have to be truthful about how awful he thinks they are, which is going to make him look and sound pathetic and bratty. So yeah, go ahead Tom–keep egging the Egg on to go do an interview!
They needed Harry’s shine to reflect on them and make them seem fun and compassionate. Will should do an interview…to beg for Harry’s forgiveness. And who is to say that Harry won’t help William once he’s king? He’s not king yet. We don’t know what will or will not happen in the future.
Why does will need help to be king. Charles is not saying that he needs his siblings to help him be king.
Oh no, it’s done Harry’s not going back to that life.
The series isn’t over. I’m expecting the next 3 eps will be explosive. I think there will be statements from the Wails, for sure.
I hope so. I’m interested in seeing what excuse William would give for letting Jason Knife break his NDA to go after Meghan in a case that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the royals.
Please we need another ‘very much not a racist family, just surround selves with racists and didn’t realize, also colonialists but very much not wearing stolen jewels.’
Bower saying as a trio they got along well. So pathetic. So should harry have stayed single to get along great with his sister and brother In law. Such deluded thinking. Harry as third wheel in a time warp. Bower is in denial and lives in la la land.kate and will treated Harry’s beloved wife horribly.
That seems to be what W&K and the BM wanted. PH as the third wheel forever so that PW would have his scapegoat and someone to steal ideas from and take credit when he wanted.
Brother and sister in law.
Kate really loved having Harry single and hanging around, she was often seen whispering and giggling to him. She was probably more pissed than Wills when he had the nerve to get engaged and married. She was poised to dislike whoever he chose but Meaghan was a gift, so much to hate lol
Maybe will should have been the one to stay single Mr bower
Yup.
Bower is unhinged. Why didn’t the reporter ask why Harry was expected to help William when he became King? Was Harry never expected to get married and have a family of his own? Btw, William should have done an interview for Earthshot when he was in Boston.
Exactly! Harry did for the Invictus Games.
The tabs are yanking on Peggy’s chain – he’ll have to give them something big. He has nothing to give on the Sussex’s and not sure he has anything new on his father/Andrew. I have a feeling that he will start briefing against kHate and her family – about how they went rouge and worked with Jason to drive the Sussex’s out.
In the last few days we really are seeing the “tail wagging the dog.” 4Takes ordering Charles to put the Sussexes in their place and now Bower insisting William does an interview. I bet they’re wishing they’d listened to Harry now and stayed well away from these parasites.
Oh and yes I would love to see William do an interview. If only to see him squirm when the interviewer asks him about who had “concerns” about Archie’s skin colour. 😆
I’m sure “Upchuck” would love to see William do an interview so as to take the heat off himself. William’s too stupid and arrogant to be able to control his incandescence long enough to give a tempered and diplomatic take on the situation, plus he’s in so deep with the BM that unless he comes up with some dirt on the Sussexes they will turn on him. He’s in a no-win situation.
As if Will would ever consent to being interviewed by a reporter who would ask tough questions.
Not gonna happen.
It would be more like: “Prince William, are you the bestest prince or the greatest prince?”
@ QuiteContrary – And his answer to that question would be just “Yes”. Like the time we went out for dinner and the waitress asked my son if he wanted soup or salad with his entree. He thought she said “super salad” and answered yes, lol.
Willy is a pathetic, sneaky coward who insists rats like Jason do his dirty work for him so he won’t have the guts to do any sort of interview. He’s the heir and so he’ll always be protected by the Firm but his treatment of his own brother and SIL have left this Brit disgusted with him. It is enough for me to know just how badly he has behaved and no amount of palace protection can erase that. What a sad man he truly is.
The replies from y’all in Britain on this site are great. I was actually beginning to believe that everyone over there hated them before finding celebitchy. And I agree with absolutely everything you said…he’s a deceitful coward and a whiner!
Oh, please do! I would be delighted to watch an Andrew-esque debacle unfold, with William’s nonexistent charm struggle to produce believable lies.
So PH was happy for W&K and made nice comments on their marriage and on the births of their children. W&K couldn’t manage to say anything nice ever on H&M’s marriage or on the births of their children. But PH should stick around and be their third wheel forever because they are such wonderful people? And the support was only supposed to work one way?
William has given several interviews before with “friendly” journalists–and the two that popped into my head were totally disastrous for different reasons. There was the one after Prince George was born wherein he cried about African wildlife or something like that. And then there was the one he gave after catching all that “work shy” heat in the pre-Meghan days, and he came across as awkward and strange and furious. He’s just as bad as Andrew in front of the cameras.
Please? Pretty please?!
The last time Will sat for an interview was for the BBC and you could see the disgust on his face.
If William is truly this stupid, all I can say is “Prince Andrew gave an interview, remember how that worked for him?”
Peggy is to much of a coward to sit with a real investigative journalist he would choose someone like Pierce Morgan or Dan Wooton if he was ever interviewed. The ass kissers who would follow a pre approved script.
Bower is such a creaky dinosaur. Calling a woman a brazen hussy and an adventuress in 2022. Okaaay. NYT is becoming a dinosaur too. Embarrassing to quote a man who even uses the word adventuress.
So much for never complain, never explain, eh?
This sounds more like a demand from the rota that William provide them with something to counter program the Sussexes.
He can certainly try and do a hastily scheduled sit down ahead of the Netflix drop, but even with a “friendly” interviewer, he will have to come up with an answer on the behaviour of his godmother to Ngozi Fulani. And whether or not KP has ever leaked information about Meghan. And, depending on what is in those last three episodes, the role that Jason Knauf ( who still has a role with earthshot) played in William’s household, and why he tried to testify against Meghan in her case against the Fail.
Please let the PR genius speak on record. Please! His arrogance, entitlement and rage would be on display in 4K for all the world to see. Please do it, William. You know he’s dying to.
I was hoping the H&M documentary would help mainstream the understanding in the United States of how the right wing media in the UK uses the royal family to its own rightwing agenda ends. However, so much of the coverage from major US outlets has been so … lazy. From a report on NPR on how no one in England likes Harry (wonder how they got that opinion?) to a heavy reliance on folks like this dude with at all putting their perspective in context. It’s a real missed opportunity to further the discussions of the issues raised in the doc.
I’ve noticed the same thing. It’s very disappointing.
This piece from NPR’s TV critic was very fair. Of course, the critic is a Black journalist.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/08/1141547099/heres-what-we-learned-from-harry-and-meghans-netflix-documentary
Bower’s a disgrace, but this floored me: “Harry said that he would help William when he became king, and that he was willing to help him through his mental and emotional problems.”
So now they’re just saying out loud that William has unmanaged issues that would render him unable to serve as sovereign without depending on Harry. And to a major American media outlet, no less!
Right?! How is William needing help managing his “mental and emotional problems” getting completely overlooked?! The RRs are dying to soil what they know. If an RR was smart, they’d bait Pegasus into an interview and then get him to spill hints on what they really want to talk about.
Interesting catch, bc I interpreted that as being about Harry – like it was a deal between them. Harry helps William when he’s king, and in return William helps Harry with his mental issues. That fits with the whole “William is concerned bc Harry is so fragile” thing.
But your interpretation might be right and thats really interesting if so.
I read that the same way, that William has mental & emotional health problems. And this from a friendly source!
If Harry was the one with mental and emotional issues then how was he supposed to be “helping” William? Why would the king be depending on his mentally and emotionally unstable younger brother? I think someone just said something that they weren’t supposed to say out loud. And it tracks with what Harry said during the South Africa interview about “loving William dearly and always having his back”. Like he was reassuring William he wouldn’t be abandoned. Almost like Harry was William’s father. Its a weird dynamic for sure.
That was absolutely worded so that it would be open to interpretation, but the way I understood it was that HARRY was to help WILLIAM as he had unaddressed emotional and mental issues. And also wondered why no one was mentioning that quote! Very curious indeed.
That stick out like a bright neon light to me, too. Before I commented I wanted to read all the other comments first. I’m shocked it took this long for someone to mention it. We all suspected William has real issues, but he comes right out and says it out loud.
The way it’s worded, there’s no way it’s open to interpretation if the grammar is correct. “Harry said that he would help William” in the first clause. And then in the second, “and that he was willing to help him” etc. The subject is “Harry” in both cases. It would be a grammatical mess any other way.
Bower is saying William has mental and emotional problems that he depended on Harry to help him with. This is so much deeper than some affairs.
I think William has huge issues with anger, for a start (which we all know about). About six months ago there was a lot of chat amongst royal experts about his well known temper. It seemed a really strange thing to be talking about. And that he and Kate were known to have heated “debates”. It came after the disaster tour. I wonder whether they were getting ahead of issues related to staff talking about his breakdown nature and hostility, esp around that particular time when he must have been flying at anyone to put the blame on. I’m pleased Harry got away. And Kate has some pity from me if this is the case. Being around a violent temper is horrible.
So, according to Bower, Harry should’ve remained single and Pegs-a-Lot’s creature forever, “helping” him rule?
There’s something wrong with William. Very wrong. It was Harry’s lifetime job to cover up Will’s incapacity. Issues this debilitating cannot stay hidden forever., not without Harry’s assistance.
Agreed–I’ve said for a long time Will has deep-seated mental problems that Harry was supposed to help cover over. That is the _real_ reason the BM and TF have gone so hard and so hatefully after him–it was his duty to insure the Crown’s stability, no matter what it cost him.
A lot of journalists called out the times using this guy and in general, using royal reporters when they are an inherent part of the issue here. I think what Bowers is mad about is what could have been and what was presented. There was this so-called happy trio and they thought everyone’s role was set until a new very dynamic person came in. How could they expect things to stay the same? However he refuses to acknowledge the hostility toward the couple that shifted things. Also my impression was that the royals knew they were getting a huge boost from Meghan but the resentments were leaking out in the press coverage. Also how the Sussexes were doing things was making everyone else look irrelevant and old fashioned. I always thought they really wanted Harry to stay single well into his 40s and be this permanent 3rd wheel.
How can Tom Bower expect Pegs to give an interview when Harry isn’t around to help! There’s going to be a huge crisis when Chuck kicks the bucket & Harry’s not there to tell Pegs what to do, lol.
The British media desperately wants to turn this into wales 2.0 with dueling television interviews. Where they can prints 30 plus think pieces of what went wrong Blame Meghan for everything without taken any sort of ownership of the Roles the media the royal family play in all this . William would never sit down for interview this is what Harry has been saying all along this is the deal the royal made with the media they feel like the own the family that family has to do what they want when they want .
I would love to see the simmering rage monster give a whole interview about this. Watching someone so angry and incompetent try and share “their side” would be a delight.
If the rest of the NYT article is like this and full of Tom Bowel Movement quotes then it truly has become a “rag”. The two idiots and Harry got along ” great” before Meghan came along? Then why was Harry talking about wanting to leave Royal life if he was so happy? Also, why is no one in the US media ever questioning whether the Wails had a hand in driving Harry and Meghan away? The Wails obviously never liked Meghan and yet no one in the media ever points the finger at them or does more than vaguely hint that they might have played a role in this.
Like many journalists on Twitter are saying, all roads lead to Kensington Palace. I think if not for William and Kate their constant briefing, things may have settled down, but maybe not. The way they can just casually and gleefully try to destroy a person and then just carry on is truly psychotic.
It’s on the cards, in HMO, that Harry and Meghan may point a finger specifically at KP courtiers in volume 2 to make an effort to spare W&K, the family. The BM will likely carry on using the RF as human shields. H&M made the distinction between the Firm and the Royal Family, but BM just ignored it and the rest of the world press seems to just go along with the BM.
I wonder if H&M are fighting hard because they can see that their children might eventually become targets (scapegoats for K&W children) in the future, given H&M are still BM’s targets in spite of being thousands of kilometres away from that island.
Another thing, I’m sure we’ve all seen haters’ psychological exploit of conformity pressure, “I used to like them…” Piers Morgan and co behind the anchor desks are really pushing the line “all of my friends who used to like them, are all fed up with them now.” We’ve seen it done by plenty of haters on Twitter (I’m no longer on any social media platform). but the anchor-desk position may have made some impact. I don’t know if it’s just me, but I’m seeing recently more American anchors seem to be repeating tabloid lines, like the privacy and mercenary charges. The racist TV presenters here in Australia also use the line “Some of my friends used to like them, but not any more.” And it may be coincidental or may be not, Australian press coverage of H&M have become overwhelmingly unfavourable to H&M. It’s so worrying. Geraldo Rivera made a valiant effort, saying that he thinks the constant incessant vitriol directed at H&M is generating more sympathy for them. I don’t know if it’s effective at combating the conformity pressure psychological exploit… I hope it is.
I get why the media which is invested in the idea of monarchy as a certain way would not embrace what Harry and Meghan did with Netflix.
The english media of the UK, have long write fictional scripts for members of the royal family particularly Harry.
Time and time again, they will rewrite the same shite with a slightly different image from the same incident.
It is manufacturing consent from its target audience, one that it despise and disrespect.
Repetitiveness should ensure that the truth replaces the fact(s).
When the Wales marriage disintegrated, they had to go to varying media outlets to tell their ‘side’.
The only ones whom benefitted from this arrangement were said media outlets and authors of badly written books, being aware of this, the Sussexes reclaimed their story, provided documentation.
They faced the camera and spoke.
How would one fact check the actual experts on their personal lives?
One can go off the ridiculous like writing a disparaging article of the dead Wilson Pickett because the Sussexes used his song as their first dance at their wedding.
The other get the brother to go off on Harry as he did with the BBC.
For some reason, Bower is used in this scenario, although his book about Meghan failed to have Harry settle the lawsuit against the sun tabloid, part of Murdoch.
William had gone after the BBC twice, the first was because of his mother’s interview painted them in a negative light, notwithstanding Bashir.
It provided ample evidence for Harry’s claim of their brutal behaviour towards his wife and most importantly showed that his mother did not benefit from the symbiotic relationship, she became the roadkill (no pun intended).
The next time William went on the offensive on the BBC was the documentary about the role of the media in their lives(W&H).
It was more about that particular media, not about him.
With this in mind, Bower wants him to fact check his brother for the ‘gang’ and give an interview where one of the ‘media’ outlets will make oodles of money while destroying his brother.
He can now brief publicly and follow the prewritten script so that the false narritive will retain its position.
But can he be the Number one show, bots are not counted in this scenario and will their stock be the best on S&P???
I doubt it…
So the old model is out. If there is a disagreement, go to a streaming service with proper documentation and tell your story, your way for a fee.
It is your story…
The “stories we tell” are important, so happy that the Sussexes changed the narrative, and most importantly, the ‘value’ of their story.
I admire their bravery.
Bower is crying because the BM is being put on trial on a global scale. Their hit pieces and books are tanking in value thanks to Netflix. ,.,.
aquarius64, yes, the bm is being put on trial on a global scale. What I believe is that this has been happening for a while now. The continued vitriol against H&M (especially M) has not gone unnoticed globally. This will solidify what the world media has been seeing for years now.
I wonder how they will try to reclaim credibility? Or what passes for credibility for the bm.
Yes, Fails, please do an interview and bring along Wails since she was also such a part of this coordinated media circus against Meghan and then Harry!
I agree with Kaiser that US media outlets need to stop hiring Brits as royal commentators. We need to examine and discuss the BRF through an American lens. They have hundreds doing it their way. We need to do it ours starting with We do not and will not curtsey to anyone who feels entitled to that gesture by virtue of their birth. A revolution was fought for that idea.
We like to look at the pageantry and events but except for Harry and Eugenie we don’t like them.
Can we please start a Twitter war directed at American media to fire Tina Brown, Katie Nichols, Tom Sykes and any others who write or are employed by US media to make us peasants understand the BRF reign through God’s will and are not the entitled dumbasses we clearly see they are.
Tom Bower: William must give an interview!
Guess who is volunteering his services as the interviewer? No Tom, you are not going to dine out for years on “when I met Prince William”.
Please William, please take a seat and be interviewed.
Here’s an interview William gave in his final year at St Andrews, heavily edited to remove filler “like”s, “sort of”s, “you know”s etc:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4026131.stm
Not a word about any interest in the state of the planet, still less about launching a prize to fix it. Was he even aware of the St Andrew Prize for the Environment back then?
Maybe Tyler Perry can conduct the interview. 😉
Go ahead and do it. I mean if you feel that strongly. The never complain, never explain mantra is mostly BS. Only the late Queen has never been on the record. If anything m Harry is taking a page out of his great great grandfather’s playbook. In 1893, as he prepared to marry Princess May of Teck, George V (then Duke of York) was rumored to already be married, with children. It was blatantly false and he mostly laughed it off. It did cause a brief newspaper fuss though. And it popped up from time to time but exploded in 1910 when he became king. A socialist Edward Mylius wrote a whole story on it and called out the queen and labeled the children illegitimate. That was all it took. The king could take attacks on himself but don’t come for his wife and kids. Sound familiar? He sued for defamation and libel. He even threatened to take the stand himself much to the horror of courtiers. So much for never explain. He won, Mylius was convicted and the story died off.